I have two classic vibes, both made in China: the two-tone 50s, Stratocaster, and the 50s black guard butterscotch Telecaster. They are at least seven or eight years old now and still among my favourite guitars. Total bang for your buck, cannot recommend the series enough. Nice score on that Strat, Dave!
I love them so much I own six! Two Strats, a Tele, Jaguar, Jazzmaster and Mustang. I had an American 90s standard Strat and I'm convinced they feel every bit as good in quality, aside from a few trivial minor cosmetic flaws. The Tele is the Butterscotch so it's made of pine, all 9lbs of it and I for some reason love heavy guitars.
So what are we in for today from our merry man who "Sings Songs from The Wood". The last one was enough for a good week off, - looking forward to next week. But I must say this Dave fellow, he is quiet a character, his passion is unmatched like the diaphone, tuff to find one of them these days too , except at Dave's house. I bet is has several , can you see him tinkering late at night repairing this and aligning that, sipping tea and going about this business - HOW CAN YOU NOT LOVE THIS DUDE, he's the cheese on my burger and the cherry on my sundae🍧
DAVE...You have given me an acute case of g.a.s. thank you very much🤔 My Squier CV '60's Stratocaster from 2017 is my #1😎👍 A '50's is knocking in my brain now...thanks to you...!!! Thank you😎👍❤😞
@@obgatson1275 Much has happened in a years time😉 Of my Stratocasters my Squier '60s CV is still my #1 over my AmPro1.. However, my new Revstar RSS02T is my #1 non-vibrato equipt guitar 😁👍👍 No shame but Lots O' gratitood😉👍👍
Dear fellow Louth resisdent... Dave, I've just been watching your Squier Classic Vibe 50's video (in fact it's still playing on my TV as I write this) and, Dave, mate, I must tell you, if you don't mind me saying so, you have it a bit wrong. It's not the width of the neck causing you grief, it's the string spacing. All strat necks are pretty much the same width - they vary from 55.5 mm wide to 57 mm wide at the very most. 99% of them are 56 mm wide, otherwise they would not all fit into standard strat neck pockets. HOWEVER... there is greater variation in the size of bridge saddles (and sometimes nuts, but that's rarely the problem). Try investigating the idea of replacing the bridge saddles. Costs less than a tenner. Parts suppliers, such as AxesRUs, Vanson, North West Guitars and a whole bunch of venders on e-bay offer all manner of alternative bridge saddles, and they vary from an overall string spacing, E to E, of as little as 52 mm to as much as 54 mm. Okay, that's only 2mm, which doesn't sound like much, but as a player you can notice it. The majority of Squiers and other budget strats tend to have string spacing around 52 mm, E to E, whereas USA strats tend to be around 54 mm. You also find that some USA strats also have wider pickup pole spacing so as to correspond. Bridge pickup pole spacing can be as narrow as 49 mm or as wide as 54 mm depending on whether the pickup is at the neck, middle or bridge and whether it is on a USA strat or an 'import model' (as the Americans call a Squier or anything of 'far eastern' manufacture). Personally I prefer my own custom string spacing of 53 mm and I achieve this by buying multiple sets of 54 mm and 52 mmm spaced bridge saddles and put 3 of each size, positioned alternately, on a standard tremolo bridge. What I think you have there is a perfectly normal 56 mm neck (or maybe a 57mm neck) but with a set of narrowly spaced saddles, at maybe 52 mm (E to E) - that's why your thumb is having to reach further over the top of the neck to find that base E string, because it is further in from the edge of the fretboard than it otherwise would be. Hope this helps.
Glad this was so high in the comments. As a new guitar player, I thought surely a wider spaced nut would solve it immediately, but great to hear about the alternative bridge saddles that are available. Thanks - and all the best with it Dave.
That's just what I came to comment that's probably the problem the strat necks and bodies are all interchangeable for a reason, same measures. The problem is on the bridge.
What a video! What a guitar! Like the music you made with it? No. Absolutely loved it!!! Vintage Simpson gravy. And as good as it sounds it doesn’t sound better than you, what you have to say is just as important and interesting to listen to as the guitar.
That's why I bought the Jimi Strat with the reversed headstock, it has a small neck and easy bending with less tension on the top strings. I never bought a Prs cause they only make wide necks. But, this is very personal, you have to know yourself as a player.
I have several of both, so please don't flame me...but the 2008 to 2018 original (China made) Squier Classic Vibes absolutely SMOKE these current (Indonesian) 2019-Present Classic Vibes.... for a long time I tried to tell myself they are just "different".... they are different; the Chinese ones are just superior.
Oh yes! Love it! Big fan of Classic Vibes myself: I have three (a gorgeous metallic purple Strat, a double bound tangerine Tele and a fretless jazz bass). Great platform for modding - in fact all Squiers are.
