Stray Kids' Bang Chan & Seungmin | Communication & Friendship Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2022
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You have to understand that the responsibility Chan was immediately given over them and took from the beginning has influenced the group dynamic a lot. It’s very interesting. Background is a 19 year old kid was put in charge of picking and training his own group, which itself is very very rare, especially in the big 4 companies. He had years of experience over all of them, and knew how hard being in the system could be better than anyone. 4 of them were still 16 at that time too, with a max of 3 years of experience so he has been a mentor towards them as a professional and a person for so long. It’s a reason why they trust him with everything and he struggles to lean on them. He’s taken on a lot to try to emotionally protect them. You won’t see them often in public where they’re not all in his line of sight, he literally stays to one end or steps back to watch them, and says he gets anxious when he can’t see all of them at once in public. Sounds dramatic but we’ve literally seen him force himself unguarded in an airport mobbing situation because he ordered his security to protect the boys instead of him. It’s intense, but that’s how Chan is. The boys have been pushing him to let go and help carry the burden, so we’ll have to see how it plays out as they all grow up. But somewhere inside of him, there’s still that 20 year old raising a bunch of teenagers that he hasn’t let go of yet.
Hi max! I’d like to add this to the first conversation about bang Chan and weight loss. He has told us on livestream that he prefers the members telling him when he needs to loose weight because he cannot tell himself if he needs to or not. Unfortunately they go on very strict diets etc and they need to manage their weights well :/ I wish they could eat meals without having to constantly fit the idol image of being thin but unfortunately that’s not the case. Anyway, I guess seungmin just did as he has been told or something along those lines but it’s definitely a sensitive topic for Chan as he has been open about how he dislikes his appearance
Great observation! What I see going on here is Abstract vs Concrete perspectives. Bang Chan is very focused on what
I think Chan being so closed off and not fully opened up to the kids is due to the fact that he was a trainee for the longest and during that time so many others entered his life and left leaving him behind and he became depressed and sad. He talked about this before and add on to that he lost a member early on their career, he even apologised for not keeping straykids 9 members. So I hope he would let the ither kids help him.
I love this episode and you are exactly right. Bang Chan and seungmin have a different bond with each other than with others but it’s good for both of them. Chan loves hugging Seungmin and I feel like Seungmin is the indirect pillar that helps Chan stay focused and open up to others. Chan has been through a lot and I respect him so much. I hope that one day I can be just as amazing as he is 💕
I feel like both Seungmin and Lee Know are the type to be strong minded, so when someone confides in them the way they give advice is really straight forward. Like in a way that they don’t understand why it wasn’t obvious to the other person. I feel like they’re more emotionally distant compared to members like Felix and Changbin, tending to be more logical compared to emotional. It’s not really a negative thing at all, it just means that they’re probably the type of people you need to snap you back to reality, instead of when you need gentler comfort.
Hi Max, i think there's a high chance of possibility that Chan might watch your reaction to them since he watch a lot of reaction videos to them, I think he'll might learn a lot of things from you so please continue to love and support skz. Thank you so much for the reaction.😊😊
Bang Chan reminds me of a young RM. He too had a lot of responsibility. (At 19) and tried to carry it on his own. As a result, he became depressed. Chan is still young (but mature). I think he’ll learn to let the other members support him just as RM has said he realized he needed that to be a better leader. Chan has said that RM is his role model. It would be so cool if they could talk.
I agree with Seungmin's humor not hitting Chan the same way as others. His humor is something he says with a straight face that makes you think if he's actually serious about it. Hyunjin gets that not just because they've been roommates for so long but also because they're the same age. ( Afaik age plays a huge part in their culture) Even though Seungmin and Minho's humor are a bit alike, Chan gets Minho's easier since they're close in age and have more of a partner kind of relationship, whilst he sees Seungmin more like a little brother that he has to keep an 'older brother' image from.
i feel like chan doesn’t want to relay on the kids that much not because he doesn’t want to show his weaknesses but primarily because he doesn’t want to burden them with other “problems”, the guy was already in the industry as a trainee when he was 13, he knows the pressure and stress their careers entail so the last thing he wants to do is to add other stress. when he goes live he isn’t afraid to voice his weaknesses to thousands of fans (even tho i’m sure he talks about only 10% of his actual problems). i hope he’s able to talk to a therapist every now and then, but considering how mental health is still kind of a taboo in sk, i wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t, unfortunately
Chan didn't get defensive because he was upset with Seungmin. He just doesn't have a high opinion of himself for some reason so that prevents him from getting in on the joke. I think that's what Seungmin realized and then he matched his energy better.
I don't think it was Chan not being able to connect with the jokes seungmin makes but it was one of those days he wanted to push the convo into a deeper one, but seungmin kept making jokes so he didnt respond. Chan is one of the members that love seungmin's humour and would purposely provoke him to get seungmin to give him a sarcastic deadpan response. He's constantly floating around seungmin tackling him into hugs while seungmin whines about it but yea I think Chan really wanted to talk to seungmin about something and it wasn't going that direction cuz seungmin didn't expect it.
I think Chan can be a bit hard to "read" if you don't know his story. He went through A LOT
My read on these two is basically that Seungmin is Chan's opposite. He is confident in all the ways Chan isn't, and Chan is sensitive in all the ways that Seungmin seems insulated. It feels like that's what contributes to the self-doubt and self-criticism that Chan exhibits a lot. Seungmin is good at diffusing tensions with a joke or a shared experience, but Chan has a lot of sore spots because he's very hard on himself in a lot of ways.
When this episode came out, some people misread the comments at the beginning. It helped me realize just how smart and mature the boys are. People always say they want honesty, but many wouldn't be able to handle a friend like Seungmin. Having someone like that in your corner is such a blessing and opportunity to grow that people too serious about themselves can't experience. It's a sign of maturity that Chan accepts Seungmin as he is and shares things with him that he doesn't share with others. (Such an interesting statement of his. And he proves it by being the most open in this episode.)
I have a different take about the Mukbang of Tears memory. As much as Chan makes them think what he needs is for them to be indifferent when he cries, I think deep down what he needs is for them to show they care. But just not in a pitying way. I also realized he wants the kids to treat him just like they do with each other, without the honorifics and "let's not bother him with our problems coz he already has so much responsibility" mindset. He likes when they open up to him like a friend. He had said he envies Changbin's position in the group, middle in age, so he's close to everyone. That's what he wants and probably why he sometimes feels lonely even among them. Now that I think about it, he literally wants them to realize this with these subtle comments. 😭 They already tease him a lot as a friend so that's good, now all they need to do is go to him about their worries without holding back and DROP THE HONORIFICS, at least the hyung line can do this lol. Minho already does, sometimes.
This video got me going back to other Seungmin episodes of 2 kids room and I realized he often brings some unexpected sides out of the members. Hyunjin usually isn't very touchy and cuddly but is with him. Chan isn't usually open like this but is with him. Felix was so playful and animated in their episode, when he is usually more on the quiet, emotional side.
HAN AND SEUNGMIN'S TWO KIDS ROOM PLEASE 🏃♀🏃♀🏃♀
When you think of the pressure Bang Chan has been under its honestly amazing the dude hasn’t had a mental breakdown yet. I saw an interview where Hyunjin spoke about how Bang Chan at 20 had to take the leader role and single handedly push all 8 members to be good enough to debut. I know we all think its incredible that he was allowed to choose the memebers for Stray Kids, but what pressure that must have been for a 20 year old? He was younger than what I.N is now and stayed up until 5am most days and was back in the stuido at 10am… Han said it, I would have been dead.