DAREDEVIL: THE ELEKTRA SAGA - Exploring Miller & Janson's Ninja-Noir Tragedy

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @MattDraper
    @MattDraper  4 года назад +45

    Happy Darecember! Read the complete essay on Comic Book Herald: www.comicbookherald.com/daredevil-the-elektra-saga-exploring-a-ninja-noir-tragedy/

    • @2jebeal
      @2jebeal 4 года назад

      You are the best I would like to ask do you think one day you can do reviews of the boom studios power rangers comic books one day

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 4 года назад +1

      What about the Hobgoblin saga?

    • @2jebeal
      @2jebeal 4 года назад

      Or maybe Batman under the red Hood that be perfect for the next review just asking

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 4 года назад +1

      @@2jebeal or how about Batman the Cult?

    • @VomitPinata
      @VomitPinata 4 года назад

      Great video. Well written, thoughtful analysis & cool editing. It sent me straight to your channel's homepage & found the mix of comics and non-comic related movies very refreshing. There is a darker emotional thru-line to much of the stylistically varied material you cover & it gives your content a depth of focus some other channels lack. I don't know how i've slept on your channel for so long! Instant sub.

  • @TheTurbanator123
    @TheTurbanator123 4 года назад +192

    "Sweetheart you don't break into my house and talk to me about trust"

  • @MrPink-qf1xi
    @MrPink-qf1xi 4 года назад +146

    This is up for debate, but I would argue, Frank's work on Daredevil is the most consistent and greatest of his works.

    • @thegoat4238
      @thegoat4238 4 года назад +6

      How about Brian Michael Bendis is run on Daredevil?

    • @JusRed48
      @JusRed48 4 года назад +4

      If nothing else I think it's aged the best.

    • @johnnydi2203
      @johnnydi2203 3 года назад +14

      @@JusRed48 I was going to say something similar. This Daredevil run and Alan Moore's Swamp Thing are both still completely entertaining books to read. They've aged like wine.

    • @melancholyentertainment
      @melancholyentertainment 3 года назад +2

      Doesn't help that he's an absolute nutter lmao

    • @astroidmorchestra
      @astroidmorchestra 2 года назад

      Yes

  • @porassrivastava8242
    @porassrivastava8242 4 года назад +108

    Daredevil has legit the best runs. Every writer you ask what's their dream character to work on they always say Daredevil. The religious tones, the psychology of a vigilante bonded to his faith and driven by his depression is such a great setting to create the dark and impactful storylines. #savedaredevil

    • @johnnydi2203
      @johnnydi2203 3 года назад +7

      I love the contradictions of the character. By day he argues on behalf of the law, than goes out and breaks it every night. He wrestles with religion, as you mentioned. He makes love with beautiful people, but can't see them. Beautiful character.

  • @dimetrealexiou5633
    @dimetrealexiou5633 4 года назад +54

    I think Miller's best work is with Daredevil. This run showed he understood the potential of the comics medium like no one else. His page layouts are genius.

  • @SnapperChannel
    @SnapperChannel 4 года назад +81

    Darecember has begun and I can’t wait to see more.

  • @aec111100
    @aec111100 4 года назад +47

    When we needed him most he returned

  • @criticalrants
    @criticalrants 4 года назад +57

    I never realized how much material the Daredevil show adapted from this specific run until I saw this video. A great start to Darecember, I can’t wait to see what else is on the horizon!

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  4 года назад +18

      Thanks! There's definitely a lot. This run, Man Without Fear, and Born Again are sampled a lot for the show.

    • @someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779
      @someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779 4 года назад +10

      The entire first season is basically an adaptation of his Man Without Fear mini

  • @DAGDRUM53
    @DAGDRUM53 Год назад +5

    When scripting this arc Miller pitched Black Widow in the Elektra role and Marvel informed him he wasn't "going to kill the Black Widow."
    Even at this early stage Miller had to know creating a bombastic character like Elektra was a gift that would keep on giving. Marvel.

  • @crustymcgee6580
    @crustymcgee6580 4 года назад +26

    I loved all the Daredevil sagas, including Brian Michael Bendis'. Frank Miller's run elevated comics into something new and adult oriented. The illustration and inking were perfect complements to the writing.

  • @Ditto1610
    @Ditto1610 4 года назад +24

    This is going to be an amazing month for Daredevil's fans

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_02 4 года назад +17

    Back at it again with Darecember

  • @joshboy64
    @joshboy64 4 года назад +19

    ITS THE MOST... WONDERFUL TIME... OF THE YEARRRRRR

  • @Xehanort10
    @Xehanort10 4 года назад +71

    Daredevil and Elektra's relationship has always reminded me of Batman and pre Grant Morrison Talia Al Ghul. The lovers who can't be together because they're on different sides and have different moral codes and methods. I hate how Talia was retconned from a morally ambiguous character torn between her love for Bruce and her loyalty to her dad Ra's to pure evil. I also hate how Bruce and Talia's consensual sex that conceived Damian was retconned into her drugging and raping him.

