Why Didn't Anakin Free the Clones from Slavery?

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  • @TetsuShima
    @TetsuShima 3 года назад +485

    *Fun fact:* There's a Legends comic in which Vader and the Emperor supervise the Death Star's construction by the hand of the wookie slaves, with the cyborg Dark Lord feeling genuine pity for the wookies

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 3 года назад +45

      He still didn't do anything about it.

    • @TetsuShima
      @TetsuShima 3 года назад +70

      @@robertnelson9599 He made a little protest to the Emperor, but he quickly refused to continue with it

    • @TitanusGojiraEditz
      @TitanusGojiraEditz 3 года назад +39

      @@robertnelson9599 he couldn't tho.

    • @Godzilla00X
      @Godzilla00X 3 года назад +67

      There's also a Legend comic where a clone tells Vader they're taking pow to be sold as slaves and he can't handle it and ends the call. He Confronts Palps who apologizes for not connecting with Vader earlier and that this isn't like the slavery he experienced but an alternative to exterminating them. He assures Vader that given time the Empire will end slavery. Vader accepts it but is completely uncomfortable with it as he couldn't even speak clearly to Palps about it

    • @lord2.0works
      @lord2.0works 3 года назад +2

      Yo what comics? I wanna read them!

  • @joshualaster9779
    @joshualaster9779 3 года назад +400

    Well let's be honest... Anakin was a slave to the Hutts... then he was a slave to the Jedi.... Only to become a slave to the Sith. His only moment of freedom was right before his death.

    • @calthekonqueror312
      @calthekonqueror312 3 года назад +34

      But he became a Jedi of his own free will and could leave the order at any time.

    • @harrison9691
      @harrison9691 3 года назад +7

      @@calthekonqueror312 not really he was to powerful to leave

    • @rosesweetcharlotte
      @rosesweetcharlotte 3 года назад +23

      I know everyone says that, but being a Jedi is completely different from being a clone in the GAR. Anakin can leave and not be killed for it.

    • @harrison9691
      @harrison9691 3 года назад +2

      @@rosesweetcharlotte but I’m pretty sure that would have happened as he was too dangerous to be a sith

    • @calthekonqueror312
      @calthekonqueror312 3 года назад +8

      @@harrison9691 He still had the right to

  • @AaronPalmer
    @AaronPalmer 3 года назад +253

    Anakin is one of the greatest characters on film. We all never truly gave Hayden credit for his portrayal of him at the beginning but we can all agree Star Wars has shaped film making in one way or another.

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 3 года назад +16

      Anakin was so-so in EP2 and great in EP3, sappy love lines notwithstanding.

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 3 года назад +9

      @RUclips bans me Frfr Lol keep telling yourself that.

    • @devifoxe
      @devifoxe 3 года назад +2

      Lol....
      Star wars have made nothing about film making
      They have done a lot about film production and marketing...
      the original it was a game changer in hollywood....
      And you can argue it make a lot of progress in special effects at films...
      But have done nothing special about film making like an art form...
      In tha front is a pretty moderate film...
      I am not saying are not great films by the way...they are...

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 3 года назад +3

      @@devifoxe Film as art? What a joke. Most films were made for money. Star Wars was made for the art, even as the critics hated him, Lucas continued with his vision instead of dumbing it down.

    • @devifoxe
      @devifoxe 3 года назад +2

      @@HolyknightVader999 the original yea it was...
      Is not my point...
      My point is...
      it didn't make something special at film making...
      Yea it was special for a Hollywood movie when it comes out..
      But for a film in general the style it use is nothing spacial...

  • @matthewhalo1799
    @matthewhalo1799 3 года назад +176

    The slave arc was incredibly dark

    • @ConnerVain
      @ConnerVain 3 года назад +5

      And educational.

    • @matthewhalo1799
      @matthewhalo1799 3 года назад +8

      @@ConnerVain
      Perhaps but from my deeper dives into that part of history the real life stuff seems to be much darker

  • @death066
    @death066 3 года назад +88

    Talking about the hardships of slavery
    *Upbeat music intensifies*

  • @michaelatlas5745
    @michaelatlas5745 3 года назад +41

    Ani has a huge reaction. It’s all eyes with him. When the word “whim” is said ani looks insulted and pissed. Like he’s saying “how dare you compare me to a slaver”

  • @kestreldawn
    @kestreldawn 3 года назад +71

    curiously, I finished reading ek johnston's book Queen's Shadow a few days ago, and at the end of the book, there's a post ROTS epilogue, and there's this scene where sabé checks amidala's archives of future bills and stuff, and one of those bills are about clone rights! so padmé was indeed planing to advocate for clone rights after the war was over, regardless if anakin had any involvement or not

    • @rosesweetcharlotte
      @rosesweetcharlotte 3 года назад +12

      That's just sad.

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 3 года назад +2

      Anakin really didn't have a voice in politics, he's not a Senator, and there was a limit to what even Padme could do.

  • @jotheunissen9274
    @jotheunissen9274 3 года назад +178

    So because Obi Wan cut of Vaders limbs the Clone Troopers are still enslaved?
    Nice going Space Jesus

    • @lerneanlion
      @lerneanlion 3 года назад +15

      What Obi-wan should be called is nothing but the Clone Killer. Why? He dashed all hopes of the good lives in retirement of all clones.

    • @ajh3461
      @ajh3461 3 года назад +9

      "I look like Jesus, not Moses. You are on your own."
      ~Obi-Wan

    • @dogsareprettycooliguess
      @dogsareprettycooliguess 3 года назад +1

      Because of Obi Wan!?

