Which BRISKET method is BEST? | Foil Boat v Goldee's Secret v 190 & Hold

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  • Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
  • Which of these brisket methods is better? Let's find out.
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  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
    @SmokeTrailsBBQ  Год назад +2

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  • @ChudsBbq
    @ChudsBbq 2 года назад +287

    Foil Boat For the Win!!

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад +27

      Can't beat the bark that's for sure.

    • @jirbybbq
      @jirbybbq 2 года назад +47

      It’s a top 5-6 technique for sure!

    • @strickstrick2005
      @strickstrick2005 2 года назад +4

      It is the only way I do my brisket, I add some talow on top and melts as it cooks.

    • @jamesgalbraith5011
      @jamesgalbraith5011 2 года назад +6

      I sense some competitive vibes between Jirby and Bradley 😏

    • @soumynonareverse7807
      @soumynonareverse7807 2 года назад +9

      Just so Bradley will see this, what if you'd smoke it till 175, foilboat it till 190 and do an overnight rest afterwards?

  • @smokescouts
    @smokescouts 2 года назад +25

    I’ve done 8 briskets in the last 6 weeks testing all these methods, so this was perfect timing! I agree if you can cook it evenly by rotating it so the point doesn’t get mushy, you can have the best results cooking it to completely done. I really thought it was helpful how you described what’s over cooked vs. the prime rib taste.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад +16

      That's awesome! Yes I'm starting to form a really contrarion opinion about brisket. The lower its finished (below 190) the more I seem to like it. I'm sick of pot roasty bland brisket.

    • @doctordice5367
      @doctordice5367 2 года назад +2

      Are you cooking your brisket all the way to the 185 to 195 degrees before you wrap it and put it in the pan, or do you wrap it at some point during the cooking process, and then take it off and rewrap it and put it in the pan?

    • @joer1757
      @joer1757 2 года назад

      @@SmokeTrailsBBQ Collagen and fat render from 160 to 185, Water begins to steam (known as a slow simmer on a stove top) at 185. so theoretically, one could pull and wrap any meat at 185, and stick it in a 185 oven for hours to finish. I guess one could even overcook the meat if left long enough

    • @Scotforjesus
      @Scotforjesus Год назад +1

      How did you hold the foil boat brisket until noon the next day? It looks like you take it out of the foil boat directly to the cutting board. Did you rest it in the sous vide holding chamber in the boat? At what temp?

  • @RipitRon
    @RipitRon 2 года назад +3

    Changed up my Method a year or so ago that is a hybrid of these.
    1) Smoke at 180 for the first 2 hrs (Dirty Smoke)
    2) Smoke at 255 until brisket comes out of stall in a foil Boat
    3) Wrap in Butcher Paper with Wagyu Beef Tallow top and bottom Until right feel and temp (Usually this is 198-202 degrees)
    4) Pull from paper 9Save Dripping and let rest for 15 min then wrap in Foil and pour juice over brisket before closing and rest it at 160 degree's for 10 hrs
    Lots of steps yes but IMO you get the best of all of these and worth the effort

  • @braddixon3338
    @braddixon3338 2 года назад +6

    Well I'm sure Brad at ChudsBBQ loves you now! I like your honest evaluation and results summation for the three methods. For me, because I'm no pit master as I only cook one or two briskets a year, I'd go with the easiest. Your notes of the prime rib flavor and tenderness won me over.

  • @alfromtx245
    @alfromtx245 2 года назад +2

    A couple of weeks ago, I met a friend for lunch at Goldee's. I was very impressed. Probably in my top 2 for the Dallas/Fort Worth area. If you're even in the area, you should definitely check it out.
    About a week later, I tried the Goldee's method on a brisket. It was a select brisket, so I didn't push the temperature too high. Maybe around 225-240 for most of the time. It stalled out around 190 for maybe 3 hours, then finally began to increase. Both ends were tender when the flat reached 195. I'm not used to a brisket feeling crispy on the outside, but still having that "jiggle." But this one did. After the rest, it was amazing. It would melt in your mouth.
    I think having it set up to where the heat was flowing across the fat cap really helped. Anyway, thanks for the video!

  • @jonbuettner270
    @jonbuettner270 2 года назад +1

    I did kind of a hybrid version between the foil boat and your method. I foil boat wrapped it about 170° and pulled it at 190°. I let the brisket in the foil boat come down to 165°, put it in a pan, poured half my drippings (from the pan underneath) pit a shear of butchers paper on top of foil boat and crimped it back up (so top is butchers paper on top is crimped up with the foil on the bottom), and then poured rest of drippings on top of butchers paper. I then did the 1/2 cup water and double foiled wrapped and did 16 hr rest at 150° in my oven. It was awesome. I am loving your method. It takes the guess work out of the equation. Thank you for all your experiments. You are my go to guy on brisket for sure.