    • @jagtech490
      @jagtech490 4 года назад +4

      Nah it made sense that talia went B!tch mode she was always on edge

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 4 года назад +1

      Yeah

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 3 года назад +3

      @@jagtech490 Only because her sister kept killing her and dumping her body in the Pit. All the resurrection drove her mad

    • @galactic85
      @galactic85 3 года назад

      I remember she drugged him but I thought they slept together consentually. I thought the drugs were just to ensure that she got pregnant.

  • @vincentfranklin17
    @vincentfranklin17 4 года назад +9

    Daredevil is my favorite Marvel hero!
    Happy Darecember, Matt!

  • @sebastienvondoom8615
    @sebastienvondoom8615 4 года назад +7

    Name a more iconic duo than Matt Draper and awesome comics

  • @chikish
    @chikish 4 года назад +7

    In my opinion, Daredevil #191 is one of the best single-issue stories ever told in comics. Before reading it I had never been so immersed and so captivated by a comic, I was virtually on the edge of my seat, and that's not hyperbole.
    Miller at his peak could do no wrong and he earned the right to make as many "All Star Batman and Robins" and "Holy Terrors" as he wants with stories like "Roulette". The guy is beyond good and evil.

  • @dead0ntime
    @dead0ntime 4 года назад +5

    Man the art is spectacular in this run.

  • @jamestrickingtonIII
    @jamestrickingtonIII 4 года назад +6

    This channel is highly underrated!

  • @bigtimespidey38
    @bigtimespidey38 Год назад +1

    12:36 Dammit! Now I can’t unsee it!

  • @AvengerVincent
    @AvengerVincent 4 года назад +12

    How perfect this came out the same day as Zdarskys DD 25

  • @davidgeralao1284
    @davidgeralao1284 4 года назад +10

    Looking at these pages’ drawings, and wow... Elodie Yung was well-cast. She captured Elektra’s insanity and vulnerability. Plus, they look the same!

  • @ReneIsSpawn
    @ReneIsSpawn 4 года назад +3

    I never knew Darecember was thing, now I can look forward to this every year!!!!

  • @eduardoruiz7600
    @eduardoruiz7600 4 года назад +4

    I was gonna save this video til I read all of Miller’s Daredevil run (just recently picked up all the trades) but I couldn’t resist. I’m thinking it’ll just make me appreciate the run even more when I finish it all

  • @yurineri2227
    @yurineri2227 4 года назад +10

    So manga also influenced daredevil uh, I guess Matt Murdock really has the power of god and anime on his side.

  • @zacharycollins9485
    @zacharycollins9485 4 года назад +5

    Miller's Born Again is incredibly amazing, also. 🤘😎

  • @contrabandresearch8409
    @contrabandresearch8409 4 года назад +23

    There should be more Ninja-Noir.

  • @ImpulseCase99
    @ImpulseCase99 4 года назад +3

    I’m so happy you are doing Darecember again! Great job as always!

  • @Thepopcornator
    @Thepopcornator 4 года назад +13

    "A guilt-ridden man likely to indulge in self-destruction via superheroism"... sounds pretty Spider-man-like to me haha.

  • @dkplaysallday7955
    @dkplaysallday7955 4 года назад +3

    Love that one of my favorite content creators so happens to be a huge fan of my favorite character as well.

  • @zemox2534
    @zemox2534 4 года назад +2

    I cannot wait to see your DD content for the rest of December. Your videos on Matt and his stories are always the best.

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 4 года назад +1

      I hope he does the Hobgoblin saga, Batman the Cult and Penguin: Pain and Prejudice

  • @Hibbs4Prez
    @Hibbs4Prez 4 года назад +15

    Daredevil would have disappeared from the comic book scene if Frank Miller hadn't come around.

  • @DrJay-iy8rv
    @DrJay-iy8rv 4 года назад +4

    Can’t wait for that Chip Zdarsky Run

  • @falcondave9755
    @falcondave9755 4 года назад +1

    Great Video Matt, Love the Miller run. Fantastic start to Darecember

  • @franzvalmonte
    @franzvalmonte 4 года назад

    Daredevil is my favorite too! I AM SO EXCITED FOR THE DARECEMBER VIDEOS!

