Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master - Unboxing + Complete features description
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Unboxing and Complete features description of Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master motherboard. Incudes: all accessories, lengths of all cables, M.2 drive compatibility, PCI-E slots speeds - connectivity and restrictions, description of all connectors, ERP power saving mode, BIOS flashing.
Motherboard in the video:
GIGABYTE X570 AORUS Master - amzn.to/3lQoKvS
GIGABYTE X570S AORUS Master - amzn.to/30v73to
(The "S" version has - 16 phase VRMs, USB 3.2 Gen2x2, 4x M.2 slots and a passively cooled chipset)
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Update (8.4.2020):
This MB also exists in rev1.1 which adds as Gigabyte website states:
"1 x Thunderbolt™ add-in card connector (Only rev1.1 available)".
Reviewed MB is rev1.0 and doesn´t have this feature. It has an empty space for it close to SATA ports. It is evident that the manufacturer planned this upgrade since the beginning of the production, but didn´t implement it into the first version of the MB (reasons unknown).
40 Gb/s Intel® Thunderbolt™ 3 Certified Add-in Card - compatible with rev1.1 of the MB
GC-TITAN RIDGE (rev. 1.0) - www.gigabyte.c...
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can i update bios with 5000 series cpu in board or i must use Q flash ?
Simple question - long answer ;) If you get lost in it - just ask :)
It depends on which version of BIOS your motherboard has now preinstalled + there is a difference between “Q-flash” (in BIOS - update process is visible on the monitor) and “Q-Flash Plus” (without CPU installed, no monitor needed) - just to be sure we are on the same page.
Here are the possibilities and solutions:
1) If you have version „F30“ installed on you motherboard you can update with your Ryzen 5000 CPU in board (placed in AM4 socket) to latest version „F31o“ ( latest at the time of this post) using standard „Q-Flash“ in the BIOS (watching the update on your monitor, with mouse and keyboard connected).
2) If you have an older version than version „F30“ installed - you will either need to have Ryzen 3000/2000 CPU installed in your AM4 socket to do it - and use standard „Q-Flash“ in the BIOS (watching the update on your monitor, with mouse and keyboard connected).
OR
3) You can use „Q-Flash Plus“ function (without Ryzen 5000 CPU installed in your AM4 socket - using “Q-Flash Plus button” on the rear IO)
Q-Flash Plus will update the main BIOS only if run without the CPU installed!! The system will shut down upon completion.
Before you use “Q-Flash Plus”, follow the steps below in sequence:
Preparation phase:
Before using the Q-Flash Plus function, make sure that your system is off (S5 shutdown state). (Power supply is connected to electricity, it is in power switch is ON, but system is NOT running)
Your motherboard has a BIOS switch and a SB switch, reset them to their default settings.
(Default setting for the BIOS switch: Boot from the main BIOS - position “1” like in my video)
(Default setting for the SB switch: Dual BIOS - position “1” like in my video)
Action:
1. From GIGABYTE's website, download the latest compressed BIOS update file that matches your motherboard model (at the time of this post 16/12/2020 it is - „F31o“).
2. Uncompress the downloaded BIOS file, save it to your USB flash drive, and rename it to GIGABYTE.bin. Note: The USB flash drive must use the FAT32/16 file system (if it´s not FAT32 format it first before uploading BIOS file - if you don´t know how to format it to FAT32 file system - watch my video here for this part - ruclips.net/video/YjxoMC0r_0k/видео.html
3. Insert the USB flash drive into the white USB port on the back panel.
4. Connect the power cables to the 12V power connector (connect either one if there are two - 8pins) and main power connector (24 pin).
5. Press the Q-Flash Plus button and the system will automatically search and match the BIOS file in the USB flash drive on the white USB port. The QFLED and the Q-Flash Plus button on the rear panel will flash during the BIOS matching and flashing process. Wait for 2-3 minutes and the QFLED will stop flashing when the BIOS flashing is complete.
After the main BIOS is flashed, the system will reboot automatically and then DualBIOS™ will continue to update the backup BIOS.
After completion, the system will reboot again and boot from the main BIOS.
@@MartinsLab thank you.. so prntscr.com/w4wjjg this might be my bios ver. ?
@@MartinsLab ruclips.net/video/449N8h2GdlU/видео.html
@@MiroslavJahelka Ideal - visual always helps. Thanks for posting it here! Whoever else reads this - USE THE LINK ABOVE to see how an update using "Q-Flash Plus" works.
@@MartinsLab one more...sry... but.. where the fck I find on the board manufactured version of the original bios? I need to know the version of bios before I start to build that PC :D
This is more helpful than the actual manual for the thing. Good job.
Thanks! Glad it was useful.
Thank you Martin! Very much appreciate this video, I purchased this board and I am doing a build on it and it helps having content such as yours that goes into detail on feature sets instead of having to stick our noses into manuals all day.
Hi Nelson, glad it helped, good luck with your build!
If you want to see a complete installation of a PC where this motherboard is used, have a look at my "Build guide" video - ruclips.net/video/qB31vdRlIHg/видео.html
These topics are covered in it, you´ll find links leading directly to each of these parts in the description of the video:
Installing the standoffs inside the case for the motherboard (MB)
CPU cooler installation 1. - Noctua Secufirm2 mounting system - attaching to the MB
CPU installation into AM4 socket on the MB (AMD Ryzen 3900X)
M.2 SSDs Installation (different sizes and keys explained)
Applying thermal compound (paste) on the CPU - REAL TIME
Installing RAM modules into memory slots on the MB
CPU cooler installation 2. - Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 (HS+fans)
Preparation for the first test run before entering the BIOS
Entering the BIOS for the first time - REAL TIME - testing
Updating the BIOS - whole process (download to update)
Disconnecting cables&GPU from the MB after BIOS update
Installing heatsinks on SSDs and removing original stickers
Preparing cables before installing the MB into the case
Screwing the MB into the case
Connecting case cables to the MB (power&data)
Installing the graphics card (GPU) to the MB
I've just installed this motherboard... You explain the features, input/output functions much better than the manual. Thanks and Awesome job!
You´re welcome, enjoy your new motherboard!
Wonderful detail! I wish you had enabled chapters. You still can if you edit the description. 😁
excellent and professional review, I subscribed and Liked and Turned on the bell on, please Continue uploading on youtube
Thanks! Will push myself to upload more 😉 Next one is already in production.
im planning on including this motherboard in my build and searched for many videos featuring it to review, and your video was the best to give straight forward and high quality description thank you and have a nice day
Hi Mario, glad you liked it, have a nice day too!
Thank you for this video. You explained everything I wanted to know 🖐🏼🧛🏻♂️
Best Review on the Master I have seen! Great Job!
Thanks :)
Really great video. Very useful. There is also a unique aesthetic and clear, comprehensible structure. I really look forward to you sticking to this formula as your production quality improves.
Thanks! The structure will stay - I already used it on another MB (went into more detail there). When it comes to video production, this was my seventh video, so I´m a beginner and have plenty to learn.
This video is so detailed and helpful! So different than other channels that unbox the products. Subscribed!
Glad it helped :) Thanks for the sub!
This was great! Thank you for sharing this!
No problem, glad you enjoyed it :)
this was amazing and will be very helpful; my board arrives tomorrow. thanks.
Glad you liked it. Good luck with your new build!
Good series. I've used many of the same parts for my rendering build. That Aurus Master is an impressive MoBo!
Agreed, I´ve been using it for one year and so far so good.
Thanks, I understand 80% your explaining .your english is fine.
Muchas Gracias.
Glad to hear that :) I´m not a native speaker so I´m trying my best to pronounce clearly. You´re welcome.
This video is very helpful and detailed. I recommend people watch this video before buying this motherboard!
Glad you liked it :-)
Update 1.5.2021 - Recently, there was a new version of BIOS released "F33j" for this motherboard which contains a fix for USB 2.0 devices stability issues - it is using the long awaited AMD AGESA ComboV2 1.2.0.2 update. (It also contains optimizations for Ryzen 5000 CPUs from previous BIOS release)
Link: www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios
I'm a bit late, but I bought this board today to match my ryzen 7 5800x should be a perfect match. Great video!
Thanks! It´s never too late to buy a good board 😉
I just put one together last week and must say.... it's a GOOD board.
Agreed, I did a lot of testing and overclocking on it - and so far so good.
Thanks for all the really well thought out and in depth information. Subscribed!
Thanks for the sub!
Martin should have more subs, great vids
This was great. I realised I had placed my M.2 card in the position that was least effective. Thank you for the effort you have made to produce this video. It has been really appreciated.
Could you please do a similar Video on women, in particular the version after the wedding.
Hi Paul, thanks! The „women after the wedding” video could be done, but raw data would have to be obtained from secondary sources, because I have zero personal experience with that use case. I wish I could help. However, I am a decent analyst, so I might be able to compare versions „v0“ (before) and „v1“ (after) if provided with statistically significant amount of evidence. I am guessing that interesting behavioral patterns could be found. For now, you´ll have to do with knowledge of efficient placement of M.2 NVME SSD 😉
Great info well presented. I'm building one into a Define 7 right now. Components today, cabling tomoz.
Thanks. Define 7 is a good choice, it was on my short list as well.