    • @jonbuettner270
      @jonbuettner270 2 года назад

      Best flat of the whole Packer I have done yet. Very moist.

    • @T2_Sug
      @T2_Sug 2 месяца назад

      I'm going to try your method this weekend lol

  • @chrishull8707
    @chrishull8707 2 года назад +2

    I learned so much in this video. Like how to evaluate my brisket, bark, fat, smoke ring, and meat tenderness. Thanks.

  • @FloridaRaider
    @FloridaRaider Год назад +1

    I appreciate how thorough your review is.

  • @projectcatkindness
    @projectcatkindness 2 года назад

    No words; I can simply appreciate your honesty.

  • @phillipgrenier5653
    @phillipgrenier5653 4 месяца назад

    I’ve been cooking brisket up in Minnesota for around 4 years. I’ve learned basically from this channel, mad scientist, and Chudd. I’ve taken a lot of trips to Texas so I know what high quality brisket tastes and feels like. Recently, I did the foil boat on a prime packer, pulled it at 195. Vacuumed sealed it packed with tallow. Then I put it in the Sous Vide for 16 hours. My mind was blown with the results! It tasted like the brisket I had at the very well known BBQ venues down south, but a little better even. I was afraid it was a fluke, but I have done 3 more since then, and it’s the same result.
    It’s awesome what you can learn from these guys. Especially if you live somewhere like I do where it’s hard to find decent BBQ.
    Sincerely,
    Phil from Minnesota

    • @usuallyfuente3890
      @usuallyfuente3890 3 месяца назад

      I never thought to hold it via sous vide, but that is a great idea. Would you mind sharing what temperature you hold it at?

  • @bbqdrew4301
    @bbqdrew4301 2 года назад +11

    Excellent video! We need a Part 2 for this, a sudden death between the Foil Boat and Foil Hold. Keep up the good work, been learning a lot from your channel.

  • @cahoonm
    @cahoonm Год назад +1

    I really respect your critique of your smoking methods. That is only way one can get batter. Growing up here in Texas in 1960's there was an old BBQ place called Linemans. We would drive up to it all dirt driveway. Get out and order by the pound at window. Go home and be in heaven. I don't know if it was because i was 112-4 then or what, but that was the best brisket i ever had. I remember it had a beer-onion taste. The bark was amazing. Anyway it was awesome

  • @Buford_T_Justice1
    @Buford_T_Justice1 2 года назад +10

    Your commitment to quality and complete and total devotion to BBQ nerdery is quite impressive and most commendable.
    I really enjoy your videos.

  • @ryanchernochan9366
    @ryanchernochan9366 2 года назад +1

    I knew you were gonna do this video based on your past video explaining the over night hold. Was waiting for this! Thanks

  • @brandonkrupala4902
    @brandonkrupala4902 2 года назад +6

    This is a fantastic video. I wonder if you took the foil boat brisket off at 190 then started your 12 hr heated rest if that would get you the more ideal tenderness.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад +4

      That's what I'm thinking. If there's a way to get the bark of the foil boat but pull it earlier in temp and holding. Worth trying

  • @Jyes12345
    @Jyes12345 22 дня назад

    I'm late on this but, i did a hybrid on this today, smoked for hours on on end, then wrapped in foil brought it up to 185, cut off the top of the foil, made it into a boat to get the steam out, finished it until 200 and rested for another couple hours.

  • @warrior8783
    @warrior8783 2 года назад +1

    I’ve been eating/bbqing brisket for a LONG time and I just miss the days when I would go to the store and would get fajitas and brisket at an affordable price before they became so popular - hi from Texas.

  • @DavidWilson-vq7fl
    @DavidWilson-vq7fl 2 года назад +3

    I enjoyed the video! Kudos to you for trying new methods and grading them fairly.

  • @g-keys7078
    @g-keys7078 2 года назад +6

    After watching your 190 & hold video and mad scientist’s recent shootout video, I’ve decided to try a hybrid of the foil boat and 190 & hold methods. The reason being I think the foil boat will help protect the edges and pulling it off at 190 will avoid pot roast territory. I’ll let you know how it turns out!

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад +2

      Good idea. I think that could work well.

