How to Assemble and Install an Outside Gutter Miter

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @jeffkilpatrick9742
    @jeffkilpatrick9742 2 года назад +2

    I’ve watched this video at least 20 times!

  • @flipitygibet
    @flipitygibet 10 лет назад +1

    Zip screws, rivets, touch up paint; really who gives a crap about what is used, use what you think is right for you. Top videos Mark, thank you for sharing your expertise. It is the craftsmanship I am interested in and how you cut those damn angles. Well done mate. Keep up the great work.

  • @johnthejeepguy6720
    @johnthejeepguy6720 12 лет назад +1

    Hi...
    Thank you for your time to make this video.
    I have posted it on my fb page for ya..
    I have installed gutters for over 15 years & have never used a chop saw period.
    The only difference there is between hand mitered corners and strip mitered corners is the time and finished product.
    Hand mitered corners tend to look cleaner however the touch up paint looks flat and faded after a few years...
    The strip mitered corners will go on faster but wont save you much in cash as you must buy them!

  • @hoochipappie75
    @hoochipappie75 11 лет назад +3

    I learned alot..and ive done siding and gutters for 20 yrs..dont listen to these idiots...you do good work as long as YOUR customers are happy thats all that matters..

  • @merlingeikie
    @merlingeikie 5 лет назад +3

    Top notch video, well explained and walked through. Your work is well thought out and of superb economical quality.

  • @gutteruniversity
    @gutteruniversity  12 лет назад

    Well said, John. You are absolutely correct that touch-up paint tends to fade and look flat after a few years. As I'm sure you know, the extent of the fading varies a great deal. Some paints fade into a hideous light green color after a short period of time, while others hardly fade at all. I recommend looking around at houses in your area to try to determine which distributors have the best product. You will see some finishes that are really bad, and some that are pristine even when old.

  • @Everythinggutter
    @Everythinggutter 11 лет назад +2

    Thanks this was a perfect video very easy to understand!!!!!

  • @pamelakaplan617
    @pamelakaplan617 3 года назад

    Excellent video.... can't wait to do this!

  • @JM-Teran
    @JM-Teran 11 лет назад +1

    True craftsman. Thanks mark.

  • @tylermcgonigal6031
    @tylermcgonigal6031 9 лет назад +1

    can you make a video talking about your tools / tool belt / what you carry on you or other equipment, etc.

  • @LuisAguilar-zd8dh
    @LuisAguilar-zd8dh 5 лет назад +2

    I work doing gutters and I do not put screws on the bottom of the gutter more possible licks or hit it on the front part of the gutter my corners stay flush with out hitting it

  • @anthonyhall4427
    @anthonyhall4427 2 года назад

    I'm curious on what side do you choose to do the tabs . I'm a siding guy by the way (30+ years). When it comes to wrapping fascia I want my seams to face the less traffic area to where it seems "seamless " .I guess my question is do yall gutter guys go by the same strategy

    • @gutteruniversity
      @gutteruniversity  2 года назад

      No, we typically don’t think that way, Anthony. We usually have the tabbed side of the gutter on the right side of a piece of gutter (looking at the piece of gutter from the front), simply because it’s easier to tab the side that comes out of the machine first.
      At my company we do try to have all pieces tabbed the same way, because it’s easier to make really consistent looking miters if you always do them exactly the same way. And, since the template always has a few imperfections, the miters can look slightly different if you are swapping the side of the gutter that you are putting tabs on

  • @brianaldridge5272
    @brianaldridge5272 9 лет назад +2

    Areas where touch up paint is used will look bad in a year or so, so in the long run better to not paint. Screws will also rust. Aluminum rivets is the way to go. Having said that, your work is excellent.

  • @davidbeveridge
    @davidbeveridge 7 лет назад +1

    Reasonably good but a small suggestion. If you take a piece of trough and chop it at 45 degrees with chop saw you will see exactly what profile you should start with. It will have a lot more shape than yours. This would then be used to as a basis to make a final template. Our corners fit together with almost zero gap anywhere.

  • @briancavaliero4584
    @briancavaliero4584 9 лет назад +2

    Instead of hitting the gutter to round over the corner with the pair of snips, could you use a hard plastic hammer like a snap-on one? Just to keep marring the paint to a minimum? Or is the aluminum too strong to be bent over with a hard plastic hammer?