Got a 50s cv strat second hand with your recommendation after watching your old video review many years ago. Still the best cv review on the tube for sure! 😊 And…. I still love the guitar. Thanks 🙏
Yeah, I’m a huge fan of maple-fretboard Strats with a white pickguard and a light-colored body. Pink, blonde, or whatever. They all look great. I think it has something to do with seeing the cover of Paul Kossoff’s Back Street Crawler album at a young age.😍 I recently bought one of the Squier 40th Anniversary Vintage Edition Strats in Sonic Blue and I absolutely love it! It’s basically a CV with some unique features. Fun stuff, and it happens to sound absolutely brilliant.
Dave, mate I can watch and listen to you play all day not that it matters but to me but I just had to say it thanks Dave P.S. never change and hope you're doing well
C Vibes are incredible, I've got a 70s version, the only thing to change (I don't know if it's the same on the 50s) is the flimsy stock bridge: I've put a brass full block and now it's perfect.
That first jam was cosmic! Transported me somewhere else for a bit, for which I thank you good Sir. Fully agree the classic vibe series is just stellar. Legit awesome, workhorse guitars you can love, slam the hell out of and not have to worry too much about. Killer playing! ✌️😎😁
It arrived yesterday. Mine is VERY transparent, ESPECIALLY on the back. It sounds flipping AMAZING! May tweak the action, but not in a hurry. Thanks for the inspiration.
Great stuff, Dave. Keep up the good work. I bought a Squier Classic Vibe 70s Strat last year - and I love it. I've made a few modifications but that was more for fun than necessity as the guitar was great right out of the box. After watching this video, I'm tempted to get a 50s Classic Vibe as well.
Hello Dave, I just discovered you via an Andertons video, and I liked how honest and forthright that you came across. I’m now subscribed to your channel, after watching a few more of your videos. I’m enjoying what I’m seeing, and you are helping make my mood better today. If you don’t have a set of calipers to measure your necks, it’s a very worthwhile investment. Don’t get the cheapest, but you don’t need to go nuts either. Most Fenders are 1 5/8” (roughly 42mm) at the first fret. Most Gibsons are 1 11/16” (roughly 43mm) at the first fret. These are generalizations though, and there are eras and models where these specs are different. Also, all necks are to some extent hand finished, and that can account for slight measurement differences. For example, Gibsons went from 1 their longtime standard 11/16” to 1 5/8”, then to 1 9/16” all during 1965, and remained at 1 9/16” for a good while before returning to 1 11/16”. My suggestion is that you take exact measurements of your favorite necks (e-e, front to back, 1st and 12th fret), so you know exactly what you prefer. My guess is that you like something between 41mm and 42mm, and you prefer a slimmer neck depth (sub .800”) at the first fret, based on the few videos I’ve seen where you speak about your neck preferences.
Great video, Dave. I've one from 2013, 50's CV surf green FSR, limited edition, and back then they were apparently based on a '57 but with A slim C neck. The body looks smaller only because of more contouring as a '57 would. I wouldn't even change a pickguard screw on these gems. Cheers!
Dave happy Friday or Saturday 😆 I never know the time anymore 🙃 that is a nice Squier those white strat style guitars are nice Uli Roth in the 70's always had a white strat stayed branded on my head 😀
I have the 60s classic vibe. My neighbor has fender custom shop that I've played and it honestly isn't worth the price difference to me. I'll take my squire classic vibe any day
Hi Dave, I already have a lively double bound C.V 60`s Tele, and its awesome, so I`m now looking to add a C.V Strat to my Arsenal, and the 50`s one is currently at the top of my list, (The Tobacco Burst /Maple neck model.) so thanks for you`re usual in depth review of that one your playing, its always great to hear you talk in a non hysterical way about guitars, and watch you play some very impressive licks & solo`s. 😎🎸
The Pine CV 50’s strat and tele are both excellent instruments. The hardware is cheapish, but functional and no need to change. They both sound and play great.
Love your stuff! I've got 2 MG100HDFX's with an MG 4 X 12" cab! Also have a Marshall Lead 100 2098! Great amps! Have some tube Fender's as well: Love em all! Thanks for the real content! Keep keepin' on!
I know what you mean Dave... I have two SX guitars and two Harley Bentons, and all four have wide necks that can be a struggle. However...I love them all so I keep them.
I think he would like the one I got my hands on the other day. A local guy had a classic vibe 60 for a reasonable price. I can see it and feel it. Wraps my hand round the neck so noticable easy. Feel lucky, allmost mint aside for a little ding.(roadworn, no extra for that) and it was perfectly set up. So I have no exuse, all on me now.