    • @amiradib1007
      @amiradib1007 2 года назад +4

      I literally did this last weekend. I boated it around 160, moved it to the oven until 191, then foil wrapped at 150 for 9 hours. Came out excellent.

    • @g-keys7078
      @g-keys7078 2 года назад

      @@amiradib1007 awesome that’s great to hear!

    • @jessegriffith6401
      @jessegriffith6401 Год назад

      Exactly what I'm doing, pulling 190-195 to cool and then rest in the boat.

  • @danblacksher6289
    @danblacksher6289 2 года назад +9

    You just can’t beat the foil boat method for the bark. Just incredible results for me.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад +5

      First time trying it on an offset and I was impressed. Things I noticed are that it cooked slower in terms of temp but got more tender faster in the flat anyway, probably from braising in its own juices.

  • @bretromberg9065
    @bretromberg9065 9 месяцев назад +1

    BEST VIDEO EVER .............
    There is no way possible to sum it up better then this 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @ronknight779
    @ronknight779 Год назад +1

    Nice comparison of the three different methods

  • @latamusx
    @latamusx 2 года назад +2

    Ok Steve, I don't know if you will see this, but thanks for introducing me to this hold method. I watched your video on it a few weeks ago, and in that time I have gone to work with it. After watching the ghee video where you brother liked the hold brisket, but thought it was dry, I wanted to truly make this a perfect method for all. I believe I have done it. Mixing the hold method with my juicy juicy method. Tonight my friend, my family ate what I can only describe as the perfect brisket. I would like to discuss it with you let you test it and see what you think. Let me know best way to contact you if you are interested. Thanks again for all your videos. Keep up the great work. 👍

    • @Ty-uz5pd
      @Ty-uz5pd 2 года назад

      You have to let us know what the double juicy method is

  • @nates9321
    @nates9321 2 года назад +2

    Great, thorough video as expected. Now I need the hookup on the 10 year special reserve Crown Royal that's only available in Canada. Grabbed some when I went to London, Ontario, just didn't grab enough!

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад

      Haha! Yea it's pretty good. I like the northern harvest edition too

  • @canadian_coffe_guy4690
    @canadian_coffe_guy4690 2 года назад +1

    I been smoking on a Kamado joe the last few months and also really appreciate the foil boat method. I ramp up my temps at the end of the cook to help render the fat cap nicely. Great video!

    • @homevalueglass3809
      @homevalueglass3809 Год назад

      Same, I jack it up to 300 last couple hrs and pull it at 195 or so then rest it.

  • @s0opr0oud
    @s0opr0oud 2 года назад +2

    I really struggle with the flat with my pellet grill, I always wonder if I shouldn't cut the brisket in half and cook them separately and use the flat for a sandwich instead. The Canadian cold seems to not help my fire pit to stay that warm for a perfect cook. Anyway!! I like the idea of a beginner brisket thanks for the video

    • @teamturner3933
      @teamturner3933 Год назад

      There’s really no downside to separating the point and the flat. Like you said it will help you cook each one to the correct doneness. If you do that you might finally end up with a brisket that has a flat cooked to perfection. I’d say give it a go! There’s also videos out there where folks have done this as well. Good luck!

  • @carltonmisquith
    @carltonmisquith Год назад

    Thank you so much for doing this . Always wondered but never had the time .

    • @alexvids9232
      @alexvids9232 9 месяцев назад +1

      Plus a big investment

  • @Bouje411
    @Bouje411 2 года назад +1

    I remember over at mad scientist he did a “hybrid” foil boat where he wrapped in butcher paper in a foil boat. Need to go back and watch. Maybe that’s a “happy medium” between the great flavor with foil boat and tenderness of the 190 and hold.

  • @briankronberg
    @briankronberg 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm going to do a sous vide hold. Cooking a brisket the day before Thanksgiving all day. When done, I will seal it up and put it in the water bath. I've not done this before and am totally not sure if I will do 140F or 150F. It will be in the bath for 16 hours. Suggestions? I also thought I could drop from 150F to 140F after 12 hours.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 месяца назад

      I like your idea of doing 150 overnight then dropping to 140 to hold it until you serve.

  • @jheasley2
    @jheasley2 2 года назад +3

    For a pellet smoker, do you go to 190 on the flat or the point? I cook it fat side down on the pellet grill, but the difference between the flat and the point can be as much as 15 to 20 degrees. I always want to pull it when the flat his 190 but then the point isn’t up to temp. Thoughts? Thanks!

