Even BETTER! Milwaukee Gen 2 M12 FUEL Stubby Impact Wrench - 3/8" and 1/2" [2562 & 2563]
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Improving on something great! These Milwaukee M12 FUEL STUBBY Impact Wrenches now deliver up to 550 ft-lbs of breakaway and 400 ft-lbs of fastening torque. With only 12 volts on tap, these Milwaukee Stubbies go head to head with many 18V or 20V impacts. Model 2562 is the 3/8" and 2563 is the 1/2" with both equal in power and specifications. These new Milwaukee Stubbies will be available in September for $199 for the bare tool, and $349 for the kit with 2 batteries.
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I’m ordering the 1/2 next week for my birthday present to my myself.
Happy birthday yoo. May your stubby see some kickass nut bursting.
Milwaukee is always taking my heart away
And our money
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Oh baby! New Milwaukee impact video lets go!!!!
That's insane power for those stubbies. No offense to other channels, but, at the end of the day, torquing down huge bolts and then busting them free is the only true way to assess nut busting power.
Tim Johnson out here doin' it again.
Charts are cool but agreed. Can it do the job yes/no
It's odd you guys consider specifically THESE bolts and nuts to be the true representation of torque to match what you see at home when even between his own bolts here they don't agree. On this same set up we see the 2953 impact driver also busting 550 ft-lbs free using a 1/4" adapter, a tool Milwaukee rates at 167 ft-lbs....
A mixture of new and old hardware every time, all torqued within an inch of its life - stretching more each time, no way to calibrate. Unless you have a DeWALT DCF921 side by side doing the same hardware at the same time, this is all just fun bolt busting. Not really measuring much.
Sorry, but it's not
Nope not even this is real. go let a truck drive for a couple years then go take off some nuts that got some rust on em that’s realistic 😂😂
Cant wait to get these bad boys. That’s serious power for 12V
What a beast for the weight!
That is incredibly impressive that they more than doubled the torque. Pretty incredible. I’m sold lol. Will be picking up the 3/8”.
the 3/8" impact usually makes more numbers (like seen in this test) because the motor has a lighter anvil to hit so it takes away less power and less force from the hammer
Ttc did show that, and it makes sense
BRUHHH 🤯 Milwaukee done it again. The stubby. A tool for EVERY man’s garage. 📈 I have the Gen1 3/8-1/2 and they amazing as it is.
ive had my gen 1 3/8th stubby for years now, definitely a much needed upgrade
Ill disagree my M12 stubby can break 95% of all the lugnuts of the vehicles I work on. I love it since it provides the power I need in a small size.
They'll break most lugs sure but the problem is *when* they do it and how. Even older mid-torques will absolutely *zip* most lugs off without that much impacting. The Stubby/compacts need to impact a bit and rattle around making noise a few seconds and then the lug comes off. It's a difference in how much work the tool has to do and how much noise gets made---the torque levels being hit *on the curve* . If you look at TTC's tests you'll see the old Stubby (they haven't tested the new one yet) takes about *7s* to reach 200lb*ft, something most mid-torques reach in only 2s in the same testing/dyno.
Also I don't see the point of using a stubby/compact on lugs when you typically have unlimited space. You're free to do what you want of course, but mid-torques do lugs faster, with less noise, and are the "right tool for the job".
@@rolandm9750 performance to weight stubby wins hands down. The less weight I need to carry the better. People can use what ever tool they want. There is a reason I only use m12 tools since performance to weight. I also have air tools if need be. So my set up works perfect for me.
I bought the 1/2 m18 high torque in an emergency and it just barely got 2 of my lug nuts broke free after about 45 seconds each before overheating and almost draining my 5ah battery on the 3rd. I wish it would have worked on my truck, be even cooler if the 12v could do it but I tried that one first (bought brand new just for the truck lugs) and it had no chance.
@@thereitroche1622yeah but are we talking regular truck or a semi truck. You use a 1" gun on a semi truck period. If you have some smaller consumer level truck, your lugs are so over torqued, it is insane and you need to buy a torque wrench
Old geezerz love giving unwarranted warnings backed by “trust me”. Why would a 550 ft lbs device not work with lug nuts ???????
