The original JAS39A was a single seater, the JAS39B a double seater training version The updated 39C a single, this one probably a 39D a trainer double seater. The 39E again a single, and the upcoming 39F will be a double seater. Sense a pattern, don't you?
I don't think people are "cut" from the training in that sense in sweden. The training is a bitt different than it is in the US, if you get accepted you are likely to also pass because the entrance tests are designed in a way so that only the ones that can really make it are accepted. In the US I believe it's more common for them to take in more trainees that they need pilots, not really the case in sweden, that would be too expensive. 🙂
This is correct. Not that they allow people to continue without succeeding but the attitude from instructors and higher officers is to aid with reaching the goals.
@@sharg0 Yep! There might be more 1-1 discussions with the instructors and a more personal educational environment where each pilot gets more "teacher time" so to speak, depending on how much they need. It's similar in the regular army. I was a conscript 2020-2021 and no one "failed". If someone is getting behind the rest of the group, the instructors will take their time with them so that this person gets up to speed with the rest of the group. The goal is to produce quality soldiers, if you let people fail - you've wasted taxpayer money and not gotten anything in return. They just make sure that the people getting in have the physical and mental capacity to get through the education.
@@tobias_dahlberg We had one guy that wasn't allowed to continue after the first six weeks of basic training (air force) when I did my conscript time in -93/94. Tore the captains heart out to send him home since the guy really wanted to do his service and he was a good hearted guy as well that never complained. But he just wasn't able to learn fast enough.
Drones already have taken over most of fighterplanes missions. JAS is since earlier versions prepared for autonomous driving, without a pilot. Future combat will be mostly unmanned. They will be enabled to interact with other autonomous units. Because of jamming even on some jump frequenzy, completely autonomous will also be needed, with AI based decision making on realtime information via foto,video,lidar, radar, infrared etc. Maybe if a robot begin to think to much it will refuse to fight :). The salary in swedish military is very low, so they are seeking people all the time. They have a hard time to keeping the pilots. Swedish defence budget is 1% of BNP, Russias 4.3% of their BNP and USA have 3,7%(2020) of BNP and the us have 30* bigger population than sweden.
Correction on one thing: Defense budgets are measured against gdp not bnp,and Sweden spends a little over 1%. Current approved budget will put us at 2% by 2025 which is a 60% increase..but .. A large procentage increase of a small ammount,is not enough imo. For reference. During the Cold war it was 4-4.5 % plus alot more investments in procurement,development and through and to the total Defense for total war. So i agree the budget is small and the huge increase can only be called huge because we almost cut out military out of existence. More is needed to be agreed to before 2025 for 2025-2040. Unlikely but who knows,we live in interesting times.
Second try with this comment... First got deleted by YT I believe (I used the term for the pilot's office in front of the plane). You should take a look at "Gripen and G-Force" from SAAB. It is a film from the pilot's view of a air show program by SAAB's test pilot. Besides the main ideo they also inserted a small frame showing it from the outside to make it easier to follow the twists and turns as well as a displaying the G-load on the pilot at all times. Thanks to the point of view most of the instruments are visible as well. ruclips.net/video/eXaPfUs6sQw/видео.html
@@rayceofhistory IF you like the above G-force video you should loom into this beast of a Gripen pilot too. Off the chart! ruclips.net/video/_0nbRYIBVDQ/видео.html
@@rayceofhistory I tried to post a youtube link but it was removed :D Search for "More 30 seconds at 9g - the G-Monster is back!" Its a insane gripen pilot doing G-force qualification. :D
@@rayceofhistory you can also find a US pilot commenting on that video in real time,and another video that took place later where someone reached out and allowed for the US fighter pilot to do a podcast style interview with the Swedish veteran test pilot. This is deep dive stuff and if you wanna hear complex stuff atleast i wouldn-t even know to notice or considered, as xplained very simply and to the point so its easy to grasp. (He seems genuinely a little shocked at times at what the plane and pilot can do and tolerate,which is a decent ywlp review for both pilot and plane ;p ) Link if you want/reply stating so. Dont want you being overwhelmed with suggestions...your only a man rayce!! Theres only 24 hours to a day!! 👍 😄
Well, they could probably get cut if they fail the continuous background check that happens every N years, there are also a few who have to quit because of medical reasons. Flying at those speeds are awesome, i haven't flown anything IRL (except as a passenger), but i have flow full cockpit simulators and the F22 Raptor in MS Flight simulator in VR. Flying at treetop level gives you an insane sense of speed, same goes with flying the F18 hornet from carrier in DCSWorld, i giggle like a 5 year old whenever i catapult from the deck :) See my channel for some videos. I've talked to 3 Gripen pilots i met in the armed forces and the 2 that have tried VR say's it gives a fair experience - minus the G-forces of course. Yes, there is a training version of Gripen (C version) with dual seats. SK60, the Introductory trainer have 2 to 4 seats for students and teachers.
You are correct, it is a training variant. The normal ones are single seated.
The original JAS39A was a single seater, the JAS39B a double seater training version
The updated 39C a single, this one probably a 39D a trainer double seater.
The 39E again a single, and the upcoming 39F will be a double seater.
Sense a pattern, don't you?
@@MathiasHeinel Correct its a JAS 39D
From Sweden, thanks for your videos ! I really enjoy your videos !