  • @Draft2win
    @Draft2win 2 года назад +4

    My question. What do you do with all the briskets you cook? Appreciate the channel and knowledge. Love the testing and trials. And science behind it. Keep up the awesome experiments.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад +2

      Neighbors, family etc. I hang with friends every other wed and feed them bbq. Thanks!

    • @Draft2win
      @Draft2win 2 года назад +2

      @@SmokeTrailsBBQ Damn. I’d love to be your neighbor. I cook my briskets to about 165ish. Paper rap them to 203ish. Vacuum seal them. And sou vide them at 165 for 12 to 15 hours. Absolutely amazing. Love to see your take on that.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад +1

      @@Draft2win I've done something similar. Really amazing results. The bark isn't stellar though

    • @Draft2win
      @Draft2win 2 года назад +1

      @@SmokeTrailsBBQ No. not the crunchy crusty bark. But flavor and tenderness. Spot on. And the tallow that forms. Pour that on top. No one seems to mind the crunchy crust. But love your work and would love to do a completion beside you if your ever in NC.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад

      @@Draft2win maybe one day!

  • @DouglasWise-h3h
    @DouglasWise-h3h Год назад +2

    I love this video but wish you would have used a larger smoker that would have allowed all three briskets to cook the same. Because of that, there were differences in the cooks that can't be fairly compared.

  • @AEAYOSHTON
    @AEAYOSHTON Год назад

    What a thorough experiment, very nice work

  • @hbrown9345
    @hbrown9345 2 года назад +2

    Enjoyed the watching the 3 methods. I may have missed it, but I think another variable is whether these briskets were choice or prime. I believe these variables impact which method works best. thanks

  • @SmokeNEmbersBBQ
    @SmokeNEmbersBBQ 6 месяцев назад +1

    @smoketrailsbbq loved this video. Ive been a fan of the foil boat because of the crunch bark. I need to get a long rest device soon.

  • @SmokedReb
    @SmokedReb 2 года назад +2

    Great approach to this video. You definitely made me want to cook up a brisket.

  • @CoD_Maj3st1k
    @CoD_Maj3st1k 2 года назад +1

    Good on Goldees bbq and Chuds to share their process to the community. We all want to get better. Find newer & better methods to produce better bbq. It will push others to get better. It also brings the expectation bar up in texas bbq. All goods things.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  Год назад +1

      Yea! I love when people share because it levels the playing field and raises everyone's game.

  • @07boboboy
    @07boboboy Год назад +1

    I tried the foil boat method and the bottom half was too pot roasty. I then tried the 190 wrap and hold and that one came out awesome. Granted it was a wagyu brisket so I don't know if that was the reason or not. Want to try the 190 again with a prime and see how it turns out

  • @SooooWhatsNext
    @SooooWhatsNext 2 года назад

    I use the Foil Boat method and I get great feedback every time. Chud's Foil Boat method is a winner IMHO.

  • @dannytrieu6104
    @dannytrieu6104 2 года назад +1

    I just tried foil and hold last weekend

  • @jessehernandez52
    @jessehernandez52 3 месяца назад +1

    I have a vevor food warmer i just bought.
    My question is it has a tray for water for humidity. Should i use that and put water to hold a brisket for 18hrs or no???
    Thank you for the info in advance 😊

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  3 месяца назад +1

      Yes. Water pans help alot with holding steady temps

    • @jessehernandez52
      @jessehernandez52 3 месяца назад

      @SmokeTrailsBBQ thank you sr!

  • @dennisbower
    @dennisbower 2 года назад +3

    I cooked my first brisket ever a couple weeks ago on my OKJ Highland and used the foil boat. It was delicious, with the carmel color fat, but almost too fall apart - one step away from shredded beef. I think I’ll try your wrap and hold next, looks more forgiving. Thanks for a great video!

    • @wardad5628
      @wardad5628 2 года назад +1

      If you overcook they tend to fall apart.

  • @morselandcrumbs5551
    @morselandcrumbs5551 2 года назад +2

    Awesome video. I do the butcher paper with smoked wagyu tallow method...super satisfying

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад

      I've never tried smoking tallow. Great idea

    • @morselandcrumbs5551
      @morselandcrumbs5551 2 года назад

      @@SmokeTrailsBBQ dude the flavor is too amazing. I vacuum sealed it and froze it. My entire freezer smells like incredible smoked bbq!

