Can Peace be Purchased?

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  • @robscallon
    @robscallon 7 лет назад +11

    This was fascinating

  • @BlueAloe47
    @BlueAloe47 7 лет назад +1

    Thank you so much for this thoughtful video. It really shows the true purpose of museums...it's not about preserving objects for preservation's sake, but about the *meaning* we give to those objects. Objects are a way to learn about the people who made and used them; it's a window into the past. (I went to graduate school for museum studies, and now work in museum education, and I always try to keep that in mind.)

  • @Stevonicus
    @Stevonicus 7 лет назад +18

    I like that Dr Nash is a somewhat atypical archaeologist. The popular image of an archaeologist is someone digging up a field looking for remains of ancient societies, but Dr Nash is dealing with these relatively modern items that still have major socio-political importance today. Archaeology doesn't end with the European Medieval period.

  • @tiny_M
    @tiny_M 7 лет назад +59

    This is a really interesting video. I love that you guys on the Brain Scoop are covering this! I also find it interesting that you talk about Native Americans and museums. The natural history museum in my town has an apology for something they did- I'm fuzzy on the details, but they used to have Native Americans in their gallery of dioramas (I don't know when they were made, the museums pretty old though) of Life Through The Ages or some such, which caused a lot of kids to think Native Americans were extinct! Now they have a little plaque with an apology in a corner of the hall, but I wonder- did the Field Museum ever have problems like that? What's the story?

    • @thebrainscoop
      @thebrainscoop  7 лет назад +23

      I don't know details of specific displays, but absolutely, our museum (and many others, thankfully) have changed and are continuously changing the ways we talk about and work with indigenous peoples, whether American Indian or otherwise.

    • @censusgary
      @censusgary 7 лет назад +18

      Two things that a lot of museums have done in recent years are to remove human remains from public displays and to stop displaying sacred or ritual objects in those cases where they are related to groups that still exist and consider the objects' display an act of disrespect. Also, when temporary or new exhibits are designed, it's common to let living members of the Native American groups depicted have their say.

    • @BlueAloe47
      @BlueAloe47 7 лет назад +10

      If you want to learn more about early representation of Native American s in museums, I recommend the book Give Me My Father's Body by Kenn Harper. It involves the American Museum of Natural History in the early 1900s, and although some details are depressing and disturbing, it's an important story.

  • @danip4211
    @danip4211 7 лет назад +7

    I LOVE IT WHEN EMILY GETS TO COLLABORATE WITH SUPER COOL MUSEUMS!
    (Seriously though, the evolution of the peace medals was incredibly interesting)

  • @DuluthTW
    @DuluthTW 7 лет назад +5

    I didn't know about these before today. Thanks for sharing!

  • @jayequinn590
    @jayequinn590 7 лет назад +4

    Great video as usual, Emily. It brought up a lot of interesting points. Also, sick bee collar chain.

  • @danielboone21
    @danielboone21 7 лет назад +1

    Oh. I love your channel . Thank you and your staff for such interesting and great work.

  • @AlleyBetwixt
    @AlleyBetwixt 7 лет назад

    The shell gorget is so rad. As an etcher/printmaker I was fascinated thinking about the artists and craftspeople who made them and their processes. Every crafted artifact has a story, but these 'medals' are bound up in such complex conflict. Super interesting. Thank you, BrainScoop!

  • @PinglanYo
    @PinglanYo 7 лет назад +1

    I personally enjoy the ones related to biology more, but it's interesting to see the channel expand to new subjects :)

  • @HannahHinze
    @HannahHinze 7 лет назад

    Why this channel doesn't have as many subscribers as Buzzfeed does, I'll never know. Great video!

  • @Justasweird
    @Justasweird 7 лет назад

    i love what this channel has become 11/10 great video

  • @mateohj6029
    @mateohj6029 7 лет назад +36

    I am a kid of México i am 11 years old i like your videos because i se thing that in the school i dont see and siens si mi favorit matirial

    • @mrsdsease
      @mrsdsease 5 лет назад +1

      Mr.Pardo he said that it is his favorite subject

  • @binky2819
    @binky2819 7 лет назад +19

    So at first we used these medals to establish peace and friendship between the natives, but later it devolved into something that meant "we are superior and we can do whatever we want to your land"?

