SEF Small Engine Fuel (pre mix) 2 cycle engine fuel review. VP fuel, is it worth it?
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2017
- This summer I began running SEF2-cycle engine fuel in my chainsaw and it now runs like a champ. My heat soak issues have disappeared and I can re start the chainsaw at any time during my work day.
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I can tell you 5 years later I've got a Troy-Bilt lawn mower with Honda engine and a 25cc 2-stroke Troy-Bilt curb fixed line weed eater. I run SEF 4 stroke(Red can) in my Mower an SEF 2 Stroke(Purple can) in the weed eater and do it for years now and I can tell you that that is the way to go for storage and Longevity purposes in small engine devices..
I agree. I’m still running that chainsaw and the fuel is a huge factor in its function
I'm on my 3rd 1 gallon gas of the same premix this year. I have no problems. I use it in my weed whip and leaf blower for my small mowing business. One gallon of SEF premix last me about a month and a 1/2.
SEF is pricey but I mainly keep it around unopened as a chainsaw fuel for emergencies.
VP says it has a 5 year shelf life in an unopened can and a 2 year shelf life in the gas tank of your 2 stroke machine from the date it was manufactured. I’ve been using it for a couple of years in all my 2 stroke engines and it has cured the hard starting and excessive smoking in my tools. I don’t winterize my tools anymore since I’ve been using VP, I put them away at the end of October and bring them back out in March and they fire up in a few pulls just fine.
That is great news! Thank you!
That's been my experience with Tru Fuel and Husqvarna XP canned fuels. Tried going back one season to pump fuel and guess what? Had to replace the carb on my Stihl blower. I'll spend money now and have equipment that runs rather than spend money later to repair or replace equipment that doesnt.
Walmart had a clearance $2.50 a can, I cleared them out.
Don Frazier Usually they clearance out some of the inventory at the end of the summer.
Just left there myself. Same scenario for me 😀
I've love VP 2 cycle oil I run it alot !
Sef multimix runs extremely well in my small 2 stroke engines
I use to buy motomix at my local stihl dealer. Well they stop selling it and I started buying trufuel. Both worked good in all my equipment. I was in Walmart one day buying garden seeds and happened upon on this sef fuel. I bought a gallon for $18.00 or so. It runs cleans and strong in all my equipment. It’s cheaper than motomix or truefuel. I’m sticking to this because it’s cheaper and I can find it locally.
I love it and for as little as I use my chainsaw now, it is good to keep a few cans on standby for emergencies.
I just wanted to mention that tru fuel is only 110 ounces and the SEF is 128 ounces (an actual gallon). Some "gallon" premix cans contain less than a gallon, so SEF would be the better deal.
My local dollar general had these on clearance for $2.50 a can, then yesterday they were only$.75! Lol I bought the last 10 cans for under 8 bucks. This stuff is pretty good for all my 2 stoke equipment.
Ryan Starks That’s awesome! I just used some of mine yesterday and it had been sitting on my shelf for a year. No issues at all.
That's only 3.00 a gallon! It costs me about $5.00 to make my own no ethanol mix and about $20 per gallon canned normally. Great score. Do they stock it regularly?
When it comes to ethanol and small engines, I say no. I've had a lot of issues with it and even managed to wreck an engine after the ethanol damaged the carburetor and dumped so much gas in it got in the crank case while running. For two cycles, I use no less than 89 octane mixed with the Echo Red Armor oil. It has stabilizers to last up to two years.
I just bought a can of that SEF 2-cycle fuel at WallyWorld this morning = $4.79. (5/1/18) That's all I'm putting in my new ECHO weed eater that I bought new last year. It is running great, even started right up this spring after sitting in my shed all winter. - If you think that SEF fuel is expensive per quart do the math ... how much $ is a little 2.6 oz. bottle of that 2-cycle oil? (about $3.50 here) + how much $ per gallon is non-ethanol fuel at your local gas station? (about $2.69 here) = The pre-mix SEF 2-cycle fuel works good for me. ;)
jims1942 I agree. I've also noticed better post heat soak starts where before I've had to let the chainsaw sit and cool down before using it again. Not anymore.