    • @avatarspirit57
      @avatarspirit57 3 года назад +2

      Why is everyone blaming Kenobi? After Mustafar, he was never involved in any shit the government has been up to.

    • @jotheunissen9274
      @jotheunissen9274 3 года назад +5

      @@avatarspirit57 That's because he became a desert hobo on Tattooiine

  • @millidiemmmo6087
    @millidiemmmo6087 3 года назад +34

    Personally don't think the clones under Anakin would complain much to him, they only really get existential when they experience bad leadership or meaningless sacrifice of their brothers. Anakin who fought on the front line with his unit and showed them respect, combined with conditioned battle happy super loyal soldiers, probably meant Anakin wouldn't see them as slaves, because the clones were such proud and not constantly miserable soldiers.

  • @kirkcannon8079
    @kirkcannon8079 3 года назад +5

    I love that your channel talks about fictional lore well, but you also use real world examples to give greater context and remind us of things we still need to work on as a species.

  • @thefanwithoutaface8105
    @thefanwithoutaface8105 3 года назад +44

    They were in the middle of a war and it would've probably heavily disrupted things. But I bet you the second the War was over Anakin would've been totally on that.

    • @rosesweetcharlotte
      @rosesweetcharlotte 3 года назад +7

      Sure, yeah, but would anyone have really brought it up? We know that Padme was working on rights for clones before she died, but what if his good pal Palpatine or someone else brought it up that they should keep the clones as slaves?

    • @StrykeSZN
      @StrykeSZN 2 года назад

      it’s obvious. even padme was talking about the freedom of the clones before she died. if he had the chance he would’ve done something about it

  • @jaykerzp3643
    @jaykerzp3643 3 года назад +37

    No intro this week? Fine, I’ll do it myself. “Hi friends! Welcome back to another episode of Generation Tech. My name is Alan.”

  • @TheAusar
    @TheAusar 3 года назад +51

    For anakin to start thinking about the clones' situation the war needs to be over and his moral compass needs to still be intact. AKA order 66 needs to fail...

    • @namanign6312
      @namanign6312 3 года назад +1

      The clones got civilian rights after the empire stopped clone. Clone civilians

  • @brianbromley7809
    @brianbromley7809 3 года назад +76

    Anakin: loves his clones and considers them brothers
    Also Anakin: creates a crazy plan during a battle that gets many clones killed because they're not Jedi like him...

    • @rosesweetcharlotte
      @rosesweetcharlotte 3 года назад +19

      I think Anakin thinks everyone has the same disregard for their own safety he does. And the clones, unfortunately, couldn't really say no.

    • @zombieboiz64
      @zombieboiz64 3 года назад +17

      Nah I feel like if his plans really caused as many deaths as people think they do then Rex would definitely protest if he didn’t like it. But Rex and the 501st are all about the unorthodox so that fits perfectly with Anakin’s personality

    • @deadlypandaghost
      @deadlypandaghost 3 года назад +5

      Most of the times his plans are reckless as hell but they work out because space jesus. Also he does always put himself in the most danger if at all possible.

    • @zombieboiz64
      @zombieboiz64 3 года назад +7

      @@deadlypandaghost wreckless sure but still if his plans were really that bad Rex would say something. Like Krell and umbara

    • @georgemurdock7670
      @georgemurdock7670 3 года назад

      Many jedis think they are superior to clones, wich they are, anakin sees clones as equals so he often get some clones killed cuz they cant keep up

  • @arftrooper2057
    @arftrooper2057 3 года назад +20

    You also have to consider that rex was his closest friend and he has expressed before that he feels death in war isn’t that bad and is part of a clone’s natural cycle. Even in someone like rex the programing is deeply engrained in him. A lot of them don’t feel like slaves because this is the only life they know and they would like no other.

    • @rosesweetcharlotte
      @rosesweetcharlotte 3 года назад +9

      But that doesn't not make them slaves. And in Rebels, Rex seems rather disturbed that he still sort of feels that way.

    • @whatsup2318
      @whatsup2318 3 года назад +1

      @@rosesweetcharlotte Agree

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 3 года назад +1

      @@rosesweetcharlotte I think frankly it had to do with thier legal position. Since it was basically the State which imposed the condition of slavery on the Clones, I don't think Anakin could do anything to free them, except peititioning the Senate.

  • @rrrmmmm5059
    @rrrmmmm5059 3 года назад +59

    I’ve wondered about this since day one.
    Ironically, Anakin/Vader ends up enslaving millions during his reign with Palps.

    • @akumaking1
      @akumaking1 3 года назад +21

      Vader did protest slavery a few times, but ultimately accepted it as a necessary evil (like many other things Palpatine proclaimed/manipulated).

    • @yeudler41
      @yeudler41 3 года назад +15

      Because he was himself enslaved by Palps.

    • @whatsup2318
      @whatsup2318 3 года назад +7

      This has always bothered me. Most of the Jedi but specifically Anakin should have had a problem using what was essentially slave army.

    • @shadowthehedgehog3113
      @shadowthehedgehog3113 3 года назад +1

      @@whatsup2318 Most of them probably didn't think of them as "slaves" but as conscripts born for the job in the same way Anakin (and most Jedi and Republic citizens for that matter) didn't see Sand People as fully human. Anakin slaughtered an entire village of them as a good guy and most other characters except for maybe the Mandalorian saw them as simple pests at best and threats to be exterminated at worst.