    • @thebrainscoop
      @thebrainscoop  7 лет назад +20

      It really looks that way, doesn't it- even if the intention was more or less superficial with the imagery of 'Peace and Friendship,' the entire illusion of that notion disappeared as manifest destiny took hold. It's disturbing, to say the least.

    • @shaggy0917
      @shaggy0917 5 лет назад +2

      @@thebrainscoop Really interesting video, but after Lincoln's medal (with a Native in ceremonial headdress ploughing a farm inside a circle that seems to be pushing out the "warring savages") I had to stop. It made me feel sick that this narrative has been pushed by the powers that be for so long. It seems like the plan all along was to buy favour with empty words and shiny objects, yet all we hear is the bravery of the Explorers, venturing into untamed wilds, striking deals, and spreading culture and positivity.
      How can I learn about my family and their family when everything "out there" has been so whitewashed?

    • @anafindlay1696
      @anafindlay1696 5 лет назад

      @@shaggy0917
      Exactly my thoughts !!!

  • @madilove323
    @madilove323 7 лет назад +2

    Very interesting video!!!! I can always look for great content on the brain scoop! 💕😁

  • @gennahorvath1523
    @gennahorvath1523 7 лет назад +5

    "Never tickle a sleeping dragon." Nice one, brainscoop. Love the Harry Potter reference! ;)

  • @kyrae___
    @kyrae___ 7 лет назад +1

    Great video! And also really really love your shirt collar!

  • @censusgary
    @censusgary 7 лет назад +28

    George W. Bush was never really a rancher. He comes from a line of politicians and financiers who occasionally dabbled in oil. W has a cowboy hat and a pair of boots, but he's what Texans call "all hat and no cattle"-- or, in my parents' generation, a "drugstore cowboy." The Bushes own a "ranch" near Crawford, Texas, bit it's more of a vacation villa than a working cattle farm.

  • @censusgary
    @censusgary 7 лет назад +10

    Lewis and Clark carried 89 peace medals? Why didn't they make it an even 90, or 100?

    • @michaelesposito2629
      @michaelesposito2629 5 лет назад

      Gary Cooper probably that was all that was made before the left.

  • @Hans-jc1ju
    @Hans-jc1ju 7 лет назад +3

    If you like this video, check out ‚Objectivity‘. They show off a lot of historical items and documents.

  • @ihartevil
    @ihartevil 7 лет назад +1

    so much for peace with the natives look at standing rock :(
    thx for this awesomely ha bisky vid i really loved learning about these coin pendant things

  • @alexella9689
    @alexella9689 7 лет назад +4

    Peace medals that didn't really mean peace but probably more likely meant "see, colonization is good for you too, don't give us trouble because we gave you a medal"

  • @darkendkefka
    @darkendkefka 7 лет назад +2

    I was like "that museum looks familiar". No wonder, it's our museum here in Denver

  • @ShubhamBhushanCC
    @ShubhamBhushanCC 7 лет назад +4

    Such unflinching confrontation of euro-American treachery is commendable. Also Abe Lincoln has no chill when it came to peace medals

  • @MeisterHaar
    @MeisterHaar 7 лет назад +9

    at about 4:45 the abraham lincoln peace medal to me it looks like the farmer is a native american wearing a headdress. does someone else see that the same way or is it a european-american farmer?

    • @thebrainscoop
      @thebrainscoop  7 лет назад +17

      Yeah, that's a great observation. Someone tweeted at me (@ehmee if you're into that) a photo from "Indian Peace Medals in American History," by Francis Paul Prucha (1971):
      "The President and the Secretary of the Interior had examined it and had only one suggestion to make about the design for the reverse. Willson had executed an elaborate design, with a round medallion in the center about three-fifths the size of the medal, showing a house and church with children at play in the background and an Indian plowing in the foreground. Between this medallion and the outer edge of the medal there appeared at the top an Indian in the act of scalping another Indian. At the bottom was the head of the Indian woman, a quiver of arrows, and a bow and peacepipe. The intention, clearly, was to depict the advantages of civilization over savagery. The design with its symbolism was approved, but objection was made to the figure of the Indian plowing. The President and the Secretary decided that the design would be more acceptable if the feathered headdress on the Indian could be removed, and they asked the artist to take it out if he could do so without injury to the die. No doubt it seemed incongruous to have the Indian, who had adopted the white man's ways of agriculture, appear in his warriors headdress. But once the design had been cut into the die, there was no way to remove the feathers..."

