They could have saved money on the ransom. If they waited long enough, the kidnappers would have eventually returned all of the guy piece by piece for free.
yeah interest was higher back then, but that was back when you looked forward to inflation as the destroyer of your debt. back when wages increased and houses were cheap. housing is still pretty cheap in the 90% of the US that 50% of the population chooses to lives in, but you get the point
Apparently mortgage rates should be around 18 percent. Economy can't sustain this low. Person I heard this from said he thinks it will bounce back to 26 percent in most of our life time then settle back to 15 ish. Heard it on youtube just can't remember from who
One of my teachers told us this story as a morality tale when we were kids. Urban legend has it that doctors offered to reconstruct the ear for the grandson, but he refused saying that he wanted it to be a permanent reminder that his grandfather cared more about money than his own blood.
@Thrill Element they got the ransom money and he was released. Not giving them the money immediately led to his ear getting cut off and nearly resulted in his death through infection.
@Thrill Element it isn’t reasonable. If you look at hostage situations throughout history the most successful tactic is negotiation and appeasement. You can go after the kidnappers after the hostages are freed- the number one priority should be getting the hostages back safe. Flat out refusing to pay the ransom without any other plans of getting the kid back wasn’t just immoral- it was straight up stupid. There’s no chance a criminal organization which has gone through the effort of kidnapping someone is going to just give up and let the kid go without getting anything in return or without any plausible threat being levied at them.
@Thrill Element I don’t know where you’re getting your information but you are wrong. Read John C. Griffith’s work “Hostage: The History, Facts, and Reasoning Behind Hostage Taking” and you’ll see in more detail how you are wrong.
@Thrill Element I never said every situation requires negotiation and appeasement, I said that historically that is the most successful approach to hostage situations. I also didn’t say I’m always right. I’ve been wrong about many things before, this not being one of them. Hostage situations are generally best handled by just paying the hostage takers or appeasing them in some other way. I don’t understand why you’re so hostile. Being wrong is ok- like I said, I’ve been wrong many times before as well. I also don’t understand what you’re talking about re: “partially wrong.” These are pretty irreconcilable differences. Your position is that it is best to not pay in hostage situations because you think the hostage takers will have no reason to keep the hostages alive. My position is that paying the hostage takers is the best course of action as in the vast majority of cases (especially with organized crime) the hostages will be released after the hostage takers get what they want (or at least as much as they think they can get). I have based this position off of my readings and experiences studying hostage situations throughout history. What are you basing your position off of?
"A lasting relationship with a woman is only possible if you are a business failure." - Goes through 5 divorces "I would gladly give all my millions for just one lasting marital success." ~ Greediest man in history.
Just goes to show that happiness and extreme wealth go together like peanut butter and motor oil. Greed is like an addiction, no matter how many times you are shown how futile and destructive your actions are, you keep trying to get more money
@@lordstarscream5136 well it reads out More like its meant to be a factual statement. "This Guy COULD Be The inspiration For Scrooge mcduck" would Be far better i think
As someone who has worked retail, I can say without a doubt that the less fortunate always give more. This is because the less fortunate understand what its like to need help.
Most people who are rich by any standards, were not "self made" they either were born into it, got insanely lucky gambling, or exploited the ever loving fuck out of their fellow man I see rich people and its just aggravating at this point
@@ghostnoodle9721 I would say that’s mostly untrue but I don’t know what you consider rich. However, the insanely wealthy are exactly as you described. Leeches
It's because excessive greed is a *mental disorder* and IMO it should be legally treated as such. Confiscate their assets up to a point or even imprison them if they keep circumventing the law to become even richer (off shore accounts and what not).
The Hatton Garden Heist? That was a classic "one last job, for old times' sake" kind of deal. That story was both impressive and kind of heart-warming, in a way.
@@shynoelle2265 I bet you don't work very hard do you? Don't burn him out let's enjoy the quality we have we were accepting of it before why change that now...
story fact: in those years, it was very common for the ndrangheta (in Italian it is pronounced with "A" at the beginning (A) ndrangheta) to kidnap famous people, a total of 694 people were kidnapped, some never found again. if you are in calabria some neighborhoods of the city were built with ransom money, because these criminals were infiltrated everywhere. they had no mercy on whom to kidnap, men, women, children.
@@NoHands46 don't worry, the organisation exists even now and they are stronger than ever! Only thing they turned mostly to finance and trafficking on an international level...
"Cat's Meow" is another good one. I have met rich people. Some are surprised by their wealth, others are absolutely inhuman in enhancing it, more is never enough.
@@Allen667sjja Allegations aside, Christopher Plummer was a much better fit for the role than Spacey. Plummer looked more like Jean Paul than Spacey did, and the old man makeup wasn't that convincing.
There's a bitter irony in the fact that a man who "hated to be a failure" was the world's _biggest_ failure as a husband, father, grandfather and as a human being. I'd heard the story of the kidnapping before so my opinion of Getty was already pretty damn low.... after finding out he basically extorted 4% interest on the money he _loaned_ his son to pay ransom _after_ they'd already received the grandkid's ear....??! I'm stunned someone in his family didn't take the old bastard out before he could take away their inheritance.... not like anyone would mourn his passing!
I only feel sad for him, nobody is born like that, he probably grew up on an environment where wealth was the only measure of value on a person. And because he had this worldview instilled as a toddler rather than as an adult in business setting, he took it to insane extremes.
@@gamechip06not a thing inspirational or successful about a man who literally puts money above all else. Ultimate failure of a human being, he admits it himself. Some small part of him still knew all his riches never got him what all humans need: love, acceptance, belonging. Call me a hippie if you want, I don't care. I'll be poor the rest of my life but I am rich with the love of my daughter and family. I'll die with a smile on my face. I wonder if he can say the same? Edited for grammer
obviously not as serious of a situation, but a few years back my little sister had a paper route. she did it with her friend and made as much as you would at any part time job. the paper was free, kids volunteered as there was an optional fee they could be tipped. we moved to a 'nicer' rich area, we aren't rich but someone who was was renting out a house for a reasonable price in the area. my sister transfered her route to our new street and had to quit. she'd be so disappointed coming back with some pocket change after going through so many houses and trecking though multiple streets in the snow. And not a single person would ever tip even though they clearly had money to give a dollar to some kid for the newspaper. I remember a story from a while ago too of a rich person complaining that all the 'poor' kids came to their house on halloween to get good candy...like how angry do you need to be at the world that poor kids are coming to your house on halloween.
I'd wager many of those are the folks who got wealthy via corruption, be it moral or financial one. The fellows who started low but become rich due to just being that good at what they do along with hard work on the other hand tend to be some of the nicest people on the planet. Seen both types.
In the book "The Psychopath Test", it's proposed that many if not most of the successful business men in the world are psychopaths. The traits of a psychopath lend themselves to success at the expense of others.
I never did believe those “psychopathic traits” I think they started at the outcome and worked backwards as a way to surmise what causes things. They may turn out to be true but it may also just be a thing and it may lead to many false positives to the point where there’s more false positives than actual positives. For example; if Ed Gien liked ice cream does that mean anyone who likes ice cream has the potential to be a serial killer? Of course not, so why would liking money make you one? Pretty much the only thing that makes you a psychopath is if you lack empathy… not that you’re unempathetic but that you simply are unable to feel empathy or remorse… it’s a pretty narrow definition that even Jean there doesn’t fit into. Would a psychopath be a great businessman? Yea, absolutely. Does that mean most businessmen are psychopaths? Definitely not. I can’t think of a single business decision that would be beneficial solely on the grounds that it hurts people. Some decisions may seem callous, but it’s always give and take between the pros and the cons and any businessman worth anything knows you can’t be successful if you piss everyone off. You need to look no further than Martin Shkrelli to see that in action
@@ADBBuild Psychopath isn't a medical definition in the first place if the people that only talk in all caps on Psychology RUclips channels are to be believed. And everyone I ever see explain it pretty much agrees that it means "no empathy". So yeah, he very likely got it right, since majority opinion is how defining words works.
