tell us how you really feel about memory OC... i thought there was an actual issue with this motherboard, glad there isnt. i just bought one for a new gaming build.
the DH has a sticker over the traces. Now if that sticker is made of material that somehow effects the impedance of the traces under it then it could actually do something but I doubt it.
@buildzoid Any idea why the "b550 xe gaming" is advertised on the asus website as capable of ddr4-4800(oc) but the way cheaper "b550 f gaming" is advertised as capable of ddr4-5100? What might be the reason for that?
IDK most boards that advertise ddr4 5100 just rely on the insane crucial 5100 kit which does over 5000 on every board I used it on. (Didn't bother with it on the strix since Bdie is better for benching)
You should write motherboard reviews for pcper, they complaint about it on their podcast yesterday. If noone else is doing it and you care about it, do it.
I wonder how much would it help to just take copper tape and put it over memory traces and ground it somewhere. It could be easy fix if shielding is only thing holding memory back.
This a good to know. I got the B550-E on sale and it works great with 4x8 3800C14 but I never tried to go higher. Now I know not to bother trying 4000.
i don't have issues running ddr4-4000 stable on 2*16 b-die on the f-gaming. Not 1:1 with the fclk because my cpu can't do 2000if, but the memory appears to be stable.
It does 4000 1:1:1 with 32x2 Micron rev. b kit on my b550-e, no problems, but I get supposedly harmless WHEA related to IMC, which is a common thing. Currently running CL16 3800 MHz
I have the B-550 E and 2x8GB 3600 C14 ram sticks. Is there anywhere you can point me for the most helpful info on how to safely overclock my ram. It's running at 2666Hz. When I tried to enable DOCP at 3600Hz it wouldn't boot and I had to clear CMOS to reset it. I am really bad at getting my head around this stuff and would just love a sure way to get this sorted.
I've got a b550 e with 32gigs of Corsair vengeance RGB pro. 2x16. At 3600 I get b.s.o.d . It was great at first but has gotten worse. What can I do to solve this?
This is MY BOARD! Well the B550-E version. Can't wait to see him rip it to shreds, this board for all its good lets itself down in all its bad. It's a shame but I gotta live with it since technically I damaged the 3.0 port!
BZ, you're the only one I've ever seen OC DJR, I thought I was IF limited until I ran 1.5v on 64gb of DJR at 3800 16 -19-19-35. Can you check the voltage scaling on DJR? It seems better than most people realize.
@@stuartlunsford7556 I've gotten into HWBot recently, but my only hardware for it is an old Foxconn board with a Phenom II. It's fun, really fun, but I'm not good at it, and the BIOS doesn't go past 1,600MHz on the memory... Which is kind of killing me.
The VRM fan 25:10 is quite useful with CPU watercooling, where you may not get much airflow over the VRM area. And that heatsink does not look to work too well in completetly still air. I wonder if you can just disconnect that fan when using a CPU air cooler...
The fan has ZERO use other than collecting more dust even with water cooling setup .This board has 14 units of 90Amp power stages for the Vcore alone . There is no CPU on AM4 platform that can use even half as much power that the board is capable of delivering. Even with half the power stages, it is good enough for the AM4 platform with a good heatsink and no fan. That is the configuration that ITX boards get these days due to physical space constraints.
I got myself a B550-F on sale for €140. Using some 4x8GB A0 B-Die and it doesn't seem to like CL14 at all. I assumed it would be great since people recommend 6-layer boards for their better RAM overclocking capabilities, turns out that isn't entirely correct.
my b550-f does cl 14 on my 4x8gb kit upto 3666mhz. but i have to adjust some voltages besides the memory voltage. but it also runs into a wall when tryin to boot 3866 CL16
to be fair, crosshair boards are the amd version of maximus boards. Strix boards are like one level above the TUF boards. Comparing the strix amd board to the maximus intel board is kinda weak. But I don't know why they would have sent you a strix and not a crosshair, anyways.
They have been at least somewhat gearing their boards towards Buildzoid recently, at least as far as I can tell, but I'd strongly consider a B550 Master Buildzoid Edition. I don't know how they'd go about making that though, what would they change?
At least Gigabyte did listen to Buildzoid's input on the POST code location. They never put their POST code at the bottom of the last PCI-E slot anymore.
Asus B550i, 5600x, g skill 3600 c16 gvkc (not bdie). Docp works fine. Second b550i, 5600g, g skill c16 gvkc and cant even run docp. Best it does is 3400, but can tighten some timings... Will boot slightly over it, but 3500 and 3600 are not bootable (ram or cpu led error) Would you say it is 5600g or BIOS holding it back?
I think I have a bad ram slot on my dark hero installing 4x16 ram cause whea / random reboots three sticks work fine. I don't understand if its the processor or the board? how to confirm???
Buildzoid - would you prefer strix b550-xe over older b550-e? I broke my b550-e and wanted to buy identical one, but I see that xe is supposedly newer... is it better? Or actually - is it now worse? :D
I have an ASUS b550f gaming wifi that has a wake from sleep issue. I would enjoy you having a video on why this may be, especially if you have seen it before or know why. Wondering if it is say a voltage controller issue or poorly written UEFI code/CPU microcode. I have the newest non beta UEFI and done all sorts of troubleshooting. Far as I can see it is an oversight from one of the above mentioned.
@@VargVikernes1488 For me, sometimes when trying to exit sleep, the system will not POST as it were. POST LEDs come on so it is responding but it takes two hard shutdowns to get it back up, it typically halts on boot drive selection no matter how long I wait. If it helps I have a ryzen 5 3600 and amd rx6800. It is a known issue for this board, some reports suggest it isn't sending the correct voltages to components sometimes when it wakes, causing say the NVMe drive to not come back up
Hi BZ. Hoping you'll see this and you can drop some knowledge on me. I have a 10850k paired z490 godlike with 10850k and 2x16gb kit of 4266CL16 Bdie (so says thaiphoon), I can get 3866CL14 stable or even 3900, but 4000mhz and higher will not let me into bios regardless of timings. Is it a board issue? Weak IMC? I need 1.20VCCIO and 1.37VCCSA for 3866CL14. Saw in one of your other vids you said 1.38 was your comfort level for VCCSA 24/7. Any ideas would be helpful if you see this!