Love today's video as always the music that came out of you with that guitar was phenomenal wow Dave in my opinion your are generations Guitar God what you do is just beautiful mate I'm forever a fan
Classic Vibe's are great! I have a stock CV 50's Tele and it's my main player. I do have a couple of upgrades lined-up but haven't got round to installing yet. Oh, it's actually not quite stock: I installed a Wilkinson bridge with compensated brass saddles. It's having new pickups soon..
I have multiple Fender strats and a Classic Vibe strat and i love it. Mine is a 60's model and i think you would really like the necks on those. Mine is more narrow E-E. Extremely comfortable to play. I think it might be my favorite neck of any of the strats i own. I have modded mine though and its your fault. After your video where you played that strat with the Tone Rider City Limits i had to put them in mine, and i am glad i did. I also swapped out the mini pots for full sized DiMarzio pots. Its a GREAT guitar.
@Dave Simpson If you find the neck uncomfortable you might want to consider rolling the fretboard edge. Taking the sharp edge off the neck can make a huge difference and you may find it a lot more comfortable and easier to get your thumb over. It is something you can do at home with normal tools but I personally might get someone more skilled than I to do it
Great playing again, thank you. I have a CV50 as well, a sunburst. That was my first electric guitar, and I think it is ideal for beginners. It is relatively cheap and comfortable, the hardware is OK, and has a great sound even without an amp, which is great because you do not hesitate to take it.
So I bought and black Squire strat with a rosewood board and loved it so much I bought a vintage white one with an all maple neck and had the same problem. I took calipers to them and the white one is about 2mm wider. The black one was a fat strat and I hated the pickups. I swapped them for alnico 5's and swapped the necks. Now I love them both. The maple necks from Squire all seem to come 2mm wider than the ones with rosewood boards.
Hey, I think you’d be very happy taking that to a luthier and having him roll the edges a bit (or DIY) . But do keep in mind that cosmetically the gloss on the edges of the neck will be sanded off.
But the way you described the extra fretboard space on the outer sides of each e strings - rolling the edges would sand off that extra fretboard space ;)
I picked up a 70's vib for $450.00 loonies. It has the humbucker at the bridge which some day I will switch out for a coil split for the best of both worlds. Love the guitar. It feels great. I'm thinking the nut could be lower. It's out of tune a bit at the 3 and 5th frets after the saddles are dialed in.
It may be a '50s-style' Strat so far as the name, the pickups and the general appearance go, but that doesn't extend to the neck, because it isn't a period-accurate copy. According to Fender's own specs, this is an absolutely bog-standard modern Squier Strat neck: C profile, 42mm nut, 9.5" fretboard radius. A true '50s neck would have a tighter 7.5" radius, and perhaps a deeper soft V profile - like the much more expensive Fender Vintera 50s Strat. If it's hurting your hand, it may be not that the neck is too wide, but that it isn't deep enough, or the wrong profile, so that the neck is fitting too deeply into your palm, which changes the position of your thumb when you play thumb-over. That might lead you to think that the fretboard is too wide, when in fact it is of standard dimensions. It may also lead you to squeeze the neck a little harder, which is fatiguing over time. By the same token, the greater width outside the top and bottom strings isn't 'vintage' either: it's a matter of string spacing at the nut and the bridge. It sounds as though Squier have perhaps been a little too conservative in the string spacing for your taste. Of course, everybody's hands are different. Other players worry about the outside strings falling off the edges of the board. You can't do anything about this, short of changing the neck. But it might ease things a little if you have the fingerboard edges rolled.
Oh my goodness same with the neck! It’s way too wide for my playing style! Going to be putting a fender classic series soft v 50 neck with the 7.5 radius I got on it hopefully it’s a little more comfy. Good vid 👍🏻
I want that same exact Classic Vibe Dave🤘🏻 I went to a store called Lightening Joes in Arroyo Grande CA 35 min from where I live in Atascadero CA.. LJ’s is an awesome guitar store that has been open for 40 years.. And I went there with a great friend of mine and he is interested in a PRS Siver Sky and I have been wanting a Strat for awhile now and lately I have been interested in the Squire Classic Vibe line., I have to tell you I couldn’t put down the Blond Classic Vibe they had there.. I tried so many guitars from Les Pauls to Silver Sky’s to SG’s and I just loved the way that Classic Vibe felt in my hand call me crazy but it’s true.. I am still saving up money so I am getting closer each pay check to own my Classic Vibe but it will also have to wait since I am awaiting shoulder surgery so I have to go through that first ( priorities 🫤) but I am patient… Thank you for doing this video Dave, your channel is one I watch when ever I can and your guitar playing is so killer your feel for the melody and timing is spot on🤘🏻🤘🏻 Take care and God bless Craig
A nice looking and sounding guitar Dave. Perhaps you will find the wider neck, easier to get along with after a while. I have quite big hands so find wider necks comfortable but they can put strain on the thumb. Great playing yet again Dave. 👍
I picked up a used CV 50's awhile back in sunburst and it's a great guitar! The original owner had de - glossed the back of the neck. Too bad about the neck width on that one. Maybe one of your luthier friends can help. A lot of the white blonds I see look almost pink, yours really has the "Mary Kay" look. Great playing as always Dave!
