I find it hilarious how people underestimated this episode and thought it was gonna be boring. They delivered back to back peak episodes this season. Thank you, Studio Bones.
well this chapter sucked in the manga, but the anime did a much better job. overall the anime does a better job than the manga in this arc because in the manga it's just a giant mess and you don't understand half of the arguments or reasons for things because nothing makes sense
@@leodavinci9682 it’s not that it sucked, it’s just that the shipping discourse in the fandom made this battle very controversial and cringe in a sense. I admit it was cringy and unsettling reading it in the manga. And I can understand some criticisms for the chapters adapted, but this direction was necessary for Horikoshi to tell the story he wanted to tell. And he has my utmost respect for being so bold and not being scared to tackle something like this.
@@gr8atness someone who talks about the mha fandom thinks he deserves to have an opinion 😂. yeah get blocked. learn to read instead of taking part in worthless bs from a degenerate community
I was really looking forward to see what the hell they were teasing with all might but I wasnt even mad about not getting it after this episode was over
It seems like people forget that Toga's obsession with blood was explained in season 5. It's because of her quirk that she has that obsession. Not because she just likes it. Some quirks affect personalities based on their capabilities. Hence, a quirk that requires blood to function, makes the user like/be obsessed with blood.
@@RomarioBishop Oh my god every time you guys find an opportunity you bring this shit up even if it has nothing to do with it. Togas quirk and why it rewired her brain was explained perfectly fine in season 5. Chances are people forgot because it's been 3ish years since season 5.
Quirks doesn't affect personality tho, it was just some bs theory made up by the Liberation Army. Re-Destro told the same thing to Shigaraki, that his personality revolves around destroying because that's what his quirk do and yet his backstory totally disproved that. It's the same for Toga. She's not inherently obsessed by blood because "genetics", she just had an interest for it because that's what her power is based on, just like Sato is logically interested in bakery because his quirk is based on sugar for example. Except that in Toga's case, it turned into an obsession because her parents violently tried to repress that side of her.
@@maniac7452 I think that's a better explanation overall. Her quirk essentially gave her the interest in blood, but constantly supressing it and holding back made it what it is now. But even then, quirks are still stated to affect personality and emotions directly. You can definitely look up the info, as it's stated in the wikis
@@michaellopez9294 Wikis are written and edited by fans who doesn't always take the time to understand the work they wrote about, their fiabiliy and value as an argument to analyze the worldbuilding or such character is pretty much close to zero. As for the idea that quirks affect personality, no it's a total nonsense. If we list every character presented in MHA, Toga is literally the only one who could eventually back up this theory but I've already explained why it doesn't work. Like for example, what's the correlation between Shinso, Denki, Kirishima, Iida or Mina's personality and their quirks ? If anything it's even the total opposite, emotions and personality affect quirks, as evidenced by Toya's flames growing stronger depending of his stress/anger or Geten developping the ability to change the temperature of his ice after seeing Re-Destro get burned.
This episode was peak. the VA's for both Ochaco and Toga really delivered masterclass levels of acting. The music was absolutely incredible as well. Had me in tears by the end but in awe the whole time. Bones really delivered AGAIN!
One thing that most people forget in mha, but quirks affect people’s thoughts, like with toga she has a biological want for blood, she did try to suppress it but this need eventually took over
Quirks doesn't affect personality, at least not more than any other physical trait. This idea was just a baseless theory from the Liberation Army, Re-Destro literally told the same thing to Shigaraki to belittle him, by claiming all he can do is destroy since that's his quirk, but his backstory proved it's just bs. Toga doesn't "need" blood or anything, her quirk is based on some external factor so she was logically interested by that. Just like Sato is interested by bakery and desserts because his quirk rely on sugar, except in Toga's case it turned to obsession because her parents tried to suppress it. Nothing biological in that, it's just psychology.
@@maniac7452 Yeahh, because, psychologically (in most cases), the more you are FORCED to suppress something you want or interested in, the more you ended up wanting it or even became addicted/obsessed over it
Yeah, you're totally not understanding Toga. Her drive isn't to kill or even hurt others. Her drive was a fascination with blood and to drink it. She didn't start out hurting others. That bird that she said fell down from a tree really did fall down - we saw a different perspective of that same incident in an earlier season. Toga's tragedy is that she didn't get the help she needed in order to understand her quirk and her urges, so she never developed a healthy way of expressing them. Her descent into hurting others and murder was a result of her repressed urges finding an outlet after being under pressure for so long.
@@BlakeN-o6l meh, idk, everything syd.a.m said makes sense and can be deduced by what horikoshi has given us regarding toga's character and story, he just didnt explicitly tell us that her violent nature isnt really a nature at all, it was just something that built up as toga aged because she never discovered a healthy way to control her urges
@@nosyawnosyaw6749 Bro she got stabbed in the fucking chest like 3 times, Naruto hasn't put himself in such a scenario of vulnerability even against Sasuke and whatnot he had ninetails regen and fighting ability to match the opponents. Other times of saving were Rhetoric influenced. Here, Ochaco took a life-threatening risk hoping that she got through to the villain
This hit hard for all the kids who were bullied and misunderstood. Toga was a victim and the only people who didn't further victimize her were the villians
Toga is another example of people feeling shackled by the perception of their quirks. We’ve seen multiple examples that the quirk you are born with affects the way you are perceived in society. Shinso grew up with people telling him that he was a villain because of his villainous quirk. Shoji and Spinner were marginalized because of their heteromorph quirks. The Todoroki family was destroyed because of Endeavor’s obsession with creating a “masterpiece” with the perfect quirk. Now, we see Toga felt like she had to wear a mask to repress herself because her normal self wouldn’t fit in with society. Instead of people helping her deal with her urges and finding a healthier outlet, she was told to just bottle everything up. Naturally, this didn’t help at all and only made the problem worse. I liked the symbolism after Ochaco’s quirk awakening where she said that she wanted to touch the pain inside of Toga’s heart. Given the nature of her quirk, Ochaco is saying that she wants to take all of that pain inside of Toga and make it “weightless” so that Toga doesn’t have to feel weighed down by societal expectation. That moment was a nice touch to end on.