I'd Love to see a video on your thoughts on the new amd 1 click cpu & gpu oc in radeon software.. not ryzen master but the adrenalin software tuning tab... Also your not wasting our time my dude were here for the rants and your thoughts on stuff
I'm torn between the B550 Vision D-P and the X570S Aero G. Neither has many standout features that are crucial to me, but I'll be pairing it with a 5900X and unfortunately, 2x16GB 3200-C16 v4.32 C-die Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB. Will upgrade when GPUs become sensibly priced again. EDIT: Forgot the point: Would like to hear your thoughts on the B550 Vision D-P.
I have a Dark Hero. It's basically just a Hero WiFi with 90A VRM parts, Dynamic OC Switcher and different aesthetics. Also, Asus didn't even bother to send out a proper manual with it. You have to reference the Hero WiFi Manual online if you want to know anything indepth. They don't even mention Dynamic OC Switcher in the manual *AT ALL*.
@@noxious89123 I don't think the C8F has that, either. At least I don't remember it having one. I was able to easily overclock the piss out of my Patriot Steel Series 4400mhz CL19 2x8 on the C8F (down to 3800 Cl14 @1.5v), but now I'm using a B550F Strix and it's only really able to run exactly the same as what BZ's getting... 4533. With 20-19-19-19 timings
I'm wondering if using the other two dimm slots would make a difference? I'm struggling to get over 3600mhz with cjr where as my old b350 tomahawk would do 3800mhz with the same kit no problem.
@buildzoid, should I even bother using this at all? light overclocking of cpu gpu(ftw3rtx3070) gskill 3600cl16-16-16-36 and 5900x. just gonna get a cheaper board and shelve this one. steel legend seems like a good way or maybe msi? idk but it'll be cheaper thats for sure. 455 Canadian...
I have a rog strix b550 e gaming. I paired 32 gigs of Trident z RGB ram. I constantly get blue screens with them and have to take them out And put them back in.. I have it over locked to 3200 instead of the 3600 mhz that they are rated for. Still same crashes. What can I do to stop the blue screens.
i must have lucked out on my b550-e or something im sure theres something janky with my 5800x in terms of thermals but ive had np pushing my 3200cl14 kit to 3800 cl16 maybe what ur saying is stopping me from hitting 4000 cuz the infinity fabric will run 2000 on my mobo i just cant get the ram to 4000 im also very new to overclocking and im running those sticks at 3200cl14 cuz i dont trust my OC when i have more ram sticks and my setup is different in terms of storage drives connected to my PCi think ill try pushing them higher but im also building PCs again so i expect to have other 5800x and some 5900x 5950x and 5600x to test with
Well, 4800MHz ram speed is sort of useless except for "testing the ram" as most Ryzen cpus can't do over 1900IF stable. My Asus boards does 3800MHz dual rank with both B-die and DJR at 1.4V, so for daily use nothing much to complain about. All my Asus boards(five) has VTTDDR adjustment, all works well for that daily usage. Maybe not the ultimate OC-guru dream boards, but solid consumer boards.
Yo. You could try to add a ground layer in that space between the memory and CPU. How? Use double sided plastic tape for electric isolation and add a copper tape above it and fix/solder a ground on that tape. Would require some precise cutting. to fit it around the caps. If you end using multiple strips of copper tape to go around corners and caps make sure that they are making a connection with the strips below. The adhesive on the the tape can work as a electrical isolator and you might need to bight the strips of tape with solder to make a good connection. You can add a additional layer of normal tape to hide the copper layer.
It's a BIOS/UEFI bug. You need to set the desired timings in ALL THREE places, only then will memory OC work reliably. Setting it in any 1 or 2 of the 3 places, and leaving the others on 'auto', will result in occasional (or sometimes, always) boot loops as though the timing was unstable and it's trying to retrain until it fails the third time and drops to the BIOS. You know the failure, you've seen it. This bug has been in the system since release and has been reported to Asus some years ago.
@@prajal161 Yes. Just set the primary timings in all three menus. So, primary, secondary and tertiary timings in the normal menu (the Asus OC one), plus, set the primary timings as hex numbers in both of the AMD menus. Even my 4x8GB system goes over 4GHz, this way.
Hi buildzoid i bought my motherboard in a shop , my b550 tomahawk broke and they reemplaze with a b550 f is pretty basic in everything that includes oc my 3600 at 1.28 works with vdrop in the tomahawk with lcl at Minimum without It , the f i think i am going to use a higher Mode because in level 2 It has a vdrop to 1.264 and i only oc my RAM in this board so i couldnt compare and It also doesnt help that i dont even know what chip it has only that they are micron ( sorry for my english)
maybe adding a second can between the DIMMs and CPU, I recall that mattered back in x370 days, so may be part of it, yet them exposed traces will wreck any gains ye probably can get out of cap-mods, lol. I recall a lot of the x470 boards having 2 cans there, and I guess ASUS couldn't be bothered to do that, lol. I do second the curiosity of if it will do anything.
@@Zarcondeegrissom If you look at the X570 Aorus Master , V1.0 vs V1.2 . The V1.0 has 2 cans between DIMM and CPU , V1.2 has no cans at all. However the V1.2 overclocks RAM far better than V1.0 . It think it has to be something else that matter but not the cans.
@@fleurdewin7958 yeah x570 is different from x370 and x470 (dif topologies of traces as well). my thought was it's not 2 or none, they couldn't be bothered to add the second can, lol. they had that little give a damn about the memory.
Hey does anybody know how bad it would be to only have Single Channel Ram, two dimms? (Cpu broken). How much performance would I loose on the 5600x (gonna oc the ram to my personal max ofc)
LOL my old b450 Aorus Pro with 5600G does 4x8GB b-die at 4000 cl16-16-16 EZ... That's sad to see from such a good mboard, so i guess it must be very good at something else then, and that's probably the pci-e side where you can use the second pci-e x8 slot for additional 2 m.2 nvmes, and of course for SLI, so it's still a very good mboard, just they should point that it's mediocre at 4x8 ram speeds!