    • @anthonyhall4427
      @anthonyhall4427 2 года назад

      Little late here. I've seen about everyone do the same thing on these videos 😬.I guess there are some of us have been trained on the small stuff but it makes a difference in the end result

  • @jamiedennis6265
    @jamiedennis6265 5 лет назад +1

    Hello Mark, I've followed your video to make my own template and I seem to have a gap on the inside bottom - I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong... I've tried cutting less to my mark, so I have a tighter fit, leaving a bigger tab on the bottom, and likely other things but those are the two I can remember that I know I've tried - any suggestions or thoughts?
    The company I work for uses an outside company to do our troughs and through your videos I've managed to get at least half of the work in house now (I'm doing it) and I'm hopeful I can get 100% of it as I don't want the company to keep outsourcing work.
    Keep up the videos, they've helped a ton of people!

  • @radar2119
    @radar2119 6 лет назад

    Very nice, this is a much better system than what we've been using. Great video, thank you.

  • @VaZulu
    @VaZulu 11 лет назад

    Mark, just one thing; recomend to use the hammer to bend the small parts and scissors won't sufer damages with the time. Very good video. Tks.

  • @pamelakaplan617
    @pamelakaplan617 3 года назад

    Rivets vs screws? Which is better and why?

  • @virgineyau8540
    @virgineyau8540 10 лет назад +1

    very nice corner job

  • @marcuswalker9172
    @marcuswalker9172 9 лет назад

    Keep up the good work my brother. Thanks for being informative. I'm thinking about getting into this bizz

  • @BATUCADAS2020DESALTA
    @BATUCADAS2020DESALTA 9 лет назад

    hola mark de que esta compuesto el producto que usas para sellar las canaletas?

  • @beauchamp1763
    @beauchamp1763 Год назад

    I appreciate you making information filled video's but please slow down so we can see what your doing. 👍

  • @davidbeveridge
    @davidbeveridge 7 лет назад

    A chop saw is good to get a idea exactly what your profile will be on the outer side of the corner but cannot be used on final product. You need to add and subtract in some area for tabs and good fit.

  • @kevin-vt4xo
    @kevin-vt4xo Год назад

    the slits on the outside hurt me. if u leave just a small 1/8” overlap u can use a nylon hammer an hammer it around for a beautiful smooth transition

  • @sunnysacto
    @sunnysacto 5 лет назад

    Hammer Snips are a handy tool

  • @bossdog1480
    @bossdog1480 4 года назад +1

    When I was 17 I managed to drill right through my right ring finger when I was making a corner. The bit bounced off the bone and split the finger and nail all the way up.

    • @mariogatica2363
      @mariogatica2363 3 года назад

      Don't you suppost to drill the Gutter ??

    • @bossdog1480
      @bossdog1480 3 года назад

      @@mariogatica2363 No, I didn't support properly and got bit for my efforts.😂

  • @BATUCADAS2020DESALTA
    @BATUCADAS2020DESALTA 9 лет назад

    hi mark it product what use how sellador the canaletas ?

  • @SANDRI550
    @SANDRI550 2 года назад

    Super thank you for sharing this video

  • @jameshanley1693
    @jameshanley1693 2 года назад

    you've got good info in this vidio but if had'nt been trying to do my own gutters via trial & error and actually attempted to get this right before you'd moving way to fast. As it is right now I'm going to watch this vidio about 10 more times for those who have sheet metal experiance its going to require stop, rewind, play, stop rewind replay countless times x 2.

  • @chriselliott.4996
    @chriselliott.4996 7 лет назад

    Sorry white rubber semi soft best usually white head on mallet.you can use grip on hammer if ya been doing it for 30 years as I have.retired now,worked on very 1st seamless machine sent up in Van. 1973

  • @shawnhorrell6753
    @shawnhorrell6753 2 года назад

    What sealer are you using?

  • @Location2541
    @Location2541 8 лет назад

    Thank you. Yes there were some parts important obscured by the video. A couple of other parts explained really quickly but really needed to be shown a little more. Would of saved me pausing dozens of times.

  • @mykeva1
    @mykeva1 3 года назад

    Everyone I know on east coast uses miter strips, not boxes. I haven’t seen a house with boxes. Strips work good. The gutter miter basically buts up clean enough that it’s like a 1/4”-1/2” gap the strip hides and only one caulk line. But saves your ass if you’re a little off on a long piece.

