Happy asf to see you on the game again. I think the quick match change will bring a ton of people back . Def check out orange piccolo too that guy is SICKKK
ngl i love the critism and shit u have to say ab the game. cuz me personally im in love with its current state and there aint much i would like to change, but the shit u offer is always both helpful and unbiased and the devs are clearly listening.
Glad you're back, Lotus. I really enjoy your Sparking Zero content! Your gameplay is pretty chill and entertaining at the same time, I also get impressed how you guys can give your thoughts like that while playing against someone. I haven't bought Sparking Zero yet, but I'll give my thoughts based on the videos of the game that I've watched and as a long time Budokai Tenkaichi 3 fan. *Patch and DLC* 4:18 The new patch is really good. Slowly but surely, they're adressing what people were asking to be change/added. The major changes that caught my attention were: - _Grand Slash:_ In Tenkaichi 3, you were never able to repeat a move and reset a combo while the opponent was staggered/recovering from that same move. If you tried, they would just fall and the combo would drop. From what I've seen, no other variations could do this in Sparking Zero, except for Grand Slash, which was weird to begin with. So that's a pretty good change. - _Perception/Super Perception:_ From a lot of videos, people really liked to spam this defensive mechanic and you could hardly punish it. In Tenkaichi 3, it would decrease ki based of how long you held the inputs, but you couldn't do it again that fast and there was enough time to punish it. But now they added a ki consumption for activating it and increased the time to perform the move again. This is going in a great direction, where players now will have to play more carefully and not just mindless spam it. 23:40 -_Super Counter:_ Landing this defensive move successfully in Tenkaichi 3 is a struggle, since it had less of a frame window and also a cooldown if you didn't land it. I think adding a cooldown if you fail to do it is much better than making the timing tigher, specially in a online game. At least this encourages players to not spam it during combos and to actually time it. From videos I've seen, it's still fairly easy to do it in vanish wars. The DLC is also very awesome. The models, the animations, the dialogues...everything! But they really need to add new maps (Red Ribbon Base, at least) and new costumes (Krillin and Android 18 for example) to these DLCs. I thought about them adding Goten and Trunks, however they'd have a real problem coming up with a moveset for them, since they barely fought in the movie. They should've change that punch from Cell Max to his lasers, maybe functioning like an explosion. The punch is very generic to me... *Point of Transforming* 12:1826:16 In the older game, many people say that you get boosts to your stats if you transform instead just selecting the transformed character from the start. I tested a few characters with a lot of transformations in Tenkaichi 3, like Baby Vegeta and Frieza, but the damage, speed and ki charging stay the same in both cases... (correct me if I'm wrong). Maybe this only applies to fusions. I don't know if that changed in Sparking Zero... But I can name a few benefits to start in base. Many transformations grant you full bars of ki. In Tenkaichi 3, this opened up a lot of ways to combo. For example, if you just wasted all your ki on finishing your combo with a blast, you can tranform, regain your ki and do another blast attack. Or you can preserve the ki you gained from the transformation and keep the pressure on the opponent since you won't need to be charging your ki. *Sonic Sway while defending or getting hit* 15:25 From what I've seen, you can get Sonic Sway if you are blocking or timing it correctly when they attack you. If you do Perception before the opponent attacks you, you just hit them away. I don't have a problem with it... If you see you're opponent blocking, don't keep punching, but quickly try to do a Rush Chain Action. But I do have a problem when they are able to do it while they are getting hit (not blocking). This was not possible in Tenkaichi 3... *Having fun playing the game and people stop playing the game* 18:47 It's alright if you need to take a break or just not touch the game again. Better do that than force yourself and not have fun. I always play some other games when Tenkaichi 3 gets infuriating. I think focusing on online/ranked can really take the fun out of it though. Try some Episode Battles, Custom Battles or playing with friends. Personally, I have more fun with offline modes, and now with people creating scenarios, there are many possibilities (good ones and bad ones lol, be careful which ones you play). From what I've seen from _AreCreeps_ , he has found some versions that were showcased of the game that had a lot of scratched mechanics that resemble more of what Tenkaichi 3 was and really emphasized movement. I think Sparking Zero was rushed to launch at the same time as Dragon Ball Daima, and because of that they couldn't polish it that well... The hype was real for this game, and a lot of people stopped playing after encountering many problems that came with it. I also appreciate the patches the team is doing, but I agree with you that it will be hard for everybody to come back to play it. *Z Burst Dash* 26:36 In Tenkaichi 3, the cost of Z Burst Dash was always 2 bars of ki, but since flying in the game was already fast and didn't consume ki, it was justifiable to cost that much (rarely people used it too) For Sparking Zero, to approach your enemy without consuming ki is too slow, and the player will probably zone you out with ki blasts. If you want to approach them quickly, you need to spend ki and when you get to them, you are at a disadvantage. The best option was to use Z Burst Dash, but since the patch, it's a lot riskier. Having Z Burst Dash 1 bar of ki would be better at a gameplay point of view (it became a lot more defensive and people just stand a each side of the map charging their ki now) But my guess is they did that for people to use High Speed Rush more ( Hold R2+X , no directional inputs) which was made faster in that other patch from December.
yyeeaaa that is kinda crazy, the purpose of sonic sway is when you can predict the timing of an attack and counter it. imagine if Goku never analyzed his opponent when he fights and never countered at all he be losing so much more. if anything it makes the most sense to sway when blocking cuz thats the most cannon way they've analyzed their opponent in a fight.
Start out in Ultimate Gohan that way when you transform you get full ki and can immediately go into a Rush or Beam Super. Example: Knock your opp high up in the air, boost your Rush, deal damage, Transform, then either rush or beam. Plus if you're in Sparking, you can chain the Rush back to back. OR chain the rush into your Ult.
Also, I start out in base myself personally. That Superman like intro plus the transformation cutscenes are straight 🔥🔥🔥. I'm even warming up to the new Piccolo.
