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I may sound strange, but I like that titanium AD 20,5 even more than U.S. original. I know, I know it's weird, but it's fits to me litle bit more. Unfortunately I canť get at this point any of them any way. Sorry for my english - I know it is probably terrible. I am not a native speaker and Iam too lazy to use translator.
Got mine a couple weeks ago. Dremel a ramped back shape to the finger notch so the lock doesn’t rub the fingertip raw and put on a lynch deep carry clip and it’s a fantastic knife.
M4 and Cru-Wear would be amazing choices for both the AD20 and 20.5. I would buy again. Additional: 4 years since Quest for the Perfect Folding Knife?!?
Good timing! Currently sitting on the couch playing with my ti 20.5 clip point! What an awesome knife. Definitely much better overall than the grivory and AUS10A
DLT, on a livestream, said that the factory was reluctant to do Cruwear, a steel with which they have no experience and so is more prone to error for them, but that they are talking abiout another steel now. Some of the Bark Rivers on DLT are exclusive, like the PSK EDC (PSK = personal survival Knife) is an exclusive pattern, I think. The knives are beautiful - I am getting one for Father's Day, and I picked one up for my wife as well.
Got the 20.5 sheep's foot in 3v from knife center and I got to say I've put down most of my knives and carried that ever since. Hands down one of the best EDC knives going around.
Saw your review a couple weeks back which put the 3V Ti on my radar, and then was lucky enough to snag one on the secondary market last week. I'm SO glad I did, because shark lock + Ti scales + 20.5 size is like my PERFECT EDC. Not only is it the King Fidget in the collection, beating out my well broken in PM2 and my Real Steel Griffin, but the full Ti scales give it an IMMENSELY satisfying sound. Plus the 3V means I'm not afraid to actually USE IT!
Got the Ti clip point, immediately threw in skiffs and it’s insanely smooth now. It’s my first CPM 3v and I can’t believe how semi-stainless it is. I can’t stop carrying it
@@Nofkuyoutube oh trust me, skiff bearings in knives take pretty much any mid tier knife to the next level, it’s a pretty cheap mod to so you can’t go wrong
I got a 3V 20.5 as well but I got it in grivory, ended up putting skiff bearings in it and using RGT marbled carbon fiber scales, also added a lynch clip… puts the price over the standard ti version but I really like the feeling of the fat carbon and skiffs so I can’t complain
When Andrew makes an ad20 here in Wampum PA, where does it go? Seriously, I have seen exactly 0 show up anywhere. Not a skinny, a full fat ad20. I’ve seen 0. Like im tempted to drive to the shop where there made and find out.
Oh hey MC, so I just used my Pro-Tech TR-3 at work today for the first time. Worked wonderfully, really liked the knife, coworkers loved it, but it deployed in my pocket _twice_ . Pretty sad about that, since that means I’ll have to return it. Time to wait ages for the MagnaCut version, haha
I grabbed the same 20.5 from Knife Center and I luv it. I only wish I grabbed the sharks foot with the clip point blade that’s how good they did them. Also when you put some skiffs in this ti version the action improves dramatically better than any other 20.5 I’ve modded .
I would like M4 but would also like some better scales which won't need lines. The liner less design with the larger pivot looks better all around. Doesn't need to be Titanium. Carbon-Fiber without liner would do as well.
Love my 3v ti clip point and 3v sharksfoot with RGT bead blasted scales and backspacer. Demko also released carbon fiber and g10 scales as well as steel or titanium stand offs to eliminate the back spacer. Great video as always!
I mean even if you ignore the price if the titanium ones come with half the quality issues of the original AD20.5 that a problem. Not to mention that pocket clip still...
Check out his budget knife videos. Personally I’d just find a comfortably ergonomic style of knife like a Spyderco tenacious. You don’t really need supersteels for cardboard if you maintain your blades.