The same could be said for Bakugou. He was born with an impressive, flashy and heroic looking quirk. Which is why everyone was gassing him up telling him that he’d be a great hero one day. Which only inflated his ego, pride and gave him a mix of both a superiority and inferiority complex. Especially an inferiority complex whenever Izuku was around, cause he felt like Izuku had something in him that he lacked when it came to being a hero, which led to the bullying. Or you’ll probably be born without a quirk like Izuku and Aoyama who won’t have to deal with these problems except for being looked down on by everyone in society for being born without a special meta-ability. A lot of people say MHA barely has world building, but I think it has really good world building on a societal sense. It’s very interesting to see how other characters like Izuku, Bakugou, Shinso, Shoji, Spinner and Toga are perceived in society based on what quirk they’re born with (or not have a quirk at all), because it feels like something that would happen in our world if we suddenly just had super powers. I always found how MHA’s world was fundamentally changed due to the appearance of quirks and how it’s changed their society from then to now to be very interesting.
*All this time, all Toga really needed was a person to accept her and her love. Her life really has been sad, so to finally have someone like Uraraka reach out to her, yeah, I’d smile too... :,)*
This episode shocked me in the manga. I had decided in my head I knew where the Toga battle was going, and then these chapters came and COMPLETELY threw everything I thought through a loop. Not only was this beyond anything I tried to predict, but it changed the entire dang character for both Toga and Uraraka that perfectly explained the characters. A character that freaked me out but didn't really have much to write home about, and one I genuinely didn't think was possible for me to enjoy more as my 2nd favorite character right behind Izuku Midoriya. Sad Man's Death Parade continues as Toga looks at Touya go down from a distance. Losing yet another person that actually "supported" her. (He cares more than he lets on, but Touya always makes it confusing regardless.) Spare a thought for Horikoshi hand drawing a gajillion Twice duplicates. I seem to recall these chapters being shorter if they had wide shots of the Twice cluster. For obvious reasons. And now this unending, expanding cluster is essentially becoming a monster that reaches and swallows. Jiro, Tsu, and Uraraka caught in no time flat. They get past Pixie-Bob's Earthflow which was their only way to contain the copy storm. But once it got up and over, it could now be expanded to the fullest with no Dabi fire or earth walls stopping it even if it's happening in OTHER places too. Now squashing these heroes is harder than it looks because you can only have so many people on top of you in this situation before their weight is placed on something else rather than the person beneath them, and I don't think the Twice clones breathe oxygen with how they disappear so there might be more air in this area now with Dabi gone easier. That and these characters survive ENORMOUS explosions with little effort, and have crazy durability feats. So there's still hope as overwhelming as all of this is. Uraraka sees Toga looking at the Dabi field and knows it has to be her with all the other duplicates trying to trample the heroes. Which...doesn't match. So her head is completely elsewhere. Uraraka starts actually putting together Toga's mindset knowing how she has thought about affection all this time must be at a genuine shock it's not what she originally thought with her love of Twice not being enough. Uraraka has given genuine thought to Toga's thought process and how events would make her feel based on what she knows about her. The more she sees, the more she knows it's not just a giant ball of crazy and there is emotional logic. Hate and love don't mix. And obsession confuses. Uraraka wants to see what is actually underneath all of this. And with that want, comes empathy. Uraraka is evolving HER emotional understanding as well, and is using more strategies to empathize. Even under high stress, even with the threat of death repeating, even with her friends in danger it's not that she doesn't ignore the danger of her friends, she just doesn't forget ANY of the things she wants. There's a lot of people in pain, but that doesn't bar Toga from that list. And solving HER pain is the best way out. Uraraka is getting more and more advanced with her empath strategies. More and more of Toga's past comes out. One can assume she didn't get help or was beyond it. But they DID get her help. The HELP was the messed up one. Saying something is wrong and assuming everyone knows it is not the same as explaining WHY something is wrong. She is drawn to use her quirk because of her affection, and they just say let's purge this side of who you are. Not to cope, not how to apply, just get rid of it. Seems simple considering what she's drawn to but your quirk and your personality are connected. So it's just such a stupid thing to ask of this little girl who has no comprehension of it all. It's true her desire for blood and her desire for affection are not ENTIRELY one to one. (how can she receive love if everyone she loves dies when she displays?) But it's literally telling her not to love by telling her this. And it's all she wants. And there are many unique displays of love but they also find their uses for SOMEONE. There's compromise with application. She isn't WRONG for wanting love, she literally can't receive. It's a vicious cycle that she can't escape. It's getting harder and harder to see Himiko Toga because she is devoting harder and harder to her hatred. To confuse the heroes as she was confused. Taking on their many forms and stepping further from what she wants in the process. Teamwork is harder, but the further and further she goes, she has less and less. Toga has no one. She has no one to turn to, and no part of herself shows through this hatred. And even with Uraraka trying to be there for her, she doesn't even believe it. Her Reinfield's syndrome is blocking us from seeing genuine abandonment. And Uraraka gets stabbed. Toga needs no identification for herself, she knows what she wants and who she wants to be. She doesn't need a new villain name because she is who she is and won't hide. The other villains changed their names because they evolved into something new. And in a way depending on their paths it hides who they were. Who they are is all that matters and it locks in the time they want to be seen as. Shigaraki respects that but also doesn't need it for himself. He has been a constant. (Even though Tenko is gone so it still applies. He and AFO worked through that identification. Part of why Shigaraki has such a strong sense of self in fact. Which keeps him alive and in command within AFS for now.) For Toga they accept her constant. You want love and you want blood. Seek it out and you be you. No pity, no shame, just go forward and you can stick with us as you look. And now that the heroes are here, they are taking everything away from her. So she is trying to maintain herself and what she has/had. And so long as she is a constant, she can't be taken away from who she is. So then the question is simply this for Uraraka. Who are you? Tell me. This rampage gets more and more terrifying as with every passing second, the doubling doubles in speed. You can see her from miles away and we see so many that literally can't defend themselves from her. Hawks only has his blade and has to defend Tokoyami. Iida has burst engines and can't stand up after his double turbo. And the Todoroki's gave everything to just be together. They put everything that they are on the line and are now all lying in heaps. We've seen them from top down and know their passions well. And the giant swarm of Toga is essentially saying, "What about me?" Uraraka knows it's her own personal drive that keeps her here for Toga. She wants people to smile. And she couldn't understand Toga's happiness. Her obsession. Who she is. But does that mean that she can't exist? Does that mean she can't be happy? Is there a way for her problems to be resolved too or is there no way to coexist? You being so happy when you rarely get to be is still a good thing. So how do we meet in the middle? She wants EVERYONE'S problems to float away. And with that, we FINALLY get something I was prepared for. Uraraka's quirk evolution. Her weight limit is non-existent as she keeps going in one direction. So she doesn't get her vertigo recoil, and she refuses to harm and spin everything out when she has the ability to ground everything and turn everything upside-down as well. She can control gravity, but she just wants to take the weight off of EVERYONE. Just like Shigaraki's 5 finger touch, she can spread, and she creates an atmosphere where things work on HER rules. And she has the full understanding to make it so. (still doesn't take away the many other gravity breaking rules she has and demonstrates, she laughs at physics) And to float away Toga's problems? She offers her blood. Telling her you need love too. You need happiness too. Here's mine. I love my parents and wanted them to live better. I love people and want them safe. I love Izuku Midoriya the boy who showed me selflessness and passion to another level. And you need love, so I'll love you too. So you can have yourself and your peace for yourself. Toga sees it at last, and tells her what she thinks. How people wouldn't let her love. How she couldn't smile. And while the league gets brought down, Uraraka says but I'm still here. I see your smile. I see your love. And its still beautiful like everyone else's. You're human. And because you have so much, that makes your love even more beautiful. And Toga let's go of her hate, and she can finally start healing from the pain of losing Jin...as the power vanishes at last. What an outstanding episode. It is SO great.
