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So India have practically been unbeatable at home in more than a decade now. Is there a side that can actually defeat this colossus of a team? Time to do a bit of time travelling.
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Since 1988 India has lost 3 series..... that's a series loss every 12 years. Incredible what the team has achieved
Just my opinion: I feel most older teams, especially pre-80s, would struggle to win a series against the modern teams. It's not about the skillset, it's about the newer playbooks, player conditioning and the evolution of the game itself.
Also, the fitness of modern players is on a completely different level. To clarify, I am not referring to speed, power or strength. It's the difference in endurance, flexibility, dexterity, etc. While some earlier generations have even played 6-day tests, they didn't have such hectic calendars. Now, players compete in a grueling schedule of diverse cricketing formats that demand a complete lifestyle change and adjustment to the modern world.
I agree 100%
When we talk about his hypothetical situations, we assume that these players would inherit the fitness and physicality of the modern players as well. We basically are comparing their peak performance level.
In India if Ashwin gets to bowl 15 overs at you, he will get you out even if you are Sir Don Bradman.
Yessss.
Only on doctored dustbowls, doesn't even have a single five for outside Asia and WI.
@@mcmjoe well yes but actually no
Ashwin cn take a million wickets but he will remain an average bowler including lyon
@@dogaredeemer2711 that seems like a hate comment.
16:41 Right at the moment if Pakistan play India, they would lose 6-0 in 5 match series 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Stop this obsession to Pakistan mate
@@lakshyajeetsinghpanda3974 omg let me use the word mate and act a white australian so that peopele take me seriously....stfu dude......its a rivalry....u see english and australian folks talk abt each other just as much when it comes to cricket
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We are currently a world beater and you're worried about Pakistan?? It's like being superman and beefing with green lantern. FFS stop mentioning them.
Big credit goes to kohli
From 2014 till 2021 kohli only lost 2 test matches at home which is insane
He is in the list at no 4 of all time run scorers in test as a captain
Ofc ashwin Jadeja rahane pujara and rohit did had their contributions
But kohli was a fabulous test captain
He is one of the reasons for the home dominance india has had over for years and now rohit's carrying the same
Also umesh yadav is someone who has contributed a lot in winning home tests as a pacer its never easy to take wickets in india but he did his part
yes but ind since 1988 to 2024 lost only 3 series
out of which 1 vs SA WAS APPARENTLY SUS UNDER AZHAR.
@@kkr434 yeah that's true
Did I see Rohit contributing in tests under Virat right after Pujara ? That’s the PR effect.
No hate to Rohit though.
@@tanojakula7086 LOOK ROHIT CONTRIBUTION CAME WHEN HE OPENED AT TOP LIKE SEHWAG.
IT WAS NOT HIS FAULT THAT TEAM MANAGEMENT WAS BUST POLITICKING?
@@Akirasenjuuu but in 2020s his Test Batting average in India (as well as elsewhere) is merely 32. If this continues. His average will drop below 45. All his Greatness as a test player is in serious threat at the moment.
It's the batting that'll win you series here in India. 2004 had prime Martyn and Gilly 2012 had cook and Pietersen 😊
Pitches were a lot batter friendly back then. Even our own batters don't get the numbers they used to.
Well we didn't have ash and jadeja thn ... Nor did we have these pitch
Cook's defence was most impressive in that series
If Australia get that types of pitches that England got in 2024 I can bet you australia can win series here easily
But india fear them to give that they are give fuckinnng rank Turners
@@futuregamer6987 Did you watch the england series at all???No rank turner in the whole series except a single match where ball started spinning from day 2 otherwise all the pitches were batting and fast bowling friendly which started spinning on 3rd 4th day which quite frankly is expected in India and even then their prime bazball got defeated by our jaisball.
U know this indian team is legendary when such hypothetical scenarios are being discussed
Exactly 😂🔥.
2004 Australia Tour of India, Aus won because of the following:
1. Sachin Tendulkar didn't play the first 2 tests and came back into the 3rd post a long break from his infamous Tennis Elbow injury(Yeah, Ricky Ponting didn't play too, but I would rate Sachin's impact in India much much higher than that of Ponting's).
2. 2nd Test Match at Chennai 5th day got washed out. India would have most certainly chased it down(200 odd on the last day).
3. Terrible umpiring which went against India. First over of the tour, Justin Langer was not given LBW. It was plumb out. Many such instances.
