SUBSCRIBE, LIKE & SHARE for a Fully Charged future! We took a fresh look at the refreshed Jaguar I-PACE and remembered exactly how good it is. If you absolutely must drive a premium SUV, then we'd recommend giving this the once over. And while you're here, we headed to the first site of the Ecotricity x GRIDSERVE collaboration that is set to - at long last - make motorway EV driving as simple as it always should've been. Make sure you are subscribed then enter 'The Great EV Giveaway' for your chance to win an EV for a year and lots of other fantastic prizes fullycharged.show/EV-Giveaway/ Fully Charged is 100% independent thanks to RUclips Memberships and Patreons. Without you this channel wouldn’t be possible! If you’d like to help support the Fully Charged channel and its mission: Become a Patreon: www.patreon.com/FullyChargedShow Become a RUclips member: use JOIN button above Subscribe to Fully Charged & the Fully Charged PLUS channels Buy the Fully Charged Guide to Electric Vehicles & Clean Energy : buff.ly/2GybGt0 Browse the Fully Charged store: shop.fullycharged.show/ Visit our LIVE exhibitions in the UK, USA & Europe: FullyCharged.Show/events Subscribe for episode alerts and the Fully Charged newsletter: fullycharged.show/zap-sign-up/ Visit: FullyCharged.Show Find us on Twitter: twitter.com/fullychargedshw Follow us on Instagram: instagram.com/fullychargedshow Timestamps: 0:00 Refreshed I-PACE 1:56 EV Giveaway 2:36 I-Pace history 3:56 Brilliantly built 4:11 Batteries & range 4:33 Price 5:08 Super sales 6:08 SUV rant 7:02 Chargers of dreams 8:49 Charging choices 9:49 Inside tech 10:51 Physical knobs 11:48 Nice view! 12:17 Camera cleaning 12:55 Entertainment systems 14:11 High quality 15:00 Awesome mirrors 15:53 Off we go 16:45 Subscribe, support, join
Is the car more efficient vs the first version of the car or due to the better-charging infrastructure and software have this somewhat mitigated the problem?
With respect, to claim that Hybrid sales "collapsed" in 2020 is the biggest load of bullsh*t I've heard in a while! If Toyota Hybrid sales had been an individual brand, then they would have been the 4th largest car maker in the USA in 2020! Hybrid sales in Europe were up 13% in the first 3 months of this year and accounted for 67% of all Toyota Europe sales. If that's a collapsed market, I'd hate to think of how many they will sell when it rebuilds!!
Looks like the infotainment is still incredibly slow, for 70k it should be a lot smoother than that. They'd be better off just bolting a iPad in there.
@Robert FWIW, most luxury brands that are still developing their own infotainment are sub par. Eventually they all will eventually outsource the software development and hardware requirements. Mostly to Apple or Google... Have fun bolting on your overpriced iPad, in the meantime....
Round of applause to Jaguar for integrating the screen neatly into the dashboard. Screens that stick out on a bracket just look bloomin' awful. I'm looking at you, Tesla, for an extreme example.
Something had to change, Ecotricity had become an embarassing joke, yes they started it all off, but failed to keep the momentum and became very unreliable. I hope the venture with Grid serve will fill the vital gap of reliable charging on the motorway network.
@@johndoyle4723 from what I have read and seen, ecotricity catered originally for those cars that were equipped with the “chademo” connectors and were very reliable. Since the introduction of type 2 and CCS they have proved to be very unreliable often not working at all This partnership with Gridserve will not only bring their chargers up to spec but will increase their reliability no end, all power to them (pun intended) contactless payment is also the way that ALL chargers should operate.
@@Sofala Gridserve has announced that it will be replacing existing EH chargers with 2 pumps in current locations, and additionally , multiple pumps (6-12) in locations where this is possible, and remote from the initial installation. Next one's in are Exeter for the larger installation.
It’s a country with lots of money. If you check the numbers, the poorer the country , the smaller is that percentage. Some people will have to wait for second hand EVs to have their first one, but unlike the petrol cars, people will be afraid of the condition of the batteries. To be honest, I have higher priorities than buying new cars so, either I change to EV through a company car , or I will be keeping my dirty diesel car for around 10 more years until I know how the second hand market is really going in terms of reliability and battery conditions. Edit: just to be clear - IF I had the money i would already have one EV at my door.
@@joaoreis1079 There is certainly a correlation between GDP per capita and EV uptake but the more important thing is incentive and true advertising. Which is one of the main reason the EV up take in New Zealand is much faster than that of Australia.
In Norway simillar petrol or diesel cars are so highly taxed that electric one is cheaper. Also Norway has clean electricity ... But now they have a problem with crashed electric cars -- the cost is so high they don't repair -- just trash it on the junkyard..... also utlisation of such cars will be very expensive ....
@@joaoreis1079 well said. I own a petrol car that is 16 years old. It’s a Toyota and is extremely reliable and works just fine. I personally feel that keeping an older car going is much more environmentally friendly and cost effective than buying a new one. Plus like you said it will be many years before I can even think of affording an electric car. If I had the choice and money was no object. I might go for one, but probably would get a hybrid. Electric cars simply isn’t an option for most of the UK right now and won’t be for many years to come even with the government grants, which only apply to new cars!
@@MrRiddle0 what do you mean incentive and true advertising? Australia will be one of the last countries to go really go for EV the harsh landscape and sheer size of the country will make it massively difficult. So comparing New Zealand and Australia just isn’t fair.
I suggest that one overlooked point is that the 'ethos' of Ecotricity and Gridserve are in unity. Both promote EVs for ethical reasons rather than being dragged along reluctantly by outside pressures.
I own a 2019 I Pace HSE . Absolutely love it ! Great performance....beautiful styling....excellent handling. I always look forward to driving my I Pace. Great review !
The law was changed in 2019 requiring all new chargers to offer card payment. Getting the Car to transmit the customer ID/payment as standard should be the next legal standard.
Australia has not used MPG for 50 years. It has been exclusively L/100km for most of that time. Energy/fuel per 100km is definitely the way to go since MPG can be quite non-intuitive. There is an excellent Engineering Explained video on it.
@@adsheff If you drive 8km the fuel efficiency is weird hugely variable based on traffic. The MPG metric seems nonsense to me, but I fully understand it's just how someone is used to something. Also check engineering explained, I think it highlights how fuel/100km makes sense. Also knowing fuel per 100km, I can instantly estimate fuel usage for 1/10/25/50/200/300/500kilometer trips. If I know my car does 17.2kilometers per litter, the divisions are more complex 300/17.2 or 50/17.2 seems harder to calculate then 3*5.8 or 5.8/2 (17.2l/km is 5.8l per 100km)
@@adsheff You have just said that it is better to know fuel per km which is what L/100km gives you (divide by 100 to get fuel per 1km and then multiply by 8). e.g. a car does 6L/100km. Therefore for 8km we calculate 8x6/100 = 0.48L. "If you drive 8km to work, you just multiply by 8 to get the fuel used." Incorrect - if your car has a km/L figure you would need to divide 8 by that figure so in the previous example the same car would do 16.6km/L. To work out how many litres you used: 8/16.66 = 0.48L I know which math I can do more easily in my head.😁
@@adsheff it is easily dividable to any length you want and same goes for litre and guess what... money. You can do the math on the fly in your head while yelling at your kids to stop fighting. And you can scale it up or down easily too. I understand you are used to count distances in body parts, barleycorns and furrows so I am not here to convince you to switch.