  • @jimday666
    @jimday666 7 лет назад

    Very beautiful presentation

  • @jgroenevelt424
    @jgroenevelt424 7 лет назад +5

    Were peace metals designed intentionally by the government to model the gorgets or were they just worn by various tribes in the same fashion as gorgets?

  • @candycoatedcactus
    @candycoatedcactus 7 лет назад +1

    I'll admit to clicking on this one because of the title >.< I've watched all the videos from the collection in Minnesota up through you heading to the jungle, and I need to catch up on the backlog I've created.
    Thank you so much for asking about what happens if someone comes to the museum to claim a piece! I had never considered that, and I'm so so glad to hear about the Field Museum's policies. It's good to know that they're willing to right previous wrongs if there is a case to be made.
    Keep it up, you fabulous person ^.^

  • @sonorasgirl
    @sonorasgirl 5 лет назад

    I’m glad this isn’t glorifying this practice...it’s pretty disturbing. I’m glad you guys are talking about it - we need to acknowledge the history of our country. I mean, pretty disturbing is an understatement. It’s horrifying.
    Aside, and not related, but I appreciate your style! Both clothing and manners. You’re always so respectful and warm to your guests, and ask excellent questions! It’s nice to see another lady as intrigued by science as I am 😊

  • @censusgary
    @censusgary 7 лет назад +12

    "Draco dormiens nunquam titillanous."

    • @gerritzimmermann3688
      @gerritzimmermann3688 7 лет назад +1

      Gary Cooper Google translate. Virgil and Cicero would instantly die seeing this ....

    • @shannonhayes2447
      @shannonhayes2447 7 лет назад

      Haha it's the Hogwarts motto!

    • @gerritzimmermann3688
      @gerritzimmermann3688 7 лет назад

      Shannon Hayes Really? I must admit that I never noticed it there, but then Rowling's pseudo-latin words probably had me in a continuous state of suspended disbelief ... But if you enter "never tickle a sleeping dragon" into Google translate it'll come up with this translation.
      I wonder what is cause and what is effect in this.
      It's quite some time since I has to write something coherent in latin, but this phrase mixes up a gerundium for an imperative.

  • @DracarmenWinterspring
    @DracarmenWinterspring 7 лет назад +2

    This channel and Extra Credits, two of my favorite channels, released videos related to peace a couple of hours apart. Coincidence, or is there some relevant event?

  • @yrcanlitprof1144
    @yrcanlitprof1144 7 лет назад +6

    I love the discussion of repatriation of museum objects. So important to recognize what we can do in the present to acknowledge and redress on-going colonialism. Great video.

  • @88vicky88
    @88vicky88 7 лет назад +5

    Raw lamb sounds like and amazing gift to me. But I'm argentinian, so...

  • @chaeburger
    @chaeburger 7 лет назад +3

    Finally some Native American archaeology! I'm did my undergrad in Southeastern arch and my graduate degree is focused on the curation crisis of archaeological collections (also I think that would make a pretty good video topic).

  • @24934637
    @24934637 5 лет назад

    "It's more than a hat!"........"It still has brains on it".

  • @ASilentS
    @ASilentS 7 лет назад +2

    "Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus"? Pffff.
    Challenge accepted Emily! Challenge accepted!

  • @craigmooring2091
    @craigmooring2091 7 лет назад +8

    More than a hat...because....it still has brains on it.

  • @neonswimmergirl
    @neonswimmergirl 7 лет назад +3

    That was fucking fascinating.