4. Parthiv Patel's terrible wicket keeping skills. He dropped way too many catches which even pissed off Rahul Dravid in the slips.
5. Ganguly and Harbhajan choosing not to play the 3rd test at Nagpur since the wicket had a green top 🙄
Australia were undoubtedly brilliant, but the above points went terribly against India.
Plus ind was stolen a victory in 2004 n 2008 in australia or else that same Indian team had won in Australia long time back
BCCI Politics lost us the series...imagine preparing a green top for a visiting Australian team...was done to oust Ganguly from captaincy
The 90s Australian team was different; even if they played now, you'd only think about a draw. Winning would be impossible
Martyn and Gilchrist batted out of their skins
Wow I didn’t know ganguly and harbhajan refused to play cos it was a green top. That is a disgrace. Not what you wanna hear about your childhood hero’s 😅
Even if Kohli Rohit starts to play against Indian side with World Xi they won't beat this side.
Cause they have to face 2 giants who can bat decent against spin and among top 5 SR and Avg for spinners.
Ind have lost 3 tests just Three tests when jadeja and Aswin played together in India. To beat ind in india in test series you have to win 2 to 3 matches within a God damn series, that's their entire career number in India.
Good luck beating 2 proper spin all rounders on spin friendly wickets👍
Now add greatest teast bowler in last 100yrs in Jasprit Bumrah and even Kohli and Rohit would struggle against this line up.
Haven’t watched the video yet, but here is what makes India unbeatable at home.
Their top 2 bowlers in these conditions are not only absolutely the 2 best in the world for these conditions, they are also world class batters in these conditions.
I don’t think the game has ever seen this before Ashwin-Jadeja (McGrath-Warne, Marshall-Holding weren’t exactly good batters). Quite probably will never see it again too.
bapu will fill jadeja's shoe.difficulty is finding ashwin's replacement
What an analysis and historical perspective in depth insight. Wow. Thank you Jarrod.
In my opinion spinners can get the job done in India, as the current lot of Indian batsmen are no experts in facing spin. But the issue is that SENA countries don't have any experienced spinners. A XI with 2 such spinners can trouble India big time, that's what Swann & Panesar did in 2012
Well, in 2012 India were at one of their weakest points, they were starting to undergo transition and the veterans were past their prime. Even with those issues, England had a hard time winning it.
not enough. You need batting that doesn't collapse. There is no batting line up that can guarantee not collapsing against this Indian bowling line up once in 6 innings.
Sri lanka still haven't won a test series in India which is pretty surprising considering the team they had in the past.
They haven’t won a test in India let alone a series 😂
They don't even win a test match in India they winning series is long distance thing 🤗
And they had Muralitharan
They haven't won a test!!
They have the highest score by any team in India.
I like how one of the points is “few left handers” 😂😂
It’s unfortunate that in India, where the cricket team is currently so Invincible and the sport enjoys immense popularity, only a few people truly understand the game. While I have around 60-70 friends and known ones who watch cricket, only about 2 of them have a deep understanding of how the game is played. Most watch cricket simply because it’s popular, with many only tuning in for T20 matches due to its fast pace. There are only few people in our country who understands how cricket is being played rest of them are just fighting about how their favourite player is the best player of all time.
That's happen all around the world.
@@ravinakuwar1407 can't tell about any other country buddy...i can tell about my country
😂😂Good Joke Make Your Team at Sapna 11
If I just do a simple math at your example, 2 out of 60 friends having deep knowledge then that’s 3.33% of the sample population and if you extrapolate that to the entire population of India or even 50% that would give you 2.33 crore people with deep cricketing knowledge. That’s a lot of people for cricket as a sport anyways, some countries don’t even have a population of that size. If you want that population to be 20% then that would be such a waste of resources on just one sport.
Bud sports is a form of entertainment. It makes sense. That's the case literally everywhere. In fact Indians still care and understand more about cricket than any other nation on earth. Of course there will be more normies considering how popular the sport is.
In 2012 India lost mostly because of an ageing team. The team was in transition with Tendulkar, Gambhir, Sehwag, Yuvraj etc all past their prime and new talent like Virat and Pujara didn't have experience. Combined with England's spin duo of Swann and Panesar cost India that series. One such time may come in next year when Virat, Rohit, Ashwin, Jadeja will be done and if some good side comes India may lose at home.
Yhh May be in transition time 😊
Man you guys have all excuses 😂
@@futuregamer6987 That's not an excuse bro a loss is a loss. It was just a analysis of loss. I say bring any test team to India at present and they will for certain lose the test series, no excuse.
