Dodge Challenger SRT8 and 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T | Vanishing Point Revisited | Edmunds.com
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"Our sole Challenger has just broken the ring of evil the deep blue meanies have so righteously wrought - get through 'em baby, get through 'em." - Super Soul, Vanishing Point 1971
It happens deep in the Nevada desert, just past Austin. On a long, straight section of road with nothing to lose, our friends in the white 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T finally put the hammer down. At once, the rawness and purity of Kowalski's ride pulverizes the well-insulated interior of our 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8, shredding the peace inside the modern car's cockpit with the same brute force Kowalski used to pierce a hole in the cool desert air 38 years ago. Even with my right foot buried, I see nothing but taillights until they disappear into the desert.
In these few brief seconds, the 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 is clearly defined by its soft edges and quiet exhaust. Manufacturers don't let us feel cars raw and unfiltered anymore. Hammering down a desert road with a thin-rimmed steering wheel and pistol-grip shifter - that's raw. Four hundred and forty cubic inches and a four-speed - that's raw. Powerslides unhampered by electronic intervention - that's raw.
In 1970, when Kowalski drove this very road - U.S. Highway 50 through Nevada - he felt it. And it was raw.
I like the 70's stance much more than any other modern or lowered stance I have seen on a muscle car.
The guy driving the challenger rt is my art teacher !!! He has the car and pictures when the video was being made. He also had a picture of him and the car against the challenger srt8
Alexis Hernandez That’s the coolest art teacher on this world!
I pulled my 73 Challenger into a MickeyDs in VA last weekend. Parked next to a 09 Challenger and everybody spilled out into the parking lot to check them out! We parked them nose to nose and people were taken pictures and shaking hands. What a blast! I love the U.S.A. and my classic Challenger!!!
I saw this great film on a double-feature with "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid". And the first time I saw breasts on film! But the car, the car... oooh. Fast forward to 1976, when I bought my first car, a '71 Challenger R/T. Bright yellow with the stripes on the side. Probably not the kind of car my Mom wanted in the driveway - though my dear Dad never said a word. Maybe he was envious. :)
+Stephen Goodman , your dad probably smiled when he saw you with that car. Are your parents still married?
The old one beats the new one hands down for looks. It's beautiful.
+Matthew H , but does your old one have a Hellcat package?
Pax Humana 😂😂
Matthew H atleast these new challengers are starting to look like the ones from the 70s they're beautiful revisions. much better than the ugly muscle cars from the 00s
Let us all relive those days in the 70's. Most of 70's cars are gone. Have a 2011 and it's terrific and comfortable and reminds me so much of my 70 challenger. Please be positive. We both agree that there is nothing better than a mopar, no matter what the year.
Matthew. I agree. I own both cars, one of each. Looks--- 1970 chrome and all.
Like the old man once said "they just don't build them like they used to"
amen buddy
1971 challenger is the best car in the world
More B-Rex ONLY a HEMI CAR
That was a great movie!! I was only 12 when I saw it at the theater, naked lady on a honda in the desert and everything!! ;-)
New Challenger is a very nice modern homage to the old, but still doesn't really capture its essence. I strongly prefer the old Challenger.
Josh Sheets , you first, shithead, and thank you for telling me what you are in real life.
you look at them rev and the old dodge is shaking around from all the power driving it.
I agree with you 100% there! I remember those old Cragar SS rims as a kid growing up in the '60s and a proper resto just ain't right without those famous Cragars seen so often back in the day! The Cragars can be defined as the "Holy Grail" of rims back in those days-the days when rims were called just that--"Mags"! When was the last time someone heard that word lately-"Mags"? Those days indeed will always be remembered as "The good 'ol days" of muscle cars and Hot Rods! : )
Remember that vanishing point commercial when I was 14 everybody wanted to see that movie
Who would have guessed that a guy of Polish origin would be America's driving icon?
Brilliant tribute to one of my all-time favourite films and cars!
Oh, and massive envy here! ;D
You are totally and utterly correct my friend :)
Back then there was no seatbelt laws,or child safety seat laws either.we have become a society of safety regulations so much, we have lost our freedoms in the 21st century.my God people wouldn't know what to do today, if we returned to the way it was when this movie was released.
