The discussion of desynchronization by others below perhaps overlooks something Chopin was trying to emphasize, something he reportedly did uniquely well: achieving almost complete finger independence. This foundation of Chopin’s written piano method, left incomplete at his death, freed the bel canto right hand from the contrapuntal left. It bewildered contemporaries who insisted that Chopin could not play in time. Some people today find it enchanting, others (see below) annoying but one thing is clear: Rosenthal was a master of this authentic (but not mandatory) tradition.
One of the most beautiful and impressive performances of these pieces I have ever heard. The unsynchronised hands make special effects, which I find very interesting and attractive. He plays in a very flexible but also profound way. It is good to hear such a great recording during this depressing Covid-19 crisis.
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I feel Rosenthal takes me back to a different time and understanding of Chopin playing. I am quite happy in that place. Chopin Nocturnes Op 9 No 2 -- Op 27 No 2 Rosenthal Rec 1935-36.wmv The Op 27 No 2 Rosenthal throws me for a loop which is quite amazing as I have trouble steadily walking across a room with my bad legs and back.
He takes his time with the music and lets it develop on its own. The combination of a strong pulsing beat + a beautiful feel for the rubato make this one of the great performances.
@@davisatdavis1 You gotta admit it was also the method in which pianos were constructed before modern era... when Yamaha's were produced with as much care and soul as Nike footwear...
This is totally unsentimental. I wonder if the general classical music listener of today would appreciate it. It needs your attention and doesn't impose itself upon you.
What an unfortunate comment given that he studied under a pupil of Chopin (Mikuli) and friend, neighbour & pianist (who knew Chopin 's style intimately as well), Liszt. Perhaps Chopin himself played this way. What would you say then? What is to say that today's received "wisdom" is actually right?
@@charlesnicholls8602 No disrespect intended to the memory of Rosenthal. Heard from a contemporary perspective the playing is definitely mannered and indulgent, however historically it is a fascinating musical document. Playing styles and musical conceptions inevitably evolve.
That s the way to play Chopin :intimate noble tender Deep rubato in the cantilena style of Bellini and Rubini.Not the modern vulgar way that Is falsly humble ,bad taste ,metronomical with a bad harsh sound "like a dog Scream"as Chopin would Say. Learn from ancient Masters.Chopin played this way.I am Sorry tht you can t arrive!
Closest thing we have have from Chopin playing as he was taught by a famous pupil of Chopin himself
The discussion of desynchronization by others below perhaps overlooks something Chopin was trying to emphasize, something he reportedly did uniquely well: achieving almost complete finger independence. This foundation of Chopin’s written piano method, left incomplete at his death, freed the bel canto right hand from the contrapuntal left. It bewildered contemporaries who insisted that Chopin could not play in time. Some people today find it enchanting, others (see below) annoying but one thing is clear: Rosenthal was a master of this authentic (but not mandatory) tradition.
One of the most beautiful and impressive performances of these pieces I have ever heard. The unsynchronised hands make special effects, which I find very interesting and attractive. He plays in a very flexible but also profound way. It is good to hear such a great recording during this depressing Covid-19 crisis.
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The greatest Chopinist on record.
I feel Rosenthal takes me back to a different time and understanding of Chopin playing. I am quite happy in that place.
Chopin Nocturnes Op 9 No 2 -- Op 27 No 2 Rosenthal Rec 1935-36.wmv
The Op 27 No 2 Rosenthal throws me for a loop which is quite amazing as I have trouble steadily walking across a room with my bad legs and back.
He takes his time with the music and lets it develop on its own. The combination of a strong pulsing beat + a beautiful feel for the rubato make this one of the great performances.
His playing of 27/2 is one of the most incredible I have ever heard.
His playing this nocturne is the
best I have everheard
Why can't anyone build pianos today with such elegant registral definition!?!?!?! Makes me want to scream.
Uhh. It's not the piano. It's the pianist's touch.
@@davisatdavis1 You gotta admit it was also the method in which pianos were constructed before modern era... when Yamaha's were produced with as much care and soul as Nike footwear...
Op 27 No 2 at 4:25
This is one of those pieces which main characteristic is beauty and beauty alone
4:22 d flat
A beautiful example of the Chopin playing of yesteryear.
Amazing sound and touch...
That s way Chopin played and that s the way Liszt played when imitating Chopin!
Amen
Wow.... The d flat.... Beautiful
i love vinyl sound
This is actually pre-vinyl - recorded on wax, pressed onto acetate. Vinyl showed up in the late 1940s.
This is eleganc!
Fenomenale!
He must have been in his 70's at the time of recording. Still very beautiful playing.
This is totally unsentimental. I wonder if the general classical music listener of today would appreciate it. It needs your attention and doesn't impose itself upon you.
Wtf
The closest one to this is Arrau ! What a great playing of the nocturnes !
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Nowadays the unsynchronised hands are a source of irritation, plus the erratic rhythmn. He however produced a lovely sound.
What an unfortunate comment given that he studied under a pupil of Chopin (Mikuli) and friend, neighbour & pianist (who knew Chopin 's style intimately as well), Liszt. Perhaps Chopin himself played this way. What would you say then? What is to say that today's received "wisdom" is actually right?
@@charlesnicholls8602 No disrespect intended to the memory of Rosenthal. Heard from a contemporary perspective the playing is definitely mannered and indulgent, however historically it is a fascinating musical document. Playing styles and musical conceptions inevitably evolve.
That s the way to play Chopin :intimate noble tender Deep rubato in the cantilena style of Bellini and Rubini.Not the modern vulgar way that Is falsly humble ,bad taste ,metronomical with a bad harsh sound "like a dog Scream"as Chopin would Say.
Learn from ancient Masters.Chopin played this way.I am Sorry tht you can t arrive!