    • @WHSuperman2005
      @WHSuperman2005 2 года назад +1

      @@SmokeTrailsBBQ Jeremy Yoder preaches it.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад

      @@WHSuperman2005 I'll go check out his videos on it

    • @chipsammich2078
      @chipsammich2078 2 года назад

      Best I've ever had was with Wagyu tallow

  • @lamarwilliams185
    @lamarwilliams185 2 года назад

    I was just watching “ are you making these 100 Brisket mistakes”. I had an idea earlier for myself to start a RUclips channel. You did exactly what I thought of in that video. It is to show people how to use each type of cooker and talk about the strength and weaknesses of each while cooking. I will give you until the end of the year to start making videos. I only know how to maintain a in ground pit and a slow N Sear. Never used a vertical smoker or stick burner. I also know temperature inside out and cooker thickness along with space plays a part. You have more toys than me and experience. That’s why I think it would be better if you do it. I’m going to copy this and put it on Jeremy, Guda, harry, baby back maniac channels and see if they make it happen.

  • @anthonydicianni3509
    @anthonydicianni3509 3 месяца назад +1

    Now is it better to separate the point from the flat before smoking? This allows crust to be on more surface area. All things BBQ does this and I know Aaron Franklin has talked about why it would make sense.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  3 месяца назад

      Keeping it whole results in a juicier brisket. Separating it exposes more surface area to evaporation.

  • @mattroberts7199
    @mattroberts7199 Год назад +1

    What if you used the same paper and foil hold but pulled higher than 190 to get better bark? Maybe pull at 195 or even 200? And perhaps hold for less time

  • @HOMECOOKLONG
    @HOMECOOKLONG 6 месяцев назад +1

    I mix the Goldees with the 190 long hold method, never fail me, i get PERFECT brisket everytime.
    No wrap
    No sprtiz
    pull at 187-190, never over 190.
    Then rest open on the counter to 165
    wrap with tallow in foil and hold at 150f for 12-20 hours, depends on serving time.
    Very simple, very straight foward, all my brisket cook now is open the lid 3 times only. at 6h roate, at 187 check if done, if not then at 190 PULL time. The easiest smoke nowdays

  • @OffsetRookie
    @OffsetRookie 2 года назад +1

    Well done! I've definitely enjoyed the foil boat method as well recently.

  • @mackducky
    @mackducky 2 года назад

    I do foil boat with paper, but, since I'm not able to rest for long periods of time, I do what you say in other video. As soon my brisket is probe tender, it goes directly to the fridge, the next day gets reheated low and slow.

  • @robhrovatin1927
    @robhrovatin1927 2 года назад +2

    How did you make your sous vide freezer? I have an old freezer I would love to try to do that

    • @dank9288639
      @dank9288639 2 года назад

      it's easier and cheaper to get a large cooler and turn it into a sous vide

  • @vepristhorn8278
    @vepristhorn8278 4 месяца назад

    What kind of pot roast are you eating that they are grainy or sandy?

  • @georgevu200
    @georgevu200 2 года назад

    Best look briskets! Thank you.

  • @johndeluca1614
    @johndeluca1614 Год назад +1

    Great video. I just found your channel. I've been looking for a better way (than my oven on lowest 170 setting, or a cooler) to rest briskets a long time, say 6 to 8 hours. The oven seems too hot, and the cooler doesn't hold temp long enough. I'm intrigued by the sous vide "holding chest". Is that something you fabricated or is it available from Anova?

  • @Jason315NY
    @Jason315NY Год назад +1

    Have you tried say 200 n hold in wrapped tallow paper in aluminum foil?….if so how did it come out? Any preference?

  • @spinedoc893
    @spinedoc893 Год назад

    I do a hybrid version where I put it directory on the smoker until the bark is where I want it then I wrap it completely in foil for a few hrs then open the foil like the boat until its ready to rest. I've never done this but i know people who just smoke uncovered til the bark is done then wrap til its ready to rest. When you take it off let it sit on the counter with the foil open for 20-30 min (til it stops steaming) then put in your cooler or oven to hold.

  • @BehindtheGarageBBQ
    @BehindtheGarageBBQ 2 года назад

    Great comparison cook, that foil boat is definitely a game changer , thanks for sharing brother!👍🍻😁

  • @FaithMerino1
    @FaithMerino1 Год назад

    I think you should have consider the look of the slice cross section into your appearance scale. it was great video! Thank you

  • @fromobile1
    @fromobile1 2 года назад +1

    Great video! What’s that electric smoker you use to rest? I’ve been looking for one that goes that low… bass pro shop brand electric smoker?