    • @StrykeSZN
      @StrykeSZN 2 года назад

      @@whatsup2318 it’s not like anakin could’ve done anything about it. he did the best he could by treating them like his friends and letting them express their personality and feelings

  • @alcole-holic8779
    @alcole-holic8779 3 года назад +1

    Alan has legitimately given me some new perspective on many things in the series as a whole. Gen Tech is straight up the best Star Wars channel ever.

  • @HolyknightVader999
    @HolyknightVader999 3 года назад +20

    Because he doesn't know they're enslaved. By the time he found out, he was no longer Anakin Skywalker. That, and he agreed with the war effort against the Separatists, so there was no way he would try to get them out of the military during the Clone Wars.
    That, and most clones were trained by Jango Fett and his Cul'Vay'Dar to enjoy slavery under the Republic and be psyched for a fight, so even if Anakin tried, not that many clones would go for freedom.

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 3 года назад +4

      So it was a mixture of the Republic's need for war, the clone not realizing they are slaves (at least at first), and the Jedi teaching you should not get attached to anyone.

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 3 года назад +1

      @@robertnelson9599 No. It was due to the fact that Anakin supported the war effort more than any other Jedi, and the fact that Jango and the Cul'Vay'Dar taught the clones to enjoy being cannon fodder slaves. The number of clone defectors is insignificant when compared to the number of clones who happily served.

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 3 года назад +1

      @@HolyknightVader999 I personally think there's a lot wrong with Anakin's depiction in The Clone Wars. Like in one Epsiode he says the Rebublic is not corrupt, when he witnessed that corruption firsthand in other canon sources. He absolutely saw it as corrupt.

  • @AkimandAmni
    @AkimandAmni 3 года назад +29

    I learn something from obi wan... The way to get victory is find the high ground

  • @ethanideas1216
    @ethanideas1216 3 года назад +17

    Generation tech: Slavery is very sad
    Music: :)👍

  • @kevinaustin51
    @kevinaustin51 3 года назад +28

    Clones should have gotten a 501 k pension after the war

  • @imjustlookingformywatch
    @imjustlookingformywatch 3 года назад +1

    1:35 its really a shame that people don't talk about the modern slavery happening right here in the USA. Countless "prostitutes" are actually slaves begging for a way out. As someone who has worked with many anti-slavery/modern abolitionist organizations it hurts my heart to see them overlooked.

  • @clarity2199
    @clarity2199 3 года назад +11

    My thoughts is Anakin had plans to bring up the soldiers once the battles looked like they were about to reach an end. But then he got caught up in trying to save Padme from death and was turned to the dark side. Once that happened, he was now a Sith lord, nothing else mattered to him anymore....too drunk on his own power and hatred.

  • @alexmaurice4274
    @alexmaurice4274 3 года назад +8

    Honestly I think it’s because after he became Vader he didn’t care enough about his own feelings and he was just lost even though Anakin was so against slavery I feel like after becoming Vader he just became a slave yet again to palpatine rather than being himself anymore

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 3 года назад

      Before his fall, I doubt there was anything he could really do. It was the stae, i.e the Republic which imposed the condition of slavery on them, and Anakin did not make the laws, so he could not really free them. Not legally anyway.

  • @shadowthehedgehog3113
    @shadowthehedgehog3113 3 года назад +3

    Truthfully, Anakin didn't really have much of a chance as Palpatine's "Personal Representative" before turning to the dark side to advocate for the clones. He was mostly focused on finding a way to stop Padme from dying.

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 3 года назад +2

      Exactly, and honestly, according to the Revenge of the Sith novel his position on the Council was purely honourary. He didn't even have a vote.

  • @cocorex7208
    @cocorex7208 3 года назад +3

    Hey Allen, I love the content man, I always sneak a view during my breaks at work, I noticed the music was a little loud this time round 👍

  • @tysonwollas235
    @tysonwollas235 3 года назад +10

    Sidious would have Never allowed a huge force of train combatants to just walk away. The clone army would have been to dangerous to the Empire. Clones that would have chosen to leave would most likely have been shipped off to termination areas.

    • @Loneguy22
      @Loneguy22 3 года назад +3

      Actually I'm surprised that the control chips didn't have a self destruct mechanism. Imagine, a person hits a button and the chip explodes causing a fatal hemorrhage akin to a stroke. Sidious would I think have been on board with such fail safe.

  • @mandoreviews7245
    @mandoreviews7245 3 года назад +13

    Do a video on what the United States defense budget could buy in Star Wars

  • @happytimes8623
    @happytimes8623 3 года назад +103

    Hello there

  • @Maximus_Genitalia
    @Maximus_Genitalia 3 года назад +14

    Now it got me thinking, would Dogma and Slick join The Galactic Empire on their free will?

    • @GenerationTech
      @GenerationTech  3 года назад +19

      I think dogma and slick are both protein paste now 😔

    • @ryanfilmproductions6849
      @ryanfilmproductions6849 3 года назад +17

      I think dogma would, where slick would desert. Slick hated that his brothers were slaves and didn’t want them to be treated as such, and the empire wasn’t different from the republic in that way.

  • @user-qf6yt3id3w
    @user-qf6yt3id3w 3 года назад +14

    I was promised 40 space acres and a bantha.

  • @Connor.SG-1Ring
    @Connor.SG-1Ring 3 года назад +25

    What's the best way to cook an Ewok?