4x8 on the Steel Legend is happy up to 4200 Maybe new bioses helped. procODT 43,6 RTTs 7/2/1 CAD 60-20-30-30. My record for 2x16 is 4266*101 ish but idk the settings anymore
Interesting how 4x8 tends to overclock almost the same as 2x16 on these new daisy chan layouts... Apparently memory controller doesn't care, because both are dual rank configuration, but it's good to know that 4x8 is still viable option on daisy chan, because it's easier to buy 2 kits of 2x8, like Buildzoid did many times
its not to much people that lucky go more then 4000 on ryzen, i have E version, its same board, i use 4x8 b-die 3600 cl14 , its can go 3800 cl14 , also was disappointed about 1.8 max voltage, im waiting for this review, thanks 🍻👍🏻
Ive got 2 sets of trident z 3200cl14 2×8 on a b550 steel legend and ive got Ryzen 5900x How much can i overclock the ram and gain fps in games? Btw the ram is b-die for sure
I have exactly same kits ( one is RGB, other non RGB )... But on b550 tomahawk with R5 3600, I managed to do 3800 c14 at 1:1 fclk and mclk easily... And for stability and less voltage, I'm on 3733 c14... But on Steel legend, I don't know, it's 4 layer PCB, but solid for overclock, BZ has video of overclock on that board...
@@nenadmilosevic661 ive seen that but i have 4 sticks and didnt manage to oc them on r5 3600 Now im changing to r9 5900x Is there any hope?or i should change my ram to a xmp 3800?
I would think that it would be a better practice for a company that makes millions of dollars to send products to the people who are most critical and do a good job so those critics start to praise your work.
So maybe that VRM fan i never knew about is what causes the annoying whine i always here? Actually one of the reasons for choosing this over an X570 was the chipset fan on the X570! Im new to RAM OC. I was actually pretty happy that i got PC3600 to run at PC3800 15-15-15-36. Was wondering how others got to much higher. Luckily im planning on replacing this soon.
i bought g skill trident z ddr4 2x8 gig 4266mhz and managed it work on 4000mhz on my maximus XI hero don't know how to make it work on 4266mhz ...help ZzzzZZz
I have an Asus x570 Dark Hero, 4x8 Patriot 4400 cl19, 5950x cpu. The max I could get 3800 cl16-15-15-32 1T. With 2 sticks 4200 cl19 and WHEA errors... I'm so disappointed by the Dark Hero...Also I have some random stuttering happening from time to time. I have an Asus monitor, GPU and I'm very satisfied with it but the motherboard memory overclock is not near what they write in the board specs...
I dont understand the Problem, because the max Support for am4 is 3800mhz, everything else makes no Sense and has No Further worth. That says even der8auer. You have no Advantage to run the RAM at 4500 or Higher. To do Something Just because you CAN do it, without added value, is stupid. But I can understand the Problem and other Boards do better and mostly cheaper.
Hey BZ. Are you interested in further increasing your R9 290X collection? I have an ASUS DirectCUII that I wanna replace with a similar performing card that allows 0db mode (I'm a bit of a silence freak and recently managed to get everything else to be quiet enough to make this card by far the loudest component). It's had an easy life (was running an FX6300 that made gaming frustrating enough that I rarely bothered and when I did, was usually CPU limited games (city builders/strategy) and was an RMA for a 290 that died. I don't know how good it is at overclocking, I had no need to bother investing the time to fiddle with it (but as it was so close to end of production, likely to be at least be Okay).. I'm also British so postage should be pretty cheap, would chuck some cash to make fair price if you have a suitable 6GB Maxwell card. Otherwise I gotta faff about on eBay, being unemployed I'm hesitant to run the risk of bad deal(s).
@@devilchild8811 Hey. I'm only offering to BZ because he'd likely have something suitable I can Part-ex this for and I'd trust it'll work alright. Otherwise, eBay's likely a better bet. Besides, you just insulted me by calling this "old hardware" ;-)
@@ChrispyNut older not old 😉 and if BZ doesn't want it I'm offering to pay a fair price without having to go through ebay. I'll friends and family PayPal you the cash. The offer is there if BZ doesn't have it.
I run on Asus B550 4000MHz Ram (2x16 sticks) with 2000 FCLK, so its running 1:1:1, RAM is good and old Crucial Ballistix Sport 3000, MB is cheap Asus Prime B550 plus, CPU is ryzen 5 5600X. if Im not mistaken, beeing able to run this is quite rare I guess? But so far couldnt get it completely memtest stable(18-14-20-14-40-60_582), so for daily use I went back to memtest stable 3800MHz (16-12-19-12-34_553).
Youre right, I kind of ignored that fact, my fault😅 and yeah...I never owned any Samsung B Die, so I have no experience (I would like to, but its so expensive;)
Hi BZ! I have a MSI B550-A pro that can do 4266 on a 2x16 micron rev-e. Recently I bought 4x8 samsung b-die, and my board cant even post 3800 with any timings. Even 3733 boots only after many failed memory training attempts. Is that behaviour expected for my board?
I should give my X470 prime pro a go with some dual rank b-die kits... That thing dailied 3733 without a fuss... And I also have a B550-A pro which was also perfectly fine running 3866 with normal timings on the same dual rank kit (4000 was doable but the timings went to shit) and costs 100 quid.
The XE does have terrible value, I agree, however, interpret that as you wish, it does come bundled with a $100 Asus Hyper M.2 x16 Gen 4 card. Actually, I guess you know that since you bought one...?
I can totally agree with Zoid here. I bought this exact board for my new Ryzen 5000 build with all the extras and goodies. I cant get past 3800MHz on 2x8 GSkill BDie 14-15-15-35 @ 1.45
My old Crosshair VIII Hero Wifi board was difficult to get over 4466. If I manually set my Terminations I was able to boot up to 4533. I always thought it was my CPU having a weak IMC. Can't wait to get the X570 Dark and play with my 5950X and 3950X again!
@@Mathieu3424 Some memory chips are easier to clock high than others. Right now for AMD the easiest ICs are micron revB and on good boards those do 4933-5100. The sticks I tested the strix with are sticks that max out around 4666-4933 on good boards.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking ic as integrated circuit ? So this issue will be important to hardcore overclocker, I understand. I assume I’ll be ok with my 3200 ram xD
aww fk I didn't see this video and I bought the rog strix b550-a gaming, struggling with OC my micron e-die. I got 3533 16-19-17-35-56 with my crucial stick, xpm is 3000 15-16--16-35-69. It's not bad, but I'm pretty sure the chips can do better. The procODT keeps setting to 36.9 which I think is really low. It's stable with it manually set to 40ohm. I guess this is a sign that I should save some money for another mobo and maybe some better ram chips. This ram speed is way better than I got on my r7 1700x though, so I'm still happy with the upgrade.