@@abc456f Demko released carbon fiber and g10 factory replacement scales at the same time the 3v versions dropped as well as steel or titanium stand offs to replace the grivory back spacer $5 for steel $15 fot ti.
Got my ad 20.5 ti today. Initially I was underwhelmed. Played with it and thought about it and now love it however I would really love the ad 20 size. The 20.5 was a little smaller than I expected. Do you think they will ever make a ad 20 oversees ?
So, I have that same titanium 20.5 and when you said MAN now I want one...I actually laughed out loud seeing you have the REAL DEAL right on the table! I'd NEVER carry the 20.5 if I had the MG!! :)
I have an MG AD20 Textured Ti in DLC 3V,, as well as the Ad20.5 all Ti. I love the full size, but the AD20.5 goes into pocket 90% of the time. I use both my G10 and Ti AD20 when doing some heavy work, but the super thin profile of the 20.5, 0.39" total, makes the AD20/6 melts into your pocket, imho.
Hey I have a USA made demko which i purchased about a year ago from knife center and still don’t understand the fascination so I’m willing to let it go. I’ve used it to just test cut paper once or twice and haven’t carried it at all but it has g10 scales and a drop point. I believe I paid $350 plus tax or something in that range but I know you guys are huge demko fans and I just don’t get it. Let me know if interested
Wanted a 3V demko 20.5 but i live in canada so shipping from usa to cad might get it confiscated by customs :( stuck with my aus10a for the foreseeable future
We only buy the ad20.5's because he won't make the mgad20's. That and if you can't afford the ad20. But the mods are taking it above ad20's now and I hope I can get a ad20 in the next 80 years.
@@thrashingjustin I have the AUS10 version and it's the perfect EDC knife. Apart from the steel everything works just fine. Even the clip @metalcomplex likes to criticise. It's in and out of the pocked as fast as it gets. Inside the pocket it's barely noticeable. Blade shape and size to get most jobs done. The Grivory scales are comfortable enough. The steel is the man drawback. While AUS10 gets the job done as well it's fairly weak and if get's into contact with harder materials (floor tiles, granite kitchen top, stuff you don't actually want to cut) it takes damage very quickly. The steel is the only part in need of improvement. The rest is just optics. Nice to have but not needed. Some things to note: • The CTS-BD1 and FRN Para Military 3 isn't all that much cheaper. And any better PM3 is more expensive. • I'm not American. Made in USA or made in Taiwan isn't much of a difference from my perspective.
titanium/3v ad20.5 is probably how demko shoulda made it the first time imo, sharks lock is great but the initial ad20.5 feels like a template of a knife, and now that you can get Original Goat titanium/aluminum scales its more attainable then ever...but tell me not, Demko was giving the middle finger to everyone when he made g10 handle scales available for this knife but had them msrp for 50$
What Metal C!!! I have the clip and sharksfoot in ti and you don't have it? I do and you don't? That's it, steak dinner!!! I'm celebrating.....lol....in all seriousness, I think you know where to look to get a fair market price as they are all sold out in this ti version....both are amazing blades, but go with the sharksfoot as the action is better in this configuration and feel; clip is a close second....I personally love them both. Awesome video!!!
Um, what is the very bottom right knife of the intro 0:01 I've watched a couple of MC's videos and literally noticed it for the first time just now and I know I need it.
can anyone comment on the hardness/heat treat of their 3v ad20.5? mine doesn't hold up like I think 3v should, also the edge was two different angles when I got it!! is that on purpose? got some Tero Tuf scales, highly recommend or just replace the grivory with anything and it feels way better
question is how much is the ti ad 20.5? cause if it’s actually 250+ it’s gonna be a pass for me. cause i can get aftermarket textured (which is better imo) ti scales for ~90, and then i have 2 sets of scales and textured ti scales in whatever texture pattern i want. like bruh 😂.