Master Dave healing us again. Thank you for your enthusiasm and feel. I hope your thumb will get used to the neck. The only thing: I just don't get your preference to Strats. I personally prefer Humbuckers. But who cares? Your guitars, your choices. You are a demi-god amongst players. Thank you for who you are.
Squier and Epiphone in these latter days are showing why part with more cash? They are nailing it value to bucks ratio. Get what you say about neck profiles and widths Dave It Makes or breaks a guitar for me, I have fret hand issues due to being an old git with.... well stuff that now sadly limits dexterity and spread in my fingers, so neck profiles are a big thing for me, some flow no issues others just become a challenge. Thanks for the vid Dave always fab hearing you play mate, really appreciate it.
Thanks Dave. Really enjoy your playing! I have an American made reissued Strat. Its been with me for almost 20 years so it’s kinda getting older on its own. Has the messed up paint for old effect. Never understood why they do that. Anyway It’s a cool guitar. Actually it came from Fender with 3 springs. VH style. In a w formation. It’s a blast to pull up an push down the bar. It actually stays in better tune then my old Kramer with a Floyd Rose somehow. Anyway I miss a maple neck once in awhile so I’m looking for something like the Squire. Rock on an thanks for the videos! Peace.
Wow, she sings, doesnt' she? Lovely guitar and a fantastic jam! I have a CV 50s P-Bass, same finish as your Strat, and it's heavy, tone-wise (and weight-wise)! It's great. Even better is my CV Esquire in LPB, one pickup, strange wiring, but oh so cool! Squier has upped the game quiet a lot lately (not consistently though).
the quality in so called "low end" instruments now is just amazing. my trbx 174 bass is just a stunner to play at just over 200 notes. my Epiphone dot pro is my preferred guitar over my more expensive gibson tribute les paul too.
I have two classic vibes, both made in China: the two-tone 50s, Stratocaster, and the 50s black guard butterscotch Telecaster. They are at least seven or eight years old now and still among my favourite guitars. Total bang for your buck, cannot recommend the series enough. Nice score on that Strat, Dave!
I drive a truck 11 hours each day,I go to sleep listening to Dave play guitar,freaking outstanding! Thanks Dave.
Hopefully not while driving haha
Good for you, mate. An honest man's job.
I've got 2 tone sunburst 50s Classic Vibe Strat as my main guitar (and first one) for the past 2 years, and I've loved it dearly. Hasn't failed me.
A true musician plays from their heart! Dave certainly does!
I have a classic vibe 50's tele and it became my main guitar the second i tried it, surprising little things those classic vibes
HOLY S**T! Those jams just blew me away! Love the guitar!
I love them so much I own six! Two Strats, a Tele, Jaguar, Jazzmaster and Mustang. I had an American 90s standard Strat and I'm convinced they feel every bit as good in quality, aside from a few trivial minor cosmetic flaws.
The Tele is the Butterscotch so it's made of pine, all 9lbs of it and I for some reason love heavy guitars.
I love the vibe of your room layout! So cool!
This Man always beams me away with his fantastic guitar playing.
I bought the classic vibe custom Tele because of your review Dave, youve never steered me wrong mate. Super jam as always.
So what are we in for today from our merry man who "Sings Songs from The Wood". The last one was enough for a good week off, - looking forward to next week. But I must say this Dave fellow, he is quiet a character, his passion is unmatched like the diaphone, tuff to find one of them these days too , except at Dave's house. I bet is has several , can you see him tinkering late at night repairing this and aligning that, sipping tea and going about this business -
HOW CAN YOU NOT LOVE THIS DUDE, he's the cheese on my burger and the cherry on my sundae🍧
DAVE...You have given me an acute case of g.a.s. thank you very much🤔
My Squier CV '60's Stratocaster from 2017 is my #1😎👍
A '50's is knocking in my brain now...thanks to you...!!!
Thank you😎👍❤😞
Gratitood,and,shame?,😊😊😊
@@obgatson1275
Much has happened in a years time😉
Of my Stratocasters my Squier '60s CV is still my #1 over my AmPro1..
However, my new Revstar RSS02T is my #1 non-vibrato equipt guitar 😁👍👍
No shame but Lots O' gratitood😉👍👍
That paintjob is gorgeous. I'd like to imagine it's similar to the glaze on donuts, delicious.