@@ADBBuild then should we go by what the definition is? Because that’s “someone with a chronic mental disorder who exhibits violent or abnormal social behavior” Which the mental disorder in question is psychopathy which is “a disorder characterized by shallow emotional response, lack of empathy, impulsivity, and an increased likelihood for antisocial behavior” So I am wrong; a psychopath wouldn’t make a very good businessman since the only way to really get ahead in business in through connections which someone who is anti-social probably wouldn’t have, and impulsiveness is the very last thing you want when making decisions… so I’ll give you that… lack of empathy which is the biggest characteristic of psychopaths would be beneficial though
One thing I learned from a history class once is that in the Middle Ages during the part where they had knights as we normally imagine them (towards the end), they'd often try to take other knights prisoner rather than killing them... That's because if the other person is a knight, they probably got a lot of money to be taken from ransoming... Additionally, you also would want to cause as little damage to their armor as possible because once they've surrendered you're going to strip them of it and damaged armor with dents and punctures in it doesn't sell as well as undamaged armor...
Oh yeah the practice of Ransom that also extended to regular people BTW also the Iberian Peninsula had a literal Ransom economy where Al Andalus and the Christian kingdoms made bank exchanging prisoners. This "prisoner exchange" also nearly happened in the 3rd Crusade where Richard the Lionheart tried to ransom his Muslim prisoners to Saladin who has a number of Christian prisoners, but Saladin stalled and thus all the prisoners on both sides were executed. (sources don't agree whether or not the Muslim Prisoners families were also executed but it was said all the prisoners were executed in a very public manner.)
@@abridgedbog7753 One thing I think Mount & Blade gets wrong (although I've barely ever played it, so I'm just going off vague memories of big open battles)... Most battles in the Middle Ages were actually sieges... Ones fought out in open terrain (or at least, not with a castle/fort) like with the Battle of Agincourt were quite rare... Because there were so many castles all over the place a lot of warfare was about starving the enemy out, using cavalry to pick off people nearby trying to escape or deliver supplies, and then just doing damage with siege equipment and waiting... It was very uncommon for a battle to not involve some fortifications... Another thing my professor taught us was that "horses are smarter than people" because when a horse sees a wall of spears it actually just refuses to run into it... They'll run up to it and the person riding on top can try and use a spear at the people forming the wall of spears, but the movie scenes where the horses are charging into walls of spears are not realistic... It was a class on Ancient & Medieval Warfare so we covered some myths about warfare in media... With ancient warfare one interesting fact is originally horses were too small to carry people wearing a lot of armor and also they didn't have stirrups invented for awhile... This basically made it so for awhile in antiquity they ended up using chariots instead... Once stronger horses started becoming bred (ultimately eventually culminating into the huge Clydesdale breed) and equipment like stirrups were invented, horse mounted soldiers in heavy armor became a lot more viable later into antiquity and you got the cataphract which gradually evolved to be knights (although they didn't really look like what we recognize as knights immediately... The full heavy plate armor didn't really show up until near the end of the Middle Ages...)
@@RealmRabbit There wasn't much that horsemen could do against "spear walls". If you're talking Greek phalanx, their formation was almost air tight and shielded as well. If you're talking medieval pikemen their pikes were around 5 meters in length, generally much longer than lances (the longest cavalry weapons). Even if you assume that cavalry had the same (or longer) reach, it would be meaningless to try to attack the pikemen, first of all, all of your momentum would disappear (horse stopping to turn, or turning) so your cavalry attack would have little force behind it, and secondly even if you did manage to get a pikemen like that, the others from the front row would make quick work of you, kill your horse, topple you off your horse and eventually kill you. It was just a trade you wouldn't want to make, even if you were able to kill 10 pikemen for every horseman, it would be a very bad deal to trade 1 knight for 10 pikemen. Your cavalry was an amazing asset against pikemen IF you managed to break their formation (through artillery or archers).
It's also the fact that if you take your enemies hostage for ransom when you win the enemy is more likely to grant you the same favor in return if you lose
praying for ya buddy. i just left the hospital. beat kidney cancer. but the dr found something he doesnt like so i have to go back oct 14th. i wish him the best, bud!
My childhood may have been weird in that we were poor until I was about 10 years old and then we started becoming wealthy. Over a decade before I was born, my dad started a business literally from nothing and had to fight for every inch. After working so hard just to scrape by the business finally took off and these days at 70 years old he mostly just sits back and watches the money roll in. I respect and admire my dad for what he achieved. I doubt I could do it myself and I think at least some of the reason for that is I had a easier life than my dad did.
@@airplanemaniacgaming7877 my thinking was that it would be more suspicious to ask for the business name, so I asked for the net worth.. anyways.. *any business you own, you want to talk about??*
Fun fact about this. I had a teacher tell me that in order to get back at the Jean Paul, they were thinking of what would anger him the most. So they put his whole art collection on display. For free. Hence, the Getty museum has free admission.
Qxir, my dear young man, you have already learned one of life's great lessons...For all the advantages great wealth can facilitate, it means nothing without empathy and compassion.
The lesson here is never kidnap a member of the tribe unless you have a means of beating the money directly out of the victim or one of those cool bomb collars.
Yes Risher is a very british name. It sounds harsh but I kind of agree with the guy. The grandkid was a pretty useless druggie already, and also if you start forking out ransom money left and right it does encourage that sort of thing.
@@glasstuna while I want to believe his mom's mom's last name is risher (nothing on her dad) so idk maybe jew maybe not if she was a jew well we know what that makes him
I've seen the word grind used a few comments, what does it mean in this context and what is a grindset? Thanks if someone replies, if not, have a great day regardless.
Tough call on that ransom. IIRC Gambino's nephew was kidnapped and ransomed in the 70s, the logic was the same, that if it was paid then the rest of the family would be in danger due to the success of the kidnapping. It wasn't paid and they moidered him.
I'm 29 days sober, and this really hit me hard. My partner and I are still working on communication with each other in my sobriety, and the bit at the end really hit me hard and helped center my focus on why I'm doing what I'm doing. Thanks, Qxir.
I love how the last quote is still cold and callous. He doesn't regret not being loved or wants love. He only regrets that he is still human and can fail. lol what a peice of work.
Yeah, I've been homeless and it was rough. Years later I'm still so grateful for every night I have a roof over my head. If I could have another go at things I'd make sure I didn't end up there but learning to appreciate what many take for granted is definitely a silver lining.
@@buggs9950 i dont know how im gonna live im not sure if i can tbh being 17 with the world the way it is now forced to live in a society and America drug abuse im not sure how much longer i wanna live tbh i just feel its all a simulation i mean last week i was drowning in a 12 foot deep pool so maybe it's a sign.
@@medievaltrap7285 Well I suppose you are a bit stuck at the moment 'cos of your age but once you're an adult no-ones forcing you to participate in mainstream society. There are lots of people living of the fringes or right out of it. It's hard, especially on your own but depending on how sociable you are there are little bands of people who look out for each other, some are a bit criminal to be fair but many aren't. My current conclusion is that life is one long fight so grab it by the balls and squeeze. Whatever you do do it to the maximum and make sure you do it before the pain consumes you 'cos resentment and bitterness follow and that's just miserable.
@@ContentConfessional empathy isn’t entirely learned, but also in our very nature. I disagree that it quickly atrophies when no longer needed. War time for example throws empathy out the window but soldiers are still haunted by what they have to do. Empathy can be corroded though, it just takes quite a while to do that. And when that happens it can be a very dangerous thing
Just a tip for a story for you, the Heineken abduction. There where movies made but I think it can use your story telling. Though he be the killer of many livers, he was actually a likeable guy.
Thing is, large scale philanthropy ends up with the billionaire thinking they know how to cure the world of it's ills - like wanting to block the sun out with a load of dust particles? If money = power, and tons of money = absolute power, then billionairism is always going to lead to corruption (morally and ethically?). It's why we've gone to Hell in a handcart.
@@luciuscornelius7177 quick question (I wholeheartedly agree with what you said, it's more a question about you): where are you from? Bc I'm in America, and I've always heard the phrase as "hell in a handbasket" . So is that a cultural thing or am I just sheltered lol?
