Something Vince, HHH, Bischoff, Heyman and many others understood. Whether you love or hated the wrestler/character in the ring as long as they're getting a genuine reaction and get people tuning in every week your doing your job right.
Lol k, look at the viewership numbers. People didn't tune in. They tuned out. Those 'genuine reactions' were the last cries of hard working die hard wrestling fans on the way out the door. But hey, at least they packed the (camera side of) arenas
That's bullshit. When the Rock was getting that same treatment they turned him heel to match the audience reaction. Wrestling always has been, and always will be an extremely racist genre of entertainment.
Used to be a diehard wrestling fan since the In your House days when under taker wore the purple gloves but I lost interest during the Super Cena colorful shirts era. The writing just became lazy and predictable. Moved to MMA and never looked back
Don't gimme that the old saying goes you don't know what's good until it's gone and now seen as a part-timer if people pretty much begging for him to come back people do stop being so wishy-washy and make up their mind😅
Cena was the reason i became a wwe fan in the first place when i was still a teenager. Started watching around 2006-2007 when Cena was still loved by adults too. I was still a Cena after he changed but still missed the old Cena from 2004-2007.
As a teenager I always wanted his physique. He didn't look like a bodybuilder, he looked like a ripped football player and that's the first time I remembered having the realization I wanted the physique of a athlete more than anything. I had Wrestlemania 22 on dvd and the special features had John doing his training with Barbell Back Squats, Front Squats Split Squats, Glute Ham Raises, Deadlift variations, Benching variations, OHP, Rowing, Power Cleans, Snatches, and weighted Pull ups and Dips. Almost everything was a compound movement and I remember him saying he hated Curls and isolation bodybuilding exercises. I was blown away, I had no idea there was a way to lift that wasn't bodybuilding and a way to organize the body to train other than the bodybuilding body part Split. John was somewhat tall at 6'1, for a wrestler a average height. But he was more stocky in his build than shorter guys like Benoit. And more cut up! When Big Show says John had the most control over you than any other wrestler and you felt the safest because John was that strong, then you know John is a beast.
One thing Vince knew was how to get people to watch. John Cena was a character and a huge personality. He did his part so well! Kids wanted to be him. He always kept us watching
@@athletes6724not entirely True. Steph gave Cena his new rap gimmick. But that wasn't what pushed him to be the face of WWE. When Austin retired, Kurt was taking time out, brock and rock left the business. All the big faces were either moving out, injured or retired. Vince asked the locker room if anyone can take up the position as the next baby face. And when everyone was standing silently, Cena stood up and asked to put the trust on him. And Vince started to push Cena as the baby face. What you are talking about takes place when cena's initial gimmick was bad and could have been kicked out.
Or….hear me out. They’re not there to see John Cena because there’s more than one guy on that roster. What an idiotic argument. Say I’m a big Randy Orton fan and he’s in a current feud that is really heated and I enjoy and WWE finally comes to my town in my local arena and I get a chance to see that Orton feud play out in person, am I gonna not go just because I hate John Cena? Of course not, I’m still gonna go, but not to see Cena. To say that the entire arena is there to specifically see Cena is quite a stretch.
@@docproc144 Many people still went specifically to see Cena. Kids liked Cena and parents would bring them to see Cena. Half the Stadium loved Cena. Was the Lead Merch Seller for years. Cena quite literally ran the company
@@chuch541 no he isn't. Shawn and Bret almost killed the wwf being the top guys who didn't draw before Austin came along. You should have said Austin or Rock if you were praising the attitude era
@@StoneColdJohnnySins1 Shawn Michaels was 10 times the performer in the ring that John Cena was. And he didn’t need to kick you out of 20 finishing maneuvers to do it. Furthermore, Shawn Michaels never performed in front of half empty arena’s, John Cena has. And now I give the final nail in the coffin. Yes, Sean, Michaels and Bret Hart struggled domestically when it came to the television viewership because they had competition, direct competition. John Cena was the top guy of WWE for a decade plus we’re half the audience disappeared, and there was no direct competition. So the product was so bad people would rather not watch wrestling, then watch him…. and you’re going to tell me that he’s better than Shawn or Bret? Who the hell are you trying to impress because it sure as hell isn’t me.
John Cena is everything that Hulk Hogan claims to be. John sold tickets, was the man, and treated the business and his coworkers with respect. Edit: For those claiming that I'm "discrediting Hogan", I'm not. I'm just pointing out that others, like John Cena have been able to help the business without stopping the push of other wrestlers, going into business for themselves, and just being aholes in general.
Hey bull shifter what in the hell are you talkin about everything Hulk Hogan claims to be? What planet are you from and how old are you if it wasn't for Hulk Hogan making WRESTLING what it is today !! he's sold tons of merchandise sold-out Arenas and there are more positive stories about him than negative!! Please get a clue before you post anything moronic!
John cena, Rey Mysterio, Randy Orton and Jeff hardy all these dudes help me fall in love with wrestling when I was a kid John’s a god damn legend I miss his uncensored era but he’s more then a wrestler he’s a brand now so it’s understandable he plays that pg role
Whether you booed him or you cheered him you still saw him. You know what the real Kiss of Death for a wrestler is? Apathy. When the fans consider his presence in the ring as a good time to hit the bathroom or the concession stand, that's when it's time for him to go.
When he was super cena in his prime you knew that cena would be the face of wrestling for decades to come, his promo skills were inspirational and unforgettable he always had some sort of charisma that made u want him to win. Even when he did get booed.
If that was the case, how come the pipe in cheers and edit out the boos and confiscated signs? I’m sorry, but when you’re announces have to constantly do damage control for you every single week that means you suck at your job.