A Staple of Dragonball that looks cool and usually has the benefit of increasing your strength. Some games make them have different movesets as characters, most noted in this series which even gives you a HP bar for some characters. "gosh guys, I just dont understand why anyone would transform mid battle?" -Lotus. I love you man, but this gotta be one of your densest moments lol
Transformations only give you the hp bar you would have gotten if you started with it. There is no benefit to not starting transformed(nor should there be) other than wanting to watch the animation.
@@Anegornot true at all. First form frieza regens an entire bar of health on each transformation. Beast Gohan also gets full ki back instantly plus the health regen
Also for dp battles if you want a full team you have to transform mid match. If you choose beast Gohan transformed off rip it’s 10dp. Base form is only 4dp. So it’s a 4dp character that can transform into a 10dp character. That’s insane. You have no clue what you’re talking about😂
DOn't see how it's Ironic comment. KNew he'd come though, no one would see this if it was a normal comment. At any rate, I agreed it being cool IS a reason, but it does have benefits in and out of the fights.
One thing that should still be changed is vanish wars not being up to who has the most ki. If you timed it correctly with 0 ki in BT3, the vanish still happens but with no attack afterwards. Every character in the game should also do a bit less damage so one time with priority and an ult isn’t just an instant W and super counters should be even harder. Think it should be one frame less. Make them just as common as someone doing an electric in tekken😂
You were on of the first if not the first youtuber to call out that this game was not in a "good" state, your feedback was very important and it does come from a good place. Hope it continues and we help this game evolve into its true state as the best arena fighting game out there.
the love they give beast gohan with such a short showing vs well established other characters and even more unique ones like ssj4 vegeta just got the basics
Only thing I think about the criticism is that even when they make improvements to the game there is always more that people will want changed. The reason I think no game is ever at its best is because now that they can update games the more and longer people play it it will be more that they will ask for to be added or changed. They wouldn’t know to make all these changes they have made before millions of people put hundreds of hours into the game in the first week let alone through the first 4 months . I love the game and have since the release but maybe my view is different because I’m still with less than 50 hours played but I consume a lot of content like your videos and others so I’m seeing things that are complaints but I have not experienced them myself. For example I don’t play ranked because I’m stuck at B5 I just can’t get out so the things people do or did in high ranks I just haven’t seen. This is long winded but overall I think the game is still fun and I think so many people burnt them self out trying to get to Z in the first week
Only way anime or just games in general will be better is if we talk about wat we don’t like you have a platform to share yours and the community’s opinions from the people who want better thank you keep the good content coming
Bro don't mind the negativity, it's like you said; can't please everyone. Only followed quite recently, a few months ago, but you've quickly become probably my favorite Tuber and I relate to much of your Nerdcore standards. Keep doing you and putting on for the Blerds like us bro ✊ P.S. I'd love to play you in sparking or something sometime
At this point, im not entirely sure what more they could address with patches. Theres definitely a few things, like counter grabs being as free as sunlight, but at this point what major problems are still facing the game? What more can they do?
I'm not gonna lie I still think there's a ton more they could do. The game has improves significantly, but that doesn't mean we should settle. Things have gotten a lot better but I want to keep pushing them to make it the best possible version of itself and set a better standard for anime games because I want better for all of us. We deserve better. There's no reason the game couldn't have been in this state at release and other games should be AT LEAST this good moving forward. As for things they could still do? - Shouldn't be able to tech throws if you get grabbed during perception - Pausing the menu in training mode between matches should pause matchmaking - I honestly think they should revert the Z Burst Dash change cus I think that was a bad one. The extra ki cost was unnecessary and strengthened the lame/run away stall playstyle - Add Ki Sickness - More stages - Costumes for DLC characters The list goes on. Some minor, some more important, but I think they did a great job with the last two patches. I'd have to play more before I can really remember or acknowledge everything, but I do agree they hit on a lot of the most important things the game needed imo.
In my opinion u should be able to get sonic sways while blocking cus when your enemy is attacking while blocking there’s times when ur just stuck there to the point where if they attack you again you gonna get hit 😭,that sonic sway allows u to get them away from you.
nice video man beast Gohan VA is amazing, you're right about doing what you like because it's either you farm one game and burnout or have fun doing content I think the latter is always better.