I love this guy's self honesty, being aware that instead of being jealous of this billionaires circumstances, he's glad he wasn't born like that. I'm the same way, and proud of it in my own mind. We've all had moments of jealousy, but I'm actually glad and feel blessed I've had to keep earning my own way up. If I was born with millions, I'd be a little shit or possibly dead already
A relative of these guys went on to direct the horror movie The Evil Within (originally titled 'The Storyteller', but he died before production finished - I'll get into that in a second) He was left pretty fucked up by the events covered in this video, and had very little respect for his family as a result. After they all died, he took his inheritance, and decided to make a movie. First mistake he made was buying all the equipment outright, instead of renting it, which is far, far more expensive. Second was that he insisted on doing a lot of the in-camera effects himself. They look absolutely stunning in the movie, but they were incredibly time consuming to produce. After I think a year or two of this, he became obsessed, and would lock himself in his editing room for days at a time, which led to his wife leaving him. A few more years, and he died of a meth related stomach ulcer. The Evil Within was released, I think, about a decade after filming wrapped. The effects and seemingly fluid time setting lend it an incredibly dreamy feel. It's truly one of a kind, and I can't recommend it enough. I've typed all this up from memory, so it might not be 100% accurate; but if you're interested I encourage you to investigate yourself
Qxir, I've been a subscriber for a few years now, and while I've enjoyed every video you've made so far, this one was phenomenal. Especially the ending, that was just perfectly executed. It really feels like you have gotten into your element. I also really enjoy the regular video postings, but dont over-exert yourself if you don't have to.
It's pretty standard procedure these days to negotiate down a ransom, and then pay it. So I understand if he didn't rush to pay the first demand of $17m regardless of how insanely wealthy he was. But yes, the behaviour of him particularly after the ear was sent is pretty shocking. Once it was down to $3-4m you would think just pay up, that's now pocket change and the eyes of the world were on this.
It’s a double edged sword, if you pay the ransom then your family will still be targeted for other ransoms but it you don’t pay the one that is kidnapped could die. It isn’t as black and white as this case. Which reminds me, don’t go to the dangers parts of Mexico, especially if you’re are an American. For some stupid reason they think all Americans are rich and would ransom them. They have been known to kill the victim even if they received the money. My Grandfather was kidnapped down there luckily since he was Mexican and his American family had no money they let him go. So if you are an American and they find you have no money they will kill you right away, if you are an American and pay the ransom it’s a toss up that they will kill you. If you are of Mexican descent you chances are a little higher but not much. We just got extremely lucky.
Woo-hoo, new content! Not complaining about the rate of new videos, just that after I stumbled across this channel I made the mistake of binging the whole thing in one weekend. Thanks for the interesting video.
After watching the ending I called up several family members I had not spoken to for quite some time and told them how much I loved them. About $50 worth of ransom to be paid back at 19% interest.
I nearly died from an infection in my leg and was homeless & wheelchair bound while recovering. Not my brightest day. I had no choice but to beg for money with a sign. I noticed quickly, corvettes, BMWs, challengers and nicer *never* gave you a dollar, but a barely running minivan would occasionally pull up and give you $20, which was much more than to be expected. Saw multiple Lamborghinis. Most of my money came from Ford Focuses and the like.
Grifters ruined the panhandling profession long before you got there. Just about everyone of means has a story about giving a bum a chance or helping a bum out and getting burnt by it.
Getty was no doubt cold as hell, maybe to the point of being psychopathic, but he did have a point about potentially making his other grandchildren targets by paying the ransom. He is quoted as saying, “I have 14 other grandchildren and if I pay one penny now, then I will have 14 kidnapped grandchildren.” PS. It'd be interesting to see Qixir discuss the link between psychopathy and business success.
I used to do pizza delivery. Here in Australia tipping is not expected. But when I did get one, the tips were always from battlers, people on low income (like me). And some were quite generous. Deliver a pizza to a mansion and get a tip? Forget it! Never happened! I also drove a limo for a while and same story. Picked an average Aussie couple up from the airport and got a $100 tip. A week later I drove an extremely wealthy Asian businessman to the airport and he gave me a $10 tip. Most passengers (or pizza eaters) didn’t tip and that’s fine, but when I did get tips they were from genuine people who wanted to show appreciation. I found out later the Asian businessman had lost 450k at the casino the previous night. Maybe that 10 bucks was all he had left in his wallet. And yes, I occasionally give tips for good service, even though I don’t have to.
Jean Paul's behavior actually makes a lot of sense as to why he was the richest man though. He never made a decision without thinking about his wallet, which is evil and admirable in its own sense.
Bro, your kind hearted message at the end meant so much especially where you are usually the king of smart-assery!!! Thank you so very much for all the incredible content with a joyful zest of narration! Have a great day....
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Gotta love how even the richest man in the world at one point, still, at the end, swore he'd messed everything up and would be happier destitute with a loving family. Take note, today's million and billionaires (looking at you Bill and Jeff), that you might feel on top of the world now, but all men must die, and so far? There will be celebrations when those two die, and no amount of money can stop it. Enjoy your money while it lasts, boys, cause you can't take it with you when you die.
Those two have donated lots and lots of money to charity and they use their money as a way to help others? Instead of judging people just because of the wealth aren't you as equal as they are by your own logic? I mean your logic is sound but to worry about it is useless
@@leaf8175 Yeah and Bill made it by keeping us technologically stunted for decades and Jeff made it taking advantage of destitute workers. Who gives a crap about their tax write off philanthropy?
@Caleb OKAY again use your own philosophy, you won't have anything after death, to put it simply, judging others for their actions and saying a generalized statement that appeals to the masses like eat the rich is a weak point, me myself being a poor man I could care less about how much money people have or how much crimes people commit, to worry oneself with silly things is silly, it isn't to be compliance to no means but it is a losing battle that you would not want to wage war in
@@rwaitt14153 They give a pittance of their unfathomable wealth. Nobody calls me a philanthropist for giving away $500 when I make $30k a year. But because it happens to be millions when they make billions, suddenly they are absolved of their sins. Ever think maybe they do it for that exact reason? So you dont think of their disgusting wealth and instead think of their charity?
Thats why millionaires are millionaires. And people like us, miserable with emotions and love are simply us. Its all relative though. A poet once said "love less to, suffer lesser". Peace to all
Haven't watched the entire thing but the reason he didn't pay is because his grandson had mentioned numerous times he would stage a fake kidnapping to get money from his grandfather. The kid was not an angel
While the grandkid was not an angel, Getty still refused to pay the ransom for months after the family & the police confirmed that it was not fake or a hoax. His family might not have been angels, but Getty was a complete arsehole.
"...he was a rebellious teen, getting kicked out of school for vandalism. He adopted his father and stepmother bohemian lifestyle, leading an aimless life of hedonism and partying..." I wouldn't pay his ramson either...
One silver lining to his story. I had been planning to go out in that exact same way. I've now changed my mind knowing what I would face if I screwed up. Which I probably would. So at least his story saved a life for the same being.
Yeah man, you have to burry that ideia deep down, and defeat it as many time as you can, at a point that you finally learn to love yourself and never let anything destroy your peace again.
@@northlandgaming8460 I think most photos of famous people or historical photos in the last 60 or so years that are copyrighted and in magazines, on the internet, on TV etc. are owned by Getty images.
Yeah, I have a relatively rich uncle who called me "his son" after my mum killed herself then turned his back on me when I needed help to protect a new and successful design/invention which all the banks were beginning to use, and now I'm actually homeless with no family! He also blamed me for his sister's death. So, the love of money can make people mad with greed. P.s. Don't worry about me, it taught me a lesson more valuable than money!
I love when people say they are poor or homeless or some shit on the internet. Hate it for them...but poor was very different when I was a kid. Poor people were not even worth burying. Just to know poor people have clothes now is so cool. Again sucks for them but it makes me happy to see the difference.
8:00 Makes me wonder if he was truly a business genius and family man. Think about it, he can write off the 2.2m and by loaning his son 800k with interest he absolutely ensures its a ransom without being extorted himself. Through all of that, he removes the risk from all his other grandchildren/children. He probably chose the least minimal impact scenario for everyone and everything he had. I'm trying to see this from his prospective, any emotion would be a point of weakness for people to exploit him or his family.
17 million isn't really that much to a multi billionaire. While he crunched numbers with his accountant they cut his son's ear off which got horribly infected while waiting and he still haggled on the amount. Then the greedy prick made his one ear 16 year old son pay him back! With interest!! I would choose my child over money every time.
@@Goblineng Is that not the perfect thing to do to ensure the saftey of all his kids and grandkids? Think about it, you have that much money, even if you pick up the phone and tell them anything like "don't worry about it, anything for you, glad you are ok" any statement of concern puts every last one of his relatives at risk. To be honest i just think he chose to be one of the best businessmen in the world and inherited problems that he could only solve by being the way he was. A lot of it can be spun in a negative light because of his wealth, but what it boils down to is all the possible consequences of acting as a 'decent human' should. Who knows how he felt or what happened in the background. I seen a very interesting story, but nothing that screamed he was cold, because why even pay at all if he really was that cold?