The calculations are quite simple, so cars should just have the option to set the figures you want. How many kWh does it take to go 1 km/mi, should be the standard, because it's really simple.
SUVs aren’t a problem, but an opportunity. For myself, I could care less about luxury or features but care quite a lot about utility, repairability, and capability. Many EVs seem so focused on silly tech (touchscreens, power seats and doors, fancy lighting) but miss what’s important: ground clearance, ruggedness, simplicity, and 4WD.
If you want simplicity you dont want 4wd. Also most people dont go offroad. SUVs are just moronic status symbols. For real offroad use you buy an old Defender or land cruiser.
@@boltar2003 yep, currently have 2 LandCruisers. 4WD is required for me to get to my home. looking forward to someday charging an EV that can access my homestead using solar rather than keep burning diesel. thx for your input, tho 🤣
@@grantandre79 more EVS are 4WD than combustion because you just add another small engine, that engine can be more efficient at a different speed to the other one, as well providing more and safer regen, with better handling and less stress on drive components. The main issue with SUVs is their frontal area and resulting poor efficiency, and general sheer size.
The production in this video is amazing, i own both a jaguar i pace and soon to come a Porsche Taycan turbo S, can’t be happier with the electric change.
I am somewhat a bit sorry for the iPace but that charging location ... blew my mind! Two simple things (price written on charger, pay with bankcard), that will make travelling so much easier. We've been waiting for that for the past 4 years since our first Zoe! Thanks Robert and Fully Charged Team! You are an important part of that evolution!
Yeah, the Fully Charged branding department needs a damn good slapping. First it ditched the PROPER intro sequence (yes, we haven't forgiven you or forgotten about that), and now it's failing to capitalise on a wonderful bit of friendly Channel identity shenanigans. Signing off with "If you have been... Thank you for watching," is very good, but the Channel needs that cuddly intro. It doesn't need copyrighting, but using the "That's a... Those are... and THIS is Fully Charged" formula costs nothing and would give every video a nice little corporate hug to show that it was part of the FC family and still loved... Oh, wait; being loved and hugged would probably drive away too many precious Merkin Patreon supporters because love and hugs have just been banned for being fascistic war crimes and/or examples of insufficiently diverse physical assault in these uppity miserable socially-dystopian, gender-optional, shut up and stop looking at me and calling me a man or woman or human or whatever and DON'T TOUCH ME because I'm much more special and complicated than that' times... 🤪
Ha Ha... That's funny - because I had exactly the same thought...! I thought old Bobby seemed a little 'put off' during his intro - possibly with him having to park the car on a random grass verge...? No doubt, "normal service" will resume on the next one.
The camera washing jet has been on the Bolt EV from Chevrolet since it launched. Unfortunately it is connected to the rear window washer, so if I only want to clean the camera I can't. I kind of wish it was followed up with a little low pressure compressed air, a problem I have is sometimes a droplet of water will hang off the bottom of the fisheye lens element and just stay there, it's protected from the wind by the flat back of the car.
This new charging place is not only important for brits but also for those of us from continental Europe that still want to visit that lovely island. Being able to just pay with my credit card is just fantastic. And to the Jag, did it have that “transparent bonnet” feature like the Evoque? I think it is a very interesting feature, even in the cities.
Great video review. Pity about the negative comments of the Jaguar I-Pace from people who have never driven one let alone owned one. I have a 2020 ipace and it’s wonderful.
Love my 2018 First Edition HSE. Superb handling, I love the looks, the Power, the silendce and interior quality. Now my 3 year lease is coming up to to an end at the end of the year, and I really don’t know where to go from here. BEV For sure, but having been used to the iPace for 3 years, it’s going to be hard to beat 👍🏼🇳🇴⚡️
SO pleased to see the Ecotricity and Gridserve upgrades starting to roll out. As the driver of a Nissan Leaf with a realistic 75-80 mile range these motorway sites are vital for me when travelling longer distances. If they can roll out many more sites like the one featured then I’ll probably keep my existing car rather than upgrading to something with a longer range. Using the old network was really hit and miss, but these new ones look great! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@lfo414 1st: IT IS kWh ... kilowatt-hours !!! Or how many horse-power did you put into your fuel tank today?! If you want to talk about units, please use the correct ones! "Range per unit of energy" (eg. MPG, km/L, mil/kWh) is stupid and invented by marketing departments. This is a way to let minute differences in efficency have a stupid unit inflate exponentially, or the other way arround mask stupidly thirsty engines/motors with small changes in efficiency numbers. "Energy per unit of range" (e.g. Wh/km, kWh/100km, Wh/mil) is what ACTUALLY matters, just because you don't decide how far you drive based on the energy onboard the vehicle, but you want to know how much energy you have to put in to reach your destination. Example from the fossil world: A manufacturer busts their nuts of to reduce the consumption from 5 to 4,5 L/100km ... this difference looks minute and in real life it actually is. In the stupid MPG unit this equates to 56 vs 63 which actually fools many people to believe the latter one being a much more efficient vehicle, when in reality the variation in comsumption is bigger than the claimed improvement. Now we take that same negligable difference for a larger vehicle with a consumption of 10 versus 9,5L/100km. This equates to 28 vs 30 MPG. So in both cases the absolute same ammount of fuel (and thus money and pollution) was saved, but the horrendously stupig MPG unit difference is 7 in one case versus 2 in the other case! Now you tell me which unit is the one with more grounding in reality und thus easier to use!
@@glockmanish of course you are correct Kwh! When I buy fuel, I pay by units of volume. If I buy 10 gallons (imperial) or 45.4 litres, I know I can do about 620 miles of 1000km. In Britain we make our lives complicated by still using miles, but have to buy fuel by the litre (which I translate to gallons). Cars have been advertised with mpg for 40+ years. We are used to it!
just ordered mine. I love them... a great honest review - must be honest though regrading the rear camera - genius would have been a simple fold away system such as on the merc... the camera never GETS dirty in the first place!
I have the 20’s. But yeah, 18’s would be even better for range especially with the low rolling resistance tires but thought 18’s looked too small on the car.
From Fraser, husband of Leslie At last, AT LAST !!! somebody in an EV charging company has realised the idiocy of insisting on phone apps, and other bullS**it to charge your car. The new Ecotricity units actually make charging easier than filling with fuel, apart from the waiting time, of course. I am a "Jag man" of long standing, going back to the 80s and am wary of Jaguar becoming an all-EV brand, but the I-Pace gives one hope. I just hope the charging times and vehicle ranges can be improved.
