Abrams should have a smaller turret ring than what is actually modeled ingame and the turret ring is reinforced with 200mm of armor it should not be easily taken out by auto cannons in game
the only realistic change to the 50 cals they did was the ammo count. IRL the cans used only hold 100 rounds of 50 BMG when they're linked together, and 150 when they're not. the M2HB was designed specifically to slow down the time it takes to overheat. but of course, it's only the american MG that can overheat now and not the MG34 with double the firerate and is known for overheating quickly, or the russian 50 cal that has to be fired in short bursts due to overheating.
God forbid they nerf things that have been broken for years instead of minor inconveniences to CAS. The 2S38, Pantsir, Ka-52, Kh-38s, Leopard 2A7s, etc. etc. All were due for nerfs or BR bumps, but nope. Gotta nerf those pesky .50 cals.
for once I agree with the us players, there was no need to nerf the 50cals literal non-issue instead of fixing the dime a dozen broken russian premiums
He meams the usa is missing its actual 105 rounds for some tanks, and the 75mm isnt correct at all for the rdlftt or hstvl, and the usa cant even have its modern tabks or a3 or a4 rounds. They also artificially nerf shit like the sepv2 by making the tusk package always on when irl its a package for any sep variant @hunterparke9059
Why they gave the round 100+ mm pen which they actually not penetrate 😂. I mean the M829A2 penetrates 547mm Armor inhame over 630. The M829A3 penetrate 705mm wich can penetrate most Russian Vehicles from the front BUT. then the DM53 has to pen over 720mm and the Armor Values for Chally 1,2,3. The Leclercs the Leo 2A6 and A5, the Type 10, Ariete the the Merkava MK4 Turret are not close correct or Balanced. It's like the Evolution of Armor doesn't got chanced specific like the Leo2A5 got a Prototype Armor Upgrade wich is fully Included in the 2A6 wich means his Hull Armor Stop 600mm Penetration from Apfsds without Armor Package like it's on the 2A7 we have 350-400mm Against apfsds. The Chally 2 early variants has after official Documents 500mm Defense against Apfsds (the first Variant), the later Variants started after the 2E with the 2F has over 900mm defense against apfsds cause of an upgrade with Siliciumcarbonat and Kevlar Wolframm Mixture. And But I am not sure about this a little Bit DU from 50mm sich increase the Armor up to 900mm from 500mm. The Leclerc has over 750mm Armor in His Hull in-game it's not even able to stop 500mm for Turret and Hull. The Type 10 has on his front tested over 700mm Armor in turret and Hull but is very vaunerble in the lower hill and the Turret ring like every tank is. There is a lot of nonsense compared in-game for Armor Values, all I say are official seen documents. In Ukrain especiall the Chally 2 got hit in the front from 6 3BM60 Rounds fired in Kursk, he got destroyed form 2 Ka52 Rocket's I think it was the Standart Ka52 Rocket in the drone footage it seems like. But he stopped before 3 of them hitting his Side Armor wich was protected with EA, Explosive Armor. When Gaijin would finally give us an Tank is able to defeat special round to rounds need to hit especially parts where it's able to penetrate. Btw. Even the Abrams and I hate this trashcan cause it sucks in the most situations cause it's build for the Desert and Fire Support for Infantry like a Sherman. The Turret Armor from the M1A2 variants is over 1150mm against apfsds. Even his lower hull has to defeat 650mm apfsds and the Tusk side Armor is able to stop 3BM42 Round and any lower. But he has insane big weak spots like on his front the Turret ring and yes the Entire Part is vaunerble like a Metal plate from a Sherman against a Tiger long 88mm Projectile. I seen so many Abrams destroyed just from an RPg7 wich Hits the upper hull and the shrapnel ls just ripped threw the turret ring. And yes he need 200mm DU Armor on his turret ring which is able to defeat 300mm Armor and the Most 20-30mm projectiles from Auto canons. But that's for a Balance reason. I mean it's like when you know the Video with the Bradley and T90, the Auto canons are able to damage anything on the Outside but not on the Inside like on the T90M and the Bradley fired only with 115mm penetration rounds at the T90M in the Ukraine. Now think about an 30mm or 40mm russian Auto canon wich is able to penetrate with Apfsds over 300mm+.
@@fernandojohnsen7639The Abrams was built to flood places like the fulda gap quickly and high manuver warfare. Ukraine has for a long time bogged down to almost to WW1 western front static warfare. Places where a slower heavily armored vehicle would be more effective were it not for the proliferation of drones. So a modern Mark V with a Jammer would be very effective (not a cobbled together "turtle tank")
The strength that comes with the 50 cal isn’t from its anti-air capabilities (I’d like to see a guy average 3-4 aircraft a match with the 50 cal on a tank), but rather the ability to detrack a tank that’s poking his tracks out like a goofball, or attempting to Flank you in the open. (unless you’re facing helicopters, and tons of lightly armored vehicles) which doesn’t happen until ranks V-VIII. At Top Tier most lightly armored things are immune anyway. Because you can down a Heli, or Aircraft with an MG3/MG42 curiously enough too. The 50 cal isn’t unique in its AA capabilities. If that were the case why isn’t the DSHK the biggest issue? It’s better at AA. The 50 Cal is good because it has enough ammo to break tracks. But so can 20mm tanks like the AMX-30-AMX-40. So it’s not a unique experience, just universal. IMO the 50 cal is overblown. Not that many people use it well anyway. Aiming at planes you can’t down/wont hit gives away your position. And I’ve taken down tons of tanks via this. Most decent roof mounted/coax MGs can damage planes/take them down under some circumstances. But not all can break tracks, or barrels (not even the 50 cal can bust a barrel). It isn’t the best, just common. It’s not an AA god, just better than the average. If 1 50 cal was that effective, then why do people choose to play the P-51D over the C because more gun? Why didn’t people just fly planes that in game quite literally have 1 50 cal more? We should see a spike in F2A buffalos, and early P-40s. But those aircraft aren’t liked when it comes to damage.