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад

      It's a masterbuilt 30 inch. Called the sportsman elite at bass pro

  • @cj2282es
    @cj2282es 2 года назад +1

    Great video Steve! Quick question, how did you hold the foil boat brisket? Did you re-wrap it in butcher paper with tallow (I've seen Bradley do that on the Chudd's channel) or did you just put it in the warmer as is boated with aluminum foil (which I've also seen Bradley do)? Many thanks for all your testing and advice!!

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Chad! It went straight in the warmer (an electric smoker) at 150 uncovered. Still in the boat

  • @marco785
    @marco785 2 года назад

    If I cook thru the stall an hits 195 but not poke tinder. Should I pull wrap an let sit or continue cooking until tender?

  • @rassanhines8611
    @rassanhines8611 2 года назад +2

    What did you use as meat? Prime grade? creekstone farms prime? choice? etc

  • @landolfr
    @landolfr 2 года назад +1

    Here’s a question from someone smoking on a drum. Could I use the foil boat method if I plan to smoke fat down (toward water pans) for most of the cook, then flip it over to fat up after adding it to the foil to render the fat further? Seems like a may be able to achieve a similar result using the vastly different cooker.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад +1

      Yes that would mess up the bark a bit from being in contact with the grates but it would work

    • @landolfr
      @landolfr 2 года назад

      @@SmokeTrailsBBQ Ahhh yes good point, maybe the goldee method of a foil hold would be a better choice for my setup so that the bark doesn’t get effed up and I still get the max fat rendering. Love the channel and thanks for the reply!

  • @bradrobbery788
    @bradrobbery788 2 года назад

    learning heaps off this channel thanks!

  • @BigAlsBBQ
    @BigAlsBBQ 2 года назад +1

    I really enjoyed this video. The level of detail and honesty (regarding not getting the cook quite right) speaks volume about you as a creator and someone who is seeking to help other learn 🫡. Clearly the next video is the Foil Boat vs the Goldee (cooked perfectly). The only thing I missed (apologies if you did say it) was at what temp were you running your smoker & did you adjust it during the cook or run it constaint?

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад +1

      225 until it sweats then 275-290. Thanks man! Yes will need to do some more experiments.

  • @barnold62
    @barnold62 10 месяцев назад +1

    Been to Goldees. Those Pitmasters have it down! They smoke about 50 briskets a day and they are all consistent and unbelievable. Also Goldees said the foil boat method they couldn't stack them that way while resting....they are a restaurant. Bottom line there is more than one method to get the same results.

  • @TangDominates
    @TangDominates 2 года назад +1

    Do you plan to do a video on your holding device? I was planning on buying a cheap electric smoker to use as a holding oven but curious what you’re using.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад +1

      The electric smoker is the way to go unless you need a really high capacity holding device for cheap

    • @TangDominates
      @TangDominates 2 года назад

      @@SmokeTrailsBBQ thanks for the reply!

  • @johnnyblackerby7831
    @johnnyblackerby7831 Год назад +2

    Looks like I'm trying the foil boat this weekend😅

  • @tclaw1406
    @tclaw1406 2 года назад +1

    I don’t over analyze any brisket I cook. I’ve cooked them on a pellet grill, offset smoker, Akorn grill, and more lately an Oklahoma Joes Bronco. I’m going with the Bronco or OKJ Highland!!

    • @gregwilliams2066
      @gregwilliams2066 2 года назад

      Do you have a favorite? My pellet doesnt give me much smokiness even at low temps and tube. My egg gives decent smoke. Havent tried offset. Kinda would like gravity smoker

  • @sennapunjabi1504
    @sennapunjabi1504 Год назад

    Nice video. Little confused though. Why did the foil boat have more smokiness than Goldees? Weren't they in for the same amount of time in smoker? Also how did you keep the foil boat one from midnight till noon the next day where you ate it? Thank you

  • @HungryFreelancer
    @HungryFreelancer 2 года назад +1

    Great video? Does fat continue to render / turn yellow/caramel during the long heated overnight rest?

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад

      Good question. I have no idea. Something to test out but my gut feeling is that it needs the higher temps to get like that.

  • @allanminter4191
    @allanminter4191 2 года назад

    Great video!! Why not try your 190 hold method but instead of wrapping..foil boat and hold in your oven in the foil boat? Perhaps it will carry the cook over while still leaving the integrity of the bark? Or perhaps 195 since you're not covering the whole brisket

  • @nikolovh1
    @nikolovh1 2 года назад +1

    When you put in foil boat are you doing fat cap up or down into the foil?