Nice car, great review. By the way, my Audi e-tron 50 has a rear camera lens cleaner too. I was as astonished as you were Robert when I discovered it! 🤣👍
fanboy, fyi this post was about the I-PACE.... But if you really need a BEV with a "real world" range of 320 miles and that can charge in a reasonable time to eat lunch... you will need to get an Ionic 5 or the other E-GMP BEVs...
Lunch? That's nothing. We had a whole night's sleep while our two seater charged to it's 73 mile maximum. And do you know, thats all we need. It's horses for courses.
Loved the JAGUAR I-PACE since it was released though saw a few mentions that it hasn't been selling well, unsure why. Much rather have a Jag then audi, merc or bmw....
Have to point out that the Skoda Enyaq has a washer of the rear view camera. At least the Nordic versions 🤔 Also noticed the Jag has washers for the headlights, very important up here, especially in the winter.
I look at the iPace. A truly pretty SUV, and apart from a Tesla or two, alone in an otherwise truly ugly format. And it doesn't sell it fantastic numbers. This is an EV - there's almost zero to go wrong. And it's beautifully made. I can't afford one, but I sat in one as it went along and wished I could. That rarely happens with me. Super quiet, great handling on and off-road. This thing ought to be the new premier Chelsea tractor. Without the diesel tractor noise, of course. 😄
As a recent owner totally agree. This is my first SUV (it doesn't look or feel like an SUV) and never planned to have one but it's just a super nice and practical car.
I love the Jaguar I Pace, my favorite car! But I have to say, my 2017 Chevy Bolt EV Premier has a rearview mirror that is also a camera, and it has a washer for the rear camera.
Still a great car this i-PACE. I regard this the mk 1.5. For the mk 2, I still reckon Jaguar just need to give this - somehow - another 40-50 miles range, and faster recharging. But certainly a seriously impressive machine... those that can afford one are very lucky indeed!
I'm surprised that both the video and comments make out dirty rear cams to be a common problem yet my Aygo and Yaris Dynamic have never given me this issue despite doing high miles in Cornwall. Guess Toyota position it well 😉 But I can't wait to finish my lease to go full electric and seeing Gridserve's first forecourt and now the first of hundreds of new Ecotricity services makes me very confident for when I have to do the long drives. My respect to the early adopters driving the industry and living through the horror stories.
Absolutely love your channel. I wish that the US had this advanced of a charging structure. Ergo, hybrids are purchased as a safety feature, especially in the Midwest and center of the country.
Thanks all! 🙂 👍 Now all we need is a similarly easy to use charging infrastructure in our towns and cities, so that local drivers can benefit. The sooner that stupid apps, dedicated cards and fobs are scrapped, the better. Not everyone owns, or wants to own, a smartphone. The present 'my island is bigger than your island' charging mentality is really frustrating for large numbers of people.
Litres to 100km is now the standard in OZ, it took a little time to get used to. KM to the litre would be so much easier. When you are used to MPG it's back to front.
I’m a Brit living in France so for most of my life have been an mpg guy. Since getting an EV the world has been kWh/100km which for me makes sense now. I know my battery is 64 kWh big so if I’m doing 15 kWh/100 km I’ve got about 4 lots of that to play with so 400 km...easy.
Here in Sweden the iPace costs just about twice as much to lease, as an Audi eTron quattro. Doubt I'll be seeing more iPaces on the road anytime soon :(
I know people seem to get annoyed talking about towing but in this ‘segment’, to use a car salesman’s term, in this ‘segment’ towing is important. Most useable 2 person and up caravans weigh 1300kg or more.
Seeing Bobby's enthusiasm for rear cam washer warms a Norwegian heart, I'm sure many viewers here know about schmutzfest. But the MEBs have it too! At least the Skoda Enyaq, pretty sure the ID.4 as well.
The new Ecotricity/Gridserve is awesome will be good when they finish all the upgrades. The efficiency scale I prefer Wh/Km only setting I use on my classic Ioniq.
Question: So if I had a fully electric car and pulled up to the charge point, how could I access the charging screen from my wheelchair if my car has to be up against the front wheel stops? There doesn’t seem to be enough room in front of the car...Many thanks.. (Phil - Lancashire)
This is a fair question and I’m afraid I don’t know the answer, ecotricity used to let you pay from the app and, depending on what make of vehicle you may have an app may allow you to remotely pay for the charging and monitor the state of charge from the app or inside the car. I do hope the designers have considered this though
@@snowstrobe Yep, even though cars are getting more efficient. They're actually going less efficient overall. As people are moving up in size, so does their fuel consumption.
Wow Robert, I think we’ve just found your happy button, put in an auto washer on the reverse camera !! Happy days eh. Btw here in Australia we do use litres / 100 klm. I love your “la de da Tesla “ comment, Great show as usual. Thank you.
I like the VW way better, where they place the camera under the badge, which pops up when you go in reverse. The best dirt on the lens is the one that never even gets there :-)
A wonderful and joyous review! We have had our I Pace for over two years now and still love it. I know it is expensive but have reached an age where if we don't start wasting money on luxuries, the kids and taxman will! I don't think owning an SUV is a sign of wealth as most are just renting them and ensuring they will always be poor.
Some nice touches from JLR there. When I had my RX7 35 years ago, I thought it was pretty cool to have headlight washers. Camera washer just seems like an obvious thing to do. Part of my reasoning for buying a Tesla (other than spending the inheritance on something for retirement) was that there was the charging network. I can only applaud Ecotricity/Gridserve for putting in more, faster, and simpler chargers. Another milestone reached ... the future is coming to us.
Every reviewer always forgets to say if the preheating of the EV's interior is only when it's plugged in or not. This is something that's very important to people who cannot charge at home!
Haven't heard about any new EVs that cannot preheat interior on battery alone, I think that was a more common issue on older and cheaper EVs that did not have app-control either. Preheating the battery is on the other hand only possible on the I-Pace when plugged in.
Glad you liked the Tritium chargers Robert. Tritium is an Australian company and the reason the hose was ‘chunky’ is because the charger is designed to operate between -35C and +50C. I do wish JLR would do what Porsche/Audi (for the e-Tron) have done to improve battery cooling - i.e. put a chiller in the battery cooling system. If Jaguar did this the i-Pace would have a much better range, especially in Australian summer temperatures…. BTW: Australia now specs fuel consumption as L/100 km (ICE) and kWh/100 km for EVs.
Nice to see you still get so excited about the small things in life Robert…😄. However, it’s worth pointing out that Ford’s F150 Raptor (yes one of them fuel guzzlers 😂) used to come with one of those camera washers for the front facing camera. It would come on when the 4-high gear ratios were engaged… this was on a 2014 model BTW. If anything Jaguar is only catching up 😂. Nice review though. Hopefully soon, one will be able to drive from John o’Groats to Lands End without any “range anxiety.”