There's are a myriad of issues the Abrams has, although its still not a bad tank - mainly the players. However there are some bug reports that were accepted and not implemented yet. This includes the turret ring being changed to volumetric (~250 mm), fixing a gap in the turret ring which allows spall to come through and the hydraulic pump being incorrect (suppose to be in the engine, the one modeled is the reservoir). Though with the pump in general, knocking it out shouldn't automatically shut down both horizontal and vertical turret drives. The whole point of the reservoir is to provide hydraulic fluid for the turret to still move.
I played non-premium US tech tree since 2014, and only in the last month switching to Japan. Even at 9.3, its clear that the US is intentionally underperforming. Its laughable that light scout recon vehicles like the type 16 in all forms can pen near 500 and the base M1 ABRAMS at 9/4 can BARELY penetrate 400.
Not gunna lie when he mentioned .50cal can now overheat.... i didnt know this was even a thing for any nations mg. Cant even remeber seeing an mg overheat... unless overheating just breaks your mg to red. Had like 3 times that happen but otherwise ive spammed them to hell no issue.
it just forces a reload, without increasing the ammo in the belt. it is a nice addition since machine guns irl can overheat and jam and thus people have to use them in bursts and not full auto fire
For me the wolfpack is pretty good, ik he has no depression, but for the preview and for the times i die for it, its a pretty good tank, and If the player is good the tank can be pretty annoying. Tell me if im wrong, i never used him, but he's really good for me
@@salt_of_souls Well it depends on ones playstyle, the wolfpack is most similar to the 2s25m in the ussr tech tree with similar all round stats, I personally bring the wolfpack to 11.3 and I do extremely well in it because you can work with the round even at top tier. I have yet to unlock the hstvl but that's what I'm aiming for.
Imho the .50 nerf is actually a good thing, if you fire 200 rounds straight, you will just transform a fantastic MG into an expensive smoothbore potato launcher. Short but accurate bursts are actually way more effective
IDK what hill on [Conquest #3] Campania you're talking about because that map is a city between the spawns, end to end. I'm assuming your talking about Carpathians so yeah..... not the same map.
“Brooooo I can’t stand this change, how else can I shoot at planes” Let’s be real, there’s only been 1-3 times where we’ve been able to even shoot at planes with the roof 50s, let alone kill them with an AP only belt😂
5:17 I’ve been playing a lot of US 4.0 recently, and I can agree, the 75 doesn’t struggle with much in typical standoff distances, and that 50 cal can take out planes reliably. For gods sake the M4A2 is a better AA than the Skink or Duster, I had to just sit in my spawn the other day and wait for them to try and bomb me, and then I would shred them with the 75 and 50 cal.
Something to mention is how Gaijin completely ruined the A point on Frozen Pass removing all cover, and then didn't say anything about it, a change that no one asked for, and a shitty change at that.
I was in one of your games, you used the 2s38 and su25 and i am not very happy. But you did get alot of kills, i came 2nd right behind you. but 800 HUNDRED NUKES IS ALOT. love you man!
@blackpanther6655 those players exist in every nation. the abrams is absolutely underperforming as it is. the round it has can't pen russian ERA, despite being designed specifically for it. the turret ring is missing alot of armor and is way too easy to hit. the turret ring is also incorrectly connected to the power systems and shouldn't get knocked out unless the hydraulic pump is hit AND the backup reservoirs are depleted, there is absolutely no reason it should be knocked out when you have no engine power. also, still waiting for the trophy system on the SEPv2. and yes, it absolutely has it IRL as it was used to test the trophy before the SEPv3 was even in production, and when proven to work, it was installed overtime on all american SEPv2.
@mlgrocket again, you have Ariettes, you have LeClerks, Challengers which are even more worse modeled than the Abrams. Let us not talk about American dominance in CAS, Air and a large part of Naval
On the .50, the new AA was bonkers with no overheat. So this is kinda needed (as long as it isn't crazy bad like unupgraded hispanos). Sucks on the reduced ammo for the roof mounted. Is that a "balance" thing or a reality thing?
I do believe the Abrams is deliberately nerfed it’s the weakest mbt and I just don’t believe it plus the armour values on the challenger 2 are a lot higher irl two challenger 2’s in Kursk region proved it one with 6 mango rounds atgms etc and another was hit by 5 loiter drones atgms and was only taking out when it was abandoned and hit by artillery even then it took 3 rounds on top, Russian tanks are overly buffed the amount of t90m destroyed by one atgm drone even the 25mm from the Bradley’s took it them out even newer t80bvm have been took out by just one munition Russians are even abandoning all the bmp series of vehicles because there’s been reports that even 7.62mm AP rounds have been penning them they’re that under armoured
I feel like they changed the AGM-65s as well. They now aim for engines instead of turrets or weak spots. Like 2-3 weeks ago when i fired 6 Mavericks ive got like 4-5 kills, now like 2 and only hits.