Absolutely Beautifully Haunting. Love love love the music that poured out of you here. My goodness Gravy 😮😍
I enjoy your videos so much. Thank you.
Some world class playing there, Dave.
Yes,he is a,mewsishan,❤❤❤,mewsic.
@obgatson1275 thanks for the reply, it gives me chance to watch this again.
Dear fellow Louth resisdent... Dave, I've just been watching your Squier Classic Vibe 50's video (in fact it's still playing on my TV as I write this) and, Dave, mate, I must tell you, if you don't mind me saying so, you have it a bit wrong. It's not the width of the neck causing you grief, it's the string spacing. All strat necks are pretty much the same width - they vary from 55.5 mm wide to 57 mm wide at the very most. 99% of them are 56 mm wide, otherwise they would not all fit into standard strat neck pockets. HOWEVER... there is greater variation in the size of bridge saddles (and sometimes nuts, but that's rarely the problem). Try investigating the idea of replacing the bridge saddles. Costs less than a tenner. Parts suppliers, such as AxesRUs, Vanson, North West Guitars and a whole bunch of venders on e-bay offer all manner of alternative bridge saddles, and they vary from an overall string spacing, E to E, of as little as 52 mm to as much as 54 mm. Okay, that's only 2mm, which doesn't sound like much, but as a player you can notice it. The majority of Squiers and other budget strats tend to have string spacing around 52 mm, E to E, whereas USA strats tend to be around 54 mm. You also find that some USA strats also have wider pickup pole spacing so as to correspond. Bridge pickup pole spacing can be as narrow as 49 mm or as wide as 54 mm depending on whether the pickup is at the neck, middle or bridge and whether it is on a USA strat or an 'import model' (as the Americans call a Squier or anything of 'far eastern' manufacture). Personally I prefer my own custom string spacing of 53 mm and I achieve this by buying multiple sets of 54 mm and 52 mmm spaced bridge saddles and put 3 of each size, positioned alternately, on a standard tremolo bridge. What I think you have there is a perfectly normal 56 mm neck (or maybe a 57mm neck) but with a set of narrowly spaced saddles, at maybe 52 mm (E to E) - that's why your thumb is having to reach further over the top of the neck to find that base E string, because it is further in from the edge of the fretboard than it otherwise would be. Hope this helps.
Glad this was so high in the comments. As a new guitar player, I thought surely a wider spaced nut would solve it immediately, but great to hear about the alternative bridge saddles that are available. Thanks - and all the best with it Dave.
@@colliedogjoyI’m no expert, but it would seem logical that replacing BOTH the nut and the bridge saddles would be the ultimate solution.
That's just what I came to comment that's probably the problem the strat necks and bodies are all interchangeable for a reason, same measures. The problem is on the bridge.
What a video! What a guitar! Like the music you made with it? No. Absolutely loved it!!! Vintage Simpson gravy. And as good as it sounds it doesn’t sound better than you, what you have to say is just as important and interesting to listen to as the guitar.
P.S.,,,,,, DoooooooD !!!.........you were on fire here.!😯😯.......great playing brother!!!!...peace.
I bought one of these (in sunburst) and am in love with it. It looks and sounds gorgeous.
Just bought a Squier Classic Vibe P bass, can't believe the quality, it's amazing.
That's why I bought the Jimi Strat with the reversed headstock, it has a small neck and easy bending with less tension on the top strings. I never bought a Prs cause they only make wide necks. But, this is very personal, you have to know yourself as a player.
Oh man!!! Absolutely loved that jam!! 👏👏👏
The classic Vibe range is great!
Great playing so enjoyable to listen 🎶 🎸
I have several of both, so please don't flame me...but the 2008 to 2018 original (China made) Squier Classic Vibes absolutely SMOKE these current (Indonesian) 2019-Present Classic Vibes.... for a long time I tried to tell myself they are just "different".... they are different; the Chinese ones are just superior.
You are amazing my brother .😎
Oh yes! Love it! Big fan of Classic Vibes myself: I have three (a gorgeous metallic purple Strat, a double bound tangerine Tele and a fretless jazz bass). Great platform for modding - in fact all Squiers are.
Superb advert for a budget guitar, I want one! Not, Never, when. Outstanding Dave.
Great playing as always Dave.
Bought one 6 months ago. Still can't get it to sound as good as you do when you let loose, but I'll keep trying 😂. Such an awesome jam, thank you!
Got a 50s cv strat second hand with your recommendation after watching your old video review many years ago. Still the best cv review on the tube for sure! 😊
And…. I still love the guitar. Thanks 🙏
Yeah, I’m a huge fan of maple-fretboard Strats with a white pickguard and a light-colored body. Pink, blonde, or whatever. They all look great. I think it has something to do with seeing the cover of Paul Kossoff’s Back Street Crawler album at a young age.😍
I recently bought one of the Squier 40th Anniversary Vintage Edition Strats in Sonic Blue and I absolutely love it! It’s basically a CV with some unique features. Fun stuff, and it happens to sound absolutely brilliant.