My Skoda have had a jet of washer fluid to the rear view camera since my old Superb from 2013. Tried an Enyaq yesterday and I must say, if it didn’t have it I wouldn’t be interested.
@@judebrown4103 I thought it was lovely. Very much a natural progression from my current Superb Estate (2017). A few things we're a bit odd (there's a lump above the middle passenger in the back) and the panoramic roof ends further forwards than it does on my Superb but unless you're very tall (I'm 195cm) I don't think you would mind. Was slightly dissappointed in how far back the middle console stretched considering it's just empty under the armrest but this was minor. As a car? All good. HUD was cool and took away any doubts I had regarding the small drivers dash. If I get one I think I'd have to spec it almost to the max though, and the price of that is pretty dear considering the Ioniq5. We'll have to see what figure the dealer gets back to me with.
@@903lew reckon the odd lump in the back might be hiding some camera /sensor or other.. if not the third brake light but I expect you would have been able to see that. I did manage to spec one at just around £35k but not sure if I included the HUD which sounds like it might be indispensable... Oh dear now I'll have to have another play! 😀 It's only a dream for the next few years anyway, so hoping for some well spec-ed second hand ones by then! Thanks for letting me know your experience. 👍
@@judebrown4103 Possibly but there was an awful lot of roof left before the rear of the car. Seems like an odd decision for me. Also, the shortness of the glass was strange as the Superbs is much longer, my boy loved it when he was sitting in a rear-facing chair. Not sure I'll make the switch as of now (though I'd love to). The Superb gets 5,5l/100km in my driving and I only do about 10k km/year so it really doesn't make sense unless I can get a steal on the lease of an 80x. But with the Ioniq5/EV6 destroying the game in terms of charging speed I'm not terribly convinced of buying a new vehicle with less than 200 kW fast charging. With my family situation (one kid with another on the way) and how I drive (85% longer trips) I think charging speed is the most important feature for me. I rarely go further than 250km/stint and rarely more than 800km/day but having to add time to stops would, I think, drive me and the boy crazy. So we'll see. I must say though, it was the first EV I could see myself actually own.
@@903lew I really need to go and look at one now, you've made me very curious as to what's going on in the roof! The only thing I'll need to get in the back is the dog and my stealth mobility vehicle (folding electric bike!) so the centre console shouldn't prove to be a bother. Totally agree about quicker charging speeds in the Huyundai and the like, although I'm impatient to be able to go electric I am glad of the wait. Reckon by '24 there will have been some good advances in that field. In the mean time I'm hoping we might have a look at something in the second hand market. This last year has certainly been great for research! Hope you find the best car for your family.
I-Pace awesome car having owned for over 2 yrs and over 22k miles now. JLR marketing team needs to look at what they are doing or rather not doing as they are not doing justice to the car that's won 60 international awards and thousands on happy customers. Ignore the bad press, this car does definitely 220miles in Winter and 260miles in Summer real world figures, I am on 20inch wheels. Granted expensive but on par with Audi and Merc, cant compare with likes of Kona as alot of people do, did you used to compare a Ford focus 1.8 with a F Pace SVR before?
SUVs are great! A big box that carries all your shtuff. I love my 2013 Audi Q7 TDI and I'm waiting for a BIG *AFFORDABLE* electric SUV. Meanwhile we haven't used the Q7 for 5 days as our Smart EV works just fine for local shopping.
Lovely, entertaining video! You said "51kWh" charged with the cost being 30p per kWh. So total cost to charge for this episode is "15 quid and 30 pence"? Is this cheap or expensive in the UK?
Kind of expensive. A standard home rate would be ~16p kWh. There are some cheaper TOU tariffs around where you can charge at home overnight much more cheaply.
You can get 8p/kWh overnight at home. Some charging companies were price gouging at 70p+ per kWh. For context, 320 miles of petrol in a car that does 50MPG, is probably £30+ ish of petrol.
I’ve got a Chevy bolt, premier version, and I cannot express of the importance of the surrounding cameras enough!! , especially the rearview camera. You could have completely black tinted windows, or the backseat full of people or boxes, and still be able to see completely behind you, using the LCD “rearview mirror” camera. I would not get another vehicle without it!
Seeing footage of the multi charger sites in the UK makes me jealous, and it's certainly far more advanced than we are here in NZ with our single and occasionally dual charger sites. On the topic of SUVs, a friend of ours recently bought a Mitsubishi Outlander and a small Suzuki hatch for $55k. An Outlander PHEV on is own is $55k, and a Kona EV is $75k. So I'd say a midsize $35k SUV is much cheaper than a $75k small SUV EV.
I test drove a fully loaded 2019 model. Absolutely loved it. Just waiting for the price to come down a bit more. Oh, and in the US you don't have to be rich to own a petrol or diesel SUV. They're a dime a dozen. It's the EV SUVs that only the well off have.
@@MartinStephenson1 Depends on how much you put into the car. My first charge was free (yay) and the other two were on the Tesla Superchargers alongside at 24p per kwh.
Wonderful, so Ecotricity have installed a bunch of working chargers somewhere. However try to drive from London to Oxford (M4, M25, M40) and there is only one working low-ish powered Ecotricity charging point on the entire route. The rest were out of service today. Nightmare. This isn't confined to Ecotricity. The contactless pay panel on a CCS charging point in Brixton wouldn't phone home. The on street "lamppost" chargers nearby were all blocked either by roadworks or someone just parking an IC car. The CCS chargers around Oxford had similar problems. If you are trying to get from A to B, own an EV with a 7kW on board AC charger and don't want to wait en route for 3-4 hours for your car to charge at a "fast" charger, CCS are the only charging points worth looking for. As for the camera washer, what's so new? They had headlamp washers over 20 years ago. Exactly the same idea.
What people rarely mention about EV efficiency (the Jag is very inefficient) is that though they may have a high rate of charging you need twice as much electricity… so they take twice as long to charge as they otherwise would.
Bobbie.....is it true that if I was charging at a gridserve happily sitting in my iPace and another ev came in and hooked up to the same charging station but on the second cable, my charge would stop?
I am thinking about buying a used Ipace or a PHEV. My question is battery life, doing 10000 miles pa in a PHEV would require charging every day for a 30-35 miles commute, how long will the battery last? The same mileage in an ev would require charging once a week, how long will that battery last?
I can only give you my limited experience. My Golf GTE is 8 years old. I get about 20 miles in summer and 15 in winter. It started life with 25 miles. My commute used to be 27 miles each way. I would charge at home and at work. Barely use the engine in summer (if driving for efficiency - it is a GTE) and use the engine for about half if pressing on. The newest PHEVs have up to 88 miles of battery range (Merc C-Class). That would be more than enough. But you may as well go electric. It’s cost me 8p/kWh at home and 22p kWh at work. So cheaper than fuel either way but practically free compared with petrol. I now hate burning my money on fuel when the battery gives me what I need for so much less. My engine is a 1.4T 4 cylinder, engine noise is just noise. It’s not a sonorous experience, I don’t grin when the engine kicks in, I grin at the acceleration. An EV gives that. My next car……second hand IPace HSE. Same price as this Golf GTE was 3 years ago. Things to watch out for……tyres, suspension and bushes. They wear fast. Also, tyre pressures have always been crucial to cars and are often overlooked. But with heavy cars, they make a lot of difference and should be kept on top of.
