There is music I used to listen that wasn't recorded well, but I liked elements about it. I'd make adjustments to it as it played and thought little of it at the moment. Over time, though, I started listening only to what I liked and was recorded relatively well. I lost that desire to patch and bandage, and learned to appreciate quality in content of the whole package, and I've all but abandoned material needing compensation. The quality of the recording has become almost equally important as the type of music I listen to. At the end of the day, though, you just have to find what makes you happy.
It is kind a good analogy about compering tv resolution with audio resolution but at the level you are talking about you have to educate you ears. In my experience I used to be a salsa dancer I used to perform and we dance what we call dancing on 1 tempo or on 2 tempo which is more complicated to dance due they have to listen more closely to one specific beat in the instruments (conga, clave drums, etc) When I used to teach my students had to much trouble to listen to the specific beat while a clearly heard it. While and tv resolution what you see is what you get is a lot easier to distinguish the resolution. Excellent video like always.
Paul, I first heard of your name when I auditioned your IRS Beta system. I was blown away too although I didn't have a joint handy. I wish the Beta was still available. Your current batch of YT videos are quite educational. You are cool!
I agree on the triad of electronics , speakers and clean power supply . With regard to the lattter , why do high end audio manufacturers not consider battery power ? Surely this is the cleanest form of power supply and simple to implement too .
Yes, dedicated solar panel and battery bank. System voltage maintaining 120 volt dc. This is why I focus on car audio for inside of home and out. Just don't use much of newer class d stuff.
I fully agree, maybe ask Paul. One of the first things i learned (getting into electronics was about battery stages in amps for solid supply)that said, I'm no electric engineer ! I just love this stuff
Brian David Paul has done a video on using Solar power. Not as straightforward as you might think. One of the big problems is the inverter, which adds a lot of electrical noise to the power signal. He explains it better than I can, if you can find the video.
Gerrit Govaerts Red Wine Audio used to make battery powered equipment. They're not around any more, but the owner started another company that makes some similar stuff. Try www.vinnierossi.com
I knew I liked you. I have to say that I have an example of resolving power. On my Fios cable I watch News and it sounds ok by not great. But I listen to the podcast on my iphoneX and AirPods. Well I can hear the squeezing of the highlighter in the background when the guest is talking. Amazing.
This channel so far is AWESOME I'm going to stay here because I need and want to learn more about AUDIO things that I'm messing ^^ notification BELL already ON 🔔
Yes yes... pull the curtain back and hear the decay of instruments and sound effects, reverb, the track fading at the end and when someone is feeling the music and screams woooooo deep in the background. Hurt me baby, hurt me good.
how closely can you follow the most subtle of nuances of a complex waveform...amplify it and physically reproduce it. the better that's done...the higher the resolution. our ears by evolutionary standards are of more importance than sight. it's harder to fool your ears than your eyes. more expensive too . ;)
If hearing were more important than sight, then the darkness would hold much less mystery and dread for most humans and human cultures than it historically has. Human visual and auditory systems are both subject to being “fooled.” How else could one perceive music or other sounds to be coming from a location where there are no speakers? Diana Deutsch of the University of California at San Diego has done a lot of research on auditory illusions (e.g., the “tritone illusion,” etc.). Just as visual arts (regardless of media) exploit various “flaws” in our visual perception systems, arts relying on our auditory systems exploit similar “flaws” in our auditory perception systems. Melody, harmony, cacophony might be indistinguishable or non-existent to organisms unable to organically “blend together” that which consists of discrete tonal elements. We owe much of our ability to perceive aesthetic value in visual and musical arts to our inability to screen out certain illusions. This is probably why chasing after the “perfect” audio reproduction system is likely to be an endless one - even if it is fun to do so.
mastering trends aside(urgh)... have you noticed that in some cases the reproduction technology has outstripped the capabilities of the recording equipment? o should have been more clear. i was speaking from an evolutionary standpoint for vision vs hearing. on a subconscious level we are more dependent upon our hearing than sight. we still still sleep with one ear open,as it were, rather than one eye. you hear a sound that is out of place. it grabs your attention. by the level and pitch of the sound your brain assigns it a threat/opportunity priority pending identification. fight or flight response next. yes. we have identified and developed all sorts of ways to fool those instincts but the instincts i reference enable us to identify the nuances that some systems are able to reproduce. this is a factor in perceived resolution of systems. through the production process can we still identify the trickery? compound this a bit further....the recording engineer trying to,as best as they can, reproduce what they were actually hearing at the time of the recording in a live situation....not a studio one. a rather interesting rabbit hole indeed. ;-)
Come to think, tube amplifiers (most of them) have a huge distortion component in them - the transformer, and for some weird reason they are considered the best.
I guess it's a bit like tv resolution on a small screen you might not see the difference much but a bigger screen you see more of how much better it is. Audio on a tiny laptop speaker for example your not going notice difference in sound.
error079 All of those things, then you want a system that can reveal that resolution. In tv terms you have colour, depth colour volume, gamma, frame processing that give you "resolution" or what in the image your eyes can make out. Hope that helps.
