As you all know, Americans have the most modern weapons in the world, but when they fought in Vietnam, they failed miserably, the blue slot war was the highest number of American soldiers killed in any war that the US had fought. have participated until now a history lesson that they still remind and never forget at all times when the president talks about the green slot campaign in Vietnam. China invaded Vietnam in 79 with the pretext of self-defense, but in fact China mobilized a large number of troops to attack 6 border provinces of Vietnam while Vietnam was helping Cambodia fight the Khmer Rouge. Cambodian and Vietnamese civilian killers China supported the Khmer Rouge and supported them to fight Vietnam. When the Chinese crossed the border to fight, Vietnam was left with only border guards and local militiamen and farm workers who stood up and took up arms to cooperate in combat, the Vietnamese elite were now in Cambodia fighting the Western border. Nam and the Khmer Rouge could not return in time. the Vietnamese militia and self-defense forces they did not have enough equipment when merging with the main soldiers and the border guards, they were as agile as the soldiers, they realized that the Chinese soldiers did not have a battle strategy, Cowardly, and do not know how to fight, that is only fighting with militia and self-defense forces. If they meet Vietnamese elite soldiers, China will suffer many times more damage. Visiting the old battlefield, the Americans still don't understand why Vietnam has a series of battles that cause the US and China to die so tragically, many soldiers return every time they think of the war in the jungles of Vietnam, they are terrified. How their comrades fell is a haunting error for them all their life, they have always been afraid of the Vietnamese forest.
Các bạn Trung Quốc nghĩ gì về cuộc chiến tranh biên giới Việt-Trung 1979, tại sao các bạn lại nói đó là cuộc chiến tranh tự vệ trong khi bộ đội chủ lực của chúng tôi đang ở chiến trường Tây Nam Cambodia. Chúng tôi lấy đâu ra được lực lượng quân đội để tấn công các bạn, hãy suy nghĩ!
主持人在本期节目中出现两处错误: 第一个错误是：主持人高晓松说越南很善战，顽强，连美国都不能战胜它。主持人的这种认识是错误的。美国的军事实力可以同时轻松击败几个越南这样的国家。如果美国抛弃政策上的束缚而与越南进行全面战争的话（不使用核武器，只从事常规战），美国不需耗费很大精力便可击败越南。70年代美国拥有可以同时进行两个半战争的国力，即在同一时间里打两个全面战争，另外还可以应付一个局部冲突（即半个战争），也就是所谓的“两个半战争”理论。事实上，当越南在巴黎和谈上讨价还击，拖延签字，使和谈于1972年12月13日破裂时，尼克松总统便下令对河内进行代号为“Linebacker II, 中后卫II“的圣诞节轰炸行动。轰炸于谈判破裂后第五天，即12月18日开始，到12月29日，轰炸第12天，越南就请求恢复巴黎和谈，几个星期后，巴黎和平谈判协议便得以签订，越战宣告结束。可见，美国在越南的失败不是军事上的失败，而是政策上的失败。主持人在本期节目中所犯的第二个错误是：高晓松说在对越自卫反击战开始前，中国军队从1953年朝鲜战争结束后就再也没有打过仗。众所周知，1962年，为了打击印度对中国的疯狂挑衅和对中国领土的蚕食，中国军队对印军发动了为时1个月零1天的反击战。从10月20日到11月21日，中国军队将印军打得溃不成军，满地找牙，成功地捍卫了中国的尊严和领土完整。这场中印边界自卫反击战成为印度的国耻和永远无法消失的伤痛。在印度人心中奠定了中国人高于印度人的概念
Người trung quốc có kiểu tự sướng như AQ của Chu Chụ Nhân (Lỗ Tấn) nhỉ. Người mỹ chiến thắng mà phải rút quân ở việt nam à, tại sao chính quyền nam việt nam phải sụp đổ và chạy trốn sag mỹ vậy. Xét lúc đó kinh nghiệm chiến tranh Trung quốc còn non nớt lắm nếu so với Việt Nam khi Việt Nam mới đánh nhau với mỹ xong.
There were 4 families in a suburb call “the World”: America - the richest and most powerful, China -the second richest and powerful, Vietnam - a poor but brave family living in a house just in front of China’s, Cambodia - a poor family who live in the right of Vietnam’s house. Not long ago, America intruded into Vietnam’s garden and beat his wife and son badly for some unclear reasons, Vietnam stood up and chased America out of his garden, although he got several injures. During that time, Cambodia told China about his will to erase his current family to free himself for a new marriage and got China support. China gave him money to buy gun and promise to keep quiet. While Vietnam was putting bandage on his wife’s and his own wounds from the fight with America, Cambodia quietly came over to Vietnam’s garden and stabbed Vietnam’s son who was playing there. Hearing his son’s scream desperately, Vietnam rushed out to see his son in a blood pond. He could only have enough time calling his wife to take care of the poor boy and ran followed Cambodia. Cambodia ran back home and locked his wife and daughter in a room, shoot one of his son in his head, beat the other son till dead, and kept hitting his wife and toddle who were tied to a chair. Vietnam was in front of