Thank you Martin! What a terrific video for someone who has been searching RUclips for this kind of content on this specific board, droner and graphic artist. I have huge demands I'm trying to support, including adding a Drone Simulator software for further practice training. Hard to keep up with the the changes of technology, but really enjoy learning and acquiring the skill sets to help myself. A huge learning curve, but determined to understand to know how I need my system built. I also picked up the EVGA RTX 3800 XC Ultra Video Card and hoping this will sufficiently support the DJI Simulator software, as well as all the creative content post editing and rendering I will need. I'm still trying to understand how many fans for exhausting and cooling I will need. I have not updated the cooler that comes with the Ryzen 9 3900x, but wonder if I should go to a Deepcool Castle 360EX radiator for the Ryzen vs. the Wraith Prism that comes with it. If you can comment, I would greatly appreciate any suggestion you can offer. Thanks again for such a thorough video on this motherboard!!! ;-)
Hi Athena, you´re welcome! How I understand your situation is that you´re building a new computer and have already picked up CPU Ryzen 3900X with stock Wraith Prism cooler, GPU - EVGA RTX 2800 XC Ultra Video Card (3800 serries from nVIDIA aren´t on the market yet - or you have special connections?) and motherboard Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master. These components are all fine for both the Simulator and video editing/rendering. By picked up you meant, you´ve already bought it or have chosen it to buy?
You´ll also need to get at least 16 GB RAM - recommended by DJI for the simulator. I personally wouldn´t go under 32 GB, especially if you plan on doing video editing - and would get 2x16GB modules ideally running at 3600 MHz, CL 16-19-19-39 (G.SKILL Trident Z Neo for example - good price/performance). I have already tested it with this MB and it works great.
To answer your question about cooling in a useful way, I´ll need to know if you have already chosen a PC case and if not, if you have any preferences? (how many hard drives/SSDs you want to use or what capacity do you need to have for you projects, will you use any other expansion cards etc). The choice of the case has impact on the choice of the cooler and its mounting (how it is installed), because not all cases have the same internal dimensions and allow installation of 360 radiators - like the Deepcool you mentioned.
Generally for a system with the components you´ve chosen I would recommend NOT using stock Wraith Prism cooler (gets loud - spins very fast, when the CPU is in all core load - rendering - and doesn´t keep the temperatures low enough to enable using its full potential) and getting something stronger. I consider Wraith only as a temporary solution - only if you have nothing else. So, the Deepcool would be definitely better.
However, there are more great options like Noctua NH-D15 if you want to use air cooler (long term most reliable) or cheaper and still great water cooler like ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 - yet not as nice looking - doesn´t have RGBs. Depends if you want both better cooling and RGBs as well.
To your questing about the number of fans - generally for the components you´ve chosen, you should have a case with at least 2 front fans in the case for air intake (2x 120 mm or 2x 140 mm - better) and 1 exhaust fan 1x140 mm at the back. All running between 1000 - 1200 rpm (higher speed of the fans doesn´t mean better here, becase it also produces more noise - so a balance has to be found between cooling performance and noise it produces). Fans can be regulated by the 4 pin headers on the motherboard or on the case controler - depends on which case you choose - thats also why I am asking about the case.
If have more questions let me know ;) We´ll solve this.
Also the socketed main bios is helpful if you do actually damage the chip which is hard to do
Thank you very much. It is a fantastic demo I learn a lot. Thank you
You are welcome!
I ordered mine i wish 3rd m.2 slot works independently not sharing with 2 SATA ports. Excellent detailed presentation
Thanks, unfortunately we´re out of luck, the number of PCI-E lanes on x570 chipset is limited, only a Threadripper or an external PCI-E SATA / U2 adapter could solve this problem (that’s what I am planning on using)..
Thank you for explaining so well.
You are welcome!
Wow no video in yb well explained like this one !
Subscribed
Hi karimu! Glad you liked it, thanks for the sub :)
Hi Martin, Thank you for a detailed and comprehensive coverage. I saw this video twice. One doubt, there are two CPU power headers, is it mandatory to power both the CPU power headers?
Hi CK THIRU, the manual doesn´t say if its mandatory or not (so its a grey area), but if you are planning on overclocking, than I´d say it is mandatory. The benefit of having both 8 pin connectors connected is, that you will probably be able to load each of the rails on the PSU less, which might improve the stability of the system and allow you to draw more power if necessary. I´d personally connect both 8 pins - as seen in the build video mentioned at the top.
From a functional stand point, I tried running it with only one 8 pin connected (just to test it) and it worked fine (when not overclocked). If you want more detail about the testing with only one 8 pin connected check my answer to @Nuri in the discussion.
Great video, so detailed!
Thanks :)
Very nice detail explanation
Thanks!
Very well made video. Thanks!
Glad you liked it :)
Awesome video! I’m going for the same board.
Thanks, good choice!
Really detailed video. Great job.
One question. Is it better if I install a set of 64gb(16gbx4) ram and populate all the slot or just install a set of 64gb(32gbx2) and only use 2 slots of ram? Thanks 😁
Hi JTim! thanks 😊 The answer is a little more complex. It depends of few factors:
a) If you don´t plan on upgrading to 128 GB later and know that 64 GB will just fine - than 4 sticks may in some use-cases bring some more performance (lower single digit % - based on tests done by other reviewers), therefore it could be better from this point of view.
But 4 sticks are more demanding compatibility wise, so make sure these DIMMs are on MB manufacturer´s QVL (qualified vendor list) - or you know that somebody tested them and they work with this MB. Make sure you look at right memory list:
QVL for Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master is here - www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-11-12/support#support-doc
1) Matisse = AMD Ryzen 3000 CPU series
2) Vermeer = AMD Ryzen 5000 CPU series
As far as I know, the best memory modules that exist at this size are 16GB DIMMs with CL14 running at 3600 MHz, but they are very expensive. More budget friendly will be CL16 running at 3600 MHz. I personally wouldn´t go lower on MHz (price difference between 3200 and 3600 is not that significant). Higher speed memory modules (4000 MHz) also usually have higher CL timing - so the speed is achieved at the expense of timing (which is good for FPS in games - if that´s what you´re after).
b) If you plan on upgrading to 128 GB later - then 2x 32 GB will make more sense (you´ll just add another two same DIMMs later). There is a little catch here, larger DIMMs are usually available with slightly higher CL timings, which might slightly lower the performance unless you pick fast and more expensive ones - but they will likely not be able to achieve the same speed as the ones with lower (16 GB) capacity. The compatibility will be better (two memory sticks are easier to handle for memory controller than four). Checking QVL is always recommended anyway.
The best 32 GB DIMMs are available with CL16 timing. Common ones are CL18.
My personal experience: I´m now running 4x 16GB (3600MHz/CL16) DIMMs with standard XMP profile from the manufacturer on a different X570 motherboard. So far, I haven´t noticed any significant speed increase (but I haven´t done thorough testing - just a few initial AIDA benchmarks - will maybe do later). The speed achieved in benchmarks is also dependent on CPU boost clock, and with different versions of BIOSes you achieve different CPU boost clocks, so this factor has to be taken into consideration when doing potential testing. Definitely go for the newest possible version of BIOS available (takes 5 minutes to do). I noticed memory speed improvement after upgrading to the latest BIOS, although it was small (0,5% - 1%).
@@MartinsLabWow! I didnt expect such a detailed answer. Thank you. I’m sorry if I’m gonna ask you some more question.
I’m not sure if this particular mobo support the Ram that I wanted(already checked the QVL for this mobo) but the QVL of the Ram said it is compatible with this mobo.
The ram that I plan to use is the “G.skill trident z neo 64gb(16gbx4) 3600mhz CL16” and I’m gonna pair this mobo with a ryzen 9 5950x.
I’m not only going to play games for this setup but also doing some animations and video editing 😅
@@joabtim4352 If you keep people locked home long enough you´ll get long answers from them 😊
Not all memory modules which will run on this MB were tested by the manufacturer - especially now for Ryzen 5000 series because it is too new and testing takes a lot of time. So many memory modules will be added to it over time.
When you´re referring to RAM, it´s best to use S/N to identify them to make sure we are talking about the same modules.
I tested this MB with 2x 16 GB kit - S/N: F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC - G.SKILL 32GB KIT DDR4 3600MHz CL16 running at (16-19-19-39) using XMP, with F11 BIOS (at the time).
Link: www.gskill.com/product/165/326/1562840211/F4-3600C16D-32GTZNCTrident-Z-NeoDDR4-3600MHz-CL16-19-19-39-1.35V32GB-(2x16GB)
I was using Ryzen 9 3900X overclocked to 4.1 and 4.25 GHz all core - when I was doing the “Zalman CNPS20X vs Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 in TEST” video.
So, I know these memory modules work with it - everything was rock stable (I was testing for 5 days - Cinebench, Blender, AIDA, Resolve). How it´s going to work with Ryzen 5000 series I don´t know yet - my CPU hasn´t arrived yet ☹ Maybe someone else who has this MB knows?
The chosen CPU and RAM size suggests you´re not going to for gaming exclusively 😊 (Johnny Silverhand in the back just winked at me)
@@MartinsLab Oh, I’ll make sure to double check it if it’s compatible. Thanks 👌🏻
Btw, which one is preferable when updating bios for the ryzen 5000 series?