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Giving an explanation for why a team lost is not an excuse.
No one wants to hear: "we were crap and the other team played better".
That's such basic af analysis that lacks any nuance.
The only team I can think that has a chance against this team is 2012 England with Cook, piterson, Swann and panesar.
The above statement is because of the following two conditions which any team needs to win a test series in India
1. You need good spinners
2. Importantly you need good players of spin bowling, I can't remember someone dominating Indian spinners in India like Kevin Petersen and they also had Alastair Cook.
And Alastair Cook is a rich man's Joe root.
I have been thinking about this for a while now that no team can beat India at home in tests at home and maybe even away. India is so balanced that they can recover themselves from the most difficult situations in test cricket as in tests you don't need to win just once, like in T20is or ODIs, you need to win session after session or win so dominately in one session that the game is over and you just can't do that to the indian team. The same begali team that was playing wow cricket against Pakistan beating them by nearly an innings, were completely helpless against India. I think Pakistan currently should be happy rather than disappointed that India dont play billatareals against them because this Indian team would humiliate them at home,away, or neutral venues. In conclusion, the Indian team currently is the best test team.
Since 2018 , India has played 22 test matches in Eng SA NZ including the 2 WTC finals & have lost 15 of them, won only 6.... LoL....
@@amitm2692 why you don't add australia? 😂 I know why 😂
It is a shame that WTC final is just 1 test match. This is unfair. WTC final should always be best of 3 test match. England is a rainy country. Imagine on the WTC final there is rain and couple of sessions being washed out. Also overcast conditions can favour the side bowling. India lost first WTC final to NZ because there was rain during that final and NZ bowlers used the best the precipitation because they were bowling then. Rain had played a highly significant role for India loss at the first WTC final. This is not a lame excuse. This is 100 percent truth and fact. But I totally agree the second WTC final between aussies and India, Australia outplayed India for sure. There is no rain this time for the whole 5 days. So it fair. I believe WTC final should always be best of 3 test match instead of just 1 test match deciding the fate of a team which for which it took 2 years to reach the WTC final. ICC should make WTC final as best of 3 test match.
Clue is in the name mate. It's a "Final". It's meant to be a one off game, not a series because that defeats the point. Guarantee you wouldn't be complaining if India hadn't lost the last two finals.
@@areebsiddiqui758 did you know about the CB series in aus-indi-sri which had 3 finals ???...
2ndly this is a test series final , best teams of 2 years gaining points from series wins gets to play the final.So the final should also be a series final..
Or else it's like participating in 400m race to qualify to finals and in the finals you have to play a 100m race....
2ndly WTC has to follow a better format than this current type...Top 3 qualification should be look after...
@@areebsiddiqui758 Man I have prepared a long passage justifying the reasons for why should best of 3 match for the WTC finals. I am sure you will change your view. But sadly that long passage i prepared for you got deleted somehow while i am typing the last sentence. I do not have patience and energy to type again that long passage which lost .
@@lj4daniel70 100 percent fact and truth. It is a shame and disgrace for ICC to just keep 1 test final for WTC and declare them as winner. Getting to the WTC final is a result of 2 years dedication and brutal hard work. It is unfair and Unequal for WTC to be just 1 match final. Totally unfair.
@@lj4daniel70 If you're trying to find the best team in every tournament then the world cup should also be a best of 5 or best of 3. The point of a final is that whoever plays better on the day wins.
For example, in the IPL the team that wins the league phase doesn't necessarily win the knockouts and the final. The WTC is interesting because it's a one off game and anything can happen. Unpredictability is always enjoyable in sport.
Best whiteboard cricketer statistician (a compliment).
Travis Head
Tom Latham (WK)
Kane Williamson
Joe Root
Daryl Mitchell
Ben Stokes
Keshav Maharaj
Nathan Lyon
Pat Cummins
Kagiso Rabada
Josh Hazlewood
Even if we combine players from the world, they may not be qble to defeat India
Remove stokes,rabada,mitchell,maharaj. They have terrible stats in india. Rather you should include khwaja,rachin,phillips and boult maybe
Remove stokes and rabada both are clueless in indian conditions expecially stokes who looks completely out of sorts against spin, pace Even on good batting pitches.
Including Ben stokes who is walking wicket in India. Put Blundell at 6 or in honesty better spin player Rizwaan as keeper at 6 and open with Khwaja also Southeee is far better test bowler in India than Rabada.