Hi-Fi Insider sadly no, you don't get upsold infrared and ultraviolet spectrum TV's at Best Buy. The video resolution comparison is so thrown around and people don't think any further about it.
Paul McGowan it is a very difficult thing but I want a speaker around 100$ that sounds like the rs5 and the frequency response 20 hz to 20000 hz made in usa
Ferran Melero Transmission lines are not large, can go very low and as in my case satisfied with low power but it is special project. I also gave up range 20 - 30 Hz. I do not think that I am loosing something - it is rare to hear such notes in music ( Enyi by Rolling Stones). It is normally only in harmonics which are little readible. I But you need to consider that 20 Hz wave field is very not equal in room. You may have even huge spaeker producing 20 Hz but do not hear it at all .
The reason is “Hoffman’s Iron Law”. A loudspeaker/subwoofer designer must make sacrifices. A choice must be made to pursue; 1.) Small cabinet size 2.) Deep bass extension 3.) High sensitivity However, one can ONLY PICK TWO! Examples are plentiful, here's a few to the extreme that help illustrate the point; 1.) In ear monitors (small, deep, not very loud) 2.) Small Sealed box subwoofer (small, loud, no deep bass) 3.) Large Sealed box subwoofer (large, loud, and deep)
Could not agree more Comcast sucks and the Stooges rule. Don’t overlook Larry. The silent genius of the Stooges. In fact Iggy and the Stooges rule also.
Hey Moe! Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk! : D Dear, oh dear. Well Paul, all I can say is that you're a brave, brave soul. Either that or you just don't give a crap. Probably the latter. : )
There is music I used to listen that wasn't recorded well, but I liked elements about it. I'd make adjustments to it as it played and thought little of it at the moment. Over time, though, I started listening only to what I liked and was recorded relatively well. I lost that desire to patch and bandage, and learned to appreciate quality in content of the whole package, and I've all but abandoned material needing compensation. The quality of the recording has become almost equally important as the type of music I listen to. At the end of the day, though, you just have to find what makes you happy.
Nice to hear an honest person talk about how choofing of a joint will turn an audio sitting into an incredible experience. Good on ya Paul.
Paul, the Sea Cliff anecdote w/HP & Stan just wets the appetite even more for an extended version in the book.
It is kind a good analogy about compering tv resolution with audio resolution but at the level you are talking about you have to educate you ears.
In my experience I used to be a salsa dancer I used to perform and we dance what we call dancing on 1 tempo or on 2 tempo which is more complicated to dance due they have to listen more closely to one specific beat in the instruments (conga, clave drums, etc)
When I used to teach my students had to much trouble to listen to the specific beat while a clearly heard it.
While and tv resolution what you see is what you get is a lot easier to distinguish the resolution.
Excellent video like always.
A agree. With video we need to increase the size of screen to see more resolution . in audio size is constant and we will never hear more than all.
Paul, I first heard of your name when I auditioned your IRS Beta system. I was blown away too although I didn't have a joint handy. I wish the Beta was still available. Your current batch of YT videos are quite educational. You are cool!
Thanks for the great explanation, it was great to watch with the morning coffee
I agree on the triad of electronics , speakers and clean power supply . With regard to the lattter , why do high end audio manufacturers not consider battery power ? Surely this is the cleanest form of power supply and simple to implement too .
Yes, dedicated solar panel and battery bank. System voltage maintaining 120 volt dc. This is why I focus on car audio for inside of home and out. Just don't use much of newer class d stuff.
I fully agree, maybe ask Paul.
One of the first things i learned (getting into electronics was about battery stages in amps for solid supply)that said, I'm no electric engineer ! I just love this stuff
Brian David
Paul has done a video on using Solar power. Not as straightforward as you might think. One of the big problems is the inverter, which adds a lot of electrical noise to the power signal. He explains it better than I can, if you can find the video.
Gerrit Govaerts
Red Wine Audio used to make battery powered equipment. They're not around any more, but the owner started another company that makes some similar stuff. Try www.vinnierossi.com
I knew I liked you. I have to say that I have an example of resolving power. On my Fios cable I watch News and it sounds ok by not great. But I listen to the podcast on my iphoneX and AirPods. Well I can hear the squeezing of the highlighter in the background when the guest is talking. Amazing.
This channel so far is AWESOME I'm going to stay here because I need and want to learn more about AUDIO things that I'm messing ^^ notification BELL already ON 🔔
Yes yes... pull the curtain back and hear the decay of instruments and sound effects, reverb, the track fading at the end and when someone is feeling the music and screams woooooo deep in the background. Hurt me baby, hurt me good.
how closely can you follow the most subtle of nuances of a complex waveform...amplify it and physically reproduce it.
the better that's done...the higher the resolution. our ears by evolutionary standards are of more importance than sight.
it's harder to fool your ears than your eyes. more expensive too . ;)
If hearing were more important than sight, then the darkness would hold much less mystery and dread for most humans and human cultures than it historically has.