I don't think people are "cut" from the training in that sense in sweden. The training is a bitt different than it is in the US, if you get accepted you are likely to also pass because the entrance tests are designed in a way so that only the ones that can really make it are accepted. In the US I believe it's more common for them to take in more trainees that they need pilots, not really the case in sweden, that would be too expensive. 🙂
This is correct. Not that they allow people to continue without succeeding but the attitude from instructors and higher officers is to aid with reaching the goals.
@@sharg0 Yep! There might be more 1-1 discussions with the instructors and a more personal educational environment where each pilot gets more "teacher time" so to speak, depending on how much they need. It's similar in the regular army. I was a conscript 2020-2021 and no one "failed". If someone is getting behind the rest of the group, the instructors will take their time with them so that this person gets up to speed with the rest of the group. The goal is to produce quality soldiers, if you let people fail - you've wasted taxpayer money and not gotten anything in return. They just make sure that the people getting in have the physical and mental capacity to get through the education.
@@tobias_dahlberg We had one guy that wasn't allowed to continue after the first six weeks of basic training (air force) when I did my conscript time in -93/94. Tore the captains heart out to send him home since the guy really wanted to do his service and he was a good hearted guy as well that never complained. But he just wasn't able to learn fast enough.
Drones already have taken over most of fighterplanes missions. JAS is since earlier versions prepared for autonomous driving, without a pilot. Future combat will be mostly unmanned. They will be enabled to interact with other autonomous units. Because of jamming even on some jump frequenzy, completely autonomous will also be needed, with AI based decision making on realtime information via foto,video,lidar, radar, infrared etc. Maybe if a robot begin to think to much it will refuse to fight :). The salary in swedish military is very low, so they are seeking people all the time. They have a hard time to keeping the pilots. Swedish defence budget is 1% of BNP, Russias 4.3% of their BNP and USA have 3,7%(2020) of BNP and the us have 30* bigger population than sweden.
Correction on one thing: Defense budgets are measured against gdp not bnp,and Sweden spends a little over 1%. Current approved budget will put us at 2% by 2025 which is a 60% increase..but ..
A large procentage increase of a small ammount,is not enough imo. For reference. During the Cold war it was 4-4.5 % plus alot more investments in procurement,development and through and to the total Defense for total war.
So i agree the budget is small and the huge increase can only be called huge because we almost cut out military out of existence.
More is needed to be agreed to before 2025 for 2025-2040. Unlikely but who knows,we live in interesting times.
Second try with this comment... First got deleted by YT I believe (I used the term for the pilot's office in front of the plane).
You should take a look at "Gripen and G-Force" from SAAB.
It is a film from the pilot's view of a air show program by SAAB's test pilot. Besides the main ideo they also inserted a small frame showing it from the outside to make it easier to follow the twists and turns as well as a displaying the G-load on the pilot at all times.
Thanks to the point of view most of the instruments are visible as well.
ruclips.net/video/eXaPfUs6sQw/видео.html
They get real weird about comments with links in them, even if the link is one of theirs, I’m not sure why. But that sounds good, thanks!
@@rayceofhistory IF you like the above G-force video you should loom into this beast of a Gripen pilot too. Off the chart! ruclips.net/video/_0nbRYIBVDQ/видео.html
@@rayceofhistory I tried to post a youtube link but it was removed :D Search for "More 30 seconds at 9g - the G-Monster is back!" Its a insane gripen pilot doing G-force qualification. :D
@@rayceofhistory you can also find a US pilot commenting on that video in real time,and another video that took place later where someone reached out and allowed for the US fighter pilot to do a podcast style interview with the Swedish veteran test pilot.
This is deep dive stuff and if you wanna hear complex stuff atleast i wouldn-t even know to notice or considered, as xplained very simply and to the point so its easy to grasp.
(He seems genuinely a little shocked at times at what the plane and pilot can do and tolerate,which is a decent ywlp review for both pilot and plane ;p )
Link if you want/reply stating so. Dont want you being overwhelmed with suggestions...your only a man rayce!! Theres only 24 hours to a day!! 👍 😄
@@FreeRangeHuman1 yeah man I’m always open for new videos, articles, even books. I’m a nerd, this is all I do in my free time.
I dont know in detail what he is seeing on the hud, but basicaly heading, speed altitude, etc
Im sure some dev at SAAB at one point made it run DOOM
There is also tactical information, radar (including radar data from other 39's), weapon status, maps and a bunch more depending on needs.
@@andersmalmgren6528 haha :P Yeah I'm sure they did. And they probably played doom on the first gripen :P
Well, they could probably get cut if they fail the continuous background check that happens every N years, there are also a few who have to quit because of medical reasons.
Flying at those speeds are awesome, i haven't flown anything IRL (except as a passenger), but i have flow full cockpit simulators and the F22 Raptor in MS Flight simulator in VR. Flying at treetop level gives you an insane sense of speed, same goes with flying the F18 hornet from carrier in DCSWorld, i giggle like a 5 year old whenever i catapult from the deck :) See my channel for some videos. I've talked to 3 Gripen pilots i met in the armed forces and the 2 that have tried VR say's it gives a fair experience - minus the G-forces of course.
Yes, there is a training version of Gripen (C version) with dual seats. SK60, the Introductory trainer have 2 to 4 seats for students and teachers.
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