Keshav Maharaj is debatable I would add a SL/ Bangladesh spinner may be Prabath Jaysurya or Shakib who can bat a bit, may be get in Steve Smith over Mitchell.
Also Head in India for test doesn't give danger as opener like in shorter format plus never tested.
Travis Head/Dimuth Karunaratne
Usman Khwaja
Kane
Root
Smith
Rizwan (wk) plays spin better than lot of batters
Shakib/Rashid/ keshav Maharaj (bowlers who can bat)
Prabhath Jaysurya (current form)
Pat Cummins (can bat a bit plus Captain?)
Tim Southee (fantastic tailender who can hit sixes)/ Trent Boult (just for left arm option)
Starc has shit numbers, Shaheen doesn't tand a chance, Rabada also shit numbers.
Ben stokes useless in India specially against Ashwin and Bumrah
Blundell left hander Ashwin can eat, Hazelwood is good case but Southee can bat a bit.
Mehedi Hasan Miraj is someone to throw but lack of experience, Similarly Mushfakir Rahim makes case for WK but weak numbers against India. English batters can't play spin expect for Root, Rachin Ravindra hasn't played yet so not included, Devon Conway out of form, Babar Azam doesn't seem confident against this Indian Attack. SA batters too weak against spin.
So yeah pretty much this top 15.
@@swapnilthorat4648 how bout carey for keeper.nice player of spin he is
I don't world XI but your team will be lose 5-0
Jarrod you should discount 2000 SA win. It was the height of match fixing and India was terrible. 2012 was a team under transition and in Tendulkar, Harbhajan, Yuvraj, Gambhir, Sehwag there were lot of players past their prime. 2004/05- Nagpur pitch and bad form of Indian batters lost the games.
One could say that even SA match fixing was at an all time high at that time xD
No excuses for the 2012 loss though. That was a series that happened post the retirement of Dravid and Laxman. GG and Sehwag were not in their late 30s, only Sachin was.
@@prachotandevulapalli6670 maybe it was the battle of who fixed more. I saw those games, india was quite poor and there was a lot of stress on the batting. Never took it seriously afterwards
I'd love to have seen Ashwin & Jadeja vs Misbah & Youni in 2013-15.. Would have been one hell of a battle
Not sure about misbah but Younis Khan would have been handled ashwin and jadega well bcz he was a terrific player of spin bowling
Interesting. Wondering how an Indian team before 2010 would fare against the current Indian team?
Pre 2010 team win easily
Sehwag
Gambhir
Dravid
Sachin
Ganguly(C)
VVS
MS(Wk)
Harbhajan
Kumble
Ishant
Zaheer
Similarly great spin combo or even better
Better Batters for sure
Pace takes a hit only because of Bumrah
Sachin and Sehwag top order batters who can bowl are main advantage
The current Indian team is the best Indian team and will defeat past generations Indian team just because they have the best bowling line up India has ever produced. Even though pre 2010 has better batting, the bowling quality of Ashwin, Jadeja, Axar/Kuldeep, Bumrah and Shami will trump the opposition.
@@sarangp5896 Yeah Top order is way better and consistent than today but I respectfully disagree that spin combo then was better than present.I think they are on similar level and Lower middle order is way better in the present team. So, i don't think it will be an easy win for pre 2010 team and it will be a close fight(Taking assumption that pitch is not a complete rank turner because if it is then it is a easy win for pre 2010s team).
i have taken that particular assumption beacuse in recent times(for the last 2 series) Indian pitches are not that much of a rank turner.
U guys always forget that using feet is not a great option anymore as spinners are fastest in this era on average.@@sarangp5896
@sarangp5896 I get that these players are Indian greats & legends but the XI that you mentioned probably never even played together goes to show how inconsistent that team was. pre 2010 team had a top order collapse and fall to part timers problem, not to forget the inability to get the tail out as they had a poor fast bolwing lineup
2003 Aus tour bottled coz last batting pair got 250 partnership.
SL made 769/7 after being 350/5 at home.
That batting line up was way better than current but they never played together that much.
Fast spin the best left arm was Derek Underwood , he was amazing in english condition but not much in India then there is the right arm fast leg spinner B S Chandra , he was the best , the speed , the spin , the unplayable googly , he had all the batmen guessing .