And unfortunately, the WWE has done an incredible job of brainwashing a lot of you because if you tell a lie long enough and if you tell it well enough, it becomes fact. The whole reaction thing didn’t become a thing until he didn’t get the right reaction. Why wasn’t getting booed more than cheered good enough for Hogan who is a much bigger star at his peak in pro wrestling than John ever was? Why wasn’t it good enough for the rock? Who at his peak was a much bigger star than John was? All of these guys that when the crowd changed on them, they changed as well. It’s like you guys just forgot lol
@@darthdesidus4361 Exactly. Cena buried a lot of the stars and now people just forget and moved on. Now he comes back to put over younger stars so that people can say "Ohh Cena is putting young stars over" when he should have been doing that a long time ago. I always consider Taker and Orton the ACTUALL prp wrestling GOATs. Never used back stage politics, loyal to the company, High of praise from ex- Wrestlers, always willing to put ober younger stars (Orton lost to Jinder ffs!), Never went to Hollywood unlike... Cena, Reigns are the GOATs that Vince wanted them to be. Taker and Orton are the true Pro-Wrestling greats.
@@leonidashitler4972 This is a bit far fetched but they could of had Cena be the leader of the new nWo and he was plotting to take over WWE for months. I think a reinvented nWo would have worked but Vince Mcmahon asked Cena about turning heel and he always refused so blame Cena. The thing about Cena is he has never changed never reinvented his character same old boring Cena, just look at Chris Jericho he reinvents himself all the time to stay relevant and fresh.
Maybe but Cena was a huge draw with kids. There’s no way he’d do a turn for business when he knew his branding and where his merch sales were coming from. That would’ve crushed him and he was the perfect transition out of the Attitude/ Invasion/ RA era into the PG era.
@@thechamp30 No one would say he doesn't deserve it. Cena said he doesn't want to knock Ric Flair off that #1 spot, though. Sharing the record, sure. He won't take it, though.
@@TEAMRED305 buddy the chairman of WWE Vince and triple h said that cena is the greatest WWE superstar of all time. So we should respect their words as they know business more than us.❤
I think if John Turned heel with a new look or like an anti-hero change like Sting did, people would be interested. And if he could switch his finishers for something else too that would help. Sometimes you have to destroy and rebuild to usher in a new era of interest
I think that wont happen. Maybe because Kids see cena as their hero and It will sure break their hearts. I think he is the only wrestler that didnt switch sides.
If they went the Sting route they Cena would have to come back to WWE full time for Atleast 1 year to build up that story and give him a decent rivalry. But that’s not happening. Not unless Cena’s acting career implodes and forces him out of Hollywood or if TKO pulls some crap. Sting turning into Crow Sting and feuding with the NWO was one of the best bookings in wrestling history. It’s why you praise sting now. In fact WCW’s creative energy probably all went into that. Cause WCW kind of started to plummet after that.
He was positioned as the top guy for 10 years and during that 10 years half the audience disappeared. The people booing him were telling you, “we don’t like him”. They went ignored so they changed the channel and didn’t come back.
@@darthdesidus4361 really. I didn’t noticed. I was a kid though. I cheered for him. So I guess what they said isn’t true. It doesn’t make sense why they kept him there is the audience disappeared. The real reason is that they went PG.
Love him or hate him, Cena was the single biggest star WWE found in the modern Era. He transformed wrestling and because one of the best of all time for it.
What Triple H won’t bring up is the fact that when you’re the top baby face, you’re not supposed to get booed. Guys like the hitman guys like the rock guys like hulk hogan for god sake’s proved that. Because when they got the wrong reactions for their character they changed. Furthermore, the only reason WWE got away with not changing him was because they had no direct competition that was threatening enough for them to tighten the belt like they did in the 80s and the 90s.
Exactly. Man, I have day dreams of what a hrel Cena would have bene like and the amazing storyline it would have brought. The emotion, the rage, the tears... maybe a hero gone stray, or corrupted, etc. So many posibilities. Having kids cry because rhey dont understand why their hero turned bad... and in so, brinfing in a new hero that whiops him straight. Then have a Cena redemption arc. Nothing sells more thn a redemption arc, and Cena couldnt have thar... because the last time he was a heel, he was Doctor of Thuganamics in 2003 and wasnt the top at anything back then 🤷🏻♂️
@@CursedPR professional wrestling is not difficult to understand. And the easiest way to dispel them on this particular. Subject is this; if people were allowed to get sick and tired of hulk, everyone else that came after him is fair game because there’s been nobody other than Steve Austin on the rock that even touches how over hulk hogan was.
@@CursedPR John being a bad guy would’ve been major business for them. And here’s why, the people that the crowd were actually behind could’ve gotten their time John would’ve been getting the right reaction for his character and if done correctly, you would’ve had an atmosphere on that show were you wouldn’t know what was shoot and what was work.
Just think he was the last one to be called up from OVW, and he was going to be released that same year around Christmas time! Now Cena is the biggest household name in history! Not just in wrestling but, also in Hollywood
regardless of what you thought of him, there was a reaction or chants all the time when he was out there, especially when he had a mic in his hand. Always give the man his flowers “you’ll miss me when im gone”
@@p-star7678 im a cena fan ever since he came in so I just wanted to be realistic but I can say 100% stone cold is the best of all time when you heard that glass break shit was over
Who in the hell are you kicking out to put him in? Hogan Austin Rock Andre, Savage, Undertaker, Shawn, Bret, Triple H, Foley, Angle, Lesnar. I didn’t even get into Bruno or Bob Backlund or superstar Billy Graham. John was the face of the decline of WWE’s popularity. The rest of the guys I mentioned were at the precipice of when they were exploding, or the most popular brand in the entire world eclipse in all sports and entertainment.