It was msrp of 315$. The knife center exclusive demko version has a way nicer pivot as well than the grivory and no steel liner. Way nicer than aftermarket scales
Complain!? I just ordered a 20.5 tex-tit for insanely 5500 Swedish kronor. That’s like $530.. My first “real” knife. And it’s made in Taiwan.. Am I stupid?
Lmao we’re patting him on the back for finally coming out with a version of this knife that’s actually worth the initial asking cost. People balk at D2 on a $20 budget knife but when it comes to Andrew Demko’s steel smegma, everyone eats it up like the price is remotely reasonable when it puts Spyderco’s delusions to shame.
With Demko knifes you pay for the locks. I find it more surprising that how much people are prepared to pay for YATF (Yet-Another-Titanium-Framlock) knifes. Doesn't get much easier than frame lock and they are cumbersome to use.
@@Martin.Krischik No you BUY them for the locks, you shouldn't pay through your nose for them. Unique locks are what makes knives competitive, but the price should at least reasonably reflect the quality of the materials. IMHO Hyped prices really suck, especially when you add to that scalpers from the US who buy it all up and then sell it on eBay or Amazon for 30% or so more.
Quality manufacturing isn't cheap in China either. That stopped being "cheap" over a decade ago. These days the Chinese can certainly match anyone in the world, it's just gonna cost ya accordingly. Chinese engineers are actually more costly than most western ones these days, and manufacturing/assembly workers are getting very expensive too, because education level is high and "no one" wants those conveyor jobs anymore, so they gotta pay well to recruit, and people don't _stay_ on those jobs so skill retention is poor and the ROI on training new employees isn't really that great. Where manufacturing and assembly in China still excels and reduces cost, isn't usually the cost of labor anymore - it's the supply chain. Vast industry regions clump together into dense centers for the various industries and subsegments that rely on eachother. So not only do you not need to import much resources, you very often have the raw materials, component productions and processing you need from external suppliers, all right in your backyard. That saves vaaast amounts of money and time on logistics. It also means you can usually knock out prototypes very quickly and fairly cost effectively. It also means there's far fewer middlemen points that bloat the costs, in your production and supply chain. By comparison, manufacturing and assembly in the west very often means lots of materials and components need to be imported from lots of different suppliers, and especially in the US, there's so many middlemen between raw material and product in customer hand, that don't really contribute much of productive value yet still all want their cut - that even if the actual production and assembly labor in the US is cheaper, the final product cost still becomes sky high.
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Textured titanium and Magnacut? Yes. Yes, please.
Couldn't agree more with your opinion about the titanium and size of the Demko Knives
Bought the grivory 3v and added demco carbon fiber scales with stand offs really like that.
Textured Titanium with Magna-Cut AD 20.5 with the Sharksfoot blade would be pretty sweet. A factory deeper carry clip would be nice too.
I may sound strange, but I like that titanium AD 20,5 even more than U.S. original.
I know, I know it's weird, but it's fits to me litle bit more.
Unfortunately I canť get at this point any of them any way.
Sorry for my english - I know it is probably terrible.
I am not a native speaker and Iam too lazy to use translator.
Got mine a couple weeks ago. Dremel a ramped back shape to the finger notch so the lock doesn’t rub the fingertip raw and put on a lynch deep carry clip and it’s a fantastic knife.
Hi, got a picture? Mines eating my finger tips when I fidget with it
Really loving my 20.5 with aftermarket titanium scales right now. 🤦🏼♂️
?.. too expensive?
😂 KC has a 20.5 in MokuTi for only $1200. Holy crap I'm crying it's hilariously beautiful.
Price drop to 1050!
@@adamsteff7856 still a big fat NO for me tho
I like like full ti 20.5, but I’m waiting on the mg ad20. I don’t care how long it takes. I already have a 20.5.
Bought one of these a couple weeks back, and have been loving the 20.5 the whole time. Was glad they finally made one of them in a good steel.
The Heat treat they put on it is awesome too, I've been beating on it at work and it's still sharp enough to shave off pieces of paper.