Thank you. One of the best " regular guy " testing and demonstration of these. Great video 👍
This is what a real upgrade looks like! Looking forward to mine!
Did you make a mistake with the 1/2" on larger fasteners at 600 ft/lbs? It looks like you were going in forward, not reverse for that test. Around the 14:30 mark.
You can 100% see the tool is in forwards
@@lucaskosty6305 I guess I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed. Would like the test redone.
Yeah it’s def in forward
@@coryarnold8077 Test is busted!! 🤣
Nice video ! I was going to order the 1/2 and use an adaptor to 3/8 I use more 3/8 on all my stuff so makes more sense like you say
My gen one still kicking that ass. When it comes to using power tools, the weight /power ratio is everything. Especially if using it all day to help fatigue.
That's awesome! The Stubby (gen 1 or 2) with an XC battery gets the work done, and it's so much nicer to hold a 3-lb tool rather than 8-10 lbs. And when you need it, you can grab that High Torque. Thanks for watching.
I'm very happy with my gen1 stubby 3/8. I only use it for smaller stuff like covers and bash plates and trims and interior stuff etc. For more oomph I have my gen2 M18 mid torque for that.
For those wondering which one to get, choose the one that suits YOUR needs.
A gen 2 stubby will do basically everything A midtorque can do within reason. It's an effective 12v replacement for the compact and mid torque
@@james2042I carry a midtorque in my truck. I like that it runs off 18v batteries because I also have an m18 air inflator, m18 inverter and other 18v tools. Get whatever works for you. I like the size of the midtorque. It’s kinda big but not huge.
I have the m18 3/8th love it but sometimes it’s too big, but I don’t know if this new m12 could replace the power on the m18?
Not a big Milwaukee fan but I do love the stubby impact wrench. Used it for lag bolts, brake work , lawnmower blades. Lug nuts you name it. Have the newer 1/2 mid torque very seldom do I need it.
Love the new Feature on hoe to change speeds that is sweet
If I'm not mistaken I think it was the M18 Fuel Compact Impact Wrenches the 3/8 inch outperformed the 1/2 drive in loosening and fastening torque. You are by far my favorite channel and most trusted.
We appreciate the kind words, we really do. It was actually the M18 FUEL Gen 2 Mid-Torque that the 3/8" outperformed the 1/2". Thanks for watching.
Just got the 1/2 today. Truck gave me a good deal on it, surprised the hell out of me.
I've been waiting for this review and it didn't disappoint! As advertised and many said there was no way and it went 50 over!? Mines on order i can't wait to use it on the rigs. Great channel.
While it CAN do 550/600. Its definitely a workout of it. Its still really impressive how easy everything looked 450 and under. Definitely enough for a stubby. I cant wait to get one in September
More like mid October
Wow 600 ft that is crazy from a M12 Stubby
Seems to be common that mileauke 3/8 drive tools put out more power then 1/2 great video as always @Shop Tool Reviews
Wow just when I was thinking of getting the 1/2”. I know it probably doesn’t matter but I wonder what has more power, the 1/2” or the 3/8” with 1/2” adapter.🤔
I have the first gen and I’ve always felt like it was not quite enough for what I usually needed. I had to grab my 18v 1/2” mid torque half the time when I used it. So I ordered a new gen 2 and im selling my lightly used 1st gen for $100 to a new co worker.
Im not convinced the 3/8 drive is stronger than the 1/2. Socket weight plays a roll and youre using a 1/2 drive socket with an adapter welded on to it. Thats a decent amount of extra weight. I wanna see the same size sockets but in their own drives against each other
The 3/8" makes more torque in tests done by others as well. But you are correct about mass/inertia. But it's apparently the mass/inertia of the lighter anvil that allows it to make better numbers.
The torque test channel did a whole video on this it's worth a watch
I've been A Dewalt, guy for a very long time, but after looking at your video, I've been thinking of making of getting this inpack, just wouldn't want to have, different battery and chargers,
I prefer the 3/8 for the stubby models. For higher torque i'd get the mid torque 1/2 drive. Thanks for posting a great video.