Cambodia’s house knocking on the door to ask Cambodia out to talk; in reply he could only hear Cambodia’s wife and little toddle scream in dismay. The whole neighbourhood heard the scream. China turned his music loud pretending he could not hear anything. People from other nearby houses peered their heads out of their windows asking what’s happening? America knew Cambodia’s wife and children were in danger but because all of his hatred to Vietnam he just hoped Cambodia would kill Vietnam too. So America shouted to everybody to get back to their houses, nothing wrong. At this state, Vietnam decided to break into Cambodia’s window, ran through the kitchen, up to the bedroom where Cambodia’s stabbing nonstop his wife. He broke in the room, fought Cambodia to the floor, got shot in his leg but managed to tie Cambodia’s hands. China saw it all, he ran out in front of Cambodia’s house and shouted to all neighbours, “Vietnam intruded Cambodia, I’ll teach him a lesson”. And there he ran to Vietnam’s house with his son holding the sharpest knives that they have; they broke the door and immediately stabbed Vietnam’s injured wife and son. Vietnam’s wife bravely fought back, got many wound but managed to badly injure China. Vietnam’s wife let China and his son to withdraw and she hurried back to her son who was bleeding on the floor. On the way out, China and his son destroyed the whole Vietnam’s kitchen. In front of Cambodia’s house, all neighbours were drawn by America and China and were shouting at Vietnam who was inside, condemned his action as an intruder and asking him out to give his hand up. Nobody care to Vietnam’s wife and son who were begging for help just nearby. Vietnam untied Cambodia’s wife and toddle, gave them a knife to protect themselves, and then decided to go back home to take his wife and son to hospital. When Vietnam’s gone, all neighbours got in and called police to catch the already tied Cambodia. On the way Vietnam drove his car to hospital, people yelled at him for his intrusion into Cambodia’s house. Sometime later, Cambodia’s wife and toddle recovered, and now lived in the house with no man. China is tempted by Cambodia’s wife, they have kept flirting recently. To bribe Cambodia’s daughter, China have bought a lot of sweet for her. This naïve little girl enjoys the sweet so much that now she likes China more than anyone else. And as her memory about what happened faded away, she even starts learning Vietnam hatred from China. At Cambodia’s tribunal, he was the only one who faced the verdict, the one who gave him support was not named. America and other neighbours got medals for their courage acts. Vietnam’s name was never mentioned. However, in some of their accusation, Cambodia’s wife and daughter blame Vietnam for intruding into their house and ask for his compensation for their broken windows and doors. When being asked about “gratitude”, they answer “We could have been able to free ourselves without Vietnam’s intervention” There were 4 families in a suburb call “the World”: America - the richest and most powerful, China -the second richest and powerful, Vietnam - a poor but brave family living in a house just in front of China’s, Cambodia - a poor family who live in the right of Vietnam’s house. Not long ago, America intruded into Vietnam’s garden and beat his wife and son badly for some unclear reasons, Vietnam stood up and chased America out of his garden, although he got several injures.
Thật chính xác..Thanks fr VN..Mỹ ,China luôn là nạn nhân của VN thế mới tài dù VN nhỏ bé tý ti..Họ luôn thắng ơn Tivi..Ở VN có câu..Vừa Ăn Cướp Vừa La Làng quả đúng với 2 kẻ đạo đức giả này.
Lũ Trung Quốc xâm lược, đánh không được lại bịa đặt bảo là mình bị tấn công. Thật nhục nhã. 1 nước nhỏ lại dám xâm lược nước lớn ư? Người dân Trung Quốc thật ngu đần mới tin những gì chính phủ của họ nói
我爸打过对越自卫反击战，我爸打进越南了，然后我听我老爸说，一打进去，结果发现很多物资都是中文，就是那时候抗美援越中国支援的～
向您父亲致敬！保家卫国，好男儿所为！
我老爸54军的。杀入凉山。
侵略 怎么啦 ?曹尼玛的。。
来，我外公打抗美援朝，劳资当了12年兵，安德里北街21号，来抓劳资这个战犯来。！劳资家里三代战犯，艹你妈。 来抓劳资。煞笔轮子。滚你麻痹里去
在中越边境，越军挑起武装冲突，派遣武装人员越界侵扰，在中国领土上进行武装行动，制造了浦念岭、庭毫山等事件。同时，越南撕毁1958年北越政府承认东沙群岛、西沙群岛、中沙群岛、南沙群岛属于中国的声明，占领南沙群岛96%以上的岛屿。
我老家有个老朋友是越战下来徐志友亲自用茅台给他敬过酒，今年差不多快七十了，听他说当时越南人很不好打，下雨山上留的水都是红的。第一场战争的时候中国人是没少伤亡是因为陆军和炮兵一听见炮想都乱了。后来适应几天就好了，当时他一个加强班才回来五六个人，后勤休息一个月又掉到前线当侦查代理排长。清理越军的堡垒，他说有一次五个越南人打中国一个营的兵力，最后他们消灭了越军看见一个女的胳膊受伤了。几个当兵的用刺刀挑起来，