    • @ChronicAndIronic
      @ChronicAndIronic 3 года назад +7

      Best cooked with a blaster

    • @masteryoma5350
      @masteryoma5350 3 года назад +3

      Smoker at 160 for 18 hours with whisky wood chips

    • @kdarkwynde
      @kdarkwynde 3 года назад +1

      @@masteryoma5350 I was gonna say Hickory or Mesquite, but no, you're right.

    • @GalaxyDogenut
      @GalaxyDogenut 2 года назад

      Use a cauldron.

  • @scottbraun2457
    @scottbraun2457 3 года назад +3

    I think you've nailed it again. It seems to me, their nonstop rappid aging pre-planned, as a well orchestrated but cruel, way of making sure the clones were too easily a forgotten part of the war. In only one human lifetime, they'd have already been a long forgotten memory, that teens and young adults would only refer to and regard, as myth and legend.

    • @rosesweetcharlotte
      @rosesweetcharlotte 3 года назад +5

      Yeah, no one brings them up later. Even into Rebels everyone who isn't Kanan doesn't really seem to think much of them. And by the sequels, they're totally forgotten.

    • @scottbraun2457
      @scottbraun2457 3 года назад +2

      @@rosesweetcharlotte indeed, Kanan, has first, unresolved anger and mistrust issues, that don't just go away, but, linger untile they have a few good moments together. One or two, in front of witnesses.

    • @rosesweetcharlotte
      @rosesweetcharlotte 3 года назад +2

      @@scottbraun2457 To be fair, Kanan and Rex do come to a sort of peace. It just takes a bit of time.
      And Ezra. Ezra is probably the only reason they didn't murder each other.

    • @scottbraun2457
      @scottbraun2457 3 года назад +1

      @@rosesweetcharlotte actually I did say eventually they get over each other, but yes, I did forget who was most instrumental in that happening. I am sorry I missed that detail.

  • @Schoolgirl325
    @Schoolgirl325 2 года назад +1

    In the original GL canon and EU, he did initially have problems with enforcing slavery and using the clones as slaves. However, he was also the chief slave of the Sith Emperor who enslaved him, he became too terrified to do anything but obey because he’d always been oppressed and conditioned to obey by abusive authority in one way or another, his physical strength had been compromised after getting burned up and put in that suit, his emotional/mental health had deteriorated even more than it already had over the past 14 years with the Jedi, and Anakin hated himself for pushing away Padme and Obi-Wan. While his agency was deeply compromised to be able to safely do much better, so it’s not fair to blame it *all* on him for becoming a monster, Anakin also punished himself by resigning himself to this fate as Sidious’s attack dog/murder slave because he was too exhausted and terrified to try after going dark, too.

  • @bluonblu8555
    @bluonblu8555 3 года назад +7

    Anakin cares for the clones sooo much that regularly risks them on missions considered crazy even by Jedi standards, will risk a mission and his own padawan on the hope he might recover his droid friend, but won't do the same for a MIA clone (Echo) and let's not forget, he leads his men to slaughter the sick, elderly and young in the Jedi temple. Yeah, the definition of caring.

    • @GenerationTech
      @GenerationTech  3 года назад +3

      Fair point

    • @rosesweetcharlotte
      @rosesweetcharlotte 3 года назад +4

      The thing with Echo gets even better when you consider that Anakin delayed rescuing him so he could shoot the breeze with Padme for a few minutes. He even made Rex wait outside the damn door. I mean, if that rescue was about Ahsoka, Obi-Wan, or even Rex himself, Anakin would have done everything and not waited at all to get them back.

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 3 года назад +1

      I recall he will risk himself on those crazy missions. I mean soldiers respect a commander who will do the same as he asks them to do. Also, since the droid had important plans on it, he was kinda the proiority.

  • @dreamingflurry2729
    @dreamingflurry2729 3 года назад +4

    Well, the clones have training that could aid them well in civilian-life (most of them know how to operate heavy vehicles, most probably know how to fly at least a gunship, if not a a true space-ship, they can work as security guards, policemen etc.)...the problem with them is: If one commits a crime! How do you track that individual? With the same genes it could have been any clone!

    • @icesoul17z
      @icesoul17z 3 года назад +2

      Yup I could see lots of racism? Coming about if clones were freed then left with little resources to make a life for themselves. After all, how many people would look down on them for being test tube babies, and would not consider them to be real people. If some turned to crime I could easily see people profiling them as all being criminal since their clones. It would be in their genes after all right? It would make an interesting setting tbh

  • @eliteecho9383
    @eliteecho9383 3 года назад +1

    Legends: Clones can retire, but with their training since birth most prefer to stay and serve (some even refused order 66). Canon: Brain chips no freedom, so slaves. Only those that removed such chips found true freedom.

  • @winterwolf0014
    @winterwolf0014 3 года назад +2

    My take on what ideally would happen is one of the relatively uninhabited planets (which I'm sure there are many) would be given to the clones to settle as a new homeworld, there they could get married and raise families and lay the foundations for a world that breeds the Republics finest soldiers, not out of servitude by out of patriotism and gratitude.
    Retired clones can settle there immediately while troopers who wish to stay in the GAR may act as drill sergeants and officers to teach the next generation of troops of non-clones.