The payphone in his house is sly though. everything else seemed to be unique to his situation. I just doubt he didn't care about his family enough for money that is insignificant to him, makes no sense. seems more like he fooled everyone into thinking there is little point kidnapping his family and little point making plots within the family to do so either.
J. Paul Getty - the richest man in the world at the time - paid ransom. - and for fooks sake, the second I hit _post_ he says _J. Paul Getty._ ..patience pays, I guess.
"I hate to be a failure. I hate and regret the failure of my marriages. I would gladly give all my millions for just one lasting marital success." That hit hard. I'm married and often forget how lucky I am. I can sometimes be selfish as well. Putting the wrong things first. Sometimes I take things for granted maybe. If she wasn't sleeping right now I would hug and kiss her and tell her that I love her and appreciate everything she does. I'm working class and far from being rich and I wouldn't swap my wife for any amount of money.
You should do a video on the Russian mafia. I was surprised to find out how large it was. Not to mention that they have ties with the Italian mafia in the US.
Russian mafia is huge and ruthless. their "made" members usually wear a tattoo on the front part of their shoulders (so you can see it if you look at them from the front) of a star on each side if I remember correctly. They are not setup the same way as the Italians tho. they have a different hierarchy and structure and definitely different standards but they are more ruthless than la cosa nostra. reading about them is interesting
I followed your advice and gave my family a call, and what a great piece of advice! Now I'm getting 3% interest (I was feeling generous). Soulless riches, here I come!
Too bad he came up with that final quote when he had one foot in the grave, the other on a banana peel, ya know? How many times does one have to lose a favored item, a spot of cash, or a lover before you figure out that money in the bank can’t buy anything if yer too damn stingy to spend it… and it will never fill yer heart…
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5:22 you actualy pronuncend that quite well (i'm italian)
Ay yo I can't watch the video due to self harm topics, even though I'm like 99% sure I've watched it before you gonna get that fixed big man ?
Sooner or later you’re born and will die empty handed no one care because you are already dead after all 😮
“Gotta turn that mind set into a grind set”
-Jean Paul Getty when asked why he gave into the 3 mil ransom
XD
"I know you are but what am i"......."Pee Wee Herman"
dontpayransomforfamilyillionaire sigma grindset
A true chad
"Yeah i earned the Gettys four billion bucks, the way they treat me. It really sucks."
They could have saved money on the ransom. If they waited long enough, the kidnappers would have eventually returned all of the guy piece by piece for free.
"Some assembly required"
Lol wow thats some dark humor.🤣
@@A.F.M.B.1234 Eh, still easier to put together than IKEA furniture.
50 shades of darker.
@@A.F.M.B.1234 Coming to an IKEA close to you soon!
Dude straight up charged his son higher interest than you should ever agree to on a mortgage.
@@Register_2017 properties were cheaper then but God damn that is a high interest
At that point I would have done the same thing that happened to his grand son and see how he felt.
In the 80s that was a low interest rate. My youth savings account paid 5.5%.
yeah interest was higher back then, but that was back when you looked forward to inflation as the destroyer of your debt. back when wages increased and houses were cheap. housing is still pretty cheap in the 90% of the US that 50% of the population chooses to lives in, but you get the point
Apparently mortgage rates should be around 18 percent. Economy can't sustain this low. Person I heard this from said he thinks it will bounce back to 26 percent in most of our life time then settle back to 15 ish.
Heard it on youtube just can't remember from who
One of my teachers told us this story as a morality tale when we were kids. Urban legend has it that doctors offered to reconstruct the ear for the grandson, but he refused saying that he wanted it to be a permanent reminder that his grandfather cared more about money than his own blood.
@Thrill Element they got the ransom money and he was released. Not giving them the money immediately led to his ear getting cut off and nearly resulted in his death through infection.
@Thrill Element it isn’t reasonable. If you look at hostage situations throughout history the most successful tactic is negotiation and appeasement. You can go after the kidnappers after the hostages are freed- the number one priority should be getting the hostages back safe. Flat out refusing to pay the ransom without any other plans of getting the kid back wasn’t just immoral- it was straight up stupid. There’s no chance a criminal organization which has gone through the effort of kidnapping someone is going to just give up and let the kid go without getting anything in return or without any plausible threat being levied at them.
@Thrill Element I don’t know where you’re getting your information but you are wrong. Read John C. Griffith’s work “Hostage: The History, Facts, and Reasoning Behind Hostage Taking” and you’ll see in more detail how you are wrong.
@Thrill Element I never said every situation requires negotiation and appeasement, I said that historically that is the most successful approach to hostage situations. I also didn’t say I’m always right. I’ve been wrong about many things before, this not being one of them. Hostage situations are generally best handled by just paying the hostage takers or appeasing them in some other way. I don’t understand why you’re so hostile. Being wrong is ok- like I said, I’ve been wrong many times before as well.
I also don’t understand what you’re talking about re: “partially wrong.” These are pretty irreconcilable differences. Your position is that it is best to not pay in hostage situations because you think the hostage takers will have no reason to keep the hostages alive. My position is that paying the hostage takers is the best course of action as in the vast majority of cases (especially with organized crime) the hostages will be released after the hostage takers get what they want (or at least as much as they think they can get). I have based this position off of my readings and experiences studying hostage situations throughout history. What are you basing your position off of?
I like potatoes
"A lasting relationship with a woman is only possible if you are a business failure."
- Goes through 5 divorces
"I would gladly give all my millions for just one lasting marital success."
~ Greediest man in history.
Lol I didn't think about the oxymoron of those two quotes.
Just goes to show that happiness and extreme wealth go together like peanut butter and motor oil. Greed is like an addiction, no matter how many times you are shown how futile and destructive your actions are, you keep trying to get more money
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 The system is so obviously corrupt and nearly everyone is delusional. This is a dark road to nowhere good.
honestly deserves those 5 divorces tbh
He would do better in that area to be born handsome and get fit and not marry women half his age
“I have to suffer before I prosper.” Truer words were never spoken. We’re in the same boat bud
That is at the heart of many ancient philosophies.
"I'm a slow learner".......same
actually truer words have been spoken
When someone says they had to suffer before they prosper
Keep note this statement admits uncontrollable suffering was from the past
I was skimming the comments and misread your words, "in the same boat bud" as "in the same but"
lol, I had to stop and reread it. Like, "wtf is this?"
This guy is the inspiration for Scrooge McDUCK
No, that's Andrew Carnegie
@@thenotsoradrussian_1727 do you not understand what a joke is?
@@lordstarscream5136 well it reads out More like its meant to be a factual statement. "This Guy COULD Be The inspiration For Scrooge mcduck" would Be far better i think
@@anttitheinternetguy3213 based grammar capitalist looking for ways to improve the delivery of the message
nothing like those pesky grammar nazis
I didnt know qxir was rich...makes sense he is the inspiration.
Honestly, after that description I imagined him negotating a lower ransom 'cause the "good" got damaged by the kidnappers.
He already lowered the ransom. From 17 to 3 million
I'm surprised he didn't try returning him for a refund.
“You’re returning less of him so where’s the discount?”
Sooner or later you’re born and will die empty handed no one care because you are already dead after all 😮
Sooner or later you’re born and will die empty handed no one care because you are already dead after all 😮
As someone who has worked retail, I can say without a doubt that the less fortunate always give more. This is because the less fortunate understand what its like to need help.
Most people who are rich by any standards, were not "self made" they either were born into it, got insanely lucky gambling, or exploited the ever loving fuck out of their fellow man
I see rich people and its just aggravating at this point
100%
@@ghostnoodle9721 it seem that’s the world “we” created.
The only path to wealth is on the backs of other people. It’s really a bummer
@@ghostnoodle9721 I would say that’s mostly untrue but I don’t know what you consider rich. However, the insanely wealthy are exactly as you described. Leeches
It's because excessive greed is a *mental disorder* and IMO it should be legally treated as such. Confiscate their assets up to a point or even imprison them if they keep circumventing the law to become even richer (off shore accounts and what not).
You should really do a video on "the grandpa gang", a group of 60+ year old men who attempted to steal millions of dollars worth of jewels
Wow. That sounds interesting.
sounds cool haha. i cant blame them if they really have nothing going on in their lives.