竟放屁
@hill loku 蒋亿地是个反串狗，不用鸟它
徐志友是哪位😮许世友吧，三个字你错了两个，还把将军的姓都改了，你可真行😂
好功力！頭腦冷靜，有啥說啥，不給統治者塗脂抹粉，佩服！
我爸爸也是从越战回来的，以前不懂不理解他，现在我明白了体谅他。
不懂你什么事情不理解他
@@peterchen1385 估计是因为军旅怠慢了家人
看多了尸山血海，老兵都有后遗症
我外公是国军，一共打了17年战争，战场上太悲惨了
@@longdragon88 ，
八年后来重看，这战术打法和核酸防疫真的是同宗同脉了
纠正一个事情：150师448团被包围的不是整个团，是二营另加2个连队。起初被包围的是二营（因上级指挥失误，二营被安排孤军走山路撤退回国，结果被越军发现并包围，后来派去一连和八连两个连队进山接应二营（派去的接应部队太少也是送死，这又是上级指挥失误），结果这两个连队的援兵也被越军分割包围。所以，被越军包围的是448团二营，另加2个连队，以及团侦察连的一个排。
咱也不懂，赞就完了
448团8连集体投降，虽保住了性命却换来了耻辱
投降两个连，由军官阵前投降200人左右，到目前为止仍有290多人 算失踪，但是按阵亡待遇给家属，150师丙种后勤生产部队，全员6000，站前补充成甲种
@@ppgun7096 该师是守备部队,不是野战军的作战部队,该团是这个师的王牌团,该团投降没有这么多人,被俘连投降的共209人,当年中方被俘人员共有290多人,该团占绝大部分
@@不抛弃不放弃-r3o 啥叫换来了耻辱？用战士的生命换当官的荣誉吗？被包围该是底层官兵承担后果吗？
八年！一直是你最精彩！
越南刚从与美国这个大国的20年战争中走出来，经济疲惫不堪，又被美国及其盟友围攻和禁运，柬埔寨波尔布特大军出动后，越南并没有太平多久袭击了该国南部，造成数千名平民被屠杀，越南不得不发动反击，许多主力师必须立即前往柬埔寨战场。 令人难以置信的是，中国人认为越南以北部山区省份的少数当地士兵首先主动进攻中国，你有脑子，你一定会思考，对吧？？？
你是越南人，你还是没想明白，跟越南打战，是中国跟苏联交恶很多年的结果。你得懂那会中国跟苏联关系早就不好了十来年了。其中一起扶持的越南摆脱美国侵略后，马上一边倒向苏联对中国南北夹击。
打仗不需要借口吗？你是煞笔吗？
大家都有脑子，只有你没脑子
这场仗是个邓的投名状，替美国出气。普通人才没啥看法呢
就是侵略没啥说的，可怜那些将士，为了自己的使命牺牲，但使命欺骗了大家。
高晓松说的不对！第一批对越反击战的广州军区部队里没有54军。当时54军驻地在河南新乡，隶属于武汉军区。广州军区第一批参战部队里有55军。55军的前身是四野48军。最后打下凉山的也是55军。高晓松是弄错了！
他说话，你听听就好
没错，我爸就在55军165师，哪里有54军的事
@@peterzhang9144 老公知了满嘴跑火车
一个就写过几首歌的人 讲故事，听听就好
@@厅长沛县 全当放屁，矮大紧懂的不多，狗粮喂的多，放屁贼臭
战争没有谁对谁错。对越自卫反击战时我读高中。我们县就有部队参战。有几位战斗英雄到我们高中作报告。讲到牺牲的战友就大哭流泪。现在想想，越南人不也为死去的战友或家人哀嚎？为什么近百万人素不相识却一见面就杀的你死我活？也许佛家是正确的：千百年来碗里羹，怨深似海愤难平；要知世上战事因，且听夜半屠门声。
得了吧，越南当年不打的话，中国南边就会出现一个小一号的印度。
Trisha Han 谁爱打战，但是国家不允许外来人侮辱
部队就是别人的枪,其实并不知道用它的人是出于何种目的，…～……
去你妈逼的没有谁对谁错，去你妈逼的流氓共产主义战士！他们不是为国捐躯，他们是为一群流氓而死。
战争没有什么为什么，开疆扩土，保卫领土是任何动物集体的社会行为，佛学不过是美好愿景罢了
以后只能在RUclips上看你了。
😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
这货有啥好看的？
@@guoxhs then why are you here?
@@derenggefu802 问得好
@@derenggefu802 路过
How are you Mr. Gao? We wish all fine and well. Please stay safe and healthy. We miss you.
讲得那么好，居然还有人踩。
@@doyoudive 这讲的好多都是错的。。。
@@张云钦-m3d 说说
@@doyoudive 说一个，他12分左右说越南只有三个正规师，这个就是错的。当年和我军作战的越军就有10万人，还有不计其数的民兵，只有三个师是显然不可能的。
张云钦 是说正规师，后来又从首都调了部队
@@Nux2012 我记得当年越南在边疆的正规师有九只，六只和我军正面对抗，还有数个独立团，旅级别部队，再加上不计其数的民兵部队，具体番号可以在网上找到，时间有点久具体的我忘记了。之后从各地调兵是没错，但刚开始没有他说的那么不堪。
我爸是76年退伍的工程部队老兵，懂电工，对越战争结束后，他被镇派去茂名石油公司领高压电路设备回来。这些设备，包括一些电表，都是中国援助越南语。
别的不说，这位口才真好。希望还有机会能回来做节目。
矮大紧知识丰富见多识广
这个傻逼就是个脱口秀演员，
没文化只能练好口才了，不然怎么忽悠你们这样的😑
@@刨冰要加双倍炼乳井底的蛤蟆就是自大，告诉我，你有什么文化？
@@刨冰要加双倍炼乳瞧你那揍性
赶紧删了中间的动画吧，又无聊声音还难听
最近开始听 晓年鉴， 又回来这边 旧地重游。
10：00时候刻意回避了西哈努克和红色高棉的区别， 一遍接待西哈努克，一遍支持红色高棉，看似两边下注，结果两边不讨好
高晓松是我最喜欢的艺术家，文人，他的晓说在中国是最受欢迎的节目，同类节目无人能及，可惜在体制的铁拳下再也无法在国内看到他了
正常。现在国内粉红当道。
@@吴阿莫 台湾不是哇军当道？
As you all know, Americans have the most modern weapons in the world, but when they fought in Vietnam, they failed miserably, the blue slot war was the highest number of American soldiers killed in any war that the US had fought. have participated until now a history lesson that they still remind and never forget at all times when the president talks about the green slot campaign in Vietnam. China invaded Vietnam in 79 with the pretext of self-defense, but in fact China mobilized a large number of troops to attack 6 border provinces of Vietnam while Vietnam was helping Cambodia fight the Khmer Rouge. Cambodian and Vietnamese civilian killers China supported the Khmer Rouge and supported them to fight Vietnam. When the Chinese crossed the border to fight, Vietnam was left with only border guards and local militiamen and farm workers who stood up and took up arms to cooperate in combat, the Vietnamese elite were now in Cambodia fighting the Western border. Nam and the Khmer Rouge could not return in time. the Vietnamese militia and self-defense forces they did not have enough equipment when merging with the main soldiers and the border guards, they were as agile as the soldiers, they realized that the Chinese soldiers did not have a battle strategy, Cowardly, and do not know how to fight, that is only fighting with militia and self-defense forces. If they meet Vietnamese elite soldiers, China will suffer many times more damage. Visiting the old battlefield, the Americans still don't understand why Vietnam has a series of battles that cause the US and China to die so tragically, many soldiers return every time they think of the war in the jungles of Vietnam, they are terrified. How their comrades fell is a haunting error for them all their life, they have always been afraid of the Vietnamese forest.
