Why is she not being arrested and again baloi said she is not coming at all. But she is linked ...swapped the sim etc. That's the strength of defense. Kelly will cry and reveal everything
Sibanda saying he didn’t anticipate this happening is pure nonsense wasting Friday and Monday without a back up witness. Even I knew when the court adjourned on Tuesday there is no way Pinky would return 100% fit by today. The girl is almost visibly struggling. Is it even allowed to have a sick person who is physically and mentally poorly to even testify!?
Just remember the court is been waiting for the defense expert!!! They are wasting time because the state cant call others witnesses incase the defense expert comes.
One thing I have noticed since this case begin is that defence and the state don’t wanna work on Fridays and they always find a way for off on Friday or early day off
So the judge can only help the State and not the defence 🧐🤔 mmmmh interesting. The judge is revealing something. I thought he was supposed to be impartial.
Something is fishy here.. this lady should have been excused until she gets well and by a letter from a doctor confirming that shes stable. We are taken for ride. The law is futting with us.. he had 100 witnesses but a week goes without bringing extra 1
For sure how is it helpful...the defense she urgue that pipo knowing each other or calling each other is not a crime. And they should also put to court that on these days how many pipo called these numbers...they should also be part of this therefore. If calling each other is a crime
the reason why state is coming up with all that irrelevant evidence is to equilibrium the charge of "common purpose" against the accused. Only if it would be justified before court that they know each other, hence their evidence before court is that they don't know each other. Now here is the tricky part of that evidence were the state wants to run with the defence if they are in slumber land. We shall all remember that some of the accused know each other, and the other ones get to know each other during the trial, hence one of them his a traditional music group leader, in that sense some of them might know him without him knowing them. The defence just needs to prove a sense of iota in their clients evidence.
@@LilyCalla-mz2xb she was very fine on day one which is why I’m surprised why she’s this sick all of a sudden, also mentioning that she’s been having the flu for 3 weeks and it’s not subsiding 🤔not that I’m being insensitive, but the lies going on in this case leave much to be desired 🤷♀️
@@thokomsweli6174 Then we are not watching the same case. She was not fine on the first day, she even said on her first day she has been sick for 3 weeks. If someone has been sick and never really recovered and is basically forced to speak for hours what you are doing instead of recovering, the body relapse. So far, she has not shown anything to be concerned about to let me believe she is hiding something. Approach with rational not emotion.
So, the judge likes to be pampered and nursed to attention? I thought they were in court to practice law, not to brush each other's egos. And the judge 's gibberish monologuing had nothing to do with the aspects of the case, just stealing the taxpayers money and wasting time. But no hard feelings. Just another way of seeing things. 🔥🔥🤣🤣@@godfreymonama4833
I hope advocate must not cross examination for her they must just submit the information keep next step 375 because this witness don't need to be in this court only 375 🙏
She must be cross examine to clarify some of aspects of her data a. which number is captured in the radius of spaza house, b. which number is captured in the radius of petrol garage, c. which number is captured in the radius of area were police vehicle was broken, d. which number makes a call to mkhulu number on which date and time, e. which number is captured in the radius of abandoned ATM area in Soweto, f. which number is captured in the radius of the then dumping site in the Alberton area. etc Also 375 is important
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Did anyone heard the Judge said "because his client (referring to Adv Mngomezulu and Accused One) will come and make an APPEAL say THIS Judge continue with a case in an absence of my counsel. My question is NB: was such comment necessary at this juncture, what we ppl would say if he convicted and sentenced accused one to an effective prison term. Ain't that be a premeditated conviction and sentencing 😮 why can't he also say because we are binded by law not to proceed without him being present as the appointed legal representative of accused person standing in a trail. This case has been concluded long time in the spaza house for those five accused to be sacrificial lambs to cleanse those who killed senzo 😢
The witness is not okay and has not been ok since 2 days ago. The state is wasting time they should’ve arranged other witnesses since we saw this lady was not well.