  • @nato4018
    @nato4018 3 года назад +3

    Do a video about why Palpatine approached Anakin and revealed himself to be a Sith Lord when he did (as apposed to waiting or doing it earlier)

  • @MsGingerbeast
    @MsGingerbeast 3 года назад +3

    Just me who loved the irony of a charity against modern slavery asking to hire an unpaid intern

  • @HolyHandGrenade.
    @HolyHandGrenade. 3 года назад +11

    You should do a video on if a clone has a child do they received the genetic speeding as the parent

    • @JamMasterJesus
      @JamMasterJesus 3 года назад +5

      He might have actually already covered that? If he didn't, I can give you an answer. It wouldn't. In Legends we saw at least one case where a clone had a kid, and in that scenario his son grew up at a normal human rate.

  • @IdioticCanadian
    @IdioticCanadian 3 года назад

    He was speaking,"so-And they got a cord for anything ya want!" A literal ad pops up.

  • @Werrf1
    @Werrf1 3 года назад +2

    Anakin was totally oblivious to the fact that the clones were enslaved. This was pretty much standard for him - he could see the misdeeds of others quite clearly, but was completely incapable of the kind of introspection that would reveal his _own_ misdeeds. Anything _he_ did to another was justified; anything another did to _him_ was not. Since he was intimately involved in the GAR, he couldn't see that he was part of the system that kept the clones enslaved and brainwashed.

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 3 года назад +2

      Isn't that kind of typical. I mean most people are kind of prone to blame their actions on others, and anything he said on Mustafar he himself did not beleive, it was purely a rationalization.

  • @stephenheath5893
    @stephenheath5893 3 года назад

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  • @tba113
    @tba113 3 года назад +1

    I suspect that Anakin was too focused on his immediate circumstances for Clone Trooper slavery to occur to him, at least as an immediate problem. If he thought about it at all, it was a problem best saved for after dealing with the Separatists. More likely, he saw the Clones as being in pretty much the same boat as most of the Jedi: scouted and pledged to the Order more or less from birth, and only a bare handful - maybe one or two per decade - ever seem to leave, other than being killed. Peaceful retirement as the standard exit strategy from the GAR or the Jedi Order might simply not have occurred to him.
    Vader took a longer view on things, and almost certainly understood just how terrible the Clone Troopers' situation was - but they were pretty much medically retired and spent by that point anyway. Besides which, regret at his prior choices would be just one more bit of fuel to the fire that drove him. Before he discovered the fact that he actually had surviving family, self-loathing and horror at the monster he'd become were two of the biggest driving forces in Vader's life.

  • @JothanGurr
    @JothanGurr Год назад +1

    It's interesting that in the Clone Wars they juxtapose Krell as a bad slave owner and the rest of the Jedi are the good enslaves. Thing is though, obviosly there is no such thing as a good or benevolent en-slaver of other sentient beings.
    In this regard I think the Jedi had fallen well before order 66 that they didn't see this. I wish this had been explored more in the show and how using the light side of the force doesn't prevent evility as the simplistic conceptualization of the force as being Jedi good, Sith bad.
    I know it's hard to see Yoda and Obi Wan as evil, they have been heroic figures for me since I was 5 years old but in regards to the clones I think they monstrous if they didn't realize slavery is never justified. Especially when it's drilled into our heads that the Sith are bad because of their promotion of slave labor. I hope this concept of doing evil supposedly while being the, "good guys," is explored further in future shows.

  • @Gustavogpoblete
    @Gustavogpoblete 3 года назад +1

    Loved the video, but idk about the music. Volume kinda high and the happy upbeat melody doesnt go well with the Slave theme

  • @sanjeeanand
    @sanjeeanand 3 года назад

    Clones were his backbone before & after the clone wars till they got replaced

  • @spideysg1163
    @spideysg1163 3 года назад +9

    Anakin would’ve then been went after by the republic and Jedi because he would’ve committed treason so now he would have to escape from the republic it would be interesting to see where he would go next

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 3 года назад +5

      If Palpatine promised to end slavery in the galaxy Anakin would have fallen more completely to the dark side.

    • @spideysg1163
      @spideysg1163 3 года назад +2

      @@robertnelson9599 yep

  • @englishlady9797
    @englishlady9797 3 года назад +1

    Honestly, I don't think Anakin (I mean pre-fall) *could* free the Clones. Since the the condition of slavery was basically imposed on them by the Senate and by their creators only they could legally free them. Anakin could like declare them free if he wanted, but his word carried no weight and did not have to be carried out. If he'd just declared them free during the Clone Wars he'd probably have been arrested for encouraging desertion.

  • @vennb1137
    @vennb1137 3 года назад

    Great vid

  • @Negetive2digit
    @Negetive2digit Год назад

    To be fair, everyone on the two dozen desert planets in Star Wars probably hate sand. If you actually pay attention during any scenes on Tatooine, for instance, it IS everywhere. If you open a hangar door, the walls will be piled with sand within an hour. It makes working with any kind of lubricant or machinery 10 times more annoying (which is mentioned in the original novelization), and there doesn't seem to be a huge glass industry on any of these planets so no one is even getting rid of the stuff so that you can fix your high-tech cooking machine without having to sweep it out constantly and remove oily sand that clumps up in the joints.

  • @englishlady9797
    @englishlady9797 3 года назад +1

    Ummm, no. His position on the Jedi Coincil did not give him political authority. According to the novelization of ROTS it was purely an honourary position. He didn't even have a vote- and since when did Palpatine do what Anakin said? Oh yeah- never.

  • @bgcvetan
    @bgcvetan 3 года назад +5

    How could he free anyone, when that creep could not free himself.