Trong khi nước Việt nhỏ bé không lấn 1cm đất nào mà bảo là tự vệ. Công nhận diễn hề giỏi thật. Vậy mà mị được dân nữa chứ.
Họ diễn hài giỏi quá.
战争没有赢家！越南死亡远高美
战争不是战士发动的。是那些有着野心的政治狂徒家发动的。请珍惜来之不易的和平。远离残酷的战火。
正确
打的一拳开，免得百拳来。没有老一辈的牺牲就换不来中国几十年的和平发展。
你居然还不知道越南战争为什么打？？？是为了保护红色高棉那个恐怖组织好吗
@@afly9168你是个🐷吗
不管别人怎么说你，我还是挺喜欢你的。
因为他讲的很多事实，只有搞臭他，才能降低他的影响力
南京军参战人数也不少..我们团去了一百多人..我们连17个..死了2个.浙江江山人..我们的老兵战友群那十几个幸存者都在.我92年兵.我们连连史记载者他们去时带着红花的照片.
致敬
这期节目就别戏说了，越战我军伤亡惨重，太多新兵被杀的惨不忍睹，我身边很多叔叔大爷辈的都有过这经历、或是有战友，很多人牺牲、残疾，国家又没给越战进行多大的经济补偿，很多伤残兵生活非常苦。我家附近一个断了一条腿的老人就是，他冬天自己摇着 轮椅独轮车出来卖 年画、春联，常年穿一身破军装，不知道 有没有家人，反正没看到过有人照顾他。他们的伤残补贴在当时还算不错，但是不随通货膨胀增加，随着物价慢慢长高，他们都成了低保户。
你知道当年越南有多少不穿军装的游击队被杀吗？越军伤亡至少我军四五倍以上。
@@Randolf-xe7iu 人家是反侵略
@@xiaoyu5549 你错了，中国是反侵略。越南小霸王想要统一东南亚，当时已经出兵占领控制了老挝和柬埔寨，还对泰国缅甸跃跃欲试。
中国绝不可能坐视膨胀后的越南统一东南亚，给中国带来巨大威胁。也坚决反对越南侵占他国领土。在把越南北部的工业基础摧毁一遍后就撤军了，不占领一寸土地。
@@Randolf-xe7iu 60000 quân trung quốc bị điện giật chết
@@macao3955 i don't know what you said.
but In China no one think vietnam is enemy.
死亡的军人补助并不是一次性发放的，虽然当时说的是一次性，但是各地方政府在后面又陆续发放了补助，对于伤残军人，到现在还是在每年领着，少则2-3万/年，我们镇上有个伤残兵（四肢健全，自己说有什么后遗症），这个人不招别人喜欢，包括其他伤残军人也不喜欢他。他每年领了国家发放的补助金外还要跟镇政府要钱，说去广西扫墓，回来却在镇上吹牛自己去海南旅游了，他儿子建房子，他就去政府要十几万，平常年份也是几万几万的要。要到了还出去吹牛，现在就是走在路上被人在背后指点的货色。
这种人挺多的。。我有个同学才不到30 页说参军有后遗症 其实没有。现在每月白领不少钱。。
援朝战争是向苏联交投名状，打越南是向美国交的投名状
对头
精辟
不能那么说，倒果为因的说法。抗美援朝是被迫的，同样对越自卫反击战也是被迫的，中苏交恶加上越南的膨胀，如果不加干涉必为将来的大患。
邓小平为了自己的威信，不顾国际反对，捍然侵略越南
错，应该是受到了大部分国家的支持或默许。
讲的不错，很客观真实.
七年了，我看了这么多年
UI agony ot rhythm and u we tra
@@Mr390101 jj
我也没想到2022年我还在看高晓松，国内现在还有啥可看的
我父亲是广州军区参战部队的。
70年代和美国交好，而苏联和越南也是越来越亲密，加上苏联和朝鲜的支援，中方从自身利益出发也需要教训越南，算立一个
中美亲好的投名状。
也可以理解为敲打苏联，揍它小弟
想念高老师
名是自衛反擊戰,實是侵略行為,主要原因两個:1,越南揮軍打擊赤柬波爾布德集團,打越南可改救波爾布德;2,向美递交投名狀,聯美抗蘇,改革開放。
享受荣華富貴的是一衆高官老爺,老伯姓等來的只有失去親人的悲劇。
放尼玛屁
老百姓等来了改革开放，生活发生了翻天覆地的变化。
Bạn nói đúng
Chuẩn
Bạn chuẩn
我家一位亲戚，当时在黑龙江雪地里面趴了一个月。当时的命令就是“南打北防”
哈哈哈防蘇聯
观念我的青春啊，当年直追的节目😢😂
这期节目真是高晓松的滑铁卢
滑铁卢应该是印度那集
姨夫廣州軍區的，抗美援越去過一次，自衛反擊戰去過一次，真他媽不是滋味
想起电影芳华里的战争场景 真的太心痛了
没错，这么大牌的导演，花了这么多钱，连两分钟的战斗场面都拍的跟屎一样。
所以希望世界和平不是说说而已，是打心里不希望看到战争。
Damon Chen 不想要战争，就需要实力！不要觉得岁月静好，总有人在替你负重前行！
人海战术嘛，你们就是用来消耗的...而且还是有进步的，在朝鲜打美军一个师打一个连，打越南一个团打一个排.........还行还行
@@tangtangwang7149 只能证明对面指挥不行
十年蜜月期，89年的六四事件就结束了
对
只有他在讲，烈士的不易和我军的英勇，结果就他成了公知，讽刺不讽刺……呵呵，喊口号的还不如一个文化的传承者，这是一个什么政府！教育出来的什么国民？！
高老师随便听了几个段子就来讲！对不住坐着的大沙发
我以前的部队坦克查履历簿上面都有记录，在哪里受损，被什么弹打的，对照履历簿查坦克还可以找到打的补丁，基本每个坦克都有洞
点赞 同意 不能忘记那些为国牺牲的人
布鞋不防水, 當年品質..., 恐怕沒這麼好吧...