  • @thatnerdyguy8701
    @thatnerdyguy8701 4 года назад +2

    Elektra is truly one of the most underrated marvel characters.

  • @mobyt.3900
    @mobyt.3900 4 года назад +3

    great video! I hope you'll also be revisiting "God and Country" or "Apocalypse" as well, those were good runs also.

  • @jozefserf2024
    @jozefserf2024 3 месяца назад

    This is as good a summing up as we're likely to see.
    10:47 Elektra Lives Again is very good despite the somewhat messy art. Elektra Assasin is off the scale brilliant.

  • @dr.s8972
    @dr.s8972 4 года назад +12

    11:41 DAMN you did not have to go that hard on Frank and his hookers

    • @nikomiller
      @nikomiller 4 года назад +1

      I feel like every Frank Miller female character that isn't Elektra or Martha Washington is a prostitute...

    • @samuraijacques952
      @samuraijacques952 4 года назад +2

      The man loves noir and the tropes therein

    • @JusRed48
      @JusRed48 4 года назад

      The funny thing is even in Miller's Man Without Fear, his version of Elektra there kind of goes into hyper-Miller prostitute-ish territory.

  • @thejetshowlive
    @thejetshowlive 3 года назад

    BRAAAAAVOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! This was exquisite! Thank you, thank you very much.

  • @GreenTengu97
    @GreenTengu97 4 года назад

    Been waiting all year for this since last time.

  • @manicmanicmanicmanic5082
    @manicmanicmanicmanic5082 4 года назад +1

    DARECEMBER IS BACK BABYYYYYYYYYY
    THE MOST WONDERFUL TIME OF THE YEAR
    seriously, thank you for this. DD has always been my fave comic character so these are a massive treat

  • @Smellmonger
    @Smellmonger 4 года назад

    Also, by God, How is your narration so excellent?!?!

  • @mikekingtaberna8917
    @mikekingtaberna8917 4 года назад

    I love daredevil because of your introspective. very good essay ily keep it up.

  • @zombiekilldemon
    @zombiekilldemon 4 года назад

    Just found your channel a few days ago and love it! Please do Charles Soules Daredevil run. It gets overlooked.

  • @derekvillorente4334
    @derekvillorente4334 3 года назад

    Great rundown of this phenomenal series.

  • @rickytoddbotelho9555
    @rickytoddbotelho9555 4 года назад +1

    One of the best comic books of all time! The visionary who fashioned the way we view popular media ooh la la!😄

  • @thatonkgau5221
    @thatonkgau5221 3 года назад +3

    I would like to have a daredevil story where Matt Murdock gets a happy ending. Where he falls in love gets married and doesn't have his wife die or go insane and he and his wife have a happy life.

  • @JordanOrlando
    @JordanOrlando 4 года назад +3

    This is fantastic - great observations - but the only problem is you’re using artwork from one of he newer reprints, for which they’ve added all kinds of shading that isn’t in the originals (as Marvel and DC both do). I’ve got the original issues, which have the plain, flat coloring that was standard for the time, which is How Miller and Janson intended it to be seen.

  • @JamesSmith-kn1by
    @JamesSmith-kn1by 4 года назад +1

    Great job!!!!!! Dead mans hand arc in the future please I never finished it

  • @doraeguyakaneddie6586
    @doraeguyakaneddie6586 2 года назад +2

    It's like Peter and Gwen, If Gwen turned into a mercnary after Captain Stacy died

  • @ricosalvaje5802
    @ricosalvaje5802 4 года назад

    These are great videos. Im just getting into Daredevil comics and I'm really enjoying them.

  • @Nono-hk3is
    @Nono-hk3is 4 года назад

    Brilliant as always. Thank you!

  • @leofleitas6651
    @leofleitas6651 4 года назад

    Great video Matt.

  • @scoobers90
    @scoobers90 4 года назад

    I haven't read any of Miller's run besides Born Again and The Man Without Fear. I'm a slacker...Awesome video as always!

  • @RojoDawg31
    @RojoDawg31 4 года назад

    Great timing especially with the new DD that just came out.

  • @renatotapia1716
    @renatotapia1716 4 года назад

    thank you for this content, always looking forward to these videos :)

  • @howardem40
    @howardem40 4 года назад

    Great commentary.. enjoyed it.

  • @theartistknownaszack9234
    @theartistknownaszack9234 Год назад

    I got my Omnibus ordered and ready!

  • @TheSmart.1
    @TheSmart.1 4 года назад +1

    DARECEMBER!

  • @johncole015
    @johncole015 4 года назад

    I'm glad Frank Miller and Klaus Janson finally reunited on Dark Knight III.

  • @saint.bambino
    @saint.bambino 4 года назад

    great video!