I am not familiar with using the q-flash bios or updating the bios externally without the cpu.
But, we can still update our bios traditionally by going to the mobo websites right?
Thanks again for your replies. Appreciate it
@@joabtim4352 If the RAM manufacturer says that it is compatible in their QVL, then I would believe them. I personally can´t just say I know it works because I haven´t tried it myself with the same configuration you plan on using it with (I don´t want to take the responsibility for the final result unless I´ve tested it).
I like watching the update process in the BIOS (therefore “Q-flash” is my preferred method - but it´s just how Gigabyte calls it, it´s not any official standard way of updating BIOS for all motherboards). If you only have a new motherboard (Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master) and new Ryzen 5000 CPU, you may not have any other choice than using “Q-Flash Plus” (without CPU) method. I explained everything in detail about both options in the top „pinned“ comment in this discussion.
I don´t know what you mean by „traditionally“? If you want the latest BIOS you have to download it for both methods from mobo´s website.
Hi Martin. Thanks for your video. Which of the M.2 slots should I use if I want to use two M.2 SSD drives? Which is the fastest slot and the fastest configuration for two SSDs?
Hi Owen, you´re welcome.
To your first question:
The fastest (or better to say unlimited by other devices) is the first M.2 slot (M2A_socket) which is closest to the CPU and is directly connected to it (The theoretical speed is the same on all of them, which is 4x PCI-E. Other are limited either by the chipset or other devices connected to it - because they are sharing the bandwidth to the CPU which is PCI-E 4X).
The other two (M2B_socket and M2C_socket) are theoretically capable of the same speed (PCI-E 4X) if they are not used at the same time in sense of not being read from or written to (they can be connected/installed at the same time) and when the last two SATA ports aren´t used (as shown in the video - you would disable them by using M2C_socket).
To your second question:
The fastest configuration of two M.2 SSDs is if you put them in the first two slots (sockets M2A and M2B). I used it for my RAID 1 config and was able to achieve READ speed little over 6 GB/s without any problems (with two 480 GB Corsair MP510 drivers used in video mentioned at the top). If you use PCI-E Gen4 drives you should be able to get close to the theoretical limit of two PCI-E 4X slots, which is around 15,7 GB/s (combined).
If you DON´T plan on using the last two SATA ports, you could also use combination of M2A and M2C sockets and you should be able to reach the same speed, but I haven´t tested it yet (will do it later). I Hope this helped ;)
Thanks a lot Martin!! I'm using a different operating system on each one and for that reason probably cannot use Raid cause every drive is formatted differently. Maybe a short addition: I would also like to add 1 or 2 SATA drives. Does it matter where I plug them in/which SATA slots I use? Thanks in advance! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@langermusic If you´re using two M.2 drives with 2 different operating systems you could you use RAID only on one of them (if you wanted to) by adding one more M.2 drive to the third M.2 slot (Sockets M2A and M2B would be the RAID with one OS and M2C_socket would be standalone with second OS on it).
Another option would be using two M.2 drives - sockets M2A and M2B would be the RAID with one OS and 2 SATA drives in RAID for the second OS (this one would be slower of course than RAID made of M.2 drives, but would potentially (if RAID1 was used) provide you with redundancy if you need it).
How I understand your situation is, that you want two M.2 drives running each with different OS as fast as possible and add 2 additional SATA drives and run them as fast as the MB allows you to.
In that case, put each OS on one of the M.2 drives (1st OS on drive in M2A_socket and 2nd OS on drive in M2B_socket) and use any two SATA ports (out of 6 available), the speed would be the same on all of them.
If you plan on using the 3rd M.2 slot in the future (M2C_socket), connect your two SATA drives into any two SATA connectors out of 4 available (the last two - 4 and 5 will be disabled when you connect the 3rd M.2 slot). Now, which four? In the manual they are shown as SATA ports 0,1,2 and 3 or for visual orientation the four which are closer to the 24pin power connector. I would connect them into first two SATA connectors - 0 and 1 (manual MB layout - page 7).
@@MartinsLab Thanks so much! That really helps! I like your idea about the RAID system on one OS. Will each of the RAID drives by itself work faster if I have them connected together as you said? So generally the OS would be even faster than only with one drive? Do I need to exact same m.2 drives? Cause one of them is 2TB and the other one is 1TH. How should I setup the BIOS? Big thanks! Owen
@@langermusic I see it got you excited about the RAID. That is a pretty complex set of questions 😊, let´s try to sort it out, one by one:
Part 1 - Is one vs Two drives for OS (RAID 1 and 0) faster?
You can have a RAID 1 for the OS on two M.2 drives but it wouldn´t make the OS run faster. Write operations would be about the same and read would be faster only in very few cases (when reading larger files). The only senseful option of using RAID on OS drive (on this MB) is RAID 1 for redundancy (for reliability - to make sure if one drive fails you can continue your work without any downtime). If you used RAID 0 for OS, you would significantly (by 50%) increase the possibility of failure of the OS which is generally not recommended for OS drives.
OS usually consists of thousands of very small files and using RAID wouldn´t speed up its operation (it is more effective with files of bigger size). If you test it when installed on 2 drives in RAID 1 or 0 with Crystal Disk Mark, it will show you impressive numbers - like I mentioned 6GB/s, BUT it is reached only with large files during continuous read operations which on OS drive occur VERY RARELY.
It can be beneficial for working with large files like a 4K/8K video (mp4/mov) or large RAW photos and such, but they wouldn´t probably be placed on and OS drive unless it was big enough drive and you put those files there purposefully - than RAID 1 would make sense even for perfromance reasons (not "just" reliability). The READING of those files could be up to 2x faster.
(In my build video I´m using it for the redundancy reasons)
Part 2 - How to get the fastest OS operation possible
If you want the fastest OS operation, basically you need the fastest (single) SSD or set of fastest M.2 SSDs (for RAID 1) you can get and have enough RAM (in dual channel) installed so that the OS doesn´t have to swap often. That means using M.2 SSDs like Gigabyte AORUS NVMe (Gen4), Corsair MP600, Samsung 970 Pro, Sabrent Rocker etc. and at least 16GB RAM for Windows 10. If you have really deep pockets, than Intel Optane 905P is the best option (because of how fast it can read small files).
Part 3 - Are the same SSDs necessary for RAID 0 and 1?
Yes, it is best to use the same SSDs - the same model, from the same manufacturer and of the same size (GB). This applies for both SATA and M.2 drives. It will help you to avoid situations where one SSD is “waiting” (measured in milliseconds) for the other to perform READ or WRITE operations because of its insufficient speed. One would be faster than the other and therefore not utilized to its full potential.
The BIOS RAID setup and OS installation is more complex issues to cover in a discussion, I will make a video about it.
Almost looks like I should have been a journalist..
Hi Martin,
Enjoyed your video on the motherboard. Waiting for mine to arrive. Planning on using it with Ryzen 9 3900x for video editing for online teaching. This will be my first pc set up after 30years. So i am hoping your set up video will really help me out. Once again thank you this very informative video.
Hi Mr Tmun, I´am glad you liked it, 3900X is a very good choice for video editing. Wow, 30 years is a long time. What have you been running all that time? The build video is detailed so you should find there all necessary info for the assembly. However, if you find yourself stuck somewhere, you can leave a comment and I might be able to give you a hint. Good luck with your build!
I've been using macbook and macbook pro. But I realise with these new Ryzen chipset, price to product does not match for Mac. So I decided just give this setting up a try and hopefully your detailed setup video will help me. Thank you once again for creating all these videos.
By the way Martin, which do you recommend, the Firecuda 1Tb or the Sabrent 1Tb? Or it does not matter? As for GPU RTX or GTX?
True, Macs are overpriced compared to new Ryzen 3000 based PCs, especially the Pro version (which still uses 14nm CPUs and costs a fortune). Now I understand the motivation.
Both of the drives you mentioned use the same Phison PS5016-E16 controller so the speed will probably be very similar (I am assuming you want to go for Gen4 SSDs: Sabrent 1TB Rocket or Seagate FireCuda 520) and both have 1800TB durability. The warranty after registration is 5years for both, but Sabrent is almost 50 USD cheaper so I would probably go for Sabrent. But both are fine.
When it comes to GPU, that is absolutely clear, you need to go for RTX because of future support in nVIDIA studio drivers (those are best for video editing - which is what you plan on doing). Also, if you plan on editing videos in 4K, you must get one with at least 8GB video memory (2060s/2070s/2080s/2080Ti) otherwise the scrubbing on a timeline will be a nightmare (especially after aplying any filters or color corrections).
Wow. Amazing. Thank u Martin for the advices. Really appreciate it mate. Keep up your good work in your videos. I am definately supporting you.
I cannot put my side panel on, because I have to keep pressing the power button on the motherboard; to power on my PC.
Good review! Just ordered this board today for my 3700x build.
Thanks! I think you will be happy with it, just get the latest BIOS.
Same, and same CPU! The board literally came back in stock today on Newegg for retail. I caught it before PCPartPicker even updated it's "out of stock" status 😄
@@moehasan7534 Awesome! They were out of stock for like a month I noticed. Gamers Nexus did a vid on how supply should be getting back to normal in June so that's a good sign!
