Rogue's Legion REWORK (full Patch notes, buffs, nerfs)

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
  • #dbd #deadbydaylight #legionmain
    This is my first scripted video EVER and I'm dreading the moment I'll need to do it again for the Legion guide.
    I would love to see changes like these hit live, and Legion is in dire need of something to keep being viable with how DBD shifted in the last 3 years!

Комментарии • 56

  • @captainhypdoz
    @captainhypdoz 3 месяца назад +9

    Your mic is really bad, i cannot hear what you're saying.

  • @TheAtb85
    @TheAtb85 3 месяца назад +4

    Buff: all mix tapes are now polka

  • @alcatraz8694
    @alcatraz8694 3 месяца назад +3

    you gotta fix the filters of your mic, its imposible to hear you

  • @Neuroaktivo
    @Neuroaktivo 3 месяца назад +12

    Audio is horrendous

    • @cornmoss638
      @cornmoss638 3 месяца назад +1

      Sounds like a mosquito floating by your ear when you are trying to sleep

    • @dokuujin1851
      @dokuujin1851 3 месяца назад

      yeah... i'd like to watch the video but the audio is a big selling point, and I dont generally care about audio that much. It's BAD bad. Some one get this woman a cheap desk mic... Hyper X Solo Cast is only like $50 USD and sounds better than 99% of headset mics.

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад +1

      While I receive this feedback from time to time and I do plan on getting a new mic, most people commenting seem to hear me fine, and I rewatched the video from my car speakers and could still hear it well... i think I will run a poll at this point, cause we seem to hear all different things

    • @w.o.jackson8432
      @w.o.jackson8432 3 месяца назад +2

      @@rogueroentgen The mic quality isn't necessarily an issue (people have recorded with total potato mics from 30 years ago and you can understand every word of it) but perhaps the way you are speaking into the mic. It sounds like it almost entirely cuts out frequently. One way to fix it in post is to use a compressor tool (like in audacity) which will limit the dynamic range (quiet becomes louder, louder becomes quieter)

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад

      I will take this into account when setting a new mic (which is coming)!

  • @faded7217
    @faded7217 3 месяца назад +1

    i like the rework. it's actually interesting how we have different ideas for buffing legion's power. you decided to buff the movement speed of frenzy, and I honestly haven't thought of that. the 3 main changes I would've made would have been to buff frenzy duration by 5 seconds, buff the mischief list to extend the duration of frenzy by 5 seconds, and make scratchmarks and bloodpools visible during frenzy. that way you have a 15 second frenzy basekit, a 20 second frenzy with mischief list, and a 30 second frenzy with never-sleep pills. but you know me, the main reason I want to buff it this way is because I want to get higher scores with the never-sleep pills and bffs combo.
    Also, I really love the idea of the filthy blade change and making frank's mixtape basekit. those two are probably my favorite part of the rework

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад

      yes, the other way was making frenzy longer.
      There is a couple of considerations to be made about it, tho. Buffing durations is a dangerous path: first of all, increasing speed allows for more counterplay even just as 360s or jukes from the survivors, since Frenzy's lunge is quite long in time (0.5 seconds) while enhancing duration makes for an almost guaranteed hit.
      I think it's also funnier to play a faster killer either then a killer that retains their power for longer - which is my personal reason - but there's also an objective one: as it stands, it takes 40-ish seconds for legion to get a frenzy down, when it happens, clean of cooldown, pickup and carrying to hook. That is the duration of a normal chase, and it's not uncommon to lose games where you get multiple frenzy downs because, albeit almost uncounterable, it's still a lenghty process.
      By making frenzy speed faster, I don't want to make frenzy down more common, but the killer to be more versatile - the opposite would have been true for increased duration

    • @faded7217
      @faded7217 3 месяца назад

      yeah, i agree, an increased movement speed would make them more versatile and more fun

  • @commodorex
    @commodorex 3 месяца назад

    Hello! I have some constructive criticism regarding your microphone issues, unlike most here I actually know what the core issues are and have some advice for you to solve them:
    1. The microphone's receiving end is not aimed at your mouth properly, it sounds as though it's aimed _above._ The end result is varying volume when speaking, but this can be fixed by simply adjusting the microphone (If it is a headset microphone as I suspect, I would recommend bringing it down to between your bottom lip and your chin for example) You could also apply a compressor filter to _assist_ the issue, though without physical readjustment it may be tougher.
    2. Your voice wavers and is uneasy, this is perfectly fine! You're new to scripting videos, but it's good to take more attempts and have more breaks between sentences and then cut out the dead-space and errors in post. I would recommend writing down 2-3 sentence "groups", practice repeating them until it feels natural, then try to say it from memory before moving on to the next segment. This will make the audio sound more natural and appealing to more people. (It's optional but advised)
    3. Your microphone volume is low, surprisingly low. Many users keep their videos' volumes at about 70 when wearing headphones, some even lower, to these people your microphone will sound _way_ worse than it actually is because only the loud peaks will come through, which is when audio sounds its worse. Try raising the actual volume your microphone reads at while recording, adjusting gain in post will feel a lot weirder with such a shift.
    I would recommend using OBS to monitor your volume _while_ you record, it has built-in filters like gain, compressors, etc. As for volume, try to balance it so when you talk it's in the yellow-range (I'd try to keep it close to the edge of green & yellow if possible, to prevent accidental peaking)
    Technical advice aside, I quite liked this video!