  • @DylanFlo70
    @DylanFlo70 4 года назад

    Fucking LOVE Darecember. Amazing work!

  • @witchdoctorstrong3734
    @witchdoctorstrong3734 4 года назад +3

    Highkey, I've missed Matt's voice

  • @brycetheoddball
    @brycetheoddball 4 года назад +10

    Marvel got the rights back from Netflix we in business boys!

    • @brycetheoddball
      @brycetheoddball 4 года назад

      @Sean O’ Deli I trust the info I get from the fan movement #SaveDaredevil that they know their information and have done their research, but please continue to be an asshole.

    • @uncannydcmarvelous5732
      @uncannydcmarvelous5732 4 года назад +1

      @Sean O’ Deli That would be so much better than bringing in Maguire and Garfield for a Spiderverse, and Strange being MCU Peter's third unnecesary mentor.

  • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
    @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 4 года назад +4

    Bullseye is a really underrated villain

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 4 года назад +1

      Yeah along with the other Daredevil villains

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 4 года назад +2

      @@srstriker6420 exactly, one of the biggest issues I’ve had with DD, is how Fisk takes over every DD story, sure he’s DD’s best villain, but DD has so many other villains

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 4 года назад +1

      @@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 yeah like the Owl,Jester,Gladiator,Mr Fear and Stilt-man

    • @seandarbe2521
      @seandarbe2521 4 года назад

      A solid rogues gallery is part of being a great superhero, and Daredevil is fun classy Superhero.

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 4 года назад +1

      @@seandarbe2521 he’s a pretty superhero actually

  • @Bingbongbarn
    @Bingbongbarn 4 года назад

    Have liked the video, will come back and watch it when I've read the story
    Edit: I have now read the story, it was amazing and this video is equally amazing

  • @KamenSentaiMetalHero
    @KamenSentaiMetalHero 4 года назад +3

    This sounds incredibly similar to Batman: Mask of the Phantasm.

  • @sdlstr91
    @sdlstr91 4 года назад

    Matt’s still got it 😎

  • @jamesa.romano8500
    @jamesa.romano8500 Год назад +2

    That Frank Miller opposed calls for Elektra to be resurrected for years when comic book character deaths are almost taken for granted as a minor setback in-universe speaks to how personal this arc was for him, to the point that he tears up in interviews talking about it. I was way too young to be reading that comic book arc, but I did anyway - and it along with Killing Joke had this profound traumatic effect on me - it was just this gripping tearjerker to have Elektra see her moment of redemption by letting Foggy go, left alone to contemplate what she'll do next knowing that so defying the Kingpin is in itself basically a death sentence, only to be brutally and sadistically killed by a violent psychopath for extremely petty reasons (she had the gall to take Bullseye's job while he was IN JAIL). This was also the first time as a kid I had seen violence against women so graphically depicted. Like you knew when Wonder Woman or She Hulk or Rogue took a hit from a supervillain that while it wasn't a great experience they were basically okay. But the only way that Bullseye is able to one-up Elektra and kill her is by fighting dirty and punching her in the face full-force breaking her jaw. And the fact that she's not immediately fine afterward but is dazed and weak from the impact spoke to me that a man hitting a woman like that is wrong and F**d up (which I knew already but this drove it home and made it infinitely more clear). All this followed by her stumbling half-dead towards Matt's apartment to die in his arms which is both graphic and almost a humiliation ritual for her character in her final moments. So many layers

  • @GigaChadh976
    @GigaChadh976 4 года назад +1

    Marvel should use miller’s early work as their standard

  • @michaeldickens1019
    @michaeldickens1019 4 года назад +1

    Dude I need to know the name of this outro music

  • @dr.s8972
    @dr.s8972 4 года назад

    Matt, I am BEGGING you to help us push for Season 4. If we don't get something now for that show, I dont think we ever will.

  • @kylerpruitt1620
    @kylerpruitt1620 4 года назад +1

    Daredevil combined with Matt Draper? Perfection. Also in relations to the arc, I did not like the way the show handled Elektra or her death at all.

  • @jasper2572
    @jasper2572 4 года назад +1

    Please do an episode on Chip zdarsky run it's excellent.

    • @mariod1547
      @mariod1547 4 года назад +1

      Yeah it's really great

  • @dawwe8869
    @dawwe8869 4 года назад +1

    Niiice!

