I love the Go-Go's, had KV autograph my copy of her memoir last summer, but as total musicianship goes, Fanny runs rings around the Go-Go's. Some apples and oranges, yes. But KV herself will tell you that Jean Millington could outplay her on the bass in a heartbeat. See the movie, Fanny: The Right To Rock.
The Fun Boy Three arrangement of the song is quite different... something like 5 people in the rhythm section (including someone doing vocal beatboxing). The GoGo's do it with 2 (or 3... depend on if you include Jane as rhythm). Yeah, Gina and Kathy work on this one. FWIW: Jane Wiedlin and Terry Hall wrote this song together. I like to imagine that's why she sings the more personal bridge lyrics. Two versions, neither or which is a really a cover... just different.
Well, Charlotte is pretty versatile. If you listen to her solo demos before the gogos (guardian angel and fading fast) she had tremendous vision. The great thing about the gogos is that Charlotte had an amazing sense of unstructured creativity. Some of their chord progressions are sheer brilliance you'll never hear from anyone else. (See You Can't Walk In Your Sleep/Speeding) She also had an uncanny knack for weaving an exquisite, hooky melody through discordant chords. Then Kathy was 100% traditional structure, but with true rock and roll lead guitar expertise. (See WeDontGetAlong GoodForGone) Putting those two together as chief songwriters in a band is the perfect balance. Charlotte's limitation on lead is made up for by vision, hook, and an unparalleled mastery of sound. (See Tonite Surfing&Spying) I looooove the sound of the lead on Tonite. Then the versatility. The seldom noticed piano on We Got the Beat is BRILLIANT. I did a remix of it once that focus on that. During the guitar solo, the piano is brilliant and quite a foreshadowing of HeadOverHeels, which is as brilliant a piano piece as you'll hear in rock music. I've always wondered why the gogos didn't switch it up occasionally. Char's sound on lead is brilliant and a key gogos element, but why not swap them for Kathy to rock out more? When you're not intentionally capitalizing on Charlotte's cool, why not take advantage of Kathy's rock chops? Plus it makes them that much more versatile and impressive. Brilliant band. I really wish they'd pushed ImTheOnlyOne as another big single and cemented the gogos as a great American rock band, before moving on to the rebranding.
@@aelius93 I don't think it is fair to say that Charlotte and Kathy were the main songwriters of the Go-Go's--and this comes from a total KV fan. Although Kathy was a talented composer, Charlotte and Jane wrote the lion's share of the Go-Go's material, particularly early on.
@@TrackerNeil I wasn't omitting Jane, just asserting Kathy. Like when they say Jane wrote the bulk of talk show, she got 7 credits of the 11, the same number as Kathy, but no one says Kathy wrote the bulk of talk show.
Whenever I plug my bass in I subconsciously dial in her Bass tone. It works great in most songs and cuts through the mix when playing either finger or pick style.
Great song. I always focus my ear on the bass part throughout the song. Somehow isolated bass tracks never seem to do justice to the effect of the bass in the mix.
The multitrack masters were used for video games like Guitar Hero and Rock Band. People were able to extract the individual tracks from the game. I have all of the tracks for this song but just posted this one since I play bass and always liked Kathy's bass part.
@@bassfiddlesteve much thanks for doing that. i searched last year and only found a cover or 2. 1 was a good cover but so out of tune I couldn't listen. So thank you!!
@@bassfiddlesteve Interesting!! Because her isolated also sounded out of tune to me... that they sped it up. wow! And it's not even on a real note! my head is spinning. Thanks for that info!!
I love the bass on this song but I’m surprised that when isolated how out of time she is and off meter. There’s inconsistent time between the 1/8 notes. Don’t crucify me. I’m a drummer and notice stuff. In the full mix it sounds good.
She was originally a guitar player and transferred her technique to bass. I prefer fingerstyle myself, but her picked bass parts do stand out in the mix.
I think I can even hear a couple of 'punch-ins' where they 'fixed' the part 'cause she made mistakes, most notably at 1:29, 1:32 and 1:36. (Fixing parts is common practice during recordings in the studio, of course. Nothing wrong with that.)