I have spoken to many people who own SUVs here are the reasons for purchase in the UK: - High driving position allows you to get a good view of the road over all those plastic bollards the councils have a love affair with. This is particularly important for shorter drivers, generally women. - High ground clearance and suspension travel that gives a comfortable ride over suberban speed humps. - Children can see out easily, being able to see above the window line and out of the front screen prevents car sickness - Space, lots of it for a family. Two of the points that I've researched by speaking to people have been 100% down to local council policies. The rear camera, nice idea for the washer, but the VW golf hides its rear camera behind the VW badge to stop it getting dirty in the first place. Nice big rear view mirror too, does it have electric memory position? iPace, like all cars that are not Teslas still suffers from a lack of a decent charging network.
Is it just me that thinks if they used the i paces platform and made a Land Rover variant (like a Range Rover sport) on it the would sell shed loads of them but I don’t know
8:40 They should charge the customers per minute for occupying the charger. That’s even easier to understand than kWh, and would prevent queues. Then use Peak/Normal/Night tariff to strengthen the effect of this, and use the grid wisely.
Think the question that needs answering is why do people perceive an SUV as a vehicle of choice? My view is that the roads in the UK are so poor that drivers feel they need an SUV to cope with the conditions. Unfortunately most of the SUV's are nothing more than 'jacked up' hatchbacks so the suspension is no more robust than on a normal chassis.
Just bought a used i-Pace and picking it up tomorrow. Would be interested in a review of charging companies and the ease of use of each (special cards, apps, contactless etc).
PS: I don't know what you currently drive but the I-Pace makes my previous Audi S4 Avant feel gutless. The I-Pace is shockingly quick for such a big, heavy car.
I like the BP Pulse network. If you pay a membership of £8/month then charging is £0.15/kWh. If you just use your credit card it’s £0.30/kWh I have one on my regular route so it’s great value
gorgeous car, i would love one of them. maybe if i win the lottery. as for the reverse cam spray, my Focus ST-3 used to have a spray nozzle to clean it as well. not many cars have that though.
I might be wrong here, but the 2021 model year seems to be exactly as the 2020 or 2019 model. Except for the infotainment system... and the backup camera washer...
Plenty of their chargers in Aus - all the RACQ and NRMA chargers as a start. These new 75kw chargers are all over the Gold Coast (thanks to the Gold Coast City Council)
@@jimmyjamesred Great to hear! WA is pretty bleak on the charging and EV end of things. Good to see an Aussie company doing well, hope they keep their HQ in Brissie :)
How can you possibly not get excited about BEVs when watching RL? BTW, Honda e has the same rear view mirror, and the parking camera is on the inside of the rear window and in the zone of the rear wash wipe. So you get a clean rear window and camera at the same time! Clever!
Because spilt petrol and diesel pollute the surface water run-off when it rains. Petrol station forecourts drain to a foul sewer instead of a storm sewer to stop this pollution going to a watercourse. The canopy is put in to stop the foul sewer being overloaded with surface water when it rains.... but still... as an EV owner I’d like be be dry too!
It's the UK... we don't (generally) get that much sunshine :p (yes, we do use solar in the UK, but I'm not sure the gains from a canopy over those spaces would be worth it, compared to spending the same money on e.g. wind turbines or similar...)
I'm guessing the addition of a jet wash for the cameras came out of Jaguar collaboration with Waymo and the next to be able to clear all the sensors on those cars reliable.
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Is the car more efficient vs the first version of the car or due to the better-charging infrastructure and software have this somewhat mitigated the problem?
With respect, to claim that Hybrid sales "collapsed" in 2020 is the biggest load of bullsh*t I've heard in a while! If Toyota Hybrid sales had been an individual brand, then they would have been the 4th largest car maker in the USA in 2020! Hybrid sales in Europe were up 13% in the first 3 months of this year and accounted for 67% of all Toyota Europe sales. If that's a collapsed market, I'd hate to think of how many they will sell when it rebuilds!!
Looks like the infotainment is still incredibly slow, for 70k it should be a lot smoother than that.
They'd be better off just bolting a iPad in there.
@Robert FWIW, most luxury brands that are still developing their own infotainment are sub par. Eventually they all will eventually outsource the software development and hardware requirements. Mostly to Apple or Google...
Have fun bolting on your overpriced iPad, in the meantime....
This post was so terribly adequate.
Round of applause to Jaguar for integrating the screen neatly into the dashboard. Screens that stick out on a bracket just look bloomin' awful. I'm looking at you, Tesla, for an extreme example.
Mercedes are the exception.
@@the___truth8038Mercedes are the worst. They put the screen so near to the driver that it looks like it is screaming 🙀
Ecotricity and gridserve getting together is going to change our travel/charging experience beyond measure, thank you to both companies.
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Something had to change, Ecotricity had become an embarassing joke, yes they started it all off, but failed to keep the momentum and became very unreliable. I hope the venture with Grid serve will fill the vital gap of reliable charging on the motorway network.
@@johndoyle4723 from what I have read and seen, ecotricity catered originally for those cars that were equipped with the “chademo” connectors and were very reliable. Since the introduction of type 2 and CCS they have proved to be very unreliable often not working at all This partnership with Gridserve will not only bring their chargers up to spec but will increase their reliability no end, all power to them (pun intended) contactless payment is also the way that ALL chargers should operate.
It’ll take more than 1 site to convince me of any change.
@@Sofala Gridserve has announced that it will be replacing existing EH chargers with 2 pumps in current locations, and additionally , multiple pumps (6-12) in locations where this is possible, and remote from the initial installation. Next one's in are Exeter for the larger installation.
Norway is above 50% EV share on new car sales every month now, and rising.
It’s a country with lots of money. If you check the numbers, the poorer the country , the smaller is that percentage. Some people will have to wait for second hand EVs to have their first one, but unlike the petrol cars, people will be afraid of the condition of the batteries. To be honest, I have higher priorities than buying new cars so, either I change to EV through a company car , or I will be keeping my dirty diesel car for around 10 more years until I know how the second hand market is really going in terms of reliability and battery conditions. Edit: just to be clear - IF I had the money i would already have one EV at my door.
@@joaoreis1079 There is certainly a correlation between GDP per capita and EV uptake but the more important thing is incentive and true advertising. Which is one of the main reason the EV up take in New Zealand is much faster than that of Australia.
In Norway simillar petrol or diesel cars are so highly taxed that electric one is cheaper.
Also Norway has clean electricity ...
But now they have a problem with crashed electric cars -- the cost is so high they don't repair -- just trash it on the junkyard..... also utlisation of such cars will be very expensive ....