The society, especially the environment around someone does make a very big impact on how someone come to be. Toga grew up being told that she's not normal without being explained why she the way she is or how to control it. She just told repress it and to act like the norm and that's what makes her the way she is now😞
@@darealkezz806 she didn't choose to like blood, that obsession is linked to her quirk. Also what was she supposed to do? Obviously killing people is wrong, but she was ostracized by everyone since she was a child, even her parents went as far as to call her a "demon child". Not to mention all the physical and verbal abuse she went through, simply because she acted upon her natural instincts. If she had received proper quirk counseling instead of being forced to shut those feelings and urges away, she wouldn't have turned out like this.
@@marcel6710 The problem with that line of thinking is that people in the worst of situations still use their pain to do good. We can sympathise with her situation whilst understanding that she still made the choice to indulge in evil. Same with Dabi, same with every villian in the show. We don’t choose how the world treats us, we choose how we react to it.
@@marcel6710 The world is unfair and she was obviously born in adverse circumstances. She still had many choices she made up until this point in the show. It’s sad what she went through obviously but that by no means excuses her behaviour or makes me feel like she wasn’t accountable for her actions. If everyone born in horrible circumstances all ended up like her then she would be excused, but the reality is that the minority chose the path she did, which means she is wholly responsible.
@@darealkezz806 damn you actually worded that super well. I think I may have slightly misinterpreted your original statement. Obviously she's responsible for her actions and the way she reacts to her trauma. I wouldn't say she necessarily "chose" to be that way though, rather she was kinda pushed into this way of living. I'd actually put more blame on her parents, especially since she was still pretty young when she became a villain
toga became like that because the people around him, his friends and even his own family didn't want or understand about the toga. I was really touched by this episode
Toga's character arc is such a bittersweet tragedy. She's not evil. But in a cruel sense of irony victims tend to become oppressors. It's a desperate self-destructive call for help and ppl who don't even TRY to understand that are truly villains. "No talk, only fight" comments from MHA haters remind me of why the world is broken. We all need to be more like Ochako.
This anime is not good for my heart, i was like "how are they going to top last episode?" and goddamn they did match it i felt like i was choking the entire episode
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Growing up gay in a very conservative place I always thought it was the worst thing that happened to me. I always lived with fear. Fear of my family dont loving me once they found out. Fear that my friends wouldnt want to talk to me anymore. After living a while I realized almost everyone has something they think is their “worst thing that happened to them”. Most of my friends are straight, and I realized for them it could be height, not being “good looking”, having a rough childhood, not having support from anyone, and a long etc, whatever they think has ruined their lives or make people look down on them. This episode hits hard because we can all relate to Toga. She had to pusk a mask on to try to be accepted, like we all do, but still lived in fear bc she knew her “real self” would put people away. She just wanted acceptance, like we all do. Great reaction!!! I ugly cried too and wanted to see your reaction XD, at this point MHA should have a warning bc damn
Gravity Zero is the perfect name for Ochaco's quirk, she takes the society weight off of you and reduces the gravity pushing on your shoulders to zero. Honestly, I was torn between putting Ochaco in the same basket as Sakura and putting her as one of the best female characters in the anime cuz even if she had a big impact on Izuku and the vigilante arc I wasn't sure if that's enough compared to other characters, but after this episode if somebody tries and discredit her I won't hesitate to fight him HAHA
"Have you ever had someone try to reach out to you this much and understand you this much" Yeah she did his name was Jin aka Twice and they killed him.
Toga: "am I cute?" Uraraka: "you are the cutest in the world" Me: have you seen Mirko? Also me: that would be more in the "hot" side Me: have you seen Momo? Other me: debatable, but at the very least she is underage Me: have you seen nezu? Others me: ok, yeah, he's cute af
9:35 this bit kinda reminds me of natural law theory! the belief that humans all naturally have the same ideas and morals, so its interesting to think what happens if you were to isolate someone from others, that theres a possibility they wouldnt have the same morals
Look man I’m not saying Toga isn’t a little crazy, but nobody did that chick any favors when she was growing up😬poor kid was told over and over she wasn’t normal and to stop being who she is
if she had that unconditional love and parents who cared and advocated for her, she could've been the kindest, happiest person ever ☹️ (ofc her and ochako would've grown up together too)
@@571danu id def be concerned but i wouldnt't act like her parents did? like not even with the hindsight that she would become a villain down the line, just as a parent i would not treat my child like that.
@@YourAverageLoser763 right !! as a parent, you have a responsiblity to love your kids like they're your everything no matter what. It's hard but the least they could do is say "himiko, sit. What's making you want to drink blood all the time? what can we do to help?"
@kashefajaved6394 YES! If her parents gave her the time of day instead of calling her A FUCKING DEMON LIKE WHAT? She would have probably turned out pretty ok she might have even discovered *something* (manga spoiler if y'know y'know) she can do with her quirk to help people! She could have been a hero if her parents were just decent, they didn't even have to be perfect just decent.
I mean I think you can definitely make the case that many morals are absolute and don't depend on culture. That was the mainstream view up until very recently.
I’ve always found toga to be a very beautifully underrated character. Like most of her scenes in the manga and anime are like drawn really well. There’s more detail with her. Idk I’ve always liked her super wide smile. She’s definitely the cutest.
The norm is dictated by genetics, not society. Society itself is the consequence of that. It's also why Toga Himiko can't fit in, her genes made her deviate from the norm so much she's basically a predator.
Even if it is an villain that must be defeated, Ochako saved the heart of Toga, just as Izuku wished to save Shigaraki. This episode gives us hope for the future.