I’ve got the same set up. I use 1/2 inch in mid torque and big boy impact. I wonder if they are working on a new mid torque. If they do I’m getting it too 😂😂
1/2" Mid torque and 3/8" Stubby is the best one-two punch in their lineup IMO.
@@italianstallion399 yes sir 🔥🔥
What is the weight of the two different sockets? The heavier the socket the harder the hit.
Excellent video brother, thank you. All the graphs and numbers are fine but at the end of the day, busting actually nuts loose is what we want to see.
Seems that a mistake by milwaukee to only give the end user the option of changing modes with the trigger. It's great that they added that as a feature, but a physical button for switching should still be available. 90% of the time, I would use the button, in very rare circumstances, would the trigger switch be necessary. It's also more steps to change modes, rather then just 1 or 2 button presses.
I would prefer a physical button too but being able to switch modes with 1 hand is a nice thing to have while laying under a car.
I put in a pre-order in with Ohio Power Tool after watching this video and some coverage from the 2024 Pipeline event showing the durability improvements made on the Gen-2. I like that they added a third planetary gear and strengthened the handle. And wow, it has some impressive performance. I'm excited for this one!
These have more power than Milwaukees Gen 3 M18 3/8th stubby impact wrenches. Impressive!
Very cool, but I have had too many issues with the m12 tools I’ve bought so far, I’m done with Milwaukee. Glad to see them pushing the competition though
If you’re gonna have just one impact and it’s gonna be one of these stubbies what’s the consensus ? 3/8 or 1/2. If you have equal socket sets. I’m thinking 1/2 cause you can use a reducer for 3/8
Wondering if the reason for the 3/8 to have more breaking power is because the socket has a little more mass to it?
literally my go to lug ripper. What am I supposed to use?
That’s amazing for a 12v I think I might be getting one eventually even tho I got the dewalt dcf921 like a month ago. Not getting it anytime soon but maybe a Christmas’s present. For 150ft lbs difference I’m not in any hurry.
New Stubby means Clearance old stubby! Home Depot is blowing the old ones out for dirt cheap in kit form. Grabbed 2 sets yesterday and it ends up being like $60 per stubby impact when you account for the value of the battery and extra tool they give you for $179 total. Too good to pass up.
You are correct. I got two of the kits from HD online on July 25 2024 for $179.00 and got a free 99.00 tool that I returned so the kit ended up costing me about $116
@@bkee62 Insane deal. Wish I bought more of them.
Going with the 1/2 since i already have the older 3/8 will be a good combination to have
Shop tool review awesome video the Milwaukee always coming out with better tools. hey there's a question I want to ask you do you know also where I can get a drill operator rivet gun I believe I seen that on your show one time thank you for the review...
😎❤🙏🇱🇷✌.
The old stubbies only hit 250ft with specific Sockets same with these need the correct size and weight sockets to hit them numbers But man these new stubbies are impressive
Na the old version hit 450ft lbs with 4.0 battery.. I bet with a 6.0 battery it would be incredible close between the two generations: ruclips.net/video/G2uBwusLKrw/видео.htmlsi=t3ncihIkBwv4uaJy
@@VintageEngineRepairs I been using the gen 1 stubbies since they came out in real world use never had them go above 250 which is there rating
@@VintageEngineRepairs that testing video is with 33 mm Sockets Not with The average size socket used all over vehicles like a 17 or 24mm the torque is higher on a heavier socket
Word on the street is Milwaukee has a patent pending for an m12 XC battery with a 3 pouch stack on the bottom and 3 18650’s in the handle. Wonder if it’s going to be released under the forge branding
Need that. I have a bunch of off brand Milwaukee batteries for lights and chargers and vacuums, but when I need the power or the force I use High outputs or forge when available.
You can feel the difference
As a wise RUclips technician would say ......... "mother of pearl"
Took the words out of our mouths. lol. Thanks for watching.
I’ll wait a few months to see how reliable they are. I know with the gen 4 impact driver the teeth in the gears strip because they have been hardened too much, from factory.
I’m a roofer not a mechanic type . . . if these m12 aren’t for the tire guys all day, would one be acceptable as EDC/roadside kit in a 1/2t truck, SUV, utility trailer for swapping a tire when flat?