@@joaoreis1079 well said. I own a petrol car that is 16 years old. It’s a Toyota and is extremely reliable and works just fine. I personally feel that keeping an older car going is much more environmentally friendly and cost effective than buying a new one. Plus like you said it will be many years before I can even think of affording an electric car. If I had the choice and money was no object. I might go for one, but probably would get a hybrid.
Electric cars simply isn’t an option for most of the UK right now and won’t be for many years to come even with the government grants, which only apply to new cars!
@@MrRiddle0 what do you mean incentive and true advertising? Australia will be one of the last countries to go really go for EV the harsh landscape and sheer size of the country will make it massively difficult. So comparing New Zealand and Australia just isn’t fair.
Hooking up with Gridserve looks to be one of the best things Ecotricity have done for a while. Let's hope the relationship works out for them.
I suggest that one overlooked point is that the 'ethos' of Ecotricity and Gridserve are in unity. Both promote EVs for ethical reasons rather than being dragged along reluctantly by outside pressures.
I own a 2019 I Pace HSE . Absolutely love it ! Great performance....beautiful styling....excellent handling. I always look forward to driving my I Pace. Great review !
They go good as well.
You are one of them rich people then 😉
Tapping your BANK CARD TO CHARGE. Fucking genius. It's idiotic that it's taken this long but here we are.
Whats better than a card - NO CARD.......like Tesla have done from the start........
The law was changed in 2019 requiring all new chargers to offer card payment. Getting the Car to transmit the customer ID/payment as standard should be the next legal standard.
I know.. it's as if ECOT have been app based and Polar and others have been contactless for years.
Oh wait..
um u mean like TESLA????????
Australia has not used MPG for 50 years. It has been exclusively L/100km for most of that time.
Energy/fuel per 100km is definitely the way to go since MPG can be quite non-intuitive. There is an excellent Engineering Explained video on it.
@@adsheff If you drive 8km the fuel efficiency is weird hugely variable based on traffic. The MPG metric seems nonsense to me, but I fully understand it's just how someone is used to something. Also check engineering explained, I think it highlights how fuel/100km makes sense.
Also knowing fuel per 100km, I can instantly estimate fuel usage for 1/10/25/50/200/300/500kilometer trips. If I know my car does 17.2kilometers per litter, the divisions are more complex 300/17.2 or 50/17.2 seems harder to calculate then 3*5.8 or 5.8/2 (17.2l/km is 5.8l per 100km)
@@adsheff You have just said that it is better to know fuel per km which is what L/100km gives you (divide by 100 to get fuel per 1km and then multiply by 8). e.g. a car does 6L/100km. Therefore for 8km we calculate 8x6/100 = 0.48L.
"If you drive 8km to work, you just multiply by 8 to get the fuel used." Incorrect - if your car has a km/L figure you would need to divide 8 by that figure so in the previous example the same car would do 16.6km/L. To work out how many litres you used: 8/16.66 = 0.48L
I know which math I can do more easily in my head.😁
@@adsheff it is easily dividable to any length you want and same goes for litre and guess what... money. You can do the math on the fly in your head while yelling at your kids to stop fighting. And you can scale it up or down easily too. I understand you are used to count distances in body parts, barleycorns and furrows so I am not here to convince you to switch.
Furlongs per pint!
The calculations are quite simple, so cars should just have the option to set the figures you want.
How many kWh does it take to go 1 km/mi, should be the standard, because it's really simple.
Lol, the simple enjoyments of life with a lens cleaner, but so true. I can't stop laughing on that reaction by Robert. But so relatable.
Me: hey Robert, why should I buy the new iPace?
Robert: It has lens cleaner on the rear camera 🤯!
My favorite part of genuine, authentic enthusiasm (and Robert's not lacking in those) for the whole video!
Range Rover Sport has wash too
At last someone giving this car the praise t it deserves!
disappointed to see that the new chargers don't have covers over them, again! Just a little canopy over the charger would be nice
SUVs aren’t a problem, but an opportunity. For myself, I could care less about luxury or features but care quite a lot about utility, repairability, and capability. Many EVs seem so focused on silly tech (touchscreens, power seats and doors, fancy lighting) but miss what’s important: ground clearance, ruggedness, simplicity, and 4WD.
I reckon Dacia and the new EV startups in China will give us the no frills and affordable EVs you and many others want..
If you want simplicity you dont want 4wd. Also most people dont go offroad. SUVs are just moronic status symbols. For real offroad use you buy an old Defender or land cruiser.
@@boltar2003 yep, currently have 2 LandCruisers. 4WD is required for me to get to my home. looking forward to someday charging an EV that can access my homestead using solar rather than keep burning diesel. thx for your input, tho 🤣
@@grantandre79 more EVS are 4WD than combustion because you just add another small engine, that engine can be more efficient at a different speed to the other one, as well providing more and safer regen, with better handling and less stress on drive components.
The main issue with SUVs is their frontal area and resulting poor efficiency, and general sheer size.
@@boltar2003
Or jeep wrangler which is what I own lol AWD SUVs are a joke off road only serious locked out 4 where drive can do it.
This is the first YT channel I've subscribed to. No regrets.
The Late Brake Show is another great RUclipsr to subscribe to.
@@octapc My mistake, the first channel I've paid to become a member of. I do follow LBS as well, just haven't committed to paying....yet.
The MPG isn't as good for working out efficiency, Engineering Explained went through this just recently.
Its especially confusing when you don't know if they are using imperial or US gallons.
yea how many barleycorns can you travel on a pint and 1/3 of a gill xD ridiculous
Love these. Still the best looking electric car on sale imho. Every time I see one it's a head turner!
The production in this video is amazing, i own both a jaguar i pace and soon to come a Porsche Taycan turbo S, can’t be happier with the electric change.
I am somewhat a bit sorry for the iPace but that charging location ... blew my mind! Two simple things (price written on charger, pay with bankcard), that will make travelling so much easier. We've been waiting for that for the past 4 years since our first Zoe! Thanks Robert and Fully Charged Team! You are an important part of that evolution!
No “That’s a --, this is a --, and this...is fully charged!” 😔
Yeah, the Fully Charged branding department needs a damn good slapping. First it ditched the PROPER intro sequence (yes, we haven't forgiven you or forgotten about that), and now it's failing to capitalise on a wonderful bit of friendly Channel identity shenanigans.
Signing off with "If you have been... Thank you for watching," is very good, but the Channel needs that cuddly intro.
It doesn't need copyrighting, but using the "That's a... Those are... and THIS is Fully Charged" formula costs nothing and would give every video a nice little corporate hug to show that it was part of the FC family and still loved...
Oh, wait; being loved and hugged would probably drive away too many precious Merkin Patreon supporters because love and hugs have just been banned for being fascistic war crimes and/or examples of insufficiently diverse physical assault in these uppity miserable socially-dystopian, gender-optional, shut up and stop looking at me and calling me a man or woman or human or whatever and DON'T TOUCH ME because I'm much more special and complicated than that' times... 🤪
Ha Ha...