  • @theronmitchell3073
    @theronmitchell3073 4 года назад

    Miller has even referred to elektra's death at the hands of bullseye as a murder/rape with of the way he mocks her during the fight

  • @EsfingeCinza
    @EsfingeCinza 2 года назад

    Love how Elektra chances eye color more than she chances clouthing~

  • @ReverendDudeKyle
    @ReverendDudeKyle 4 года назад +2

    "Oof." -Elektra

  • @grantnewton4230
    @grantnewton4230 4 года назад +1

    No mas jazz?

  • @yucel8769
    @yucel8769 4 года назад

    Matt please don't forget the third part of your batman morisson story

  • @nwojunkie
    @nwojunkie 4 года назад

    so does Daredevil see things from 1st person or 3rd person in fights?

  • @mikejeter5162
    @mikejeter5162 4 года назад

    Seriously I really appreciate your page...you are so skilled and talented with your commentary. Peace and respect to you

  • @fattypneumonia
    @fattypneumonia 4 года назад

    hmm... you already covered nocenti/jrjr's run last year....
    ooooh, i hope you'll consider chichester/mcdaniels storylines.

  • @ComicBooksandVideoGameNerd96
    @ComicBooksandVideoGameNerd96 2 месяца назад

    Fun Fact the Foot from TMNT is a parody of the Hand

  • @jaredgarcia8638
    @jaredgarcia8638 4 года назад

    Will we see the rivaly explored between Daredevil and The Punisher?

  • @ShadowKnight-tr3xo
    @ShadowKnight-tr3xo 4 года назад

    Matt you should do a month for superman. In September ,call it Sup-tember.

  • @jackofallclaws6672
    @jackofallclaws6672 4 года назад +1

    Anyone else think Frank Miller’s Ronin might be a good topic for a video?

  • @Ashguy733
    @Ashguy733 4 года назад

    As a cosmic comic guy, you keep publishing videos like this and ill be forced to get on board with DD.

  • @psychicflora
    @psychicflora 4 года назад

    Yes, this became the defacto story for Daredevil along it's origin

  • @bobbyshewan4229
    @bobbyshewan4229 4 года назад

    My holiday is now perfect. I’ll be honest though. I’ve never been crazy for Elektra. Besides Catwoman with Batman and Black Cat with Spidey, I’ve never been crazy for superheroes dating. Maybe the show and the movie have turned me off a bit, but I’m optimistic going into this because, after all, it’s Frank fucking Miller.

  • @srstriker6420
    @srstriker6420 4 года назад

    12:12 like say does Superman need Lois Lane?

  • @Xehanort10
    @Xehanort10 4 года назад

    I'd say the 2 heroes who've gone through the most tragedy are Daredevil and Wolverine. Matt was blinded as a kid, his dad was killed by gangsters for not throwing a boxing match, Elektra and Karen were murdered by Bullseye, his life was utterly ruined by Kingpin in Born Again and so on. And Wolverine was born from an affair his mother Elizabeth Howlett had with Thomas Logan, John Howlett the man he thought was his dad was killed by Thomas after firing him and sending him and his son Dog away from the Howlett house after Dog tried to rape James/Wolverine's tutor Rose, he accidentally killed Rose while they were living at a mining colony while fighting with Dog, he was kidnapped, experimented on and tortured by the Weapon X scientists who bonded adamantium to his bones to turn him into a super soldier and they also put fake memories in his head so he couldn't remember his past, the mother of his son Daken was killed and Daken was cut out of her womb and raised as an assassin,he got the adamantium ripped from his bones by Magneto at one point and he was also tricked into killing his own children by the son of an evil man he'd killed.

  • @DzustComics
    @DzustComics 4 года назад

    Really excited for DAREcember returning. Any opinion on the current Zdarsky run?

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  4 года назад +2

      You'll just have to wait and see ...

    • @DzustComics
      @DzustComics 4 года назад

      @@MattDraper while I love the character too a lot of aspects of being a blind person aren't represented correctly, especially by the Netflix show. I have a high visual impairment and I know many blind people well. There's a few things I could tell you that might help you with future videos, but fair warning, I could ruin the show for you or at least you'll always be really distracted while watching it. 😈😂

  • @srstriker6420
    @srstriker6420 4 года назад

    What about the hobgoblin saga?

  • @franklinsoto3316
    @franklinsoto3316 3 года назад

    Hey Matt Drapes I created a comic book called: What if Elektra killed Bulleye I would like to send you the book but where exactly?

  • @brunnen1
    @brunnen1 4 года назад

    i loved the daredevil movie

  • @Smellmonger
    @Smellmonger 4 года назад +2

    This video hit the Bullseye ha Ha!... Hm.

  • @wolfchief7952
    @wolfchief7952 4 года назад +1

    Miller series made Daredevil.

  • @OomaGooma
    @OomaGooma 4 года назад

    Lol Elektra Nachos