You Got Me Yappin' About VRAINS Again

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024

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  • @k2thaizzale
    @k2thaizzale Месяц назад +35

    I've been slowly watching through every Yugioh anime (mostly. skipped season 0 and... that capsule monsters one.) but am only a little ways into 5Ds so I'm looking forward to coming back to this VOD and hearing Joseph's thoughts on Vrains in... hang on lemme check some chat logs to determine when I started this and how long that'll take... 2027! See you all then!

    • @evan64915
      @evan64915 Месяц назад +3

      You skipped the best season, and capsule monsters

    • @satriasena4271
      @satriasena4271 Месяц назад

      You just enter the best season. 5Ds is banger

    • @uninspiredname2974
      @uninspiredname2974 Месяц назад

      Don't worry it gets very better after 5D's

    • @salihhtamer
      @salihhtamer Месяц назад

      @@uninspiredname2974 I guess I shouldn't have taken seriously the comment of someone who praised Sevens and Go Rush but called 5D's bad lol

    • @uninspiredname2974
      @uninspiredname2974 Месяц назад +4

      @@salihhtamer I don't think 5D's is *bad* as a whole, but rather that it does drop the ball after s2. S2 (dark signers) is genuinely really good! But then they switch focus to this sort of sci fi plot, aki becomes wholly irrelevant, crow hogan and his fucking pigeon deck, and they even further drop the ball with the zone plot by having him just be some rando cosplaying yusei

  • @mateusrp1994
    @mateusrp1994 Месяц назад +77

    I disagree, I think Vrains needed more filler. Yusaku is the only protagonist that does not have fun dueling, and he never got an arc where he learns to have fun. Give him a low stakes tournament arc for it, use that school dueling club for it so the school setting isn't so wasted, let him bond with Aoi and Go Onizuka over dueling for entertainment since those 2 do that for entertainment as their normal jobs anyway.

    • @nellewoodruff6337
      @nellewoodruff6337 Месяц назад +18

      Thank you, someone on the show straight-up said they regret not getting to do more with the school club and I agree hard.

    • @CronoEpsilon
      @CronoEpsilon Месяц назад +2

      Yusaku not having fun was the point, I'd argue. He didn't really have a childhood or parents to teach him how to properly socialize with people due to the Hanoi Project. Initially, Yusaku wanted revenge against the Hanoi Knights. AI, the Vrains, and the card game itself was simply a means to an end for that. I feel his character was designed to be antithetical to the other Yugioh protags as Vrains' themes weren't necessarily about friendship and happy endings.
      Heck, even in all the Vrains openings, Playmaker never smiles.

    • @nellewoodruff6337
      @nellewoodruff6337 Месяц назад +4

      @CronoEpsilon Maybe, but I would've taken any excuse to spend more time with these characters. I wish it wasn't canceled and rushed

    • @idosarts_and_krafts
      @idosarts_and_krafts Месяц назад +5

      And that's why duel links is trying to fix that

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 Месяц назад

      ​@@nellewoodruff6337 Citation?

  • @RronKarahoda
    @RronKarahoda Месяц назад +69

    My favorite tidbit about Vrains will always be the scenario writers saying that writing good duels for the series became harder and harder as cards got more powerful, faster, and more spammy.
    And that tracks! How are you supposed to have emotional duels when they end in one turn cycle?

    • @ab2aasd
      @ab2aasd Месяц назад +26

      It had to be really hard to not write Aoi FTKing people left right and center

    • @__-be1gk
      @__-be1gk Месяц назад +2

      Spoken like someone who doesnt actually play the game

    • @shadowpiplup
      @shadowpiplup Месяц назад +10

      ​@@ab2aasdCould she ftk with the first batch of trick stars by themselves?

    • @jjasuka
      @jjasuka Месяц назад +23

      Even one of the writers said they struggled to write duels with soul burner because his deck was to powerful too lose

    • @gabrieldoyen692
      @gabrieldoyen692 Месяц назад +5

      @@jjasuka Bullshit. They managed off things so he wouldn't lose. He should have lost to Aoi in their duel for example, but they gave him a random, inexistant anti-burn card just so their precious Soulburner wouldn't lose.

  • @cherrycreamsoda4253
    @cherrycreamsoda4253 Месяц назад +9

    Some people also theorize that Borrelend Dragon (the Borrel/Rokker Link-5) not appearing in VRAINS is also a sign of it being rushed. I personally also think this with Borreload Riot Dragon not showing up. It would be odd for just Playmaker to do a ritual, and not his rival no?
    Oh also AI’s English VA is Yuya. That should explain many things.

    • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
      @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu Месяц назад +3

      The link 5 that was annojnced if I recall correctly mentions Rokkets in its effect, something the other Borrel didn't do, so I think it was more legacy support than a thing for the show.
      When the shows end they like to merge the characters series of cards, like Yusei getting cards that mention Synchron, Junk, Stardust and/or Warrior Synchro, which are his most prominente series of cards

  • @GOMO26
    @GOMO26 Месяц назад +20

    My biggest problem with Vrains so far has been the amount of times someone summons a low attack monster and are told it was a mistake before everyone acts surprised that momsters have abilities and attack points are irrelevant

    • @megamegasamx1014
      @megamegasamx1014 Месяц назад +6

      Tbf every yugioh series does that lol

    • @AverageInternetCitizen
      @AverageInternetCitizen Месяц назад +4

      ​@@megamegasamx1014I mean 5Ds isn't as guilty once you get past the prison arc that introduced the concept that weak monsters usually facilitate synchros

  • @elin111
    @elin111 Месяц назад +25

    The name Revolver kicked ass.
    Varis was such a dumbass name change.

    • @nellewoodruff6337
      @nellewoodruff6337 Месяц назад +6

      I like it for the soul reason of
      "Big talk coming from someone who's name rhymes with Embarass!" Such a dumb line but it makes me smile

    • @philbuttler3427
      @philbuttler3427 Месяц назад +8

      Unfortunately Americans have to deal with revolvers every time they go to school and they didn't wanna feature it in their escapist entertainment.

  • @Byrdstar6423-un3me
    @Byrdstar6423-un3me Месяц назад +10

    Honestly I wish Vrains had a Manga so badly...so many of its problems would've been fixed in the Manga and it wouldn't have been a billion episodes of meandering and padding

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 Месяц назад +2

      Provided it wasn't Yoshida writing that one too, of course. Would have turned Bohman into Yusaku's future daughter or something.

  • @idalwave
    @idalwave Месяц назад +1

    The Link World animation was during the Hanoi Knight duel, the Go duel, the Aoi duel, and the first 2 Revolver duels. I believe after that, starting from the Emma duel, the animation clears up. Holly Angel gets her iconic summoning animation after that and the animations in the Link Arrow animations in the Akira duel were dynamic
    Also, I’d argue that Reiji/Declan from Arc V, above all, was the duelist that knew how to duel. Nothing was ever unaccountable for him. He did infinite loops and built crazy boards. His turns against Yuya in the Round 2 fight even /look/ cool.

  • @__-be1gk
    @__-be1gk Месяц назад +5

    We're never getting the vrains essay because he'll say he already got all his thoughts out on this stream

  • @lobsterbisque333
    @lobsterbisque333 Месяц назад +4

    Imagine you are watching Vrains, then lets say there is a shark ...

  • @BandannaBread
    @BandannaBread Месяц назад +3

    I can't believe MBT got me to watch Master Duel by becoming an anime protagonist

  • @tonyborris9584
    @tonyborris9584 Месяц назад +2

    The biggest problem with vrains is the ending. Instead of learning to move on, socialize more, and open up, Yusaku willing decides to disappear into the VR world. They try to paint it as a good thing and healthy thing but it's the complete oppisite

  • @DaedricSheep
    @DaedricSheep Месяц назад +3

    I feel like two of the most prolific "posts that escaped containment" posters on Tumblr are Thyrell and Teaboot, and I'm mutuals with both lol they're great. There's also the pink one we don't talk about anymore.... nor should we

  • @haruhirogrimgar6047
    @haruhirogrimgar6047 Месяц назад

    Vrains Arc 1 (sub) was peak Yugioh for me alongside S4 of GX.
    It was SO god damn good at showing off hyper-competent duelists. It easily had the best duels and least friendship speaches at that. Go Onizuka vs Revolver to this day is my favourite anime duel and made me pick up pure-gouki's (none of that warrior soup crap).

  • @CarbonMalite
    @CarbonMalite Месяц назад +7

    I just finished Vrains, and boy did they fumble so many character arcs. Even though I thought there were crazy good duels in S3, they really made so many good characters from S1 eat so much dirt by this point. It felt like kicking a dog while it's down but for the entire supporting cast

  • @mrbubbles6468
    @mrbubbles6468 Месяц назад +2

    They had a concept but then the ending of Arc V screwed things hard so they spent the entirety pf Season 1 playing catch up and only got stuff together in Season 2 but by then it was too late to fix the bigger issues.

  • @TheIncinerator12
    @TheIncinerator12 Месяц назад +3

    this is why you dismantle every time you open packs. so you dont have to look through your collection. if you dismantle after every opening you know every card in your collection has been vetted.

