Les Ambassadeurs Short Deck Private Game Episode 2 - Triton Poker London 2019
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- 🔱 The Short Deck Cash Game action from Triton London 2019 continues. Table features Paul Phua, Jason Koon, Mikita Badziakouski, Tan Xuan, Wang Jung, and Liu Ming Zhong.
Commentary by the ever-incredible Lex Veldhuis.
📅 Event: Triton London 2019
📌 Location: Les Ambassadeurs Club. London, England
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Lost a lot of respect for Tan here. Liu Ming was using dirty tactics and Tan was thanking him for it after. Bad form from both players. Mikita is a good player, he didn’t take excessive time in the hand. Sad to see this mild form of collusion happening in such high profile games. It shouldn’t be acceptable to any player. All players should want to win based on their own ability. Not as a result of organised attacks on a single player in a live hand. Very disappointed with that.
Mikita is not a kid anymore, if he feels something is wrong he shouldnt be playing with them. The Chinese businessman generally dont like people tanking and thats fine, we have seen this happening before in other games (mikita should expect that). They are already rich, i can understand why they dont want to waste too much time on hands, they just want to degen in their own way. This makes triton cash games way more watchable than the Tank festivals from the high roller tournaments. If u want to study poker, buy a solver, seeing this with lex commentaries wont improve ur game at all.
@@AeroxBoaNoiteLenin Whether or not Mikita can handle it is of no consequence - an action like that at the table is widely considered angle-shooting and the admittance of collusion that came after would result in a sanction at any reputable event (like the WSOP). The preferences of businessmen further have no effect on the interpretation of such an action by the rules of any reputable organization. To relax table etiquette rules for entertainment value would be highly unethical, and if Triton wants to host big events outside the realm of VIP players, they’re going to have to show more commitment to upholding standard rules.
Rude behaviour from the businessmen. Sure they want to have more quick action game, thats ok, the pros have to adjust their games to keep the fishes happy. But, this behaviour was not ok anyway, it was agressive and it was spoken in a Language he couldnt understand. Pretty arrogant these guys, Wang and Liu. Phua is rich as well but can still behave at the table.
i mean i get that they want to play fast but he did it on purpose to pressure him and they kinda teamed up on him and he even thanked him for that after, but yeah he prob would have still called if he took more time
I love watching Tan playing. Still these actions make me sick. That's dirty indeed. It's doesn't matter how Mikita takes it. Tan complaining before Liu standing up makes it even worse. He takes longer time thinking for much smaller pot a few hands ago and acts like a big boss who doesn't care about these money and just wants having fun and playing fast. That's not cool at all. Liu and Tan are not big bosses at this table, Mikita who gets a little panic for wasting these jerks' time is the true gentleman here. And I'm fine with player stars rushing other players, Tony G' blowup with Robl for example. G' complaining is fair because Robl do take too much on that Big Game show, and G never takes that long in any game I watched.
I’m a man of simple tastes, a good cheeseburger, a nice wine, and a new episode of Triton poker are all I need to make me happy
Damn, you need too much
yikes, that collusion between tan xuan and liu ming tho :/
Putting pressure on Mikita while still in the hand was way out of line. Liu Ming Zhong was tanking a few hands earlier as well and made some bad folds. Liu Ming Zhong should have some respect for the best player at the table. The only reason Mikita didn't stand up and said anything is because he wants to keep his victims happy while ripping them on the longterm.
Exactly.
very true but almost think Zhong knows he is a fish as well but in the end as a life long poker player on a casual level that did annoy me a little.
Yeah seemed way out of line.
mikita should have just said sorry and stood up.
Bro this game literally only runs because of ming zhong and jun... lol, they are mafia bosses you expect them to show respect?
They're bullying Makita like hell. All the other players were taking much more time than him.
Because he’s the best player in the game and they want him off his game
@@MrStuartBowman best player at the table is Tan Xuan, not Mikita. They are bullying him because he is a nit. Same reason why Tony G loves to bully him. Have you ever seen someone bullying Phil Ivey? He had been crushing all games for 15 years...
He takes soooo long every hand, thats why they are frustrated, lol
Bobby Ace LOL. Tan is a good short deck player but he isn’t the best. Fish isn’t tight what so ever lol. Yeah and look what happened to Ivey.