That's funny - because I had exactly the same thought...!
I thought old Bobby seemed a little 'put off' during his intro - possibly with him having to park the car on a random grass verge...?
No doubt, "normal service" will resume on the next one.
The camera washing jet has been on the Bolt EV from Chevrolet since it launched. Unfortunately it is connected to the rear window washer, so if I only want to clean the camera I can't. I kind of wish it was followed up with a little low pressure compressed air, a problem I have is sometimes a droplet of water will hang off the bottom of the fisheye lens element and just stay there, it's protected from the wind by the flat back of the car.
it's been on cars since the early 2000s
This new charging place is not only important for brits but also for those of us from continental Europe that still want to visit that lovely island. Being able to just pay with my credit card is just fantastic.
And to the Jag, did it have that “transparent bonnet” feature like the Evoque? I think it is a very interesting feature, even in the cities.
I love that car, but has a major flaw: it's out of my poket range! 😭
Great video review. Pity about the negative comments of the Jaguar I-Pace from people who have never driven one let alone owned one. I have a 2020 ipace and it’s wonderful.
Ditto! And if you use CarWow or look at low mileage approved used then it's more affordable - some great deals to be had.
Yes I quite agree, I bought a 18 month old I-Pace se with only 3500 miles for £20,000 less than a new one and had an extra one year warranty.
In Australia it's litres per 100 kilometers as well, and we are all used to it.
Love my 2018 First Edition HSE. Superb handling, I love the looks, the Power, the silendce and interior quality. Now my 3 year lease is coming up to to an end at the end of the year, and I really don’t know where to go from here. BEV For sure, but having been used to the iPace for 3 years, it’s going to be hard to beat 👍🏼🇳🇴⚡️
Another Ipace surely?!!
SO pleased to see the Ecotricity and Gridserve upgrades starting to roll out. As the driver of a Nissan Leaf with a realistic 75-80 mile range these motorway sites are vital for me when travelling longer distances. If they can roll out many more sites like the one featured then I’ll probably keep my existing car rather than upgrading to something with a longer range. Using the old network was really hit and miss, but these new ones look great! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
kWh/100km please. Then I know how much I comsume and how far I can go.
How is that easier than 6km per Kw? More km is good, so big numbers are better.
@@lfo414 1st: IT IS kWh ... kilowatt-hours !!! Or how many horse-power did you put into your fuel tank today?! If you want to talk about units, please use the correct ones!
"Range per unit of energy" (eg. MPG, km/L, mil/kWh) is stupid and invented by marketing departments. This is a way to let minute differences in efficency have a stupid unit inflate exponentially, or the other way arround mask stupidly thirsty engines/motors with small changes in efficiency numbers.
"Energy per unit of range" (e.g. Wh/km, kWh/100km, Wh/mil) is what ACTUALLY matters, just because you don't decide how far you drive based on the energy onboard the vehicle, but you want to know how much energy you have to put in to reach your destination.
Example from the fossil world: A manufacturer busts their nuts of to reduce the consumption from 5 to 4,5 L/100km ... this difference looks minute and in real life it actually is. In the stupid MPG unit this equates to 56 vs 63 which actually fools many people to believe the latter one being a much more efficient vehicle, when in reality the variation in comsumption is bigger than the claimed improvement.
Now we take that same negligable difference for a larger vehicle with a consumption of 10 versus 9,5L/100km. This equates to 28 vs 30 MPG.
So in both cases the absolute same ammount of fuel (and thus money and pollution) was saved, but the horrendously stupig MPG unit difference is 7 in one case versus 2 in the other case!
Now you tell me which unit is the one with more grounding in reality und thus easier to use!
@@glockmanish of course you are correct Kwh! When I buy fuel, I pay by units of volume. If I buy 10 gallons (imperial) or 45.4 litres, I know I can do about 620 miles of 1000km. In Britain we make our lives complicated by still using miles, but have to buy fuel by the litre (which I translate to gallons). Cars have been advertised with mpg for 40+ years. We are used to it!
just ordered mine. I love them... a great honest review - must be honest though regrading the rear camera - genius would have been a simple fold away system such as on the merc... the camera never GETS dirty in the first place!
Such an under rated EV, even before the refresh
For me it's the most overrated.
To be honest with 1 phase charging and shitty range, many bugs the 1st gen sucked. This gen however is EPIC
@@MrRollingEgo I average 280 miles with mine. I’ve never had an issue with range.
@@shawnkenney2861 really? That much range? Do you have 18 inch wheels?
I have the 20’s. But yeah, 18’s would be even better for range especially with the low rolling resistance tires but thought 18’s looked too small on the car.
Would have been good if you covered ALL the changes and improvements from previous models. What is max charge rate, WLTP range and so on
it was mentioned in the video...?
4:16 maybe watch the video next time?
That's a really good looking Jaguar. Best looking electric car for sure.
From Fraser, husband of Leslie
At last, AT LAST !!! somebody in an EV charging company has realised the idiocy of insisting on phone apps, and other bullS**it to charge your car. The new Ecotricity units actually make charging easier than filling with fuel, apart from the waiting time, of course.
I am a "Jag man" of long standing, going back to the 80s and am wary of Jaguar becoming an all-EV brand, but the I-Pace gives one hope. I just hope the charging times and vehicle ranges can be improved.
Nice car, great review. By the way, my Audi e-tron 50 has a rear camera lens cleaner too. I was as astonished as you were Robert when I discovered it! 🤣👍
Even Skodas have it 😉
The Chevrolet Bolt EV has had the rear cleaner since 2017. Wish the Model 3 I had, had it and the Niro EV I have now.
Used the new Superchargers at Rugby on Sunday. 43 - 320 miles range in the time taken to eat lunch. Very impressive!
fanboy, fyi this post was about the I-PACE....
But if you really need a BEV with a "real world" range of 320 miles and that can charge in a reasonable time to eat lunch... you will need to get an Ionic 5 or the other E-GMP BEVs...
@@nc3826 I think Rugby is where they were.
SP, good luck with ur apparent Rugby head trauma.
Lunch? That's nothing. We had a whole night's sleep while our two seater charged to it's 73 mile maximum. And do you know, thats all we need. It's horses for courses.
Thanks for let us know where the chargers are coz Robert forgot!
Loved the JAGUAR I-PACE since it was released though saw a few mentions that it hasn't been selling well, unsure why. Much rather have a Jag then audi, merc or bmw....
Lots of folks can't see past the Tesla. It's an underrated gem which is why I got one nearly new for a lot less than the new price.
Have to point out that the Skoda Enyaq has a washer of the rear view camera. At least the Nordic versions 🤔
Also noticed the Jag has washers for the headlights, very important up here, especially in the winter.