不過曉說還滿敢講的, 其他影片都只講有多厲害, 曉說才敢講出不堪的地方...
中國需要敢講實話的人, 偏偏這種人很容易被查水表... 但敢講實話才會讓人反省, 才容易進步
不講實話, 只會讓人沉浸在謊言中, 到時候怎麼死的恐怕都不知道.
讲得太好了
听真实的陈述是我们需要做的。
軍事是為政治服務地,懲越是最小的因素,鄧小平利用這場戰爭可以完全掌握國家權力,然後取得美國的信任
展開經濟的改革開放
666
难道说自卫反击是打给美国人看的吗？
宋京洲 有这个因素，但更重要的是绝对掌握军权。
就如同毛当年的抗美援朝吧
暖海海 不是 最主要的原因是越南当时统一了，自信心爆棚 并且进攻柬埔寨 号称要统一中南半岛 不修理他 中国边陲会生出个强国可不是什么好事情
Rất tiếc không có phụ đề 😂😂😂
男声旁边居然是庄河口音，太扯了吧，高兄咋选的？
说的这么公道为啥在墙内还被禁言？
你这不是自问自答么？共产党要你说的是公道话？
@@ngflycloud 都是野史，完全是反动言论，他自己一直都被人讨论有问题
共产党讲公道？
@@奔跑-p8l 反动？你正着动动我看看
@@奔跑-p8l 秽史掩盖了正史
当时还没跟柬埔寨撤回来的越南精兵打呢，虽然战略成功了但也发现自己军队作战各个方面落后后来全面反思
咱的精锐也都在北方防苏联呢。
@@viibridges tao thấy nhực cho china quá ác ôn đánh giết dân thường. Mong một ngày mỹ dập nát china. ❤❤
你说的炮瞄雷达实际上炮兵定位雷达，可以根据敌方炮弹的轨迹算出发炮点，这是瑞典70年代初期产品。中国通过第三国得到两套。越战中，越南派特工潜入雷达站，炸毁了其中一台。有关资料，在“文学城”军事栏目可以查到。
文学城已被轮子攻破
矮大紧这方面还挺专业，他清华学雷达专业，虽然退学了
你不用和他说雷达的事儿，他比你专业
经过四十年的一胎化计生，我们现在是兵强马壮万众一心，如果再爆发战争，我们有独生子女可以去当兵啊，现在部队里面85%的士兵都是独生子女，死一个就绝一户,他们冲锋的时候肯定最勇敢了。也可以让“超生”儿来保家卫国啊，他们的生命是父母交了计生罚款买回来的，是这个国家的负担累赘，是多余的不应该出生的人，他们应该最热爱这个国家了！再不行我们还有1300万计生黑户啊，他们肯定最愿意保卫自己计生黑户的崇高地位并让自己的子孙可以世世代代当计生黑户！ 到2030年我国还会有4亿多老人，那可是取之不尽的兵源那，你想想看当一群颤颤巍巍的老头老太发起冲锋的时候哪个敌人会下的去那个手！作为一名热血的中国人，他们最崇高的理想就是去当兵保卫计生委可以放心地拖自己的妻子姐妹女儿去强制堕胎结扎上环，为计生委站岗放哨！
美国最坏，看看伊拉克
小看军人 进了军营的都是战士 不是什么独生子女了
邓洋 和高看小看无关，和有没有脑子有关系，脑子是个好东西，得有，没脑子的进去后洗一洗就彻底干净了，有脑子的人会思考，思考自己将要保卫的是国家？还是保卫的是人民？还是保卫的政权？还是保卫的权贵阶层继续持有的特权？还是保卫城管半夜驱逐低端人口的权力？嘿嘿，脑子是个好东西，得有？除非保卫的就是你的阶层，那就另当别论了！
我党无敵 假以时日 统一地球 指日可待
Jian Zhang 抗洪抢险的是不是军人 抗震救灾的是不是军人 撤侨的是不是军人 6•4被烧死也没反抗的是不是军人 说被驱赶的是低端人口 你知道北京送外卖的“低端人口”一个月收入多少么 一万五 他们是舍不得花钱 舍不得租好房子 没把北京当家而已
被强拆的那个不是想闹事多要补偿的 为什么大部分人能接受的补偿 他们就不能
还说脑子 你觉得中国变成奥斯曼帝国被肢解 变成现在的叙利亚 伊拉克就好么
过去两百年 现在是最好的时代
你要是自己很惨 别怨国家 幸福是自己奋斗出来的
好意思提脑子
不是都下架了吗？这里怎么还有？
最后被围的那个团最惨，听一位老兵口述主要的原因还是指挥的不协同，后面已经宣布撤军也不好再出兵救援，只得各自突围活着回来的人不多，活着回来的人多少也受歧视，每次听这位大爷讲起来令人唏嘘
我表哥当时是福建炮兵副连长，他连队抽调了20多个人打越南，一开始中国损失惨重，死亡比是7:1，而且越南主力在柬埔寨。
@@simonz2468 都是十七八岁的娃娃兵
@@simonz2468 当时最精锐的甲种师都在东北西北一线防苏联进攻，越南都是乙种师战斗力不行
宣布撤军就不对，应该再深入，达成停战协议再撤兵
那样会被打的更惨
要是林战神在可能情况就不一样了
彪哥就是去世的早
炮侦雷达是英国的
一部英国一部瑞典
国内能让看这个？
咋不让了
非常精彩，谢谢！还希望你能讲讲被俘士官们的结局
抗美援朝那期有说过，结局非常惨，中共没人性的
老山阵地就是我爷爷部队，老山所有的工事都是我爷爷的设计
🤣
高晓松说的很中立，那段动画片是什么玩意啊
讲一半突然有个尖锐且很土的声音 好恶心 优酷品味太乡土了
本人有軍事背景，越南戰略，誘敵深入，後打補給線！
Các bạn Trung Quốc nghĩ gì về cuộc chiến tranh biên giới Việt-Trung 1979, tại sao các bạn lại nói đó là cuộc chiến tranh tự vệ trong khi bộ đội chủ lực của chúng tôi đang ở chiến trường Tây Nam Cambodia. Chúng tôi lấy đâu ra được lực lượng quân đội để tấn công các bạn, hãy suy nghĩ!