    • @FLAMEalan
      @FLAMEalan 3 года назад +3

      He was working towards taking everything for himself and then freeing the slaves. However little did he know that Palpatine knew his true intentions

  • @christophersanchez7731
    @christophersanchez7731 3 года назад

    Simple answer, Anakin like the Jedi and most Galactic Citizens didn’t see the Clones as slaves, he saw them as solders serving the Republic, comrades needed for the Clone Wars
    In a way Jedi were as much slaves as Clones were and didn’t know it. Seeing how similar they are blurred the perception they’re both part of a slave army of a failing Republic
    Anakin as Vader started to see that, which further influenced his betrayal of the Jedi, and he free as a Sith Lord

  • @taekfute
    @taekfute 3 года назад +2

    Excellently done, thanks for talking about slavery irl

  • @KuramaKyubi9
    @KuramaKyubi9 3 года назад

    This background music is way too upbeat and happy for this topic. Lol

  • @ZAK31591
    @ZAK31591 3 года назад +1

    Man I'd love them to make a show that really went deep into just how fucked up the plight of the clones was. Show us what happens to the poor bastards who didn't remove their chip and what happens when the empire tosses them aside.

  • @FULLtiltSENDER
    @FULLtiltSENDER 3 года назад

    “ the 501st had Well over 100 percent casualties??” Lol dude that’s not even possible

  • @reaperking7748
    @reaperking7748 3 года назад +1

    I think if Anakin had met Kal Skirata during the novel Triple Zero things would have turned out a lot differently for the Clones

  • @NamelessKing1597
    @NamelessKing1597 3 года назад +1

    He got black pilled (everything sucks and will only get worse so screw everyone, I'm just gonna do me until it all burns down) after accidentally killing Padme, he was traumatized to the point of being incapable of feeling compassion or anything other than rage and contempt until he learned their twins survived. He didn't free them because he didn't care anymore. Also Palpatine would have just killed him, maybe he was just biding his time until the old geezer croaked so he could take his place and try to fix the damage they caused. Neither absolves him of anything but either could be the justification within his own mind for why he did all of the horrible things he did.

  • @ayvenray1427
    @ayvenray1427 3 года назад +1

    I have a question what happened to the clones that were not fully grown yet as the clone wars was only 4 years long a lot of clones would not be fully grown yet so for those who weren't did they too attack jedi they did have chips in them after all..

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 3 года назад +3

    When in doubt, blame Palpatine for Anakin/Vader personality defects.

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 3 года назад +1

      Well, they're not wrong. Palpatine groomed him from the age of 12. Grooming doesn't exactly have a very positive effect on kids. Aside from that though, his childhood trauma probably left him seriously messed up. Like it does tend to do that.

  • @imperiumcommentingnetwork4677
    @imperiumcommentingnetwork4677 3 года назад

    If Obi Wan had a sand filled leaf blower, Anakin would have not made it off Mustafar.

  • @ryanelgieextrastuff
    @ryanelgieextrastuff 3 года назад

    I never want to see a photo of live action rex again

  • @BlazerK1914
    @BlazerK1914 3 года назад +3

    Starkiller vs Darth Revan; who would win?

  • @mattd2026
    @mattd2026 3 года назад +4

    Why didn't rex, Gregor, and Wolfe free his brothers from slavery in rebels rather than sit on a planet like bums for the rest of their days?

    • @robbambam3581
      @robbambam3581 3 года назад

      The emperor retired them himself. Remember?

    • @mattd2026
      @mattd2026 3 года назад +1

      @@robbambam3581 I mean why didn't rex and Co fight to free as many of their brothers as possible from the empire? Especially if they knew a control chip was in play. It doesn't make sense that Rex of all people would abandon his men. Does that make more sense for what I was trying to say?

    • @robbambam3581
      @robbambam3581 3 года назад

      @@mattd2026 yes it does, i have a feeling all of that will be covered in bad batch

    • @mattd2026
      @mattd2026 3 года назад

      @@maikoh5121 im glad I'm not the only one. I hope they explain this

  • @dark_unit2409
    @dark_unit2409 3 года назад

    Whats scary is that cloning exists and what humanity will do once we clone the first human

  • @kelleninouye4815
    @kelleninouye4815 3 года назад +1

    possibly because he felt the galactic republic Jedi won't honor that request and see the clone troopers as their friends instead of soldiers so he felt it was in a sense not the best course of action I feel.

  • @davidjones341
    @davidjones341 3 года назад

    Generation tech it's driving me crazy what is your soundtrack please?

  • @OllamhDrab
    @OllamhDrab 3 года назад

    I think there's kind of one detail that might be important, namely that Anakin for himself seemed to find 'military' life immensely-preferable to the slavery on Tatooine, to say the least. It's kind of harder to see freedom as more than abstraction when you got brothers under military orders and so are you, maybe. A lot of people kind of don't get that bit, say, when you don't have civil rights as a civilian LGBT person, either, anyway, and a less arbitrary set of rules and a ticket out of town may not look like freeom, but at least it's better. Or at least looks that way.)

  • @danielduncan6806
    @danielduncan6806 3 года назад +2

    Please. As if he could. But alas, even if he wanted to, it was not within his power. Time and time again palpatine inflicted his will on anakin and darth vader. He wasn't even powerful enough to be a master of his _own_ destiny, let alone that of others. Anakin was meant to bring balance to the force(I will argue he did exactly that), freeing slaves is just simply not a part of that.