  • @gutteruniversity
    @gutteruniversity  12 лет назад +2

    If you think that these videos are being produced for people who intend to put up 600 feet of gutter a day, you are missing the point completely. There is simply no need to use a saw, moreover. My crew puts up that amount of gutter every day as well, and we do not need a saw to speed us up. It takes 2 seconds to cut by hand.

  • @gutteruniversity
    @gutteruniversity  12 лет назад +1

    How lazy would you have to be to use a saw to cut through a piece of gutter?

  • @gutteruniversity
    @gutteruniversity  12 лет назад +8

    A guy starting out, who probably just spent thousands of dollars on a machine, does not need to buy a saw to be efficient. Period.
    There is no doubt that people assemble miters differently all over the place. Some people use rivets, some use screws, some cut flush, some leave a big pad on the underside, et cetera ad infinitum. You have your preferences, and I have mine. There is no "right" answer. If you can sell your services and don't have leaks, then you are "right."

  • @aubreyaub
    @aubreyaub 8 лет назад

    Thanks for the video. For what its worth, the Title Block, displayed at the bottom of the Video, tends to block from view, some of the stuff we need to see. But its all good.

  • @thuman9863
    @thuman9863 11 лет назад +1

    THANKS MATE

  • @ButtonBayClub
    @ButtonBayClub 11 лет назад

    nice tutorial, all I would recommend is cutting your clean side gutter a little more precise and fit it to the tab side a little better. by doing that you wont have to bend the metal around the tab side as much which will in turn give you a much nicer looking straight line down the center of the miter. and it wont look like you beat the shit out of it with a hammer!

  • @misfit77
    @misfit77 10 лет назад +2

    The title block was kind of in the way.
    Other than that, nice vid.

  • @mrcbone123
    @mrcbone123 12 лет назад

    a good way not to scratch the paint when hand cutting the corner is to grind the teeth of your hammer so its smooth:)

  • @gutteruniversity
    @gutteruniversity  11 лет назад

    Not a bad recommendation, Juan, but I hate lugging around a hammer all day!

  • @christophersutton4764
    @christophersutton4764 6 лет назад +1

    Who is the pettiest installer of them all?

  • @gutteruniversity
    @gutteruniversity  11 лет назад +1

    Ha! No, there is usually plenty of blood on the job site. Here's my strategy: Let the blood dry and then wipe it off the gutter. Wiping it off when wet will only lead to a mess!

  • @MaximussPoosus
    @MaximussPoosus 12 лет назад

    Good point.
    I might have to buy him a few rounds; if he'll let me!

  • @MaximussPoosus
    @MaximussPoosus 12 лет назад

    I started out by hand cutting - now it's Mitre saw all the way(preferably Makita).
    Yeah I know I was rude to the GU guy, but hey aren't we all?

  • @MaximussPoosus
    @MaximussPoosus 12 лет назад

    hit a nerve did I?
    We all know efficiency is key.
    I'm not being funny, but both of us put up at least 600' gutter and 800-1000' dp a day.
    That's why we use saws; not being lazy - just smarter, not harder.
    Yeah I'm going to put another vid up here this week and you can see.

  • @gutteruniversity
    @gutteruniversity  11 лет назад

    Cheers to that!

  • @cheicellepineda4791
    @cheicellepineda4791 6 лет назад

    pilipino its the best tinsmith

  • @gutteruniversity
    @gutteruniversity  12 лет назад

    Good one

  • @jameshanley1693
    @jameshanley1693 2 года назад

    also first timers will think why fo just use the right to if your a pro....I would think a begimner would have better luck with a body hammer rather then use a tool that wasnt designed to be sheet metal hammer..you seem to know witch surfaces of the snips to use, a 1st timer would think you are randomly beatig hell out of whatever is sticking up with what you happened to have in your hand at the time.The only reason I see what your doing is because like mentioned, I've trying to figure it out for many hours over many weeks off and on.
    .