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看看你們現在那個爛樣子，怎麼看😂😂😂😅
中国普通人反对战争，这是政治家发动的战争，😢😢😢😢😢😢
听了晓松的节目有几年了, 还是学到不少知识. 看到今天的晓松, 哎可惜了.
高晓松挺好的 得罪人了被 你懂的
这样的人被禁了也好，国内的很多人不值得享受这么优质的资源
@@KingerHammer 啥乱七八糟的
@@吉良吉影-y3c 別陰謀論，他被封是輸出扭曲價值觀的原因。
就是街头说评书的！漏洞一大堆！说什么五十年代后再没打过仗！62年打印度不是打仗吗？69年打苏联不是打仗吗？这货的话听听就好，他说的是评书单口相声
1.痛打了越南后，换来了10几年的中美蜜月。
2.强化了邓在军队的领导力。
3.震慑了苏联
我想提醒你思考一個問題，你算算視頻中講我軍負面內容的佔到多少比例？不是說那次戰爭中沒有負面的點，而是，如果一個節目，面向大衆的節目中，絕大多數時間都在講我軍的失誤、錯誤甚至所謂不正義，那你要想想這個視頻講解者的用心是什麼。（這可不是我軍內部總結經驗教訓的節目）。
@@LiH-jt7ik 還有，有事說事，把說濫了的玻璃心掛嘴邊只能說明你沒有自己的思考，也不禮貌
@@LiH-jt7ik 西方怎麼講，那才是最不可能客觀啊，因為牠們是多年的敵方陣營，唯一的態度就只能是抹黑啊。向牠們靠攏會是客觀的？不敢苟同。
@@LiH-jt7ik 所謂玻璃心往往被用作無賴型的邏輯詭辯術，我說你的壞話，你不可以反駁，否則就是玻璃心……這是百分百純正的混蛋邏輯
事实而已！直面自己的不堪，知耻而后勇你不懂？
支持高晓松老师
剪删没有？？
两个国家如果不想有军事摩擦，必须要做生意，而且必须互惠互利。历史的家训！
看看欧洲各国和俄罗斯，不敢打，打不起来。
现在呢？加速师厉害
小松还是不错的，比较实在！
好節目🎉
能追加吗？
结果很多老兵们被逼到上街维权.....
老兵的福利或许不好，但是社会对他们的认同度很高。美国老兵越战后回到美国才是真的坑，史泰龙的电影都有放。我们国家实在有太多你这种蠢货了。
耶巴迪 你确实是只能从电影里发现问题了。
我小学二年级因为户口不在北京被逼遣返回云南，走之前爷爷奶奶就说要打仗，但也没办法，到了云南就看到一路的火炮坦克。之后读书的年代隔三差五就让所有同学带小板凳听英模报告，很快就听烦了，各种口音，好多是完全听不懂，但已经听明白了，有一堆自伤自毁骗军功的，还有就是趁机解决仇恨的，最著名的当然就是徐良，向自己首长打黑枪又被别人黑枪打成高位截瘫的。
徐良不是那个央视的英雄吗？哈哈哈哈，可见央视真心不能看。春晚的时候还专门一段时间拿他特写来歌颂哈哈哈
@@xjhajun1 他说的话有什么依据你也信？
Alo. Vừa ăn cướp vừa la làng😅😅😅😅
为天地立心，为生民立命，为往圣继绝学，为万世开太平
我小时候就听说这场战争 以至于成年后澳洲留学 看到越南同学还觉得心有余悸
你怕他们！
你汉家儿郎，有什么可怕的？
没有这场战争，改革开放不会顺利，你也不会有机会去澳洲留学，不要圣母
@@孙笑川-d5f 人家可是玩过真AK
你怕什么?
很有眼光的人。
想回到2014年
傻逼
能在中国讲历史，10句话里有8句是真话，就很逆天了。所以别太认真的当历史看。
说得对，不能忘记一些人。
希望政客们多打点嘴炮就好，不要让普通老百姓们去填命。
要相信政府背后有大智慧，₍ᐢ⸝⸝› ̫ ‹⸝⸝ᐢ₎
@@yunlongju6640相信你🐎
打架可以提高威望？
废话，美国不打两伊战争现在绝对没那么多国家怕它。
当时两个阵营的内部关系，用一句话来概括就是“君子和而不同，小人同而不和”！好在现在“小人”所剩无几了！
是啊我们现在
一切为了不被
历史真是无情： 变态辣椒已经变成敏感词了！ 才三年时间！
复原老兵也是敏感词
主持人在本期节目中出现两处错误: 第一个错误是：主持人高晓松说越南很善战，顽强，连美国都不能战胜它。主持人的这种认识是错误的。美国的军事实力可以同时轻松击败几个越南这样的国家。如果美国抛弃政策上的束缚而与越南进行全面战争的话（不使用核武器，只从事常规战），美国不需耗费很大精力便可击败越南。70年代美国拥有可以同时进行两个半战争的国力，即在同一时间里打两个全面战争，另外还可以应付一个局部冲突（即半个战争），也就是所谓的“两个半战争”理论。事实上，当越南在巴黎和谈上讨价还击，拖延签字，使和谈于1972年12月13日破裂时，尼克松总统便下令对河内进行代号为“Linebacker II, 中后卫II“的圣诞节轰炸行动。轰炸于谈判破裂后第五天，即12月18日开始，到12月29日，轰炸第12天，越南就请求恢复巴黎和谈，几个星期后，巴黎和平谈判协议便得以签订，越战宣告结束。可见，美国在越南的失败不是军事上的失败，而是政策上的失败。主持人在本期节目中所犯的第二个错误是：高晓松说在对越自卫反击战开始前，中国军队从1953年朝鲜战争结束后就再也没有打过仗。众所周知，1962年，为了打击印度对中国的疯狂挑衅和对中国领土的蚕食，中国军队对印军发动了为时1个月零1天的反击战。从10月20日到11月21日，中国军队将印军打得溃不成军，满地找牙，成功地捍卫了中国的尊严和领土完整。这场中印边界自卫反击战成为印度的国耻和永远无法消失的伤痛。在印度人心中奠定了中国人高于印度人的概念
杠精有意思吗，拿着放大镜看别人
这叫补充，不叫杠！
@@UTT3333 你是标准的杠精
Mầy ngu ma hay ra dẽ quá
Người trung quốc có kiểu tự sướng như AQ của Chu Chụ Nhân (Lỗ Tấn) nhỉ. Người mỹ chiến thắng mà phải rút quân ở việt nam à, tại sao chính quyền nam việt nam phải sụp đổ và chạy trốn sag mỹ vậy. Xét lúc đó kinh nghiệm chiến tranh Trung quốc còn non nớt lắm nếu so với Việt Nam khi Việt Nam mới đánh nhau với mỹ xong.
