Never did I think I'd see anything about the Stal-6. Excellent video all around. I recall first reading about this strange aircraft and its designer, in Aircraft of the Soviet Union. A now rather old book written by Bill Gunston
Cool plane. Bartini was one of the most innovative (not to say eccentric) designers. Right up there with the fellows at Blohm und Voss. This plane really reminds me of some of the other “speed is everything” designs if the period - switch the single wheel for a float and it could be. Schneider Trophy racer a la Supermarine, Macchi et al.
To note, the well-regarded Argentinian football manager ('soccer' to you rebels) Marcelo Bielsa sits on a bucket during a game. When asked about his unusual habit early in his time at Leeds, Bielsa replied: "You want me to tell you more than what it is?” he said. “It's just a bucket. “I have nothing to add. It's a comfortable bucket.”
Soviet aviation was highly innovative and interesting. Too bad there is so little information available after the archives were closed down again, after having been briefly open after the fall of the Soviet Union.
Funnily enough, the video I watched before this was about Bartini's ekranoplan designs. You video gives a lot more biographical details - never realised he'd had such an interesting life!
Yeah, same. Though mine never said that but loudly considered the possibility. But I'm just as stubborn as him, soooo that's settled then Ismerős. Bár az enyém nem mondta, de hangosan már megkérdőjelezte. Viszont legalább annyira makacs tudok lenni mint ő teháááát, ez eldőlt😂
The Sovjet Union had a very strange relationship with EVERYONE during their life, far too often ending said life. Usually through starvation or worked to death in a "re-education camp". But one has to admit, they did produce some really interesting planes.
For some reason the name STAL doesnt evoke confidence in an aircraft. However the "Spirit of St. Louis" didnt have forward view at all, Lindburg only jad a periscope for looking forward over the engine. Not sure if that inspires confidence either.. lol
I'm glad someone else mentioned this. Lacking visibility isn't that odd in a research aircraft. There have been other, production combat aircraft that have absolutely horrible fwd visibility in the name of speed, the 50's era supersonic interceptors come to mind. Pilots could barely see out the tiny heavily framed canopies and over their noses enough to land.
"blind" part isn't unique to this plane. A lot of aircraft of that era were built build like that. Lindbergh flew one over Atlantic, Messerschmitt build number of very successful tourist planes etc. Entire Stall series of Soviet aircraft was amazing due to number of ideas tested. Some were successful but most failed . It was mostly an attempt to build aircraft using readily available steel industry in time before Soviet Union got it's own aluminum production going (that in itself is a very interesting topic).
Bartini did not work on the Caspian Sea Monster, though he did design a few of his own Ekranoplans. The Caspian Sean Monster was made by Rostislav Alexeyev
His Yer-2 had been the basis of the later works on the ekranoplans. The ground effect between the inverted seagull wings and the soil allowed it to take-off with incredible overloads for a twin engine bomber.
Not sure what you are on about with regard to the British evaporative cooled engine🤔 Whilst the Rolls Royce Goshawk (originally called the Kestrel S) was a complete flop, the deign did not put "the radiators with the engine", though I think some aircraft manufacturers took this approach. If you take a look at the Supermarine fighter designs which were designed to use this engine, it can be seen that they were very streamlined for the time. One good thing that did come from the Goshawk was that the approach R. J. Mitchell took to implementing the cooling system. From his work designing wing surface radiator systems for the Schneider Trophy racers, he had determined that the greatest rate of heat dissipation occurred at the wing leading edges. Based on this he came up with the idea of constructing a single spar wing, with a D section leading edge, torsion box spar, containing the steam condenser. Eventually, Mitchell and Supermarine gave up on trying to use the Goshawk and moved to the Merlin, retaining the same wing structure to design the Spitfire!
It did look like it would evolve as the Schneider Cup racers would - like the Supermarine and Curtis designs did. The compromises for these racers would have never been suitable for a fighter so of course they would get glycol radiators and weapons, soon armor and sealing gas tanks… Supermarine and Curtis learned from the racers and made great dedicated fighters, but they weren’t merely conversions. I couldn’t post a comment so I tagged onto a similar comment. Thanks for the coattails!