I did a lot of that, but that was before I found out about AHOC. I built my first PC in the beginning of April, when the tariffs on cases and power supplies were crazy high. I ended up with a Bitfenix Whisper 850w, which has actually proven to be quite solid, other then that I had a i7 3960x, which I had... Mixed feelings for... And a Vega 56 that I was able to unlock an extra couple of CUs on, I got that card for $240 on eBay, which isn't possible anymore. RIP MSRPs.
Oh, and by "Quite solid" I mean I've taken it up to about 920w with Crossfire Vega 56s and an overclocked Ivy Bridge Xeon, the 2697 v2, it was only temporary, but it took the load. Now it's my test bench PSU because my only other power supply is an OEM HP unit that I don't want touching anything that draws a lot of power.
every single board i ever had from them was dogshit and i still have the z590 apex in the box because it could not for the life of it boot 2x16 bdie at xmp not my 4000 c17 kit and certainly not my 4266 c18 kit, both of these run on 4500 18 19 19 28 320 65000 on z490 dark kp btw, so the problem is not the sticks.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Yep I was meaning I have found the B550s to be better at it overall because they don't freak out when you modify the bclk so it gives a few more leavers and buttons for hitting higher oc's
I have this board, over the past 30 years of enthusiast PC building, this is without doubt the most reliable board I've had. It just works. But, I'm just running a 5800X and Ballistix 3800 at stock speeds.
I have the rog b550-e, this board has made me hate Asus. 0d post code on cold boot which makes zero sense, no clear cmos button, lack of usb ports(seriously pathetic), the shittiest memory oc(i am on dual rank b-die) and the inability to set rgb profiles in the bios(that armory crate app is shite) are just some of the things that drove me nuts. Ordered the new X570S Carbon Max WiFi, i am done with this Asus crap.
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tell us how you really feel about memory OC... i thought there was an actual issue with this motherboard, glad there isnt. i just bought one for a new gaming build.
16:30 I can't see the Dark Hero having the same memory OC, as it has "Optimem 3" and the XE has "Optimem 2". The DH also has no exposed memory traces.
the DH has a sticker over the traces. Now if that sticker is made of material that somehow effects the impedance of the traces under it then it could actually do something but I doubt it.
@buildzoid Any idea why the "b550 xe gaming" is advertised on the asus website as capable of ddr4-4800(oc) but the way cheaper "b550 f gaming" is advertised as capable of ddr4-5100? What might be the reason for that?
IDK most boards that advertise ddr4 5100 just rely on the insane crucial 5100 kit which does over 5000 on every board I used it on. (Didn't bother with it on the strix since Bdie is better for benching)
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking I've been looking at their Ryzen 4000G APU memory support, turns out. With regular Ryzens it's rated way lower.
I don't know. I got 32x2 micron rev. b sticks working at 4000 MHz stable, but with constant IO WHEA errors related to IMC on regular b550-e.
You should write motherboard reviews for pcper, they complaint about it on their podcast yesterday. If noone else is doing it and you care about it, do it.
I wonder how much would it help to just take copper tape and put it over memory traces and ground it somewhere. It could be easy fix if shielding is only thing holding memory back.
I tried that it makes it worse at it completely screws up the impedance of the traces.
This a good to know. I got the B550-E on sale and it works great with 4x8 3800C14 but I never tried to go higher. Now I know not to bother trying 4000.
i don't have issues running ddr4-4000 stable on 2*16 b-die on the f-gaming. Not 1:1 with the fclk because my cpu can't do 2000if, but the memory appears to be stable.
It does 4000 1:1:1 with 32x2 Micron rev. b kit on my b550-e, no problems, but I get supposedly harmless WHEA related to IMC, which is a common thing. Currently running CL16 3800 MHz
I‘m running 2*16 4000 MHz cl14 b-die on the E. I had to lower the voltage from 1.55 to 1.52 to POST.
I have the B-550 E and 2x8GB 3600 C14 ram sticks. Is there anywhere you can point me for the most helpful info on how to safely overclock my ram. It's running at 2666Hz. When I tried to enable DOCP at 3600Hz it wouldn't boot and I had to clear CMOS to reset it. I am really bad at getting my head around this stuff and would just love a sure way to get this sorted.
I've got a b550 e with 32gigs of Corsair vengeance RGB pro. 2x16. At 3600 I get b.s.o.d . It was great at first but has gotten worse. What can I do to solve this?
I think we should make our own community mainboard - with pink capacitors and some pcie 4x slots directly from the cpu instead of 3 m.2s.
Basically just the B550 unify x but swap a single m.2 for a pcie just to make buildzoid happy lmfao.
@@Ayane13b And also add SLI support for whatever ungodly reason.
@@Ayane13b Doesn't have intel lan, or sli or pink caps.
Liquid electrolyte capacitors for some extra spice
If I don't care about Memory overclocking beyond enabling XMP is this board ok?
nice! i was waiting for someone to talk about this board, not many are.
This is MY BOARD! Well the B550-E version. Can't wait to see him rip it to shreds, this board for all its good lets itself down in all its bad. It's a shame but I gotta live with it since technically I damaged the 3.0 port!
Here in Brazil this board cost $230 good choice or not?
BZ, you're the only one I've ever seen OC DJR, I thought I was IF limited until I ran 1.5v on 64gb of DJR at 3800 16
-19-19-35. Can you check the voltage scaling on DJR? It seems better than most people realize.
Got me some records on hwbot with my 5900x.
@@stuartlunsford7556 should scale to around 1.85 for benching. Daily upto 1.6V is fine on DJR.
@@stuartlunsford7556 I've gotten into HWBot recently, but my only hardware for it is an old Foxconn board with a Phenom II. It's fun, really fun, but I'm not good at it, and the BIOS doesn't go past 1,600MHz on the memory... Which is kind of killing me.
The VRM fan 25:10 is quite useful with CPU watercooling, where you may not get much airflow over the VRM area. And that heatsink does not look to work too well in completetly still air. I wonder if you can just disconnect that fan when using a CPU air cooler...
The fan has ZERO use other than collecting more dust even with water cooling setup .This board has 14 units of 90Amp power stages for the Vcore alone . There is no CPU on AM4 platform that can use even half as much power that the board is capable of delivering. Even with half the power stages, it is good enough for the AM4 platform with a good heatsink and no fan. That is the configuration that ITX boards get these days due to physical space constraints.