His Mustang did not have the 428, it was the 390 I believe and was only rated at 300HP or so. They tested it and the 0-60 was 7.5 and that was the actual car used for the film.
I dig the 09 R/T with the 5.7 Hemi. To me it seems like the perfect muscle car for today. Not crazy bad on gas millage yet powerful and it can break and handle! Also it is at least 15 grand less than any European car with the same type of power. I can see your point about the Charger, man were they cool in the 70's as 2 doors or what? I think the Challenger is headed in a nice direction. I am going to most likely pick one up. (gotta drive it of course)
These cars are like what my older brothers and there friends drove.They where a part of there generations and the future of America.
Hello
You see this movie?
Hello Lucy you home.
+Kevin Klink Yes back then I was 20 years old The movie is just one crazy chase a bit like Thelma and Louise without the guns
when i was in high school i drove a 1969 charger ,back in the 80's .. good old days
Glad the New Challengers were Such Fateful Updates to the original, Unlike the Charger
Diddo for all modern wheels. The ugly 5 spoke looking wheels they put on all new sports cars look terrible. It kills me to see a classic muscle car like a Chevelle, Challenger, Charger, Mustang, etc with modern spoke wheels. The original wheel designs were perfect for me.
The original Challenger appears much more sleek and trim than the new one. They had to build the new Challenger around the same chassis as the 300 and Charger, forcing it to conform to the high fire wall and tall frame. The original Challenger was its own car, shared underpinnings only with the Cuda.
love the car and loved that movie ...keep the videos coming
The best scene in the movie was in the beginning when the police helicopter is fly beside the Challenger and Kowalski downshifts his Hurst pistol gripe shifter into 3rd gear and out runs the copter. The sound of the 440's AFB carborator howling is one of the best sounds in the world. The best in my opinion is the sound of a Rolls Royce British Spitfire passing over head. Now there is a sound.
my brother took me to the drive-in to see that movie when it came out...I was 9.....loved mopars ever since...and blondes too!!!! ;)
I lived that era...saw it at a drive in theater. Surpurb classic movie!!!
True, good catch, and it was a '69 Camaro they wrecked, not a '68. Had to review the old movie last night. Besides, I should've remembered because the Challenger I had back in the 80's had a 440 in it. At one time I had several Mopars. Should have kept them all!
OK, let's talk Mopar... I was a Ford Mustang man until about 1975. I purchased a used 71 Dodge Demon off a used car lot. 340 with a thermoquad carb and a set of Hooker headers. and 727 torque~flight tranny. The car was a street killer. I put away many 454s, 427s, 396s, and even 383s and 440s. I didn't have the car long enough to find any or all the tricks that made this 12:04 et car a beast. Back in 75 a 12 second street car was a real killer. I did demolish it by the end of the year street racing. Never knew if that 340 was a freak running engine or what. I later purchased a 71 Duster 340, but with a smaller Carter 4 bbl. I did some tweaking and later slapped an Edelbrock manifold and a thermoquad carb on it. It was also a street beast, but not like the 71 Demon. As a Ford man I can say Mopar had the power!!!
Ford should’ve put their 4 barrel 351 Cleveland in their Maverick. It would’ve been the perfect competition against the Dart and Duster 340’s and even Chevrolet’s Nova SS
if the old Challenger was on sale for the same price next to the new one... who the fuck would buy the new one?
The new Challenger is as ugly as a big lumpy flea-bitten butt on a morbidly obese woman in a motorized shopping cart at Vons.
great job on the driverside mirror anb delete on the passenger side. many replicas forget that detail. Also the mirror was fro the 68' camaro that they destroyed at the end. The shape of it was easier for filming reverse shots. Great job thanks for the "acurate" memories.
Father and son
Like stupid guys like you, you smart and young, because you donsnt understand the movie! Hello from belgium sorry for my poor english or american
That old muscle screams "Badass!"
That was the ultimate movie!