@@jeffreypaul9428 ikr? Though ofcourse now I see threads about that board's 24pin connector bricking or something
Thanks for content...Very Helpful... It will be great if you make video like this on MSI MEG x570 ACE
Hi Vivek, you´re welcome! I would look into MSI MEG x570 ACE if I could, but I don´t have this MB so it´s probably not going to happen any time soon. However, next MB in line for exploration will be ASRock X570 CREATOR, probably in 3 weeks.
Hey Martin great video! You’ve a new subscriber! Question, a clarification question rather... by using the M.2A slot and the top PCIe x16 slot simultaneously, there workmen’s be any bandwidth loss correct? As they have they’re own lanes(16, and 4).
Also, I wouldn’t be giving up bandwidth in some other header (or lane) by occupying multiple usb headers would I? Thanks again for the great content...and resource!
Hi DataLLap! You understand it correctly - M2_A slot has its own 4x PCIE 4.0 lane leading directly to the CPU and nothing (no other cards or disks) will interfere with its performance. If you put any M.2 SSD in it (3rd Gen/4th Gen) it will not limit speed of any other slots (PCIE/SATA/M.2) on the MB.
(Just one thing to remember is that if you put 3rd Gen M.2 SSD in it, the M2_A slot will switch automatically into Gen3 mode - for compatibility reasons, therefore the maximum possible bandwidth of the slot would naturally be only 3,9 GB/s instead of 7,8 GB/s which is possible only in Gen4 mode)
If you put your GPU into the top PCIE x16 slot and an M.2 SSD into M2_A slot they will both run at their full speeds and wouldn´t limit each other´s bandwidth in any way.
To the second question:
Simple answer is “No” - for 99% of use-cases.
To understand it fully, here is a more complicated answer 😊 :
The USB headers are connected to the chipset and therefore they share the bandwidth to the CPU (x4 PCIE 4.0 lane - 7,8 GB/s ) with the following slots:
1) the last (3rd) PCIE x16 slot which can run maximum at x4 speed (7,8 GB/s)
2) all SATA ports, they are slow (each can take 550 MB/s at max)
3) and both M2_B and M2_C sockets (if you use M2_C socket - it will disable the last two SATA ports and leave you only with 4 SATA port available) - each can run max at x4 speed (7,8 GB/s)
BUT, and this is an important part - you are limiting the maximum achievable speed of any device connected to the chipset (by PCIE/SATA/M.2/USB) ONLY IF it is being used AT THE SAME TIME and ONLY IF the bandwidth from the chipset to the CPU is fully utilized (7,8 GBs). Which could happen only under very specific and not very often occurring circumstances.
(If I make some up - You´d have to have other two M.2 slots (M2_B and M2_C) occupied with two high-end Gen4 M.2 SSDs and they would have to be reading/writing at their full speed 5-7 GB/s simultaneously which is something you´d really have to engineer to do. Than the speed of your USBs and SATA drives would be limited, or the other way around - they would be limiting the speed of the M.2 SSDs if they were reading/writing at their full speed at the same time).
Just by occupying multiple USB headers (connecting devices to them), you´re not taking the bandwidth from the chipset to the CPU. To do that, you´d have to be using the devices connected to them (the USB headers) simultaneously at a significant speed for a sustained period of time. So don’t worry if you´re planning on connecting your mouse, keyboard, webcam, mic, headphones and an external USB drive to your MB simultaneously using its USB headers. You´ll still have plenty of headroom before you start taxing your x4 PCIE 4.0 (7,8 GB/s) lane to the CPU by any significant way.
The fastest thing you can connect to this MB by USB (v3.1 Gen2) is a 10Gbps external drive which can take at max only 1,25 GB/s from that bandwidth when being used. I am testing two of them right now 😉
Hope this clarifies how things are. Thanks for the sub!
One more clarification, there might a confusion bethween 1) „USB headers“ and 2) „USB ports“.
What is below applies to the version 1.0 of this MB, and can be found on page 11 of the manaul for other versions of the MB - v1.1 and v1.2.
1) USB Headers - are on the motherboard accessible only from the inside of the case
2) USB Ports - can be accessed from the back of the case - they are placed on the back panel of the motherboard
These are connected to the CPU directly:
2x USB ports (red ones) 2x USB 3.1 Gen 2, Type A - on the back panel
2x USB ports 3.1 Gen1 (blue ones), Type A - on the back panel
These are connected to the Chipset:
1x USB Type-C port (USB 3.1 Gen2) - available through the internal USB header on the MB (connects with front USB-C port on top your case (if it has it) internally using a cable - the „supercharger port“)
1x USB Type-C port (USB 3.1 Gen2) - on the back panel
1x USB USB (red one) 3.1 Gen 2, Type A - on the back panel
4x USB ports available through two internal USB headers
These are connected to the chipset + USBB 2.0 Hub:
8x USB 2.0 ports (all together) = 4 ports are placed on the back panel + 4 ports available through 2 internal USB headers (connects with front USB ports on top your case (if it has it) internally using a cable
Now it should be clear what is connected to what :)
I'm curious, do you need to plug both 12v connectors in or is one plenty?
Interesting question, logic says „no“ (8pin can easily pull 400W if you have a capable PSU), manual doesn´t say anything (doesn´t address this specifically - talks about it in singular) other than: „The 12V power connector mainly supplies power to the CPU. If the 12V power connector is not connected, the computer will not start.To meet expansion requirements, it is recommended that a power supply that can withstand high power consumption be used (500W or greater). If a power supply is used that does not provide the required power, the result can lead to an unstable or unbootable system”.
I can try if it boots up, but I don´t feel like running the complete set of stability tests to find out if it´s stable. If I can boot with it, I´ll try few minutes of Cinebench R20 and see how it behaves, I´ll let you know.
I tested it few minutes ago with only one 8pin 12V power cable connected to the MB and it worked without any problems. So, now we know 😉
For the quick test, I used:
Cinebench R20 (600s = 10min) - load from the plug was 201-203W (205W peak).
Then I ran Intel Burn Test 2.54 (10x Very High), load from the plug was 200W most of the time.
Then I tried AIDA Extreme F64 Ray-trace test (stability sensitive) and no issues (192W) - takes few seconds.
Test system: AMD Ryzen 3900X, 2x 16GB ECC RAM 2666MHz (Crucial), GeForce GTX 1050Ti KalmX (Palit), Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 with 2 fans at stock settings, 1x Samsung 850 Pro SSD for OS, PSU - Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium (650W), optimized defaults loaded in F11 BIOS, OS Windows 10 Pro.
Most of this HW will be used in my Home server build, so this was a little warmup test for it, the video is now in post-production and will be released in the next two days. When I get to the full testing phase of the server I may test it further, but I don´t expect different results even after longer loads.
@M3sterX Yes, it is best to use both 8 pins for powering the CPU. You will not recognize any difference compared to running it only with one if you´re not overclocking heavily. The motherboard will be able to draw more power, which can be beneficial only during extreme overclocking. You will probably (assumption - not a proven fact) be able to load each of the rails on the PSU less, which might theoretically improve stability of the system. I personally connected both - as seen in the build video mentioned at the top.
fabulous video
Thanks!
Thank you for an excellent video. I am looking to build a new PC for video and photo editing and after researching the internet the Gigabyte X570 came highly recommended. My idea was to combine it with the Ryzen 7 3700X. My requirement is for home use not business. One thing that puzzles me is the lack of GPU forcing the need to purchase an extenal GPU card. Seeing the prices of graphics cards, I'm wondering if there is not a better choice of motherboard that would give me Display and HDMI outputs. Could you comment and may be you would recommend an alternative motherboard / CPU ?
I´m glad you found it useful ;)
There is a new line of motherboards coming very soon (in about a month) with X570S chipset. I´d check X570S AORUS PRO AX (will be cheaper than the Master). These motherboards also have passively cooled chipset heat sinks plus new USB 3.2 Gen2 X2 ports (20 Gbit).
Links for alternative motherboards:
X570S AORUS PRO AX - www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570S-AORUS-PRO-AX-rev-10#kf
X570S AORUS ELITE (no WIFI) - www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570S-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10#kf
Ideal home video editing setup:
• Ryzen 5800X (or higher) - has better IPC + clock speeds compared to Ryzen 3700X
(I did some research - new APUs like Ryzen 5600G/5700G/5750G disable PCI-E 4.0 support and can´t be therefore recommended = main reason for my edit)
• X570S AORUS PRO AX or X570S AORUS ELITE (= cheaper alternative to save the most on the MB)
• 32 GB RAM (2x16 GB for dual channel) - 3600 MHz - CL16 (which is on QVL - compatible with MB of your choice)
• nVIDIA GeForce RTX GPU + nVIDIA Studio drivers (8 GB video memory minimum, more = better) - get the best you can afford, has the biggest impact on video editing
• SSD (dedicated for video files/photos) - ideally NVMe with high endurance (TBW) - like Gigabyte Aorus NVMe Gen4 / Samsung 870 EVO (SATA) = cheaper alternative
Please Martin... I am buying parts for my Pc and this is the motherboard I bought... I loved this video and i was looking for video like that.... I have introduced a question into the wrong video...but this is the review video... So I am a bit confuse about what I will buy for cooling system... I have this motherboard :
- GIGABYTE X570 S AORUS Master) ,
- Ryzen 9 5950x)
-Case (Fractal Design Torrent Gray E-ATX Tempered Glass Window High-Airflow Mid Tower)...