I got myself a B550-F on sale for €140. Using some 4x8GB A0 B-Die and it doesn't seem to like CL14 at all. I assumed it would be great since people recommend 6-layer boards for their better RAM overclocking capabilities, turns out that isn't entirely correct.
A friend of mine has a B500-A wich is the copy of F but white and found out that B550-F is daisy chain maybe that's the cause of your problem.
my b550-f does cl 14 on my 4x8gb kit upto 3666mhz. but i have to adjust some voltages besides the memory voltage. but it also runs into a wall when tryin to boot 3866 CL16
to be fair, crosshair boards are the amd version of maximus boards. Strix boards are like one level above the TUF boards. Comparing the strix amd board to the maximus intel board is kinda weak. But I don't know why they would have sent you a strix and not a crosshair, anyways.
Gigabyte should really just make Buildzoid Edition boards to recover some PR lol.
They have been at least somewhat gearing their boards towards Buildzoid recently, at least as far as I can tell, but I'd strongly consider a B550 Master Buildzoid Edition. I don't know how they'd go about making that though, what would they change?
@@ElectroFox77 B550 Tachyon B.Z.E
With the BFG Button, "Buildzoid's Favorite Gimmick"
I would buy it if it had the 400-series heatsinks, but coloured in that iconic Paint™ orange instead of the red on the Z490 G2.
At least Gigabyte did listen to Buildzoid's input on the POST code location. They never put their POST code at the bottom of the last PCI-E slot anymore.
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B550i, 5600x, g skill 3600 c16 gvkc (not bdie). Docp works fine.
Second b550i, 5600g, g skill c16 gvkc and cant even run docp. Best it does is 3400, but can tighten some timings... Will boot slightly over it, but 3500 and 3600 are not bootable (ram or cpu led error)
Would you say it is 5600g or BIOS holding it back?
Is asus rog b550 f gming wifi also bad like this for ram 8x2? I ask before buy...
I think I have a bad ram slot on my dark hero installing 4x16 ram cause whea / random reboots three sticks work fine. I don't understand if its the processor or the board? how to confirm???
Buildzoid - would you prefer strix b550-xe over older b550-e? I broke my b550-e and wanted to buy identical one, but I see that xe is supposedly newer... is it better? Or actually - is it now worse? :D
What ram kit was you using with your b550e? I'm having problems out of mine
I have an ASUS b550f gaming wifi that has a wake from sleep issue. I would enjoy you having a video on why this may be, especially if you have seen it before or know why. Wondering if it is say a voltage controller issue or poorly written UEFI code/CPU microcode. I have the newest non beta UEFI and done all sorts of troubleshooting. Far as I can see it is an oversight from one of the above mentioned.
What's the issue, exactly? I regularly use sleep on B550-E and haven't had any troubles.
@@VargVikernes1488 For me, sometimes when trying to exit sleep, the system will not POST as it were. POST LEDs come on so it is responding but it takes two hard shutdowns to get it back up, it typically halts on boot drive selection no matter how long I wait. If it helps I have a ryzen 5 3600 and amd rx6800. It is a known issue for this board, some reports suggest it isn't sending the correct voltages to components sometimes when it wakes, causing say the NVMe drive to not come back up
@@Frizzy9000 I'm having the same problems sometimes
@@stevestewart3816 Mind if I ask, got the newest BIOS? And what CPU?
Do you have that same MB?
@@Frizzy9000 I have the Asus b550 e-wifi, Ryzen 5 3600. I have the newest bios (not beta).
Hi BZ. Hoping you'll see this and you can drop some knowledge on me. I have a 10850k paired z490 godlike with 10850k and 2x16gb kit of 4266CL16 Bdie (so says thaiphoon), I can get 3866CL14 stable or even 3900, but 4000mhz and higher will not let me into bios regardless of timings.
Is it a board issue? Weak IMC? I need 1.20VCCIO and 1.37VCCSA for 3866CL14. Saw in one of your other vids you said 1.38 was your comfort level for VCCSA 24/7. Any ideas would be helpful if you see this!
I'd Love to see a video on your thoughts on the new amd 1 click cpu & gpu oc in radeon software.. not ryzen master but the adrenalin software tuning tab... Also your not wasting our time my dude were here for the rants and your thoughts on stuff
I'm torn between the B550 Vision D-P and the X570S Aero G. Neither has many standout features that are crucial to me, but I'll be pairing it with a 5900X and unfortunately, 2x16GB 3200-C16 v4.32 C-die Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB. Will upgrade when GPUs become sensibly priced again.
EDIT: Forgot the point: Would like to hear your thoughts on the B550 Vision D-P.
B550 can be just fine. No one would really put 2 volts on the memory. This is no real life experience and useless for every day users.
@@0MeALot0 so I ended up with the Gigabyte X570s Aero and 3600 B-die C16-16-16 which I managed to run at 3800 C16-16-16.
Nice! I would love to see an in depth review of the Dark Hero. Its basically a better Hero, but would like to see in-depth differences
I'm not him, but I can't see him spending a bunch of time on a x570 chipset unless it has something REALLY unique lol.
I have a Dark Hero. It's basically just a Hero WiFi with 90A VRM parts, Dynamic OC Switcher and different aesthetics. Also, Asus didn't even bother to send out a proper manual with it. You have to reference the Hero WiFi Manual online if you want to know anything indepth. They don't even mention Dynamic OC Switcher in the manual *AT ALL*.
@@Ayane13b Dynamic OC Switcher makes it "really unique", or it did at launch. The newer Crosshair VIII Extreme has Dynamic OC Switcher as well.
@@noxious89123 And so do some Gigabyte X570S boards. Hi, also a C8DH owner since early this year. It's a meh board tbf.
@@noxious89123 I don't think the C8F has that, either. At least I don't remember it having one. I was able to easily overclock the piss out of my Patriot Steel Series 4400mhz CL19 2x8 on the C8F (down to 3800 Cl14 @1.5v), but now I'm using a B550F Strix and it's only really able to run exactly the same as what BZ's getting... 4533. With 20-19-19-19 timings
I'm wondering if using the other two dimm slots would make a difference?
I'm struggling to get over 3600mhz with cjr where as my old b350 tomahawk would do 3800mhz with the same kit no problem.