Gaijin said US has been making pilots lives entirely too hard in ground battles and we must fix that... then boom the only good US anti-air gets nerfed LOL
Are we just now talking about this when the panther Sherman problem has existed for years. You tell me how panthers sit at a lower BR or same BR as a Sherman with the mantlet and front plate that still can’t be penned by T33 from a 90 MM gun. It’s ridiculous
sit down, its fine at its BR currently, sure round is weak but its fast and has good enough gun handling to make up for it do I wish it got better? yeah! but id rather it stay at 10.7
@arctan4547nah man the fact that it sits at the same br as t-80’s and 2a4’s is criminal. It has not a single decent advantage over its counterparts. The reload is better though I guess, until you go up a single br step.
I’ve had compania banned for multiple years now. I wish I could ban other maps but it’s just way too awful to play. Gaijin needs to give us more map bans
Roanoke autoloader suddenly became better? What an interesting change gaijin, wonder where the sekret dokuments for that change to happen (how about actually changing training ROF to combat or combat to training, i.e italy should get ROF similar to USSR which uses training data unlike italy, or some other nations with same weirdness)
The .50 Cal changes are hardly something to whinge about. Far bigger setbacks with some areas of US ground to worry about than a .50 which was already superior to most other sub 20mm's in the game and was frankly annoying hearing ppl glue the trigger down on.
As a non-American main, all I can say is: "Oh... no... What...? Oh that's... that's too bad... I'm gonna totally miss having my tracks get shot off or my pilot sniped by a sherman... This really is a very sad day, indeed..."
This is long standing man.. US tanks used to be amazing and were unstoppable.. Now, they are slower and not as good. I feel Japan top tier now is what US used to be - I am sure they will silently nerf this in the near future
I think the main reason why US tanks were so good was because of the players. When sales came in and people bought the Abrams, the win rate went down so much that most of the good USA players went to other countries or lower BRs (such as the M18 or Jumbo). Also, American tanks often had just a little above average mobility (apart from their light tanks), or just because of unfair nerfs to the USA's modifications (engine/transmission)
@ its one of the best, but not the best I'd argue. Tanks like the Leopards and T-80s are basically about the same (in terms of how they feel to play as), even though i can catch up and move at pace with a t-80 with a chally 2
@@datcheesecakeboi6745 not anymore - I think Leopards still good, but have you felt top tier Japan? they are insanely smooth and mobility is really good. I'd say much better than US by far, but it never used to be like that
It does not have it unfortunately....but the turret ring is to big and is lacking armor. Auto cannon shouldn't pen it. Other than that nothing is wrong with the Abrams, the players just suck relying on the armor. Anyone who does this in ANY vehicle at top teir is dead. And if you really are desperate for a another tank, the sep v3 from what I understand does have improved hull armor and such. And possibly could get it's a3 round. Just gotta wait. Just hope you can remove the trophy package or whatever.
@blackpanther6655 there’s multiple documents about it having an integrated spall liner, with the only documents saying it does have one goes purely off of “can I see it immediately in the crew compartment”
@@manuelarocho8131 Not true, you can reliably rely on armor in T series tanks. I usually play america but when I play russia I like to just rush straight to the enemy, It's very uncommon that I get killed. If I'm face to face with a tank in a brawl theres a 90% chance I survive. If I'm far away sniping back and forth with a guy theres a 90% chance I survive. Honestly doing anything in a russian tank I have a 90% chance to survive. Any shots that hit me bounce right off or just don't pen. Playing russia is literally easy mode compared to america. Meanwhile when playing the abrams you have to look around corners in 3rd person because if someone is there you will die. You have to scope out areas before moving, you have to stick to flanks because if an enemy is face to face with you, you will die. If someone is sniping you, you will die. Russia is the only nation in the game who's tanks are mostly unpennable from the front. Every other nation can be penned on the UFP and LFP.
Americans not being nerfed but stupid leopards are secretly buffed cause that stupid canadian premium leopard , its super anoying to play vs top tier germany
I can’t play tanks on WT … it’s so in balanced … between the invincible t series tank and the unstoppable leopard tank that shakes off every hit no matter were u hit it … and the squishy abrams I just can’t …same with the air battles at high tier …. In survivable … no matter what missiles kill u .. unless have a mountain between u and the missile … I only play navel now …because I don’t need a college degree to play it like all the other modes
Yeah it's not very fair. The T series tanks are unpennable except for the lfp and some small weakspots, so to kill one you really have to take a second to aim. Even then theres tank like the T-80? I think. That can shrug off side shots consistently, no other tank in the game will get non penned on the freaking side. And the leopards with their spall liners and crazy turrets, if you don't know where to aim you just won't do any damage. Meanwhile the abrams has neither, no spall liner no unpennable armor. Anywhere on the abrams is pennable. You don't get to shrug off rounds after round like the T series, you don't get to be lucky and survive shots like a leopard. You get the bottom of the barrel armor, and a mediocre gun. Not only that but it seems like any and every single shot that hits the abrams will disable its turret drive, for whatever reason. And people like to act like its a skill issue that US has the worse winrate at top tier. No dude its because the US has the worst top tier tank out of any of the big nations in the game. On top of that the abrams is a premium so all the new players are playing the worst top tier MBT, its going to drop the win rate a lot. Other nations don't have this problem, a new player can hop in a T series tank and shred because they just don't die immediately when they get shot.