It's really interesting that the reactor just immediately jumping to the conclusion that Toga MUST have hurt the bird without considering where she is coming from at all. Because Toga is a villain, so she must always be lying and wanting to hurt or kill people? Is that right? You said it yourself, it's not that black and white.
@@NightOwlReader2790 I saw a rock next to the bird so I threw the possibility out there. I didn’t say she DEFINITELY did it but it was possible. I mean we didn’t see it so anything is possible 🤷🏻♀️
2:38 You're kind of mixing right into the way of thinking that got her into this point. Because of the nature of her quick, she's been misjudged without much thought.
Toga is one of two named queer characters in the show (the other was Magna), and her damage is all around growing up being told that the way her body felt compelled to express love and affection was disgusting and abhorrent.
From reading the manga i thought this episode was gonna be boring, but they adopted it so much better. I didn't think I would feel so much during this episode as I did
Anime only here, I was lowkey dissing Ochako for her roamance discussion even though I knew the context. In midst of Shiggy/Deku, Gentle/Nagant, Bakugo still being down, AFO/ All Might, Dabi's conclusion looking past these events a girls love talk seemed cliched and generic to me but man this episode did a 180 for me and by the end of the episode I was sobbing and cheering Toga for how adorable she looked. I can imagine why manga panels might leave a different impression but man Uraraka's Va last season on a girls declaration episode and this one killed it. Last I felt so much passion was in Jin Woo Solo leveling ep 4 fight scene. 😍
I relate to toga sm I feel all her rage how annoying it is to hear the same thing over when that’s JUST HER- 😔🥺💔 that ending “I was told NOT to smile-“ her softest voice broke me that’s so sad- 😭 being brought into therapy to “fix” a child but was gone abt the wrong way😞
Am I the only one who cant seem to empathize with toga? Like she needs to be locked up for life, I feel like the show is trying too hard to make us understand why she is the way she is but I cant see her as the victim. She seems like a narcissist who blames everyone else except herself.
it's simple, you just lack reading comprehension, Toga wasn’t taught to use her Quirk in a healthy way, only to re-press it, clearly her behavior and blood-lust is quirk related, which made her feelings explode. If she had been taught other ways to express her love she wouldn’t have been a villain. The parents and society in general made her that way. your child is vulnerable and openly admitting to you she doesn't understand why people behave the way they do and why she's behaving the way she does and your first thought is thinking you birthed a demon? Instead of helping her early they just told her to hide it and " be normal " till the dam broke during highschool.
I can empathize with her, shes done horrible things and its just tragic that she was born the way she was, we can all easily criticize her but i dont think it was her fault to be born with a quirk that literally makes her want to drink other people's blood, she should have been institutionalized as soon as her parents saw her eating birds among her other dangerous tendencies, but everyone in her life, including quirk society failed her and now you have a radicalized indivual who joined a terrorist group because she felt there wasnt any other place for her to go to
With all of the league your supposed to feel horid for them as its like they were set up to fail from the start. But your also supposed to separate that and acknowledge the crimes they have done. Toga was set up to fail, first her quirk makes her want and almost needs to drink blood. This isnt her fault she was just born like that, it prob would have gotten better if her parents y'know actually parented her and got her actual help instead of shunning her to the point she became a ticking time bomb. Once the bomb set off there was no going back and now we have a teen who got a taste of freedom finally and wants to keep it. Shes not a good person but its understandable how she became this way.
Let put it in analogy, imagine toga is LGBTQ+ person and the society try so hard to make her be "normal" to be accepted in society. Her parents said that she isn't normal and should behave like what "normal" people do. She just end up bottle up her feeling and it just explode, that why she make bad desicion. It like saying to a child that you aren't belong in this world. You don't need to excuse her action of killing people and all, you just need to understand how she end up like that.
Even tho I completely disagree with you, I think this episode was very beautiful and sad and make me cry, I do agree with you in the sense of it's a war and this attack actually accomplished nothing. Not a single hero was killed or civilian. If they were, they got killed off screen which honestly is super lame when that shit happens in anything
@@sterben_alone3083 and you are allowed to disagree 👍🏼 and i agree that it was beautiful, we seen toga get sort of closer she needed cause everyone treated her like a monster when she was young instead of trying to understand her.. and yea death off screen always a bad idea
@@アキコ2003 you literally have a comment on this channel on a jjk episode of you simping for nanami 🤦🏻♂️ whatever you going through i hope you defeat it
This episode was boring it was fodder/jobber of MHA ,they wasted orecious time of real fights tjata ctually matter ,instead we got these goofy talk about boy/girl romance froppy mumble jumbo no sence
I find it hilarious how people underestimated this episode and thought it was gonna be boring. They delivered back to back peak episodes this season. Thank you, Studio Bones.
well this chapter sucked in the manga, but the anime did a much better job. overall the anime does a better job than the manga in this arc because in the manga it's just a giant mess and you don't understand half of the arguments or reasons for things because nothing makes sense
@@leodavinci9682 you lost me at "this chapter sucked in the manga" lmao cause what are you even on about
@@leodavinci9682 it’s not that it sucked, it’s just that the shipping discourse in the fandom made this battle very controversial and cringe in a sense. I admit it was cringy and unsettling reading it in the manga. And I can understand some criticisms for the chapters adapted, but this direction was necessary for Horikoshi to tell the story he wanted to tell. And he has my utmost respect for being so bold and not being scared to tackle something like this.
@@gr8atness someone who talks about the mha fandom thinks he deserves to have an opinion 😂. yeah get blocked. learn to read instead of taking part in worthless bs from a degenerate community
I was really looking forward to see what the hell they were teasing with all might but I wasnt even mad about not getting it after this episode was over
It seems like people forget that Toga's obsession with blood was explained in season 5. It's because of her quirk that she has that obsession. Not because she just likes it. Some quirks affect personalities based on their capabilities. Hence, a quirk that requires blood to function, makes the user like/be obsessed with blood.
probably cause bones butchered mva in season 5
@@RomarioBishop Oh my god every time you guys find an opportunity you bring this shit up even if it has nothing to do with it. Togas quirk and why it rewired her brain was explained perfectly fine in season 5. Chances are people forgot because it's been 3ish years since season 5.
Quirks doesn't affect personality tho, it was just some bs theory made up by the Liberation Army. Re-Destro told the same thing to Shigaraki, that his personality revolves around destroying because that's what his quirk do and yet his backstory totally disproved that.
It's the same for Toga. She's not inherently obsessed by blood because "genetics", she just had an interest for it because that's what her power is based on, just like Sato is logically interested in bakery because his quirk is based on sugar for example. Except that in Toga's case, it turned into an obsession because her parents violently tried to repress that side of her.