Good to see you back on Sparking. I think qp was a great change but still need more things like modes, maps and actual customization. Dont know if this would be controversial or not but I think sparking should cost 2-3 skill counts. For 1 skill count you become immune to all ki blast, some characters get super armor, and unlimited vanishes .It feels like the match sometimes is just a race to whoever can spark first to get thier ult or you completely whoop somebody the entire match and they get off 1 lucky ultimate (which some are unblockable) and take off 2 health bars and win off of that which justs feels like you get cheated. And Y does revenge counter cost 2 and is practically usless while u can enter sparking up to 6 times in a row with no drawbacks. Maybe it would also make people engage in fights more instead of running just to get their ultimate. Just a change i think would make fights feel more head on
I mean some people don't go instantly into the transformation for either buff reasons or because it gives them key or it can regenerate life I forgot there's like some unknown invisible Buffs
It's wild that people can love a thing so much that they can't see the flaws in it. I like some stuff that is ass ... but I know it's ass.. like Black Widow in Rivals 😂
When it comes to transforming I think your stats increase upon transformation but there are also certain perks like Ultimate Gohan SH has a warp skill that you can land then transform into Beast Gohan get full ki and use the Beast Kick to rack up damage and gain a health bar so there is some strategy depending on the character
"you should not be able too get an sonic sway while guarding" i disagree with that but i also don.t mind if they did the change just too see but i feel like guard would lose even more value as an option at that point i also feel like they is a lot of things that can be improved on but i also think an decent amount of them needs an new version of the game ala sparking zero 2 (like an better story mode ect) i hope sparking zero is like the original tenkaichi series where i liked the first game the least and it just goes up from there(sparking zero is above tenkaichi 1 for me for sure by a lot)
I think the problem with people seeing your criticism as overly negative was simply due to the time it was happening at the game just came out everyone was heavy on the no balancing train without really understanding what that meant and then there was that terrible sparking zero review that came out a bit before the game did I think it fostered an environment where people didn’t want to criticize the game but it was something that was necessary for the game’s survival and someone had to be the one to start that conversation unfortunately that also meant getting a lot of ire and i think some of that resentment still lives in people despite the fact that the game is all the better for the changes that were made
from watching content creators I always see them say that being negative even if it's criticism is not good for algorithm it makes people don't wanna watch or something compared to being positive. like I remember a content creator on shorts and TikTok who answers questions about like America since hes an immigrant there it's mostly positive content like how good life there compared to 3rd world, one of the questions was why he doesn't encounter the crazy dangerous stuff we see about US his answer was that he does encounter these things he just doesn't make shorts/TikTok's about it because less people return to watch someone complaining idk if it's true idm watching you just talk about anime or games or manga, I guess it's people who would only watch you play specific games they dont wanna hear you criticize the thing they are excited about
I agree with the thing about sonic swaying while getting hit should be changed. If I've already landed some hits on you and you're staggering from that, why would it make sense that all of a sudden you "understand it now" and can just start weaving my shit? The blocking one does seem annoying, but at least it makes more sense because you're at least guarding against the hits, so you see them coming and can now see a pattern enough that you can go from guarding to outright dodging and counterattacking. I've lost track of the times I get a hit or two off on a friend then he just gets to weave my shit, but the same won't happen for me
personally I feel like a lot of people who hate on you for “complaining or having gripes” is 1 most people were abusing the mechs that made the game broken and 2 people who enjoy the game face value with all the negative and positive still enjoy the game for what it is and keep their negative opinions to themselves so seeing a content creator have so many opinions seems like whining to them
7:15 I really want to know how these peoples' brains work. How does saying you don't like something or just overall giving criticism automatically mean you're "whining and complaining". I swear you're the only youtuber I hear about this happening to.
I mean I would say it becomes, for a lack of a better term, "whining" when the criticism outnumbers the praise. That's just how I look at it. Edit: Oh also tone. I've seen this said about Lotus since the early DBFZ days, but the way he voices he criticisms is what a lot of people perceive as harsh, so it makes it seem more like hate then normal
I think the only things I want changed in the game is 1. In sparking mode your not able to do more then 1 super move, it’s either ultimate , rush , or blast. None of that get blasted then into an ultimate that instantly kos u 2. Makes grabs a lot faster and shorten the window to tech then 3. Of your in singles and u transform there shouldn’t be extra healing , keep the same health also the same ki That’s it really
@LotusAsakura I completely understand where you’re coming from when it comes to sonic swaying off of blocking, but it opens up the game to a new situation you wouldn’t have before. Since the answer to people blocking into perception is to high speed movement, or to empty vanish behind them. It punishes the person for using perception. Now they can do it back if they react fast enough, and punish you if you don’t react back. Or you could read there reaction and punish with a ki blast while moving sideways. Or they could use a smash attack to armor and punish ur key blast. You could also sidestep there smash attack. My point is there’s a mini game that opens up bc block into perception is optimal, and because it encourages a fast paced and advanced situation to occur which is my favorite part of the gameplay. I’d love to know what you think about it though EDIT: YOU SHOULDNT GET SONIC SWAY WHILE GETTING HIT, thats just stupid 😂
im excited to see u get back brother would love to play with you 😊 of course i understand if u don’t like it thats completely okay don’t let the negative comments get to you
They can only sonic sway while blocking for weaker characters also important reason for transforming. Aside from the more access to moves across transformations.
I think they should buff Skill Buff Effects. Like how SSJ4's buff now restores ki, I think skills like Finish Sign, Sayian Spirit etc. should also restore ki(1 or 2 bars) in order to make those skills much more viable than they are now.
I don't think any other dragon ball game gets held to such an absurdly high standard as this one for some reason. I never seen people complain about balancing on Ninja Storm series or other arena fighters. I never heard someone say, "finally feel that this game is being released" whenever xenoverse had updates. Maybe only FighterZ, but still feel it wasn't harped on as much.
12:52 a lot of characters can do that actually I main ssj2 teen gohan and while I’m in sparking I like to do his rush attack and then his ult or his kamehameha after
I dont know if "pausing while matchmaking" is a thing. Most online Multip games have it to where when you're queued up you're waiting to join a match. If you have to "pause" it to take care of certain scenarios. It's probably best to just un ready then, if you're complaint is "the put you into matches too quickly"
Complaining about getting into matches too quickly would be extremely stupid lol. I really wish you guys didn't throw that word around so loosely. That's not even close to what I was trying to say. Also every game that I PERSONALLY play has a pause feature for queue.
Glad the game is shaping up to be more of what you wanted. And to be real, if people didn't stay vocal about issues games have, they would never improve...
These updates should have been at launch honestly cuzz really when I grinded to Z rank it was prob the most miserable experience ever just like the seereax I’m never touching rank ever again even if the game does improve more
He would have the extra bar if he started in beast to begin with. All he did was waste skill counters. Transforming mid fight offers nothing In single battle. Just looks cool.