越南是厉害国的未来
国内 小松已经被封杀了，来这里看看，有些东西说的还是不错了。
没封杀吧。不是还上央视被网友骂到下线么？
真正的学者不会为当朝皇帝唱赞歌
高晓松甩头发那一刻，我笑喷了
ming liu 哈哈哈哈😂
挺热的穿个皮衣，还真是矮大紧😂
穿个皮衣，扇着扇子，这货太装逼了
对越战争不是保家卫国的战争，更偏向侵略战争，可怜了那么多年轻生命做了政治的炮灰。楼下鼓吹这场战争如何牛逼的人扪心自问，你会心甘情愿或主动把你的儿子送到别国去埋骨吗？
时间好快
讲的真好！
1、谅山离友谊关距离大约仅仅15km；
2、从友谊关到河内沿途仍然蔓延着无际的山区！
所以撤军是无奈之举！
都打到河内门口了，河内已经开始搬家了，无奈个啥？
@@上善若水-e1b 谅山离河内还有125km，而且还有无数的大山。
从友谊关打到谅山15km打了多久？死伤多少？？？
@@forrestfreeri794 越吹连点逻辑都不讲的吗？如果真像你说的有无数的大山，PLA死伤无数，无力进攻河内，那河内慌根毛线啊，至于发出了全国总动员令，在河内市区挖掘防御工事，各国外交代表团也开始向河内以南转移？从柬埔寨撤回来的越军正好来教训PLA嘛，至于像个跟屁虫一样远远地看着PLA大摇大摆地回国？不是说好的打到南宁过春节的吗？！
@@上善若水-e1b 老子走过那条路！
@@forrestfreeri794 牛B
There were 4 families in a suburb call “the World”: America - the richest and most powerful, China -the second richest and powerful, Vietnam - a poor but brave family living in a house just in front of China’s, Cambodia - a poor family who live in the right of Vietnam’s house.
Not long ago, America intruded into Vietnam’s garden and beat his wife and son badly for some unclear reasons, Vietnam stood up and chased America out of his garden, although he got several injures.
During that time, Cambodia told China about his will to erase his current family to free himself for a new marriage and got China support. China gave him money to buy gun and promise to keep quiet.
While Vietnam was putting bandage on his wife’s and his own wounds from the fight with America, Cambodia quietly came over to Vietnam’s garden and stabbed Vietnam’s son who was playing there. Hearing his son’s scream desperately, Vietnam rushed out to see his son in a blood pond. He could only have enough time calling his wife to take care of the poor boy and ran followed Cambodia.
Cambodia ran back home and locked his wife and daughter in a room, shoot one of his son in his head, beat the other son till dead, and kept hitting his wife and toddle who were tied to a chair. Vietnam was in front of Cambodia’s house knocking on the door to ask Cambodia out to talk; in reply he could only hear Cambodia’s wife and little toddle scream in dismay.
The whole neighbourhood heard the scream. China turned his music loud pretending he could not hear anything. People from other nearby houses peered their heads out of their windows asking what’s happening? America knew Cambodia’s wife and children were in danger but because all of his hatred to Vietnam he just hoped Cambodia would kill Vietnam too. So America shouted to everybody to get back to their houses, nothing wrong.
At this state, Vietnam decided to break into Cambodia’s window, ran through the kitchen, up to the bedroom where Cambodia’s stabbing nonstop his wife. He broke in the room, fought Cambodia to the floor, got shot in his leg but managed to tie Cambodia’s hands.
China saw it all, he ran out in front of Cambodia’s house and shouted to all neighbours, “Vietnam intruded Cambodia, I’ll teach him a lesson”. And there he ran to Vietnam’s house with his son holding the sharpest knives that they have; they broke the door and immediately stabbed Vietnam’s injured wife and son. Vietnam’s wife bravely fought back, got many wound but managed to badly injure China. Vietnam’s wife let China and his son to withdraw and she hurried back to her son who was bleeding on the floor. On the way out, China and his son destroyed the whole Vietnam’s kitchen.
In front of Cambodia’s house, all neighbours were drawn by America and China and were shouting at Vietnam who was inside, condemned his action as an intruder and asking him out to give his hand up. Nobody care to Vietnam’s wife and son who were begging for help just nearby. Vietnam untied Cambodia’s wife and toddle, gave them a knife to protect themselves, and then decided to go back home to take his wife and son to hospital. When Vietnam’s gone, all neighbours got in and called police to catch the already tied Cambodia. On the way Vietnam drove his car to hospital, people yelled at him for his intrusion into Cambodia’s house.
Sometime later, Cambodia’s wife and toddle recovered, and now lived in the house with no man. China is tempted by Cambodia’s wife, they have kept flirting recently. To bribe Cambodia’s daughter, China have bought a lot of sweet for her. This naïve little girl enjoys the sweet so much that now she likes China more than anyone else. And as her memory about what happened faded away, she even starts learning Vietnam hatred from China.