Honestly, that England 1908 - 1914 team did play pretty well in India. But Kachra and India's legend all-rounder Bhuvan were just a bit too good for them
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Lol
Any older teams to beat modern indian team is uphill challenge which is nearly impossible, as cricket as evolved over past times, there are some great Spinners & seamers but how will they tackle pant scoping them over wicketkeeper, the riversweep, switch hits,
The most legit team has to be Aus 2004. They have all the ingredients to win against this prime Indian side.
In order to win in India, you need a batsman who frustrate bowlers by not giving wicket for longer spells and are great players of spin e.g. D Martin, Younis Khan, Cook, Khwaja.
You need individual match winners like Gillespie, McGrath, Warne. I still remember how Gillespie and McGrath troubled Dravid in that series and by which we couldn’t draw the matches.
Eng 2012 was a solid team but legendary Indian side was already old and jaded.
Also feel this Indian team can beat 1999 Pak team fairly easily in India.
The only team from the current generation who have a SLIGHT chance at beating India at home is Australia. they came close in 2017 and last year series was also quite fun. England on the other hand look down upon spin bowling, batting against spin and turning wickets as something inferior now more than ever. they shake off every series in India as 'hmph, turning wickets.". they are never repeating their performances from 2012 until India have monumental collapse in their resources, which looks very unlikely for another decade. South Africa kind of have the batters, but they simply don't have the bowling resources, same for NZ.
We won 2017 test series against Australia bcz of jadeja impactful contributions in the final test otherwise it would have been difficult to win that series.
Current SA test team are clueless against quality spin bowling their bowling is good enough to do well in India.
After lyon retirement i like to see how australia will play in India.
1999 Pakistan team is very interesting:
Anwar
Yousuf
Younis
Inzy
Ijaz
Latif
Afridi
Razzaq
Azhar
Saqlain
Wasim
Waqar
Shoaib
Bet this team would be formidable for the current lot.
Not sure how they could clinch the series but they would surely compete.
That team only drew the 1999 series. And Chennai test was very close. The issue in that Indian team was that it did not have enough pace battery. That base is also covered now. So the 90s Pak team would compete and lose with this Indian team - like a few teams had competed and lost. Granted the series won't be one sided.
@@srinir5227 If you include the Kolkata Asian test championship match, which was basically a continuation of the series, Pak won 2-1.
@@mrslask1 modern time is different for now
Jarrod, you missed on the SG ball factor as in India they use the red SG test balls that is quite different to the Duke and Kookaburra
Dude ran out of markers
South Africa's performances in India often go under the radar, but they've consistently challenged us. A series victory in 2000, a good fight in 2004, and brilliant displays in 2008 & 2010 showcase their resilience. Remember Amla's 2010 series, where he scored huge hundreds in each of his innings, including a remarkable double ton !! Also, there were notable centuries from Amla, ABD and McKenzie in 2008. Steyn was exceptional with the ball in both the 2008 and 2010 tours. They have an impressive track record on Indian soil.
Only one option, Pakistan of 1999, they had a decent batting line-up and a bowling unit which might be better than India's on their days.
They didn't play an one off test match, they drew the series 1-1 before the Kolkata test. This includes an incredible test match in Chennai and the memorable 10 fer for Kumble in Delhi
Jay shah will buy them.
If pak play now a 5 match test series...they will probably lose 6-nil....😅😅😅
I was thinking the same. Saqlain and Afridi would be devastating on Indian pitches. And Wasim/Shoaib can easily outdo Bumrah in pace and reverse swing. Add to that batters like Saeed Anwar, Inzi, Yousuf, Moin Khan, Ijaz Ahmed and young Younis Khan. 😮
@@arijitpramanik No matter what Pakistani team you bring from whichever era, their fielding would be appalling🤣 which in Today's fast paced cricket is essential...so unless Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib bowl fast, it has to be lbw or bowled only...their slip/outfield catching was, is and will always remain mediocre...a field where India beats them day in day out🤣
Denis Compton should do well in India, I think. He scored a 249 in the 4th innings of a Ranji Trophy final once, fact !
India beat england recently without any big plsyers coz pool of talent in raw ne after other in india
India winning at home easily because other countries don't have 2 high quality test spinners australia is the only team who challenged india in india because they have 3 quality test fast bowlers and nathen Lyon and playing ashwin and jadeja in india is very difficult for any batsman and india needs to find sshwin and jadejas replacements quickly if they want to maintain their home dominance in future
Axar and kuldeep 😜
Pak team of 1981 or 1999 Pak team both have realistic chances of winning a series in India.