Cena in my opinion is the greatest superstar of all time because he carried wrestling when wrestling was not as cool.. After Rock and Austin and particularly after Guerrero and Benoit,, Those were the two toughest times Vince faced and who was the man through all that!!
Definitely. Whether people want to admit it or not, i think HHH understands the business better than just about anyone. He knows what works and what fills seats, and I believe he learned A LOT from Vince over the years (back when Vince knew what he was doing as well, these days maybe not so much)
I had stopped watching wrestling around 1999 and what i can say as fact these 3 gentlemen brought me back as a fan well 4 if you count The Rock but mainly Trips Cena and Austin!
The issue that marks had with John wasn't _John himself_ - no one can claim that he is anything less than a great guy outside of Kayfabe; go look at Make A Wish. They didn't like Creative pushing him over everybody else. John is very kid friendly in character; that's why kids and women (generally) cheered him, vs. men booing him. But everyone can agree that whether he drew cheers or heat, he did it organically. That was the main problem with Roman in '14 and '15. Creative tried to recreate Super!Cena with him, but Roman didn't get over by himself. SHIELD, yes, but not by himself. Not yet at that point.
Old legends tweak it his characters every now and then and evolved. e.g. How many times the Rock, Stone cold, Undertaker changed from Heel to Babyface to tweener? Cena was not bad, but his superhero character got static for way too long .
Cena and my dad are my two childhood heros. I will forever be grateful I had those role models to look up to. When the rock beat Cena at wm28, I was crying. He meant that much to me.
Cena was literally a tweener. That being said I feel that turning him heel would have been the biggest thing in wrestling since the nwo. Biggest missed opportunity since the invasion imo.
He packed arenas and sold more merchandise because Vince was hesitant about making big stars and pushing them to the moon after Brock walked out. The only two guys who outsold Cena were Punk and Zack Ryder. Vince pushed Punk. Ryder got over on his own and we all know what happened after that.
@@lancebrown5163 So they was selling a couple of people merch and John cena merch but somehow they was pushing John merch more? So if the fans was spending their money on John cena merch instead of the couple of peoples merch it wasn’t because they wanted Cena merch, it was because it was forced?
No lie. My great uncle took me and my cousin to Raw, the night when John Cena and HBK beat Rated RKO for the tag team titles. Literally one half of the crowd was booing Cena and the other half would cheer him for the ENTIRE match. Good times.
Vince got tired of listening to the audience so he decided to do it he pleased, and as a result less people watched the show. John Cena fans will never say that because it ruins there image of him. He was trash, and everyone knows it.
@@Herbert_Rudolf sadly, it doesn’t matter that you think that. Millions of domestic viewers decided they would rather not watch wrestling, then watch his lame act. And if he was not as bad as I making him out to be, he wouldn’t have been so widely rejected, no matter where they went. They would even go to his home town, and he would get booed out of the building because his character wasn’t relatable, nor was it interesting or compelling. Furthermore, if what I’m saying isn’t true why would they edit out negative reactions piping positive ones and confiscate signs at the arena’s? These are all things that have been documented because they happened.
To bad Roman can't do the same. When people boo him it's because they legit don't want to see him. He's lost more than half the views cena used to bring.
After the end of the attitude era when both the rock and Austin left the WWE , between 2003-05 there was a huge gap in WWE hhh,hbk and undertaker had to work so hard to cover it, they have found a perfect heel character with Orton, but they needed also someone as the face , someone like Hogan Austin and the rock, that what they found in john Cena, but Cena wasn't just trying to be a copycat, he was trying to make hia own unique character and he succeeded, whether you hate him or like him you can't ignore the fact that he worked very hard to get the popularity he has today
Yeah but if you look back on Cena's Era unless you was 10 you pretty much thought it was Awful. John Cena was the Champion of the People from late 2003- mid 2005 then got Drafted to RAW which first off looking back he should have been Drafted in 2006 Not 2005 but when he did get Drafted it was like something was Off about him and by around SummerSlam of that year. We knew what it was, he had Sold Out in the back and gone Corporate cause Now he was Vince's Boy, he didn't Fight the System like Stone Cold did for years which is a Big Reason he got Over like he did, No Cena was part of what was Now Wrong with WWE with it's Corporate Yes Men and the people had Nobody to really cheer on RAW so if you take away Our Champion we are gonna root against him even if it's for Heels. By WWE standards except Money, Cena Failed, he was Booed as a BabyFace I've seen guys get demoted for less, and he got the Heel Cheered cause of his Heat of Selling Out but yet Vince kept pushing him down Our Throats for 10 Years. Cause when The Chain Gang started booing him WWE started pushing him towards Kids and Casual Fans people who knew Jack about Wrestling and called them the C-Nation but it worked I guess but that whole Era if you was a Chain Gang Fan kinda left a Bad Taste in your Mouth.
I think because some got so used to him that they forgot how talented he was/is… The older I get the more I respect wrestlers (entertainers period or people in general)! The mind of the buyer and the mind of the seller function so differently until they meet. Becoming a content creator/business owner showed me a different side to a lot of things surprisingly and it made me a better consumer.
John Cena, the name, is way more popular than WWE itself. There are people who haven't watched a single WWE match ever in their life and yet they happen to know John Cena. That's the popularity he has built with his legacy. There are gonna be debates who is the best WWE superstar ever. I mean c'mon with a popularity greater than the business itself, John Cena truly has rendered himself as the *GREATEST OF ALL TIME.*
When it's all said and done.. no matter how pure we wrestling fans are about everything else.. John Cena will be the only marquee to do it for more than 10 years straight at that level. Honestly... people my age (30+) continued to watch wrestling because of the hustle, the loyalty and the respect. He is the GOAT among GOATs.