Yes the americans were nerfed. Because their guns are the only ones that overheat. Somehow the MG42/32 do not have this issue, neither does the russian dshk. So yeah
Su-7 was nerfed, no more bomb computer stuff, but nooooo, the F-84F(i think, some F-84) can have that at 8.3, and the A-4E can have TV missile at 8.7... russian cas suffers
Once Russia gets humiliated or collapses, maybe things will go to a more, realistic depiction of our world. This is a Russian company, Russian board, Russian shareholders. They have families in Moscow and St Petersburg, yknow, windows and " bad food " and shit.
Alas poor 50 Cal we knew ye well
Realistic, but post-2001 US vehicles should get the ol' 300rd starter belt in a used Mark-19 can...for historical accuracy.
good riddance i say! i dont even think u should be able to use totally external mg's
Good riddance it only took the addition of an AA with 6 of them for gaijin to realise they’re broken
*a country that is not Russia or (Germany 1935-1945) creates good vehicle with a good feature* devs "NNNNOOOOOOOO!"
@@chrisreardon7185
50 Cals weren't broken
Abrams should have a smaller turret ring than what is actually modeled ingame and the turret ring is reinforced with 200mm of armor it should not be easily taken out by auto cannons in game
Source: dear left ball
Leak the docs one more damn time I dare you😂
No leak no believe
it has the protection, it doesnt protect the entire ring because its been enlarged for gameplay balance like all rings
@@imitradisv true about armor part, but yes, turret ring is too big, not sure if there are any armor sources for at least the base m1.
the only realistic change to the 50 cals they did was the ammo count. IRL the cans used only hold 100 rounds of 50 BMG when they're linked together, and 150 when they're not. the M2HB was designed specifically to slow down the time it takes to overheat. but of course, it's only the american MG that can overheat now and not the MG34 with double the firerate and is known for overheating quickly, or the russian 50 cal that has to be fired in short bursts due to overheating.
the MG34 is not nearly as effective in an AA role and neither is the soviet 50 with it's low ammo count
@@WPope so you completely missed my point...
@@WPopethe American 50 cal on tanks is ASS at anti air. All ap belt, awkward to aim, and a slow as hell fire rate
@@j_tha_pantheri mean its fine, but really thats not the point, the overheat mechanic should be applied universally
@@j_tha_panther I killed more aircraft with tank .50 cal than with all actual AA combined
Someone needs to test the hydraulic pump on the abrams, because it feels like regardless of where you get shot, it gets knocked out.
"Have US tanks been nerfed" (.50 cal having less ammo per clip) *Challenger 2 sitting in the corner sobbing*
And leclerc 😂😂
As a German main I do not know what a. 50 cal is.
@@nandim.artene3315
For upper Mid Tier, yes you do
In... 3 tanks? idk@@pugasaurusrex8253
@@nandim.artene3315You not have the PSO yet?
Im more concerned with my AIM-7Fs acting like AIM-7Ds or just straight up loosing connection.
Keeps happening to me too. I literally prefer AIM9Ls
My AIM7M's have been doing it too
I have this problem at times with the R-27R and R-23R, so maybe there's just a tracking bug with SARHs rn.
ye, all my aim-7 sometimes just go straight without a reason.
@@kommandantkillcode is because warthunder hamster dies, aka conection
God forbid they nerf things that have been broken for years instead of minor inconveniences to CAS.
The 2S38, Pantsir, Ka-52, Kh-38s, Leopard 2A7s, etc. etc. All were due for nerfs or BR bumps, but nope. Gotta nerf those pesky .50 cals.
for once I agree with the us players, there was no need to nerf the 50cals
literal non-issue instead of fixing the dime a dozen broken russian premiums
It's more than just American armor that got stealth nerfed by Gaijin. Air and Naval also suffer from hidden nerfs.