After 1 minute Liu Ming Zhong gets angry for taking too long when Liu took twice as long with 97 hand worth half as much. Dude has some issues.
Lol jason to mikita after getting bullied is just like “dont worry youre getting that shit back”
I think they were too harsh on Mikita, he did not take that much in the AQ x AK spot.
Dendelin007 It’s clear that they normally play faster and higher. Bad call by Mikita BTW..
@@theisnielsen6959 Thank you for the well educated and informative analysis. Please teach me how to play Short Deck GTO with such high ante and the given dynamics /s .
Fuck yeah that was out of order, it was only a couple hands before where old mate took longer against phua when he had open ender for less money too what a dick
Mikita should have considered folding but yeah It's hard to fold premium hands but these corona mafia didn't allow him to think much. Also in the vid they were talking to play 500k not sure why tan kept more than that on table.
That's putting it lightly
The action from liu ming guy during the hand of mikita is just disgusting
true. like the virus strategy with the WHO.
I woulda told him sit the f down
@@Jfeldman1 nah, u wouldnt. u dont have the balls for that
Yeah... Especially when you read the subtitles, really shows you that they're pretty much playing together against Mikita
This is the first Triton game that has given me a bad feeling. Feels like there are several real gangsters at the table. Even more than normal. But they are behaving like it. Really sucks to watch. But you lay down with dogs...
I agree, i have LOVED triton, this episode left me with a bad taste. Do wonder dwan looks so sullen these days if this is what he has to put up with to play with them nonstop
real gangster? with those sunglasses?
100 percent there are a few connected people in these games. You cant find anything about them online, the way fish apologises to him as well..
Agree for 100%.. This is the Maffia! I hate this episode and Joe Ingram should pay attention to this
@@MrStuartBowman He's apologizing to him because he wants to stay in the game. He's a pro and none of the guys that are there to satisfy their degen cravings want him there. I don't know how many fish there are at this table, but Wang Jun barely understands how to play poker. Liu Ming got up and told Mikita "get up, get up, you've played for three hours already"
Damn that hand with fish was so dirty , pressured him into a call then said ‘pretended to leave to make him call’ then tan replies ‘you’re good to me’ wow that’s so dirty. Lost a lot of respect for tan. I don’t think we will be seeing subtitles next episode.
I think that's just table talk, given Liu Ming doesn't know Tan or Mikita's hand, there is no way he would know if the call is good for which player. Besides, pressuring someone on hand does not result on a more likely call, it could be more likely fold as well. I believe Liu was just frustrated as he's been losing, and wants to get to the next hand quicker so he can win it back (which he did with AJ vs AQ)
yes! no ethics at all. what's wrong with these china people? they should not rule the world. now i understand why trump treats them in a bad manner. he was ONTO THEM!
kajls yeah but liu Ming still has to act in the hand so he should not say a word. It’s an obvious angle. He goes to leave to pressure fish into making a call quickly without really thinking. Fish didn’t want one of the spots to leave.
It's really disheartening to see Tan behave that way. Usually he's quite respectful, at least from what I've seen. I'm gonna chalk it up to him trying to impress his buddies. Doesn't excuse it though.
I think it was very very rough how they bullied makita, and rushed a very important decision when tan xuan took way longer on most decisions.
Fully agree with this! This was really disgusting to watch this shit
Love the subtitles, but that allowed us to know that these guys were bullying Mikita to play fast in a big pot. He's a pro, not a billionaire.
Absolutely disrespectful by pressuring someone to move faster in such big pots. It’s not fun to watch this at all
That's a typical rich Chinese thing
They mostly have absolute no respect and behavior
BRING BACK SHORT DECK ONLINE
By Seeing all these comments I'm sure that Triton aren't going to put subtitles now onwards 😂
Lex is such a badass commentator, very insightful but knows how not to make it boring.
TRITON IS THE MAFFIA OF POKER!!
Hopes Mikita comes back later episode and beat all of them
Mikita is normally so collected with his emotions, but you can see the angst from the pressure play during a million dollar pot. Then at showdown, you see a sort of deeper sadness ripped on his face. Probably not as much for the money, but more the hard feeling of the pressure play from guy to the left in a million dollar pot.