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад

      Thank you so much for the feedback! My biggest issue with this mic is that it is already at max volume on system, plus 80 on my software, plus it is further enhanced on voicemeeter and it still sounds this low. I decided to buy a desk mic because I'm afraid as much as I can try to fix the issues with this one I'm afraid there is something broken on software level (some of my friends told me it sounds worse now than before).
      I am working on my pronunciation and how my tone goes up and down in general (sadly that s on me), but even with the new mic I will treasure your advice and use it to set it!
      I hope my next videos will be more enjoyable!

  • @emerald4572
    @emerald4572 3 месяца назад

    That's crazy cuz I myself was thinking about how a legion rework would turn out. I feel like BHVR just thinks their addons are what makes them work which is why barely any real reworks on them are almost nonexistent which, it obviously can but there's a lot of lost potential if that's the case.
    For your rework I actually like the idea of your Mural Sketch, pertaining to the Legion's original concept. The filthy blade addon, I think bamboozle on an addon could work but for filthy blade, I feel there's something else that can be done. The reason for bloodpools and scratchmarks in frenzy not appearing is (in my opinion) probably because of the thought that, you're in an insane bloodlust state for stabbing that you wouldn't pay attention to minor details like that... probably. For your Frank's mixtape I have another idea that may or may not be overkill but I actually wanna know your thoughts on my rework (if you cared)
    I think I would definitely take up that new speed of 5.8 because you get killers like blight and hillbilly doing stuff like that even if their power takes time to use.
    Legion should have an exclusive deep wound status effect (as a type of counterplay to body blocking and such since legion's collision is all sorts of messed up things) but ideas for it are kinda weird, maybe getting hit twice by a feral slash makes the timer run down while in chase? Pretty foggy idea but there has to be a way around it.
    Legion's terror radius increases during 3rd and 4th slash (pertaining to your idea of the 5th hit giving a signal that it will down anyone)
    I wouldn't change too much with it's base kit because I'm thinking of this realistically, I don't think BHVR will give two damns about most things I'd want but these are probably the most likely if they were to rework the killer
    For addons, I would like to change the mixtapes really but a few extra:
    Joey's mixtape should get a rework and give it like, an undetectable effect during frenzy and be able to see killer instinct even with the effect (going more with Joey's more "nondescript" take on The Legion)
    Julie's mixtape, probably your idea actually of replenishing the power there's a stun state
    Frank's mixtape should make it so that if you kick a gen or break a wall while in frenzy, your power is refilled giving you as much time as you'd want in frenzy as many times you break something (which I feel is fitting for a purple addon)
    Susie's mixtape, ehhhh... maybe take the amount of hits or something... not sure...
    Pills should maybe be, not being able to down in frenzy but you can stab all day everyday lol. I just wanna frenzy forever, even while carrying survivors.
    BFFs should make the speed boost to 10%, my reasoning is because you essentially have to be losing to earn value off this addon, and it would allow you to swap NOED with another useful perk instead, but if that wouldn't sit well I would suggest doing something about it changing legion's base speed DURING the match, not endgame only.
    Filthy Blade could possibly have a token system like BFFs, (every feral vault, pallet vault and stab increases it by like, 1 to 2 maybe making it filthier lol) where up to a max of xy tokens, x token = this and that, maybe status effect seconds like hindered and exhausted or something.
    Overall I dont exactly want the legion to be TOO overpowered, I just want them to be enjoyable to play as. I honestly am thinking about reworking the power entirely if I cared enough about the survivor side. People who complain about legion (who don't have a big skill issue) probably don't like the power being a hit and run. They basically use your body like some 'stitute in an alley for their power, and leave making legion a bit of a pest more than a killer (at least in my opinion). But yeah that's my take. prolly got more, maybe

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад +1

      Legion could see bloodpools on release, the reason why they removed it was exactly because you could (with the right addon) take off a part of the mending timer while hitting the survivor in frenzy multiple time. It was EXTREMELY unfun - but since that possibility does not exist anymore, there is no reason for Legion to keep having this detriment.

    • @emerald4572
      @emerald4572 3 месяца назад

      im curious now, what do you think of a laceration mechanic on legion (similar to trickster)

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад +1

      I don't think it would work well as a concept but if you have a specific idea for it i m all ears!