Opinion: The reason behind sheer dominace is bumrah. If bumrah is not playing then it's possible for someone to win a couple of matches if not the series.
I think it is collective effort of shami,Bumrah,ishant and Umesh not only bumrah
Yeah that's true . But look at wt20 for example this man is having economy of about 5-6.
Against pak -rizwan+babar wicket at most imp time
Against sa -top 2 batters + last over against jansen
Taking wickets is good but there are bowlers who atleast give runs and give bad balls . This one just don't give loose balls so that pressure could be released.
I used to think that he isjust a yorker specialist , a one trick pony but the way he bowls outswinger from that awkward action is just amazing.
Bumrah in indian conditions???not sure bcz he started playing test cricket in Indian conditions from 2021 and we have lost few tests even with his presence
Bumrah is the best bowler currently without any doubt. No matter whatever is the conditions, just look at how Anderson was thrashed by jaiswal in the previous eng series.
I am not a fanboy but bumrah is currently far ahead of any other bowler. If he plays for 5 years more with his fitness, he will reach the level of wasim akram if not surpass it.
99's Pakistan Definitely Beats this Indian team. But only under a great coach. Let's say Imran Khan as the Coach! This would be the starting XI for the 1st test of a 5 Match Series, and the Overall Squad
1. Saeed Anwar
2. Shahid Afridi
3. Ijaz Ahmed
4. Inzamam-ul-Haq
5. Yousuf Youhana
6. Saleem Malik
7. Moin Khan
8. Wasim Akram (C)
9. Saqlain Mushtaq
10. Mushtaq Ahmed
11. Waqar Younis
12. Shoaib Akhtar
13. Abdul Razzaq
14. Azhar Mahmood
15. Mohammad Wasim
I think Pakistan '99 has the best chance against today's team. Pak '99 was one of the best all round Pak team. Pity it didn't stay that way for hakf a decade.
I think Sri Lanka is the team which gives very tough competition to India in India because of their spinners and batting
Srilanka yet to win a series against India in india, even their prime teams couldn't achieve that
They still couldn't win a series in India.
Even Rangana Herath said it was the one thing he regretted in his test career
Series????
Sri Lanka is yet to win a test MATCH in India???
Series is a far off discussion
Sri Lanka haven't even won a Test match in India.
They've not even come close to doing it despite having fantastic players through the 90s and into the 00s.
SL yet to win a test in India
Only team that can give a terrific competition to India at home is the Pakistan team of 1999 and even win it and the Indian pitches will be todays condition not 99 Indian pitches
This is just me, but I don't think you need to be at Ashiwn or Jadeja level to get Indian batters out of the current era. IMO, they really struggle against the spin, any good spinner of yester years would've done well against India of today.
Nobody can beat ?? Wait till wtc final held in india and it's india vs australia 😢🥲
I can see a team winning or drawing a two match series,but anything more than that looks implausible right now
6-0 in 5 test series 😂
Interesting one by Jarrod Kimber,fascinating in fact and a must watch for those oriented to measuring greatness over eras in a team sport,however thereotical.😊
No amount of permutations and combinations that I can think of can really even challenge india in india
Teams which win a test in india also happens bcos of individual brilliance in a one off manner… like olie pope etc.. so it takes a miracle to win a single test in india
Cool stats Jarrod
It would be interesting to see a matchup between current ind vs ind(2001) with all those batting stalwarts and spin bowling wizards like bhajji and kumble and a handy 3rd spin option in Sachin....🤔
If we are talking about their respective peaks Kohli is as good as anyone in India(Sachin included), Rohit averages literally 80+ in India which was second only to Bradman in terms of home average at his peak too. Jaiswal is anyday better than everyone apart from Sehwag too.
Pant is our best wk batter and equal to VVS easily. Jaddu and Ash are any day better than any other 7 or down batter in the past teams.
The only places where the previous batters win is Dravid is light years better than Gill right now.
Along with the fact that this bowling line up is miles ahead of previous gen. Bumrah+Ash+Jaddu+Shami+Siraj/Axar is anyday better than Kumble+Bhajji+Zaheer+(srinath or Irfan).
Bro pant can be the X factor where past team struggled to find a keeper batter but Ash and Jaddu won't be hard work for Sachin, Dravid and VVS.