I think I saw a trailer for that movie
The Hatton Garden Heist? That was a classic "one last job, for old times' sake" kind of deal. That story was both impressive and kind of heart-warming, in a way.
Even the grand kids were in on it. They got paid in candy bars.
I’m loving that you are uploading more often and the quality stays the same or is even better. Don’t crunch yourself though. Great stuff man.
yeah dont crunch yourself but also…. its a good show so maybe do hehe
@@shynoelle2265 I bet you don't work very hard do you? Don't burn him out let's enjoy the quality we have we were accepting of it before why change that now...
@@CoreyandCrew it was a joke but im sure when you’re older you’ll be able to pick up on the more subtle jokes :)
@@shynoelle2265 that wasn't a very funny joke.
@@CoreyandCrew im sorry i didnt meet your standards ill try harder next time, just for you
story fact: in those years, it was very common for the ndrangheta (in Italian it is pronounced with "A" at the beginning (A) ndrangheta) to kidnap famous people, a total of 694 people were kidnapped, some never found again.
if you are in calabria some neighborhoods of the city were built with ransom money, because these criminals were infiltrated everywhere.
they had no mercy on whom to kidnap, men, women, children.
That's horrible!
@@NoHands46 Not as horrible as your mother though. 😎😎😎
@@NoHands46 don't worry, the organisation exists even now and they are stronger than ever! Only thing they turned mostly to finance and trafficking on an international level...
frankie jr
I had always thought that the Simpson's Mr Burns was modelled on Getty. He even looked a bit like Burns.
I mean yeah you are right
yea i was thinking the same
Nope, that was Rothschild, 🤝
@@KumaBean Nonsense. Also, Rothschild is a family not a single person.
@@rocketscience4516 Jacob Rotschild
I watched the movie based on this event, 'All the Money in the World', and it is such a great film! If you have the time, give it a watch.
I was wondering if that was the same person from the movie I watched. Goated movie
@@apeaked 🐐
The directors sacrificed a lot by basically reshooting the whole thing because of the whole Kevin spacey incident too
"Cat's Meow" is another good one. I have met rich people. Some are surprised by their wealth, others are absolutely inhuman in enhancing it, more is never enough.
@@Allen667sjja Allegations aside, Christopher Plummer was a much better fit for the role than Spacey. Plummer looked more like Jean Paul than Spacey did, and the old man makeup wasn't that convincing.
There's a bitter irony in the fact that a man who "hated to be a failure" was the world's _biggest_ failure as a husband, father, grandfather and as a human being.
I'd heard the story of the kidnapping before so my opinion of Getty was already pretty damn low.... after finding out he basically extorted 4% interest on the money he _loaned_ his son to pay ransom _after_ they'd already received the grandkid's ear....??! I'm stunned someone in his family didn't take the old bastard out before he could take away their inheritance.... not like anyone would mourn his passing!
I only feel sad for him, nobody is born like that, he probably grew up on an environment where wealth was the only measure of value on a person. And because he had this worldview instilled as a toddler rather than as an adult in business setting, he took it to insane extremes.
@@Vitorruy1 Your sympathy is misplaced
I disagree, this man was a great success and inspiration minus the whole relationship thing of course.
@@Vitorruy1 People are most certainly born like that
@@gamechip06not a thing inspirational or successful about a man who literally puts money above all else. Ultimate failure of a human being, he admits it himself. Some small part of him still knew all his riches never got him what all humans need: love, acceptance, belonging. Call me a hippie if you want, I don't care. I'll be poor the rest of my life but I am rich with the love of my daughter and family. I'll die with a smile on my face. I wonder if he can say the same?
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obviously not as serious of a situation, but a few years back my little sister had a paper route. she did it with her friend and made as much as you would at any part time job. the paper was free, kids volunteered as there was an optional fee they could be tipped.
we moved to a 'nicer' rich area, we aren't rich but someone who was was renting out a house for a reasonable price in the area. my sister transfered her route to our new street and had to quit. she'd be so disappointed coming back with some pocket change after going through so many houses and trecking though multiple streets in the snow. And not a single person would ever tip even though they clearly had money to give a dollar to some kid for the newspaper.
I remember a story from a while ago too of a rich person complaining that all the 'poor' kids came to their house on halloween to get good candy...like how angry do you need to be at the world that poor kids are coming to your house on halloween.
Having money turns people evil.
I'd wager many of those are the folks who got wealthy via corruption, be it moral or financial one. The fellows who started low but become rich due to just being that good at what they do along with hard work on the other hand tend to be some of the nicest people on the planet. Seen both types.
Sooner or later you’re born and will die empty handed no one care because you are already dead after all 😮
@@roleat Sooner or later you’re born and will die empty handed no one care because you are already dead after all 😮
@@RiversJ Sooner or later you’re born and will die empty handed no one care because you are already dead after all 😮
In the book "The Psychopath Test", it's proposed that many if not most of the successful business men in the world are psychopaths. The traits of a psychopath lend themselves to success at the expense of others.
I never did believe those “psychopathic traits”
I think they started at the outcome and worked backwards as a way to surmise what causes things.
They may turn out to be true but it may also just be a thing and it may lead to many false positives to the point where there’s more false positives than actual positives.
For example; if Ed Gien liked ice cream does that mean anyone who likes ice cream has the potential to be a serial killer? Of course not, so why would liking money make you one?
Pretty much the only thing that makes you a psychopath is if you lack empathy… not that you’re unempathetic but that you simply are unable to feel empathy or remorse… it’s a pretty narrow definition that even Jean there doesn’t fit into.
Would a psychopath be a great businessman? Yea, absolutely. Does that mean most businessmen are psychopaths? Definitely not. I can’t think of a single business decision that would be beneficial solely on the grounds that it hurts people. Some decisions may seem callous, but it’s always give and take between the pros and the cons and any businessman worth anything knows you can’t be successful if you piss everyone off. You need to look no further than Martin Shkrelli to see that in action
@@Fetidaf You have no idea what the definition of a psychopath actually is. Try reading the book I mentioned, it's quite good.
@@ADBBuild Psychopath isn't a medical definition in the first place if the people that only talk in all caps on Psychology RUclips channels are to be believed. And everyone I ever see explain it pretty much agrees that it means "no empathy". So yeah, he very likely got it right, since majority opinion is how defining words works.
@@ADBBuild then should we go by what the definition is? Because that’s “someone with a chronic mental disorder who exhibits violent or abnormal social behavior”
Which the mental disorder in question is psychopathy which is “a disorder characterized by shallow emotional response, lack of empathy, impulsivity, and an increased likelihood for antisocial behavior”
So I am wrong; a psychopath wouldn’t make a very good businessman since the only way to really get ahead in business in through connections which someone who is anti-social probably wouldn’t have, and impulsiveness is the very last thing you want when making decisions… so I’ll give you that… lack of empathy which is the biggest characteristic of psychopaths would be beneficial though
@@Fetidaf Google what the PCL-R is.
One thing I learned from a history class once is that in the Middle Ages during the part where they had knights as we normally imagine them (towards the end), they'd often try to take other knights prisoner rather than killing them... That's because if the other person is a knight, they probably got a lot of money to be taken from ransoming... Additionally, you also would want to cause as little damage to their armor as possible because once they've surrendered you're going to strip them of it and damaged armor with dents and punctures in it doesn't sell as well as undamaged armor...
Oh yeah the practice of Ransom that also extended to regular people BTW also the Iberian Peninsula had a literal Ransom economy where Al Andalus and the Christian kingdoms made bank exchanging prisoners.
This "prisoner exchange" also nearly happened in the 3rd Crusade where Richard the Lionheart tried to ransom his Muslim prisoners to Saladin who has a number of Christian prisoners, but Saladin stalled and thus all the prisoners on both sides were executed. (sources don't agree whether or not the Muslim Prisoners families were also executed but it was said all the prisoners were executed in a very public manner.)
I learned this playing mount and blade warband
@@abridgedbog7753 One thing I think Mount & Blade gets wrong (although I've barely ever played it, so I'm just going off vague memories of big open battles)... Most battles in the Middle Ages were actually sieges... Ones fought out in open terrain (or at least, not with a castle/fort) like with the Battle of Agincourt were quite rare... Because there were so many castles all over the place a lot of warfare was about starving the enemy out, using cavalry to pick off people nearby trying to escape or deliver supplies, and then just doing damage with siege equipment and waiting... It was very uncommon for a battle to not involve some fortifications...