  • @Majima323
    @Majima323 3 месяца назад

    I really would like that change for Filthy Blade to have some sort of anti-loop for Legion. I did like your changes 🙂

  • @Dreads-b3j
    @Dreads-b3j 3 месяца назад

    Sometimes she sounds very high and very low

  • @snett2771
    @snett2771 3 месяца назад

    The only reason I really liked legion was just because I Wanted To play a bad killer listen to music and just have Actual fun at the game It was always more just a comfort killer so I could take a break from my actual name

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад

      I 100% approve of this use of legion and I think a rework like this would make that even more fun!

    • @snett2771
      @snett2771 3 месяца назад

      @@rogueroentgen I also just Connect with the fact that they only Canadian killer as to my knowledge

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад +1

      @@snett2771 we could argue some claudettes are equally killers too :|

    • @snett2771
      @snett2771 3 месяца назад

      @@rogueroentgen for real lol

  • @kittymyths1208
    @kittymyths1208 3 месяца назад

    I would remove both the pills and mischief if his power durarion was increased by 5 extra seconds. Cuz let's be real, 10 seconds is not enough on most maps, even with the buffed speed

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад

      yes but it's not meant to be enough! fifth hit should stay a rare occurrence imho

    • @kittymyths1208
      @kittymyths1208 3 месяца назад

      ​@@rogueroentgenit's the best part of his power ;w;

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад

      @@kittymyths1208 it is! It s the funniest part, but we need to enjoy it in moderation :(

  • @Elutai
    @Elutai 3 месяца назад

    so your reasoning for making legion stronger is because a good 4 man can play against him?

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад

      Where did I even mention a good 4 man?

  • @KiTho06
    @KiTho06 3 месяца назад

    You really need to work on your Audio.
    It's hard to listen to this.

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад

      While I receive this feedback from time to time and I do plan on getting a new mic, most people commenting seem to hear me fine, and I rewatched the video from my car speakers and could still hear it well... i think I will run a poll at this point, cause we seem to hear all different things

    • @KiTho06
      @KiTho06 3 месяца назад

      @@rogueroentgen im Sorry, I didn’t mean to insult you.
      Though if you’re planning on getting a Better Mic anyway why run a Poll ?
      Sorry if i hurt you in any way it was not my intention. I just wanted to give some constructive criticism.
      Have a good day :)

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад

      @@KiTho06 no offense taken! It will take a while to get it, and I want to know if I can do something meanwhile to improve my current audio by changing some setting or tinkering with voicemeeter, which I already use. That is why I ran the poll! Cause these are the settings I also use to communicate through discord and I have had no problem there either, so i wanna identify the source of the problem since i m not sure it s the mic itself

  • @Victor-qs5ny
    @Victor-qs5ny 3 месяца назад

    in this patch 8.0.0 ? is this rework ?

    • @kittymyths1208
      @kittymyths1208 3 месяца назад +2

      This is just an idea for a rework, not something BHVR is actually planning to do sadly :c

    • @Victor-qs5ny
      @Victor-qs5ny 3 месяца назад

      @@kittymyths1208 I knew, I just wrote it for the algorithm :)

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад

      I wish T:T

  • @AsianKriss
    @AsianKriss 3 месяца назад +1

    🍩

  • @raccoon.legion
    @raccoon.legion 3 месяца назад

    Legion goes from an amazing noob stomper to the noob being stomped the instant a player has more than 5 hours in the game, their kit is shite against anyone who just stays away and I still feel the power should work on a token system so that after 6 stabs your 7th is an insta down as opposed to 4, this would mean that 2 man or 3 man stabs arent completely useless like they currently are

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад

      hitting 6 chain hits... kinda of extremely rare? How would that even work?

    • @faded7217
      @faded7217 3 месяца назад

      i think they mean a token counter similar to how the bffs add-on works, meaning you wouldn't need 6 chain hits in 1 frenzy. instead you could have 2 chain hits during 3 frenzies, or 3 during 2 frenzies, and be rewarded with an insta kill

    • @raccoon.legion
      @raccoon.legion 3 месяца назад

      @@faded7217 exactly

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад

      Ohh that's an original idea! I would love to try that in a ptb honestly

    • @raccoon.legion
      @raccoon.legion 3 месяца назад

      @@rogueroentgen Thank you thank you, I feel like it would make them more rewarding to play as a Legion main myself

  • @faded7217
    @faded7217 3 месяца назад +3

    i love how this rework is an indirect nerf to pig 💀

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад

      how xD

    • @snett2771
      @snett2771 3 месяца назад

      Nerf pig

    • @faded7217
      @faded7217 3 месяца назад

      oblivious counting as inside your terror radius nerfs stinky trap shenanigans with hex face the darkness (you can crouch of course, but it's funny to say that it nerfs pig)

    • @rogueroentgen
      @rogueroentgen  3 месяца назад

      Oh this would be ONLY for legion. Every killer has its own rules on how oblivious interact with their power!