Us air is literally the second strongest overall stop the cope
@KauppaKomissaarisecond strongest behind what? US air overall is probably the best in the game
@@christopherchartier3017 top tier arguably ef2000 is better
@KauppaKomissaari Oh, at top tier planes specifically, not the whole tech tree- yeah I can see it. I wonder if they’ll add the super hornet next
@KauppaKomissaari f16a has the best flight model in game
Can the Abrams get it's accurate rounds it's using rounds from the 70's while Russia and it's allies are using rounds from the early to mid 00's
My brother what rounds
@@hunterparke9059he has gone insane
He meams the usa is missing its actual 105 rounds for some tanks, and the 75mm isnt correct at all for the rdlftt or hstvl, and the usa cant even have its modern tabks or a3 or a4 rounds. They also artificially nerf shit like the sepv2 by making the tusk package always on when irl its a package for any sep variant @hunterparke9059
Why they gave the round 100+ mm pen which they actually not penetrate 😂. I mean the M829A2 penetrates 547mm Armor inhame over 630. The M829A3 penetrate 705mm wich can penetrate most Russian Vehicles from the front BUT. then the DM53 has to pen over 720mm and the Armor Values for Chally 1,2,3. The Leclercs the Leo 2A6 and A5, the Type 10, Ariete the the Merkava MK4 Turret are not close correct or Balanced. It's like the Evolution of Armor doesn't got chanced specific like the Leo2A5 got a Prototype Armor Upgrade wich is fully Included in the 2A6 wich means his Hull Armor Stop 600mm Penetration from Apfsds without Armor Package like it's on the 2A7 we have 350-400mm Against apfsds. The Chally 2 early variants has after official Documents 500mm Defense against Apfsds (the first Variant), the later Variants started after the 2E with the 2F has over 900mm defense against apfsds cause of an upgrade with Siliciumcarbonat and Kevlar Wolframm Mixture. And But I am not sure about this a little Bit DU from 50mm sich increase the Armor up to 900mm from 500mm. The Leclerc has over 750mm Armor in His Hull in-game it's not even able to stop 500mm for Turret and Hull. The Type 10 has on his front tested over 700mm Armor in turret and Hull but is very vaunerble in the lower hill and the Turret ring like every tank is. There is a lot of nonsense compared in-game for Armor Values, all I say are official seen documents. In Ukrain especiall the Chally 2 got hit in the front from 6 3BM60 Rounds fired in Kursk, he got destroyed form 2 Ka52 Rocket's I think it was the Standart Ka52 Rocket in the drone footage it seems like. But he stopped before 3 of them hitting his Side Armor wich was protected with EA, Explosive Armor. When Gaijin would finally give us an Tank is able to defeat special round to rounds need to hit especially parts where it's able to penetrate.
Btw. Even the Abrams and I hate this trashcan cause it sucks in the most situations cause it's build for the Desert and Fire Support for Infantry like a Sherman. The Turret Armor from the M1A2 variants is over 1150mm against apfsds. Even his lower hull has to defeat 650mm apfsds and the Tusk side Armor is able to stop 3BM42 Round and any lower. But he has insane big weak spots like on his front the Turret ring and yes the Entire Part is vaunerble like a Metal plate from a Sherman against a Tiger long 88mm Projectile. I seen so many Abrams destroyed just from an RPg7 wich Hits the upper hull and the shrapnel ls just ripped threw the turret ring. And yes he need 200mm DU Armor on his turret ring which is able to defeat 300mm Armor and the Most 20-30mm projectiles from Auto canons. But that's for a Balance reason. I mean it's like when you know the Video with the Bradley and T90, the Auto canons are able to damage anything on the Outside but not on the Inside like on the T90M and the Bradley fired only with 115mm penetration rounds at the T90M in the Ukraine. Now think about an 30mm or 40mm russian Auto canon wich is able to penetrate with Apfsds over 300mm+.
@@fernandojohnsen7639The Abrams was built to flood places like the fulda gap quickly and high manuver warfare. Ukraine has for a long time bogged down to almost to WW1 western front static warfare. Places where a slower heavily armored vehicle would be more effective were it not for the proliferation of drones. So a modern Mark V with a Jammer would be very effective (not a cobbled together "turtle tank")
50 cal nerfing again and the guns sounds have gotten weird gaijin gettin stupid and greedy = bankrupt company ..
The 50 cal in ground sounds epic but in air it sounds bad
3:21 the tiger went on ozempic
The strength that comes with the 50 cal isn’t from its anti-air capabilities (I’d like to see a guy average 3-4 aircraft a match with the 50 cal on a tank), but rather the ability to detrack a tank that’s poking his tracks out like a goofball, or attempting to
Flank you in the open. (unless you’re facing helicopters, and tons of lightly armored vehicles) which doesn’t happen until ranks V-VIII. At Top Tier most lightly armored things are immune anyway.
Because you can down a Heli, or Aircraft with an MG3/MG42 curiously enough too. The 50 cal isn’t unique in its AA capabilities. If that were the case why isn’t the DSHK the biggest issue? It’s better at AA. The 50 Cal is good because it has enough ammo to break tracks. But so can 20mm tanks like the AMX-30-AMX-40. So it’s not a unique experience, just universal.
IMO the 50 cal is overblown. Not that many people use it well anyway. Aiming at planes you can’t down/wont hit gives away your position. And I’ve taken down tons of tanks via this. Most decent roof mounted/coax MGs can damage planes/take them down under some circumstances. But not all can break tracks, or barrels (not even the 50 cal can bust a barrel). It isn’t the best, just common. It’s not an AA god, just better than the average. If 1 50 cal was that effective, then why do people choose to play the P-51D over the C because more gun?
Why didn’t people just fly planes that in game quite literally have 1 50 cal more? We should see a spike in F2A buffalos, and early P-40s. But those aircraft aren’t liked when it comes to damage.
They better add 6.7 aa for usa if this is how .50s will be
that and xm246 with 35mm at 8.3 or 8.7. the t249 would also be cool.
I think Britain needs some aa more than USA
my brother in christ, atleast the British has 23mms and 20mm oerlikons@@jeremyclarkson412
@@jeremyclarkson412the USA only has a skink and 50 cals
@@jeremyclarkson412 i dont know you're blind or havent seen ZA35, Falcon, i think strela was added recently
There's are a myriad of issues the Abrams has, although its still not a bad tank - mainly the players.