When in China, I guess you have to play along... you can tell they give Tom a bit more slack. Probably because Mikita is better and makes so few mistakes
Asa Steppings
Yes I know, but for all intents and purposes it could pretty much be in Beijing
yeah its really visible how he feels after the hand. seems to be a good guy and a very great player. i think its unreal rude how they talked over him during the hand. its been a 1 mio pot and its actually interesting what he is going thru when making the decision. i liked tan a lot but his behaviour here is also very very bad. i think they have to be careful that this does not get into strange home game vibes...
Gas GAS
I am not defending him, his play is pretty rude. With these games, the fish sometimes abuse their ‘fish rights’ as they know they can manipulate the pros to their persuasion. They are leveraging their social position, but it’s definitely angleshooty. I’m not saying every rec player does this as well, more a minority.
Getting a foot massage at the table is legendary lmao
He looked rushed to call all in with AQ v AK, i felt bad for him. Very loud chatter stopping him from making a clear calculated decision. Very unprofessional sportsmanship.
go play online, no one disturbs make clear calculated decision, lol
he was still going to call as he thought Tan could have J10 or QJ which he would make that move with sometime
@@michaeledwards1644 I think you're right, he couldn't let go of his hand!
they even call it a strategy after bullying him
I'm not gonna argue that it wasn't bad etiquette, to say the least, but it literally is a strategy soooo...
Been watching every episode of triton. So much fun but not this episode. Im a chinese but i do agree Liu's act is a shame. Mikita is just taking a minute and they are rushing him. And Xuan claiming Mikita is one of the slowest player in the world. Hell no. Xuan is even slower in other poker episodes. What a shame to both of them. A dislike for this episode.
Mikita is actually faster now, he used to be a lot slower
Yaaa that was inching on racist lol! Mikita is getting ridiculed all episode for going slow and all the Asian players take forever lol! Rushing him to make 500k call in under 30 sec lol 😂
He called because he wanted to, he can fold either
Kogoo Koo No, not possible!! They pushed him! He should get at least 5 minutes to think about his hand without any complaints from the Asians!
Dont understand why they are forcing Badz to think fast in a million dollar pot.. feel bad for him
exactly
Because they are the recreational players in game and it is their game where the pros are invited to. The pros have to play at their speed. Jason Koon talked about this on Ingrams podcast
the thing is, these "fish" aint no fish in my book. They are all decent players. Not Mikita and Koon's level, but they are good amateurs.
And in a crazy game like this with more action than PLO, anything can happen :)
All the pros have less of an edge in this game it looks like
@@laor55 I'd go as far as to say Tan Xuan's better than both & possibly then best player there.. to simply label 'fish' for being recreational player ain't right.. all if means is that they've got other modes of income.. what it is that fortune favors the bold & Mikita has lucked out on that.. & when it doesn't then this happens, or what took place w/ Tony G.
@@laor55 I think Tan Xuan is everything but certainly not a fish and way better than Jason Koon at least at SD. Mikita is clearly the best on this table I agree.
You can easily tell, these guys don't like Mikita at all...
Probably bc for taking so much money off the table and the tanking
It’s from his tanking, they agreed that they would only have 500k in play. They don’t mind he’s taking it off the table simply because only 500k of it is in play so in reality it doesn’t really matter. But yeah his tanking is annoying at times.
HighVoltage It’s “allowed”, it not enforced.
Brandon Barton the ugly old chinaman with the stupid looking sunglasses tanked longer with his 79o on a smaller pot. by the way, he made those sunglasses look cheap.
He tank every hands if he want to play the hand, so annoying
I wonder if jason koon realizes he's talking to himself
haha lol
Well done Lex once again, and special thanks to paul phua!!!!💪😎
yes
18:50 best moment hahah
Liu and Tan were out of line. But as a poker pro, I didn’t expect him to cave in that quickly and made what seemed like a rash call
i love the wild KRAZEEEE gamblers! I just wish there were sub-titles in English when they spoke Chinese to see their fun banter!
Finally something to watch
absolutely disgusting how they treated mikita
I hate when mikita looses he is the most well mannered poker pro I have seen.
Liu Ming is a horrible player and an even worse person.