Another thing my professor taught us was that "horses are smarter than people" because when a horse sees a wall of spears it actually just refuses to run into it... They'll run up to it and the person riding on top can try and use a spear at the people forming the wall of spears, but the movie scenes where the horses are charging into walls of spears are not realistic... It was a class on Ancient & Medieval Warfare so we covered some myths about warfare in media...
With ancient warfare one interesting fact is originally horses were too small to carry people wearing a lot of armor and also they didn't have stirrups invented for awhile... This basically made it so for awhile in antiquity they ended up using chariots instead... Once stronger horses started becoming bred (ultimately eventually culminating into the huge Clydesdale breed) and equipment like stirrups were invented, horse mounted soldiers in heavy armor became a lot more viable later into antiquity and you got the cataphract which gradually evolved to be knights (although they didn't really look like what we recognize as knights immediately... The full heavy plate armor didn't really show up until near the end of the Middle Ages...)
@@RealmRabbit
There wasn't much that horsemen could do against "spear walls". If you're talking Greek phalanx, their formation was almost air tight and shielded as well.
If you're talking medieval pikemen their pikes were around 5 meters in length, generally much longer than lances (the longest cavalry weapons).
Even if you assume that cavalry had the same (or longer) reach, it would be meaningless to try to attack the pikemen, first of all, all of your momentum would disappear (horse stopping to turn, or turning) so your cavalry attack would have little force behind it, and secondly even if you did manage to get a pikemen like that, the others from the front row would make quick work of you, kill your horse, topple you off your horse and eventually kill you. It was just a trade you wouldn't want to make, even if you were able to kill 10 pikemen for every horseman, it would be a very bad deal to trade 1 knight for 10 pikemen.
Your cavalry was an amazing asset against pikemen IF you managed to break their formation (through artillery or archers).
It's also the fact that if you take your enemies hostage for ransom when you win the enemy is more likely to grant you the same favor in return if you lose
Love how videos come every week now. I remember the times where it really was an occasion when you dropped a vid
Lol I do remember that too
Same
Yeah usually you tubers upload less as they grow but qxir is the opposite and it’s awesome
thanks to Qxir I look forward to living another week now :D
It's still a special occasion for me tbh
"im a slow learner, I need to suffer before i can prosper"
damn, I felt that in my SOUL
God damn that ending hit me hard, sitting in the ER right now hoping my brother is gonna be okay. Love ya Qxir, the vid made my day.
That's a very unfortunate moment to listen to that part. Much strength to your brother, you, and your family. I'm sure he's going to recover.
@@lxik2677 thanks man, means a lot to me
Hope your brother is okay, good luck dude. Im a recovering opiate addict and I know how terrible it was on my family...
Wishing your brother a quick recovery!
praying for ya buddy. i just left the hospital. beat kidney cancer. but the dr found something he doesnt like so i have to go back oct 14th.
i wish him the best, bud!
My childhood may have been weird in that we were poor until I was about 10 years old and then we started becoming wealthy.
Over a decade before I was born, my dad started a business literally from nothing and had to fight for every inch. After working so hard just to scrape by the business finally took off and these days at 70 years old he mostly just sits back and watches the money roll in.
I respect and admire my dad for what he achieved. I doubt I could do it myself and I think at least some of the reason for that is I had a easier life than my dad did.
I'm not going to ask the business name, frankly I don't care. But what is his net worth?
@@jwalster9412 *OK wannabe kidnapper.*
@@airplanemaniacgaming7877 my thinking was that it would be more suspicious to ask for the business name, so I asked for the net worth.. anyways.. *any business you own, you want to talk about??*
Fun fact about this. I had a teacher tell me that in order to get back at the Jean Paul, they were thinking of what would anger him the most. So they put his whole art collection on display. For free. Hence, the Getty museum has free admission.
But Getty Images isn't free. RIP.
Qxir, my dear young man, you have already learned one of life's great lessons...For all the advantages great wealth can facilitate, it means nothing without empathy and compassion.
In Finland, a saying goes:
"The Good gives from the smallest amounts, the Evil not even from the biggest."
The lesson here is never kidnap a member of the tribe unless you have a means of beating the money directly out of the victim or one of those cool bomb collars.
Jean Paul Getty was English and Scottish, and he was raised Methodist. His father was a Christian Science practitioner. They aren’t Jews?
@@Pantsinabucket neo-nazis be retarded bro. Just let him be and pray he remembers he’s supposed to take his meds today
Yes Risher is a very british name. It sounds harsh but I kind of agree with the guy. The grandkid was a pretty useless druggie already, and also if you start forking out ransom money left and right it does encourage that sort of thing.
@@Pantsinabucket His mother was Jewish. That makes him Jewish.
@@glasstuna while I want to believe his mom's mom's last name is risher (nothing on her dad) so idk maybe jew maybe not if she was a jew well we know what that makes him
"A lasting relationship with a woman is only possible if you are a business failure" radiates pure sigma energy
more like incel unable to be loved and repelling others loser energy
Huh, weird, sigma is a funny way to say truth
@@lukesutton4135 Found the guy that gets no play.
mo money mo problems
@@lukesutton4135funny way to say you have no idea how to talk to women
Remember those sigma male memes? This guy adopted the persona and was extremely successful. Octafartillionaire grindset babyy
Kids & family are a money sink, never help them. Always grind.
#upyourgrindset
"Use your own kids for personal gain"
Gendollionaire grindset
I've seen the word grind used a few comments, what does it mean in this context and what is a grindset? Thanks if someone replies, if not, have a great day regardless.
@@JosephFuller we aren't serious here but grind means working for something or doing something repeatedly for wealth or power
Tough call on that ransom. IIRC Gambino's nephew was kidnapped and ransomed in the 70s, the logic was the same, that if it was paid then the rest of the family would be in danger due to the success of the kidnapping. It wasn't paid and they moidered him.
I wouldn't pay, but I sure as fuck would send a paramilitary force all across their families.
@@bobsvilla4168 interestingly enough, Gambino sent, of all people, John Gotti and a few others to deal with one of the reported kidnappers.
@Ratkill Thank you for the use of the word moidered here. 👌
@@bobsvilla4168 The Heineken approach
I'm 29 days sober, and this really hit me hard. My partner and I are still working on communication with each other in my sobriety, and the bit at the end really hit me hard and helped center my focus on why I'm doing what I'm doing. Thanks, Qxir.
Holy shit Qxir - wasn't expecting a poignant & thought provoking ending, well done lad.
I love how the last quote is still cold and callous. He doesn't regret not being loved or wants love. He only regrets that he is still human and can fail. lol what a peice of work.
Sooner or later you’re born and will die empty handed no one care because you are already dead after all 😮
What a delightful gentleman, will definitely be taking business advice from this guy!
However, relationship advices not so much.
no wonder all incels look upto him lmfao
I kinda think coming up from a lower class (I’m not saying poor because it’s a scale), taught my appreciation for money and a kindness for others.
Yeah, I've been homeless and it was rough. Years later I'm still so grateful for every night I have a roof over my head.
If I could have another go at things I'd make sure I didn't end up there but learning to appreciate what many take for granted is definitely a silver lining.
@@buggs9950 i dont know how im gonna live im not sure if i can tbh being 17 with the world the way it is now forced to live in a society and America drug abuse im not sure how much longer i wanna live tbh i just feel its all a simulation i mean last week i was drowning in a 12 foot deep pool so maybe it's a sign.
@@medievaltrap7285 Well I suppose you are a bit stuck at the moment 'cos of your age but once you're an adult no-ones forcing you to participate in mainstream society. There are lots of people living of the fringes or right out of it. It's hard, especially on your own but depending on how sociable you are there are little bands of people who look out for each other, some are a bit criminal to be fair but many aren't.
My current conclusion is that life is one long fight so grab it by the balls and squeeze.
Whatever you do do it to the maximum and make sure you do it before the pain consumes you 'cos resentment and bitterness follow and that's just miserable.