I like it, its extremely expensive but my weed eater loves it! Maybe even higher rpms, at least it sounds like it has increased
Yup
mine too
I've used that and the Tru-fuel versions. That's the best way to go. Active months it can get expensive over time. I do recommend this product for storage. Pump gas will go sour over winter unless you take everything in the shed and start them once a month. That's a pain. Most 2 cycle gear needs high test gas. 87 won't cut it especially on older stuff. It's best to use the non ethanol premium gas, but it's rare to find. Also it's expensive. I have used premium with Lucas ethanol treatment added to the mix. I haven't had any engine fails yet on equipment 3 years old. Some stuff over 5 years old has had carburetor kits put in. Never had any ethanol problems with push & riding mowers. Those can run on the 87 octane. The premixed gas in a can usually has a 95 octane rating. You may can take the 87 and add Moroso 104 to it. I never tried it. This will get the octane up to the level 2 cycles need.
I agree! I’ve stored unopened cans of this for two years and opened it for emergency situations to help family members with fallen trees and branches on their driveway and the chainsaw just starts right up.
For reasons unknown I am unable to post a picture of my problem fuel.
It's a gallon can of premix 2cycle fuel. I don't remember where I bought it.
SEF (on the can) I can't find who to contact but this brand new can had a bunch of water in it.
I had no idea why I couldn't get to restart. I took it to the Stihl dealer to fix it....$45 later And hear I am.
Sorry to bother you however if you have a contact for this product I would be thankful.
Interesting. I wonder if the fuel was improperly stored or maybe the seal on the can was broke and moisture got in. Here is the number for the company that I featured...VP Racing fuels...(210) 635-7744
Ethanol gas has been in use for quite a while now. Nobody makes fuel lines that don't deteriorate in the presence of ethanol? Or is it that the manufacturers want the fuel lines to crumble so people go out and buy new equipment every 3 or 4 years?
Rd Fc I think that the manufacture has not changed the composition of hoses, seals, etc that can resist long term ethanol exposure.
So, I had no idea they even sold pre mixed fuel. I bought a can and ended up mixing 2.6 oz of this with a gallon of gas and ran my weedeater for about thirty mins. I knew something wasn't right, because the fuel I mixed still looked like straight gas. My weedeater was acting sluggish and I took a second look at the can and realized what I had done. Do you think I ruined my weedeater? It does start, but I don't want it to stop running in the middle of a customers yard.. I know there wasn't near enough oil in the fuel, but hoping there was enough to keep it lubricated
Good question about damage. I would say take the weed eater in an have the carburator and lines drained. I'm not sure if you did damage but 2 cycle engines can be very finnicky with the gas to oil ratio. I have a ryobi weedeater that takes a weird ratio I can't buy pre mixed and if I don't get it just right, it runs poorly. If you want to save a few $$$ you can always make your own premix if you don't want to buy SEF.
@@travisp11 thanks for the reply! I ended up dumping it out and putting the correct mix in. I believe I got lucky this time, because the weed eaters running strong. Awesome channel btw
@@pshhnah4199 Right on! I'm glad she fired up! Yeah, I'm not much of power tool channel but we help where we can!
Another sad thing is that the EPA wants ethanol in the gas and it costs consumers millions or billions to repair or replace equipment that gets ruined by it.
Yup!
I buy fuel stabilizer and add 2oz to every gallon of gas with 4oz of oil to every gallon of gas which is a 32:1 ratio. And my gasoline last for over a year with the oil in it, i have no starting issues at all and it idles perfectly. I have been doing this for years and in my 5th scale rc cars.
Sounds like a solid mix. Are you adding Sta Bil or is there a certain brand and type that you use?
@@travisp11 yes I use Sta bil the red liquid one, it makes your idle great easy starts and best performance.
@@BIGGBULLxxx Ok! Thanks!
@@BIGGBULLxxx what about all the other additives that gas station non ethanol gas has in it like olefins and aromatics? Seems like it would be worth it especially in your rc cars to run a 99% Alklate fuel as opposed to gas station 80%ish even when ethanol free. Have you tried it? It's also higher octane by probably 5 to 7 octane...just some food for thought. I'd definitely store them with trufuel or Stihl pre mix if nothing else.
@@allaboutroofing2 I don't know about all that stuff your talking about. But what I have been doing works well for me so I will stick to it. Because I'm not in a competitive race. But thanks for the reply.
Wont run nothing but pre mixed in all my 2 cycle motors! Always starts first or second pull and starts right up after sitting for the season!
Same here! Maybe if I used one daily I'd mix my own but that's about it.