Gangsters usually are
Triton you have made it too easy with subtitles I’ve been learning mandarin at home 😆
that's cantonese you idiot. they're too low to speak mandarin.
pressure on Badziakuoski, after less than a minute of thinking about joining 1M pounds pot, just disgust me
Finally we get consistent subtitles for all the Mandarin!!!!!! Best poker channel on YT and this account was created in 2006.
How do you turn on subtitles ?
Asa Steppings thanks
This is the first episode that has really left a bit of a sour taste in the mouth, especially since Mikita comes across as such a nice guy. I unstandardised that you need to play by their rules, I guess it’s more what was said after the hand. Like they worked together to make him do that intentionally...
I added the subtitles but it didn't pick up what was said. He was rushed into a decision and didn't look comfortable. Looked like they worked together some how.
Its live poker. Its his fault he gave in to the comments. What you expect from live games ? Mute everyone ? Jesus grow up. This is reality. Dont blame the game. This is jst pure greed from Mikita
@@2728033 Agreed.. & the only reason these guys are crying is bc he lost.. it very well could've been a scenario where that his AQ was against 1 of the other 'all-inners' worse hands but unfortunately for him that wasn't the case..
Also, when one starts actin like soms savant w/ all those calculations I think it just irks these guys the wrong way like he's some beta poser; like, you've got AQ, it's a big pot(Allin pre flop) & it's short deck so it's a gamble either way..
triton poker channel deleting comments of the Chinese guys gang up to bully mikita lol
that's what chinese people are good at. censorship and killing free thinking.
Gas GAS yet u here watching their content, don’t watch then we don’t care
These guys are all friends who play each other regularly regardless how you outsiders feel. Lighten up and relax boys!
not a good look rushing Mikita in that big pot, even though it's their "home game"
They were probably not too happy he took money off the table although allowed + him being a big winner overall, probably explains it
The rules were you had to take money off the table above 500K
translating the non-English table talk is A+ ... hilarious to see them complaining about 'white guys' taking too long to act lmao
Haha it's because the white guys are the pros that take it very seriously and are playing a significant chunk of their roll. The Asian players are all billionaires that could lose a couple million and just call for more chips like it's no big deal.
@@MrKydaman right, hilarious with the pressure they put on Mikita, like taking 30sec to call off $600,000 US is just taking too long when you're a billionaire lol
That pissed me off. Half a million dollar decision
@@paulhiggins140 Yeah, it's over a half a million, but c'mon what's taking so long? 😄
I can’t even afford the antes
liu ming rushes makita because makita bluff him early. make him fold his striaght.
im a huge lex fan
Mikita in his element! Thumbs up!
would of liked to see Tom Dwan..Paul was the best short deck player at the table
chinese billionaires bulliying pros lmao. great content guys and thanks for doing mandari subtitles i was very curious about it not gonna lie 😂
they even called it a strategy after forcing him to an all in
Where are the subtitles? How you turn that on
@@billwelsh9700 hold mouse over play screen click cc
Call that Mikita hand what you want, "being rushed" or "being bullied", but he made the decision to gamble and he lost the hand. Regardless, he handled himself very well after the initial unpleasant emotions and maintained his original demeanor. RESPECT.
I Love Triton Poker!!
Wang Jun come to wrong place, massage all time and never win a hand, he should go to massage shop🤣
Thank you. Please post more !
Great content! Thanks @Paul Phua Poker
happy ending for some
I m definately fan of Pol phua..
Super the chinese translations.
Thx
I miss sam farha on this table
Sam Farha have played televised recently?
I don't see the Chinese translations. How do you see them?
Love the English subtitles. Great idea
Whenever me watch poker videos, training the game all while listening to music that makes me sharp and able to achieve. I like Nirvana, Delta Parole, Smashing Pumpkins etc as music, what you guys listen to focus I am curious?
i listen to music too its very satisfying :)
Lex is the best
inb4 xiaoma collab video 'Clueless white guy plays poker with chinese people, stuns them with perfect chinese'
lol it's just too ridiculous with the subtitles :-D GG
Who is Wang Jun? It sounds by the table talk like he's a big shot
Excellent content thanks!
Where’s Tom ? He loves this game ?
waiting for a seat far away from that stinking low bred chinaman dog with psoriasis rashes.