@@ContentConfessional empathy isn’t entirely learned, but also in our very nature. I disagree that it quickly atrophies when no longer needed. War time for example throws empathy out the window but soldiers are still haunted by what they have to do. Empathy can be corroded though, it just takes quite a while to do that. And when that happens it can be a very dangerous thing
Mr Burns + Mr Krab + Scrooge... all mixed up with a chemical X
Just a tip for a story for you, the Heineken abduction. There where movies made but I think it can use your story telling. Though he be the killer of many livers, he was actually a likeable guy.
Yes, I would love to see the Heineken kidnapping on this channel
"I'd probably end up like the child of a famous actor." Is that a shot at Chet Hanks lol
Jaden Smith be like
@@riograndedosulball248 Jaden is angel compared to chet
@@AnAdorableWombat chet has illuminati tats and he's a "good" rapper..cough cough
@@chucklebutt4470 believe what you want
“i’m a slow learner, i have to suffer before i prosper” felt that one hard dog.
A billionaire that could've been Batman, instead became the Joker.
Thing is, large scale philanthropy ends up with the billionaire thinking they know how to cure the world of it's ills - like wanting to block the sun out with a load of dust particles?
If money = power, and tons of money = absolute power, then billionairism is always going to lead to corruption (morally and ethically?).
It's why we've gone to Hell in a handcart.
Society
@@luciuscornelius7177 quick question (I wholeheartedly agree with what you said, it's more a question about you): where are you from? Bc I'm in America, and I've always heard the phrase as "hell in a handbasket" . So is that a cultural thing or am I just sheltered lol?
@@angelguerrero7655 England, where we also take things with a whole pinch of salt rather than just a grain 🧐
@@luciuscornelius7177 ah, I see. thanks very much brother, glad to know😎
Love you Qxir 😘 your accent is the best thing I’ve heard all day
I love this guy's self honesty, being aware that instead of being jealous of this billionaires circumstances, he's glad he wasn't born like that.
I'm the same way, and proud of it in my own mind. We've all had moments of jealousy, but I'm actually glad and feel blessed I've had to keep earning my own way up. If I was born with millions, I'd be a little shit or possibly dead already
A relative of these guys went on to direct the horror movie The Evil Within (originally titled 'The Storyteller', but he died before production finished - I'll get into that in a second)
He was left pretty fucked up by the events covered in this video, and had very little respect for his family as a result. After they all died, he took his inheritance, and decided to make a movie.
First mistake he made was buying all the equipment outright, instead of renting it, which is far, far more expensive.
Second was that he insisted on doing a lot of the in-camera effects himself. They look absolutely stunning in the movie, but they were incredibly time consuming to produce. After I think a year or two of this, he became obsessed, and would lock himself in his editing room for days at a time, which led to his wife leaving him. A few more years, and he died of a meth related stomach ulcer.
The Evil Within was released, I think, about a decade after filming wrapped. The effects and seemingly fluid time setting lend it an incredibly dreamy feel. It's truly one of a kind, and I can't recommend it enough.
I've typed all this up from memory, so it might not be 100% accurate; but if you're interested I encourage you to investigate yourself
Sooner or later you’re born and will die empty handed no one care because you are already dead after all 😮
Qxir, I've been a subscriber for a few years now, and while I've enjoyed every video you've made so far, this one was phenomenal. Especially the ending, that was just perfectly executed. It really feels like you have gotten into your element. I also really enjoy the regular video postings, but dont over-exert yourself if you don't have to.
It's pretty standard procedure these days to negotiate down a ransom, and then pay it. So I understand if he didn't rush to pay the first demand of $17m regardless of how insanely wealthy he was. But yes, the behaviour of him particularly after the ear was sent is pretty shocking. Once it was down to $3-4m you would think just pay up, that's now pocket change and the eyes of the world were on this.
Sooner or later you’re born and will die empty handed no one care because you are already dead after all 😮
It’s a double edged sword, if you pay the ransom then your family will still be targeted for other ransoms but it you don’t pay the one that is kidnapped could die. It isn’t as black and white as this case. Which reminds me, don’t go to the dangers parts of Mexico, especially if you’re are an American. For some stupid reason they think all Americans are rich and would ransom them. They have been known to kill the victim even if they received the money. My Grandfather was kidnapped down there luckily since he was Mexican and his American family had no money they let him go. So if you are an American and they find you have no money they will kill you right away, if you are an American and pay the ransom it’s a toss up that they will kill you. If you are of Mexican descent you chances are a little higher but not much. We just got extremely lucky.
Damn, that got deep. I'm going to call my cat right now and tell him I love him.
Woo-hoo, new content! Not complaining about the rate of new videos, just that after I stumbled across this channel I made the mistake of binging the whole thing in one weekend. Thanks for the interesting video.
I love your art for these characters as much as the story lmao
After watching the ending I called up several family members I had not spoken to for quite some time and told them how much I loved them. About $50 worth of ransom to be paid back at 19% interest.
I nearly died from an infection in my leg and was homeless & wheelchair bound while recovering. Not my brightest day.
I had no choice but to beg for money with a sign. I noticed quickly, corvettes, BMWs, challengers and nicer *never* gave you a dollar, but a barely running minivan would occasionally pull up and give you $20, which was much more than to be expected.
Saw multiple Lamborghinis. Most of my money came from Ford Focuses and the like.
Grifters ruined the panhandling profession long before you got there. Just about everyone of means has a story about giving a bum a chance or helping a bum out and getting burnt by it.
Getty was no doubt cold as hell, maybe to the point of being psychopathic, but he did have a point about potentially making his other grandchildren targets by paying the ransom. He is quoted as saying, “I have 14 other grandchildren and if I pay one penny now, then I will have 14 kidnapped grandchildren.”
PS. It'd be interesting to see Qixir discuss the link between psychopathy and business success.
One of my favorite channels man.
Greeting from Placerville Ca!!!!!
I used to do pizza delivery. Here in Australia tipping is not expected. But when I did get one, the tips were always from battlers, people on low income (like me). And some were quite generous. Deliver a pizza to a mansion and get a tip? Forget it! Never happened!
I also drove a limo for a while and same story. Picked an average Aussie couple up from the airport and got a $100 tip. A week later I drove an extremely wealthy Asian businessman to the airport and he gave me a $10 tip. Most passengers (or pizza eaters) didn’t tip and that’s fine, but when I did get tips they were from genuine people who wanted to show appreciation.
I found out later the Asian businessman had lost 450k at the casino the previous night. Maybe that 10 bucks was all he had left in his wallet.
And yes, I occasionally give tips for good service, even though I don’t have to.
Jean Paul's behavior actually makes a lot of sense as to why he was the richest man though. He never made a decision without thinking about his wallet, which is evil and admirable in its own sense.
Bro, your kind hearted message at the end meant so much especially where you are usually the king of smart-assery!!! Thank you so very much for all the incredible content with a joyful zest of narration! Have a great day....
You should cover the story of Mehran Karimi Nasseri. The guy stuck in an airport for years. Seems right up your alley. Great work as always.
I just Bought one of your Tales From The Bottle T shirts, this is a first for me, been online shit loads of years and RUclips from the start and this is the first time I have ever bought some 'Merch' as you young un's call it.
I love your videos, keep em coming, you are one of the few RUclipsrs I actually recommend to people.
Gotta love how even the richest man in the world at one point, still, at the end, swore he'd messed everything up and would be happier destitute with a loving family. Take note, today's million and billionaires (looking at you Bill and Jeff), that you might feel on top of the world now, but all men must die, and so far? There will be celebrations when those two die, and no amount of money can stop it. Enjoy your money while it lasts, boys, cause you can't take it with you when you die.
Those two have donated lots and lots of money to charity and they use their money as a way to help others? Instead of judging people just because of the wealth aren't you as equal as they are by your own logic? I mean your logic is sound but to worry about it is useless
@@leaf8175 Yeah and Bill made it by keeping us technologically stunted for decades and Jeff made it taking advantage of destitute workers. Who gives a crap about their tax write off philanthropy?
Uh. Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation? I'm guessing have never heard of it.
@Caleb OKAY again use your own philosophy, you won't have anything after death, to put it simply, judging others for their actions and saying a generalized statement that appeals to the masses like eat the rich is a weak point, me myself being a poor man I could care less about how much money people have or how much crimes people commit, to worry oneself with silly things is silly, it isn't to be compliance to no means but it is a losing battle that you would not want to wage war in
@@rwaitt14153 They give a pittance of their unfathomable wealth. Nobody calls me a philanthropist for giving away $500 when I make $30k a year. But because it happens to be millions when they make billions, suddenly they are absolved of their sins. Ever think maybe they do it for that exact reason? So you dont think of their disgusting wealth and instead think of their charity?