@buildzoid, should I even bother using this at all? light overclocking of cpu gpu(ftw3rtx3070) gskill 3600cl16-16-16-36 and 5900x. just gonna get a cheaper board and shelve this one. steel legend seems like a good way or maybe msi? idk but it'll be cheaper thats for sure. 455 Canadian...
I have a rog strix b550 e gaming. I paired 32 gigs of Trident z RGB ram. I constantly get blue screens with them and have to take them out And put them back in.. I have it over locked to 3200 instead of the 3600 mhz that they are rated for. Still same crashes. What can I do to stop the blue screens.
Edit. Corsair vengeance pro rgb
i must have lucked out on my b550-e or something
im sure theres something janky with my 5800x in terms of thermals
but ive had np pushing my 3200cl14 kit to 3800 cl16
maybe what ur saying is stopping me from hitting 4000 cuz the infinity fabric will run 2000 on my mobo
i just cant get the ram to 4000
im also very new to overclocking and im running those sticks at 3200cl14 cuz i dont trust my OC
when i have more ram sticks and my setup is different in terms of storage drives connected to my PCi think ill try pushing them higher
but im also building PCs again so i expect to have other 5800x and some 5900x 5950x and 5600x to test with
Well, 4800MHz ram speed is sort of useless except for "testing the ram" as most Ryzen cpus can't do over 1900IF stable. My Asus boards does 3800MHz dual rank with both B-die and DJR at 1.4V, so for daily use nothing much to complain about. All my Asus boards(five) has VTTDDR adjustment, all works well for that daily usage. Maybe not the ultimate OC-guru dream boards, but solid consumer boards.
god damn it BZ and I wanted to sleep, oh well
So when are you getting a X570 Dark?
that may depend if EVGA is ok with Buildzoid's "editorial direction", lol.
There is a Zee 590 breakdown, I don't see anything on the AM4 variant.
If you think memory OC sucks on this model, my t-top X370-F Strix is pure suffering. Barely does 3600 with Rev E and loose timings.
Like you said, nobody tests XOC stuff, thats why we watch you :)
Yo. You could try to add a ground layer in that space between the memory and CPU.
How? Use double sided plastic tape for electric isolation and add a copper tape above it and fix/solder a ground on that tape.
Would require some precise cutting. to fit it around the caps.
If you end using multiple strips of copper tape to go around corners and caps make sure that they are making a connection with the strips below. The adhesive on the the tape can work as a electrical isolator and you might need to bight the strips of tape with solder to make a good connection.
You can add a additional layer of normal tape to hide the copper layer.
What's the difference between the B550 ROG Stix XE and the regular E?
yay a rant video
It's a BIOS/UEFI bug. You need to set the desired timings in ALL THREE places, only then will memory OC work reliably. Setting it in any 1 or 2 of the 3 places, and leaving the others on 'auto', will result in occasional (or sometimes, always) boot loops as though the timing was unstable and it's trying to retrain until it fails the third time and drops to the BIOS. You know the failure, you've seen it.
This bug has been in the system since release and has been reported to Asus some years ago.
are you able to resolve the issue which he saying? I will be getting delivery of this board soon so litte worried
@@prajal161 Yes. Just set the primary timings in all three menus. So, primary, secondary and tertiary timings in the normal menu (the Asus OC one), plus, set the primary timings as hex numbers in both of the AMD menus. Even my 4x8GB system goes over 4GHz, this way.
@@pallas_weptthank you for promp reply. I will be receiving it in 2 days.
@@prajal161 Hooray! I hope you enjoy your new computer :)
someone knows where I can buy gigabyte x570si aorus pro ax mini-itx xd?
Hi buildzoid i bought my motherboard in a shop , my b550 tomahawk broke and they reemplaze with a b550 f is pretty basic in everything that includes oc my 3600 at 1.28 works with vdrop in the tomahawk with lcl at Minimum without It , the f i think i am going to use a higher Mode because in level 2 It has a vdrop to 1.264 and i only oc my RAM in this board so i couldnt compare and It also doesnt help that i dont even know what chip it has only that they are micron ( sorry for my english)
So do you recommend this motherboard? I mean im about to burn this sh-
it can handle overclocking?
Do you think 10th gen Intel chips or 11th gen Intel chips are better at overclocking ram
Hey buildzoid, would you ever take NZXT N7 B550 Matte motherboard?
AMD got wall above 1900 fclk, so why bother? Unless you use Cezanne or the previous APU, you can´t get more than 3800MTs anyway.
what about recording a video or stream on trying to finally get rid of whea errors past 1900/3800? it sucks so much because i could daily 2033/4066.
The reason nobody makes those videos is because there's no way to prevent it from happening
@@noreng9333 it seems so unfortunately.
Yeah, I got stable 4000 MHz, but with constant WHEAs, too.
I'd be interested if cap modding the SOC rail helps
maybe adding a second can between the DIMMs and CPU, I recall that mattered back in x370 days, so may be part of it, yet them exposed traces will wreck any gains ye probably can get out of cap-mods, lol. I recall a lot of the x470 boards having 2 cans there, and I guess ASUS couldn't be bothered to do that, lol.
I do second the curiosity of if it will do anything.
@@Zarcondeegrissom If you look at the X570 Aorus Master , V1.0 vs V1.2 . The V1.0 has 2 cans between DIMM and CPU , V1.2 has no cans at all. However the V1.2 overclocks RAM far better than V1.0 . It think it has to be something else that matter but not the cans.
@@fleurdewin7958 yeah x570 is different from x370 and x470 (dif topologies of traces as well). my thought was it's not 2 or none, they couldn't be bothered to add the second can, lol. they had that little give a damn about the memory.
Hey does anybody know how bad it would be to only have Single Channel Ram, two dimms? (Cpu broken). How much performance would I loose on the 5600x (gonna oc the ram to my personal max ofc)
BZ did you ever get one of those Z590 OC formula boards?
they never went properly retail in the UK
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking big oof.
I've got x570 strix-e and it does not report VDDR voltage in HWInfo :D Same for vrm temps
Did what you said and now my cpu never goes above 60 degrees with my 4080. Thank you!
thanks for doing this video. got this and am now sad i did. even mad cuz the memory. thx man
LOL my old b450 Aorus Pro with 5600G does 4x8GB b-die at 4000 cl16-16-16 EZ... That's sad to see from such a good mboard, so i guess it must be very good at something else then, and that's probably the pci-e side where you can use the second pci-e x8 slot for additional 2 m.2 nvmes, and of course for SLI, so it's still a very good mboard, just they should point that it's mediocre at 4x8 ram speeds!
