I've had two of their PCs in the past - you are right on every count. 1) The best of the best, and 2) you pay for it. I did decide to build my current PC due to their cost, but my previous one is still in use - by my wife - some 10 years later.
Hey @Robeytech - glad to see this review. I was lucky enough to work for Kelt at Falcon NW back in the early-ish days (late 90's, early 2000's). I took a great amount of pride in being able to build and craft these things to the very highest standard. Some of my most favorite time in my entire career has been doing the work at FNW. Good times! Glad to see the sprit is still kicking ass!
With how the market is going, their prices seem more and more reasonable. They essentially force you to buy high end (you should know this if you're considering to buy from them) and if you're contemplating pulling the trigger without building one yourself, the premium starts to make sense. For example, sure Xidax, Maingear, etc. can build a similar build for cheaper, but I would much rather pay for the tank of a case and the added engineering for an extra $500-$1000. When I buy, I buy for the next 5 years minimum. These guys are the safest option out there by far, but that peace of mind comes with a price tag and fairly so. Great review.
I tried to copy their cable management for my personal build with cable extensions, I got close but couldn't get it as perfect as them. Falcon Northwest has always been a dream when I started building PCs a over a decade ago. Remember those days when they used Silverstone cases...timeless cases!
@@CobraKaiNoMercy I wanted to upgrade the GPU to 4090. They want me to mail the PC and a Founders Edition 4090 so they can move all componentes to the bigger 2023 Talon Case. All for $999. Is jsut too much. I'll by another Talon in 2026 then.
I’ve built several of my own PCs and I would still consider a Falcon Northwest. Why? Lifetime technical support. Let me tell you. It’s always good to have a number to call if you get yourself into trouble.
I had a Falcon many years ago, it was great. After buying an Alienware R11 about 2 years ago I’ll be going back to Falcon at the end of this year. I’m looking forward to coming fold. Falcon is the best.
@@v4v819 absolute junk. Everything on it is proprietary so nothing is upgradable. The case cooling, or lack of, makes it run hot. It’s packed with Dell crapware. Avoid Alienware at all cost.
I've owned several of these over the years including their laptop. They last forever, they're virtually silent, and they don't break. I don't mind spending the extra money to have something this high end and super reliable.
I have loved Falcon Northwest since Maximum PC and the popular PC/gaming magazines back in the 90s. I am so tempted to get one now. I usually build my own PCs, but I am really stoked about finally (possibly) owning a FNW.
This company is good to see, it survived so many years while killing it. Never owned one but have always been amazed at the builds, paints, parts, cases....
Love to see falcons system they are not cheap but, you want performance and quality you can't go cheap! They used all quality components and latest tech. Like Asus ROG
great system the way you explained it. I just saw Braethorn video on a system like this and i didnt liked the PC but looking at yours i love it. wished i could buy one i would but my system is high end but i buy a part at a time so that i can have it. love the content
The prebuild looks great, I love the AMD 7950x but as an Argentinian i got to say that it's to expensive a 1k overprice.. but on the other hand you get the warranty.. thanks for the review!
It's waaayyyyyyy more than $1000. lol You could get a $90 case(4000D airflow) while this guy claims this one is $1500. I priced out the same build for about $2500 total. That's almost 1/3 the price of this. The custom cables are completely unnecessary. I feel like the hyped aspects of this company are completely nonsense. I'd never spend $6500 for a pc that didn't even have the flagship gpu of the generation. Absolutely ridiculous.
@@capitol1828 De gustibus non est disputandum, I for one plan to get one later this year. I want a pc that'll last 15-20+years even well after it becomes obsolete.
Sweet rig and didn't even know they still made PC's. Remember their ads in PCGamer and MAXIMUMPC when I was a teenager in the late 90's. Question.....did you confirm their benchmark scores they sent with the system? How'd they stack up if you did?