Look at stats of Warne and Murali 2 undoubtedly greatest spinners of all time were just avrage routine bowlers for these stalwarts, Kohli and Rohit has higher prime but yeah Sachin and Dravid could play session by session and are brilliant spin batters specially off spin of Ashwin.
May be this 'Bumrah vs Dravid' and Sachin now that would have been competition to pay the money for. Also Kumble and Bhajji vs Kohli and company didn't underestimate those 2 giants.
It all comes down to current pacers vs Big 4 back then and what kind of day Pant has against either spinner he is sole difference between the 2 teams!
In all honesty Kohli is miles behind Sachin even he is far from Dravid in Test we shouldn't get started about Rohit in test cricket!
4000 days ...still counting 😅
You missed the West Indies team that had Clive Loyyd as captain … Larry Gomes and Lance Gibbs before he retired where Alvin Kalicharan could Tuen his arm and be quite deceptive …. Not to mention the destructive batting of Roy Fredricks .. Gordon Grednidge … kalicharan … Richards … Loyyd ..Daryck Murray … and the speed quartet …
Now that 2013 or 2014 England series in India will become a Case Study😊
How did England beat India in India in that series?
I still remember that day, we went to see the test match 2nd day in Mumbai Wankhede, where India were some around 240/6 after day 1 and they lost 4 wickets very quickly in 2nd day Morning.
Zaheer hit one or two sixes I guess.
Then afternoon and evening session was purely dominated by Cook and Peterson, they batted the whole day, I guess they lost only 2 wickets on that day and they both were unbeaten.
They won that match, they won the series later.
IND WERE IN TRANSITION.
ASH/HARBHAJAN WERE NOT GREAT IND HAD A WEAK TEST CAPTAIN AKA MSD.
REMEMBER MSD RECORD AT HOME WAS NOT GREAT TOO.
@@kkr434 India won 2 ICC test maces under MS Dhoni as captain. India also won test series in NZ and drew test series for the 1st time in SA. India had 70% win record at home under MSD.
2004 aus win had to do with poor umpiring where Michael Clarke had plenty of lives in Bangalore to hit a match winning century..
Also the rain in chennai on day 5 when india had to score 190 with all 10 wkts... It cud have levelled the series 2-2 ...
for me its Pakistan 1999 team, they can beat India in India.
If any indian captain loose test series in india the backlash,trolling he will get from indian fans 😂
Only if kl Rahul is the captain only then india lost test series at home he can do it whats other cant do that's call mediocreity
@@thecricketfanofficial8092oh do shut up
Pakistan don't play against India ❌❌❌
India don't play against Pakistan ✅✅✅
Pakistan is a joke lol whitewashed against Bangladesh at home.
Absolutely amazing video and it was very enlightening to learn about other great teams from the past. One aspect that doesn't get talked about often is the quality of fielding. These days, you rarely see the Indian team dropping simple catches, and more often than not, they take the half chances as well. That means they have to take just 20 wickets as opposed to 30-35 (including the dropped catches).
The level of analysis is amazing...not an opinion based discussion instead a fact based is awesome.
I think 2000-2008 Indian side might challenge this current Indian side.
You might be kidding thinking that their batting could survive jadeja, ashwin, bumrah, shami, kuldeep, siraj, axar. None of them were in their prime and would have easily dismissed that pre 2010s team. By 3rd and 4th innings , jadeja , ashwin and bumrah all averages less than 20, doesn't matter if it's sachin, dravid, or laxman, today's india bowlers would have eaten their soul in breakfast
Jarrod is all over the RUclips. I like it 🤣😀
I think England 2012 still has the best chance. Solid spin batters, fast spinners who could turn, batting depth, reverse swinging Anderson.
10:32 "Peak Gilchrist" barring that 122 in Wankhede, made 2 runs in rest of the 4 innings, including 2 ducks. Ashwin would eat him alive
Anil Kumble would be most successful fast spinner of all time
Gilchrist lead AUS beat India in 2004-05!! Final Frontier has been conquered.
I think the 1902 Australian team that won in England could get at least a mention. It had two excellent spinners Hugh Trumble and Monty Noble. Noble was also an allrounder along with Warwick Armstrong. Plus they had a fantastic batting lineup that featured Victor Trumper, Clem Hill, Joe Darling, Syd Gregory and Reggie Duff.