Dave, mate I can watch and listen to you play all day not that it matters but to me but I just had to say it thanks Dave
P.S. never change and hope you're doing well
Wow, that's a very cool video. Dave, keep it coming. You're doing some very cool stuff on here 😎 your my #1 Guitar channel To watch
C Vibes are incredible, I've got a 70s version, the only thing to change (I don't know if it's the same on the 50s) is the flimsy stock bridge: I've put a brass full block and now it's perfect.
That first jam was cosmic! Transported me somewhere else for a bit, for which I thank you good Sir. Fully agree the classic vibe series is just stellar. Legit awesome, workhorse guitars you can love, slam the hell out of and not have to worry too much about. Killer playing! ✌️😎😁
Great guitars at any price. Well-done , Dave!
It arrived yesterday. Mine is VERY transparent, ESPECIALLY on the back. It sounds flipping AMAZING! May tweak the action, but not in a hurry. Thanks for the inspiration.
How you feel it man! My God!
Great stuff, Dave. Keep up the good work. I bought a Squier Classic Vibe 70s Strat last year - and I love it. I've made a few modifications but that was more for fun than necessity as the guitar was great right out of the box. After watching this video, I'm tempted to get a 50s Classic Vibe as well.
Hello Dave,
I just discovered you via an Andertons video, and I liked how honest and forthright that you came across.
I’m now subscribed to your channel, after watching a few more of your videos. I’m enjoying what I’m seeing, and you are helping make my mood better today.
If you don’t have a set of calipers to measure your necks, it’s a very worthwhile investment. Don’t get the cheapest, but you don’t need to go nuts either.
Most Fenders are 1 5/8” (roughly 42mm) at the first fret.
Most Gibsons are 1 11/16” (roughly 43mm) at the first fret.
These are generalizations though, and there are eras and models where these specs are different. Also, all necks are to some extent hand finished, and that can account for slight measurement differences. For example, Gibsons went from 1 their longtime standard 11/16” to 1 5/8”, then to 1 9/16” all during 1965, and remained at 1 9/16” for a good while before returning to 1 11/16”.
My suggestion is that you take exact measurements of your favorite necks (e-e, front to back, 1st and 12th fret), so you know exactly what you prefer.
My guess is that you like something between 41mm and 42mm, and you prefer a slimmer neck depth (sub .800”) at the first fret, based on the few videos I’ve seen where you speak about your neck preferences.
Damn good picture of you around 4:25. The whole half face/half fretboard thing is a perfect pic for your channel.
Great video, Dave. I've one from 2013, 50's CV surf green FSR, limited edition, and back then they were apparently based on a '57 but with A slim C neck. The body looks smaller only because of more contouring as a '57 would. I wouldn't even change a pickguard screw on these gems. Cheers!
You make me happy.
I have a 50s CV and it's my fav in fiesta red. The flame on the neck is stunning. Love the alnico 3 pickups with bridge tone control too.
Dave happy Friday or Saturday 😆 I never know the time anymore 🙃 that is a nice Squier those white strat style guitars are nice Uli Roth in the 70's always had a white strat stayed branded on my head 😀
I have this one ! ❤ love mine , changed the pickguard to an orange pasley
I have the 60s classic vibe. My neighbor has fender custom shop that I've played and it honestly isn't worth the price difference to me. I'll take my squire classic vibe any day
Hi Dave, I already have a lively double bound C.V 60`s Tele, and its awesome, so I`m now looking to add a C.V Strat to my Arsenal, and the 50`s one is currently at the top of my list,
(The Tobacco Burst /Maple neck model.) so thanks for you`re usual in depth review of that one your playing, its always great to hear you talk in a non hysterical way about guitars,
and watch you play some very impressive licks & solo`s. 😎🎸
Been staring at this guitar for a while online. Some day will get but got my bullet strat in mean time. Great vid Dave 😁
Killer jam. The the stuff Dave.
The Track Not,never,when is fantastic 👍
great guitars, I just picked up a 40th anniversary squire strat very happy with it.
OMFG. That's an 'effing amazing set Dave. Mix it and release it . RIP Jeff Beck. But Dave might be a possible successor. Awesome
These guitars are fun to collect!
Making me miss my classic vibe strat. Although I traded it for a classic vibe bass which I used to record with both phenomenal instruments.
The Pine CV 50’s strat and tele are both excellent instruments. The hardware is cheapish, but functional and no need to change. They both sound and play great.