Out of curiosity when I was replacing wheel hubs on my 2012 sierra 1500 I decided to see if the gen 1 m12 stubby could remove the axle nut. It can but I do not recommend using it for that at all.
Love to see the first few who dip them black! It's interesting to see the difference in the 3/8 & 1/2 performance, I wonder if it's to do with the mass or velocity when moving that mass in rotation to break free..
It's a very small difference, but it does show in the testing. Thanks for watching.
We need to compare new versus old stubbies
Just go look at the old videos of the 2554/2555 (there's 2-3 videos I think). STR typically got them to break around 450, so this is doing over 100lb*ft more.
@@rolandm9750 Thanks
@@rolandm9750 that was with 4.0 batteries, this video is running 6.0 battery’s. I bet they’d be incredibly close if he used 6.0 battery on the older generation.
Sounds like the 3/8 is hammering faster, that could be why but who knows. impressive either way, I would add this to my collection. My Dewalt 923 for smaller stuff and the half inch version of this for Lugnuts.
I would like to see if you only run the impact wrench for 5 seconds then another 5 seconds, if that would make a difference in its breakaway numbers.
I find that sometimes works for me, but I don't have "Lab conditions" to test my theory if it is a fluke or common occurrence.
With this new stubby do you really need the mid torque?
Dewalt...snap on...
Milwaukee fired back and did it extremely well. With both battery platforms
I orderd the 3/8 and can't wait to try it
Milwaukee all the way from brushed to brushless gen 1-4 for me and adding on 👍
Could the difference in power from the 3/8 to the 1/2 be due to the weight difference of the sockets considering one was modified and likely now heavier?
I'd get the 3/8 just to use the Gear Wrench bolt extractor socket kit. I'd get the 1/2 just to tighten and break bolts.
Just sold my older stubby. I actually had a brand new and a slightly used one. Used it mostly for tapcons.
Curious what the half inch in high output battery could do. Probably not much different but would be interesting either way.
I think I’ll probably pick up the 3/8th. Already have a high torque half inch and all my 3/8th sockets get neglected
To make sure you have all power of impact goes to nut you should "assist" to socket and maintain pressure on it so socket will be in contact with nut in the moment of impact. Otherwise most of power goes to just rotate socket in the air. As gap between socket and wrench bigger with 1/2 in comarison to 3/8 you have a different results
Take my money!
I'm going to buy a 1/2 model for brake jobs. Might get the 3/8 if i like the 1/2 enough.
Wouldn't recommend the 3/8 not because bad tool just anvil size is so small they flare out the head on all of my gear wrench sockets.
Im going to wait for the 1100 version, ill give my son the week ass 250 version for his Lincoln logs
The 1st gen stubby with a 6.0 on your channel broke 450 but failed 500 ftlbs and this new one broke 600 and failed 650. Good numbers but not “double the performance” like Milwaukee said. I wonder if the socket adapter handicapped this test?
Actually, the socket adapter gives it a bit more power. I have the 3/8 stubby, and when I move up to the 1/2 adapter, it's quite noticeable. That being said, I was still going to pick up a Dewalt DCF921 in 1/2 to try, but not anymore. Even though I can convert my 3/8 to 1/2, I'd like to have a dedicated tool. Plus, when using extensions, 1/2 hits harder than 3/8. Yes, I know I can still add an adapter, but sometimes when I'm working in a tight area, I want the smallest possible footprint. I may just pick up both. Having a 12V stubby hitting as hard as a mid-torque using that large socket is quite impressive. Check out this channel Ridgid midtorque review mentioning the bolts. I'm sure the Stubby can hit 650 or more with the smaller fastener if he can find one that can handle being torqued down beyond 600ft-lbs. Awesome little 12V 👍🏻
Double the performance on *rated numbers*. Problem is the old one was well underrated and the new one accurately rated. I don't think anyone was expected this would be breaking 900lb*ft, unless they were seriously misguided.
Problem is the torque required to remove a fastener is up to 40 percent less than the initial torque. And literally everything matters, even thread pitch can change the results.
To be fair. The first gen is only rated for 250. At least they are consistently under rated instead of over.