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 3 года назад +1

      Thankyou. I think GT have vastly overstated the amount of political authority Anakin and influence had before his fall. He literally had none. Even Padme could not get that much done if she was outvoted. Palpatine would just nod, and then do whatever the heck he wanted, and he had no real influence in the Jedi Council.

  • @StrykeSZN
    @StrykeSZN 2 года назад

    by the time he could do anything about it. he was already a slave of the emperor. if he could’ve done something about it, it’s obvious he would’ve.

  • @luckimonster2298
    @luckimonster2298 3 года назад

    It is sad how the clones r treated D:
    After Anakin lost to Obi wan n became Darth Vader he went through a lot u can say. He wasn't really the same person after that D:
    Also the War never really ended in the eyes of those in power. They went from fiting the Separatist to fiting the remaining Jedi n resistance to eventually losing the war.

  • @GRIMLOCK07
    @GRIMLOCK07 3 года назад +2

    To guess an answer to the video title without looking at the video right now, I'm gonna say Anakin didn't have the authority to.

  • @heathward9239
    @heathward9239 3 года назад

    I love you Allen and I don't want to be a part of the team and I don't want to be a bag 😂😂😂😂

  • @JediDanD
    @JediDanD 3 года назад +2

    1:31 And in this day and age, I have to mention when hearing this;
    A lot of people like to bring up slavery as "Why America is bad", and yet they fail to remember America fought a war to end slavery; that's pretty much more than can be said for other countries . . .

    • @aarondowd7346
      @aarondowd7346 3 года назад +1

      I mean they fought over it with other Americans, other countries just agreed to outlaw it peacefully

  • @annavg.9976
    @annavg.9976 3 года назад +3

    Exceptional video. Blows anything else out there away. This one touches on something very real. Neo slavery is real and it's a harsh reality for APIs, Latin Americans, Africans, and other peoples. You committed the cardinal sin of star wars though - it's merely a series of swashbuckling adventures, right? Maybe Omega will do what Anakin could not for the clones. Anakin was distracted by the Jedi though as he let his mother die because he tried to fight attachment. Makes you wonder why Qui Gon allowed this. He was a different kind of Jedi no? Did this all happen just so Anakin could have a legitimate reason to go Vader? Then again like I think you said at the beginning of the video slavery is hidden. It's being hidden for a reason. The world economy relies on it. We are distracted from this reality just like Anakin was.

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 3 года назад +2

      Qui Gon didn't have any money, remember Republic Credits were no good on Tatooine, and he could not just steal Shmi. Nor could be kill Watto to free her, as they were meant to be staying under the radar. I do personally think he should have gone back for her, but since the Jedi didn't seem to give a stick about her son, why would they free her.
      In TCW movie it is shown that the Republic were pretty happy to enable the activities of the Hutts and even make alliances with them. Anakin had no real political power, and GT really exaggerate it, so there was a limit to what he could do.

    • @annavg.9976
      @annavg.9976 3 года назад

      @@englishlady9797 I agree with the Qui Gon scenario. Forgot about the credits.
      However, Anakin was not truly focused on his mother it seems, until he had the visions about her death. So the Jedi distracted him from saving her by keeping him in the temple and by feeding him the anti attachment rubbish. He would have found a way to save her given his strong headed nature but the Jedi lulled him into a sort of complacency since he assumed she was safe. Of course, being lulled into complacency brought the Jedi their own downfall...

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 3 года назад +2

      @@annavg.9976 I think Anakin faced similar problems in regards to rescuing her as well though. He probably also did not have any money, which he needed to free her. He could not go back and steal her, and even if he did, he would have to stolen a ship from the Jedi Temple and gone AWOL for days. Big trouble when he got back.
      Your take is intersting though. I think he believed she was mostly safe with Watto (although Watto did beat him, so maybe not totally) but also almost didn't want to worry about her because she told him not to look back. However, in the novelization of AOTC in particular Anakin is doubly worried when he starts having his visions because he worries going back for his mom will confict with Jedi teachings.
      It is also notable that Anakin does not act on his visions until he removed from the context of the Jedi (away from ObI Wan) and with Padme, who of course knew Shmi and had actually met her.
      Even then though, Anakin knew he ran the risk of being expelled from the Order. He actually says he's prepared for that in the novel, but he's willing to take the risk for the sake of his mom. I so think they should have included that line in the movie, because it makes him appear less selfish. That he was willing to put his career and dreams on the line to help his mom.

    • @annavg.9976
      @annavg.9976 3 года назад

      @@englishlady9797 I used to read SW books. I read the Thrawn Trilogy and was going to read Dark Saber. You make some good points and back them with your readings.
      I was going by the general feel of it all. Overall, I think fear of attachment was what killed off the Jedi. This was killed off by Jedi philosophical and consequent dogmatic changes in the way they approached the force - Tython era concept vs a bureaucratized, even regimented concept. Frankly, I remember disliking Obi Wan's teachings when I was a child in the 70s. It just didn't seem right to me. It was all summed up with his comment about blasters to Han and Luke vs the old ways. In some ways his old Jedi arrogance persisted. Like he learned nothing from the Jedi purge and fall of the Republic.
      I liked Yoda even less with his self help infomercial righteous gobbledygook. Reading the Old Republic comics changed my views of the Jedi. They were more human than the monkish obi wan and Yoda type of Jedi.
      Like growing a plant in the ground vs growing it in a pot and guiding it (as in bonsais especially) the Jedi did unnatural things (a la Palpatine, lol). Which method produces a stronger plant? The potted one is more aesthetic but not as strong. Subjecting yourself to the will of the force is entering a hive mind and even robotic trance like state. There has to be a more balanced relationship involving a more balanced relationship between being and force. Like with the Bendu in Rebels or the Lothwolves. They showed how the force really should be understood. It isn't meant to be controlled yet the Bendu was a peaceful being.
      It probably was like this when attachment was allowed. Stifling dogma ruins everything as it produces a being more susceptible to fear and less capable of free thought. Trying to control everything is a fear. It will be interesting to see how the Jedi approached the force when they could marry more in detail. I think we are going to see that a more and more formalized and dogmatic concept of the force is part of the plan that made Palpatine's victory possible and that it was set up over many, many decades by Sith infiltrators behind the scenes in many different positions in the Republic and maybe even among the Jedi, chipping away at more ancient and natural concepts of using the force.