I have two options, but I am bit confused...
The options are:
*IceGiant ProSiphon Elite CPU Cooler for Intel AMD Desktop Processors Compatible with Intel LGA 115x, 1366, 1200, 2011/2066, AMD Ryzen AM4, sTRX4, TR4;
*Fractal Design Celsius+ S36 Prisma PWM ARGB 360mm Silent Performance Slim Radiator AIO CPU Liquid/Water Cooler, Model: FD-W-2-S3602;
Which one would advise me to buy? ...please
Hi Marcio, if you already bought Fractal Design Torrent case, then it´s an easy decision - you can´t use IceGiant ProSiphon Elite CPU cooler, because its radiator has to be pointed upwards towards the ceiling of the case and this particular case doesn´t have space for ventilation (space with holes for a radiator) on top. The hot air from the exhaust of ProSiphone Elite cooler would bounce back into the case instead of leaving it (the cooling would be inefficient).
So, out of those two CPU coolers you can use only Fractal Design Celsius+ S36 Prisma PWM ARGB 360mm Silent Performance Slim Radiator AIO.
Link for an example of installation*: www.techpowerup.com/review/fractal-design-torrent-rgb-tg/6.html
(*But you should change the orientation of the water pipes so that the pump of the cooler which is placed on top of the CPU is above the intake of water of the radiator of the cooler "which should be at the bottom of the case" - to make sure its longer lifespan.)
@@MartinsLab Thnk you very much my Professor.... thnk you
How many it support of ram in dual channel and normally?
Thanks and good video :)
Glad you liked the video 😉
Generally, you can use 3 types of RAM configurations with this motherboard with these max. memory settings:
1) A single DIMM in single channel - the biggest RAM module supported by this MB is 32 GB DDR4 DIMM, so 1x 32 GB DDR4 DIMM = 32 GB RAM
2) Two biggest DIMMs in a dual channel setup - 2x 32 GB DDR4 = 64 GB RAM
3) Four biggest DIMMs in dual channel setup - 4x 32 GB GB DDR4 = 128 GB RAM
I don´t know what you mean by „normally“, but I would never put any memory into this motherboard in anything else but dual channel memory setup, because in a single channel setup I would be limiting the memory throughput of my system by 50% which would result in brutal loss of performance. The only setup that makes sense for this MB in terms of performance a is dual channel memory setup.
If you want to be sure of the compatibility of RAM modules which you chose for this motherboard, I recommend checking the manufacturers QVL (qualified vendor list) - here is a link:
www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10/support#support-doc
(For Ryzen 3000 processors - you want to look at the one that says “ For AMD Mattise CPU” in the description)
Muchas gracias.
You´re welcome!
Aorus x570 master is good for purchase with ryzen 5950x. Is hard work for long time without CPU power phase damage or bios problems? Recommend this motherboard or no.
Hi Akram, it is definitely a good motherboard in combination with any Ryzen 3000/5000 CPU including 5950X. I didn´t encounter any problems during my extensive testing with Ryzen 3900X even while it was overclocked. (It is necessary to update it to the latest version of BIOS of course)
Because it has been more than a year since this motherboard has been released, there is a new version of it already available “Gigabyte X570S Aorus Master”, which has a passively cooled chipset heatsink, 14+2 Phase VRM and USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 TYPE-C ports, so it is worth checking out as well.
Can we use the Usb 3.1 type c port for a display output? By using a usb type c cable can we run a monitor on this motherboard? Someone please help me out with this.
I checked the manual and it doesn´t say anything about this option, so the answer is very likely "No". USB 3.1 Gen2 (10Gbit) port on the rear IO of the motherboard acts mainly as data port and front USB-C header is for both data and fast charging of connected devices to the case, acts as "USB TurboCharger" (max 18W).
@@MartinsLab Thank you sooooo much. So I'm forced to buy a GPU, which is nearly impossible in these times. And I couldn't find any other motherboard as good as this one.
@@bingobango3509 No problem, you´re not alone - many people are solving the same thing these days. One of the possible solutions would be buying some passively cooled GPU like ASUS GeForce GT1030-SL-2G-BRK for example - for now, which would allow you to use your PC for basic stuff and later - when prices of GPUs drop to MSRP buy something more powerful. I recommended my friends to do the same thing. Prices of GPUs are insane now.
@@MartinsLab Yes, that's what I had in mind as well 😁. Thank you for your help.
well made video this board l have rans well
Glad you liked it :) Sofar, I had no issues as well.
@@MartinsLab still picking up tips off your video watch it 3-4 times +sw and sb power button you the only show how it works
@@MrBook123456 Great! This MB has a lot of useful features - it´s definitely worth exploring.
@@MartinsLab my Corsair MP600 Force Series was wipe the board could pick it up but not the windows on it so l had to put windows back it ,have you this happen to you ???? it now works ok new build only 4 weeks old
@@MrBook123456 Hi Darren, I´m not sure I understand your question. Your SSD MP600 was wiped (all data on it were deleted) without you taking any action? Your motherboard could see it in the BIOS, but your OS - Windows 10 which was previously on it, was deleted. So, you reinstalled the Windows and it works now. Is that the situation?
Hi Martin, do you have a guide on how to flash the bios on this Motherboard using QFLASH and no CPU
Hi Nelson, I don´t, but Gigabyte does. Here is a link - download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_x570-aorus-master_1002_e.pdf - it´s on page 73.
I would like to run a nvme in the M2A slot for a boot drive, Run my GPU in the first pcie 16 slot, and another NVME storage drive on M2B slot. Both storage drives are pcie3 not 4 and would not be in raid mode. Would they run at normal writing speeds since they are pcie3 and the GPU uses the full 16 lanes? I will also be using a Ryzen 9 3900X CPU. According to your graph (If I understand it correctly), the M2B will be on 4x and I should be able to get almost max speed of my drive at 4gbs. I am pretty new to this. I just completed my first build 4 months ago and I am having issues with my current board and I would like to upgrade to the x570 Aorus master. Thank you for the video and any help you can provide.
Hi Steve, no problem. The answer is „Yes“ (you understand correctly) both NVMe SSDs in slots M2A and M2B will be able to write at their full speed.
First slot „M2A“ is connected directly to the CPU by x4 PCIE 4.0 lane which has a potential bandwidth of 7,8 GB/s when used with Gen4 drives. You have Gen3 drive which means that you will be able to achieve 3,9 GB/s as a theoretical maximum (real speed will of course depend on the drive you use).
Second slot „M2B“ is connected to the chipset by x4 PCIE4 PCIE 4.0 lane (7,8 GB/s) and from chipset to the CPU also by x4 PCIE 4.0 lane (7,8 GB/s). If you don´t connect any other devices to the chipset (like addon PCIE cards or SATA drives) the bandwidth to the CPU wouldn´t be shared with other devices and therefore it´s full speed (7,8GB/s) will be available to your second SSD. But because this SSD is also Gen3 its theoretical maximum speed will be limited to 3,9 GB/s as in case of your first drive. Which means your chipset will still have nice 3,9 GB/s bandwidth available without even limiting your drive. (I´ve tested scenarios when both drives read and write simultaneously - in the next few days I´ll release a RAID focused video on this MB)
In the future don´t hesitate to connect SATA SSDs or other devices (thru chipset), they wouldn´t limit your NVMe SSD´s write speed unless they are used at the same time when your drive is writing/reading and their need for bandwidth is large enough to use all the rest of the available capacity of the PCI-E 4.0 x4 lane to the CPU. That scenario is not very probable.
I think you´ll be happy with the CPU you´ve chosen, it´s a beast 😉 If you´re unsure about something drop a comment and I´ll give you a hint if I know the answer.
Martin's Lab I can not thank you enough for your response and clarifying this for me. I look forward to this Motherboard and future videos. You do fantastic work!
That ESS screen looks like it has another plastic cover. Does it?
Yes, also not really a screen, just an RGB backlit plastic cover.
I just ordered this motherboard and am very happy to watch you video martin you explain all the connections on board this is going to be my first build and still debating on Ryzen 7 3800x or 9 3900x??
Hi Jose, I think you´ll be happy with the MB. You haven´t mentioned what you are planning on doing with your PC (what programs you´ll be using) so it is difficult to give you advice. Generally, if you can afford Ryzen 9 3900X I would go for it, because its more future proof and current price (450 USD) is very reasonable for its performance.
On the other hand if, you wouldn´t be able to make use of those 4 extra cores (for example if you´re planning on gaming only), than it would be wiser to go for 3800X and put the saved money somewhere else (better GPU, bigger/faster SSD..).
Prices of CPUs go down gradually all the time, so later on (year later) if you find out you need more CPU performance you can upgrade easily for lower price than what you would pay today for the same CPU (the resale value of your current CPU will be of course lower as well).
@@MartinsLab hi Martin mainly will be using only for gaming want to be gaming in 4k resolution.