@@user-jx7dz4ft1g they can do that hence the judge was asking if Mnisi's ballistic expert was available, and also asked the state where the other witnesses were
It seems all the people with comments here if you were all judges every before you judges were supposed to be found guilty,many don't know what really happened for him to escape but quick to judge shame
The BLA know how to deflate the ego of a bigoted overrated dinosaur. Do you honestly think that Ramosepedi will want his day ruined by such a person? No ways! 🤣🤣
Wen was the 205 of Kelly ,Senzo and Chicco done coz were told after 3 years date cant be retrieved. The state is afraid the accused will walk if 2014 section 205s are brought in😂😂😂
Why does the case have to wait while they are other witnesses... Kanti I state siphelelwe ama substitute... Kumele baze ne witness ibe on the field one or two ibe Ku bench incase one gets injured the trial moves... This is deliberately ay
@@njabulojb2994 this time waisting doesn't help, it's better to waste time knowing you are leading... Manje it's still a draw but you wasting time ay this is not on
It's insane really,, where are the substitute bcaz we all know that there is a million of witnesses awaiting to be called by the states,, so why must we wait for someone who is really sick and we don't even know how long is it gonna take her to fully recover 💔
This flu is serious and dangerous. Everyone is sick everywhere 🤧
Where are the other witnesses?The state is dragging the case and we want to see Kelly in court
If the state is relying on what they have presented their is no case at all .kkkkk
Siyabonga Kwi states and Ratha the way you handled this case
You are very intelligent ❤❤❤❤
Thank you vodacom assistance Kelly kumalo it's time to come and answer for your trouble some stories darling 🔓🔐🗝🔗⛓
Why is she not being arrested and again baloi said she is not coming at all. But she is linked ...swapped the sim etc. That's the strength of defense. Kelly will cry and reveal everything
Get well soon cc
This evidence supposed to be for case 375
The accused are bored of the Judge 's speech
Sad after all this years still nothing
Don't get sick baba Mngomezulu,we rely on you and your partners in Senzos case
Sibanda saying he didn’t anticipate this happening is pure nonsense wasting Friday and Monday without a back up witness. Even I knew when the court adjourned on Tuesday there is no way Pinky would return 100% fit by today. The girl is almost visibly struggling. Is it even allowed to have a sick person who is physically and mentally poorly to even testify!?
Just remember the court is been waiting for the defense expert!!! They are wasting time because the state cant call others witnesses incase the defense expert comes.
@@user-jx7dz4ft1g not true. The state has been calling witnesses regardless of whether they have been waiting for the expert
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One thing I have noticed since this case begin is that defence and the state don’t wanna work on Fridays and they always find a way for off on Friday or early day off
So the judge can only help the State and not the defence 🧐🤔 mmmmh interesting. The judge is revealing something. I thought he was supposed to be impartial.
He's been doing that ever since he set in that chair don't worry it envelopes clearly
Hello
May the judge please treat all counsel equal please!!!
The state was the one asking for adjournment but he wanted to shift the blame to Mnisi and company about the cross examination..kkkkkk
I am happy to hear the light moment in court..
Something is fishy here.. this lady should have been excused until she gets well and by a letter from a doctor confirming that shes stable. We are taken for ride. The law is futting with us.. he had 100 witnesses but a week goes without bringing extra 1
But im confused now 😮😮😮how is this information presented in court affect the accused. The state clearly arrested wrong people 😢😢😢
For sure how is it helpful...the defense she urgue that pipo knowing each other or calling each other is not a crime. And they should also put to court that on these days how many pipo called these numbers...they should also be part of this therefore. If calling each other is a crime
the reason why state is coming up with all that irrelevant evidence is to equilibrium the charge of "common purpose" against the accused. Only if it would be justified before court that they know each other, hence their evidence before court is that they don't know each other. Now here is the tricky part of that evidence were the state wants to run with the defence if they are in slumber land. We shall all remember that some of the accused know each other, and the other ones get to know each other during the trial, hence one of them his a traditional music group leader, in that sense some of them might know him without him knowing them. The defence just needs to prove a sense of iota in their clients evidence.
The guys will be rich after the case. There's no evidence for these guys
Are they in court
We are not giving up on this case coz we want to see this bought Judge Ratha
You are going to wait for ever.!!!
Yes Mnisi you right😂😂😂
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What a performance Pinky👏👏👏👏
She is genuinely sick. She has been for some time now. You don’t have to be a doctor to hear how this girl is struggling.
@@LilyCalla-mz2xb she was very fine on day one which is why I’m surprised why she’s this sick all of a sudden, also mentioning that she’s been having the flu for 3 weeks and it’s not subsiding 🤔not that I’m being insensitive, but the lies going on in this case leave much to be desired 🤷♀️
Chomi. Please update
@@thokomsweli6174 Then we are not watching the same case. She was not fine on the first day, she even said on her first day she has been sick for 3 weeks. If someone has been sick and never really recovered and is basically forced to speak for hours what you are doing instead of recovering, the body relapse. So far, she has not shown anything to be concerned about to let me believe she is hiding something. Approach with rational not emotion.
U are so insensitive,this a lady is gravely ill,I wish u can understand how dangerous this flu is
We also need 205 of zungu.since he claimed that he was with the accused the day senzo killed.