M4 and Cru-Wear would be amazing choices for both the AD20 and 20.5. I would buy again. Additional: 4 years since Quest for the Perfect Folding Knife?!?
Good timing! Currently sitting on the couch playing with my ti 20.5 clip point! What an awesome knife. Definitely much better overall than the grivory and AUS10A
As unlikely as it is, I'd love to see one in lc200n.
DLT, on a livestream, said that the factory was reluctant to do Cruwear, a steel with which they have no experience and so is more prone to error for them, but that they are talking abiout another steel now. Some of the Bark Rivers on DLT are exclusive, like the PSK EDC (PSK = personal survival Knife) is an exclusive pattern, I think. The knives are beautiful - I am getting one for Father's Day, and I picked one up for my wife as well.
Got the 20.5 sheep's foot in 3v from knife center and I got to say I've put down most of my knives and carried that ever since.
Hands down one of the best EDC knives going around.
I bought that knife center exclusive 20.5 and have to say I do love it. Feels much better than my grivory version
Saw your review a couple weeks back which put the 3V Ti on my radar, and then was lucky enough to snag one on the secondary market last week. I'm SO glad I did, because shark lock + Ti scales + 20.5 size is like my PERFECT EDC. Not only is it the King Fidget in the collection, beating out my well broken in PM2 and my Real Steel Griffin, but the full Ti scales give it an IMMENSELY satisfying sound. Plus the 3V means I'm not afraid to actually USE IT!
Got the Ti clip point, immediately threw in skiffs and it’s insanely smooth now. It’s my first CPM 3v and I can’t believe how semi-stainless it is. I can’t stop carrying it
its insanely smooth with the stock bearings. never felt the need to change them
@@Nofkuyoutube oh trust me, skiff bearings in knives take pretty much any mid tier knife to the next level, it’s a pretty cheap mod to so you can’t go wrong
I haven't bought a 20.5 specifically because of the smaller size. I like the MG AD20 size.
It's so good ... I freaking love it . And if dlt does one in cruwear I'll be in heaven 😍
I got a 3V 20.5 as well but I got it in grivory, ended up putting skiff bearings in it and using RGT marbled carbon fiber scales, also added a lynch clip… puts the price over the standard ti version but I really like the feeling of the fat carbon and skiffs so I can’t complain
Mine is in D2 and aluminum and I love it.
When Andrew makes an ad20 here in Wampum PA, where does it go? Seriously, I have seen exactly 0 show up anywhere. Not a skinny, a full fat ad20. I’ve seen 0. Like im tempted to drive to the shop where there made and find out.
Same here I am always browsing knifes and have yet to see one 😂
That bark river aurora is my favorite camping knife. I got one in cru wear from DLT of course. Would like to see how that magna cut version performs.
I love my 3v Ti AD20.5. Been carrying it religiously but I dropped it at work and have a dent/chip in the blade now so kinda sad
Oh man the sound on that titanium! Really all of them, but the titanium version is just muah *chefs kiss* oh so nice. I think this is my kind of ASMR.
I have mine in my hand while watching this… they’re so good!! 😃🔪
I got the AD20.5 Ti & they shipped to the UK 🇬🇧! Shout out to Knife Centre! But I prefer to smooth Ti, it’s Awesome! 🤩🤩🤩
Yeah... I might need this in m4 if It happens. I've been carrying my m4 940 at work and it seems to be holding up very well.
WOW I didn’t realize how much I like the bark river until now 👌🏻
I got a 3v 20.5 and I got some frag pattern aluminum scales from original goat for it. It is the perfect edc knife
Oh hey MC, so I just used my Pro-Tech TR-3 at work today for the first time. Worked wonderfully, really liked the knife, coworkers loved it, but it deployed in my pocket _twice_ . Pretty sad about that, since that means I’ll have to return it. Time to wait ages for the MagnaCut version, haha
You should see the timascus demko 20.5. It's amazing!
got the sharkfoot, put OG pinapple frag scales on it with a lynch clip and skif bearings, omg its great now
I've been waiting so long for a ad20 I don't Carr what materials I own .5 and love it but u like big knifes.