Idc what anyone says John cena is the definition of what it means to literally give your life to something you love, Love him or hate him you gotta give the man his respect
Cena sold more merch because of hats, wristbands, a custom spinner belt for him (U.S and WWE championship), a marketing team behind him cause multiple colors sold to kids (don’t like red? Here’s a green cena shirt), and a trademark on his birth name. Other than that yeah John cena is the highest seller in merchandise
Something Vince, HHH, Bischoff, Heyman and many others understood. Whether you love or hated the wrestler/character in the ring as long as they're getting a genuine reaction and get people tuning in every week your doing your job right.
Boos are unique
Exactly! The worst thing is no reaction!
Lol k, look at the viewership numbers. People didn't tune in. They tuned out. Those 'genuine reactions' were the last cries of hard working die hard wrestling fans on the way out the door. But hey, at least they packed the (camera side of) arenas
That's bullshit. When the Rock was getting that same treatment they turned him heel to match the audience reaction. Wrestling always has been, and always will be an extremely racist genre of entertainment.
@@ericcorcoran5665 tv numbers have come down in general but wwe is make highest number of profit
Trip giving Cena respect for basically carrying the company for the better part of 20 years.
15 but yeah John was the man
More like burying the company
@@hydrocy.9165exactly
Nah, Vince McMahon did that job himself
@@hydrocy.9165cry about it
And now the people that used to boo him want him back 😂
Double standard
I don’t think it’s that, I think it’s the generation of kids that loved him that are now adults that want him back
Used to be a diehard wrestling fan since the In your House days when under taker wore the purple gloves but I lost interest during the Super Cena colorful shirts era. The writing just became lazy and predictable. Moved to MMA and never looked back
Me fr
Don't gimme that the old saying goes you don't know what's good until it's gone and now seen as a part-timer if people pretty much begging for him to come back people do stop being so wishy-washy and make up their mind😅
HUSTLE,LOYALTY& RESPECT
Word Life
Cringe!
@@misfit29 Hah, gayyyyyyyy
Cena was the reason i became a wwe fan in the first place when i was still a teenager. Started watching around 2006-2007 when Cena was still loved by adults too. I was still a Cena after he changed but still missed the old Cena from 2004-2007.
Me too, WWE is so boring right now
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im sorry , lol that would have sucked
Me too ❤️🇿🇦 was 6 back then
Chain Gang Dr of Thuganomics will never be beaten. Only person more popular than Cena was Austin and Taker
As a teenager I always wanted his physique. He didn't look like a bodybuilder, he looked like a ripped football player and that's the first time I remembered having the realization I wanted the physique of a athlete more than anything.
I had Wrestlemania 22 on dvd and the special features had John doing his training with Barbell Back Squats, Front Squats Split Squats, Glute Ham Raises, Deadlift variations, Benching variations, OHP, Rowing, Power Cleans, Snatches, and weighted Pull ups and Dips. Almost everything was a compound movement and I remember him saying he hated Curls and isolation bodybuilding exercises. I was blown away, I had no idea there was a way to lift that wasn't bodybuilding and a way to organize the body to train other than the bodybuilding body part Split.
John was somewhat tall at 6'1, for a wrestler a average height. But he was more stocky in his build than shorter guys like Benoit. And more cut up!
When Big Show says John had the most control over you than any other wrestler and you felt the safest because John was that strong, then you know John is a beast.
❤❤❤❤
Lmao what got me into fitness was the WWE mags with the superstars showing of home workouts in the end pages
Yeah he was a beast. Benoits traps we’re ridiculous though 😂
I had that one too! Them three disc fold out cases were my LIFE when I was little. I remember that part in particular
Same bro, I wanted his triceps, Batista's Quads and overall physique of Bobby Lashley
One thing Vince knew was how to get people to watch. John Cena was a character and a huge personality. He did his part so well! Kids wanted to be him. He always kept us watching
Brother vince was horrible
His daughter trusted cena and gave him chances and
Now
Cena is goat
@@athletes6724not entirely True. Steph gave Cena his new rap gimmick. But that wasn't what pushed him to be the face of WWE. When Austin retired, Kurt was taking time out, brock and rock left the business. All the big faces were either moving out, injured or retired. Vince asked the locker room if anyone can take up the position as the next baby face. And when everyone was standing silently, Cena stood up and asked to put the trust on him. And Vince started to push Cena as the baby face. What you are talking about takes place when cena's initial gimmick was bad and could have been kicked out.
He’s the superman of the wwe
Goku
Stone cold will say, What?
Couldn't of said it better brother 👏
If fans don’t want to see someone they will walk out. If they are staying and/or continuously showing up, they want to see that person. Period.
Or….hear me out. They’re not there to see John Cena because there’s more than one guy on that roster. What an idiotic argument. Say I’m a big Randy Orton fan and he’s in a current feud that is really heated and I enjoy and WWE finally comes to my town in my local arena and I get a chance to see that Orton feud play out in person, am I gonna not go just because I hate John Cena? Of course not, I’m still gonna go, but not to see Cena. To say that the entire arena is there to specifically see Cena is quite a stretch.
@@docproc144 Many people still went specifically to see Cena. Kids liked Cena and parents would bring them to see Cena. Half the Stadium loved Cena. Was the Lead Merch Seller for years. Cena quite literally ran the company
@@docproc14490% of the crowd was there for cena night in night out
Wether you wanted his ass kicked or to see him kick ass… you still tuned in to see him!