10:32 That last line actually gave me the chills.
Thats why millionaires are millionaires. And people like us, miserable with emotions and love are simply us. Its all relative though.
A poet once said "love less to, suffer lesser". Peace to all
Didn't the poet also know how to use commas?
@@argenisjimenez8118 of course, he is also subject to typo, and he is not studying for his finals. Smh!!!!
My ABSOLUTE favorite RUclipsr is back with yet another AWESOME video!
With all respect, Qxir is filling the void that Sam O’Nella left in our hearts.
“He had installed a pay phone at home” LOLOL
Haven't watched the entire thing but the reason he didn't pay is because his grandson had mentioned numerous times he would stage a fake kidnapping to get money from his grandfather.
The kid was not an angel
While the grandkid was not an angel, Getty still refused to pay the ransom for months after the family & the police confirmed that it was not fake or a hoax. His family might not have been angels, but Getty was a complete arsehole.
At this rate, if that's true, I understand the grandfather. I'd have a hard time trusting someone who extorts me like that.
"...he was a rebellious teen, getting kicked out of school for vandalism. He adopted his father and stepmother bohemian lifestyle, leading an aimless life of hedonism and partying..."
I wouldn't pay his ramson either...
It’s wild to think that the biggest villain in your life is not the people who kidnapped you, but your own grandfather.
One silver lining to his story. I had been planning to go out in that exact same way. I've now changed my mind knowing what I would face if I screwed up. Which I probably would. So at least his story saved a life for the same being.
Yeah man, you have to burry that ideia deep down, and defeat it as many time as you can, at a point that you finally learn to love yourself and never let anything destroy your peace again.
I love this show. And the man that created it.
Man, when is this channel going to blow up? Your hilarious. My type of humor.
I'm from Minnesota, currently and my whole life. Never heard of him.
Cheers from MN Qxir! Your channel is that shit, breh
Ay me too, this place sucks rn
Mostly oil money. They also own a shit ton of photo copyrights if you've heard of Getty images among other things.
@@FrankBoothPBR actually bro holy shit I have. I don’t remember where tho
@@northlandgaming8460 I think most photos of famous people or historical photos in the last 60 or so years that are copyrighted and in magazines, on the internet, on TV etc. are owned by Getty images.
@@FrankBoothPBR that must be what it is. I know I’ve seen it on a bunch of older photos and videos. Gonna look into that
That striking postman in the vest... just brilliant for some reason.
"Call up your loved ones and tell them how much they mean to you."
[But call your accountant first to figure out EXACTLY how much they mean to you]
"Probably too busy kicking puppies" that caught me a little off guard and laughed a tad too hard 😅 your sense of humor always gets me 🤣
I took your advice at the end of the video and it turns out my cousin was having a really tough time at uni. I hope I made it a bit better
That quote at the end where he said that he would give up all his millions. For a marital success is a total lie, this guy was absolutely soulless
Yeah, I have a relatively rich uncle who called me "his son" after my mum killed herself then turned his back on me when I needed help to protect a new and successful design/invention which all the banks were beginning to use, and now I'm actually homeless with no family! He also blamed me for his sister's death. So, the love of money can make people mad with greed.
P.s. Don't worry about me, it taught me a lesson more valuable than money!
Good thing you still support Qxir
Don't worry its always the case throughout history just look at what happened to the Praetorians.
I love when people say they are poor or homeless or some shit on the internet. Hate it for them...but poor was very different when I was a kid. Poor people were not even worth burying. Just to know poor people have clothes now is so cool. Again sucks for them but it makes me happy to see the difference.
That message in the end was really impactful
8:00 Makes me wonder if he was truly a business genius and family man. Think about it, he can write off the 2.2m and by loaning his son 800k with interest he absolutely ensures its a ransom without being extorted himself. Through all of that, he removes the risk from all his other grandchildren/children. He probably chose the least minimal impact scenario for everyone and everything he had. I'm trying to see this from his prospective, any emotion would be a point of weakness for people to exploit him or his family.
17 million isn't really that much to a multi billionaire. While he crunched numbers with his accountant they cut his son's ear off which got horribly infected while waiting and he still haggled on the amount. Then the greedy prick made his one ear 16 year old son pay him back! With interest!! I would choose my child over money every time.
As far as I understood it it was the son who had to pay back with interest, not the 16 year old ‘grandson’..
@@Goblineng yeah I bet if he was the one kidnapped it would have gone different.
@@Goblineng Is that not the perfect thing to do to ensure the saftey of all his kids and grandkids? Think about it, you have that much money, even if you pick up the phone and tell them anything like "don't worry about it, anything for you, glad you are ok" any statement of concern puts every last one of his relatives at risk. To be honest i just think he chose to be one of the best businessmen in the world and inherited problems that he could only solve by being the way he was. A lot of it can be spun in a negative light because of his wealth, but what it boils down to is all the possible consequences of acting as a 'decent human' should. Who knows how he felt or what happened in the background. I seen a very interesting story, but nothing that screamed he was cold, because why even pay at all if he really was that cold?
The payphone in his house is sly though. everything else seemed to be unique to his situation. I just doubt he didn't care about his family enough for money that is insignificant to him, makes no sense. seems more like he fooled everyone into thinking there is little point kidnapping his family and little point making plots within the family to do so either.
Qxir i reallylove your Doodles. one more reason to look forward to Fridays
Don't worry about the pronunciation of 'ndrangheta,it was perfect
I already knew the tale but Qxir, you blew it out of the park. My favorite video yet I reckon!
J. Paul Getty - the richest man in the world at the time - paid ransom.
- and for fooks sake, the second I hit _post_ he says _J. Paul Getty._ ..patience pays, I guess.
I love your videos man...and also thanks for reminding us how lucky we are ... and for making me cry with that ending you bastard
Wish you the best
"I hate to be a failure. I hate and regret the failure of my marriages. I would gladly give all my millions for just one lasting marital success."
That hit hard. I'm married and often forget how lucky I am. I can sometimes be selfish as well. Putting the wrong things first.
Sometimes I take things for granted maybe.
If she wasn't sleeping right now I would hug and kiss her and tell her that I love her and appreciate everything she does.
I'm working class and far from being rich and I wouldn't swap my wife for any amount of money.
Not any amount, even for a ransom. You must be worse than jean Paul, at least he came up with something.
@@pliat lol Funny guy ;)
So strange. I was just thinking about your channel and I always forget the name. Then ya post this it is my lucky day!
The man's like "You gotta sign here for the loan."
"I'm kidnapped."
"Cool I'll add more interest then."
wow Qxir.... that outro really speaks levels.. chills man, chills..
You should do a video on the Russian mafia. I was surprised to find out how large it was. Not to mention that they have ties with the Italian mafia in the US.
Russian mafia is huge and ruthless. their "made" members usually wear a tattoo on the front part of their shoulders (so you can see it if you look at them from the front) of a star on each side if I remember correctly. They are not setup the same way as the Italians tho. they have a different hierarchy and structure and definitely different standards but they are more ruthless than la cosa nostra. reading about them is interesting
Favourite drawing of a hand.... Ever...
"Take my strong hand!!!"
Perfection.
The ultimate sigma male grindset
Reject family, Embraces Arabic Oil Money
-Billionaire Investor Grindset
I followed your advice and gave my family a call, and what a great piece of advice! Now I'm getting 3% interest (I was feeling generous).
Soulless riches, here I come!
That's why in Asia we say that no matter how rich you are, if you don't educate your offsprings well, your money will only last 3 generations.
5:21 Italian here, perfect pronunciation, and Calabria is indeed a fantasy land
Oh, that guy who made Getty museum
Didn’t know he was that evil.
10:08 Truer words never has been spoken.
The reason rich people don't give money away? Simple. You don't get rich by giving money away.
The quote you had at the end my friend was one of the most beautifully written sentences ever constructed
i always say it, and ill say it again
Its a good day when Qxir uploads!
Those last sentence were . . . pretty good... Keep "em videos going!
Too bad he came up with that final quote when he had one foot in the grave, the other on a banana peel, ya know? How many times does one have to lose a favored item, a spot of cash, or a lover before you figure out that money in the bank can’t buy anything if yer too damn stingy to spend it… and it will never fill yer heart…