I have been buying their computers for about 20 years. I think I am on my fifth computer from them. I have never had problems with them until my current one...and they fixed it free of charge I think I just had to cover shipping. Luckily the issue I faced hit me at the 2 year 11 month mark and it was still covered by their 3 year warranty. When I got it back from them it was like brand new again the cleaned every speck of dust off the inside and outside of the machine. This machine is now toward the end of its life as I do not make any upgrades. I am currently pricing a new one as its age is finally catching up and the games do not look as good at they should or the videos I see on youtube. In the past 2 times I tried to save some money and switch to a different builder I tried Ibuypower and Alienware both machines I returned after having issues right out of the box.
The whole build is impressive… …only problem is that somebody who wants that bottom rear intake fan for that GPU but also wants to add more cards to the desktop will have to get a little creative; trying to keep just one of these features impedes the other one. Fan included in stock, it’s suitable for gaming, but not streaming unless the feed is doubled or you use a Thunderbolt enclosure…
Yeah but external capture cards seem to be the more stable way to go, I am sure you are right there are folks who are for sure going to need expansions, just not sure how mainstream that is.
@@robeytech I've just looked up how to turn PCI-E slots into an 80mm fan and according to a US-only Newegg link, Sliger had this technology in the pocket, albeit for server rack configurations (look up Sliger IOCV 180A PCI slot case cooler). So Falcon might've been inspired to adapt this slot-to-fan method towards rear air intake for the GPU, but I think there might be a way to adapt this for current and future horizontal GPU configs in larger cases for not only additional air intake for the GPU, but also taking advantage of the empty vertical GPU slot for expansion from one or two of the remaining non-GPU slots on the motherboard. Of course the GPU air intake addition will require sticking the Sliger fan gadget on the bottom horizontal slot covers under the GPU, but if somebody wants to add more capture cards to the system (without using Thunderbolt), they'll need to get one 90-degree PCI-E riser cable for each non-GPU slot and align the cards so they'll slot into each half of the vertical slot. Only problem for motherboards with PCI-E 5.0 GPU slot and only one PCI-E 4.0 x4 slot is that I don't know if there are or will ever be special riser cables that will split the slot from PCI-E 4.0 x4 to dual PCI-E 3.0 x4 slots. And I highly doubt that the Talon case will even be large enough to fit even one slot. Maybe this needs further investigation?
My next PC build is a 13900k with an EVGA Classified Z690 motherboard, EVGA 360mm AIO, EVGA 1200W PSU, 2TB SSD for the Windows 11 OS, DDR5 RAM. I have a 3090 already so I'll use that till I can get a 4090 Kingpin - which I want just because of the overclocking and built in AIO. And yes - it's expensive, but I have the money.
Really great video! I built my first PC this year & your channel helped a ton. This pre built is amazing but that price sheesh, but i get it. There a ton of companies with claims of performance & no info to back it up. The fact this company does that is awesome.
Only thing they didn't do is put a filter on that back 80 mm fan and no hard line cooling and they could have eliminated that back 80 intake fan with a water block on the GPU. Wouldn't make it run any better but just saying for 6500.
It is certainly beautiful. However, the configurations that I just put together on their site were all well over $4000. Unfortunately, because of the pricing, I would classify this as a piece of art or a collector edition tier product. This rules me out as I just can't justify the money on a one of a kind item. Like you said Robey, eye of beholder and the company's choice to charge the premium for clearly a premium product. I still enjoyed the video and got a laugh when you opened up the back of the case.
The truth is Falcon Northwest knows they are top quality and don't expect to be selling majorly like Origin, HP or iBuyPower. I've always wanted a falcon Northwest and never have I seen a RUclipsr do a review on their hardware. Great review all around.