@@rolandm9750 I was only really waiting for them to come out with a Tri Light version. For them to up the power numbers is a bonus🤙🏼people that don't use there's on the daily working on vehicles don't realize that the old stubby could pretty much easily remove 95-97% of most passenger vehicle fasteners using standard size sockets. Yup occasionally you run into some you need to move up to Midtorque/Hightorque level for removal, but now that may not be the case so much.
I think the 3/8 owners like myself were praying more umf for our 3/8's than the 1/2 hence the outcome lol! Can't go wrong with either imho.
Actually have the 3/8 on pre-order. Kinda wondering if it'll BREAK sockets ? Hoping not but cant wait to find out.
Probably wouldn't break a half decent socket but the original has ruined a few of my gear wrench impact sockets.
Anvil is so small they flare out the head any time the nut doesn't break away instantly.
My DeWalt stubbys still do pretty good, I'll wait till they make a new one
I love my existing stubby but this is so ridiculously powerful I’ll be looking for deals on the 2562-20 😂
Kinda funny when you tested the Hercules 1/4 impact you went to 550 on the bigger bolts why didn’t you do that on this test?
When is the release date I can't seem to find it ? I know you can pre order
11:27 The 1/2” DID break 600. You said later it didn’t? Or am I missing something?
WOW! 💯💪Both are considerably a beast. Like a honey badger 🦡
It sucks that you have to use a welded adapter with the 3/8". I feel like it does affect rhe results some. You should get some custom sockets made, like torque test channel did for their tests.
WOW! Awesome 👍🏼
I would like to see the size difference between the new m12 stubby the m18 mid torque...
A great test is to check rotation speed of 3/8 VS 1/2, I assume that a larger objects take longer to make a full rotation? Great review as always.
Bagaimana dengan mesinnya ? Coba dibongkar dan dibuat perbandingan antara stubby old generation dengan stubby new generation .
Bro the 1/2” was in FORWARD on the final 600lbs test. No wonder it couldn’t break the bolt free. I’m disappointed, I thought you were better than that.
Has the battery issue been fix ? Charger killed the battery 3/4 lights mine has maybe had 10 chargers on the 5mh
Thank you for this! I've been looking into the Milwaukee stubby! As someone new to tools and Milwaukee (I'm 14), what do you recommend. I've really liked the looks and numbers (performance and $) of M12. But what are your recommendations?
Great job, if you're 14 and looking into tools. Milwaukee does make great tools, but don't spend too much money for the name right now. What do you want to use them for? Are you a pilot? Are you looking to work on planes, cars, cosntruction?
General stuff. Between cars and carpentry. My mindset is to invest in tools I buy once cry once. I’m fully willing to work for every penny of the tool and I will use the tools frequently. Like I’ve been saving up for the m12 gen2 circular saw, oscillating tool, and in September the 3/8 stubby. Over the summer I work on farms and having high quality reliable but portable tools is a huge deal. I can go from working on a 68’ Chevy to a 48’ MF. Then straight to rewiring a barn outlet. I love all trades especially equipment operation, and automotive, however electrical and carpentry are fun
During the school year, I have a job in the winter repairing, and welding an old boat, but in the spring helping a family friend with his carpenter and furniture business. Then the summer I spend working on farms.
@@WyattThePilotYT if you're making money go with Milwaukee. They make you cry at first but you won't regret it. There's some great tools in the M12 line such as these stubby impacts & the right angle die grinder. They make some really nice work lights also
@@WyattThePilotYT I did a lot of what you're doing at 14 but never even thought of buying tools then. You're off to a big head start, just keep your grades up & don't spend your money on something unless it multiplies in returns.
You can save a lot of money with corded tools and you won't have to deal with that circular saw stalling every half inch. But the cords quickly get in the way and your stuck dragging extensions everywhere
I would like to see the porter cable 1/2 inch high torque and mid torque torque tested
Why don’t you recommend this for lug nuts? Just curious. Thanks
I have every small impact like this they will not take off more than 150-200 ft lbs tighten lug nuts facts
Great tools! I like my m12 stubby! Kind of curious... did Milwaukee give these to you for free? How did you get them so early?
Would like to see the 1/2 with the 5.0 battery. The 6.0 is nice but is a step behind.