@@chuch541 no he isn't. Shawn and Bret almost killed the wwf being the top guys who didn't draw before Austin came along. You should have said Austin or Rock if you were praising the attitude era
@@StoneColdJohnnySins1 Shawn Michaels was 10 times the performer in the ring that John Cena was. And he didn’t need to kick you out of 20 finishing maneuvers to do it. Furthermore, Shawn Michaels never performed in front of half empty arena’s, John Cena has.
And now I give the final nail in the coffin. Yes, Sean, Michaels and Bret Hart struggled domestically when it came to the television viewership because they had competition, direct competition. John Cena was the top guy of WWE for a decade plus we’re half the audience disappeared, and there was no direct competition. So the product was so bad people would rather not watch wrestling, then watch him…. and you’re going to tell me that he’s better than Shawn or Bret? Who the hell are you trying to impress because it sure as hell isn’t me.
@@chuch541 If you havent seen one WWE episode How do you know if Cena is good?
You haven't seen him
But we can't see him
Actually i tuned out totally from 2005 to about 2014 thnx to Cena
Our grandmothers did not watch Wrestling but they knew and loved Cena. South Africa
John Cena is everything that Hulk Hogan claims to be.
John sold tickets, was the man, and treated the business and his coworkers with respect.
Edit: For those claiming that I'm "discrediting Hogan", I'm not. I'm just pointing out that others, like John Cena have been able to help the business without stopping the push of other wrestlers, going into business for themselves, and just being aholes in general.
Tell that to Alex Riley.
Hey bull shifter what in the hell are you talkin about everything Hulk Hogan claims to be? What planet are you from and how old are you if it wasn't for Hulk Hogan making WRESTLING what it is today !! he's sold tons of merchandise sold-out Arenas and there are more positive stories about him than negative!! Please get a clue before you post anything moronic!
Hulk created the buissness
The Nexus disagrees
@@akshayjannu678 He stole Billy Grahams gimmick.
John cena, Rey Mysterio, Randy Orton and Jeff hardy all these dudes help me fall in love with wrestling when I was a kid John’s a god damn legend I miss his uncensored era but he’s more then a wrestler he’s a brand now so it’s understandable he plays that pg role
He ain't a God
@@QamruddinKhan-hf4dn no shit Sherlock thanks
Whether you booed him or you cheered him you still saw him. You know what the real Kiss of Death for a wrestler is? Apathy. When the fans consider his presence in the ring as a good time to hit the bathroom or the concession stand, that's when it's time for him to go.
I've never seen him once... No one has.
That's where Austin Theory is at rn and Cena called it months ago
Cena was a monster because you couldn't ignore him. Everyone was buying tix to either boo him or cheer him.
I think they went for other reasons. And then while there they boo’d him
If you wanted someone who basically is real life Clark Kent/superman
You can’t see him
When he was super cena in his prime you knew that cena would be the face of wrestling for decades to come, his promo skills were inspirational and unforgettable he always had some sort of charisma that made u want him to win. Even when he did get booed.
And this is why John Cena will always be leagues above Roman cos Cena was always entertaining no matter the opponent
John Cena took wwe to a different level ❤
An entire arena booing is just as good as an entire arena cheering. Both are the results of people being invested.
Bingo
If that was the case, how come the pipe in cheers and edit out the boos and confiscated signs? I’m sorry, but when you’re announces have to constantly do damage control for you every single week that means you suck at your job.
And unfortunately, the WWE has done an incredible job of brainwashing a lot of you because if you tell a lie long enough and if you tell it well enough, it becomes fact. The whole reaction thing didn’t become a thing until he didn’t get the right reaction. Why wasn’t getting booed more than cheered good enough for Hogan who is a much bigger star at his peak in pro wrestling than John ever was? Why wasn’t it good enough for the rock? Who at his peak was a much bigger star than John was? All of these guys that when the crowd changed on them, they changed as well. It’s like you guys just forgot lol
@@darthdesidus4361 u ass Cena is best he is tha top fish
@@darthdesidus4361 Exactly. Cena buried a lot of the stars and now people just forget and moved on. Now he comes back to put over younger stars so that people can say "Ohh Cena is putting young stars over" when he should have been doing that a long time ago.
I always consider Taker and Orton the ACTUALL prp wrestling GOATs. Never used back stage politics, loyal to the company, High of praise from ex- Wrestlers, always willing to put ober younger stars (Orton lost to Jinder ffs!), Never went to Hollywood unlike...
Cena, Reigns are the GOATs that Vince wanted them to be.
Taker and Orton are the true Pro-Wrestling greats.
John Cena was one of the reasons why WWE has a lot of Global fans right now.
I wanted Cena to turn heel like Hollywood Hogan did. I think it would have been the best heel turn in the history of WWE.
I would have to agree.
Easily and not just a random heel turn . A massive one where he is like the final boss .
@@leonidashitler4972 This is a bit far fetched but they could of had Cena be the leader of the new nWo and he was plotting to take over WWE for months. I think a reinvented nWo would have worked but Vince Mcmahon asked Cena about turning heel and he always refused so blame Cena. The thing about Cena is he has never changed never reinvented his character same old boring Cena, just look at Chris Jericho he reinvents himself all the time to stay relevant and fresh.
I think they tried when he beefed with the rock. It just turned into Cena fans wanting Cena and Rock fans wanting Rock
Maybe but Cena was a huge draw with kids. There’s no way he’d do a turn for business when he knew his branding and where his merch sales were coming from.
That would’ve crushed him and he was the perfect transition out of the Attitude/ Invasion/ RA era into the PG era.
John cena deserves to go into the WWE HALL OF FAME IN THE FIRST ROUND DONT DELAY THIS
Cena is the goat of the whole game
Easily. No question about it
He ain’t a 16 time world champ for nothing, Cena’s the best
Say what you want, but no one comes close to him and Make A Wish!