I grabbed the same 20.5 from Knife Center and I luv it. I only wish I grabbed the sharks foot with the clip point blade that’s how good they did them. Also when you put some skiffs in this ti version the action improves dramatically better than any other 20.5 I’ve modded .
I think it's the Aurora hunter I like? Just a lil different blade shape
BladeHQ is definitely gonna come in with the m4 jade g10
I would like M4 but would also like some better scales which won't need lines. The liner less design with the larger pivot looks better all around. Doesn't need to be Titanium. Carbon-Fiber without liner would do as well.
Love my 3v ti clip point and 3v sharksfoot with RGT bead blasted scales and backspacer. Demko also released carbon fiber and g10 scales as well as steel or titanium stand offs to eliminate the back spacer. Great video as always!
Civivi need to re-do the tamashi in 14c28n. D2 is dumb on a fixed blade
I'd buy one in 14c👌d2 is garbage 😂
can confirm, 3v 20.5 is the first knife to cause me to shelve my k390 spydies for outdoor edc. very solid knife.
I mean even if you ignore the price if the titanium ones come with half the quality issues of the original AD20.5 that a problem. Not to mention that pocket clip still...
Transparent Knives is working on doing a magnacut reblade for the Demko 20.5
That Bark River magnacut model is a beaut!
Could you recommend something meant for box cutting and pretty low budget? And a great boot knife with a belt clip?
Check out his budget knife videos. Personally I’d just find a comfortably ergonomic style of knife like a Spyderco tenacious. You don’t really need supersteels for cardboard if you maintain your blades.
i'm very jealous with you guys.. bunch of new design.. beautiful blade..
LynchNW makes an excellent deep carry replacement clip. 🍻
Yes they do. I got an ano fade clip for my 20.5. Bronze to purple to blue. Waiting for flytitanium to come out with g10 scales.
@@abc456f Demko released carbon fiber and g10 factory replacement scales at the same time the 3v versions dropped as well as steel or titanium stand offs to replace the grivory back spacer $5 for steel $15 fot ti.
@@jamesreese7111 I don't see any scales on the Demko site.
@@abc456f Knifecenter is the only place they are available so far.
@@jamesreese7111 Thanks. I'm looking for a color that will match with the clip, so blue would be my preference.
Thanks!
MC: I know you guys know what this is.
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It’s a nice looking knife for sure! I’ll interested in getting one now lol.
You forgot in between they launched the 20.5 in D2
Man idk why I didn’t think other retailers would do their own exclusives.. would be interesting to get a cruwear with micarta handles.
Cru-Carta! God I hate that name...
A DLT textured ti in cruwear would tip me to trying one of these knives.
Thwack!! What’s goin on RUclips!!!
Best opener ever.
Lol, "Shark's foot blade" that made my day
9:12
Bark River is awesome. They got me into fixed blades, uh oh monies
That bark river is a pretty knife. I need some magnacut in my life.
I have a qsp penguin. It’s ok. Nothing wrong with it but ehh.
I want the new knife center exclusive 20.5 in 3V and dark Timascus handle scales🔥
Got my ad 20.5 ti today. Initially I was underwhelmed. Played with it and thought about it and now love it however I would really love the ad 20 size. The 20.5 was a little smaller than I expected. Do you think they will ever make a ad 20 oversees ?
So, I have that same titanium 20.5 and when you said MAN now I want one...I actually laughed out loud seeing you have the REAL DEAL right on the table! I'd NEVER carry the 20.5 if I had the MG!! :)
I have an MG AD20 Textured Ti in DLC 3V,, as well as the Ad20.5 all Ti. I love the full size, but the AD20.5 goes into pocket 90% of the time. I use both my G10 and Ti AD20 when doing some heavy work, but the super thin profile of the 20.5, 0.39" total, makes the AD20/6 melts into your pocket, imho.