  • @alanhenderson5414
    @alanhenderson5414 7 лет назад +2

    I do have one complaint. There's never enough Brainscoop. It seems so long between episodes but its hard to argue with the quality so all is forgiven.

  • @JosephJamesScott
    @JosephJamesScott 7 лет назад +2

    8:23 That was a really really long way of saying "No"

  • @sporkbot
    @sporkbot 7 лет назад +28

    Peace sells, but who's buyin?

    • @censusgary
      @censusgary 7 лет назад

      Peace is a surprisingly tough sell. War has a lot more marketing pizzazz.

    • @Tinker_it
      @Tinker_it 7 лет назад +3

      What do you mean I aint kind... just not your kind

  • @Setheli216
    @Setheli216 7 лет назад

    I think loyalty can be purchased--at least hypothetically. Say a strong regional power gives gifts to not-as-powerful nearby kingdoms to "buy their loyalty", then a a strong invader comes against the power. The gifts would remind the kingdoms of the loyalty they pledged when they took them. Of course, either party could just ignore the pact & take the gifts anyway which makes it hard to trust people whose only tie to you is via gifts, but it technically can be done, IMO.

  • @dinkusoninkus
    @dinkusoninkus 7 лет назад +2

    Great video! Thank you for teaching me more about native relations

  • @DeliveryMcGee
    @DeliveryMcGee 7 лет назад

    Re: "What if they ask for it back?" Don't a lot of those cases get resolved in the museum transferring legal ownership to the rightful owners, who then loan it to the museum for display/conservation/secure storage? Or at least that's the best-case scenario.

  • @juliannahowell1935
    @juliannahowell1935 6 лет назад

    HEYYY DENVER THATS WHERE I LIVE!!!

  • @kenlee5509
    @kenlee5509 7 лет назад

    Is there an award? this episode deserves it.
    Top Shelf, Emily, Et Al.! 20/10!

  • @08TAMAT80
    @08TAMAT80 7 лет назад

    The guy surely had a blooper, but there are not two native americans on the first metal medal. The one on the right is a soldier in what seems a rinascimental ceremonial armor. It was a classical reference and probably they meant civilization against uncivilized natives.

  • @danielboone21
    @danielboone21 7 лет назад

    What video is it when you push the chair into the scene? It is very loud and funny

  • @MrEdend
    @MrEdend 7 лет назад +7

    You really need to be able to bring Native American speakers into these conversations. These are living communities that are still being targeted.

  • @FNHot
    @FNHot 7 лет назад +5

    Emily's outfit and style is on point. Looking good.

  • @JustOneAsbesto
    @JustOneAsbesto 7 лет назад

    I don't know why, but this Steve Nash guy looks like SUCH a Steve Nash.
    Also, why is Abe Lincoln wearing a toga?

  • @TreverSlyFox
    @TreverSlyFox 7 лет назад +13

    Emily, I love the dress, you're a class act with taste.

  • @azdgariarada
    @azdgariarada 7 лет назад

    Squinty John Adams and frowning Harrison made me laugh so much!

  • @candykanefpv
    @candykanefpv 5 лет назад

    9:15 ANY burial that's suitably old, is not treated with the same respect that other burials are... If you find a roman catholic guy in the middle of a bog in england, they'll put everything into the collection.

  • @freshboy3968
    @freshboy3968 2 года назад

    Now, this would be pretty adequate.

  • @Porelorexeus
    @Porelorexeus 7 лет назад

    The medal with lady liberty and a native chief shaking hands just doesn't have an insidious message.

  • @gautampassi3863
    @gautampassi3863 7 лет назад +2

    Since I'm really early… Hi :)

  • @geoluk603
    @geoluk603 7 лет назад

    Not on Amazon. Ebay had some offers but they looked shady.
    Final Answer: Maybe, but I wouldn't put my money on it

  • @Creuilcreuil
    @Creuilcreuil 7 лет назад +1

    8:24 real answer, NO

  • @titanicgirl774
    @titanicgirl774 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks for just letting him talk. :) nice a refreshing.

  • @papinkelman7695
    @papinkelman7695 7 лет назад +1

    Its not just a hat... because it still got brains on it.

