The two playing together usually causes a phase shift, which is when the waves partially cancel each other leaving you with a tinney sound. Good call on the "drape" method, I like that.
I've loved my Roland R44 for a long long time now, it has never failed me... but damn the size is appealing. I'm so sick of carrying so many different bags to a wedding. I think you just sold me on this!
I'm looking for a way to record a backup from the toast mic at the reception. Right now I connect a Tascam DR-40 to the DJ soundboard (dual record) and drape a lav mic with Zoom H1 over the speaker (great tip Kriag) I have so many weddings where the DJ's mic cuts out during the toasts, bad battery, too far away, poor signal, someone's pace maker etc... my recordings are bad now too since all the sound was coming from his mic. So now i also attach a Zoom H1 to his wireless mic with a little strap. It really makes the mic big and not easy to hold and I have to use the wind cover (which barely fits) or the breathing is horrible and the B's & P's peak. The DJ's don't like it because now they have to hold this mic that's too big. BUT, this has saved my ass 4 TIMES this year! Get a smaller recorder? Setup a shotgun mic on the head table, unless they walk around.
I saw your DR-10L review and bought one (already liking my Tascam DR-60 beast). The day after I got it, it saved a weeding ceremony video (as my other lav somehow changed channel cos it was wireless). Thanks a million. In fact, today I used the DR-10L - just cos it's so super-quick to use. Blessings...
Some one please help! NOBODY on all of RUclips that I could find gives the information i need for recording toast audio at a wedding. If I buy a Tascam DR-10X and an Attenuator: 1. What cord do I need 2. Where do I plug it in 3. And how do I make sure I'm plugging it into the right spot?! I've been trying to figure this out for soooo long. I have no clue how to work XLR or anything audio other than Lav mics and on camera Rode Mics. Please just give me the links to what I need to buy and why :)))))
I hate watching youtube videos that always end the same way. I don't like when my time is wasted so I don't want to waste yours! I'm making it easier to watch the next video.
Very thorough review, thanks for that! I've heard about problems with the screw lock on the mic jack. Have you had this problem? Some are saying it will not stay locked in after normal use.
You may have convinced me to switch. Ive been rockin the zoom h6 for a while now And still dont think i have ever used the audio from it at a wedding since ive had a backup that turned out better. Very frustrating
Always quality content! I'm filming a movie starting June 15th. We'll be looking for a couple locations in New York including a cool apartment and a lounge if you have any suggestions or would like to come out. We'll be doing a weekly youtube video for the making of the movie.
I'm interested to know how you would mic up for the ceremony. In particular I would like to know how people mic up a female celebrant wearing a dress in the event that there is no out put on the P.A system or as a back up.
glad you have a wireless microphone receiver to plug into. In Wisconsin we get to deal with $250 dollar karaoke machines for audio sources. Id like to see Kraig deal with that.
Great stuff as always, but just to say that you're heavily reliant on the DJ/venue's audio with this setup. I've had at least 10 occasions over the years where the microphone/pa system has been dropping out or hasn't been properly tested, and makes for horrible audio. I ALWAYS have backup lapel mics on the speakers now :)
Unless the band is fully acoustic, all it would pick up is drums that are way too loud plus whatever came out of the speakers after bouncing around the room. What do you need band music for anyway? You won't be using it for your edit. Hopefully.
I've got a Tascam DR-10L, with a 1/8" mini TRS jack for audio input, which I plug my lav mic into. If I wanted to pull audio from a DJ's soundboard, what type of cable would I need?
Hans Behnke You would need a bunch of cables depending on the output slot the DJ soundboard/mixer has. 1/4 to 1/4, RCA to 1/4, XLR to 1/4 or XLR (female) to XLR (male). Kraig Adams has another in depth video explaining all of these.
I was going to buy the Tascam DR-10L, but heard there was a defect with them and the mic attachment. Apparently, the lav mic doesn't stay connect properly to the recorder and comes loose/out sometimes when recording. Has this happened to you or have you heard about this?
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The two playing together usually causes a phase shift, which is when the waves partially cancel each other leaving you with a tinney sound. Good call on the "drape" method, I like that.
I've loved my Roland R44 for a long long time now, it has never failed me... but damn the size is appealing. I'm so sick of carrying so many different bags to a wedding. I think you just sold me on this!
Your videos are soo helpful in so many ways. Thank you for showing real world examples in your explanation.
I've just bought it 3 days ago. Thanks for settings. Sad to hear about quitting this channel. Same things about gear on another YT?
just got my Tascam DR-10L this week, gonna try it out at a wedding tomorrow :)
id be curious to know what settings you use for draping the mic over a speaker.
Any update?
Probably the same as 3:00 - it’s all auto level
TY for making audio capturing seem not so daunting of a task. Lot's of ways to get basically the same result, do it the most simple way.
You're damn straight son
Have you ever considered using an external recorder for your on camera audio, it are the Sony preamps good enough?
I'm looking for a way to record a backup from the toast mic at the reception. Right now I connect a Tascam DR-40 to the DJ soundboard (dual record) and drape a lav mic with Zoom H1 over the speaker (great tip Kriag) I have so many weddings where the DJ's mic cuts out during the toasts, bad battery, too far away, poor signal, someone's pace maker etc... my recordings are bad now too since all the sound was coming from his mic. So now i also attach a Zoom H1 to his wireless mic with a little strap. It really makes the mic big and not easy to hold and I have to use the wind cover (which barely fits) or the breathing is horrible and the B's & P's peak. The DJ's don't like it because now they have to hold this mic that's too big. BUT, this has saved my ass 4 TIMES this year! Get a smaller recorder? Setup a shotgun mic on the head table, unless they walk around.