@ well I know that but I was thinking about the benefits of it being dp battle(edit) I know he’s running singles but he asked about the benefits and that’s the benefit
Gotta say, I disagree on the sonic sway while blocking comment. It makes sense, you’re on defense snd it switches offense back into your hands as long as you time the input. It also promotes higher level play because if you couldn’t technically someone could/would just stay blocking endlessly because you can space out button delay and keep attacking then until they stop blocking or try to super counter or revenge counter. It gives the defender a way to end the abuse and not get locked into an endless string if they time button input
Okay. Rather than saying you shouldn't be able to Sonic Sway while blocking, I think the window for getting a Sonic Sway should be a bit tighter. There are plenty of strings with gaps in them that allow you take do something to take your turn back so it makes sense. It just feels like a pretty high reward you get for mashing the mechanic blindly instead of truly trying to time it at all and I just find that annoying. Strings in this game aren't nearly as oppressive as other fighting games though. Pressure is actually pretty weak relatively speaking in my opinion lol. It doesn't take much blocking before you get to take your turn back or push a button or move so I strongly disagree that it's a necessity, but do agree that its existence is fine. Should just take a bit more skill.
It's completely normal to want to complain. Nothing is perfect, and if people don't want to hear complaining, then they should just stay off the internet, because we love to complain lol. My mindset on this is that there will be people who dislike the things I do or there will always be someone with that negative comment, and I'm just fortunate that most of them keep it to themself, so I just don't worry about it.
Oh shit, i'd love to see you and afro's rusty asses duke it out, or like a few rounds of tourneys with him and the three idiots would be a content farm, or do tourneys with everybody in the "squad" channel
I truly think that they are pushing the limits of the purpose of dlc. What i mean by that is I feel like this whole dlc pack should have been in the game to begin with but instead they charge you 70 dollars for the game and then turn around 3 months later and charge you like 23 or 24 dollars including tax for 11 new characters which there is multiple of the same characters like piccolo and dragon ball daima should be the first dlc honestly but no its a whole new dlc on top of this one so with the game and this dlc we stand at like 95 dollars and then the daima dlc will prolly be another 20 or more so thats 115 dollars like thats a hell of a lot of money they are just milking us for our money and giving us less quality games over all and fixing them as they put out dlc and what not just so they can make more money and do less work over all its getting to be to damn mych
Thats brazy man lol. But yeah I feel though you speak constructive on the game. Bc its one thing to overly hate and overly love. Theres always a middle. like the content.
Regardless of whether or not I personally agree with your criticism- of this or any other game- I still think that your thoughts are almost always well thought out and usually made in good faith. Which is more than I can say for some of the fuckin' haters in the comments.
Personally I am a little confused on what you mean by it's not perfect yet because I don't know what this game looks like when it's quote on quote perfect. Especially now that has tweaks I'm not against the improvements I also like them it's just what is perfect. Because I know me and you are both on team they shouldn't have changed the homing attack I also like that they stopped the sweep cheesing strategy Fury and the only other thing that I can see you like really wanting some improvements on is either getting rid of super counters because with connections and input problems it becomes infuriating. And I don't really have a true solution for the stalling problem
So you know Lotus has been away from the game because that's basically part of one of the meadows of the game is not to go for the ultimate but go for maybe one quick hit combo into like two different specials
I dont consider it complaining unless a person is complaining about ridiculous things. I think the one disappointment about the current game is no new maps and them with the audacity to bring 1 costume to the game lol
Hype and quality essentially makes an amazing combo that can hook everyone on a game for years. Unfortunately, it seems sparking Zero missed the timing and spent all of it's hype. If nothing else, it should be much more fun for the diehard's that stuck around.
Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Christ When they were promoting sparking zero they said there was going to be three types of characters, power and speed. Beast Gohan is a speed type character so find a character whose balance who can counter him.
12:55 you been gone for a while while huh😭just about everyone can double super from the sparking state Edit: also (donno if you noticed) your opponent usually has more ki than you because you’re burst dashing to them. That takes a much larger chunk of ki now
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Happy asf to see you on the game again. I think the quick match change will bring a ton of people back . Def check out orange piccolo too that guy is SICKKK
The benefit to transforming is that it's awesome
Exactly
Full ki too
Fair enough!
@@LotusAsakurau also get some health back and a full ki
@@LotusAsakura U get a full health bar and full ki. Some characters have really useful transformations, like Broly (Super) too.
ngl i love the critism and shit u have to say ab the game. cuz me personally im in love with its current state and there aint much i would like to change, but the shit u offer is always both helpful and unbiased and the devs are clearly listening.
I usually like transforming mid battle because it looks so good lmao
The matches were you get so into the battle you forget to transform>>>😂😂
Glad you're back, Lotus. I really enjoy your Sparking Zero content! Your gameplay is pretty chill and entertaining at the same time, I also get impressed how you guys can give your thoughts like that while playing against someone.
I haven't bought Sparking Zero yet, but I'll give my thoughts based on the videos of the game that I've watched and as a long time Budokai Tenkaichi 3 fan.
*Patch and DLC*
4:18 The new patch is really good. Slowly but surely, they're adressing what people were asking to be change/added. The major changes that caught my attention were:
- _Grand Slash:_ In Tenkaichi 3, you were never able to repeat a move and reset a combo while the opponent was staggered/recovering from that same move. If you tried, they would just fall and the combo would drop. From what I've seen, no other variations could do this in Sparking Zero, except for Grand Slash, which was weird to begin with. So that's a pretty good change.
- _Perception/Super Perception:_ From a lot of videos, people really liked to spam this defensive mechanic and you could hardly punish it. In Tenkaichi 3, it would decrease ki based of how long you held the inputs, but you couldn't do it again that fast and there was enough time to punish it.
But now they added a ki consumption for activating it and increased the time to perform the move again. This is going in a great direction, where players now will have to play more carefully and not just mindless spam it.
23:40 -_Super Counter:_ Landing this defensive move successfully in Tenkaichi 3 is a struggle, since it had less of a frame window and also a cooldown if you didn't land it. I think adding a cooldown if you fail to do it is much better than making the timing tigher, specially in a online game. At least this encourages players to not spam it during combos and to actually time it.
From videos I've seen, it's still fairly easy to do it in vanish wars.