  • @Cadwaladr
    @Cadwaladr 7 лет назад +2

    Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus.

  • @TourAbsurd
    @TourAbsurd 7 лет назад +1

    Good gravy. What a way to dance around genocide. "...it is a fundamental aspect of what human beings do." Genocide is NOT INEVITABLE. As Robert Sussman points out: "Cooperation isn't just a byproduct of competition, or something done only because both parties receive some benefit from the partnership," says Sussman, professor of physical anthropology in Arts & Sciences. "Rather, altruism and cooperation are inherent in primates, including humans." No, Europeans were appalling in their dealings with First Nations peoples. Reparations are long overdue.

    • @TourAbsurd
      @TourAbsurd 7 лет назад

      "...in our society we respect everybody's burials"? What a load of manure. The US government has been running roughshod - often literally - over Native burial sites for as long as there's been a US government. Here's a story that was just published 5 days ago:
      www.mintpressnews.com/feds-defend-bulldozing-native-american-burial-grounds-for-highway-expansion/233665/

  • @samfell7402
    @samfell7402 7 лет назад +1

    That was awesome, but can I see some brain scooping again?

  • @kungfukay7281
    @kungfukay7281 7 лет назад

    Dr. Steve Nash sounds like Ron Swanson.

  • @Dwatthaell
    @Dwatthaell 7 лет назад

    Love that you worked in the Hogwarts motto! lol

  • @Alanzice
    @Alanzice 7 лет назад

    In the end, is more than a hat.

  • @billporter3495
    @billporter3495 7 лет назад +3

    Emily, you are a treasure.

  • @-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-
    @-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- 7 лет назад

    Hello.

  • @borg286
    @borg286 7 лет назад +4

    Your dress looks amazing. I love that you show that a girl can dress well and not be afraid to get their hands dirty.

  • @greenkid336600
    @greenkid336600 7 лет назад

    Honor G = Grinnell! Grinnellians FTW :)

  • @Nitaka12
    @Nitaka12 7 лет назад

    So, Peace Medals were the beginning of the end for the Native Americans.

  • @1sai163
    @1sai163 6 лет назад

    They totally are a symbol of Native repression. Yes it represents colonial control but that doesn't mean there were no specific motivations for making and giving these artifacts. I think you can accept this and still try and indigenize and repatriate museums by increasing practices like that you had mentioned.

  • @89nekkoinu
    @89nekkoinu 7 лет назад

    i cant understand how native american can build society without learn writing. there must be a written contract between european american and native american, right?

    • @slugfly
      @slugfly 7 лет назад

      Eko That's part of how they got screwed so bad. They signed exploitative contracts they didn't understand.

    • @lukeloegering1029
      @lukeloegering1029 7 лет назад +1

      Like all societies that eventually developed or adopted a writing system, Native peoples had oral traditions to build their society. There were written contracts between Europeans and Natives but like Slugfly points out, without a formal education in English, many Natives struggled to understand what they were agreeing to. Not that it mattered because the US government broke most of the treaties they had signed with tribes. Also, as a side note, the first early writing systems developed in Mesoamerica, Mesopotamia, and China so if we extend the definition of "Native American" to Mesoamerica, Natives did have a writing system just not in the area that would become the US.

  • @felipevitorino7745
    @felipevitorino7745 7 лет назад +5

    This is like objectivity in steroids

  • @candykanefpv
    @candykanefpv 5 лет назад

    He vaguely sounds like nick offerman.

  • @ianschank
    @ianschank 7 лет назад +4

    Way to sneak the hogwarts school moto in there

  • @bg6b7bft
    @bg6b7bft 7 лет назад

    No, but it can be leased.

  • @kevinchristensen9744
    @kevinchristensen9744 7 лет назад

    Peace sells.
    By megadeth

  • @aritrahan5039
    @aritrahan5039 7 лет назад +3

    First...?

  • @silverkitsune
    @silverkitsune 7 лет назад +1

    hi emily. this shows pretty cool. i like snails. bye

  • @MaraK_dialmformara
    @MaraK_dialmformara 7 лет назад

    Wow. Everyone should know about these.
    Also, how the heck did I recognize Martin Van Buren? Was he the only balding pre-Civil-War President?