Re-watch the video he does put the 5.0 on the 1/2. It's also implied in the off-camera testing they thoroughly tested them multiple times and still had the 3/8 squeaking out the 1/2. TTC did a video on why this phenomenon is common on TTI-made impacts--the 3/8" often just slightly outperforming the 1/2.
Wondering why the Canadian release of this tool has been pushed back to 2025 ??
Would have liked more of a comparison with the old one rather then comparing the 3/8 to 1/2"
Absolutely agree
Am I the only one who doesn't like the new gimmick to change the fastening mode? I love the button on my old stubby.
I would have preferred to keep a button, this neutral-double click thing seems like it'd be a pain in the butt.
I think it sucks too I think the only reason they changed it was for one handed mode. I get it that may have a use but almost never
Obviously a cost savings measure.
I'm split on it. As mentioned by superspeeder, it definitely is a cost cutting measure and just adds a failure point. But being able to change modes one handed is so useful
I don’t like it
so is a bigger battery the only reason someone would choose the M18 over this M12?
M18 has been dated for awhile, I wouldn't be surprised if they refreshed it soon. I mean the M12 was (unofficially) matching the M18 midtorque in terms of power before this.
Honestly the original stubby was more than capable. This to me is more a feature upgrade of better lights and auto mode. The torque rating is irrelevant at this point because this is functionally a mid torque 18v, and it was established mid torques were already a niche category because automotive is usually under 300 and heavy equipment is well into the 1000+
As just a home owner/DIY, I am thinking about ordering the new M12 3/8 stubby. Would this work well enough to take off a set of tires once a year or so? I think my two vehicles torque specs are 80 ft pounds and 150 ft pounds. No big trucks or anything. I understand it’s not meant for that all the time, but would it work every once in a while? I already have the 3/8 impact sockets. Thanks!
When are these going to be available for purchase???
Today
@@HarryBawls-m4swhere? I’m not finding it anywhere
@@mattcdubs i was able to pick one up from my local napa. They are limiting it to one per person per day at the moment. Call and verify ahead of time it will save you the trip i had to drive to 3 stores.
@@HarryBawls-m4s what Napa did you pick up from?
@@mattcdubs Out in Rockford Illinois.
Great deal on the old model 1/2" M12 at Home Depot. As of 07-26-2024 you could get the kit with the Impact Wrench, charger, 4Ah and 2Ah batteries and soft case for $116.00 with a HACK! You had to order the kit online and then choose a free select tool. I chose the Hackzall with a value of $99.00 The trick or hack is you then return the "free" tool and get $63.00 back. So the impact wrench nets out at about $116.00 you got to love that
3/8 is the netter buy. Get the mid and high tq for 1/2"
Milwaukee rules the 12V tool world
So it’s only 50 ft lbs over the old one?
A new surge would be awesome
The ol' Surge has been around a while. People that love them, love them a lot. They are definitely quieter and easier to hold. Thanks for watching.
To all milwaukee haters that didn't think 12v tool couldn't brake away 550 ft lbs. Get good dewalt could never
Break*
Not sure what "get good Dewalt could never" means, but if not for the DCF921 this new Stubby may not have even been developed/released. It's *because* of competition we keep getting better and better tools. Being a hater *or* a fanboy, of any brand, is teenager mentality. It's the fact that more than one brand is out there, that gets us better tools and better prices.
Me I have over 10 Brands of Power tools have the new M12 FUEL 2nd generation on order 1/2 PIN DETENT from OHIO POWER TOOLS hopefully it ships end AUGUST now I want the 3/8 one too but will get that in a KIT for KMAS when it goes on SALE
The M18 impact driver also broke 550 ft-lbs free on this channel, so if this proves everything about the tool y'all should just run out and buy the 167 ft lb rated 2953 which is available now.
Think you're missing the point. The ridiculous part about Milwaukee's claim was going from 350 to 550. So they definitely changed the way of measuring it, cause the real increase is not anywhere near that percentage.
The only thing I hate on the m12 impacts is the vibration cause the battery the intermittently disconnect.
What tool did he use to torque them down to 600 lbs ?
We use the HYTORC Torque Tool. Here's the review. ruclips.net/video/vkCWe5REG00/видео.htmlsi=3mQ_qnSJws0MHyYZ