  • @kerrywhite4974
    @kerrywhite4974 Год назад

    Ever heard of a hammer, you bloody savage

  • @jr3587
    @jr3587 4 года назад

    The seems archaic at this point I know this was made years ago but you can make a template that's perfect for inside outside miners were you don't have to make those ugly cuts and bend them together you can just put together together with popper of its at least in California and their beautiful yacht the bend anything over it on to smooth anything out if you do use a proper begun a new smooth over that inside corner at the top mean outside corner but the top rounded edge of it at least on 6" cutter and looks just fine I can't even tell most of the time take the time to make a nice pattern problem solved and what's up with screws screws look so ugly from the ground he have this big screw protruding why not use proper of its hes 3 across and bought on 3 or 4 across the face morning the top he leaves an extra materials he can put it together a nice and clean to not rocket science maybe someone should make an update video on how to make a miter and maybe I'll do that or some 6" cutter because it's probly the most difficult 5 and 6" cutter which 5" panel Excite whatever and 6" a lot cleaner anyways no we'll make a video super simple

  • @Truelove6
    @Truelove6 11 лет назад

    What? No blood? You must have very tough hands...

  • @sweeneymotorsports82
    @sweeneymotorsports82 6 лет назад +4

    Omg you get paid for that mess? How about using rivits, taking an extra second to trim it nice, and not smashing it with your snips? Now I see why my customers wait 6 months for me to install there gutters!

    • @troy5542
      @troy5542 4 года назад

      Just viewed this. WOW! SMH!

  • @chriselliott.4996
    @chriselliott.4996 7 лет назад

    Semi soft mallet better but that making your own mites is cheap way do it.bettrr use factory made strip miters

  • @gutteruniversity
    @gutteruniversity  12 лет назад

    Wow, you must be quite salesman if you are able to convince the suckers you sell gutters to that "professional" means pop-rivets. Here in Denver, 99% of all 5" k-style gutter miters are assembled with zip screws, not pop-rivets, so there is absolutely no need to try to sell customers pop-rivet snake oil. If you are able to gin up enough suckers to keep yourself busy putting in pop-rivets, that's great. I have more work than I can handle using zip screws!

  • @MaximussPoosus
    @MaximussPoosus 12 лет назад +1

    scribe, saw - 1000th of a sec :p
    Just put your teeth on the inside; ok. You'll save some cash on all those gallons of touch up paint.

  • @brauliorubio2465
    @brauliorubio2465 4 года назад

    you need a beter cámara asistent

  • @mattrussgaming9642
    @mattrussgaming9642 12 лет назад

    id say you dont take pride in your work then. people dont buy colourbond gutters just so you can paint it which cheap touch up they buy them for the look and looking at a external mitre with stiches hanging out of it looks ugly colourbond rivets on the other hand might take that extra little bit but it looks professional and not some bloke trying to hurry up his work so he came make more money

  • @d5ncat227
    @d5ncat227 2 года назад

    They all leak

  • @mattrussgaming9642
    @mattrussgaming9642 12 лет назад

    why not use a grinder ?
    no offense but doing gutters properly like i do use smaller tags dont use zips use pop rivets and use a hammer softly to tap around tags go on the inside, using a saw maybe easier but snips give a cleaner cut and its proven thats using saws will make a colourbond gutter rust quicker, i personally dont agree with touch up paint and no offense but you caked it on there itll dry and look like shit

  • @steelhub1306
    @steelhub1306 10 лет назад +1

    dirty work... blind rivets, silicon sealat and touch paint you will be needed intead of screws

  • @chriselliott.4996
    @chriselliott.4996 7 лет назад

    Mallet be white plastic

  • @MaximussPoosus
    @MaximussPoosus 12 лет назад

    omfg buy a chop saw and swing table.
    Man that looks like shit have your tabs/teeth on the inside.

  • @thomastusing6103
    @thomastusing6103 11 лет назад

    I went looking for Nate Gunn Video on how he done this but all I heard was a bunch of foul language, Wouldn't really matter how good you thought you are you wouldn't work with our crews. Just not professional. looks like crews I've ran across looking for beer money.

  • @MrMagnuminium
    @MrMagnuminium 12 лет назад

    Is this a joke?

  • @gutteruniversity
    @gutteruniversity  12 лет назад +1

    Another arrogant and clueless person who thinks the way he does things is the only "correct" way. First of all, smaller tabs, pop rivets, and avoiding paint are all silly and superficial differences. If your customers are happy (as mine are), and your gutters don't leak, that's all that matters. Lastly, this is a demo! Do you really think I care whether the paint on a demo looks great? Give me a break!

  • @frankch25
    @frankch25 10 лет назад

    Nasty

  • @mustafacormehmedovic8062
    @mustafacormehmedovic8062 3 месяца назад

    Discusting bro

  • @chriselliott.4996
    @chriselliott.4996 7 лет назад

    Oh my god what bunch rookies