As great as an OG AD20 is it’s such a big knife it wouldn’t be great to carry, the 20.5 is a much more ideal carry size for 90% of people
Hey I have a USA made demko which i purchased about a year ago from knife center and still don’t understand the fascination so I’m willing to let it go. I’ve used it to just test cut paper once or twice and haven’t carried it at all but it has g10 scales and a drop point. I believe I paid $350 plus tax or something in that range but I know you guys are huge demko fans and I just don’t get it. Let me know if interested
so mad I missed it before it was discontinued =(
It's not discontinued. That's just Knifecenter's generic way of listing something specific that may or may not come back in exactly that variant.
@@metal_complex that’s very good to know 👍 thanks!
What we really need is a Taiwan production full sized ad20.
I'll bet they make a bigger one at some point but it won't be quite as thick
Wanted a 3V demko 20.5 but i live in canada so shipping from usa to cad might get it confiscated by customs :( stuck with my aus10a for the foreseeable future
We only buy the ad20.5's because he won't make the mgad20's. That and if you can't afford the ad20. But the mods are taking it above ad20's now and I hope I can get a ad20 in the next 80 years.
Which model and configuration bark river is that? Love it's overall design, materials, and hollow pins.
The Ti Demco is sold out already. No surprise here.
Now i wonder if i should wait for more or get the grivory with after market carbon fibre scales.
Just dont get it. The prices are straight up robbery. Made in taiwan with cheap materials.. nah. Get a para3 and call it a day lol
@@thrashingjustin I have the AUS10 version and it's the perfect EDC knife. Apart from the steel everything works just fine. Even the clip @metalcomplex likes to criticise. It's in and out of the pocked as fast as it gets. Inside the pocket it's barely noticeable. Blade shape and size to get most jobs done. The Grivory scales are comfortable enough.
The steel is the man drawback. While AUS10 gets the job done as well it's fairly weak and if get's into contact with harder materials (floor tiles, granite kitchen top, stuff you don't actually want to cut) it takes damage very quickly.
The steel is the only part in need of improvement. The rest is just optics. Nice to have but not needed.
Some things to note:
• The CTS-BD1 and FRN Para Military 3 isn't all that much cheaper. And any better PM3 is more expensive.
• I'm not American. Made in USA or made in Taiwan isn't much of a difference from my perspective.
THANKS THOMAS!!!! 👍👍
titanium/3v ad20.5 is probably how demko shoulda made it the first time imo, sharks lock is great but the initial ad20.5 feels like a template of a knife, and now that you can get Original Goat titanium/aluminum scales its more attainable then ever...but tell me not, Demko was giving the middle finger to everyone when he made g10 handle scales available for this knife but had them msrp for 50$
What Metal C!!! I have the clip and sharksfoot in ti and you don't have it? I do and you don't? That's it, steak dinner!!! I'm celebrating.....lol....in all seriousness, I think you know where to look to get a fair market price as they are all sold out in this ti version....both are amazing blades, but go with the sharksfoot as the action is better in this configuration and feel; clip is a close second....I personally love them both. Awesome video!!!
I want that qsp sooooo Bad
Love the BRK.
What's the name of the knife you're always opening boxes with?
It's a custom F150 truck spring
Um, what is the very bottom right knife of the intro 0:01 I've watched a couple of MC's videos and literally noticed it for the first time just now and I know I need it.
Got that QSP. Very nice.
theres m390 blade for the rat why not for 20.5?
08:30 i love how you said 20 c weeeeeeee :D
can anyone comment on the hardness/heat treat of their 3v ad20.5? mine doesn't hold up like I think 3v should, also the edge was two different angles when I got it!! is that on purpose?
got some Tero Tuf scales, highly recommend or just replace the grivory with anything and it feels way better
I got the Tero Tuff scales as well 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Textured yeeeeesss
Bark rivers are nice looking, but so over priced in my eyes. That civivi is sick though!