I can't understand Ming Zhong man, c'mon at least give badziakouski some time to think. Quite a huge pot to be considered and it's not the type of "snap call hand" that he has.
the thing is that is Chinese billionaire game. The pros invited to it essentially have to play to their liking. But hey you are trying to get some of their money, there is only a selective few who can play there. you get the chance to eat the biggest WHALES, you must sacrifice something.
Just like if I host a game and EVERYONE wants in. Then I get to set however many rules I want and people have to obey it. cause if you are not, I will send you home and call someone else in. Supply and demand man.
Chen Fan finally some neutral and sensible comment
Is Lex right? He says everyone is putting half of ante and BU 1 ante. In reallity I saw everyone thinking that full table puts 1 ante and BU puts double. Same is on the graphics ante 3k bu 6k
Good commentary lex!
that head masseur is pretty haha
Could definitely do without the shady dudes at the table. Billionaire mindset seems to make them so disrespectful. I understand that these ultra high stakes cash games inherently attract those types of people, but maybe next time don’t film the ugly side and put it on RUclips. Also too many racist comments at the table and in this comment section.
That was so mean....... honestly you guys gotta do something about it. So unfair
do you guys realize this is an edited version? Mikita very likely took way longer live.
Would be fun if we could actually play short deck!
"Bob the builder" 😂
How come Paul was so quick to tell Mikita 500k max on the table yet some of the asian players shoving for 700k? Seem like one rule for one and one rule for another.. also the pressuring players into playing quicker isn’t on when it’s a big pot..
It’s not 500k max? You can feel free to take money off the table if it’s over 500k? Maybe understand what the rule is before making those foolish comments?
nobody is ever gonna complain when another player has a lot of chips on the table, money off the table is money you cant win
Allan Huang sorry mate but the way lex explains it, made it sound like that was a rule so don’t start jumping down my throat pal.
@@Moneisnik483 shows how clueless these whiners are in the comments..
Pras G No ones whining pal, just confirming the rules so stop being a brown nose and pipe down.
YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
Mikita takes 42 seconds (12:33-13:25) to RAISE and is told to speed up... by the same guy (liu ming) who then tanks for 2mins 17sec (16:23-18:40) to FOLD.
It can't be just me who wants to see liu ming go busto... so bad!
Had to edit b/c I just saw Mikita push liu ming off his broadway straight with 2 pair... made me happy!
Edit again b/c he busted!!! Karma wins!
omg these subtitles are clutch
What brand are the sunglasses, Liu Ming is wearing?
15 seconds to act except 30 seconds for any all-in and on the turn. This would stop all the tanking. Make boss very happy!!!
YES
Dat masseuse doe
Whoever wins the most 60-40s is the next great poker superstar
Liu Ming is such a fish in this game, I mean I'm not a short deck expert but that call with AJ off vs AQ does not seem correct
He was on tilt I recon
Anyone know what Wang Jun does for a living. Can’t find a single thing about him on the web
good luck finding much online about these guys - chinese mob
Defo all connected. They call me liang ‘boss’ just shows you haha
Tan Xuan is the best
This is real and raw poker not the tanking and hollywooding crap on places like latb.
hi guys
do you guys have information how to join short deck triton poker competition?
i think i am a better player than some players at that table
lol
This game is crazy, one million pounds pot, then ESTI went all in 300k for the first hand.
good to watch but short deck is something i wouldn't be gambling hundreds of thousands of dollars on, also i think they were just joking with Mikita ..its not like they would of called for a clock
When the ante is your bankroll and a minbet is a year salary
38:09 what mikita was counting here? Someone to help
Looks like he was counting his chips from the way he was looking down. Probably already knew he would be allin but it gave him something to do and also to give him some more time
His name is Nikita!!! Not Mikita
Year check all time money list 13th position, he is Nikita
37:57 Yo, wtf he is not even allowed to think about his hand for 1 minute? They pushed Mikita to play this hand. If he had 1 or 2 minutes more, he could fold his hand. This is actually an armed robbery by the Asian people for HALF MILLION DOLLAR!! It was not nice to see this!!
I think I buy yellow curtains and pink flowers
What was the reason they were bullying Makita so much? He had a big decision and didnt even take that long. He should of folded..took his winnings and told them to fuck off. Sorry, but some of them are sleezy players.
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When the foreigners are done playing ...... haha
pros going south
4:29 that looks delicious
burger?