@@maniac7452 I think that's a better explanation overall. Her quirk essentially gave her the interest in blood, but constantly supressing it and holding back made it what it is now. But even then, quirks are still stated to affect personality and emotions directly. You can definitely look up the info, as it's stated in the wikis
@@michaellopez9294 Wikis are written and edited by fans who doesn't always take the time to understand the work they wrote about, their fiabiliy and value as an argument to analyze the worldbuilding or such character is pretty much close to zero.
As for the idea that quirks affect personality, no it's a total nonsense. If we list every character presented in MHA, Toga is literally the only one who could eventually back up this theory but I've already explained why it doesn't work. Like for example, what's the correlation between Shinso, Denki, Kirishima, Iida or Mina's personality and their quirks ?
If anything it's even the total opposite, emotions and personality affect quirks, as evidenced by Toya's flames growing stronger depending of his stress/anger or Geten developping the ability to change the temperature of his ice after seeing Re-Destro get burned.
This episode was peak. the VA's for both Ochaco and Toga really delivered masterclass levels of acting. The music was absolutely incredible as well. Had me in tears by the end but in awe the whole time. Bones really delivered AGAIN!
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Uraraka’s VA said that she cried while recording her lines for this episode
One thing that most people forget in mha, but quirks affect people’s thoughts, like with toga she has a biological want for blood, she did try to suppress it but this need eventually took over
YES!! Same with how Toyas is linked directly to his emotions and how he feels can fuel his fire beyond belief…
Quirks doesn't affect personality, at least not more than any other physical trait. This idea was just a baseless theory from the Liberation Army, Re-Destro literally told the same thing to Shigaraki to belittle him, by claiming all he can do is destroy since that's his quirk, but his backstory proved it's just bs.
Toga doesn't "need" blood or anything, her quirk is based on some external factor so she was logically interested by that. Just like Sato is interested by bakery and desserts because his quirk rely on sugar, except in Toga's case it turned to obsession because her parents tried to suppress it. Nothing biological in that, it's just psychology.
@@maniac7452 Yeahh, because, psychologically (in most cases), the more you are FORCED to suppress something you want or interested in, the more you ended up wanting it or even became addicted/obsessed over it
Yeah, you're totally not understanding Toga. Her drive isn't to kill or even hurt others. Her drive was a fascination with blood and to drink it. She didn't start out hurting others. That bird that she said fell down from a tree really did fall down - we saw a different perspective of that same incident in an earlier season. Toga's tragedy is that she didn't get the help she needed in order to understand her quirk and her urges, so she never developed a healthy way of expressing them. Her descent into hurting others and murder was a result of her repressed urges finding an outlet after being under pressure for so long.
@@BlakeN-o6l meh, idk, everything syd.a.m said makes sense and can be deduced by what horikoshi has given us regarding toga's character and story, he just didnt explicitly tell us that her violent nature isnt really a nature at all, it was just something that built up as toga aged because she never discovered a healthy way to control her urges
Ochaco has the biggest heart on the Power Scaling
Not bigger than naruto tho 🤷♂️
@@nosyawnosyaw6749 Bro that shit is VERY close to Naruto. She's similar to Naruto in that respect
@@itspen1594 wrong narutos done this way more than uraraka i love her but narutos heart bigger
@@nosyawnosyaw6749 Bro she got stabbed in the fucking chest like 3 times, Naruto hasn't put himself in such a scenario of vulnerability even against Sasuke and whatnot he had ninetails regen and fighting ability to match the opponents. Other times of saving were Rhetoric influenced. Here, Ochaco took a life-threatening risk hoping that she got through to the villain
@@itspen1594 yeah well naruto got thru every villain , uraraka only 1
This hit hard for all the kids who were bullied and misunderstood. Toga was a victim and the only people who didn't further victimize her were the villians
Toga is another example of people feeling shackled by the perception of their quirks. We’ve seen multiple examples that the quirk you are born with affects the way you are perceived in society. Shinso grew up with people telling him that he was a villain because of his villainous quirk. Shoji and Spinner were marginalized because of their heteromorph quirks. The Todoroki family was destroyed because of Endeavor’s obsession with creating a “masterpiece” with the perfect quirk.
Now, we see Toga felt like she had to wear a mask to repress herself because her normal self wouldn’t fit in with society. Instead of people helping her deal with her urges and finding a healthier outlet, she was told to just bottle everything up. Naturally, this didn’t help at all and only made the problem worse.
I liked the symbolism after Ochaco’s quirk awakening where she said that she wanted to touch the pain inside of Toga’s heart. Given the nature of her quirk, Ochaco is saying that she wants to take all of that pain inside of Toga and make it “weightless” so that Toga doesn’t have to feel weighed down by societal expectation. That moment was a nice touch to end on.
Oh my god that's a very beautiful way to interpret Ochako's quirk🥺 Thank you for saying it now I'm gonna sob even more😭😭
Whoa, I didn't even think of the last point u made like that. Beautiful.
The same could be said for Bakugou. He was born with an impressive, flashy and heroic looking quirk. Which is why everyone was gassing him up telling him that he’d be a great hero one day. Which only inflated his ego, pride and gave him a mix of both a superiority and inferiority complex. Especially an inferiority complex whenever Izuku was around, cause he felt like Izuku had something in him that he lacked when it came to being a hero, which led to the bullying. Or you’ll probably be born without a quirk like Izuku and Aoyama who won’t have to deal with these problems except for being looked down on by everyone in society for being born without a special meta-ability.
A lot of people say MHA barely has world building, but I think it has really good world building on a societal sense. It’s very interesting to see how other characters like Izuku, Bakugou, Shinso, Shoji, Spinner and Toga are perceived in society based on what quirk they’re born with (or not have a quirk at all), because it feels like something that would happen in our world if we suddenly just had super powers. I always found how MHA’s world was fundamentally changed due to the appearance of quirks and how it’s changed their society from then to now to be very interesting.
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I was actually going to originally mention Bakugo, but felt I already had enough examples so I left him out 😅
But I completely agree.
*All this time, all Toga really needed was a person to accept her and her love. Her life really has been sad, so to finally have someone like Uraraka reach out to her, yeah, I’d smile too... :,)*
She needed Jesus Christ
This episode shocked me in the manga. I had decided in my head I knew where the Toga battle was going, and then these chapters came and COMPLETELY threw everything I thought through a loop. Not only was this beyond anything I tried to predict, but it changed the entire dang character for both Toga and Uraraka that perfectly explained the characters. A character that freaked me out but didn't really have much to write home about, and one I genuinely didn't think was possible for me to enjoy more as my 2nd favorite character right behind Izuku Midoriya.