However there are some bug reports that were accepted and not implemented yet. This includes the turret ring being changed to volumetric (~250 mm), fixing a gap in the turret ring which allows spall to come through and the hydraulic pump being incorrect (suppose to be in the engine, the one modeled is the reservoir). Though with the pump in general, knocking it out shouldn't automatically shut down both horizontal and vertical turret drives. The whole point of the reservoir is to provide hydraulic fluid for the turret to still move.
I played non-premium US tech tree since 2014, and only in the last month switching to Japan. Even at 9.3, its clear that the US is intentionally underperforming. Its laughable that light scout recon vehicles like the type 16 in all forms can pen near 500 and the base M1 ABRAMS at 9/4 can BARELY penetrate 400.
the type16 prototype has less pen then the abrams at only 330 vs 370 on the abrams with 105mm
the type16 has alot less armour and a longer reload time
Skill issue honestly
Not gunna lie when he mentioned .50cal can now overheat.... i didnt know this was even a thing for any nations mg. Cant even remeber seeing an mg overheat... unless overheating just breaks your mg to red. Had like 3 times that happen but otherwise ive spammed them to hell no issue.
it just forces a reload, without increasing the ammo in the belt. it is a nice addition since machine guns irl can overheat and jam and thus people have to use them in bursts and not full auto fire
What’s interesting is that the irl 50 cal takes a very long time to overheat.
It would be good if they also added overheating to other nations guns like the MG42 and Dyskha @@pilotteacher4527
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY WOLFPAAAAAAAAACK
For me the wolfpack is pretty good, ik he has no depression, but for the preview and for the times i die for it, its a pretty good tank, and If the player is good the tank can be pretty annoying. Tell me if im wrong, i never used him, but he's really good for me
Amazing
3gen thermal with all crew make it even more amazing @@salt_of_souls
@@salt_of_souls The wolfpack has a bunch of gun depression when you are using the variable suspension.
@petarbozinovski6606 damn, so... Hmmmm, is It wrong If i think that thing should be at 10.7? And the spookston mobile at 10.0?
@@salt_of_souls Well it depends on ones playstyle, the wolfpack is most similar to the 2s25m in the ussr tech tree with similar all round stats, I personally bring the wolfpack to 11.3 and I do extremely well in it because you can work with the round even at top tier. I have yet to unlock the hstvl but that's what I'm aiming for.
I'd like to see account creation date added to the profile as well to show the dedication, maybe even a timeline of milestones and graphics
hell no it would show myy like 2-3 year long break i did from the grind XD
You confused Campania for Carpathians, ain't no hill on Campania, it's the Italian map with a city in the middle.
Thank god they finally fixed the mbt-70 20mm ammo bug. That was so annoying.
5:18 - I think Spookston said it best: The M3... is all you need ;)
14:29 Campania has no hill, Campania is the map with the Italian city in the middle
Imho the .50 nerf is actually a good thing, if you fire 200 rounds straight, you will just transform a fantastic MG into an expensive smoothbore potato launcher.
Short but accurate bursts are actually way more effective
Finally i can get into matches quicker with Naval 😩
IDK what hill on [Conquest #3] Campania you're talking about because that map is a city between the spawns, end to end. I'm assuming your talking about Carpathians so yeah..... not the same map.
“Brooooo I can’t stand this change, how else can I shoot at planes”
Let’s be real, there’s only been 1-3 times where we’ve been able to even shoot at planes with the roof 50s, let alone kill them with an AP only belt😂
5:17 I’ve been playing a lot of US 4.0 recently, and I can agree, the 75 doesn’t struggle with much in typical standoff distances, and that 50 cal can take out planes reliably.
For gods sake the M4A2 is a better AA than the Skink or Duster, I had to just sit in my spawn the other day and wait for them to try and bomb me, and then I would shred them with the 75 and 50 cal.
Something to mention is how Gaijin completely ruined the A point on Frozen Pass removing all cover, and then didn't say anything about it, a change that no one asked for, and a shitty change at that.
I was in one of your games, you used the 2s38 and su25 and i am not very happy. But you did get alot of kills, i came 2nd right behind you. but 800 HUNDRED NUKES IS ALOT. love you man!
0:00 yapping session starts
gajin, you are aware the abrams WAS ALREADY under preforming AND YOU STILL NERFED IT?
the US players were and still are underperforming not the tank lol
Half of the Italin tech tree is underpreforming and they still nerf it. American players are some of the worst I have ever seen in this game.
@blackpanther6655 those players exist in every nation. the abrams is absolutely underperforming as it is. the round it has can't pen russian ERA, despite being designed specifically for it. the turret ring is missing alot of armor and is way too easy to hit. the turret ring is also incorrectly connected to the power systems and shouldn't get knocked out unless the hydraulic pump is hit AND the backup reservoirs are depleted, there is absolutely no reason it should be knocked out when you have no engine power.
also, still waiting for the trophy system on the SEPv2. and yes, it absolutely has it IRL as it was used to test the trophy before the SEPv3 was even in production, and when proven to work, it was installed overtime on all american SEPv2.