@@joseevelasco4596 In that case having 12 cores would be unnecessary, if you bought 3800X (340 USD) you would loose only 100 MHz in single core boost, but save 110 USD which could be used to buy better GPU (2070S/2080S/2080Ti) - which has the highest impact on FPS in 4K gaming out of all PC components. And if necessary (year later), you can buy higher clocked Ryzen 4000 series CPU which will still be compatible with your X570 motherboard. Also make sure to get 3600 MHz memory for dual channel setup, to use the full potential of the CPU.
Martin's Lab I really appreciate your advice I will definitely put more towards GPU, and rams memory to 3600 MHz. I was wondering I will be doing m.2 ssd and seen about fan noise, and to update bios. will you be doing video on how it’s done and as well for loading operating system threw USB??
Actually I will ;) I am already more than half-way through another video (will be released probably Sunday/Monday) where I am discussing the components and assembling the whole computer (home server) using this motherboard. It includes installation of M.2 SSDs and updating the BIOS (that is where this video ends).
Installation of OS from USB + RAID configuration will be in the next video following this one. I am already attacking 30 minutes and people usually don´t want to watch too long videos, so I´ll need to split it into more parts.
Hello Martin i have a question, i have 2 gen 4 nvme and 1 gen 3 nvme fitted to my aorus master problem is the sata ssds are not detected, although if i unplug and plug the power back in to the ssd when the pc is running they are detected and work fine but soon as pc reatarted they are not detected again? not using port 4 or 5
Hi Kaiser, this is difficult to say, never happened to me. Are you running any RAID config? This would mean that something is preventing those SATA drives from being detected at bootup. Which would probably be a BIOS thing. Are they detected in BIOS before you bootup into Windows? How many SATA drives are you running? (SATA ports 4 and 5 are disabled when 3rd M.2 slot is occupied - so this is not it) If you don´t have any RAID setup, I would probably try new BIOS or resetting the current one. (You can save them to flash drive when using the same version of BIOS). Also I´m assuming no CPU OC se set when testing this.
Martin thank you for your reply and excellent Tutorials....No Raid config,No OC has been done,The ssds do not appear in the Bios at boot, 3 sata ssds fitted to port 0,1,2 (i have switched around just in case) i will flash the Bios to latest although it was Qflashed to latest when built (2 weeks ago) there is a newer bios now. When building i did not realise the bios needed to be flashed for Ryzen 5 cpus and found Qflash would not work with pc built but eventually found if i removed all the ram it would flash ok or maybe it didn't?, do you think the ram could cause a problem? 64Gb 3600mhz.I will try removing half the ram. Except for the 3 ssds the computer runs flawlessly. I have contacted Gigabyte but no reply as yet. Thank you again for your help
@@kaisersoze8008 You´re welcome ;) based on what you´re saying it looks like a BIOS issue. There is a difference between Q-Flash (in BIOS update - watching in on the monitor) and Q-Flash Plus (CPU-less BIOS update - monitor and other components are not installed/connected). So, you probably did Q-Flash Plus, but had some components installed..which might have caused some issues. CPUless BIOS update should be done without any components installed on/connected the motherboard. There should be only 24pin main ATX power connector and one CPU 8 pin power connector connected to the motherboard while you´re doing it.
Not many people know about it because it´s mentioned in a separate manual called "Unique features introduction" on page 6.
Here is a direct link: download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_x570-features.pdf
Here is a all manuals link: www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10/support#support-manual
I discovered it when I was doing my last video on "Gigabyte Aorus Elite", so I added the whole BIOS Q-flash plus update process in it. (The difference compared to "Aorus Master" is that Master has the "Flash button" on rear IO shield and "Aorus Elite" has it placed in the bottom part of the MB close to it´s edge. Master has also two BIOSes, and requires to have BIOS switch and a SB switch in default positions. Elite doesn´t have those at all.)
I have no idea how the Q-flash Plus BIOS update behaves when there are some components connected (I did it always according to the manual), but there is probably a reason why they shouldn´t be. In this case, if I were you, I would do a fresh Q-Flash Plus BIOS update as it´s in the manual. Than you can be sure that the problem is not caused by improper BIOS update and troubleshooting would have a solid base.
Thanks.
You're welcome
Hello! Do you know why this motherboard takes forever to boot after it’s been turned off for let’s say like 10 or 12 hours? I just built my pc with this mobo and everything runs fine but the first boot of everyday is super slow it takes like 3-4 minutes to post (show the aorus logo on screen) and I don’t know how to solve it. I tried changing the RAM positions since the DRAM red led lights up during boot and nothing. I cleared the CMOS and also nothing. Loaded optimized defaults on BIOS and nothing. I also updated to the latest BIOS version and nothing. I turned on the fast boot feature and guess what 😂? Nothing :(
I don’t know what else to do so I may end up just returning it and buying another one.
This is a list of all my components:
-mobo: Aorus x570 Master(rev 1.2)
-cpu: Ryzen 3200G (still trying to get a Ryzen 5950X)
-gpu: nvidia GT710 (still trying to get a 3080 😂)
-RAM: g.skill trident z neo 64GB 3600Mhz CL16 (16x4)
-Storage: Samsung 980Pro PCIe gen 4 (windows 10 is here)
-Storage:Samsung 970evo plus 2tb
-PSU: Corsair HX1200W
-NZXT Kraken Z73 mm
I don’t know if you’ll get to read this but if you have ever seen this problem happened to someone else I would really appreciate to know how you solved it 🙏🏻
Hi Omar, it looks like you´ve done all the right thigs to solve the problem. I had similar thing happen to me on another system and my guess is that it might have something to do with a Windows update - not all updates improve the stability of the system. I also found out that it may take longer to boot if you have certain USB devices connected to the motherboard at boot up.
RED light on the MB during bootup is normal, it is lit until RAM is tested and then it should turn off.
If there were something wrong with the RAM, there is good chance it would show up on the POST CODE LED display. Try checking what number it shows when not booting as fast as expected.
I would first try disconnecting some USB devices before bootup (if connected) and watching if it has any impact on boot up speed or not.
By the way I´m waiting for the same CPU as well. A guy who knows someone in the distribution told me these are the least common ones - they arrive in in smallest numbers and least frequently. Which is not surprising, because in a large scale these will not be the mainstream, so they aren´t making that many of them compared to other models.
@@MartinsLab thank you so much for replying! I will try doing a fresh install and see if that helps I don’t really have a lot of stuff in there yet and I will also try disconnecting my devices to check. It just doesn’t seem right for this new pc to take more than 2 minutes to boot up 😂
Quick question people ! I bought this mobo do I need to have 2 8 pins going to the cpu ? It’s my first time having a mobo like this. (The two cpu power connectors )
Yes, you do. It can run with one (tested it), but it´s better if you use two CPU 8 pins.
I have a 3060ti which is pci 4.0. If I put a pcie 3.0 m2 drive in slot b or c will it drop my gpu down to 3.0?
No, it wouldn´t. I assume you have your RTX 3060Ti in the first x16 PCIE 4.0 slot. That slot is directly connected to the CPU by 16 PCIE 4.0 lanes and is unaffected by any drive you place into any of the three M.2 sockets.
If you place a Gen3 (PCIE 3.0) M.2 SSDs into slot „M2_B“ or „M2_C“ which are connected to the X570 chipset by four PCIE 4.0 lanes each, the only thing that happens is that the connection to that slot switches to PCIE 3.0 mode, but it doesn´t affect the other PCIE slots or M.2 sockets.
The only exception is slot M2_C, because if you place any M.2 drive (doesn´t matter if it´s PCIE 3.0 or PCIE 4.0) in it, it will disable 2 SATA ports (namely „4“ and „5“ - naming of SATA ports starts with „0“)
How loud the chipset fan? Is it loud enough to disturb you while using the computer?
It is only loud if you use the old BIOS (F4). You need to flash the BIOS to the latest version (F11) and set it to the silent fan profile - then it is quiet and doesn´t disturb you at all.
@@MartinsLab cool, was thinking of buying Aorus Extreme for my next Ryzen 4000 build since I don't want a high potential point of failure in motherboard, and also the noise but if the noise is quite fine I'm more willing to use Aorus Elite/Master/Ultra mb. Again, thanks for the reply it helps me.
Do you know if I would be able to connect a monitor by using a usb type c to hdmi adapter? I don’t have any GPU at hand but a friend is about to give me a Ryzen 3200G and I wonder if the adapter would work cus there is no hdmi or dp ports in the mobo :(
Hi Omar, I think it´s not possible to route graphics signal to USB-C output on this motherboard, because it wasn´t designed for it (it has no original graphics ports). Gigabyte probably didn´t think anybody would pair it with a CPU using an integrated GPU. In your case (I assume you´re waiting for Ryzen 5000 CPU and Radeon 6000/nVIDIA 3000 GPU). I would buy the cheapest possible passively cooled secondhand GPU with HDMI output which can feed your monitor by sufficiet resolution to allow you to have something to use in the meantime instead. You should have no trouble finding one on Ebay or similar site. Active adapter would probably be more expensive, so it wouln´t make sense to buy it for such short period of time - it would be more expensive.
@@MartinsLab Thank you so much for replying and yes, I am waiting for a Ryzen 5000 and RTX 3080 to be restocked and I am getting a Ryzen 3200g and a GT710 that I got for $20 😂 just until I get the cpu and GPU I want.