I wanted to comment because I own a falcon Northwest talen I somewhat regret my purchase, but I am moving forward with a custom build on a custom made case because I could not find one anywhere on the market for my needs. It is the S 700 and it is no longer made by Salvo Studios but I got the last one and I’m having it modded for $1500 and to upgrade materials and some other things and this came at a good time because now I make $440 per day in oil and gas industry the one downfall of the falcon is video card support the cards are getting just too big and the difficulty in finding a founders card now or in the future will for the most part be impossible and water cooling I think will be in everyone’s future just because of the size that things are getting
the main motherboard cable isn't a cable mod its an extension not impressed for the money you can go to corsair and get a proper kit and there are loads of places that will make a hand built cable in the colour you want
@@robeytech I know my friend I would cave replaced the hole thing. if a Modular PSU was used a lot of the time we can get replacement cables for the high end PSU
Never been a fan of prebuilts, but with this one I "get it". If I was into buying tech as a pleasure hobby, and didn't want to tinker at all then I could see myself buying this if I was loaded. Luckily I am a tinkerer ;)
I'm not bothered by the price since Falcon Northwest is on par with other boutique vendors like Maingear and Digital Storm so I don't mind paying extra for build quality and stress testing but if a system integrator don't offer cases with front airflow and an air cooler on an i7 or a Ryzen 7 tier CPU then they are dead to me.
honestly dont see the hype with them, case is expensive sure but to not even get full custom cables and just extensions.....yeah idk about that at 6.5k and been marketed as premium.
they do go through and resleeve each cable individually which takes a lot of labor. one big thing for me is they sort through cpus and gpus and stress test them for you so you make sure you win the silicon lottery.
I've had two of their PCs in the past - you are right on every count. 1) The best of the best, and 2) you pay for it. I did decide to build my current PC due to their cost, but my previous one is still in use - by my wife - some 10 years later.
Thank you Ken!!
Hey @Robeytech - glad to see this review. I was lucky enough to work for Kelt at Falcon NW back in the early-ish days (late 90's, early 2000's). I took a great amount of pride in being able to build and craft these things to the very highest standard. Some of my most favorite time in my entire career has been doing the work at FNW. Good times! Glad to see the sprit is still kicking ass!
That's awesome. I can see why you would take so much pride. They build incredible systems.
With how the market is going, their prices seem more and more reasonable. They essentially force you to buy high end (you should know this if you're considering to buy from them) and if you're contemplating pulling the trigger without building one yourself, the premium starts to make sense. For example, sure Xidax, Maingear, etc. can build a similar build for cheaper, but I would much rather pay for the tank of a case and the added engineering for an extra $500-$1000. When I buy, I buy for the next 5 years minimum. These guys are the safest option out there by far, but that peace of mind comes with a price tag and fairly so. Great review.
I tried to copy their cable management for my personal build with cable extensions, I got close but couldn't get it as perfect as them. Falcon Northwest has always been a dream when I started building PCs a over a decade ago. Remember those days when they used Silverstone cases...timeless cases!
Bought a maxed out 2021 Talon last year. Definitely worth it! Built like a tank and 100% stable.
I bought a Talon back in 2020.
@@CobraKaiNoMercy I wanted to upgrade the GPU to 4090. They want me to mail the PC and a Founders Edition 4090 so they can move all componentes to the bigger 2023 Talon Case. All for $999. Is jsut too much. I'll by another Talon in 2026 then.
@jshowa o have 2 cars already 🤷🏾♂️
@jshowa o so?
I’ve built several of my own PCs and I would still consider a Falcon Northwest.
Why? Lifetime technical support. Let me tell you. It’s always good to have a number to call if you get yourself into trouble.
Just ordered with these specs:
Talon
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition - 24GB
EVGA SuperNOVA P2 1200 Watt
Asus ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming WIFI
Intel Core i9-13900K 24-Core - 2.2GHz to 5.80GHz
Falcon Northwest Liquid Cooling - 280MM
Kingston Fury Beast 64GB (2x32GB) - 5200MHz
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB - PCIe M.2 SSD
Kingston FURY Renegade 2TB - PCIe M.2 SSD
Microsoft Windows 11 PRO
How'd it turn out for you? Those spec are very similar to the one I'm planning to order from them later this year.
How has this been working for you? I'm considering something similar now.
I bought a Talon back in 2020 and apart from upgrading the GPU, it has run flawlessly
I had a Falcon many years ago, it was great. After buying an Alienware R11 about 2 years ago I’ll be going back to Falcon at the end of this year. I’m looking forward to coming fold. Falcon is the best.