I wouldn't think a bucket would be tall enough to practically use at a desk, but maybe you don't sit at a desk when recording. I would suggest getting a welded aluminum chair as they're extremely stable and non-squeaky. I've got an old one that I stole from my dad, it's 50 or 60 years old, and it's still a great chair.
Hey, I've really been enjoying your videos recently, featuring some of my favourite plane designs. As you do talk about german planes quite frequently, I was wondering wether you could use some help with sources, as I am a native speaker. Anyways, thanks for the very enjoyable content!
This design reminds me of the "Europa" homebuilt that came out around the early 1990s in the UK. I almost bought one. Wish I had. Sorry about your bucket. 😒
The plane likely would've had to have a 2 wheel landing gear. With the added weight of guns, ammo and amour plus the unpaved fields Russians operated from the unicycle wouldn't work.
I'm not sure where the unicycling bear joke originated. Sounds like a pro-Russian joke because how would vodka and a unicycle mix? You wouldn't be staying upright worth a crap.
Nice video. I never even heard of that plane
i hope you have heard about Bartini
Always good content, keeps getting better. I do have an extra bucket or I can send you a proper chair if I knew
I meant build you one
Never did I think I'd see anything about the Stal-6.
Excellent video all around.
I recall first reading about this strange aircraft and its designer, in Aircraft of the Soviet Union. A now rather old book written by Bill Gunston
You know what they say... Can't make a good video without a bucket!
Cool plane. Bartini was one of the most innovative (not to say eccentric) designers. Right up there with the fellows at Blohm und Voss. This plane really reminds me of some of the other “speed is everything” designs if the period - switch the single wheel for a float and it could be. Schneider Trophy racer a la Supermarine, Macchi et al.
One month on the bucket, now that's dedication!
To note, the well-regarded Argentinian football manager ('soccer' to you rebels) Marcelo Bielsa sits on a bucket during a game.
When asked about his unusual habit early in his time at Leeds, Bielsa replied: "You want me to tell you more than what it is?” he said. “It's just a bucket.
“I have nothing to add. It's a comfortable bucket.”
3:48 It could also be that the Soviet Union had a strange relationship with him (as with many other people...)
Soviet aviation was highly innovative and interesting. Too bad there is so little information available after the archives were closed down again, after having been briefly open after the fall of the Soviet Union.
Funnily enough, the video I watched before this was about Bartini's ekranoplan designs.
You video gives a lot more biographical details - never realised he'd had such an interesting life!
I like how he dances around the writing, just so he doesn't have to say "the need for speed" in the opening premise of the video.
Hardcore research , Great work !
I work with a Supermarine S6a, there's a lot of similarities here.
That's the first thing I thought of when I saw that nose!
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Seems the Russians were aware of the Supermarine and Macci who used the wings as radiators...plus, in their case the floats as well.
1:52 average hungarian dad lol
Im hungarian im allowed to say this
Yeah, same. Though mine never said that but loudly considered the possibility. But I'm just as stubborn as him, soooo that's settled then
Ismerős. Bár az enyém nem mondta, de hangosan már megkérdőjelezte. Viszont legalább annyira makacs tudok lenni mint ő teháááát, ez eldőlt😂
Thanks for all of your research ans your excellent video 👍
Shoe🇺🇸
Didn't know this aircraft. URSS certainly has its collection of weird ships.
Crazy stuff. Good on Ya. Luv from the UK. 👊💛👍
The Sovjet Union had a very strange relationship with EVERYONE during their life, far too often ending said life. Usually through starvation or worked to death in a "re-education camp".
But one has to admit, they did produce some really interesting planes.
For some reason the name STAL doesnt evoke confidence in an aircraft. However the "Spirit of St. Louis" didnt have forward view at all, Lindburg only jad a periscope for looking forward over the engine. Not sure if that inspires confidence either.. lol
I'm glad someone else mentioned this. Lacking visibility isn't that odd in a research aircraft.
There have been other, production combat aircraft that have absolutely horrible fwd visibility in the name of speed, the 50's era supersonic interceptors come to mind. Pilots could barely see out the tiny heavily framed canopies and over their noses enough to land.