  • @dylanconrad6930
    @dylanconrad6930 2 года назад +1

    If you’re going for the sous vide method why not just vacuum seal the brisket in the tallow wrapped paper and submerge the meat? You’d be ensuring the temp stays consistent and could easily add more water to ensure you don’t have to keep replenishing as the water turns to steam

    • @tonyurquhart7130
      @tonyurquhart7130 Год назад

      I was thinking the same. I just tried it. Chud’s had a recent vid. I followed him doing foil boat to 205 and then rest for 45 mins and vacuum seal and sous vide bath at 165 for 12 hours. The end result bark was still crispy. It was a tad overdone. Next time I will pull early at 190ish.

  • @KurtStoll
    @KurtStoll Год назад +2

    Has anyone tried using a store-bought foil pan instead of a custom-shaped foil boat for the foil-boat method? If so, how did it turn out?

    • @dank9288639
      @dank9288639 5 месяцев назад

      that's what I'm trying to find out too lol

  • @Bouje411
    @Bouje411 2 года назад

    I wonder also if for the foil rested methods, particularly for the method when you take it off early, if maybe a nice torching at the end might be worth a try to see if it helps the bark.

  • @johngamble667
    @johngamble667 Год назад +1

    Where did you buy the souse vide holding device? Or how did you make it and how does it work?

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  Год назад

      I briefly explained it in my texas brisket secret video last year and the full tutorial on how to make one is on my patreon.

  • @mistahmj1275
    @mistahmj1275 2 года назад +1

    Was the foil boat brisket covered during the overnight hold? What internal temp did you let it drop to before u started the rest period?

  • @Dirtrider300
    @Dirtrider300 2 года назад

    What do you do with all that cooked brisket? Hope it doesnt go to waste

  • @bgladish12
    @bgladish12 2 года назад +1

    How did you hold the boat brisket? And what temp did you rest them to before going in holding cabinet. Thank you

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад

      The boat and foil wrapped ones went down go 140 then held at 140

    • @bgladish12
      @bgladish12 2 года назад

      @@SmokeTrailsBBQ thank you for the reply.. do you not rest your method before going into holding cabinet?

  • @SmokingDadBBQ
    @SmokingDadBBQ 2 года назад +2

    Great head to head

  • @Waisonian
    @Waisonian 2 года назад

    Redo redo! I suppose ideally, you'd have three of the same smokers to do thus but... That just sounds fiscally unreasonable! Great video!

  • @scottwright2895
    @scottwright2895 Год назад +1

    Im building a holding chest , like yours do i need to have a secondary temperature gauge for as the water with the sous vide will be a different temp to the meat sitting above it ? do you have a vid which explains how to make this please ? thanks so much

  • @dank9288639
    @dank9288639 2 года назад +1

    so how long do you rest it at 140?

  • @joer1757
    @joer1757 Год назад +1

    Would the same 190 and hold method work for pork shoulder? Or would it be better to bring to at least 195.? Thoughts?

  • @markbarba625
    @markbarba625 2 года назад

    Awesome video. Also, anyone else get nervous over the right cut brisket looking like it would tip over and fall? 😆

  • @joeboeke4566
    @joeboeke4566 Год назад

    What is a lump of taro? I’m a newbie and 2 of 3 cooks were pot roast. The first went off at 190-195 due to lack of time and finished in oven at 300 for 45 min and rested an hour. It was better than the others 203 pull rest 2 hours butcher paper (pot roast)

    • @2005Pilot
      @2005Pilot 7 месяцев назад

      Believe he said a lump of tallow which is what Goldee’s does

  • @billcole1124
    @billcole1124 2 года назад

    I appreciate your honesty in your journey to perfecting your brisket cooking method. I almost wonder if you combined some of these methods into one. What if you cooked the brisket to around 175 internal temp for great bark formation, then foil boat it until it hits 190-195 internal temp for the extra smoke and fat render, then place the brisket in tallow soaked butcher paper with your 1/2 cup of water method at 150 degrees for 10-12 hours?

    • @billcole1124
      @billcole1124 2 года назад +1

      FYI - I tried this over the weekend and had incredible success with a basic USDA Choice brisket. I definitely recommend you try this!

    • @dank9288639
      @dank9288639 2 года назад

      @@billcole1124 Thanks man!

  • @crypkripke5206
    @crypkripke5206 2 года назад

    I would like to see you try rendering the 190 degree fat cap a bit extra once it is taken off the grill. Perhaps a broiler for a couple of minutes or a searzal or grill gun at a distance would do the trick? I think you could get that caramel color without overcooking it.