Charlie, it also screams " sleeper" really cool car ,
For me it screams RESIDENT EVIL because in part 7 that was Ethan Winters’ car, it makes fighting Jack in the garage of the Baker House easier, and in part 3 Jill Valentine drove an orange one into Nemesis and than drove it off the top level of a parking garage with Nemesis still hanging onto the grill.
There wasn't a Hemi in the old challenger they showcased, it was a standard piston head 440
I would rather have the "Raw and Intimidating one"
Nice redo! Mopar or no car.👍🙏😎❤️🇺🇸
that was the best damn movie ever filmed to this day hands down number one awesome brother
como se llama la pelicula que aparece al inicio del video ????
I'll take both please
It's a 70, not a 71.
The remake of the movie is a joke compared to the original
Really good car! I would like to have one of those one day. It's one things that bugs me.. That is not the correct steeringwheel!
600+ hp on those tires, ur crazy😂
Can't decide between buying a 67 mustang fastback or 1971 challenger
+dylan morrison challenger .. theres alot of mustangs own a challenger while you have the chance
dylan morrison both cool ass cars hard pick. Id go for the one in the best shape .get the most out of your budget . got to go with your gut sometimes to. And the heart . mine says the 71 good luck
New Challenger is like the old one which has gotten fat and has took silicone transplants and botox. Bigger ear rings doesn't save it.
the bolnde on the bike that seen sticks in my mind
bias ply tires lmao with 600 hp amazing it stays on the road @ all
I love this movie. I saw it when it was first released and havent seen it since. Nadine
It wasn't a hemi, the engine was a 440 magnum
unfair comparison, First off At the least the new challenger is a srt8 vs a r/t, He's running a 6.1 liter/383 c.i. and the other guy is running a 440 bored to 472 pushing 600+ horses and the 08' has all that electronic fuel injection and crap, now when it comes to reliability, practicality, of course the 08' wins, but 70' is packed with horses and shit the 70' is like a Party pack For crying out loud
I don't care what they try to do with the new models. They will never have the soul of the original cars from the 60s and 70s. The new challenger looks really fat and bulky like a tonka truck. It looks like a kids toy made to be easy to grip and without any sharp edges, all rounded and plastic for safety. The original cars are simply alive, stunning, and most importantly; raw, dangerous, and intimidating.
@Sethi1st i am in australia and a late friend of mine had a challanger SE 383 fucking quick car ! and the best looking car i had ever layed my eyes on !.we fitted a 440 stroker 512 ci with fisher blower into it and full floating romac axels 9in diff but he was killed before it was finnished , i kick my self every day for not buying that car of his dad .
Old cars are beautiful. I love this 1970 Challenger:)
on the original move the car at the end slaming into the bulldozers is a 69 camaro .. yeah i slowed it down its true the didnt crash it , the body line on the car impacting the dozer blades and exploding into flames has NO hip like a challanger dose,
The Challenger used for close up and non stunt parts WAS a real Hemi car, not supercharged. The 70 Dodge Challenger never came as a supercharged car nor was there any reference to it being one in the movie.
It looked clear as you can get a movie for the 70's, And it came with alot of Extras like the US and UK version the trailer and a load of commentary. im lucky as it was the only copy there.
I love the Challenger...the new Challenger SRT is awesome in black, and i woud love to owne one....but...my favorite is still the 1970 Dodge challenger R/T with the magnum engine and in black....lool
The new Challenger is a great car... i wish i had one.... but the other one..... the 1970 Dodge chanllenger R/T with a 440 Magnum engine.... it is just much better. I WANT ONE!
The beauty of the modern cars is they are more efficient, faster, and safer. We may have been more independent in the earlier days, but we are a more advanced society now.
The final scene where he plows into the bulldozers blades they used a Camero, you really have to do slow motion to see it.The rest of the movie was a 70 CHALLENGER.
@Sethi1st haha your in egypt dude lol what you going to do with a dodge R/T challanger in egypt dive it in the desert ? hahahaha fucking sick video.i have it
so nice rumbling sound, so unique dodges ,not like audi 100,audi 80 which are awfully designed cars and are the worst ever made.
Had a friend in high school... who had a 1971 Challenger RT / 383 magnum....and it was bad ass.....fast!