The John Cena of planes
I feel the need...
"blind" part isn't unique to this plane. A lot of aircraft of that era were built build like that. Lindbergh flew one over Atlantic, Messerschmitt build number of very successful tourist planes etc.
Entire Stall series of Soviet aircraft was amazing due to number of ideas tested. Some were successful but most failed . It was mostly an attempt to build aircraft using readily available steel industry in time before Soviet Union got it's own aluminum production going (that in itself is a very interesting topic).
...the selfsame Bartini of the "Ekranoplan" (sp?) or Caspian Sea monster!
Bartini did not work on the Caspian Sea Monster, though he did design a few of his own Ekranoplans. The Caspian Sean Monster was made by Rostislav Alexeyev
@@Oddtooth Mea culpa, but it was his work that inspired the development of the later beast.
His Yer-2 had been the basis of the later works on the ekranoplans. The ground effect between the inverted seagull wings and the soil allowed it to take-off with incredible overloads for a twin engine bomber.
4:04 отдел опытного самолётомтроения
Experimental aircrafts research(building) facility
Not sure what you are on about with regard to the British evaporative cooled engine🤔 Whilst the Rolls Royce Goshawk (originally called the Kestrel S) was a complete flop, the deign did not put "the radiators with the engine", though I think some aircraft manufacturers took this approach. If you take a look at the Supermarine fighter designs which were designed to use this engine, it can be seen that they were very streamlined for the time. One good thing that did come from the Goshawk was that the approach R. J. Mitchell took to implementing the cooling system. From his work designing wing surface radiator systems for the Schneider Trophy racers, he had determined that the greatest rate of heat dissipation occurred at the wing leading edges. Based on this he came up with the idea of constructing a single spar wing, with a D section leading edge, torsion box spar, containing the steam condenser. Eventually, Mitchell and Supermarine gave up on trying to use the Goshawk and moved to the Merlin, retaining the same wing structure to design the Spitfire!
It did look like it would evolve as the Schneider Cup racers would - like the Supermarine and Curtis designs did. The compromises for these racers would have never been suitable for a fighter so of course they would get glycol radiators and weapons, soon armor and sealing gas tanks… Supermarine and Curtis learned from the racers and made great dedicated fighters, but they weren’t merely conversions. I couldn’t post a comment so I tagged onto a similar comment. Thanks for the coattails!
Yep, buckets don't often squeak.
Furniture, the silent F in bucket . . . : )
Would you say this Speed was a Need?
I wouldn't think a bucket would be tall enough to practically use at a desk, but maybe you don't sit at a desk when recording. I would suggest getting a welded aluminum chair as they're extremely stable and non-squeaky. I've got an old one that I stole from my dad, it's 50 or 60 years old, and it's still a great chair.
I learned your bucket needs a cushion! :-)
4:09 - this is "Department of Experimental Plane Building"
Pilots dont need to see if they are guided by Ideology, right?
Hey, I've really been enjoying your videos recently, featuring some of my favourite plane designs.
As you do talk about german planes quite frequently, I was wondering wether you could use some help with sources, as I am a native speaker.
Anyways, thanks for the very enjoyable content!
This design reminds me of the "Europa" homebuilt that came out around the early 1990s in the UK. I almost bought one. Wish I had.
Sorry about your bucket. 😒
Stal~in
You know they make cushions for the lids of 5 gallon buckets. That might make your life more enjoyable while recording.
What 's that squeak?
The wheels of history
The plane likely would've had to have a 2 wheel landing gear. With the added weight of guns, ammo and amour plus the unpaved fields Russians operated from the unicycle wouldn't work.
That thing looks like a beluga.
bump
I'm not sure where the unicycling bear joke originated. Sounds like a pro-Russian joke because how would vodka and a unicycle mix? You wouldn't be staying upright worth a crap.
Bartini had the right mind but was born the wrong time
War thunder event vehicle
Oh wait 🤔
The grind 😞
In soviet russia, the envelope pushes you!
Unicycling bears a Russian trope? Perhaps you're too young to remember Walt Disney's Bongo.
maybe .... martini 6 😂