@@travisp11 ya me too! But for around the house its the way to go!
Several nearby locations sell ethanol free gas for about 7+$ per gallon. Cost effective to buy ethanol free gas and mix your own.
Out here in Nebraska, ethanol free gas is readily available and only about .30-.50 cents more per gallon. I like the idea of doing a pre mix but it is hard to beat the shelf life and convenience of having cans of SEF. For larger jobs I would mix my own, definitely.
Your getting swindled at $7.00 per gallon for gas station non ethanol. 🤣 Like another said, it's usually about .30 more than E10 premium... Maybe $3.75 per gallon right now and that's after getting shanked by the Biden admin.
@@allaboutroofing2, this is the price in California and since I first posted additional California gas taxes have been imposed. I hope to add to the hundred of thousands of “refugees” that have fled kalifornia. Beware States that are somewhat free, “Hug a thug Pretty Boy” California Governor Gavin Newsom has his eyes on the White House, you must stop the cancerous spread of the Democratic politics or your gas prices will skyrocket and your guns will disappear and much more. Take a look at the list of California approved guns.
I like the idea but how can it be both 40:1 and 50:1?
I have been trying to figure that out for years. If it is about a blended ratio my only thought is that they use a high quality synthetic oil mixed with a high octane rating it functions as both ratios.
HOW TO USE IT? JUST PUT IT IN WITHOUT MIXING IT?
Hai Nguyen Yup. The oil is already mixed in. Stuff works great!
for several year's, (probably over 10), only use true fuel and or sef, in all my 2 stroke's, also prefer the E3.12 spark plug, on all My 2 stroke's, leave tanks full, 24/7, all year, and my day's of small 2 stroke engine problem's, are long over,,,,, today's gasoline, from station's, suck ! sef, n true worth the extra $ for sure !!
I agree. Mine start right up with it!
@@travisp11 NO Problem's Bro !! began to hate 2 stroke engine's, before discovered fef, tru, and E3.12 plug's !
@@TheYohan831 Right on! In my Stihl, I only run their pre mix fuel but in the Craftsman it's SEF all the time.
I hate it when you use it and stop and unable to start again...I use VP fuel..
Could i just add that straight away to my engine with out measuring it
As long as your engine is rated for the mix ratio on the can, SEF is pre mixed and ready to go.
Soooo buy expensive premix because the cheap pump gas is pretty much crap? Interesting.
autonomous2010 No. I stated my advantages of premix.
This runs literally the same in my engines when I mix my gas with oil.
And in theory it should so long as the ratio of oil to fuel is the same. I just prefer he convenience of always having it on standby without too much worry about the fuel going bad and for the little that I actually have to cut now that the trees are finally down on our property, it is convenient. Expensive...yes, but also convenient.
It won't store the same. You should consider buying a can even if you're cheap since it's far better on the carb, even if you already have ethanol free there are advantages to pure fuel without out gas station additives. If you are using ethanol 10% don't store it for more than about 30 days or it will start to do damage.
So do you just put the sef byitself or not
Yes, it is ready to go right out of the can. Dont mix anything with it.
@@travisp11 I dont think I got the same one do they sell the same brand with an option to mix yourself
@@gabe-gt9fb I’m not sure. They may but they also make another variety with a different octane blend
I know when I need my chainsaw to run, I need it to run! I was chasing these campers through the woods once, they were having hot unprotected sex in an abandoned summer camp, pffffff kids, ya know what I'm sayin'. And next thing ya know, mid swing, my fuckin' chainsaw cuts out! I'm like "fuck sprinkles", goddamn harbor freight, always at the most inopportune times! Well......turns out I was usin' crappy gas! So, after I cleaned the leftovers of these meddling kids from my machete, I headed my crusty ass straight to walleyworld. And guess funkin' what? That sumbitch fired right up after pourin' in some SEF! I'll tell ya what, the body counts are a-risin' at the camp this year and I couldn't be happier!!!! THANKS TRAVISP11!
MidnightRangeTM Dude, I think you just wrote the SHTF prologue for RockHumper.
travisp11 actually I was gonna leave a second comment n say take that rockhumper lol.
MidnightRangeTM the torch hath been passed
RockHumper whoa whoa whoa! I donno bout all that. But a horror based shtf storytime would b fun!
MidnightRangeTM Maybe at the start of season 2 we could start with everyone telling campfire stories and this could be one of our stories.