Sad Man's Death Parade continues as Toga looks at Touya go down from a distance. Losing yet another person that actually "supported" her. (He cares more than he lets on, but Touya always makes it confusing regardless.) Spare a thought for Horikoshi hand drawing a gajillion Twice duplicates. I seem to recall these chapters being shorter if they had wide shots of the Twice cluster. For obvious reasons. And now this unending, expanding cluster is essentially becoming a monster that reaches and swallows. Jiro, Tsu, and Uraraka caught in no time flat. They get past Pixie-Bob's Earthflow which was their only way to contain the copy storm. But once it got up and over, it could now be expanded to the fullest with no Dabi fire or earth walls stopping it even if it's happening in OTHER places too. Now squashing these heroes is harder than it looks because you can only have so many people on top of you in this situation before their weight is placed on something else rather than the person beneath them, and I don't think the Twice clones breathe oxygen with how they disappear so there might be more air in this area now with Dabi gone easier. That and these characters survive ENORMOUS explosions with little effort, and have crazy durability feats. So there's still hope as overwhelming as all of this is.
Uraraka sees Toga looking at the Dabi field and knows it has to be her with all the other duplicates trying to trample the heroes. Which...doesn't match. So her head is completely elsewhere. Uraraka starts actually putting together Toga's mindset knowing how she has thought about affection all this time must be at a genuine shock it's not what she originally thought with her love of Twice not being enough. Uraraka has given genuine thought to Toga's thought process and how events would make her feel based on what she knows about her. The more she sees, the more she knows it's not just a giant ball of crazy and there is emotional logic.
Hate and love don't mix. And obsession confuses. Uraraka wants to see what is actually underneath all of this. And with that want, comes empathy. Uraraka is evolving HER emotional understanding as well, and is using more strategies to empathize. Even under high stress, even with the threat of death repeating, even with her friends in danger it's not that she doesn't ignore the danger of her friends, she just doesn't forget ANY of the things she wants. There's a lot of people in pain, but that doesn't bar Toga from that list. And solving HER pain is the best way out. Uraraka is getting more and more advanced with her empath strategies.
More and more of Toga's past comes out. One can assume she didn't get help or was beyond it. But they DID get her help. The HELP was the messed up one. Saying something is wrong and assuming everyone knows it is not the same as explaining WHY something is wrong. She is drawn to use her quirk because of her affection, and they just say let's purge this side of who you are. Not to cope, not how to apply, just get rid of it. Seems simple considering what she's drawn to but your quirk and your personality are connected. So it's just such a stupid thing to ask of this little girl who has no comprehension of it all. It's true her desire for blood and her desire for affection are not ENTIRELY one to one. (how can she receive love if everyone she loves dies when she displays?) But it's literally telling her not to love by telling her this. And it's all she wants. And there are many unique displays of love but they also find their uses for SOMEONE. There's compromise with application. She isn't WRONG for wanting love, she literally can't receive. It's a vicious cycle that she can't escape.
It's getting harder and harder to see Himiko Toga because she is devoting harder and harder to her hatred. To confuse the heroes as she was confused. Taking on their many forms and stepping further from what she wants in the process. Teamwork is harder, but the further and further she goes, she has less and less. Toga has no one. She has no one to turn to, and no part of herself shows through this hatred. And even with Uraraka trying to be there for her, she doesn't even believe it. Her Reinfield's syndrome is blocking us from seeing genuine abandonment. And Uraraka gets stabbed.
Toga needs no identification for herself, she knows what she wants and who she wants to be. She doesn't need a new villain name because she is who she is and won't hide. The other villains changed their names because they evolved into something new. And in a way depending on their paths it hides who they were. Who they are is all that matters and it locks in the time they want to be seen as. Shigaraki respects that but also doesn't need it for himself. He has been a constant. (Even though Tenko is gone so it still applies. He and AFO worked through that identification. Part of why Shigaraki has such a strong sense of self in fact. Which keeps him alive and in command within AFS for now.) For Toga they accept her constant. You want love and you want blood. Seek it out and you be you. No pity, no shame, just go forward and you can stick with us as you look. And now that the heroes are here, they are taking everything away from her. So she is trying to maintain herself and what she has/had. And so long as she is a constant, she can't be taken away from who she is. So then the question is simply this for Uraraka. Who are you? Tell me.
This rampage gets more and more terrifying as with every passing second, the doubling doubles in speed. You can see her from miles away and we see so many that literally can't defend themselves from her. Hawks only has his blade and has to defend Tokoyami. Iida has burst engines and can't stand up after his double turbo. And the Todoroki's gave everything to just be together. They put everything that they are on the line and are now all lying in heaps. We've seen them from top down and know their passions well. And the giant swarm of Toga is essentially saying, "What about me?"
Uraraka knows it's her own personal drive that keeps her here for Toga. She wants people to smile. And she couldn't understand Toga's happiness. Her obsession. Who she is. But does that mean that she can't exist? Does that mean she can't be happy? Is there a way for her problems to be resolved too or is there no way to coexist? You being so happy when you rarely get to be is still a good thing. So how do we meet in the middle? She wants EVERYONE'S problems to float away. And with that, we FINALLY get something I was prepared for. Uraraka's quirk evolution. Her weight limit is non-existent as she keeps going in one direction. So she doesn't get her vertigo recoil, and she refuses to harm and spin everything out when she has the ability to ground everything and turn everything upside-down as well. She can control gravity, but she just wants to take the weight off of EVERYONE. Just like Shigaraki's 5 finger touch, she can spread, and she creates an atmosphere where things work on HER rules. And she has the full understanding to make it so. (still doesn't take away the many other gravity breaking rules she has and demonstrates, she laughs at physics) And to float away Toga's problems? She offers her blood. Telling her you need love too. You need happiness too. Here's mine. I love my parents and wanted them to live better. I love people and want them safe. I love Izuku Midoriya the boy who showed me selflessness and passion to another level. And you need love, so I'll love you too. So you can have yourself and your peace for yourself.
Toga sees it at last, and tells her what she thinks. How people wouldn't let her love. How she couldn't smile. And while the league gets brought down, Uraraka says but I'm still here. I see your smile. I see your love. And its still beautiful like everyone else's. You're human. And because you have so much, that makes your love even more beautiful. And Toga let's go of her hate, and she can finally start healing from the pain of losing Jin...as the power vanishes at last. What an outstanding episode. It is SO great.