  • @insertname5371
    @insertname5371 Месяц назад +5

    Unironically it’s shocking how good he is at being a Yugioh protagonist in a duel he must practice in the mirror.

  • @timdoe8895
    @timdoe8895 Месяц назад +1

    I love how I said out loud that he summoms seven fucking times and then Joseph immediately says 7 as well. I knew exactly what he was talking about.

  • @haydenz0
    @haydenz0 Месяц назад +1

    the vod is marked june 25th when that's thursday. this was the wednesday stream and I think thats funny.

  • @a1rg3ar31
    @a1rg3ar31 Месяц назад +1

    I want to see Dark Mummy's finally get printed, just so that I could finally play with their virus cards, which are so absurdly broken.

  • @fafnir2076
    @fafnir2076 Месяц назад +1

    59:09, MBT why are you surprised? You dubbed this episode. That’s your voice.

  • @Oddwinters
    @Oddwinters Месяц назад +3

    The thing that made me drop vrains was Blue Angel going through like 4 different arcs centered around her losing duels for being a woman and resolving all of them with her losing a duel for being a woman.
    That and season 2 where they dueled Bohman 6 times and his deck never got interesting

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 Месяц назад +1

      Not to mention he never beats Yusaku, but we're supposed to believe on the _fourth_ try - and Yusaku still hasn't ever lost, _and_ it'sthe end of the season - that THIS is the time he'll pull it off.

  • @philbuttler3427
    @philbuttler3427 Месяц назад +2

    A lot of the west coast has decentish public transportation. Same thing with major cities in the North East. Like idk where MBT lives but its certainly not in those places.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 Месяц назад

      People need to GTFO of most of the middle. Just not worth it.

  • @AverageInternetCitizen
    @AverageInternetCitizen Месяц назад +1

    7:30 That's what happens when your boyfriends drive you everywhere
    See: -Pillow- Passenger Princess

  • @shamebegone
    @shamebegone Месяц назад +2

    Peak MBT stream is as low Yugioh as posible

  • @Zeroyue622
    @Zeroyue622 Месяц назад +6

    We know they are tcg exclusive because we watch thelawygo.

  • @Rush_Coil
    @Rush_Coil Месяц назад

    vrains is very good with potential to be peak that can be reached in a fanfic or something

  • @Ruggi21
    @Ruggi21 Месяц назад +8

    Vrains could have been so much more but it’s still very good

  • @SDREHXC
    @SDREHXC Месяц назад +6

    I feel like all the yugioh series have potential of varying to degrees for varying things but ultimately fall short. Even the best ones are still not great in the grand scheme of media. They’re still fun if you play the card game though.

    • @LazurBeemz
      @LazurBeemz Месяц назад +2

      The original Yu-Gi-Oh manga by Takahashi is an excellent battle manga, though.

  • @falloutsearies
    @falloutsearies Месяц назад

    I just thought AI's turn was because he just wanted to die, and did what he did so that Revolver or Yusaku would take him out.

  • @Fishman573
    @Fishman573 Месяц назад +3

    so long as we all agree that ZEXAL is the BEST ANIME
    I'm
    FEEELING
    THE
    FLOWWWWWWWW

    • @Honest_Mids_Masher
      @Honest_Mids_Masher Месяц назад

      I'm still a bigger 5DS fan but Zexal is unironically one of the best written shows in the series

  • @scizor285
    @scizor285 Месяц назад

    I'm only here for the yapping and Isaac.

  • @haruhirogrimgar6047
    @haruhirogrimgar6047 Месяц назад

    On the anti-car thing. My goal is to immigrate to Europe so I can stop having to drive a car everywhere. Absolutely miserable experience.

  • @esteban8471
    @esteban8471 Месяц назад

    Ai wasn't "evil" in the last season, so much as depressed. Yeah, he's doing bad things but they're not done out of malicious intent. And then you get to his duel with Playmaker, and he tells him what his end goal is. He's trying to off himself.

  • @ryanjones_rheios
    @ryanjones_rheios Месяц назад

    See, my initial thought about the midwest thing was "even if you're white, this is how you disappear", but then the angle of taking random girls out from diners as a vagabond came clear and its like "ohhh, noooo, *you're* the one making people disappear, that's the demographic for this".

  • @f7forever
    @f7forever Месяц назад

    Z-ARC & Pend are so hype

  • @luigitaku1018
    @luigitaku1018 Месяц назад +8

    Saying season 3 got bad is such a weird take to me cause it is by far the most enjoyable season

    • @manjackson2772
      @manjackson2772 Месяц назад +13

      Waldorf: Yeah? Why's that?
      Statler: It's the shortest!
      Both: Doh-ho-ho-ho-ho!