Love your stuff! I've got 2 MG100HDFX's with an MG 4 X 12" cab! Also have a Marshall Lead 100 2098! Great amps! Have some tube Fender's as well: Love em all! Thanks for the real content! Keep keepin' on!
I know what you mean Dave...
I have two SX guitars and two Harley Bentons, and all four have wide necks that can be a struggle.
However...I love them all so I keep them.
I think he would like the one I got my hands on the other day. A local guy had a classic vibe 60 for a reasonable price. I can see it and feel it. Wraps my hand round the neck so noticable easy. Feel lucky, allmost mint aside for a little ding.(roadworn, no extra for that) and it was perfectly set up. So I have no exuse, all on me now.
CV Custom Tele in my collection based on your recommendation in previous videos. Great guitar..
Love today's video as always the music that came out of you with that guitar was phenomenal wow Dave in my opinion your are generations Guitar God what you do is just beautiful mate I'm forever a fan
You're thumb will endure! Take the pain and conquer!😎
exellent as usual ive got the 60s version in bugundy mist one of my best buys, keep upthe good work
Classic Vibe's are great! I have a stock CV 50's Tele and it's my main player. I do have a couple of upgrades lined-up but haven't got round to installing yet. Oh, it's actually not quite stock: I installed a Wilkinson bridge with compensated brass saddles. It's having new pickups soon..
I have multiple Fender strats and a Classic Vibe strat and i love it. Mine is a 60's model and i think you would really like the necks on those. Mine is more narrow E-E. Extremely comfortable to play. I think it might be my favorite neck of any of the strats i own. I have modded mine though and its your fault. After your video where you played that strat with the Tone Rider City Limits i had to put them in mine, and i am glad i did. I also swapped out the mini pots for full sized DiMarzio pots. Its a GREAT guitar.
@Dave Simpson If you find the neck uncomfortable you might want to consider rolling the fretboard edge. Taking the sharp edge off the neck can make a huge difference and you may find it a lot more comfortable and easier to get your thumb over. It is something you can do at home with normal tools but I personally might get someone more skilled than I to do it
Me encanta verte tocar Dave sos un genio de la 🎸 felicidades abrazo desde Uruguay 👍👍👍
...I gave this video a...thumbs up...😊
When you started playing it made me think of war of the world's album, particularly the red weed bit.
Great playing again, thank you. I have a CV50 as well, a sunburst. That was my first electric guitar, and I think it is ideal for beginners. It is relatively cheap and comfortable, the hardware is OK, and has a great sound even without an amp, which is great because you do not hesitate to take it.
Yeah this and your video from six years ago (just happened upon it) inspired me to pull the trigger on a 2 tone sunburst CV 50's Strat.
So I bought and black Squire strat with a rosewood board and loved it so much I bought a vintage white one with an all maple neck and had the same problem. I took calipers to them and the white one is about 2mm wider. The black one was a fat strat and I hated the pickups. I swapped them for alnico 5's and swapped the necks. Now I love them both. The maple necks from Squire all seem to come 2mm wider than the ones with rosewood boards.
Very impressive
Love em...Got 4...including the Esquire.Havent ever modded any of em.
Dunno about the guitar... but that jam is awesome. One of my faves of yours for some time. Thank-you Mr Dave :o)
I really liked the CV telecaster custom 60s. Great neck.
Hey, I think you’d be very happy taking that to a luthier and having him roll the edges a bit (or DIY) . But do keep in mind that cosmetically the gloss on the edges of the neck will be sanded off.
But the way you described the extra fretboard space on the outer sides of each e strings - rolling the edges would sand off that extra fretboard space ;)
The squier Cyclones are great and Wicked too
I got XXXL hands and I need a wider neck. It's a big plus for me and there are plenty of narrow necks for the masses. Nice vid Dave.
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I had this guitar for over 5 years before I sold It. Gosh how good guitar this was, won't ever forget her
I picked up a 70's vib for $450.00 loonies. It has the humbucker at the bridge which some day I will switch out for a coil split for the best of both worlds. Love the guitar. It feels great. I'm thinking the nut could be lower. It's out of tune a bit at the 3 and 5th frets after the saddles are dialed in.
I really hope you kept it!
Nope. Didn’t click.
Most people aren't on your level, and aren't aware their thumb can fret notes! Interesting to hear you don't find the gloss neck sticky.
It may be a '50s-style' Strat so far as the name, the pickups and the general appearance go, but that doesn't extend to the neck, because it isn't a period-accurate copy. According to Fender's own specs, this is an absolutely bog-standard modern Squier Strat neck: C profile, 42mm nut, 9.5" fretboard radius. A true '50s neck would have a tighter 7.5" radius, and perhaps a deeper soft V profile - like the much more expensive Fender Vintera 50s Strat.