Please give that man one last world title win. He deserves it.
He doesn’t want to surpass Flair
@@TheBadGuy15Nah he deserves to break ric flair's record
@thechamp30 I'm of the same opinion, if anyone deserves to surpass Flair it's Cena.
@@loregasmicCena already surpassed flair in the fact that he won them titles clean and he ain’t have to cheat
@@thechamp30 No one would say he doesn't deserve it. Cena said he doesn't want to knock Ric Flair off that #1 spot, though. Sharing the record, sure. He won't take it, though.
greatest wwe wrestler of all time
Lmaoo..are you kidding me. Please stop ✋🏾 sir
Definitely not
@@TEAMRED305 you ever heard of smth like an opinion? 🤦♂️
@@TEAMRED305 buddy the chairman of WWE Vince and triple h said that cena is the greatest WWE superstar of all time. So we should respect their words as they know business more than us.❤
@@dr.lakshyamahajan3656 because they scripted him to be beside that he wasn’t shyt terrible mic skills and ring ability
I think if John Turned heel with a new look or like an anti-hero change like Sting did, people would be interested. And if he could switch his finishers for something else too that would help. Sometimes you have to destroy and rebuild to usher in a new era of interest
I think that wont happen. Maybe because Kids see cena as their hero and It will sure break their hearts. I think he is the only wrestler that didnt switch sides.
Exactly
@@mtj8525he can’t keep lifting 300lb dudes up for his finisher, though.
People are just crybabies, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it
If they went the Sting route they Cena would have to come back to WWE full time for Atleast 1 year to build up that story and give him a decent rivalry. But that’s not happening. Not unless Cena’s acting career implodes and forces him out of Hollywood or if TKO pulls some crap. Sting turning into Crow Sting and feuding with the NWO was one of the best bookings in wrestling history. It’s why you praise sting now. In fact WCW’s creative energy probably all went into that. Cause WCW kind of started to plummet after that.
Cena carried the wwe as the baby face for a good 10 years.
He was positioned as the top guy for 10 years and during that 10 years half the audience disappeared. The people booing him were telling you, “we don’t like him”. They went ignored so they changed the channel and didn’t come back.
@@darthdesidus4361 really. I didn’t noticed. I was a kid though. I cheered for him. So I guess what they said isn’t true. It doesn’t make sense why they kept him there is the audience disappeared. The real reason is that they went PG.
Love him or hate him, Cena was the single biggest star WWE found in the modern Era. He transformed wrestling and because one of the best of all time for it.
5 moves
@@stylesyboi728 And?
My Hero❤
Never Give Up
And thats why hes the goat
False
for 10 year olds
WWE wanted Undertaker's streak ended but they couldn't just turn Cena heel when it was the best time.
Whether you loved or hated him he made you scream his name.
Damn crazy to think he carried the wwe company for 20yrs solid one of the greats hof without a doubt
it's when the people don't react at all you've a problem.
What Triple H won’t bring up is the fact that when you’re the top baby face, you’re not supposed to get booed. Guys like the hitman guys like the rock guys like hulk hogan for god sake’s proved that. Because when they got the wrong reactions for their character they changed. Furthermore, the only reason WWE got away with not changing him was because they had no direct competition that was threatening enough for them to tighten the belt like they did in the 80s and the 90s.
Exactly. Man, I have day dreams of what a hrel Cena would have bene like and the amazing storyline it would have brought. The emotion, the rage, the tears... maybe a hero gone stray, or corrupted, etc. So many posibilities. Having kids cry because rhey dont understand why their hero turned bad... and in so, brinfing in a new hero that whiops him straight. Then have a Cena redemption arc. Nothing sells more thn a redemption arc, and Cena couldnt have thar... because the last time he was a heel, he was Doctor of Thuganamics in 2003 and wasnt the top at anything back then 🤷🏻♂️
@@CursedPR professional wrestling is not difficult to understand. And the easiest way to dispel them on this particular. Subject is this; if people were allowed to get sick and tired of hulk, everyone else that came after him is fair game because there’s been nobody other than Steve Austin on the rock that even touches how over hulk hogan was.
@@CursedPR John being a bad guy would’ve been major business for them. And here’s why, the people that the crowd were actually behind could’ve gotten their time John would’ve been getting the right reaction for his character and if done correctly, you would’ve had an atmosphere on that show were you wouldn’t know what was shoot and what was work.
@@darthdesidus4361 Exactly!
So you know better than tripleH LMAO
The biggest vindication against the Cena "haters" is his ovation at the 2008 Royal Rumble. That crowd pop will give every WWE fan chills.
That moment proved that they secretly liked him. It was just the cool thing to hate him
It was ok but Cena to PC
The difference between a good and a great wrestler is fan interaction good or bad and cena did it better than anyone ever.
John cena ❤ and deserves one more world title 💯🙏
Kids needed their Superman, i was ten years old when Cena was carrying Raw and his storylines about preserving always stuck with me
Just think he was the last one to be called up from OVW, and he was going to be released that same year around Christmas time!
Now Cena is the biggest household name in history! Not just in wrestling but, also in Hollywood
regardless of what you thought of him, there was a reaction or chants all the time when he was out there, especially when he had a mic in his hand. Always give the man his flowers “you’ll miss me when im gone”
Cena is top 5 of all time
Easy maybe top three . Who’s your five
@@p-star7678 I put 1:stone cold 2:the rock 3:triple h 4:hulk hogan but that one is iffy then 5:cena
@@p-star7678 im a cena fan ever since he came in so I just wanted to be realistic but I can say 100% stone cold is the best of all time when you heard that glass break shit was over
Who in the hell are you kicking out to put him in? Hogan Austin Rock Andre, Savage, Undertaker, Shawn, Bret, Triple H, Foley, Angle, Lesnar. I didn’t even get into Bruno or Bob Backlund or superstar Billy Graham. John was the face of the decline of WWE’s popularity. The rest of the guys I mentioned were at the precipice of when they were exploding, or the most popular brand in the entire world eclipse in all sports and entertainment.