  • @joecapelli6454
    @joecapelli6454 2 года назад +2

    I recently cooked a 20 lb. WAGU Black Brisket for 10 hours at 250 degrees in a Big Green Egg XL. I used a Drip pan with a 50/50 mixture of Apple Cider Vinegar and Water. I spritzed it every hour, with the same 50/50 mixture.
    I used Oak & Hickory Large Lump Charcoal, with Mesquite for smoke. I took the brisket out of the Egg at 205 degrees and rested it until the internal temp dropped to 170. I wrapped the brisket in Butcher paper with WAGU Beef Tallow, and placed it on a wire rack inside a deep aluminum pan. I added some 50/50 mixture to the pan and sealed it with aluminum foil. Then I placed the pan containing the brisket in an oven at 160 degrees for 12 hours. So from start to finish, this process was about 27 hours. The brisket turned out incredible. Both the Flat and the Point were super tender and juicy, and everyone that normally eats what I barbeque, loved it, and I thought it was the best brisket I ever ate.

    • @jessegriffith6401
      @jessegriffith6401 Год назад

      Have done other waygu briskets before? I feel like the quality of the meat was the true winner! Not that you're cook wasn't good too...

  • @igotJesus88
    @igotJesus88 2 года назад +1

    Good video, and a lot to think about. Two things. With brisket cooked on a pellet smoker do you prefer fat cap up or down? I cooked a brisket the other day with the fat cap down. When it hit 170 I foil boated it. The bark ended up being really tough. I couldn’t cut it easily. I did foil boat it with the fat down also. No spritz. I cooked it at 225. Any thoughts? Maybe my knife was dull.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад

      Pellet grills are tough. You might have been getting alot of radiant heat from the burn pot. I go fat up in a pellet grill but if there was a way to go fat down and not mess the bark up/get grill marks etc (which there is not) I would likely go fat down.

    • @JWFas
      @JWFas 2 года назад +1

      Did you flip the brisket to fat side up when you boated it?

    • @duanehenicke6602
      @duanehenicke6602 2 года назад

      Took me yrs and many briskets to get a good one from pellet grill. You can not smoke like you would a offset. Think of it as direct grilling. Turn and flip them a few times through out the cook. A good mop after the seasoning has set works well. And to get that smoke flavor, do not wrap them until done and ready to rest. If you want to be old school Texas brisket cook, separate the point from the flat before slicing. None of these "pitmasters" will show you how to properly slice a brisket. Sad it's became a lost art.

    • @igotJesus88
      @igotJesus88 2 года назад

      @@JWFas I did not. That might be a good idea though.

    • @igotJesus88
      @igotJesus88 2 года назад

      @@duanehenicke6602 technically I’m smoking on a Masterbuilt gravity so I get plenty of smoke flavor. Almost offset. But it works just like a pellet grill where all the heat comes from the bottom.

  • @rpmautoreviews9249
    @rpmautoreviews9249 2 года назад

    so foil boat method, theres no resting for hours ? just cook it until 203 & let rest on counter & eat ? and was foil boat fat down or up ?

  • @mikewebb279
    @mikewebb279 Год назад +1

    What is the brand name of the holding oven (chest) you used in this video

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  Год назад

      General overview of how to make it: ruclips.net/video/-6ocRbEU7io/видео.html
      Detailed Tutorial video on Patreon: www.patreon.com/smoketrailsbbq

  • @DrMarvo
    @DrMarvo 9 месяцев назад +1

    What is that holding oven called? I see it's from Bass Pro Shop. I don't seebit on their website.

  • @magic49r
    @magic49r 2 года назад +1

    How about separating the point and the flat 1st? I do it all the time.

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад +1

      Not a huge fan. I like cooking it whole.

  • @christmaschris487
    @christmaschris487 7 месяцев назад

    what do you use for ur holding device?

  • @Kberrysal
    @Kberrysal 2 года назад +1

    Can you do the 190 and hold. Do it sous vide at 150 for the 12 hours

    • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
      @SmokeTrailsBBQ  2 года назад +1

      Yes. The bark will suffer slightly but it will be good.

  • @thomaslahr9022
    @thomaslahr9022 2 года назад

    Do you ever trim the fat cap off the top of the point so you can get seasoning onto the meat?

  • @304z28
    @304z28 2 года назад

    What was the bass pro cabinet you are holding in? I’m looking for a holding unit. Thanks in advance. God bless from WV

  • @christinejchannel
    @christinejchannel 2 года назад

    Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy and happy