The DLC is also very awesome. The models, the animations, the dialogues...everything! But they really need to add new maps (Red Ribbon Base, at least) and new costumes (Krillin and Android 18 for example) to these DLCs. I thought about them adding Goten and Trunks, however they'd have a real problem coming up with a moveset for them, since they barely fought in the movie.
They should've change that punch from Cell Max to his lasers, maybe functioning like an explosion. The punch is very generic to me...
*Point of Transforming*
12:18 26:16 In the older game, many people say that you get boosts to your stats if you transform instead just selecting the transformed character from the start. I tested a few characters with a lot of transformations in Tenkaichi 3, like Baby Vegeta and Frieza, but the damage, speed and ki charging stay the same in both cases... (correct me if I'm wrong). Maybe this only applies to fusions.
I don't know if that changed in Sparking Zero...
But I can name a few benefits to start in base. Many transformations grant you full bars of ki. In Tenkaichi 3, this opened up a lot of ways to combo. For example, if you just wasted all your ki on finishing your combo with a blast, you can tranform, regain your ki and do another blast attack. Or you can preserve the ki you gained from the transformation and keep the pressure on the opponent since you won't need to be charging your ki.
*Sonic Sway while defending or getting hit*
15:25 From what I've seen, you can get Sonic Sway if you are blocking or timing it correctly when they attack you. If you do Perception before the opponent attacks you, you just hit them away. I don't have a problem with it... If you see you're opponent blocking, don't keep punching, but quickly try to do a Rush Chain Action.
But I do have a problem when they are able to do it while they are getting hit (not blocking). This was not possible in Tenkaichi 3...
*Having fun playing the game and people stop playing the game*
18:47 It's alright if you need to take a break or just not touch the game again. Better do that than force yourself and not have fun. I always play some other games when Tenkaichi 3 gets infuriating.
I think focusing on online/ranked can really take the fun out of it though. Try some Episode Battles, Custom Battles or playing with friends. Personally, I have more fun with offline modes, and now with people creating scenarios, there are many possibilities (good ones and bad ones lol, be careful which ones you play).
From what I've seen from _AreCreeps_ , he has found some versions that were showcased of the game that had a lot of scratched mechanics that resemble more of what Tenkaichi 3 was and really emphasized movement. I think Sparking Zero was rushed to launch at the same time as Dragon Ball Daima, and because of that they couldn't polish it that well...
The hype was real for this game, and a lot of people stopped playing after encountering many problems that came with it. I also appreciate the patches the team is doing, but I agree with you that it will be hard for everybody to come back to play it.
*Z Burst Dash*
26:36 In Tenkaichi 3, the cost of Z Burst Dash was always 2 bars of ki, but since flying in the game was already fast and didn't consume ki, it was justifiable to cost that much (rarely people used it too)
For Sparking Zero, to approach your enemy without consuming ki is too slow, and the player will probably zone you out with ki blasts. If you want to approach them quickly, you need to spend ki and when you get to them, you are at a disadvantage. The best option was to use Z Burst Dash, but since the patch, it's a lot riskier.
Having Z Burst Dash 1 bar of ki would be better at a gameplay point of view (it became a lot more defensive and people just stand a each side of the map charging their ki now)
But my guess is they did that for people to use High Speed Rush more ( Hold R2+X , no directional inputs) which was made faster in that other patch from December.
Just was saying I agree with pretty much everything you said, damn you wrote an essay though lmao
@@SaigoRyoko-sha Guess i got too excited when i was writing this lol.
Thanks for reading tho
yyeeaaa that is kinda crazy, the purpose of sonic sway is when you can predict the timing of an attack and counter it. imagine if Goku never analyzed his opponent when he fights and never countered at all he be losing so much more. if anything it makes the most sense to sway when blocking cuz thats the most cannon way they've analyzed their opponent in a fight.
Start out in Ultimate Gohan that way when you transform you get full ki and can immediately go into a Rush or Beam Super. Example: Knock your opp high up in the air, boost your Rush, deal damage, Transform, then either rush or beam. Plus if you're in Sparking, you can chain the Rush back to back. OR chain the rush into your Ult.
Also, I start out in base myself personally. That Superman like intro plus the transformation cutscenes are straight 🔥🔥🔥. I'm even warming up to the new Piccolo.
When characters like beast Gohan, UI, and Jiren transform they gain Health back like 75% of bar 17:50
A Staple of Dragonball that looks cool and usually has the benefit of increasing your strength. Some games make them have different movesets as characters, most noted in this series which even gives you a HP bar for some characters.
"gosh guys, I just dont understand why anyone would transform mid battle?" -Lotus. I love you man, but this gotta be one of your densest moments lol
Transformations only give you the hp bar you would have gotten if you started with it. There is no benefit to not starting transformed(nor should there be) other than wanting to watch the animation.
@@Anegornot true at all. First form frieza regens an entire bar of health on each transformation. Beast Gohan also gets full ki back instantly plus the health regen
Also for dp battles if you want a full team you have to transform mid match. If you choose beast Gohan transformed off rip it’s 10dp. Base form is only 4dp.
So it’s a 4dp character that can transform into a 10dp character. That’s insane. You have no clue what you’re talking about😂
This is such an ironic comment.
DOn't see how it's Ironic comment. KNew he'd come though, no one would see this if it was a normal comment. At any rate, I agreed it being cool IS a reason, but it does have benefits in and out of the fights.