4x8 on the Steel Legend is happy up to 4200
Maybe new bioses helped. procODT 43,6 RTTs 7/2/1 CAD 60-20-30-30. My record for 2x16 is 4266*101 ish but idk the settings anymore
Interesting how 4x8 tends to overclock almost the same as 2x16 on these new daisy chan layouts... Apparently memory controller doesn't care, because both are dual rank configuration, but it's good to know that 4x8 is still viable option on daisy chan, because it's easier to buy 2 kits of 2x8, like Buildzoid did many times
its not to much people that lucky go more then 4000 on ryzen, i have E version, its same board, i use 4x8 b-die 3600 cl14 , its can go 3800 cl14 , also was disappointed about 1.8 max voltage,
im waiting for this review, thanks 🍻👍🏻
it's useless anyways since you get whea errors past if1900.
Does this flaw effect even the Asus Dark Hero? There main premium board?
I suspect yes but I don't have a Dark Hero to check.
Not sure it's a flaw, since you won't need more than 4000 MHz on RAM due to IF, unless you're actually doing some competitive OC.
could you do rog strix x570-e or f?
Buildzoid wanna make an entire review of New confusing EVGA x570?
Ive got 2 sets of trident z 3200cl14 2×8 on a b550 steel legend and ive got Ryzen 5900x
How much can i overclock the ram and gain fps in games?
Btw the ram is b-die for sure
I have exactly same kits ( one is RGB, other non RGB )... But on b550 tomahawk with R5 3600, I managed to do 3800 c14 at 1:1 fclk and mclk easily... And for stability and less voltage, I'm on 3733 c14... But on Steel legend, I don't know, it's 4 layer PCB, but solid for overclock, BZ has video of overclock on that board...
More than 1900 MHz IF seems to be unstable on most Zen 3, so get the most out of 3800 MHz on RAM
@@nenadmilosevic661 ive seen that but i have 4 sticks and didnt manage to oc them on r5 3600
Now im changing to r9 5900x
Is there any hope?or i should change my ram to a xmp 3800?
I'm literally fighting with the b550f as we speak (it was on sale.....)
Theres def bios issues on the strix f re memory performance. I dunno if it's the same on the xe
@@christopherjackson2157 I think it's entirely down to the PCB.
What issues are you having? Also got the B550f since release (ASUS had a cashback promotion back then). Running 2x8GB 3200 C14 at 3800 C14 @1.5V rn.
@@-eMpTy- regressions with newer bios versions
I would think that it would be a better practice for a company that makes millions of dollars to send products to the people who are most critical and do a good job so those critics start to praise your work.
Would putting lead foil over traces on top of the pcb improve performance.
He tried that on a stream (well, copper, not lead), it made it worse
After update bios, is it better???
So maybe that VRM fan i never knew about is what causes the annoying whine i always here? Actually one of the reasons for choosing this over an X570 was the chipset fan on the X570! Im new to RAM OC. I was actually pretty happy that i got PC3600 to run at PC3800 15-15-15-36. Was wondering how others got to much higher. Luckily im planning on replacing this soon.
what about the Crosshair VIII Dark Hero x570? I would like to watch you reviewing it : BTW I like to watch your reviews and you deserve more subs.
get ASUS to send one because I'm not paying 400GBP to try find out if there's such a thing as a great 4 DIMM ASUS board on AM4.
Your funny as hell "They dont send me free stuff, and I dont care!!!" this is why I watch you lol you give it str8 thanks bro
I prefer MSI boards but it's personal preference. I like it because the bios is easy to understand and bios updates are very easy to make.
i bought g skill trident z ddr4 2x8 gig 4266mhz and managed it work on 4000mhz on my maximus XI hero don't know how to make it work on 4266mhz ...help ZzzzZZz
cpu?
Bring the pcb breakdown of the X570s Aorus Master ASAP please !
I have an Asus x570 Dark Hero, 4x8 Patriot 4400 cl19, 5950x cpu. The max I could get 3800 cl16-15-15-32 1T. With 2 sticks 4200 cl19 and WHEA errors... I'm so disappointed by the Dark Hero...Also I have some random stuttering happening from time to time. I have an Asus monitor, GPU and I'm very satisfied with it but the motherboard memory overclock is not near what they write in the board specs...
I remember seeing some hacked nvidia drivers that allowed SLI on every mobo
they don't use the SLI bridge and there's a bit of performance penalty with them.
I dont understand the Problem, because the max Support for am4 is 3800mhz, everything else makes no Sense and has No Further worth. That says even der8auer. You have no Advantage to run the RAM at 4500 or Higher. To do Something Just because you CAN do it, without added value, is stupid. But I can understand the Problem and other Boards do better and mostly cheaper.
Hey BZ. Are you interested in further increasing your R9 290X collection? I have an ASUS DirectCUII that I wanna replace with a similar performing card that allows 0db mode (I'm a bit of a silence freak and recently managed to get everything else to be quiet enough to make this card by far the loudest component).
It's had an easy life (was running an FX6300 that made gaming frustrating enough that I rarely bothered and when I did, was usually CPU limited games (city builders/strategy) and was an RMA for a 290 that died. I don't know how good it is at overclocking, I had no need to bother investing the time to fiddle with it (but as it was so close to end of production, likely to be at least be Okay)..
I'm also British so postage should be pretty cheap, would chuck some cash to make fair price if you have a suitable 6GB Maxwell card. Otherwise I gotta faff about on eBay, being unemployed I'm hesitant to run the risk of bad deal(s).
I'm a Brit whos's collecting old hardware to overclock what do you think is a resonable price for your card icluding postage?
@@devilchild8811 Hey.
I'm only offering to BZ because he'd likely have something suitable I can Part-ex this for and I'd trust it'll work alright.
Otherwise, eBay's likely a better bet.
Besides, you just insulted me by calling this "old hardware" ;-)
@@ChrispyNut older not old 😉 and if BZ doesn't want it I'm offering to pay a fair price without having to go through ebay. I'll friends and family PayPal you the cash. The offer is there if BZ doesn't have it.