Cena Undertaker The rock Triple H Hulk Hogan Shawn Michaels Stone Cold just to name a few still got Edge Brock lesnar Randy Orton
Always went to see cena perform but couldn’t see him
"The Face who runs the Place"
#GOAT #HLR #FU #AA #Cenation #NeverGiveUp #Champion
I loved John Cena as a kid and I have a lot of respect for him now. He was entertaining still is.
Cena in my opinion is the greatest superstar of all time because he carried wrestling when wrestling was not as cool.. After Rock and Austin and particularly after Guerrero and Benoit,, Those were the two toughest times Vince faced and who was the man through all that!!
It's when you get zero crowd reaction is when you start to worry.
Turn him heel like Hogan or Reigns and he has a more complete legacy.
the fact he still carries a crowd the way he does is genuine
I think HHH is a numbers guy and if the arena is selling out you got to keep the machine running.
Definitely. Whether people want to admit it or not, i think HHH understands the business better than just about anyone. He knows what works and what fills seats, and I believe he learned A LOT from Vince over the years (back when Vince knew what he was doing as well, these days maybe not so much)
I had stopped watching wrestling around 1999 and what i can say as fact these 3 gentlemen brought me back as a fan well 4 if you count The Rock but mainly Trips Cena and Austin!
The Greatest Of All Time-Johncena 🐐
CARRIED THE WWE AFTER ATTITUDE ERA...PERIOD!!!
The old fans are hypocrites. They boo John for "tired of him" but cheer old ass legends pass their primes and want them to return every fuckin year 😂
The issue that marks had with John wasn't _John himself_ - no one can claim that he is anything less than a great guy outside of Kayfabe; go look at Make A Wish. They didn't like Creative pushing him over everybody else. John is very kid friendly in character; that's why kids and women (generally) cheered him, vs. men booing him. But everyone can agree that whether he drew cheers or heat, he did it organically.
That was the main problem with Roman in '14 and '15. Creative tried to recreate Super!Cena with him, but Roman didn't get over by himself. SHIELD, yes, but not by himself. Not yet at that point.
Old legends tweak it his characters every now and then and evolved. e.g. How many times the Rock, Stone cold, Undertaker changed from Heel to Babyface to tweener? Cena was not bad, but his superhero character got static for way too long .
Because what sells the most sometimes is not to see ur hero win but to see them lose
Every time stone cold, or the rock was on the mic I ran over to my tv 📺 & sure enough, they didn’t let me down Best times
Cena and my dad are my two childhood heros. I will forever be grateful I had those role models to look up to. When the rock beat Cena at wm28, I was crying. He meant that much to me.
Cena was literally a tweener. That being said I feel that turning him heel would have been the biggest thing in wrestling since the nwo. Biggest missed opportunity since the invasion imo.
The heel days ended when Cena feuded with JBL.
Football: Cristiano Ronaldo
Basketball: LeBron James
WWE: John Cena
FACTS‼️
I went to a WWE House show. The audience was 80% children and almost every one of them was decked out in John Cena/Roman reigns attire.
Truth is us adults need to acknowledge that the most fans are all the younger generation and these guys are their heroes
“Whether you like it, or whether you don’t like it, its the best thing going today!”
- Somebody, Probably.
Cena The OG 🐐
He packed arenas and sold more merchandise because Vince was hesitant about making big stars and pushing them to the moon after Brock walked out.
The only two guys who outsold Cena were Punk and Zack Ryder. Vince pushed Punk. Ryder got over on his own and we all know what happened after that.
cut the bullshit man
LA Knight is that guy now. PUSH THAT MAN #YEAHMOVEMENT
Tickets would've sold out either way john was there only reason his merch sales was top cause they were pushing it more than others
Not true😂
@@Eltorogawd When big show was in the Ecw brand he said it himself john cena and a couple others were sold at the Ecw merch stands look it up .
@@lancebrown5163 So they was selling a couple of people merch and John cena merch but somehow they was pushing John merch more? So if the fans was spending their money on John cena merch instead of the couple of peoples merch it wasn’t because they wanted Cena merch, it was because it was forced?
@@Eltorogawd when did I say it was ever forced .I always would say it was smart kids were more attracted to john cena at the time. So why not
@@lancebrown5163 you made it seem like Cena was getting push more than anybody. Like the was forcing Cena Merch on people.
When people understand that WWE has constant 10 year plans in place, you'll stop hating on the "now" and you'll appreciate what's coming.
It doesn’t mean that it was John though. People wanted to see WWE, so regardless if John was there or not, they were gonna go see.
Bro im sure triple h knows much more than you so dont try to change the facts
No lie. My great uncle took me and my cousin to Raw, the night when John Cena and HBK beat Rated RKO for the tag team titles. Literally one half of the crowd was booing Cena and the other half would cheer him for the ENTIRE match. Good times.
I just wanted a cent heel turn. Is that too much to ask for?
Stupidest idea ever
Vince got tired of listening to the audience so he decided to do it he pleased, and as a result less people watched the show. John Cena fans will never say that because it ruins there image of him. He was trash, and everyone knows it.
@@darthdesidus4361 sadly your opinion doesnt matter
Or even a anti-hero turn. That would've natutally propelled him higher than being a superhero that kicked out of everyone's finisher.