I think I got this for around $63. It is one on the craziest values I have ever seen on a knife.
Awesome unboxing knife !!!
Which Bark River knife is that?
Damnit now I want one of the 2.0.5s in Ti. still cant seem to find one.
Sold out already.
Lynch makes a clip.
I want an obsidian toenail
You must be worthy...
we need a frag pattern
question is how much is the ti ad 20.5? cause if it’s actually 250+ it’s gonna be a pass for me. cause i can get aftermarket textured (which is better imo) ti scales for ~90, and then i have 2 sets of scales and textured ti scales in whatever texture pattern i want. like bruh 😂.
It's been sold out for weeks but you won't get 3v and ti scales in a Demko for 250 when the 3v and grivory are 190.
It was msrp of 315$. The knife center exclusive demko version has a way nicer pivot as well than the grivory and no steel liner. Way nicer than aftermarket scales
Gorgoeus !!
Much better. Noice.
Почему нельзя добавить таймкоды с названием ножей? Вроде бы автор прогрессивный человек, а такую мелочь не может при монтаже обеспечить
think they are calling copper foil carbon fiber.
Magnacut price on dlt says 25$???👹
I hate the sharks foot blade
I like to hear myself talk too. 🤔
Dude, you are the guy who runs z reviews as well right??
No lol. I had never heard of him until just now
Complain!? I just ordered a 20.5 tex-tit for insanely 5500 Swedish kronor. That’s like $530.. My first “real” knife. And it’s made in Taiwan.. Am I stupid?
I bought a knife for $2000 yesterday. No. You're not.
Lmao we’re patting him on the back for finally coming out with a version of this knife that’s actually worth the initial asking cost. People balk at D2 on a $20 budget knife but when it comes to Andrew Demko’s steel smegma, everyone eats it up like the price is remotely reasonable when it puts Spyderco’s delusions to shame.
With Demko knifes you pay for the locks. I find it more surprising that how much people are prepared to pay for YATF (Yet-Another-Titanium-Framlock) knifes. Doesn't get much easier than frame lock and they are cumbersome to use.
@@Martin.Krischik
No you BUY them for the locks, you shouldn't pay through your nose for them. Unique locks are what makes knives competitive, but the price should at least reasonably reflect the quality of the materials. IMHO
Hyped prices really suck, especially when you add to that scalpers from the US who buy it all up and then sell it on eBay or Amazon for 30% or so more.
Nothing better than Spyderco you get what you pay for
Quality manufacturing isn't cheap in China either. That stopped being "cheap" over a decade ago. These days the Chinese can certainly match anyone in the world, it's just gonna cost ya accordingly. Chinese engineers are actually more costly than most western ones these days, and manufacturing/assembly workers are getting very expensive too, because education level is high and "no one" wants those conveyor jobs anymore, so they gotta pay well to recruit, and people don't _stay_ on those jobs so skill retention is poor and the ROI on training new employees isn't really that great.
Where manufacturing and assembly in China still excels and reduces cost, isn't usually the cost of labor anymore - it's the supply chain. Vast industry regions clump together into dense centers for the various industries and subsegments that rely on eachother. So not only do you not need to import much resources, you very often have the raw materials, component productions and processing you need from external suppliers, all right in your backyard. That saves vaaast amounts of money and time on logistics. It also means you can usually knock out prototypes very quickly and fairly cost effectively. It also means there's far fewer middlemen points that bloat the costs, in your production and supply chain.
By comparison, manufacturing and assembly in the west very often means lots of materials and components need to be imported from lots of different suppliers, and especially in the US, there's so many middlemen between raw material and product in customer hand, that don't really contribute much of productive value yet still all want their cut - that even if the actual production and assembly labor in the US is cheaper, the final product cost still becomes sky high.
5 minutes to get to the knife.
🔥😍🔥