It feels how close the third gen Challenger was close to the original E-Body car by the spirit not like the rest of the 21st century muscles/ponies that went too avant-gardish. So sad their time has gone for good after 15 years of glory
I think that Challenger 70's is the best muscle car ever, I love this movie and I have a dream to visit America at least once in my life and see this miracle in person, and if I ever ride it, it will be something unreal. Hello in the U.S. from Ukraine!
well, a Blu ray player is nearly the same (or was) the same price as a PS3 so i would recomend PS3 over just a player.
WAY better looking then Charger
+Adrian Fidi ...but the modern Charger has WAY better engine options than its classical counterpart, and MUCH better options than its 1980s counterpart.
+Pax Humana I'd take a 440, 383, or 426 hemi over any modern Chrysler engine.
if you have time skills place , or money to pay others
you can have modern tech on an old car
power steering , climatronic , fast shifting auto gearbox , LSD , ABS , airbags , audio ...
@FuckSlice i like the cuda best ! then challanger . then the rt charger dam it there all red hot i want all of them !
I love Dodge Challenger. Classic and Modern version (with 6+ liter engine).
@the934x4 Ya the 426 Hemi was optional, but the orginal cars that they used to make the movie with were 383 and 440 cars. I think they had two of them one a 383 the other was a 440. I'm not 100% sure but I think they made the whole movie with just two cars, and those two weren't destroyed. The people in the movie were impressed by the cars, they never broke down. That's why in the end they smash a camaro not a challenger
4.9 liter Pontiac turbos were offered in 1980 and 1981, and they made 210 hp, not 150. But they are considered inferior to the earlier 6.6 no turbo cars, due to their excessive detonation, soft throttle response, and peaky torque curve.
American manufacturers didn't do much racing in Europe. They were more concerned with the corner-carving SCCA Trans-Am series. But Ford did campaign several U.S. Falcons in the Monte Carlo Rally from 1963 to 1965, and they walked away with several class wins.
Nope in Both movies it had a Hemi. I have both movies on DVD and have watched them several times. They even have to go to the salvage yard to get the Hemi oil pan which gives away their position after he drives through the desert and hits a rock or something. According to the movies it was a Hemi Car. They had to slow the car down several times because he kept out running the helicopter that was trying to film it.
Holy shit that was funny. Because its so true. We could all be at the drive in hating eachother. Then the Mint Javalin shows up and everyone is like check out the rare ride. You would think they were driving a german one off.
AMC. Hmm best I ever saw was a souped up AMC Gremlin that was turned into a 4x4 with about a 1 foot lift. Now that was cool. Even though the Gremlin sucked the shit out of a a dead pigs ass.
Four doors out sell two doors. The Charger was always suypposed to be the nicer luxiery type muscle car. I prefer the 4-door if it is designed correctly. Two doors are higher to insure no one can get in and out of the back. More cars are 4 door becuase it is functional and there is nothing wrong with that. Old cars looked ugly as two doors because there were always designed as two doors.
I swear on my life. It just wasn't a HORRIBLE REMAKE. It was a HORRIBLE Movie! I mean one of the worst movies i've ever seen that that's me trying to actually come off nice on this. The only good thing is seeing the Dodge Challenger & 68 Dodge Charger. Otherwise go burn all the copies that exist. You wanna torture someone,forget the electric chair, put them to watch the remake of this awesome movie.
I think your source is wrong Neurot.I have never read anything about those cars being cabled together. Not only would that be a great exageration that the mustang couldn't keep up, especially the way Steve McQueen drove,(he stunt-drove the Mustang) but it would be incredibly dangerous for both drivers in either car. The only cabling I've read about, is that they cabled a Challenger(actually a Camaro)at the end of Vanishing Point to another Challenger and pulled it up to the bulldozers.
@GlennFalconiVEVO Newer American cars are actually fairly dependable cars. Yes they might not be performance cars but they very functional and durable. They are also a good value. Look at China, They love American cars. They want value and problem free cars that doesn’t need to be repaired often. The result is the last I knew Buick was the number one import into China.