@@Herbert_Rudolf sadly, it doesn’t matter that you think that. Millions of domestic viewers decided they would rather not watch wrestling, then watch his lame act. And if he was not as bad as I making him out to be, he wouldn’t have been so widely rejected, no matter where they went. They would even go to his home town, and he would get booed out of the building because his character wasn’t relatable, nor was it interesting or compelling.
Furthermore, if what I’m saying isn’t true why would they edit out negative reactions piping positive ones and confiscate signs at the arena’s? These are all things that have been documented because they happened.
I miss Cena. He was a hard working, charitable helping, ( the make a wish ) . Thank you Cena
Word life
Stone cold looked at HHH like he still wanna kick his ass 😂😂😂😂
Well that finally explains why they never stopped pushing him. Just glad it's over now, I like him more when he's away lol
From experience at those 2000’s shows, most times Cena merchandise was either the most pushed or the only merch they had at the stands.
To bad Roman can't do the same. When people boo him it's because they legit don't want to see him. He's lost more than half the views cena used to bring.
U think it could be how Roman came in apart of nexus & the shield like he was a heel coming in vs John who was kinda a heel but not really?
Yet the ratings are up when he’s in the show and he sells more merch than everyone else. U think Vince would have him on top for no reason
After the end of the attitude era when both the rock and Austin left the WWE , between 2003-05 there was a huge gap in WWE hhh,hbk and undertaker had to work so hard to cover it, they have found a perfect heel character with Orton, but they needed also someone as the face , someone like Hogan Austin and the rock, that what they found in john Cena, but Cena wasn't just trying to be a copycat, he was trying to make hia own unique character and he succeeded, whether you hate him or like him you can't ignore the fact that he worked very hard to get the popularity he has today
Shocking, guy portrayed as a superhero that beats everyone and is always champion is loved by kids.
WWE corporate guys are full of crap, even Triple H
😂😂🤦
Grammatically this sentence is more savage than Cena.
It took 20 years for Cena to get the ovations that he deserves.
Yeah but if you look back on Cena's Era unless you was 10 you pretty much thought it was Awful.
John Cena was the Champion of the People from late 2003- mid 2005 then got Drafted to RAW which first off looking back he should have been Drafted in 2006 Not 2005 but when he did get Drafted it was like something was Off about him and by around SummerSlam of that year. We knew what it was, he had Sold Out in the back and gone Corporate cause Now he was Vince's Boy, he didn't Fight the System like Stone Cold did for years which is a Big Reason he got Over like he did, No Cena was part of what was Now Wrong with WWE with it's Corporate Yes Men and the people had Nobody to really cheer on RAW so if you take away Our Champion we are gonna root against him even if it's for Heels.
By WWE standards except Money, Cena Failed, he was Booed as a BabyFace I've seen guys get demoted for less, and he got the Heel Cheered cause of his Heat of Selling Out but yet Vince kept pushing him down Our Throats for 10 Years.
Cause when The Chain Gang started booing him WWE started pushing him towards Kids and Casual Fans people who knew Jack about Wrestling and called them the C-Nation but it worked I guess but that whole Era if you was a Chain Gang Fan kinda left a Bad Taste in your Mouth.
John Cena, Sir is One of my Best Favourite WWE Super Star. And Triple HHH, Sir also.
People will appreciate him now that he’s gone, love or hate Cena carried that company for about a decade
Like the miz said in a segment. The fans don’t know whether to cheer or boo John Cena
Whether you wanted to see him get his ass kicked or wanted to see him win fans still showed up
I think because some got so used to him that they forgot how talented he was/is… The older I get the more I respect wrestlers (entertainers period or people in general)!
The mind of the buyer and the mind of the seller function so differently until they meet. Becoming a content creator/business owner showed me a different side to a lot of things surprisingly and it made me a better consumer.
John Cena, the name, is way more popular than WWE itself. There are people who haven't watched a single WWE match ever in their life and yet they happen to know John Cena. That's the popularity he has built with his legacy. There are gonna be debates who is the best WWE superstar ever. I mean c'mon with a popularity greater than the business itself, John Cena truly has rendered himself as the *GREATEST OF ALL TIME.*
When the guys selling arm bands, wrist bands, shirts, key chains, wallets etc every style every different month he’ll have merch sales lol
Cena is simply Goat 🐐 no one can replace him . He is a definition of " You miss me when I gone ".
GOAT ✨
When it's all said and done.. no matter how pure we wrestling fans are about everything else.. John Cena will be the only marquee to do it for more than 10 years straight at that level. Honestly... people my age (30+) continued to watch wrestling because of the hustle, the loyalty and the respect. He is the GOAT among GOATs.
It's like what Cena said to AJ Style like years ago, they hate him so much, but does everything in their power to be like him.
Fans literally hated him cause of how good he was
Either you die a hero or you live long enough to become a villen
Shout out to everyone that works out hard and stays alive passed 65
John Cena is in part a reason WWE got the massive Netflix deal. He's really WWE's greatest and most successful unpopular decision.
Mann imagine a prime Stone Cold vs prime Cena. Dream Match for the ages!
We had even better prime stone cold vs the rock undertaker Kane mankind etc etc
Let’s not waste a prime stone cold March with that trash
Idc what anyone says John cena is the definition of what it means to literally give your life to something you love, Love him or hate him you gotta give the man his respect
Cena sold more merch because of hats, wristbands, a custom spinner belt for him (U.S and WWE championship), a marketing team behind him cause multiple colors sold to kids (don’t like red? Here’s a green cena shirt), and a trademark on his birth name. Other than that yeah John cena is the highest seller in merchandise
And as Vince said “kids buy merch”