@@omarcatter7606 No problem, GT710 is going to be just fine and for the price it´s a bargain. On top, it´s something you can use later for potential troubleshooting or just to get by in similar situation. With the build, you´re you´re putting together you´ll be Cyberpunk ready ;)
I see you have a Rev 1.0 board. when did you pick this up?
Couple a months ago, finally got time to play with it ;) Came with F4 BIOS. Why?
@@MartinsLab Thank you, the 1.0 rev does not have thunderbolt and I'm trying to see if rev 1.1 (with the thunderbolt connector above the sata) is a thing. I'll be ordering mine today from Newegg and crossing my fingers. It's her first custom device, shes a content creator running on a phenom 2.
I am not sure if any other revision has it, Gigabytes website doesn´t mention thunderbolt at all (I am aware of the empty space close to SATA you mentioned). If you´re looking for board with thunderbolt, the only one I know with X570 chipset which has it is ASRock X570 Creator. I will be reviewing it in couple of weeks, also a very good board and has 10Gig LAN on top. VRMs are not at the level of this one, but other than that I would definitely consider it, specially for a content creator. If you get the Master, flash it with F11 BIOS ASAP, the chipset fan noise is anoying and this BIOS revision fixes it - allows you to customize it.
I can't afford the creator, sadly. But the gigabyte thunderbolt PCI lists this board, and see here. www.gigabyte.com/ca/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-1x#kf
You´re right, I see it, completely overlooked it. This info could be also useful for others, it says ”1 x Thunderbolt™ add-in card connector (Only rev1.1 available)“. Maybe you could ask them to have a look and confirm that what you´re ordering is rev1.1 and if not get it somewhere else. It´s worth trying.
Are there any limitations when putting gen 4 drives in all m.2 slots?
Yes there are (depends on the max speeds of used M.2 drives), the first M.2 slot (M2A) is connected by 4 PCI-E 4.0 lanes to the CPU directly, therefore the maximum available bandwidth is 7,877 GB/s.
Second (M2B) and third (M2C) M.2 slots are both connected by 4 PCI-E 4.0 lanes - first to the chipset (X570), and from there by 4 PCI-E 4.0 lanes to the CPU. This means that they are sharing the bandwidth (7,877 GB/s) not only with each other but also with SATA ports and the third PCI-E slot (PCIE 4.0 4x).
This limitation applies for all X570 motherboards. X570 has a total of 24 PCI-E 4.0 lanes - 16 for GPU (can be devided into 2x 8 if the first two PCIE slots are occupied), 4 for an SSDs (M2A in this case) and 4 for the chipset (X570).
So, if you put three Gen 4 M.2 drives in all three M.2 slots, two of them will be limited (theoretically - depends on the use-case) by shared bandwidth to the CPU. But, and this is important - this limitation will have any real-life effect only in situations where both M.2 drives (in M2B and M2C slots) read or write at the same time and at their maximum speed (for example - 2x 5 GB/s (Corsair MP600) = 10 GB/s and the limit is 7,877 GB/s) or if you added any high-speed cards PCIE card (2nd or 3rd GPU) into your 3rd PC-E slot and are using it simultaneously when reading/writing to both M.2 drives.
This is possible, but only very rarely, because to put it into effect, you´d have be moving large amounts of data for longer periods of time, which doesn´t usually happen when loading games, office applications, coding, even when editing 4K video (the actual amount of transferred data from M.2 drives is surprisingly low compared to what is available).
But, if this limits your use case in any way, you can switch to Threadripper or Epyc which have more lanes available leading from their chipsets to the CPU.
@@MartinsLab thank you for giving a clear understandable answer. Much appreciated. I really enjoy your content and I know I'm not the only one. Keep it up
@@jeremiahk364 You´re welcome, thanks!
Great, I have the same board, can i install a Thunderbolt Card in one of the PCIE Cards?
Sure, if you have version 1.1 or 1.2 of this motherboard. Reviewed MB is rev1.0 and doesn´t have this feature. It is evident that the manufacturer planned this upgrade since the beginning of the production (there is a free space for it on the PCB), but didn´t implement it into the first version of the MB (reasons unknown). Here is a link: www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GC-TITAN-RIDGE-rev-20#kf If you have rev1.0 you´d have to use a standalone card from other manufacturer - which would be also possible, but you couldn´t use onboard connecter, because it isn´t there.
@@MartinsLab thank you much for taking ur time and answering my question, I appreciate it👍
I was wondering, if you are planning to make a HAKINTOSH video on this same system, I would love to watch and learn 😊
@@tameempaknehad1663Unfortunately, I´m not planning on doing a hackingtosh video - I have very limited experience with Apple products and I´m generally not planning on using them in the future - the ecosystem is just not „my cup of tea“ 😉
What is best power supply for purchase is not burn motherboard or other components. Please write brand and model is 750w or 850w or 1000w
There are several good options when picking a PSU, the wattage depends mostly on which GPU you are going to be using, some OC versions of GPUs can draw up to 500W alone in peak. I don´t know which one you want to use?
Based on your first post, you are probably building a high-end build - so if you want the best, then I would go for:
a) Seasonic Prime TX-850 (850W) - when using Radeon 6800 XT / GeForce RTX 3080
b) Seasonic Prime TX-1000 (1000W) - when using Radeon 6900XT / GeForce 3080Ti and 3090
Or
a) EVGA SuperNOVA 850 T2 (850W)
b) EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 T2 (1000W)
Or
a) CORSAIR HX Series HX850 (850W)
b) CORSAIR HX Series HX1000 (1000W)
If you´re going for lower tier GPUs like RTX 3060Ti/3070 or Radeon 6700XT/6800 go for 750W versions of the PSUs listed above.
@@MartinsLab thank you very much
Hello! Ty for the video, had a question bout this mb as I just got done rebuilding my pc with it and can't find any answers anywhere. It works perfectly but the only problem is the rgb lights on the mb won't light up. I tried rgb fusion 2.0 and it isn't making em light up nor change. Ty in advance if u can help
Hi Sadao! There are several possibilities why it´s not working - you haven´t provided any info about the steps you took to make it work or about your system (what drivers you installed etc) - so its difficult to start anywhere.
However, I still have a fresh install of Windows 10 Pro (v2004) 64bit installed on my PC - using X570 AORUS MASTER (rev. 1.0) - from my last RAID oriented video on it.
I installed and tried if RGB Fusin 2.0 works with MB LEDs and it does. So, to make it useful for you, here are my settings and steps I took to make it work:
1) BIOS F11 version - is installed on my MB and everything is in default (optimized defaults loaded) (I´m aware there are newer versions available now - it should work with them as well)
2) the latest MB chipset driver is installed - AMD Chipset Drivers [2.07.21.306]
www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10/support#support-dl-driver-chipset
3) RGB Fusion - B20.0721.1 installed
www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10/support#support-dl-utility
4) I ran the "RGB Fusion" SW in Windows, selected by mouse cursor the LEDs I wanted to be lit on the picture of the MB on the left side of the RGB Fusion app. Then I selected any of the pictures showing what effect (static, pulse, flash etc..) I want the RGBs to do on the right. Then I clicked "Apply" and it worked immediately! Make sure you don´t have the effect selected on “OFF”- just to be sure 😉
Hope this helps.
@@MartinsLab Thank you so much for the response and time u put into it. Very much appreciated, I reinstalled rgb fusion and it's working great now. Ty again!
@@Terimanreminaski No problem, interesting the reinstall was "the magic" - may help others, thanks for sharing.
Is thunderbolt header on this for titan ridge add in card ?
Hi, the version of the motherboard in the video you saw is rev1.0 - this revision doesn´t have thunderbolt port for GC-TITAN RIDGE, you can only see an empty space close to the SATA ports 0 and 1 for it. It is evident that the manufacturer planned this upgrade since the beginning of the production, but didn´t implement it into the first version of the MB (reasons unknown).
There is also a newer version - rev1.1 - of the MB which has it and that is the one which is compatible with Thunderbolt 3 PCI-E add-in card GC-TITAN RIDGE. So, if you want to be able to use it, you need to get this revision of the MB. Hope this helps ;)
Martin, do you know what are the differencies between rev. 1.0 and 1.1/1.2 ? thx
Hi Roman, the only difference I am aware of is, that rev.1 doesn´t have Thunderbolt™ Add-in Card Connector and rev1.1/1.2 do. (in my video you can see an empty white rectangle on the PCB almost touching SATA ports and the chipset´s fan cover (it says „THB_C“). Rev1.1/1.2 will also come with new BIOSes, but that is something owner of any version will update anyway.
Its for - 40 Gb/s Intel® Thunderbolt™ 3 Certified Add-in Card - GC-TITAN RIDGE (rev. 1.0) - www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/... (card can be placed into PCIE-slot on the MB and connected to this Thunderbolt header by a cable)
@@MartinsLab Thank you very much, very helpfull, I am planning to purchase this board for the upcomming Ryzen 5000 series. Hopefully this would be a good choice. BTW very nice detailed features description, hope you get some more subscribers. BTW are´nt you czech?