If it's hurting your hand, it may be not that the neck is too wide, but that it isn't deep enough, or the wrong profile, so that the neck is fitting too deeply into your palm, which changes the position of your thumb when you play thumb-over. That might lead you to think that the fretboard is too wide, when in fact it is of standard dimensions. It may also lead you to squeeze the neck a little harder, which is fatiguing over time.
By the same token, the greater width outside the top and bottom strings isn't 'vintage' either: it's a matter of string spacing at the nut and the bridge. It sounds as though Squier have perhaps been a little too conservative in the string spacing for your taste. Of course, everybody's hands are different. Other players worry about the outside strings falling off the edges of the board.
You can't do anything about this, short of changing the neck. But it might ease things a little if you have the fingerboard edges rolled.
The wide necks came from Ibanez, I always felt like it was more aimed at beginners but I agree they’re more taxing to play.
Oh my goodness same with the neck! It’s way too wide for my playing style! Going to be putting a fender classic series soft v 50 neck with the 7.5 radius I got on it hopefully it’s a little more comfy. Good vid 👍🏻
I want that same exact Classic Vibe Dave🤘🏻 I went to a store called Lightening Joes in Arroyo Grande CA 35 min from where I live in Atascadero CA.. LJ’s is an awesome guitar store that has been open for 40 years.. And I went there with a great friend of mine and he is interested in a PRS Siver Sky and I have been wanting a Strat for awhile now and lately I have been interested in the Squire Classic Vibe line., I have to tell you I couldn’t put down the Blond Classic Vibe they had there.. I tried so many guitars from Les Pauls to Silver Sky’s to SG’s and I just loved the way that Classic Vibe felt in my hand call me crazy but it’s true.. I am still saving up money so I am getting closer each pay check to own my Classic Vibe but it will also have to wait since I am awaiting shoulder surgery so I have to go through that first ( priorities 🫤) but I am patient… Thank you for doing this video Dave, your channel is one I watch when ever I can and your guitar playing is so killer your feel for the melody and timing is spot on🤘🏻🤘🏻 Take care and God bless
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A nice looking and sounding guitar Dave. Perhaps you will find the wider neck, easier to get along with after a while. I have quite big hands so find wider necks comfortable but they can put strain on the thumb. Great playing yet again Dave. 👍
You need to try the Classic Vibe 50's Tele if you have a chance. It is amazing for the price.
I picked up a used CV 50's awhile back in sunburst and it's a great guitar! The original owner had de - glossed the back of the neck. Too bad about the neck width on that one. Maybe one of your luthier friends can help. A lot of the white blonds I see look almost pink, yours really has the "Mary Kay" look. Great playing as always Dave!
Master Dave healing us again. Thank you for your enthusiasm and feel. I hope your thumb will get used to the neck. The only thing: I just don't get your preference to Strats. I personally prefer Humbuckers. But who cares? Your guitars, your choices. You are a demi-god amongst players. Thank you for who you are.
Squier and Epiphone in these latter days are showing why part with more cash? They are nailing it value to bucks ratio. Get what you say about neck profiles and widths Dave It Makes or breaks a guitar for me, I have fret hand issues due to being an old git with.... well stuff that now sadly limits dexterity and spread in my fingers, so neck profiles are a big thing for me, some flow no issues others just become a challenge. Thanks for the vid Dave always fab hearing you play mate, really appreciate it.
Well said I have an inspired by Gibson Epiphone 68 sg and it sounds and plays like a far more expensive guitar.
Thanks Dave. Really enjoy your playing! I have an American made reissued Strat. Its been with me for almost 20 years so it’s kinda getting older on its own. Has the messed up paint for old effect. Never understood why they do that. Anyway It’s a cool guitar. Actually it came from Fender with 3 springs. VH style. In a w formation. It’s a blast to pull up an push down the bar. It actually stays in better tune then my old Kramer with a Floyd Rose somehow. Anyway I miss a maple neck once in awhile so I’m looking for something like the Squire. Rock on an thanks for the videos! Peace.
Great jam Mr S!… can see that guitar neck looks incredibly wide!🙂🎸😮
Wow, she sings, doesnt' she? Lovely guitar and a fantastic jam! I have a CV 50s P-Bass, same finish as your Strat, and it's heavy, tone-wise (and weight-wise)! It's great. Even better is my CV Esquire in LPB, one pickup, strange wiring, but oh so cool! Squier has upped the game quiet a lot lately (not consistently though).
the quality in so called "low end" instruments now is just amazing. my trbx 174 bass is just a stunner to play at just over 200 notes. my Epiphone dot pro is my preferred guitar over my more expensive gibson tribute les paul too.
Hello Dave,
Start by changing the nut of the guitar with a wider one and see if it change .