@mlgrocket again, you have Ariettes, you have LeClerks, Challengers which are even more worse modeled than the Abrams. Let us not talk about American dominance in CAS, Air and a large part of Naval
''underperforming'' fym 😭
On the .50, the new AA was bonkers with no overheat. So this is kinda needed (as long as it isn't crazy bad like unupgraded hispanos).
Sucks on the reduced ammo for the roof mounted. Is that a "balance" thing or a reality thing?
After the last battlepass its break time for me, kinda glad this BP is such a "well its there"
Man I love when they remove a vehicles only good points
I do believe the Abrams is deliberately nerfed it’s the weakest mbt and I just don’t believe it plus the armour values on the challenger 2 are a lot higher irl two challenger 2’s in Kursk region proved it one with 6 mango rounds atgms etc and another was hit by 5 loiter drones atgms and was only taking out when it was abandoned and hit by artillery even then it took 3 rounds on top, Russian tanks are overly buffed the amount of t90m destroyed by one atgm drone even the 25mm from the Bradley’s took it them out even newer t80bvm have been took out by just one munition Russians are even abandoning all the bmp series of vehicles because there’s been reports that even 7.62mm AP rounds have been penning them they’re that under armoured
And American 50 cals should have more penetration than 32 or whatever. The rauffoss round can penetrate 50mm of RHA at 90 degrees
It’s not uncommon for any Us vehicle to get nerfed…..
I feel like they changed the AGM-65s as well. They now aim for engines instead of turrets or weak spots. Like 2-3 weeks ago when i fired 6 Mavericks ive got like 4-5 kills, now like 2 and only hits.
You too? I thought it was only me bruh
@Still_Water-w6q yeah, we are being rammed by snail
its ok, they just want to put the American tanks around the same level as the American main's brains, so they can easily comprehend them.
Gaijin said US has been making pilots lives entirely too hard in ground battles and we must fix that... then boom the only good US anti-air gets nerfed LOL
So with the abrms nerf that wasn't needed. I am guessing it's never getting the DUI armor?
Are we just now talking about this when the panther Sherman problem has existed for years. You tell me how panthers sit at a lower BR or same BR as a Sherman with the mantlet and front plate that still can’t be penned by T33 from a 90 MM gun. It’s ridiculous
The chieftain needs a buff it is far too slow
The 10.7 Abrams not getting Dm33 is pathetic
sit down, its fine at its BR currently, sure round is weak but its fast and has good enough gun handling to make up for it
do I wish it got better? yeah! but id rather it stay at 10.7
@arctan4547nah man the fact that it sits at the same br as t-80’s and 2a4’s is criminal. It has not a single decent advantage over its counterparts. The reload is better though I guess, until you go up a single br step.
@arctan4547Its crap for 10.7
Thx mate!
Gaijin: Lets Give Russia another Tank, Light tank, Spaa, and premium!!!
Also Gaijin: Nerf every nation
I wouldnt be suprised.
War thunder should add the sergeant stout
I’ve had compania banned for multiple years now. I wish I could ban other maps but it’s just way too awful to play. Gaijin needs to give us more map bans
Roanoke autoloader suddenly became better? What an interesting change gaijin, wonder where the sekret dokuments for that change to happen (how about actually changing training ROF to combat or combat to training, i.e italy should get ROF similar to USSR which uses training data unlike italy, or some other nations with same weirdness)
The boat is 80 years old, I could go and get builders plans from the archives if I wanted to my friend.
The .50 Cal changes are hardly something to whinge about. Far bigger setbacks with some areas of US ground to worry about than a .50 which was already superior to most other sub 20mm's in the game and was frankly annoying hearing ppl glue the trigger down on.
As a non-American main, all I can say is: "Oh... no... What...? Oh that's... that's too bad... I'm gonna totally miss having my tracks get shot off or my pilot sniped by a sherman... This really is a very sad day, indeed..."
German 50 CAL: 👁👄👁
It sure feels like it bc when I play us tanks I hate it compared alot other countries
Short answer. Yes
This is long standing man.. US tanks used to be amazing and were unstoppable.. Now, they are slower and not as good. I feel Japan top tier now is what US used to be - I am sure they will silently nerf this in the near future
I think the main reason why US tanks were so good was because of the players. When sales came in and people bought the Abrams, the win rate went down so much that most of the good USA players went to other countries or lower BRs (such as the M18 or Jumbo).
Also, American tanks often had just a little above average mobility (apart from their light tanks), or just because of unfair nerfs to the USA's modifications (engine/transmission)
@@Literally_a_burger the US still has the best mobility at top tier cope
@ its one of the best, but not the best I'd argue. Tanks like the Leopards and T-80s are basically about the same (in terms of how they feel to play as), even though i can catch up and move at pace with a t-80 with a chally 2
@@datcheesecakeboi6745 not anymore - I think Leopards still good, but have you felt top tier Japan? they are insanely smooth and mobility is really good. I'd say much better than US by far, but it never used to be like that
@deandevilliers2799 If you ignore the gen 1 thermals and complete lack of armour and I'm pretty sure abrams is faster
Here come the leakes
Still faster than Britain, next excuse?
You guys do know that at least half of the bad players you're bashing on are bot player accounts, right?
Oh course they have
Maybe give the abrams spalliner which it actually has irl !?