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Kathy Valentine an awesome talent
I always loved her bass lines and tone. Especially in "Head over heels" and "We Got the Beat."
So simple but it complements the guitar and keyboard exceptionally well and really makes the song.
My kids like the GoGos. As a sound engineer I have been very impressed by their driving bass lines.
Love the muted part, really adds a different flavor to that section of the song.
Makes the song. One of the great pop bass lines.
Kathy Valentine is a Rock Star!
These ladies were bad ass, best girl group of all time.
you should look into the Runaways
Absolutely. None came close.
🤘🤘
Kathy and Gina were the best players, Jane and Charlotte were the best songwriters, Belinda was all image.
I love the Go-Go's, had KV autograph my copy of her memoir last summer, but as total musicianship goes, Fanny runs rings around the Go-Go's. Some apples and oranges, yes. But KV herself will tell you that Jean Millington could outplay her on the bass in a heartbeat. See the movie, Fanny: The Right To Rock.
Kathy was the Go-Go's secret weapon
She’s an excellent bass player that’s a guitar player.
Brilliant....the bass drives the song.
The Fun Boy Three arrangement of the song is quite different... something like 5 people in the rhythm section (including someone doing vocal beatboxing). The GoGo's do it with 2 (or 3... depend on if you include Jane as rhythm). Yeah, Gina and Kathy work on this one.
FWIW: Jane Wiedlin and Terry Hall wrote this song together. I like to imagine that's why she sings the more personal bridge lyrics. Two versions, neither or which is a really a cover... just different.
I've remixed this song with each track and NEVER NOTICED the chorus is palm muted.
It makes it punchy.
An interesting touch.
Always been one of my favourite bass players. Thanks for posting!
Huzzah,, I love this so much! Thank you thank you
Kathy was in a band in the early 90s after the Go Go’s that I got to see play at the Music Machine on Pico Blvd. in Los Angeles. It was a fun night.
Was she hot?
@@rudolphguarnacci197 she is always hot 🔥
@@toms4442
Got that right!
Love ya, Kathy.
Kathy Valentine and Gina Schock were the best musicians (playing wise) in the band. Charlotte, Jane & Kathy were the best songwriters .
Absolutely awesome
Bellísima Khaty Valentíne, extraordinaria musico
I'm just impressed that not only did you isolate the bass, you tracked down the only two known photos of her.
I aim to please!
Wow! What talent!
Love this!
Best musician in the band.
Along with Gina.
Charlotte was the only classically trained musician. The others hacked along.... love all the girls though. They were the epitome of 80s valley girls.
Well, Charlotte is pretty versatile. If you listen to her solo demos before the gogos (guardian angel and fading fast) she had tremendous vision.
The great thing about the gogos is that Charlotte had an amazing sense of unstructured creativity. Some of their chord progressions are sheer brilliance you'll never hear from anyone else. (See You Can't Walk In Your Sleep/Speeding) She also had an uncanny knack for weaving an exquisite, hooky melody through discordant chords.
Then Kathy was 100% traditional structure, but with true rock and roll lead guitar expertise. (See WeDontGetAlong GoodForGone)
Putting those two together as chief songwriters in a band is the perfect balance.
Charlotte's limitation on lead is made up for by vision, hook, and an unparalleled mastery of sound. (See Tonite Surfing&Spying) I looooove the sound of the lead on Tonite.
Then the versatility. The seldom noticed piano on We Got the Beat is BRILLIANT. I did a remix of it once that focus on that. During the guitar solo, the piano is brilliant and quite a foreshadowing of HeadOverHeels, which is as brilliant a piano piece as you'll hear in rock music.
I've always wondered why the gogos didn't switch it up occasionally.
Char's sound on lead is brilliant and a key gogos element, but why not swap them for Kathy to rock out more?
When you're not intentionally capitalizing on Charlotte's cool, why not take advantage of Kathy's rock chops?
Plus it makes them that much more versatile and impressive.
Brilliant band.