Yooo finally you’re back on sparking zero bro been waiting for this shit lol
One thing that should still be changed is vanish wars not being up to who has the most ki. If you timed it correctly with 0 ki in BT3, the vanish still happens but with no attack afterwards. Every character in the game should also do a bit less damage so one time with priority and an ult isn’t just an instant W and super counters should be even harder. Think it should be one frame less. Make them just as common as someone doing an electric in tekken😂
You were on of the first if not the first youtuber to call out that this game was not in a "good" state, your feedback was very important and it does come from a good place. Hope it continues and we help this game evolve into its true state as the best arena fighting game out there.
the love they give beast gohan with such a short showing vs well established other characters and even more unique ones like ssj4 vegeta just got the basics
Only thing I think about the criticism is that even when they make improvements to the game there is always more that people will want changed. The reason I think no game is ever at its best is because now that they can update games the more and longer people play it it will be more that they will ask for to be added or changed. They wouldn’t know to make all these changes they have made before millions of people put hundreds of hours into the game in the first week let alone through the first 4 months . I love the game and have since the release but maybe my view is different because I’m still with less than 50 hours played but I consume a lot of content like your videos and others so I’m seeing things that are complaints but I have not experienced them myself. For example I don’t play ranked because I’m stuck at B5 I just can’t get out so the things people do or did in high ranks I just haven’t seen. This is long winded but overall I think the game is still fun and I think so many people burnt them self out trying to get to Z in the first week
Love your content man, welcome back!!! Gotta try orange piccolo, most fun I’ve had since release
Only way anime or just games in general will be better is if we talk about wat we don’t like you have a platform to share yours and the community’s opinions from the people who want better thank you keep the good content coming
Bro don't mind the negativity, it's like you said; can't please everyone. Only followed quite recently, a few months ago, but you've quickly become probably my favorite Tuber and I relate to much of your Nerdcore standards. Keep doing you and putting on for the Blerds like us bro ✊ P.S. I'd love to play you in sparking or something sometime
At this point, im not entirely sure what more they could address with patches. Theres definitely a few things, like counter grabs being as free as sunlight, but at this point what major problems are still facing the game? What more can they do?
I'm not gonna lie I still think there's a ton more they could do. The game has improves significantly, but that doesn't mean we should settle. Things have gotten a lot better but I want to keep pushing them to make it the best possible version of itself and set a better standard for anime games because I want better for all of us. We deserve better. There's no reason the game couldn't have been in this state at release and other games should be AT LEAST this good moving forward. As for things they could still do?
- Shouldn't be able to tech throws if you get grabbed during perception
- Pausing the menu in training mode between matches should pause matchmaking
- I honestly think they should revert the Z Burst Dash change cus I think that was a bad one. The extra ki cost was unnecessary and strengthened the lame/run away stall playstyle
- Add Ki Sickness
- More stages
- Costumes for DLC characters
The list goes on. Some minor, some more important, but I think they did a great job with the last two patches. I'd have to play more before I can really remember or acknowledge everything, but I do agree they hit on a lot of the most important things the game needed imo.
Customer super attack movesets
Bro, your enemy tranforms midmatch because it's fun! There's a lot of us that play this as a DB simulator first and foremost.
In my opinion u should be able to get sonic sways while blocking cus when your enemy is attacking while blocking there’s times when ur just stuck there to the point where if they attack you again you gonna get hit 😭,that sonic sway allows u to get them away from you.
nice video man beast Gohan VA is amazing, you're right about doing what you like because it's either you farm one game and burnout or have fun doing content I think the latter is always better.
Good to see you back on Sparking. I think qp was a great change but still need more things like modes, maps and actual customization. Dont know if this would be controversial or not but I think sparking should cost 2-3 skill counts. For 1 skill count you become immune to all ki blast, some characters get super armor, and unlimited vanishes .It feels like the match sometimes is just a race to whoever can spark first to get thier ult or you completely whoop somebody the entire match and they get off 1 lucky ultimate (which some are unblockable) and take off 2 health bars and win off of that which justs feels like you get cheated. And Y does revenge counter cost 2 and is practically usless while u can enter sparking up to 6 times in a row with no drawbacks. Maybe it would also make people engage in fights more instead of running just to get their ultimate. Just a change i think would make fights feel more head on
So glad you came back gang
I mean some people don't go instantly into the transformation for either buff reasons or because it gives them key or it can regenerate life I forgot there's like some unknown invisible Buffs
i’ve been waiting for this let’s go
12:23 transforming gave him a entire health bar
Starting in Beast already gives u an extra health bar w/o having to use Skill Points. Transforming is just to be cool
Yea there is no reason to start untransformed in single battle nor should there be
@@Anegoryou also get full ki when he transforms
"YOU'RE WIDE OPEN.....RIGHT THERE!" Man I was like a yo wtf
It's wild that people can love a thing so much that they can't see the flaws in it. I like some stuff that is ass ... but I know it's ass.. like Black Widow in Rivals 😂
When it comes to transforming I think your stats increase upon transformation but there are also certain perks like Ultimate Gohan SH has a warp skill that you can land then transform into Beast Gohan get full ki and use the Beast Kick to rack up damage and gain a health bar so there is some strategy depending on the character
I definitely think there’s a stat increase
"you should not be able too get an sonic sway while guarding" i disagree with that but i also don.t mind if they did the change just too see but i feel like guard would lose even more value as an option at that point
i also feel like they is a lot of things that can be improved on but i also think an decent amount of them needs an new version of the game ala sparking zero 2 (like an better story mode ect) i hope sparking zero is like the original tenkaichi series where i liked the first game the least and it just goes up from there(sparking zero is above tenkaichi 1 for me for sure by a lot)
It'd be cool to see them do dp based ranked solos where it queues you against similar dp characters
Also Beast Gohan can do his rush super (if you don’t boost it) then the ultimate to follow up
Lotus always has some of the most fye thumbnails whenever I checkout a video 🔥🔥🔥
I do my best
Good games bro definitely want some more games from you I like watching it
I think the problem with people seeing your criticism as overly negative was simply due to the time it was happening at the game just came out everyone was heavy on the no balancing train without really understanding what that meant and then there was that terrible sparking zero review that came out a bit before the game did
I think it fostered an environment where people didn’t want to criticize the game but it was something that was necessary for the game’s survival and someone had to be the one to start that conversation unfortunately that also meant getting a lot of ire and i think some of that resentment still lives in people despite the fact that the game is all the better for the changes that were made
I agree with no sonic sway while getting hit but I think it kinda makes sense to be able to do it while blocking
Man it's nice not seeing Lotus crash out on the perception spamming bs you'd see before the patch
The amount of buffs u get from transforming in the stats alone makes it worth it aside from cinema
keep up the good work man
Thanks, appreciate it!