0 proof of it having it lol
It does not have it unfortunately....but the turret ring is to big and is lacking armor. Auto cannon shouldn't pen it. Other than that nothing is wrong with the Abrams, the players just suck relying on the armor. Anyone who does this in ANY vehicle at top teir is dead.
And if you really are desperate for a another tank, the sep v3 from what I understand does have improved hull armor and such. And possibly could get it's a3 round. Just gotta wait. Just hope you can remove the trophy package or whatever.
The Abrams doesn't have spalliner, even Spookston already debunked this information.
@blackpanther6655 there’s multiple documents about it having an integrated spall liner, with the only documents saying it does have one goes purely off of “can I see it immediately in the crew compartment”
@@manuelarocho8131 Not true, you can reliably rely on armor in T series tanks.
I usually play america but when I play russia I like to just rush straight to the enemy, It's very uncommon that I get killed. If I'm face to face with a tank in a brawl theres a 90% chance I survive. If I'm far away sniping back and forth with a guy theres a 90% chance I survive. Honestly doing anything in a russian tank I have a 90% chance to survive. Any shots that hit me bounce right off or just don't pen. Playing russia is literally easy mode compared to america.
Meanwhile when playing the abrams you have to look around corners in 3rd person because if someone is there you will die. You have to scope out areas before moving, you have to stick to flanks because if an enemy is face to face with you, you will die. If someone is sniping you, you will die.
Russia is the only nation in the game who's tanks are mostly unpennable from the front. Every other nation can be penned on the UFP and LFP.
50 Cal is best at gun
they def have...
Naw, Americans themselves were nerfed by leaded fuels.
Americans not being nerfed but stupid leopards are secretly buffed cause that stupid canadian premium leopard , its super anoying to play vs top tier germany
Crying Amrikanski
I think its time to stop giving so much of my money to them.
Dude the fact 3bm42 can hit my track and disable my horizontal is unreal
naaah snail give abrum 4sec reload
oh no....... anyway
Spawncampaina
Butthurt russian company tbh.
Cope and Cry American Russia is winning the war
Thanks god i didn’t buy abrams
Hilarious title…..US tanks have always been nerfed in terms of real world performance……..Russian game FFS, work it out
they havent been tho, the abrams isnt some god tank, its one of the oldest tanks still in service, and the modern varients are somehow worse
I wonder why Abrams crucified t-72s and t-80s in real life in the 90s, yet suck nowadays.
50 cals are like lasers... too op
I slurp cas tears for breakfast
@@aidanhart6419 ah yes because cas were the only thing to die to 50cals not the hundreds of tanks with not enough armour to stop 50cals
I can’t play tanks on WT … it’s so in balanced … between the invincible t series tank and the unstoppable leopard tank that shakes off every hit no matter were u hit it … and the squishy abrams I just can’t …same with the air battles at high tier …. In survivable … no matter what missiles kill u .. unless have a mountain between u and the missile … I only play navel now …because I don’t need a college degree to play it like all the other modes
Yeah it's not very fair. The T series tanks are unpennable except for the lfp and some small weakspots, so to kill one you really have to take a second to aim. Even then theres tank like the T-80? I think. That can shrug off side shots consistently, no other tank in the game will get non penned on the freaking side.
And the leopards with their spall liners and crazy turrets, if you don't know where to aim you just won't do any damage.
Meanwhile the abrams has neither, no spall liner no unpennable armor. Anywhere on the abrams is pennable. You don't get to shrug off rounds after round like the T series, you don't get to be lucky and survive shots like a leopard. You get the bottom of the barrel armor, and a mediocre gun. Not only that but it seems like any and every single shot that hits the abrams will disable its turret drive, for whatever reason. And people like to act like its a skill issue that US has the worse winrate at top tier. No dude its because the US has the worst top tier tank out of any of the big nations in the game. On top of that the abrams is a premium so all the new players are playing the worst top tier MBT, its going to drop the win rate a lot. Other nations don't have this problem, a new player can hop in a T series tank and shred because they just don't die immediately when they get shot.
@@S1epsM1 Abarms also gets taken out by a 1k FPV drone 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes the americans were nerfed.
Because their guns are the only ones that overheat.
Somehow the MG42/32 do not have this issue, neither does the russian dshk. So yeah
Ita time for it. Gj from Gajin
Spawn campers should get a 7 day ban
700 year ban, make them learn
Also i was just playing the F-86 A5 Sabre and the spread for the .50 CAL was way more i kinda like it but its debatable
Zsu nerf im here for.
Player base thats all
Aa long as other nations' vehicles get balanced instead of USA getting shafted alone
Su-7 was nerfed, no more bomb computer stuff, but nooooo, the F-84F(i think, some F-84) can have that at 8.3, and the A-4E can have TV missile at 8.7... russian cas suffers
Once Russia gets humiliated or collapses, maybe things will go to a more, realistic depiction of our world. This is a Russian company, Russian board, Russian shareholders. They have families in Moscow and St Petersburg, yknow, windows and " bad food " and shit.
Bro lives in a world of his own fantasies lmao
Russia is winning the war in Ukraine cope and cry all the Western tanks are not wonder weapons and they burn even better than Russian tanks
how about they start with servers that aren't absolute dogshit.