This is a criminally underrated channel! To me, Jarrod Kimber is the Neville Cardus of our times 😊
Flawed reasoning for a change from the great Jarrod. I firmly believe 2004 Australia can beat this team of ours most times. Our batting is very brittle
It ain't as brittle as you think. Having the likes of Axar, Ashwin and jadeja batting at 6,7,8 with a top order with do exceedingly well against spin in India. We do struggle in spin friendly conditions in srilanka and Bangladesh. But on our soil,our batters are still very very good. You can check that by seeing their averages in India.
Congrats on the 100k!! I totally missed that you passed it!
I think, SL team with Murali, Herath, Sangakara, Mahela, Dilshan, etc. should have been considered as 3rd, 4th or 5th team. The fact that Murali and Herath did not have a good record in India was because they were playing against one of the greatest batting line-up of all time against spin. The recent struggle (I don't think struggle would be the right word) of the Indian batters against quality spin bowling, might actually work in favour of Murali and Herath.
It's essentially Ashwin vs Best batters across time on Indian pitches
Tbh Pakistan of 1999 is probably the only one I'd legit fear rolling us even now, but if only they have another couple of cheat codes - bring Waqar from 1993-94 (by 1999 he was already past his prime) and be allowed to use bottle caps. The batting was stacked af, I'd especially like to mention Ijaz or Salim Malik - not incredible batters, but temperamentally super effective. And of course, Inzy.
Flat pitch and win toss
Ah... Time travelling Cricketers ...
The 1999 PAK team is more than a match for the current IND Team, genuine spinners in Saqlain, Mushtaq and Afridi, top class fast bowlers in Wasim, Waqar and Shoaib and very good batting in Anwar, Inzamam, Yousuf, Ijaz, Younis.
Perhaps you can do a vid which Ind team from a diff era could defeat the current team
You also forget that Indian batsmen of today themselves cannot play on rank turners like what the greats of Indian cricket (Sachin, Dravid, Laxman, Ganguly) used to. So rank turners are out now, pitches with good bounce and gentle spin is what India thrives on at home.
England of 2012 would be the toughest challenge for India.
This is some superb stuff Jarod, that's why I am ur fan ❤😊
SL have never won a test match in India😅
Usman khwaja
Tom latham (wk)
Root
Kane williamson
Rachinravindra
Head
Stokes
Pat cummins(c)
Starc
Matthenry
Lyon
Current gen Test team which can give some tough time .
Stokes??? he is probably one of the most clueless batsman ever to have played in india he struggles against spin, fast bowling even on good surfaces and we saw that in their recent tour to india where he averaged 19.
Jarrod, I admire your knowledge of cricket and this is a great analysis. Greetings from the US!!!
In today’s world …. You are making such a quality content….just amazing keep it up man… we’ll keep on supporting 🙏🏼🙏🏼
What if there was a 3 match test series of World XI vs India.
Very detailed analysis! I love it. Thanks for sharing.
Amazing video as always.
Jarrod with a dirty white board and a red marker is pure evil genius.
99 pak team would look good on paper but most likely self explode for some reason or other
Best analysis on Indian test Cricket team on Indian soil
Old Jarod we love that ❤
I think the Pak team of 1999 would have a decent chance. Current Indian batting is not as strong, they may find it really difficult to face Saqlain. That Pak bowling was tailor made for these conditions. If Inzi had a blockbuster series they would win.
Great analysis - Kimber a class act
16:41 funniest part of the video😂😂😂😂
I think the 83-84 team can still do it. I watched that series entirely and Holding and Marshal were a handful. That was there coming of age series. WI then went on to dominate Cricket. I do not see how the duo will be faced by the current batting lineup. Well for the WI they have to face a much much better Indian bowling attack. Better both in the spin and the pace department. It would be a contest and I think they would stand a chance to beat the modern day India team.
Now watch New Zealand steal their first series win in India next month.
Next joke plz
They lost to sri Lanka quite comprehensively
😂😂
The stat are amazing ❤ hopefully they win next test championship 🏆
NZ finally have a spin attack that is suited for Indian conditions. Santner is not quick through the air but he kinda knows how to bowl in India. Patel took a 10-fer and Phillips is quick through the air. Ravindra is their 4th spin option.
If (a very big if) someone like Williamson touches god and has an away series like Smith in Ashes 2019, NZ can give India a run for their money
I don’t see that happening, but it’s the closest that a team can potentially get to in the next couple of years before Ashwin or Rohit retire
Cherish this moment. It’s history in the making. And nothing is permenant..
On a totally irrelevant note, that whiteboard needs a deep clean!