    • @elin111
      @elin111 Месяц назад +1

      Season 3 had an interesting premise but by all metrics it was a bad season.
      Granted big parts of why it is bad came down to the animation studio was a crumbling shitshow to the point the season abruptly just ends out of nowhere with 6 or 7 plot threads completely unresolved

    • @luigitaku1018
      @luigitaku1018 Месяц назад +5

      @@elin111 it is good because it didnt touch on any of those, the side cast is mostly ass, im glad we spent all our time with Ai, the best character in that show and got Soulburner vs Revolver, the best looking duel in the show.

    • @elin111
      @elin111 Месяц назад +2

      @@luigitaku1018 Sidelining 80% of a show's entire cast is not good writing. Having a show's sidecast be so ass they all get entirely sidelined is not good writing.

    • @luigitaku1018
      @luigitaku1018 Месяц назад +2

      @@elin111 that's exactly it, with the show being cancelled and less than 20 eps to wrap things up, having the focus entirely on Ai instead of side characters that had 2 seasons of development that went in circles or nowhere, that was a right decision. It is not "good" because the seasons prior had those flaws and it didn't have time to fix it, so by just focusing on the parts that were cool made it more enjoyable

  • @Datdogg122
    @Datdogg122 Месяц назад +1

    Trains

  • @joeymayson8279
    @joeymayson8279 Месяц назад

    When tf are they gonna print Judgement Arrow

  • @mujigant
    @mujigant Месяц назад

    Why do you think Ai was evil? He wasn't
    Edit: Cause of the "He's evil because he saw his friends hurt and killed" comment I don't think you actually watched the last season lol

  • @Ironpecker
    @Ironpecker Месяц назад

    34:18 Duolingo jumpscare

  • @liviousgameplay1755
    @liviousgameplay1755 Месяц назад

    (28:45) Yeah, the reason the other "furry bait" Pokémon work for ppl is bc they are Pokémon first, but Lovander is a bait Pal, not a normal Pal. The fandom does all the work "ruining" the popular bait Pokémon, just like every other Fandom's nsfw section. Like I can draw my Gardevoir as a memory of a time when it was on my team and won me battles, but how do you do that with Lovander without it's "debauchery" taking the spotlight. OP is right.

  • @ryionizer3622
    @ryionizer3622 Месяц назад

    i would be down to watch the yugioh animes cause some of them do really have great moments, I love What DM did with marik as a villian, all the way from battle city to the end. I love the entirity of the third season of GX with yubel as the villain, her whole arc was so interesting. I think 5ds is the best all around anime and one that I would probably watch if i had to choose one. I actually like the idea of yuma as a character for zexal as a regular guy that actually sucks ass at dueling at the start (the other series but mostly 5ds have protags who are just gods at yugioh and i think it becomes boring after a while). Arc-V. And of course people always say that vrains is super good. My problem with this is that every single series is WAY TOO LONG. each series is just about 150 episodes and i am NOT sitting through that for SIX series straight. I am caught up to one piece and im never doing that again for another series lol. if all the yugioh series were just condensed to only be the good parts of each season and each was maybe like a 3rd (50 eps) to half (75 eps) of their length per series i would def be more inclined to watch

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 Месяц назад

      Sevens is only 92, shorter in the dub as they cut out recaps. That work for you?

  • @plabcentral630
    @plabcentral630 Месяц назад

    I have watched 0 ygo anime and I have recently started with zexal because I heard it was the worst one. Good stuff

    • @Honest_Mids_Masher
      @Honest_Mids_Masher Месяц назад

      Best watch it in sub. Yumas dub voice is one of the main reason people hate Zexal. Zexal itself isn't bad at all btw in fact it's probably one of the best but the issue for everyone is Yuma's a kid and isn't instantly the best duelist.

    • @lucasmitchell9027
      @lucasmitchell9027 Месяц назад

      @@Honest_Mids_Masher Honestly anime protagonist being kids instantly turns me off because
      A- I cannot really relate to a shouting kid
      B- It generally means the themes are going to be less mature
      Honestly the only 2 animes I'm willing to watch are 5D and Vrains because they're generally more mature in themes and the protagonists aren't obnoxious.

    • @Honest_Mids_Masher
      @Honest_Mids_Masher Месяц назад

      @@lucasmitchell9027 Me personally I was able to relate to Yuma with him struggling to bear the weight of responsibility almost abandoning it and also him understanding the pain other characters are feeling in the show. He is more mature than you're giving him credit for. sure he isn't mature 24/7 but he definitely has his moments
      The show is definitely mature btw I can't exactly spoil it but there's a certain character that is basically a life ruined and caused great pain to essentially everyone and the way it affects everyone is definitely impactful. Zexal is basically the original DM with a few twists and changes to the story and imo it actually improved it.