I run on Asus B550 4000MHz Ram (2x16 sticks) with 2000 FCLK, so its running 1:1:1, RAM is good and old Crucial Ballistix Sport 3000, MB is cheap Asus Prime B550 plus, CPU is ryzen 5 5600X. if Im not mistaken, beeing able to run this is quite rare I guess? But so far couldnt get it completely memtest stable(18-14-20-14-40-60_582), so for daily use I went back to memtest stable 3800MHz (16-12-19-12-34_553).
Micron ICs are a lot easier to run at high clocks than Samsung B-die
Youre right, I kind of ignored that fact, my fault😅 and yeah...I never owned any Samsung B Die, so I have no experience (I would like to, but its so expensive;)
Hi BZ!
I have a MSI B550-A pro that can do 4266 on a 2x16 micron rev-e.
Recently I bought 4x8 samsung b-die, and my board cant even post 3800 with any timings. Even 3733 boots only after many failed memory training attempts.
Is that behaviour expected for my board?
15:14 That's a heavy mobo
I should give my X470 prime pro a go with some dual rank b-die kits... That thing dailied 3733 without a fuss... And I also have a B550-A pro which was also perfectly fine running 3866 with normal timings on the same dual rank kit (4000 was doable but the timings went to shit) and costs 100 quid.
my partner's x470 prime pro did run 3200cl12 daily with 2x8 4400c19 viper steel. i was impressed
b550 unify x, not getting mentioned once: sad vrm and ram oc noises
What really triggered me was BZ leaving this single thermal pad on the VRM. xD
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The XE does have terrible value, I agree, however, interpret that as you wish, it does come bundled with a $100 Asus Hyper M.2 x16 Gen 4 card. Actually, I guess you know that since you bought one...?
I can totally agree with Zoid here. I bought this exact board for my new Ryzen 5000 build with all the extras and goodies. I cant get past 3800MHz on 2x8 GSkill BDie 14-15-15-35 @ 1.45
My old Crosshair VIII Hero Wifi board was difficult to get over 4466. If I manually set my Terminations I was able to boot up to 4533. I always thought it was my CPU having a weak IMC. Can't wait to get the X570 Dark and play with my 5950X and 3950X again!
I got this board for about £140 (from 220 with discount and cashback), honestly cant complain for what i paid
according to the manual of the board, memory frequency can go up to 4866... so for most people this board will do juste fine i'd say...
on ICs that do 5000+ on other boards.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking oh ok. Could you explain I don’t understand 😅
@@Mathieu3424 Some memory chips are easier to clock high than others. Right now for AMD the easiest ICs are micron revB and on good boards those do 4933-5100. The sticks I tested the strix with are sticks that max out around 4666-4933 on good boards.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking ic as integrated circuit ? So this issue will be important to hardcore overclocker, I understand. I assume I’ll be ok with my 3200 ram xD
aww fk I didn't see this video and I bought the rog strix b550-a gaming, struggling with OC my micron e-die. I got 3533 16-19-17-35-56 with my crucial stick, xpm is 3000 15-16--16-35-69. It's not bad, but I'm pretty sure the chips can do better. The procODT keeps setting to 36.9 which I think is really low. It's stable with it manually set to 40ohm. I guess this is a sign that I should save some money for another mobo and maybe some better ram chips. This ram speed is way better than I got on my r7 1700x though, so I'm still happy with the upgrade.
I want to build my first pc but you have made me question everything in a good way . I keep changing what i want cause I see the points you make.
I did a lot of that, but that was before I found out about AHOC. I built my first PC in the beginning of April, when the tariffs on cases and power supplies were crazy high. I ended up with a Bitfenix Whisper 850w, which has actually proven to be quite solid, other then that I had a i7 3960x, which I had... Mixed feelings for... And a Vega 56 that I was able to unlock an extra couple of CUs on, I got that card for $240 on eBay, which isn't possible anymore. RIP MSRPs.
Oh, and by "Quite solid" I mean I've taken it up to about 920w with Crossfire Vega 56s and an overclocked Ivy Bridge Xeon, the 2697 v2, it was only temporary, but it took the load. Now it's my test bench PSU because my only other power supply is an OEM HP unit that I don't want touching anything that draws a lot of power.
I have a asus x570 tuf, this might help me push the memory overclock higher
every single board i ever had from them was dogshit and i still have the z590 apex in the box because it could not for the life of it boot 2x16 bdie at xmp not my 4000 c17 kit and certainly not my 4266 c18 kit, both of these run on 4500 18 19 19 28 320 65000 on z490 dark kp btw, so the problem is not the sticks.
Now I feel better not achieving 3733 with my Micron 3200 ECC stick.
I picked up a Asus x570 dark hero. It's my single regret for my new pc.
I can hit 4000mHz with 2x16 DR DJR on my asus tuf B550m plus, this is embarrassing
I wouldn't have bought an asus Z490-I if it wasn't the only board with a temp sensor header and the fact I could only get my hands on a 3070 tuf.
mine is asus tuf b550 much even worse.. I cant even oc my ram even a little bit oc.. no luck no boot garbage
Oooff I could pull 4000MHz on my X570 (X570S Aorus Master) w/ 5950X and the X570 isn't as good at memory oc as the B550.
X570S is the same topology as the b550. The big difference is in the bclk oc not in the memory ratio itself.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Yep I was meaning I have found the B550s to be better at it overall because they don't freak out when you modify the bclk so it gives a few more leavers and buttons for hitting higher oc's
I have the Asus x570 gaming e wifi and ram oc is a complete joke! I can barely run cjr at 4×8 3600 cl19 at all
I have this board, over the past 30 years of enthusiast PC building, this is without doubt the most reliable board I've had. It just works.
But, I'm just running a 5800X and Ballistix 3800 at stock speeds.
I have the rog b550-e, this board has made me hate Asus. 0d post code on cold boot which makes zero sense, no clear cmos button, lack of usb ports(seriously pathetic), the shittiest memory oc(i am on dual rank b-die) and the inability to set rgb profiles in the bios(that armory crate app is shite) are just some of the things that drove me nuts. Ordered the new X570S Carbon Max WiFi, i am done with this Asus crap.
Damn, doesn't seem like a great value. The B550-XE is 300€ where i live lol
why should anyone care about 4600 on ryzen?
Geekbench memory scores.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Oh right so absolutely no reason. Get some sun bro lol. : )
I paid the same amount for my x570 Meg unify as this board retails for 😶
Lucky
TLDW: Mid tier motherboard doesn't handle high speed memory clocks.