Eish🙆
Nice to see the human side of.the court
Exactly my point, it is because the JP has requested if yhe defense is being assisted with their witnesses 🎉🎉
History
Huh
Ratha likes Mnisi every time he is asking something then he will ask him
You r correct, Mnisi was a prosecutor at some point & has had encounters with Ratha. I think it is from there. Just my assumption
I thought so
Mnisi is knowledgeable and he is giving the judge an ear when he's speaking.
So, the judge likes to be pampered and nursed to attention? I thought they were in court to practice law, not to brush each other's egos. And the judge 's gibberish monologuing had nothing to do with the aspects of the case, just stealing the taxpayers money and wasting time. But no hard feelings. Just another way of seeing things. 🔥🔥🤣🤣@@godfreymonama4833
What happened
Witness is sick
Even ramaphosa was in anc during codesa wats da point if u get my point
This case must close because there is no forwarding in dis Country
Yes Mnisi you right😂😂😂 veterans differ indeed
Remember what happened to 2pac Shakur...same ...kodwa ker inyani yakuvela noba nini ....💔😭🙏
This veteran is no longer relevant,he formed this body to faIl it and in the absence of the best the worst becomes the best
It's possible that she might not be OK still on Tuesday 😮and the state is about to close its case...
I hope advocate must not cross examination for her they must just submit the information keep next step 375 because this witness don't need to be in this court only 375 🙏
She must be cross examine to clarify some of aspects of her data
a. which number is captured in the radius of spaza house,
b. which number is captured in the radius of petrol garage,
c. which number is captured in the radius of area were police vehicle was broken,
d. which number makes a call to mkhulu number on which date and time,
e. which number is captured in the radius of abandoned ATM area in Soweto,
f. which number is captured in the radius of the then dumping site in the Alberton area. etc
Also 375 is important
Ke boloi cause as far as concern things are heading up
Now that pinky cleared all the accused, baloyi and the gang could erase her
kwenzekeni
You on pension maybe that's why
Apartheid judge going thru memory line, mshololo is not even interested 😂😂😂😂
1977😅😅😅
1929
That's what I noticed Mshololo is not interested to what Judge is talking about 😅😂
1910🤣🤣
Old van Rathaburg is writing his memoirs 🤣🤣🤣
History is powerful and remembering is a sine qua non for any future progress of a people. All cases in court are concluded with current evidence juxtaposed against past concluded judgements. Even the current results of IEC are based on what they used to do. My proficiency in any language is based on my previous use of the language.
There you go again,we not interested about you n Mojapelo🙄
Does the state have a case though?
zilch at all, they are shame to release those young men; at the same breath trying to avoid law suites
Indeed ...not a solid one for sure
If the five accused are guilty, then definitely mastermind is a missing link in the cells
No they dont
Not at state doesn't have a case here
Another long weekend🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
If you're a real human being how can you lough at someone when she's sick, you won't even smell heaven nina, anisengobantu nizizilwanyane stru
Do you have to tell us about apartheid era🤦!!!
“You are running the risk of me dying.” So does he mean it’s the state that’s running the risk? Probably because he’s always coming to their rescue?
Did the judge say prospone or postpone
Does it even matter on what he said,arrggg man, English teacher
Did anyone heard the Judge said "because his client (referring to Adv Mngomezulu and Accused One) will come and make an APPEAL say THIS Judge continue with a case in an absence of my counsel. My question is
NB: was such comment necessary at this juncture, what we ppl would say if he convicted and sentenced accused one to an effective prison term. Ain't that be a premeditated conviction and sentencing 😮 why can't he also say because we are binded by law not to proceed without him being present as the appointed legal representative of accused person standing in a trail. This case has been concluded long time in the spaza house for those five accused to be sacrificial lambs to cleanse those who killed senzo 😢
The reason they did not call you it's your attitude
100 percent😂😂
Mshololo not interested in fairytale... sham!!!!
Lol did you notice how Baloyi paid attention bengathi Baku class😂😂😂 the (A) student paying attention 😂😂
@lebomasuku4965 😂😂😂😂A students
The witness is not okay and has not been ok since 2 days ago. The state is wasting time they should’ve arranged other witnesses since we saw this lady was not well.