  • @doctorchaos4436
    @doctorchaos4436 Месяц назад +1

    Vrains was pretty ass, but I'm not even sure how much of that was because of production issues and how much of it was just baked in. It baffles and upsets me looking at Team Zaizen and realizing that these people do know how to write characters who are actually characters, but none of that effort could be spent on Yusaku's group. Why would I want my protagonist to actually be interesting? Surely surface level themes of trauma will take the place of an actually fleshed-out character, right?
    And it has Revolver, who is just the fucking worst.

  • @salihhtamer
    @salihhtamer Месяц назад +2

    Vrains is so bad?! Now we have go rush, not have any plot. They duel for ramen or some stuff like this. Less pilot duels, just duel for showing the new cards. I watched yugioh every week since 5ds but first time I quit watching go rush. I quit Kuaidul or someshity name meaningless char. On the other hand rush duel cards and duels are fun but animes are very bad :(

    • @markos50100
      @markos50100 Месяц назад

      Rush duels
      Premise: have fun.
      Check
      Set-up: draw until 5, unlimited summons, sending and returning cards to deck for costs, maximum summons.
      Check
      Execution: komoney prints garbage cards that will never see the light of day when a new card is released that replaces it. You can run three of the same cards unless it has a legend tag, which reduces variance. They print card that induce nostalgia but don't improve its execution like fusions. They could have made all fusions contact fusions that send cards to the grave to fuse them instead of printing the fusion card and then introduce contact fusions again.
      No check
      Card design: art? Great
      Effects? Varies between too good decent and practically useless. Archtypes? It's almost non-existent, but those who do have very weird styles like noodles and baseball. Yet some are great like harpies, sevens road, dragons.
      Debatable.
      Anime execution: the absolute randomness of episodes outside of small arcs. Meh. Tension? Nope. Memorable characters? Few.
      Result: I'll print my own cards to play rush with friends because I just hate how cards are made to be useless most of the time.

    • @salihhtamer
      @salihhtamer Месяц назад +1

      @@markos50100 wow do u camped in the commets to write all of it about rush duels :D

    • @markos50100
      @markos50100 Месяц назад

      ​@salihhtamer don't understand what you mean with this.

    • @salihhtamer
      @salihhtamer Месяц назад +1

      @@markos50100 Were you waiting ready to write all of this about rush duel. You almost wrote an article

    • @markos50100
      @markos50100 Месяц назад +1

      @salihhtamer no I just clicked the video and scrolled to see a rush duels comment on how you didn't like it, and I commented on how I believe konami made a nice structure for the format but still make trash that makes me not wanting to play it even if it does come to the west since they still print bad cards for the sake of filling holes in decks. I just tend to write long replies to vent my frustrations of konami.

  • @Tangerinian
    @Tangerinian Месяц назад +4

    the summon animations are hype and its perfectly written up until the last season. Joseph watched the shitty dubs which has shitty voices and also shitty music. Definitely the best anime

    • @ramennoodles776
      @ramennoodles776 Месяц назад +18

      He’s literally confused by the dubbed voices in this vod 😭I’m pretty sure he watched the sub

    • @ab2aasd
      @ab2aasd Месяц назад

      There was so much recycling at the start of VRAINS that it tainted a lot of public perception

    • @Tangerinian
      @Tangerinian Месяц назад +1

      @@ramennoodles776 he did cause I think he was watching it on cartoon network or whatever it aired on. He complains about them just reading effects the whole time but the JP VAs and the music make it sound hype the whole time

    • @MBTYuGiOh
      @MBTYuGiOh Месяц назад +17

      i watched the sub as it was airing. you are not going to look me in the eye and tell me "blood shepherd was a well-written character"

    • @ab2aasd
      @ab2aasd Месяц назад +2

      @@MBTYuGiOh he was well written for a very specific demographic

  • @i_eat_denim_4_breakfast199
    @i_eat_denim_4_breakfast199 Месяц назад +1

    Imagine we cut Roboppi VS Soulburner, had Revolver beat Soulburner (he did have game and misplayed which was infuriating) and then we could use the 2 episodes we spent on Soulburner fighting A VACCUM CLEANER be spent on Revolver VS Ai.

  • @i_eat_denim_4_breakfast199
    @i_eat_denim_4_breakfast199 Месяц назад

    We VRAINS fans love your support MBT but please don't reffer to Ryoken by his dub name.