At Cambodia’s tribunal, he was the only one who faced the verdict, the one who gave him support was not named. America and other neighbours got medals for their courage acts. Vietnam’s name was never mentioned. However, in some of their accusation, Cambodia’s wife and daughter blame Vietnam for intruding into their house and ask for his compensation for their broken windows and doors. When being asked about “gratitude”, they answer “We could have been able to free ourselves without Vietnam’s intervention”
There were 4 families in a suburb call “the World”: America - the richest and most powerful, China -the second richest and powerful, Vietnam - a poor but brave family living in a house just in front of China’s, Cambodia - a poor family who live in the right of Vietnam’s house.
Not long ago, America intruded into Vietnam’s garden and beat his wife and son badly for some unclear reasons, Vietnam stood up and chased America out of his garden, although he got several injures.
Thật chính xác..Thanks fr VN..Mỹ ,China luôn là nạn nhân của VN thế mới tài dù VN nhỏ bé tý ti..Họ luôn thắng ơn Tivi..Ở VN có câu..Vừa Ăn Cướp Vừa La Làng quả đúng với 2 kẻ đạo đức giả này.
Một câu chuyện hài hước và thâm sâu. Rất chính xác. Và đó là sự thật.
我看这个节目不应该叫“晓说”，倒是应该叫中央电视台99！
请问我们现在有军衔了吗？
谈中越战争不谈柬埔寨的邪恶红色高棉绝对说不过去。今天的柬埔寨人民恐怕都要感谢越南的帮助吧。
hold Gold 红色高棉不是越南苏联支持的么？ 我们一直庇护西哈努克亲王，柬埔寨王族在北京还有四合院呢。。西哈努克退休一直住在北京，前几年就是在北京病逝的。不然柬埔寨会这么挺中国?
柬共亲越的那派不是红色高棉。一开始是亲美叛乱赶走了西哈努克。柬共打败了政变者执政胡搞了几年，据说死了两百万人。之后是柬共内亲越派系协助越军入侵柬埔寨，红色高棉在中国和美国的支持下坚持抵抗直到九十年代。
对
额。。。好像美国也极力支持红色高棉。。。
你就没有问问人家。。越南是什么党。。。。编故事也要用点心嘛。。。
当时对越南是闪击，因为越南重要轻重工业基地和我军了如指掌，因为大部分都是我军援建的，这一仗直接使越南工业倒退三十年，然后就是秒退出腹地开始老山拉练，轮番训练军队，而且打之前邓公已经搞定了国际各方面关系，结果就是越战之后我国经济指数增长，越南一蹶不振，邓公威武
死了的人不能重新读取档案
哇 你真是又紅又專啊 你今天還這麼粉紅嗎？中國人非正常死亡人數、死與人禍的數量、當你在其中的時候你還會相信它的謊言嗎？醒來吧，中國人被騙了這麼多年，該醒醒了⋯
你的想象力非常丰富。 事实上，越南几乎所有的工业基地都集中在海防市周围，它位于北部边境的后面很远，我们有几千年的战争史，世界上没有一个。这个世界比中国人更了解越南人，所以越南人没有在北部边境附近建立任何工业基地。 中国进攻越南的目的是拯救红色高棉（中国政府为了在越南南部施加压力支持中国而创造和抚养的孩子）。 中国人在只遇到越南边防军和民兵的情况下，用人海战术烤了很多军队，并没有达到任何目的。 事实上，越南在柬埔寨已经10年了，所以不能说中国攻打越南拯救红色高棉是成功的。 越南在1975年后的艰难发展，主要是因为中国与美国联手长期阻挠对越南的禁运，而不是因为中国摧毁了任何一个产业。 总的来说，中国领导人对我们来说，他们是地球上最邪恶的人，甚至中国领导人自己也阻止我们统一国家，并想让越南像南北一样保留国家的两半。韩国作为它就是现在。 你是不可靠的，无论你使用什么技巧和计划，你已经、现在和将来都会被越南人打败。 你们在东海的阴谋现在不能得逞，中国虚构的九段线永远不可能实现。
@@ucngocnguyen8938 还是对你们太好了，让你出现幻觉了，我们现在还给你们提供电了，弥补你们的电力不足，别尬吹了，看看两国的发展状况就好了，你们唯一的地铁线也是中国人给你们建的，现在你们还在接手印度的二手小军舰，你骄傲啥呢？要不是中国，你们国家早被美国驻军了，真以为自己多牛呢，这都2023了，见过现代战争吗？真要打你们跟玩是的，你还在那放狠话，笑死了，你们最应该感到幸运的就是你们最大的邻国是个爱好和平的国家，真实的历史就是你们真的挺贱的，别作了
@@ucngocnguyen8938自己照照镜子。中国是垃圾，政府黑暗，但是要说越南，还是算了吧，照照镜子吧猴急啥呀猴急，猴里猴气的，好好照照镜子看看你们的那个垃圾国家吧。
说的太好了。就是语速快了些。谢谢！
ABC吗？我是2倍速看的
每年都应该给哪些在解放战争、朝鲜战争、对越自卫反击战、对印战争等中牺牲的烈士们颁发国家补贴，不能让烈士们又流血又流泪。
I don’t agree.
发了，我爸去过越南，但没开枪就回来了，每个月都有补助。还有一个，说出来你都不信，他在很小的时候随口给游击队员指点了一下，就这一件事，每个月发几千块钱。
Đó là cuộc xâm lược Việt Nam khi Việt Nam khó khăn nhất. Trung Quốc thật là bẩn thỉu
Lũ Trung Quốc xâm lược, đánh không được lại bịa đặt bảo là mình bị tấn công. Thật nhục nhã. 1 nước nhỏ lại dám xâm lược nước lớn ư? Người dân Trung Quốc thật ngu đần mới tin những gì chính phủ của họ nói