@GlennFalconiVEVO Jaguar’s are Fords. Fords sold Jag, but they are still involved. Helping out with the engineering. Look how much quality improved after Ford took over. As for the Challenger in this Vid, It's a low 12 or maybe even a high 11 second quarter mile car since it has a built up motor installed.
Nothing beats the original muscle cars! They may try to duplicate the body shapes but they'll never match the raw muscle and love people had for these beasts back in the day. People fell in love with these cars back in the 60's and 70's. Those days are gone with all the car companies feeding us crap for the last 37+ years!
Like the Seven-ups Bullit was kinda boring until the chase scene, lotsa boring police rhetoric then BAM. This whole movie almost was action like Dirty Mary Crazy Larry! Not taking anything away from Bullit or 7-ups Bullit was a trail blazer for the modern day car chases. But for older chases look up Thunder Road with Robert Mitchum, and Hot Rods To Hell!
1. There were no turbo Trans Ams in 1978
2. "Old American cars are not made to drive fast in turns" is a blanket statement....it really depends on the old American car in question. Corvette Stingrays, AMC Javelin SSTs, and Boss 302 Mustangs would hang with the world's best in the corners.
Turn off the ESP! I do not know about the 6-speed but I drove an SRT8 Charger and it was insane! I have a Charger R/T and I have done all simple mods and it does not even feel close to the instant power the 6.1 has. Besides most ratings show the new one to be faster that the 70' HEMI.
yea they look better and sound better and all that BUT
old cars are heavy as shit and it takes alot more to get them rolling
an 18 second 1/4 mile was fast for a muscle car of the 60's and 70's now they build cars that can do less than 15 from the factory, that was almost unheard of in 1970
I love them both too...the old & the new Challenger but one thing i wish they do is drop 1,000 pounds from the new Challenger. I read somewhere it's like over 4,000 pounds...jesus christ. Otherwise it's a gorgeous car. My dream car in fact. I'll take the new Challenger over any other car on the planet.
my favorite are old shelby gt 500(Y)
Old Challenger will never die!!
Dodge instead of making a new challenger should just re-create the one that we all love, like guitar companies do, they bring back old guitars just as they were back then. How hard is it to recreate the car with new safety stuff and a raw V8?
it looks big and bulky, just like the dodge magnum, chysler 300m and all the other chrysler products
Gotta love this car. But i've said this many times before, almost every Vanishing Point replica has got the wrong steeringwheel. It's supposed to be the Rim Blown. Despite that i really do love this car.
A HEMI is not a jet engine, do you mean in a plane? Well Chrysler made a V-16 engine for a fighter plane but was never used. HEMI engines go back to 1903 and could never be used in a "jet".
2015 charger? There will be a chrysler in 2015? Lol just kidding! anyway I would like to own a challenger even the v6 one. Only thing chrysler needs to really get rid of is that god ugly mercedes van!!!
why are people putting a 2009/2010 GTR against a dodge that nearly has 40 years between them.I would like to see a nissan of those years race against a 1970 440 challenger R/T
They said it all, if you like car movies this is one to watch. The whole damn movie is a car chase almost and the Challenger is the star, Barry Newman is a great supporting actor though!!
I like how the new challengers has a body style that actually looks like the orignal. Unlike the new chargers and don't get me wrong there a good looking cars. But not my style.
If I ever visit the US, sure I will rent a charger or challenger if I find one and drive throug it. I want to do the same in europe this summer with my citroen : ).
When i saw this car @ the Auto Show in NYC i knew right away what it was without even looking at the name plate, but as the narrorator said, the old is still better.
I like both the original movie and the remake, they are so..uhm..inspiring?xD hehe bad english, but the original Challenger is waaaaay better than the new one!
@darryleshelly dude everything that appears on Barret Jackson Auctions is revered, every car is loved by someone, and true car enthusiasts love all cars.
the new cars problem is that its not as wide so it dosent look right. And they keep referring to how american it is but underneath is a mercedes chasis.
I much prefer the look of the original Challenger...though I owned a 71 Challenger for over 12 years, so perhaps I am biased, like the original's tires.