The society, especially the environment around someone does make a very big impact on how someone come to be. Toga grew up being told that she's not normal without being explained why she the way she is or how to control it. She just told repress it and to act like the norm and that's what makes her the way she is now😞
She chose to be that way, everyone has a choice to make
@@darealkezz806 she didn't choose to like blood, that obsession is linked to her quirk. Also what was she supposed to do? Obviously killing people is wrong, but she was ostracized by everyone since she was a child, even her parents went as far as to call her a "demon child". Not to mention all the physical and verbal abuse she went through, simply because she acted upon her natural instincts. If she had received proper quirk counseling instead of being forced to shut those feelings and urges away, she wouldn't have turned out like this.
@@marcel6710 The problem with that line of thinking is that people in the worst of situations still use their pain to do good. We can sympathise with her situation whilst understanding that she still made the choice to indulge in evil. Same with Dabi, same with every villian in the show. We don’t choose how the world treats us, we choose how we react to it.
@@marcel6710 The world is unfair and she was obviously born in adverse circumstances. She still had many choices she made up until this point in the show. It’s sad what she went through obviously but that by no means excuses her behaviour or makes me feel like she wasn’t accountable for her actions. If everyone born in horrible circumstances all ended up like her then she would be excused, but the reality is that the minority chose the path she did, which means she is wholly responsible.
@@darealkezz806 damn you actually worded that super well. I think I may have slightly misinterpreted your original statement. Obviously she's responsible for her actions and the way she reacts to her trauma. I wouldn't say she necessarily "chose" to be that way though, rather she was kinda pushed into this way of living. I'd actually put more blame on her parents, especially since she was still pretty young when she became a villain
In a different universe, Ochaco and Toga are besties.
100%
I think you mean scissoring.
@@Jake-w4w9l theyre both 17.
In a diferente universe they are lovers 😂
@@cazarecompensas3373 No cuz Uraraka doesn't love toga 😂
toga became like that because the people around him, his friends and even his own family didn't want or understand about the toga. I was really touched by this episode
This episode was wild.
Toga, character writing is actually master class. A goat. (A masterfully written character)
Toga's character arc is such a bittersweet tragedy. She's not evil. But in a cruel sense of irony victims tend to become oppressors. It's a desperate self-destructive call for help and ppl who don't even TRY to understand that are truly villains. "No talk, only fight" comments from MHA haters remind me of why the world is broken. We all need to be more like Ochako.
This anime is not good for my heart, i was like "how are they going to top last episode?" and goddamn they did match it i felt like i was choking the entire episode
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Growing up gay in a very conservative place I always thought it was the worst thing that happened to me. I always lived with fear. Fear of my family dont loving me once they found out. Fear that my friends wouldnt want to talk to me anymore.
After living a while I realized almost everyone has something they think is their “worst thing that happened to them”. Most of my friends are straight, and I realized for them it could be height, not being “good looking”, having a rough childhood, not having support from anyone, and a long etc, whatever they think has ruined their lives or make people look down on them.
This episode hits hard because we can all relate to Toga. She had to pusk a mask on to try to be accepted, like we all do, but still lived in fear bc she knew her “real self” would put people away. She just wanted acceptance, like we all do.
Great reaction!!! I ugly cried too and wanted to see your reaction XD, at this point MHA should have a warning bc damn
Gravity Zero is the perfect name for Ochaco's quirk, she takes the society weight off of you and reduces the gravity pushing on your shoulders to zero.
Honestly, I was torn between putting Ochaco in the same basket as Sakura and putting her as one of the best female characters in the anime cuz even if she had a big impact on Izuku and the vigilante arc I wasn't sure if that's enough compared to other characters, but after this episode if somebody tries and discredit her I won't hesitate to fight him HAHA
"Have you ever had someone try to reach out to you this much and understand you this much" Yeah she did his name was Jin aka Twice and they killed him.
Toga: "am I cute?"
Uraraka: "you are the cutest in the world"
Me: have you seen Mirko?
Also me: that would be more in the "hot" side
Me: have you seen Momo?
Other me: debatable, but at the very least she is underage
Me: have you seen nezu?
Others me: ok, yeah, he's cute af
9:35 this bit kinda reminds me of natural law theory! the belief that humans all naturally have the same ideas and morals, so its interesting to think what happens if you were to isolate someone from others, that theres a possibility they wouldnt have the same morals
im not amazing at articulating things so if ur interested id recommend looking it up
Look man I’m not saying Toga isn’t a little crazy, but nobody did that chick any favors when she was growing up😬poor kid was told over and over she wasn’t normal and to stop being who she is
if she had that unconditional love and parents who cared and advocated for her, she could've been the kindest, happiest person ever ☹️ (ofc her and ochako would've grown up together too)
What would you do if you constantly caught your kid drinking blood off animals and other kids?
@@571danu id def be concerned but i wouldnt't act like her parents did? like not even with the hindsight that she would become a villain down the line, just as a parent i would not treat my child like that.
@@YourAverageLoser763 right !! as a parent, you have a responsiblity to love your kids like they're your everything no matter what. It's hard but the least they could do is say "himiko, sit. What's making you want to drink blood all the time? what can we do to help?"
@kashefajaved6394 YES! If her parents gave her the time of day instead of calling her A FUCKING DEMON LIKE WHAT? She would have probably turned out pretty ok she might have even discovered *something* (manga spoiler if y'know y'know) she can do with her quirk to help people! She could have been a hero if her parents were just decent, they didn't even have to be perfect just decent.
I mean I think you can definitely make the case that many morals are absolute and don't depend on culture. That was the mainstream view up until very recently.
I’ve always found toga to be a very beautifully underrated character. Like most of her scenes in the manga and anime are like drawn really well. There’s more detail with her. Idk I’ve always liked her super wide smile. She’s definitely the cutest.
MHA was pretty tame throughout - That Stab though is one of the most brutal moments in the series. Such a great episode.
The norm is dictated by genetics, not society. Society itself is the consequence of that. It's also why Toga Himiko can't fit in, her genes made her deviate from the norm so much she's basically a predator.
I can see why some fans love the Ochaco x Toga ship, this was really beautiful.
Even if it is an villain that must be defeated, Ochako saved the heart of Toga, just as Izuku wished to save Shigaraki.
This episode gives us hope for the future.
Ochaco can fix her
Such a beautiful episode, it broke me...