Human visual and auditory systems are both subject to being “fooled.” How else could one perceive music or other sounds to be coming from a location where there are no speakers? Diana Deutsch of the University of California at San Diego has done a lot of research on auditory illusions (e.g., the “tritone illusion,” etc.).
Just as visual arts (regardless of media) exploit various “flaws” in our visual perception systems, arts relying on our auditory systems exploit similar “flaws” in our auditory perception systems. Melody, harmony, cacophony might be indistinguishable or non-existent to organisms unable to organically “blend together” that which consists of discrete tonal elements. We owe much of our ability to perceive aesthetic value in visual and musical arts to our inability to screen out certain illusions.
This is probably why chasing after the “perfect” audio reproduction system is likely to be an endless one - even if it is fun to do so.
mastering trends aside(urgh)... have you noticed that in some cases the reproduction technology has outstripped the capabilities of the recording equipment?
o should have been more clear. i was speaking from an evolutionary standpoint for vision vs hearing. on a subconscious level we are more dependent upon our hearing than sight. we still still sleep with one ear open,as it were, rather than one eye. you hear a sound that is out of place. it grabs your attention. by the level and pitch of the sound your brain assigns it a threat/opportunity priority pending identification. fight or flight response next.
yes. we have identified and developed all sorts of ways to fool those instincts but the instincts i reference enable us to identify the nuances that some systems are able to reproduce. this is a factor in perceived resolution of systems. through the production process can we still identify the trickery? compound this a bit further....the recording engineer trying to,as best as they can, reproduce what they were actually hearing at the time of the recording in a live situation....not a studio one.
a rather interesting rabbit hole indeed. ;-)
I understand your logic, and agree with your bottom line.
Come to think, tube amplifiers (most of them) have a huge distortion component in them - the transformer, and for some weird reason they are considered the best.
I guess it's a bit like tv resolution on a small screen you might not see the difference much but a bigger screen you see more of how much better it is. Audio on a tiny laptop speaker for example your not going notice difference in sound.
Is this a re-upload? I think I've watched this episode before
humnaset I believe so
yeah it is
must have been 420 in colorado. I like this man more every day lol
Cool, I'm not crazy
I was gonna say the same... thought I had deja vu!
I wonder if any cinemaphiles clicked on this video and we're disappointed that it was about audio?
Great video Paul
But what properties of the electronics enables resolution? High slewrate, low noise or something else?
error079 All of those things, then you want a system that can reveal that resolution. In tv terms you have colour, depth colour volume, gamma, frame processing that give you "resolution" or what in the image your eyes can make out. Hope that helps.
I know I can tune a musical instrument better with a visual aid. I always use a strobe tuner for guitar.
like using a 5K iMac then go back to a low res display,
Hi-Fi Insider sadly no, you don't get upsold infrared and ultraviolet spectrum TV's at Best Buy. The video resolution comparison is so thrown around and people don't think any further about it.
it's transient response. why does everyone tend to complicate things up? it's not that complicated.
Tannoy 15 Golds are my computer speakers😄😄😄😁😁😎
This man is awesome
I have a question why all speakers go 40hz instead of 20hz
Paul McGowan it is a very difficult thing but I want a speaker around 100$ that sounds like the rs5 and the frequency response 20 hz to 20000 hz made in usa
Paul McGowan I love your videos
Paul McGowan could you make a recording of your infinity rs5
Ferran Melero Transmission lines are not large, can go very low and as in my case satisfied with low power but it is special project. I also gave up range 20 - 30 Hz. I do not think that I am loosing something - it is rare to hear such notes in music ( Enyi by Rolling Stones). It is normally only in harmonics which are little readible. I But you need to consider that 20 Hz wave field is very not equal in room. You may have even huge spaeker producing 20 Hz but do not hear it at all .
The reason is “Hoffman’s Iron Law”.
A loudspeaker/subwoofer designer must make sacrifices. A choice must be made to pursue;
1.) Small cabinet size
2.) Deep bass extension
3.) High sensitivity
However, one can ONLY PICK TWO!
Examples are plentiful, here's a few to the extreme that help illustrate the point;
1.) In ear monitors (small, deep, not very loud)
2.) Small Sealed box subwoofer (small, loud, no deep bass)
3.) Large Sealed box subwoofer (large, loud, and deep)
Could not agree more
Comcast sucks and the Stooges rule. Don’t overlook Larry. The silent genius of the Stooges. In fact Iggy and the Stooges rule also.
Paul, sounds like you need to develop a Cable regenerator ;)
Hey Moe! Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk! : D
Dear, oh dear. Well Paul, all I can say is that you're a brave, brave soul. Either that or you just don't give a crap. Probably the latter. : )
Why digital video resolution is better than digital audio resolution?
Thank you
Paul, we have SPECTRUM in Southern Indiana, and they really suck 😂
Lives in a high-end neighborhood in Colorado and his Comcast still sucks. There's no escaping Comcast's suckiness.
So glad you mentioned Bose (crap lol)
once again up loading previous videos Paul as lost it
You can't possibly be that much of a liberal since you're a businessman.
What? That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. It's safe to say that probably half of business owners are liberals.