from watching content creators I always see them say that being negative even if it's criticism is not good for algorithm it makes people don't wanna watch or something compared to being positive.
like I remember a content creator on shorts and TikTok who answers questions about like America since hes an immigrant there it's mostly positive content like how good life there compared to 3rd world, one of the questions was why he doesn't encounter the crazy dangerous stuff we see about US his answer was that he does encounter these things he just doesn't make shorts/TikTok's about it because less people return to watch someone complaining
idk if it's true idm watching you just talk about anime or games or manga, I guess it's people who would only watch you play specific games they dont wanna hear you criticize the thing they are excited about
I agree with the thing about sonic swaying while getting hit should be changed. If I've already landed some hits on you and you're staggering from that, why would it make sense that all of a sudden you "understand it now" and can just start weaving my shit? The blocking one does seem annoying, but at least it makes more sense because you're at least guarding against the hits, so you see them coming and can now see a pattern enough that you can go from guarding to outright dodging and counterattacking. I've lost track of the times I get a hit or two off on a friend then he just gets to weave my shit, but the same won't happen for me
personally I feel like a lot of people who hate on you for “complaining or having gripes” is 1 most people were abusing the mechs that made the game broken and 2 people who enjoy the game face value with all the negative and positive still enjoy the game for what it is and keep their negative opinions to themselves so seeing a content creator have so many opinions seems like whining to them
7:15 I really want to know how these peoples' brains work. How does saying you don't like something or just overall giving criticism automatically mean you're "whining and complaining". I swear you're the only youtuber I hear about this happening to.
Its most communities at this point and quite sad to see
I mean I would say it becomes, for a lack of a better term, "whining" when the criticism outnumbers the praise. That's just how I look at it.
Edit: Oh also tone. I've seen this said about Lotus since the early DBFZ days, but the way he voices he criticisms is what a lot of people perceive as harsh, so it makes it seem more like hate then normal
More sparking content plz only sparking creator I can watch fr
I think the only things I want changed in the game is 1. In sparking mode your not able to do more then 1 super move, it’s either ultimate , rush , or blast. None of that get blasted then into an ultimate that instantly kos u
2. Makes grabs a lot faster and shorten the window to tech then
3. Of your in singles and u transform there shouldn’t be extra healing , keep the same health also the same ki
That’s it really
"FIRST DUBSKI ON DA BOARD" new fav
Yo lotus great vid love the content.
Would love to see you try out dragonball fusion world digital
I actually did try it out when it release, but I never made content on it. The game just didn't stick for me. I appreciate the support though!
@LotusAsakura
I completely understand where you’re coming from when it comes to sonic swaying off of blocking, but it opens up the game to a new situation you wouldn’t have before.
Since the answer to people blocking into perception is to high speed movement, or to empty vanish behind them. It punishes the person for using perception. Now they can do it back if they react fast enough, and punish you if you don’t react back. Or you could read there reaction and punish with a ki blast while moving sideways. Or they could use a smash attack to armor and punish ur key blast. You could also sidestep there smash attack.
My point is there’s a mini game that opens up bc block into perception is optimal, and because it encourages a fast paced and advanced situation to occur which is my favorite part of the gameplay.
I’d love to know what you think about it though
EDIT: YOU SHOULDNT GET SONIC SWAY WHILE GETTING HIT, thats just stupid 😂
Yeah they gotta fix the Sonic Sway weird interactions, but I think it's because the characters armor, when there is big difference in power levels.
Transforming into beast gives full Ki
big fan broski
Hopefully you continue to play if you feel up to it 😊
im excited to see u get back brother would love to play with you 😊 of course i understand if u don’t like it thats completely okay don’t let the negative comments get to you
They can only sonic sway while blocking for weaker characters also important reason for transforming. Aside from the more access to moves across transformations.
@17:12 that's exactly how I feel about Gaypex Legends lol.
I think they should buff Skill Buff Effects. Like how SSJ4's buff now restores ki, I think skills like Finish Sign, Sayian Spirit etc. should also restore ki(1 or 2 bars) in order to make those skills much more viable than they are now.
I don't think any other dragon ball game gets held to such an absurdly high standard as this one for some reason. I never seen people complain about balancing on Ninja Storm series or other arena fighters. I never heard someone say, "finally feel that this game is being released" whenever xenoverse had updates. Maybe only FighterZ, but still feel it wasn't harped on as much.
12:52 a lot of characters can do that actually I main ssj2 teen gohan and while I’m in sparking I like to do his rush attack and then his ult or his kamehameha after
I dont know if "pausing while matchmaking" is a thing. Most online Multip games have it to where when you're queued up you're waiting to join a match. If you have to "pause" it to take care of certain scenarios. It's probably best to just un ready then, if you're complaint is "the put you into matches too quickly"
Complaining about getting into matches too quickly would be extremely stupid lol. I really wish you guys didn't throw that word around so loosely. That's not even close to what I was trying to say. Also every game that I PERSONALLY play has a pause feature for queue.
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Good Video Bro
We need more Vids of sparking once your having fun bro
Would love to see some of the new Piccolo too
Glad the game is shaping up to be more of what you wanted. And to be real, if people didn't stay vocal about issues games have, they would never improve...