I really wish they'd pushed ImTheOnlyOne as another big single and cemented the gogos as a great American rock band, before moving on to the rebranding.
@@aelius93 I don't think it is fair to say that Charlotte and Kathy were the main songwriters of the Go-Go's--and this comes from a total KV fan. Although Kathy was a talented composer, Charlotte and Jane wrote the lion's share of the Go-Go's material, particularly early on.
@@TrackerNeil I wasn't omitting Jane, just asserting Kathy. Like when they say Jane wrote the bulk of talk show, she got 7 credits of the 11, the same number as Kathy, but no one says Kathy wrote the bulk of talk show.
This is so fun to follow!
Whenever I plug my bass in I subconsciously dial in her Bass tone. It works great in most songs and cuts through the mix when playing either finger or pick style.
Great song. I always focus my ear on the bass part throughout the song. Somehow isolated bass tracks never seem to do justice to the effect of the bass in the mix.
As seen in the documentary, she learned this and other songs over a weekend high on Coke.
Awesome job , wow , can you do the whole album beaty and the beat please
I only have the isolated tracks to this song. This is Kathy Valentine’s original bass track.
KVs a legend
Coolest Go-Go.
Kathy Valentine is an underrated musician ❤
Kathy, U rule!
Kathy fucking Rocks!
Do the bass track for “forget that day” and “head over heels”
I don't have the multitrack masters for those songs. This is Kathy's original bass track.
@@bassfiddlesteve
So that's not you playing? That's Kathy?
@@rudolphguarnacci197 correct, this is Kathy Valentine. It’s taken from the original multitrack master.
@@bassfiddlesteve
Amazing. That is just too freakin' cool. Thanks for posting.
Love this line. That middle break has always sounded like she loses time though...
Kathy is a badass!!
I wonder how a track like that is isolated?
The multitrack masters were used for video games like Guitar Hero and Rock Band. People were able to extract the individual tracks from the game. I have all of the tracks for this song but just posted this one since I play bass and always liked Kathy's bass part.
@@bassfiddlesteve much thanks for doing that. i searched last year and only found a cover or 2. 1 was a good cover but so out of tune I couldn't listen. So thank you!!
@@bassrabbit9 You're welcome. The original recording was sped up and is pitched between G and Ab which might be why the cover was out of tune.
@@bassfiddlesteve Interesting!! Because her isolated also sounded out of tune to me... that they sped it up. wow! And it's not even on a real note! my head is spinning. Thanks for that info!!
@@bassfiddlesteve
Disappointing to learn they sped it up. I heard the Beatles did a lot of crap like that.
I love the bass on this song but I’m surprised that when isolated how out of time she is and off meter. There’s inconsistent time between the 1/8 notes. Don’t crucify me. I’m a drummer and notice stuff. In the full mix it sounds good.
Posilutely correct sir.
@@chasbodaniels1744 thank you sir.
Listen to some Geddy Lee isolated bass parts. They aren't perfect either. It's amazing what gets concealed in the full mix.
I think the songs were sped up by the producers, so everything is a bit off. Good ear!
I always thought it sounded like she played a Fender Jazz Bass on this. Anyone know what it was?
According to her memoir she borrowed a Fender Precision Bass from Clover bassist John Ciambotti for these sessions.
That's a P Bass.
Recognizable.
HOF musician
I love her bass lines, not a fan of it being played with a pick. Sounds way too much like an electric guitar track
She was originally a guitar player and transferred her technique to bass. I prefer fingerstyle myself, but her picked bass parts do stand out in the mix.
Clever but very sloppy.
Yeah, I'm surprised too a bit at how sloppy the playing is in spots. But, it worked.
I think I can even hear a couple of 'punch-ins' where they 'fixed' the part 'cause she made mistakes, most notably at 1:29, 1:32 and 1:36. (Fixing parts is common practice during recordings in the studio, of course. Nothing wrong with that.)
And you are?? Oh yeah, someone that's NOT in the Rock Hall of Fame. Remember that.
@@chrisdirk5291 Are you talking about me?
@@fenderwoods
I think he's talking to the originator who thinks he's a bass god.