@@romanpirschel3053 You´re welcome, glad you liked the video! I think its going to be a good base for Ryzen 5000 series, quality VRMs and enough connectivity. You´ll just have to update the BIOS to F30 (AGESA 1.0.8.1) or newer. Good guess - Yes, I´m Czech from Prague. Is my accent too thick?
@@MartinsLab Yes, I was guessing based on accent... Inac ja som zo Slovenska tak som rozmyslal ci nenapisat rovno v slovencine :-) Vsimol som si v inom videu ako rozotierate termalnu pastu na procesore. Mate to overene s lepsimi vysledkami? Vzdy ma zaujimalo ci sa to oplati takto predciznejsie rozotierat
Tak slovenštině samozřejmě rozumím 😉 Většinou ale odpovídám lidem anglicky bez rozdílu národnosti, protože tomu pak rozumí většina světa. Udělám výjimku.
S tou pastou je to tak, že je lepší jí použít „tak akorát“, aby pak nepřetekla po nasazení chladiče procesoru na socket a nenadělala nepořádek (nebo případně něco nezkratovala pokud je zároveň i elektricky vodivá - některé obsahují příměsi kovů - Al, Cu, Zn atd.).
Co se týče teplot, tak tam platí, že pro ideální přenos tepla z povrchu procesoru, je třeba co největší plocha kontaktu s povrchem destičky chladiče, za použití co nejlepšího tepelného vodiče, v co nejmenší vrstvě. Což znamená:
a) dostatečné množství pasty - pokrývající celý povrch CPU
b) v co nejmenší vrstvě (o to se většinou postará tlak nasazeného chladiče a nelze to příliš ovlivnit ničím jiným než dotažením šroubů na socketu)
c) Třetí zásadní proměnnou je tepelná vodivost použité termální pasty, která má obrovský dopad na celkový výsledek. Čím vyšší číslo W/mK, tím lépe. Pokud pominu tekutý kov (má super vodivost, ale má své velké nevýhody), tak je v současnosti nejlepší pasta Thermal Grizzly Kryonat s tepelnou vodivostí 12,5W/mK.
Roztírání pomocí „pytlíku na rohlíky“ trvá, jak jsem změřil ve videu necelé 2 minuty (takže je to chvilka) a výsledek je výborný - pokrává rovnoměrně celou plochu CPU a nic nikam nepřetéká. Zkoušel jsem i méně precizní roztírání plastikovou kartou s tím, že teploty byly stejné, ale došlo k přetečení pasty - což je zbytečná práce navíc s čištěním. Nejhorší, co člověk může udělat, je dát tam pasty nedostatek, to má drastické dopady na přenos tepla a tím i na výslednou teplotu CPU.
Pokud se to odflákne a udělá se pouze „bobek“ (což dělá většina lidí), tak se téměř nikdy neodhadne správné množství na pokrytí celé plochy CPU a často to udělá na CPU kolečko (vyzkoušeno po odlepení chladiče) a pasta se pak nedostane do krajů a nevyužije se tak efektivně celá plocha CPU k odvodu tepla do chladiče. Pro mě pytlík na rohlíky „zůstává number 1“ 😊
Does Ultra have the same placement and features minus some features?
Yes, there are some differences:
Ultra has: an HDMI output for APU - Master doesn´t
Master has: CLR CMOS and Q-Flash Plus buttons and an additional 2,5G LAN port and golden plated audio jacks on the rear IO + uses ESS Sabre 9118 DAC for audio, 2x 8pins for CPU powering (Ultra has 8+4pin) - Ultra doesn´t
@@MartinsLab accidentally broke my lock in the process of removing a GPU. Will there be problems?
@@anonnimoose7987 Maybe, it depends on how broken it is. If you can still place the GPU inside PCIE slot, it would be wise to mount the GPU by 2 screws to the back side of the case and use an extra „Video Card Sag Holder Bracket“ (if the GPU is large or heavy).
Something like this: www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08C2CTPV6?tag=iggy08-21&keywords=video%20card%20sag%20holder&geniuslink=true
It depends also depends on how long cards are placed in PCIE slots under your GPU + you shouldn´t be moving your case of course.
Triple fan so it's heavy. Was gonna use a 2nd one for gpu passthrough (the top part thats connected to the cpu) and the middle one is the one that's connected to the x570
@@anonnimoose7987 So, you are using 2 GPUs?
The middle x16 PCIE slot is also connected to directly to the CPU like the first one, but can run only at x8 speed effectively.
When you occupy both (1st and 2nd), each will run at x8 speed. When only the first one is occupied, it will run at x16 speed effectively.
Only the 3rd (bottom) PCIE slot runs at x4 speed effectively and is connected to the chipset.
If one of the GPUs is longer, you might put it into the slot with broken lock and reinforce is from the bottom using the holder bracket. The lock is not necessary for the GPU to work, it just helps keeping it in place.
If you posted a link with a picture or said what are the models of GPUs and which lock on which slot is broken it would be easier to imagine what could be done 😉
Could anyone recommended Bios Settings for running aorus 3090 in Pcie slot #1 and then putting a MSI 3080ti in slot #2? I am using a gpu riser with usb for the 3080ti. Thanks much
Hi Bradley, assuming you are using “Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master” motherboard - there isn´t much to recommend other than updating the BIOS to the latest version if possible and also using the latest X570 chipset drivers.
If you place “Aorus 3090” into the “#1 PCI-E x16 slot” and “MSI 3080Ti” raiser into “#2 PCIe x16 slot” (runs only in x8 speed effectively - no matter how big is the GPU connector) each of the two PCIE x16 slots will run only at x8 speed effectively in PCIE 4.0 mode (since both GPUs are PCIE 4.0 compatible) thanks to automatic bifurcation which will “kick in”.
This means that each GPU will have 15 754 GB/s (x8 PCIE 4.0) bandwidth available. The motherboard will automatically switch to bifurcation mode (cutting the first slot´s 16 PCIE lanes to 8) and leaving the 8 PCIE lanes active (which are available in the second slot).
In other words those two slots PCIE are sharing 16 PCIE lanes and whenever the second one is occupied each can use only 8.
However, if you want to be sure and want to check it, do this:
1) Enter BIOS (pressing “DELETE” at startup)
2) Press “F2” (Advanced mode)
3) Go to “Settings” > IO Ports > PCIEX16 Bifurcation > an it should be set to „Auto“ (which is the default)
4) If you want to enforce the division of PCIE lanes to egual distribution, you can press „Enter“ on it a choose „PCIE 2x8“ and Enter
5) Press „F10“ (Save and Exit) and you´re done
@@MartinsLab Thank you for the reply! Greatly appreciated!
Slides motherboard across OUTSIDE of ESD bag to put it on ESD safe mat. ;(
Could have been done better “without the sliding of ESD bag" - agreed. The MB survived 😉
@@MartinsLab They build them pretty well these days. I would like to see more torture/quality tests.
@@PokèMyBalls Actually, I tortured this board quite a lot. I ran benchmarks (Cinebench R20, Blender, DaVinci Resolve - renders of this particular video and AIDA Extreme stress test + Intel Burn test) on it for a week when I was doing the “Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 vs Zalman CNPS20X ” video.
I also did several RAID 1 array rebuilds with M.2 NVMe SSDs when I was doing “How to setup RAID1..” video and then I tested the back USB-C port in a brutal way when I did “M.2 USB-C external box test” video (several TBs were transferred).
Therefore I have a good reason to believe this board is solid. (There may exist some malfunctioning pieces right from the factory like with any other board, but my experience so far with the piece used in this video has been fine.)
Wow, this was excellent, highly detailed, and thorough. Thanks for the details on the M.2s disabling the 2 SATA ports. That helped me plan around that potential problem.
You´re welcome! One of the possibilities is placing a separate PCI-E SATA controller/RAID adapter into the 3rd PCIE slot if you need more of them.
@@MartinsLab Hmm, wouldn't that also deactivate SATA ports? I know that's the case on some boards.
@@RicochetForce No, only using 3rd M.2 socket (M2C) which shares bandwidth with the SATA 3 4/5 connector (which is the one I referred to in the video) also results in disconnecting it completely - you can find it on page 32 in the manual as “(x): Not available”.
There is an overall bandwidth limitation which is shared by 2nd a 3rd M.2 sockets (M2B and M2C) and 3rd PCI-E 4.0 x16 slot (which effectively runs only at PCIE 4.0 x4 speed) and all SATA ports from the chipset X570 to the CPU - which is four PCIE 4.0 lanes (7,877 GB/s). But this doesn´t disable anything, it only results in shared bandwidth - more devices compete for 7,877 GB/s „pipe“ to the CPU.
@@MartinsLab Ah, that seems like a good workaround. One NVME SSD in M2A, one in M2AB, and one in the 3rd PCIe slot you mentioned with an adapter card. Thanks for the help!
@@RicochetForce No problem. What I meant was, one M.2 SSD in each M.2 slot (M2A, M2B and M2C) + adapter card in 3rd PCIE x4 slot - which can allow you to connect 4 - 12 SATA SSDs/HDDs - depending on which adapter you choose). Shared bandwidth doesn´t matter, because you almost never READ/WRITE to all drives you have at the same time and continuously - which means the “shared bandwidth problem” doesn´t affect real life use except for very specific scenarios (You haven´t mentioned what you do on your PC, so I don´t know if it has any effect in your particular use-case or not).