I love just using base gohan and slowly transforming until i reach beast
Didn’t know I liked this guy cause he never post gameplay. lol. Sick bid
Transforming into beast restores your health and gives you full ki. That’s why people choose base
Both sh Gohan and piccolo fit right into my main team and play style this dlc be cooking and transforming gices health on certain characters
We’re so back 😭
Guys I think Gohan can read you like a book
Alright lets see what the rant runtime is with this game 😂
These updates should have been at launch honestly cuzz really when I grinded to Z rank it was prob the most miserable experience ever just like the seereax I’m never touching rank ever again even if the game does improve more
Damn he got like a bar of health back tho honestly 12:20
He would have the extra bar if he started in beast to begin with. All he did was waste skill counters. Transforming mid fight offers nothing In single battle. Just looks cool.
@ well I know that but I was thinking about the benefits of it being dp battle(edit) I know he’s running singles but he asked about the benefits and that’s the benefit
It also regen whole ki bar so you can chain 2 specials@@Anegor
Gotta say, I disagree on the sonic sway while blocking comment.
It makes sense, you’re on defense snd it switches offense back into your hands as long as you time the input. It also promotes higher level play because if you couldn’t technically someone could/would just stay blocking endlessly because you can space out button delay and keep attacking then until they stop blocking or try to super counter or revenge counter.
It gives the defender a way to end the abuse and not get locked into an endless string if they time button input
Okay. Rather than saying you shouldn't be able to Sonic Sway while blocking, I think the window for getting a Sonic Sway should be a bit tighter. There are plenty of strings with gaps in them that allow you take do something to take your turn back so it makes sense. It just feels like a pretty high reward you get for mashing the mechanic blindly instead of truly trying to time it at all and I just find that annoying.
Strings in this game aren't nearly as oppressive as other fighting games though. Pressure is actually pretty weak relatively speaking in my opinion lol. It doesn't take much blocking before you get to take your turn back or push a button or move so I strongly disagree that it's a necessity, but do agree that its existence is fine. Should just take a bit more skill.
Happy for quick matches, but that should have been a basic thing that came in the base game.
Bruh they need to make an arcade mode like they did in BT3
Beast gohan on transformation gets full ki meter Like the brolys and health back like cell and frieza
It's completely normal to want to complain. Nothing is perfect, and if people don't want to hear complaining, then they should just stay off the internet, because we love to complain lol. My mindset on this is that there will be people who dislike the things I do or there will always be someone with that negative comment, and I'm just fortunate that most of them keep it to themself, so I just don't worry about it.
7:30 the fact you can "vent" while beating this 🥷🏽is crazy😂😂😂you got back into the game real quick
Oh shit, i'd love to see you and afro's rusty asses duke it out, or like a few rounds of tourneys with him and the three idiots would be a content farm, or do tourneys with everybody in the "squad" channel
most ppl just wanna see u play the game, majority dont care what u have to say about it and its pretty sad but real.
I truly think that they are pushing the limits of the purpose of dlc. What i mean by that is I feel like this whole dlc pack should have been in the game to begin with but instead they charge you 70 dollars for the game and then turn around 3 months later and charge you like 23 or 24 dollars including tax for 11 new characters which there is multiple of the same characters like piccolo and dragon ball daima should be the first dlc honestly but no its a whole new dlc on top of this one so with the game and this dlc we stand at like 95 dollars and then the daima dlc will prolly be another 20 or more so thats 115 dollars like thats a hell of a lot of money they are just milking us for our money and giving us less quality games over all and fixing them as they put out dlc and what not just so they can make more money and do less work over all its getting to be to damn mych
Thats brazy man lol. But yeah I feel though you speak constructive on the game. Bc its one thing to overly hate and overly love. Theres always a middle. like the content.
Yo Lotus, have you seen stuff for the FLCL Reanimated project?
They should’ve added a 2v2 mode . No one wants to play one on one all the time . Sometimes you want to go online and play with your friends vs others
How does recovery work in this game? The more hits or more damage taken = faster recovery? Is it a timing thing? Last hit dependent?
Regardless of whether or not I personally agree with your criticism- of this or any other game- I still think that your thoughts are almost always well thought out and usually made in good faith.
Which is more than I can say for some of the fuckin' haters in the comments.
ay I really appreciate that lol
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About time!!!!
Yo lotus can you please stream on RUclips again please 🙏🏾 😅😭
I will!
Boosting the video
Personally I am a little confused on what you mean by it's not perfect yet because I don't know what this game looks like when it's quote on quote perfect. Especially now that has tweaks I'm not against the improvements I also like them it's just what is perfect. Because I know me and you are both on team they shouldn't have changed the homing attack I also like that they stopped the sweep cheesing strategy Fury and the only other thing that I can see you like really wanting some improvements on is either getting rid of super counters because with connections and input problems it becomes infuriating. And I don't really have a true solution for the stalling problem
Anyone know the song that’s playing in the background during matches?
90% of people on Steam stop playing the game and it’s in the top 10 most played games on PlayStation where it’s sold the most copies.
So you know Lotus has been away from the game because that's basically part of one of the meadows of the game is not to go for the ultimate but go for maybe one quick hit combo into like two different specials
I dont consider it complaining unless a person is complaining about ridiculous things. I think the one disappointment about the current game is no new maps and them with the audacity to bring 1 costume to the game lol
Hype and quality essentially makes an amazing combo that can hook everyone on a game for years. Unfortunately, it seems sparking Zero missed the timing and spent all of it's hype. If nothing else, it should be much more fun for the diehard's that stuck around.
Blast volley moves are still ass. No pausing queue. But I do agree that the game is in a better place
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When they were promoting sparking zero they said there was going to be three types of characters, power and speed. Beast Gohan is a speed type character so find a character whose balance who can counter him.
12:55 you been gone for a while while huh😭just about everyone can double super from the sparking state
Edit: also (donno if you noticed) your opponent usually has more ki than you because you’re burst dashing to them. That takes a much larger chunk of ki now