They really are
@@robeytech I couldn’t wait ‘till years end so I ordered one today. I’m sure it’s going to be just as great as my last one (2008) was.
@@RobertRidgley How was the Alienware?
@@v4v819 absolute junk. Everything on it is proprietary so nothing is upgradable. The case cooling, or lack of, makes it run hot. It’s packed with Dell crapware. Avoid Alienware at all cost.
@@RobertRidgley how was the falcon you ordered this year
I've owned several of these over the years including their laptop. They last forever, they're virtually silent, and they don't break. I don't mind spending the extra money to have something this high end and super reliable.
Just ordered a pc from falcon. Thanks for the video!
I am on my fourth Falcon and agree with everything you said.
Falcon Northwest has been building the best for years. Loved this video.
I think anybody that works or has worked in engineering can appreciate something like this versus a generic big box brand. Great system.
I used to run the falcon northwest lanbox, back in 2004 when people still had lan parties. It always got looks. Man those were the days.
I have loved Falcon Northwest since Maximum PC and the popular PC/gaming magazines back in the 90s. I am so tempted to get one now. I usually build my own PCs, but I am really stoked about finally (possibly) owning a FNW.
This company is good to see, it survived so many years while killing it. Never owned one but have always been amazed at the builds, paints, parts, cases....
Love to see falcons system they are not cheap but, you want performance and quality you can't go cheap! They used all quality components and latest tech. Like Asus ROG
Great review. More drool-worthy content. Are the fans used in the Talon the same fans used in the Fragbox?
Nice about time someone gave some light to Falconwest ! Can a Falconwest be used for just basic browsing and not gaming use.?
great system the way you explained it. I just saw Braethorn video on a system like this and i didnt liked the PC but looking at yours i love it. wished i could buy one i would but my system is high end but i buy a part at a time so that i can have it. love the content
Would love to see you check out one of their TIKI smaller form factor systems, especially for how they execute with this generation of hot hardware
Yeah I would love to as well!
I AM ROOTING FOR THE SUCCESS OF YOUR CHANNEL BRO!
Thank you so much
The case alone is a piece of art.
I’ll be saving up for this one. Yeah it’s a lot of money but the quality and piece of mind with the warranty is worth it to me.
Yeah, quite a PC
How much money? just paid 2,700 for a pre build from corsair with a 3080
@@JonJayMMA $6,000 and up for most Falcon Northwest builds.
If I ever win the lottery I know what I am buying hands down. Great video as usual RT.
The prebuild looks great, I love the AMD 7950x but as an Argentinian i got to say that it's to expensive a 1k overprice.. but on the other hand you get the warranty.. thanks for the review!
It's waaayyyyyyy more than $1000. lol You could get a $90 case(4000D airflow) while this guy claims this one is $1500. I priced out the same build for about $2500 total. That's almost 1/3 the price of this. The custom cables are completely unnecessary. I feel like the hyped aspects of this company are completely nonsense. I'd never spend $6500 for a pc that didn't even have the flagship gpu of the generation. Absolutely ridiculous.
@@capitol1828 De gustibus non est disputandum, I for one plan to get one later this year. I want a pc that'll last 15-20+years even well after it becomes obsolete.
Nice I've always loved there craftsman ship. Can the Talon be used other than for gaming? Like browsing the net youtube etc.etc
Of course it can yes.
so i have a 8 year old falcon pc and its pretty good for its age. It has 32 gb of ram and 1tb of storage, the newest ones are the best of the best!
Hahaha you had me rolling at 5:21 . This does look like a fantastic PC. I would spend an extra grand for one but it is still out of my price range.
Sweet rig and didn't even know they still made PC's. Remember their ads in PCGamer and MAXIMUMPC when I was a teenager in the late 90's. Question.....did you confirm their benchmark scores they sent with the system? How'd they stack up if you did?
Yep we did and they were really dang close!