This episode broke me man
"i love Izuku AND ochacco" toga my bisexual icon
Just finished bleach reaction 😅 perfect timing Lexis 👍
YOU SHOULD WATCH THE ENDING SONGGG. THERES SOMETHING IN TH CREDITS THAT CHANGE SINCE THE PAST FEW EPISODES
Ya There's definitely a line that shouldn't be crossed. Definitely a complex situation with Himiko
What's tragic is that in S5 x 21Toga was drinking the blood of Saito, the boy she had a crush on.
Tears in my togachako eyes 😞
It's really interesting that the reactor just immediately jumping to the conclusion that Toga MUST have hurt the bird without considering where she is coming from at all. Because Toga is a villain, so she must always be lying and wanting to hurt or kill people? Is that right? You said it yourself, it's not that black and white.
@@NightOwlReader2790 I saw a rock next to the bird so I threw the possibility out there. I didn’t say she DEFINITELY did it but it was possible. I mean we didn’t see it so anything is possible 🤷🏻♀️
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You're kind of mixing right into the way of thinking that got her into this point. Because of the nature of her quick, she's been misjudged without much thought.
Did you miss the special ending scene?
Best Talk no Jutsu.
I think it's gonna be 3 weeks in a row maybe.. Just maybe
The Best episodio ❤❤❤❤
I like your shirts
Don't cry you going to make me do it 2 😢😅
Toga is one of two named queer characters in the show (the other was Magna), and her damage is all around growing up being told that the way her body felt compelled to express love and affection was disgusting and abhorrent.
Tiger is also trans
blue lock season 2 episode 1 aired yesterday will u be reacting?
Well its confirmed bro. MHA hate is invalid 😂This show has been nothing but straight peak
I love your videos
PEAK!!!
From reading the manga i thought this episode was gonna be boring, but they adopted it so much better. I didn't think I would feel so much during this episode as I did
That's crazy because in the manga it was hype as shit
Anime only here, I was lowkey dissing Ochako for her roamance discussion even though I knew the context. In midst of Shiggy/Deku, Gentle/Nagant, Bakugo still being down, AFO/ All Might, Dabi's conclusion looking past these events a girls love talk seemed cliched and generic to me but man this episode did a 180 for me and by the end of the episode I was sobbing and cheering Toga for how adorable she looked.
I can imagine why manga panels might leave a different impression but man Uraraka's Va last season on a girls declaration episode and this one killed it. Last I felt so much passion was in Jin Woo Solo leveling ep 4 fight scene.
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@@MatthewUchiha-hg2fl it's crazy cuz in manga everyone found it boring lol
Gonna be honest, i was bored 😅
@@Louie23LA yall need help
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I relate to toga sm I feel all her rage how annoying it is to hear the same thing over when that’s JUST HER- 😔🥺💔 that ending “I was told NOT to smile-“ her softest voice broke me that’s so sad- 😭 being brought into therapy to “fix” a child but was gone abt the wrong way😞
Yeah man I shuld be allowed to murder people because its just me. Wtf is wrong with this fandom.
Bro this fandom is fxcked... how can you relate to a psycho serial killer??
Am I the only one who cant seem to empathize with toga? Like she needs to be locked up for life, I feel like the show is trying too hard to make us understand why she is the way she is but I cant see her as the victim. She seems like a narcissist who blames everyone else except herself.
it's simple, you just lack reading comprehension, Toga wasn’t taught to use her Quirk in a healthy way, only to re-press it, clearly her behavior and blood-lust is quirk related, which made her feelings explode. If she had been taught other ways to express her love she wouldn’t have been a villain. The parents and society in general made her that way. your child is vulnerable and openly admitting to you she doesn't understand why people behave the way they do and why she's behaving the way she does and your first thought is thinking you birthed a demon? Instead of helping her early they just told her to hide it and " be normal " till the dam broke during highschool.
I can empathize with her, shes done horrible things and its just tragic that she was born the way she was, we can all easily criticize her but i dont think it was her fault to be born with a quirk that literally makes her want to drink other people's blood, she should have been institutionalized as soon as her parents saw her eating birds among her other dangerous tendencies, but everyone in her life, including quirk society failed her and now you have a radicalized indivual who joined a terrorist group because she felt there wasnt any other place for her to go to
With all of the league your supposed to feel horid for them as its like they were set up to fail from the start. But your also supposed to separate that and acknowledge the crimes they have done. Toga was set up to fail, first her quirk makes her want and almost needs to drink blood. This isnt her fault she was just born like that, it prob would have gotten better if her parents y'know actually parented her and got her actual help instead of shunning her to the point she became a ticking time bomb. Once the bomb set off there was no going back and now we have a teen who got a taste of freedom finally and wants to keep it. Shes not a good person but its understandable how she became this way.
@@kvukvukvuperfect explanation
Let put it in analogy, imagine toga is LGBTQ+ person and the society try so hard to make her be "normal" to be accepted in society. Her parents said that she isn't normal and should behave like what "normal" people do. She just end up bottle up her feeling and it just explode, that why she make bad desicion. It like saying to a child that you aren't belong in this world. You don't need to excuse her action of killing people and all, you just need to understand how she end up like that.
Im sorry but this episode trash not another talk no jutsu saving someone or changing someone in the middle of war 🤦🏻♂️ We need more JJK vibes!!!! 😂
@@JoeFasho209Reacts ik bro what im saying mha is so lame
Average meatheads^
Even tho I completely disagree with you, I think this episode was very beautiful and sad and make me cry, I do agree with you in the sense of it's a war and this attack actually accomplished nothing. Not a single hero was killed or civilian. If they were, they got killed off screen which honestly is super lame when that shit happens in anything
@@sterben_alone3083 and you are allowed to disagree 👍🏼 and i agree that it was beautiful, we seen toga get sort of closer she needed cause everyone treated her like a monster when she was young instead of trying to understand her.. and yea death off screen always a bad idea
@@アキコ2003 you literally have a comment on this channel on a jjk episode of you simping for nanami 🤦🏻♂️ whatever you going through i hope you defeat it
This episode was boring it was fodder/jobber of MHA ,they wasted orecious time of real fights tjata ctually matter ,instead we got these goofy talk about boy/girl romance froppy mumble jumbo no sence
2/10 ragebait try to be more unique next time
Get lost troll😂
sober up bro
This was an ass episode my hero has got to be the most boring anime in the new gen 😂
Stfu. It was PEAK.
Being a rage-baiting troll isn’t for you, this attempt was so lame and obvious lol
@@MarkHappy98 mha academia is so lame and predictable like what is this gay ass episode lmao I’m not even trolling lmao episode was ass
@@MarkHappy98fr like it’s so embarrassing for these kind of ppl
@@princeizuku how so im just stating a fact mha is overrated and trash lol