Thanks for the video. What are your setting for the drape mic?
Update?
Nice video. I like the experience you share with us. I thought about buying the RodeLink. Do you have any experience with that?
I saw your DR-10L review and bought one (already liking my Tascam DR-60 beast). The day after I got it, it saved a weeding ceremony video (as my other lav somehow changed channel cos it was wireless). Thanks a million.
In fact, today I used the DR-10L - just cos it's so super-quick to use. Blessings...
Some one please help! NOBODY on all of RUclips that I could find gives the information i need for recording toast audio at a wedding. If I buy a Tascam DR-10X and an Attenuator:
1. What cord do I need
2. Where do I plug it in
3. And how do I make sure I'm plugging it into the right spot?!
I've been trying to figure this out for soooo long. I have no clue how to work XLR or anything audio other than Lav mics and on camera Rode Mics. Please just give me the links to what I need to buy and why :)))))
This is awesome! I am definitely going to go for this!
You should make a list or video on what's in that bag.
your little purse. solid 5/10
Great content as always! Definitely considering moving over to this audio system. Why so sudden on the ending tho?
Agree. Stop saving my time!!
I hate watching youtube videos that always end the same way. I don't like when my time is wasted so I don't want to waste yours! I'm making it easier to watch the next video.
Can you give me your quick thoughts on the Tascam vs the new zoom f1?
at the present with is the best device for record from the dj?
Very thorough review, thanks for that! I've heard about problems with the screw lock on the mic jack. Have you had this problem? Some are saying it will not stay locked in after normal use.
You may have convinced me to switch. Ive been rockin the zoom h6 for a while now And still dont think i have ever used the audio from it at a wedding since ive had a backup that turned out better. Very frustrating
Would you use the same setting on the DR-10L?
Always quality content! I'm filming a movie starting June 15th. We'll be looking for a couple locations in New York including a cool apartment and a lounge if you have any suggestions or would like to come out. We'll be doing a weekly youtube video for the making of the movie.
Great info! Watched the vid twice.
0:01 This should have been a “what’s in my audio bag for weddings”?! 🎶 💼 👰 🤵 💒
Your kit site says you don't like new gen macbooks with usb-c, yet i see you updated
I'm interested to know how you would mic up for the ceremony. In particular I would like to know how people mic up a female celebrant wearing a dress in the event that there is no out put on the P.A system or as a back up.
I show them how small, hidden it can be and that a female team member will do it. 90% of my brides refuse to wear the mic. Just thought I'd share
glad you have a wireless microphone receiver to plug into. In Wisconsin we get to deal with $250 dollar karaoke machines for audio sources. Id like to see Kraig deal with that.
Started out with weddings like that. NEVER GOING BACK. I'm too fancy now
Wedding Film School takes a real wedding filmmaker to figure that one out. Your setup is too small and to easy. I need the challenge...
Great stuff as always, but just to say that you're heavily reliant on the DJ/venue's audio with this setup. I've had at least 10 occasions over the years where the microphone/pa system has been dropping out or hasn't been properly tested, and makes for horrible audio. I ALWAYS have backup lapel mics on the speakers now :)
do i need a cord for the tascam dr-10x for the music board?
What if you wanted to place a stereo mic in front of a band? Maybe still have an H1 for a situation like that?
Unless the band is fully acoustic, all it would pick up is drums that are way too loud plus whatever came out of the speakers after bouncing around the room. What do you need band music for anyway? You won't be using it for your edit. Hopefully.
good stuff. would you recommend the same settings when using the tascam with lavalier on person?
Pretty much all the same except making the mic gain mid and not low. I've done tests and the auto levels work very well.
Doesn't auto level disable mic gain?
what audio editing software do you use?
Can't I just connect this to wireless mic receiver with an XLR to 1/4?
Hi, what's the model of the adaptator plugged in the dr 10x please ?
What do you call that wire and that adapter you use to plug into the DJ's system? 1/4" something??
Omar Haro [Dual 1/4 to 1/4] connected to a [Female 1/4 to XLR] then connected to the Tascam DR10X.
I've got a Tascam DR-10L, with a 1/8" mini TRS jack for audio input, which I plug my lav mic into. If I wanted to pull audio from a DJ's soundboard, what type of cable would I need?
Hans Behnke You would need a bunch of cables depending on the output slot the DJ soundboard/mixer has.
1/4 to 1/4, RCA to 1/4, XLR to 1/4 or XLR (female) to XLR (male).
Kraig Adams has another in depth video explaining all of these.
Hi, the Tascam DR-10 L doesn't exist in Europe :'( It's too expensive for import...Do you know an alternative ?
Le Futé I think your version is the DR-10C
Yes it's the DR-10CS, but it's more expensive and without the microphone.
where do you get those transparent zipper bags.
Everything I use is always in my kit! The link is the description of every youtube video but here it is: www.kit.com/kraigadams
Nice info
Do you still stand by this method/kit for weddings?
id be curious to know what settings you use for draping the mic over a speaker. dr-10l???????????
Very useful
I was going to buy the Tascam DR-10L, but heard there was a defect with them and the mic attachment. Apparently, the lav mic doesn't stay connect properly to the recorder and comes loose/out sometimes when recording. Has this happened to you or have you heard about this?
Ryan, I've recently recorded 3 weedings, and a tonne of tutorials in the field. Absolutely NO issues with my little 10-L. I love it, it's bomb-proof.
Thank God you opened the zipper bag!
FINALLY
mic gain - low, auto level - off
Draping not the best
Way.
2017, bro. OG RUclips stuff.
really useful