I have been buying their computers for about 20 years. I think I am on my fifth computer from them. I have never had problems with them until my current one...and they fixed it free of charge I think I just had to cover shipping. Luckily the issue I faced hit me at the 2 year 11 month mark and it was still covered by their 3 year warranty. When I got it back from them it was like brand new again the cleaned every speck of dust off the inside and outside of the machine. This machine is now toward the end of its life as I do not make any upgrades. I am currently pricing a new one as its age is finally catching up and the games do not look as good at they should or the videos I see on youtube. In the past 2 times I tried to save some money and switch to a different builder I tried Ibuypower and Alienware both machines I returned after having issues right out of the box.
How was Alienware? Thinking of buying one of their alienpods.
@@v4v819 Alienware is a no go, the chassis are beautiful but are bad with cooling.
Great video!! Seems like beast of computer. Only thing is the price. Other then that seems legit.
And what makes this the coolest are all the Robeytech logos!
Lol, it is nice but I will be honest the rest of the system is more impressive.
Sometimes you pay for support and quality of build/testing! I'd say it is absolutely worth it.
The whole build is impressive… …only problem is that somebody who wants that bottom rear intake fan for that GPU but also wants to add more cards to the desktop will have to get a little creative; trying to keep just one of these features impedes the other one. Fan included in stock, it’s suitable for gaming, but not streaming unless the feed is doubled or you use a Thunderbolt enclosure…
Yeah but external capture cards seem to be the more stable way to go, I am sure you are right there are folks who are for sure going to need expansions, just not sure how mainstream that is.
@@robeytech I've just looked up how to turn PCI-E slots into an 80mm fan and according to a US-only Newegg link, Sliger had this technology in the pocket, albeit for server rack configurations (look up Sliger IOCV 180A PCI slot case cooler). So Falcon might've been inspired to adapt this slot-to-fan method towards rear air intake for the GPU, but I think there might be a way to adapt this for current and future horizontal GPU configs in larger cases for not only additional air intake for the GPU, but also taking advantage of the empty vertical GPU slot for expansion from one or two of the remaining non-GPU slots on the motherboard.
Of course the GPU air intake addition will require sticking the Sliger fan gadget on the bottom horizontal slot covers under the GPU, but if somebody wants to add more capture cards to the system (without using Thunderbolt), they'll need to get one 90-degree PCI-E riser cable for each non-GPU slot and align the cards so they'll slot into each half of the vertical slot. Only problem for motherboards with PCI-E 5.0 GPU slot and only one PCI-E 4.0 x4 slot is that I don't know if there are or will ever be special riser cables that will split the slot from PCI-E 4.0 x4 to dual PCI-E 3.0 x4 slots. And I highly doubt that the Talon case will even be large enough to fit even one slot.
Maybe this needs further investigation?
Falcon Northwest has the best quality I have ever seen!
Sheeeesh. Talk about a Lambo of a PC. I really like that Robeytech case they made you. Wow.
Robey I'm not sure the 4090 would fit. ;)
My next PC build is a 13900k with an EVGA Classified Z690 motherboard, EVGA 360mm AIO, EVGA 1200W PSU, 2TB SSD for the Windows 11 OS, DDR5 RAM.
I have a 3090 already so I'll use that till I can get a 4090 Kingpin - which I want just because of the overclocking and built in AIO.
And yes - it's expensive, but I have the money.
Are you daft? There will be no evga cards going forward.
Well good luck on that 4090 Kingpin without EVGA lol
Really great video! I built my first PC this year & your channel helped a ton. This pre built is amazing but that price sheesh, but i get it. There a ton of companies with claims of performance & no info to back it up. The fact this company does that is awesome.
Only thing they didn't do is put a filter on that back 80 mm fan and no hard line cooling and they could have eliminated that back 80 intake fan with a water block on the GPU. Wouldn't make it run any better but just saying for 6500.
One of the very best pre-built PCs on the market. However I have to draw the line if I want to take out a second mortgage.
Premium stuff comes with premium price. Me personally, great performance with great warrantya and support. I will take that.