She is part of the cellphone information. How can they jump around to other witnesses
@@user-jx7dz4ft1g they can do that hence the judge was asking if Mnisi's ballistic expert was available, and also asked the state where the other witnesses were
Ba go laile
Ratha was not invited because they know his gonna finish the Brandy
😂
Theyre fed up with his disgusting biased behaviour
Uyagula u pinky
If this witness can pass away, because of this flue, heh! Angazi
Can they give this witnesses pink water please tjoo😢
They probably don't need you or trust you
Baloyi can't answer a simple question how many of the witness left he probably don't know he talks about time he's not finish cooking
JP JP JP
Bo Muzi ba ganela sengwe le sengwe even when the records clearly stipulates the facts
Awu madoda this country comes far thanks judge for lo mrhabulo
Upinky akasakwazi ukukhuluma😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ayamkhama I amanga
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It seems all the people with comments here if you were all judges every before you judges were supposed to be found guilty,many don't know what really happened for him to escape but quick to judge shame
I don't get your comment, what are you sayings, seems like you were quick to send
Get well Pinky we want to know who & why sim swap was done on Senzos phone
The BLA how can you exclude Ratha? shame on you!
He should check his attitude
@georgetenela7681 I agree his attitude shame
You think Ramosepedi will invite the serpent to such a function? Never 🤣🤣🔥
The BLA know how to deflate the ego of a bigoted overrated dinosaur. Do you honestly think that Ramosepedi will want his day ruined by such a person? No ways! 🤣🤣
Introspection
Ay ay u Pinky ujugula kwakhe seku extra, uzobuya singing a different tune lo
Senzo Meyiwa's soul will never rest in peace bcz of dis useless fairytales from a judge who suppose to take dis matter seriously always joking
Why was Kelly K calling David Mathebula
Coz usewaba isangoma uphatha amakhathakhatha
@@MrenaRusai what’s amakhathakhatha?
Mathebulas mother is a witch doctor
Wen was the 205 of Kelly ,Senzo and Chicco done coz were told after 3 years date cant be retrieved. The state is afraid the accused will walk if 2014 section 205s are brought in😂😂😂
Uyaxoka lo pinky
Uyaxoka kodwa information suka kwa Vodacom 😅
mr ratha right now i wish it was an english or afrikaans speaking person had to judge this case and he/she will no interest on the proceedings
Hayi bo Ratha African law is there in BLS countries, and it will be easy to incorporate it here in South Africa
muthi is working the woman is sick
Stupid ghost nation will say pinky is paid 😢
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Ngzomshaya lokubuzile we Soothsayer
😂😂😂You are right
They've started already ....can't handle the truth.
Pinky is better today
Ratha just playing like not liking the Tuesday. But he is fine
Ratha likes it so much when the court adjournes, but pretends not to like it😅.
Why does the case have to wait while they are other witnesses... Kanti I state siphelelwe ama substitute... Kumele baze ne witness ibe on the field one or two ibe Ku bench incase one gets injured the trial moves... This is deliberately ay
😂😂😂😂 ama substitut
They're wasting time because state has no case here
@@awardjafar2928 lol yah they have to be substitutes here one gets sick substitute gets in the case gets moving
@@njabulojb2994 this time waisting doesn't help, it's better to waste time knowing you are leading... Manje it's still a draw but you wasting time ay this is not on
It's insane really,, where are the substitute bcaz we all know that there is a million of witnesses awaiting to be called by the states,, so why must we wait for someone who is really sick and we don't even know how long is it gonna take her to fully recover 💔
Ratha why don't you greet people mara
Lies lies choking her
Kuphi na apha nha kusese nkantolo
AZAPO groomed more people
Getting paid for this 🤔🤔
Baloi no longer have cooked witneses
that's why they are co-braai pinky now
Kanti baphi abanye owitness bakabaloyi ma kugula upink kungene omunye sesolindana nalona ayi suka
Witness is tired of lying
Go and help with the truth
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Nizofa Pinky ngenxa yamanga😂😂😂
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Baphi abantu
Ukhwehlela manga lona uzofa ngamanga cc
Cde Ratha you came a long way, whether they like it or not Justice will be served.
What's wrong with Pinky guys?Seems she is very sick
I think she needs water, she's been talking for a long time and that can cause how you hear her speaking😢
Muthi is working
Hayi kuyathakathwa apha ndincameli ndithe nesana elivele izolo liyabona
Whether you like it or not , there will be African law, wena madala you're here with yr apartheid mentality
The whole week sibanda is there mxm
So kosiza ngani umlando we apartheid in ds case
Pink was bought really
David Mathebula had dreadlocks and is short. Mmmmh m having bad thoughts now🤔😜
😂😂😂😂😂😂
😅😅😅😅 your thought is bad indeed
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Durban " 🙄,mxm!
Interpreter voice not make sure
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Loooool n i noticed that 2