  • @despaahana
    @despaahana 7 лет назад +1

    I'll take some lamb! Yum!

  • @mateohj6029
    @mateohj6029 7 лет назад

    Like 33 and i am the 214 visit

  • @TheAmazingCarl
    @TheAmazingCarl 7 лет назад

    If there is a world leader out there who wants to send me 300 pounds of lamb email me for my shipping address.

  • @michaelskinner3738
    @michaelskinner3738 5 лет назад

    Just come...I don't know what you are driving...

  • @michaelesposito2629
    @michaelesposito2629 5 лет назад

    I would love 300lbs of meat.

  • @iberian1580
    @iberian1580 7 лет назад

    Change that fucking music.

  • @morganm.6846
    @morganm.6846 4 года назад

    Jefferson is the worst

  • @emilyknight5179
    @emilyknight5179 7 лет назад +3

    LMAO just because you're not smart enough to understand "purchase" doesn't mean it's clickbait

  • @janeDoe-ru2xy
    @janeDoe-ru2xy 7 лет назад +1

    No it can't be bought.

  • @morkmon
    @morkmon 7 лет назад +1

    1 brainscoop = 1 like

  • @JackOfAllTrades0404
    @JackOfAllTrades0404 7 лет назад

    When the Europeans settled the americas, the native Americans had yet to invent the wheel. Also, clickbait

  • @Borjigin.
    @Borjigin. 7 лет назад +74

    Not happy with the clickbaity title. Neat video, though.

    • @thebrainscoop
      @thebrainscoop  7 лет назад +69

      Really? I think it's a fair question. From the perspective of the American government, they seemed to think that good relations and peaceful treaties could be purchased with an agreement and medals. I'm curious to know what others think about these type of exchanges.

    • @gautampassi3863
      @gautampassi3863 7 лет назад +18

      Borjigin - To be honest I don't think that's exactly clickbait. The video represents the use of so called prestige items to purchase/buy peace, hence representing the title. Plus I don't think Emily will ever use Clickbait on a Brainscoop video.

    • @Borjigin.
      @Borjigin. 7 лет назад +7

      Certainly, but with no context, the combination of this title and this thumbnail say absolutely nothing about what the video contains to the vast majority of people who don't see a big coin and automatically recognize it as a Peace Medal. The fact that this definitely isn't the kind of thing we expect from your channel leads people - led me, at least - to click on the video to figure out what was going on, rather than clicking on it because I was interested to know more about a clearly descriptive title.
      It's clear by your response that this wasn't intentional, I thought it'd be helpful to explain the logic, to hopefully find a more museum-like descriptive title. This was definitely an interesting video, and it leads me to wonder whether more political history videos will appear in the future.
      Cheers :)

    • @ASilentS
      @ASilentS 7 лет назад +14

      Based on the title and thumbnail, I immediately knew what the video would be about. The polar opposite of clickbaity.

    • @Borjigin.
      @Borjigin. 7 лет назад +2

      SilentS, you're clearly much more familiar with US History than I am. But considering this isn't a history channel, and that the audience is probably fairly international, I suspect that I'm more similar to the average viewer in this regard than you are.

  • @MrHarsh3600
    @MrHarsh3600 7 лет назад +12

    Clickbait

    • @lovelyhera1314
      @lovelyhera1314 7 лет назад +20

      Again - it literally is about the US trying to purchase peace. how is it clickbait?

    • @emilyknight5179
      @emilyknight5179 7 лет назад

      How???

    • @CasMullac
      @CasMullac 7 лет назад +3

      It posed a question based on the content. Was peace really purchased? How was it purchased? What was the significance of that peace?
      They gave you relevant information to form your own opinion and hopefully built an interest to look into the subject in more detail.

    • @uzogsi
      @uzogsi 7 лет назад

      I'm European. This video inspired me to look into events and relationships between Native-Americans and the brand new USA, because I know only the basics.
      Donesn't change the fact that it has a clickbait-ey title.

  • @SirZeu
    @SirZeu 7 лет назад

    emili are you single?