  • @jrickducking6685
    @jrickducking6685 3 года назад

    Count dooku: think anakin! think! You been always been enslave!

  • @micahlevine6543
    @micahlevine6543 3 года назад

    I say in the bad batch they squad leads the clone rebellion on kamino but like rogue one they tie up loose ends in the series finale

  • @meepistired
    @meepistired 3 года назад

    Clones deserve better.

  • @jadelee2501
    @jadelee2501 3 года назад

    The problem with that is he can’t defy the counsel and free all the clone troopers just to justify why he hates slavery.

  • @emperorvader283
    @emperorvader283 3 года назад +1

    You keep saying the Clone Wars was 4 years, but I thought it was 3?

  • @EpicMuttonChops
    @EpicMuttonChops 3 года назад

    because the clones are a military, and no Jedi ever realizes that the military is a subtler form of slavery
    same as irl

  • @OldManBedrock
    @OldManBedrock 3 года назад +1

    must’ve lost a dice game

  • @NessaEllenesse
    @NessaEllenesse 3 года назад +1

    Clone wars series induced a serious plot hole. Rationally after everything that happened Anakin should be demanding every inhibtor chip removed

    • @Cthulhuwarlord
      @Cthulhuwarlord 3 года назад

      Palpatine didn’t care what Vader thought

  • @lucky_shot8331
    @lucky_shot8331 3 года назад

    Me reading the title of the video: That! That is a good question explain magic man

  • @KingZuma
    @KingZuma 3 года назад

    Imagine if Fives would have successfully killed Palpatine? So many juicy possibilities

  • @teegirl4568
    @teegirl4568 3 года назад +1

    Once Anakin turned to the dark side, and embraced evil, would he care in the least about the clones?

    • @tyvernoverlord5363
      @tyvernoverlord5363 3 года назад

      Some semblance of prior care for the 501st did bleed over into Vader once he actually became Vader and "killed" Anakin.

  • @Stanley_Wilkinson
    @Stanley_Wilkinson 3 года назад

    Can you do a video on what would have happened if only the Son died on Mortis and the Father and Daughter left with Anakin, Obi Wan and Ahsoka

  • @fakenewsinformed6303
    @fakenewsinformed6303 2 года назад

    What was Operation Knightfall, then, but an effort to restore the Republic and its values of liberty, self-determinism, and law?

  • @iszox2973
    @iszox2973 3 года назад +1

    1:35 Ironic

  • @DanielA-no9xv
    @DanielA-no9xv 3 года назад +3

    No view 7 likes thats what i like to see

  • @captainjumper626
    @captainjumper626 3 года назад +1

    The war was three years. Not four

  • @hungryracoon5890
    @hungryracoon5890 3 года назад

    Because by definition the clones were not slaves they were indentured servants

  • @arthurbriand2175
    @arthurbriand2175 3 года назад +2

    Why isn't there a title associated to Jedi knights, like master or padawan? Shouldn't it be "Sir Anakin Skywalker"?

    • @yeudler41
      @yeudler41 3 года назад +2

      I think it's still "Master," but I'm not sure. The Younglings in the Council room said "Master Skywalker," even though he was still a Knight.

    • @arthurbriand2175
      @arthurbriand2175 3 года назад

      @@yeudler41 I thought they were just trolling him about his tantrum in the council and that's why he killed them.

    • @wisconsinwintergreen6296
      @wisconsinwintergreen6296 3 года назад

      In Rebels, the Bendu refers to Kanan with Jedi Knight after his name, as “Kanan Jarrus, Jedi Knight”. It could just be put after their name.

    • @arthurbriand2175
      @arthurbriand2175 3 года назад

      @@wisconsinwintergreen6296 What i meant was in the second person, a dialog, apart from their rank, what is the title you should adress them with. "Kanan Jarrrus Jedi knight" would not be how you talk to him. I was just wondering how it would sound if they were actualluy referred as "Sir".

    • @yeudler41
      @yeudler41 3 года назад +2

      @@arthurbriand2175 Possibly. But Ahsoka often said "Master Skywalker...," because Knights can train Padawans. I'm honestly just speculating.

  • @slycooper5278
    @slycooper5278 3 года назад +1

    He didn't have the rank of Master....

  • @Jones_707
    @Jones_707 3 года назад

    You should make stickers

  • @benkenobi1907
    @benkenobi1907 3 года назад

    My allegiance is to the republic to democracy

  • @dustypilgrimmedia8423
    @dustypilgrimmedia8423 Год назад

    Unpaid internships aren't bad when it's a way to get out of class in highschool though 😂 ah the good days when I didn't have to worry about medical bills now I don't make enough to buy medical insurance.