Sir this desktop is a work of art and it certainly is in the class of hypercars of computers. Loved every second of this video.
Glad you liked it!
It is certainly beautiful. However, the configurations that I just put together on their site were all well over $4000. Unfortunately, because of the pricing, I would classify this as a piece of art or a collector edition tier product. This rules me out as I just can't justify the money on a one of a kind item. Like you said Robey, eye of beholder and the company's choice to charge the premium for clearly a premium product. I still enjoyed the video and got a laugh when you opened up the back of the case.
Yep and I like it that they are honest about that. Definitely not for everyone
I don’t agree with the radiator blowing hot air inside from the front. They should have it at the top blowing air out.
The truth is Falcon Northwest knows they are top quality and don't expect to be selling majorly like Origin, HP or iBuyPower.
I've always wanted a falcon Northwest and never have I seen a RUclipsr do a review on their hardware. Great review all around.
It was an honor to get to review it.
I wanted to comment because I own a falcon Northwest talen I somewhat regret my purchase, but I am moving forward with a custom build on a custom made case because I could not find one anywhere on the market for my needs. It is the S 700 and it is no longer made by Salvo Studios but I got the last one and I’m having it modded for $1500 and to upgrade materials and some other things and this came at a good time because now I make $440 per day in oil and gas industry the one downfall of the falcon is video card support the cards are getting just too big and the difficulty in finding a founders card now or in the future will for the most part be impossible and water cooling I think will be in everyone’s future just because of the size that things are getting
Got me second guessing my OriginPC order so concerned about customer service
the main motherboard cable isn't a cable mod its an extension not impressed for the money you can go to corsair and get a proper kit and there are loads of places that will make a hand built cable in the colour you want
It is a CableMod extension custom measured
@@robeytech I know my friend I would cave replaced the hole thing. if a Modular PSU was used a lot of the time we can get replacement cables for the high end PSU
Never been a fan of prebuilts, but with this one I "get it".
If I was into buying tech as a pleasure hobby, and didn't want to tinker at all then I could see myself buying this if I was loaded.
Luckily I am a tinkerer ;)
lol, yep I get it.
BU - GAH - Ti ~ Tawp Gee
I'm not bothered by the price since Falcon Northwest is on par with other boutique vendors like Maingear and Digital Storm so I don't mind paying extra for build quality and stress testing but if a system integrator don't offer cases with front airflow and an air cooler on an i7 or a Ryzen 7 tier CPU then they are dead to me.
Doesn’t look like it breaths that well.
Looks are VERY deceiving. You can check out the live benchmarks on ruclips.net/user/robeytechlive and see it live for yourself.
1600 psu is too much
honestly dont see the hype with them, case is expensive sure but to not even get full custom cables and just extensions.....yeah idk about that at 6.5k and been marketed as premium.
The cooling, how quiet the system is and the coverage and tuning. I mean it’s like paying to bin your whole system with the best it can run.
they do go through and resleeve each cable individually which takes a lot of labor. one big thing for me is they sort through cpus and gpus and stress test them for you so you make sure you win the silicon lottery.
@@Riotdrone the one shown had cable extension so idk how much the upcharge would be for what you mentioned.
So a 2500$ premium.. oof.
Minimal to almost no customer support availability, high price, upsell, and limited customizability really kills the hype for this PC unfortunately.
Actually never mind, the points you brought up in the conclusion actually changed my opinion about not just the company but this pc too?
Yeah I was surprised by your statement
Bought mine a year and half ago. Customer support never takes more than 1 hour to answer.
Watched the entire review and i have to be honest, there is nothing super special about this case
Falcon northwest extremely over priced too
I'm building a similar system and it will cost less than half.
Yep. Like I said that’s easily possible
they advertise i9 but infact the config is set to i5 really? scammers
lol ddr5 are you for real? why not ddr6???
You really want to impress me as a reviewer? Go configure that same computer on other sites, and ask yourself why anyone would throw away money?
Why not do more on the inside of the pc and the guts? Instead you talk and talk and sweat into the camera