Skoda had it also when they launched their ICE Kodiaq or Superb in 2017
I look at the iPace. A truly pretty SUV, and apart from a Tesla or two, alone in an otherwise truly ugly format. And it doesn't sell it fantastic numbers. This is an EV - there's almost zero to go wrong. And it's beautifully made. I can't afford one, but I sat in one as it went along and wished I could. That rarely happens with me. Super quiet, great handling on and off-road. This thing ought to be the new premier Chelsea tractor. Without the diesel tractor noise, of course. 😄
As a recent owner totally agree. This is my first SUV (it doesn't look or feel like an SUV) and never planned to have one but it's just a super nice and practical car.
I love the Jaguar I Pace, my favorite car! But I have to say, my 2017 Chevy Bolt EV Premier has a rearview mirror that is also a camera, and it has a washer for the rear camera.
Still a great car this i-PACE. I regard this the mk 1.5. For the mk 2, I still reckon Jaguar just need to give this - somehow - another 40-50 miles range, and faster recharging. But certainly a seriously impressive machine... those that can afford one are very lucky indeed!
I'm surprised that both the video and comments make out dirty rear cams to be a common problem yet my Aygo and Yaris Dynamic have never given me this issue despite doing high miles in Cornwall. Guess Toyota position it well 😉
But I can't wait to finish my lease to go full electric and seeing Gridserve's first forecourt and now the first of hundreds of new Ecotricity services makes me very confident for when I have to do the long drives. My respect to the early adopters driving the industry and living through the horror stories.
Hahaha. The La Te Da Tesla end, while charging a $90,000 US Jaguar. Now that's la te da if you ask me. Love your reviews etc.
Absolutely love your channel. I wish that the US had this advanced of a charging structure. Ergo, hybrids are purchased as a safety feature, especially in the Midwest and center of the country.
Thanks all! 🙂 👍
Now all we need is a similarly easy to use charging infrastructure in our towns and cities, so that local drivers can benefit. The sooner that stupid apps, dedicated cards and fobs are scrapped, the better. Not everyone owns, or wants to own, a smartphone. The present 'my island is bigger than your island' charging mentality is really frustrating for large numbers of people.
Litres to 100km is now the standard in OZ, it took a little time to get used to. KM to the litre would be so much easier. When you are used to MPG it's back to front.
I’m a Brit living in France so for most of my life have been an mpg guy. Since getting an EV the world has been kWh/100km which for me makes sense now. I know my battery is 64 kWh big so if I’m doing 15 kWh/100 km I’ve got about 4 lots of that to play with so 400 km...easy.
Here in Sweden the iPace costs just about twice as much to lease, as an Audi eTron quattro. Doubt I'll be seeing more iPaces on the road anytime soon :(
Reversing cameras (law in the US) are so cool on the Golf they are hidden in the VW badge, so stay clean, great engineering.
Very nice! Thank you for sharing!
I know people seem to get annoyed talking about towing but in this ‘segment’, to use a car salesman’s term, in this ‘segment’ towing is important. Most useable 2 person and up caravans weigh 1300kg or more.
Your channel is a beautiful gift
Thank you so much 😀
@@fullychargedshow what? - you fell for that......??!!
(just kidding - I think your lovely too.......!)
Seeing Bobby's enthusiasm for rear cam washer warms a Norwegian heart, I'm sure many viewers here know about schmutzfest. But the MEBs have it too! At least the Skoda Enyaq, pretty sure the ID.4 as well.
The new Ecotricity/Gridserve is awesome will be good when they finish all the upgrades. The efficiency scale I prefer Wh/Km only setting I use on my classic Ioniq.
Hey Robert, you can select consumption format from the settings menu...
A joyful ipace review, well beyond my means but terrific to watch
Question: So if I had a fully electric car and pulled up to the charge point, how could I access the charging screen from my wheelchair if my car has to be up against the front wheel stops? There doesn’t seem to be enough room in front of the car...Many thanks.. (Phil - Lancashire)
This is a fair question and I’m afraid I don’t know the answer, ecotricity used to let you pay from the app and, depending on what make of vehicle you may have an app may allow you to remotely pay for the charging and monitor the state of charge from the app or inside the car. I do hope the designers have considered this though
@@paulgirling1 Rugby services isn't coming up on my Ecotricity/Electric Highway app, so a question indeed. [Corley, Watford Gap etc. are there.]
Thank you so much for your remark on the SUVs! I mean the promise to be more polite about Electric ones :) Great stuff, as always
Apparently all the efforts to make ICEs cleaner has been undone by the predominance of these larger cars.
@@snowstrobe
Yep, even though cars are getting more efficient. They're actually going less efficient overall.
As people are moving up in size, so does their fuel consumption.
Wow Robert, I think we’ve just found your happy button, put in an auto washer on the reverse camera !! Happy days eh. Btw here in Australia we do use litres / 100 klm.
I love your “la de da Tesla “ comment, Great show as usual. Thank you.
The camera washers are such a nice brilliant feature, think most JLR products have it these days
I like the VW way better, where they place the camera under the badge, which pops up when you go in reverse. The best dirt on the lens is the one that never even gets there :-)
What a beautiful vehicle! A bit out of my price range but love it all the same.
A wonderful and joyous review! We have had our I Pace for over two years now and still love it. I know it is expensive but have reached an age where if we don't start wasting money on luxuries, the kids and taxman will! I don't think owning an SUV is a sign of wealth as most are just renting them and ensuring they will always be poor.
Some nice touches from JLR there. When I had my RX7 35 years ago, I thought it was pretty cool to have headlight washers. Camera washer just seems like an obvious thing to do. Part of my reasoning for buying a Tesla (other than spending the inheritance on something for retirement) was that there was the charging network. I can only applaud Ecotricity/Gridserve for putting in more, faster, and simpler chargers. Another milestone reached ... the future is coming to us.
What a brilliant piece of a car 👍🏻
Every reviewer always forgets to say if the preheating of the EV's interior is only when it's plugged in or not. This is something that's very important to people who cannot charge at home!
Haven't heard about any new EVs that cannot preheat interior on battery alone, I think that was a more common issue on older and cheaper EVs that did not have app-control either. Preheating the battery is on the other hand only possible on the I-Pace when plugged in.
Glad you liked the Tritium chargers Robert. Tritium is an Australian company and the reason the hose was ‘chunky’ is because the charger is designed to operate between -35C and +50C. I do wish JLR would do what Porsche/Audi (for the e-Tron) have done to improve battery cooling - i.e. put a chiller in the battery cooling system. If Jaguar did this the i-Pace would have a much better range, especially in Australian summer temperatures…. BTW: Australia now specs fuel consumption as L/100 km (ICE) and kWh/100 km for EVs.
And the Rectifiers are supplied by another Australian company that listed (Rectifier Technologies RFT AU)
Nice to see you still get so excited about the small things in life Robert…😄. However, it’s worth pointing out that Ford’s F150 Raptor (yes one of them fuel guzzlers 😂) used to come with one of those camera washers for the front facing camera. It would come on when the 4-high gear ratios were engaged… this was on a 2014 model BTW. If anything Jaguar is only catching up 😂. Nice review though. Hopefully soon, one will be able to drive from John o’Groats to Lands End without any “range anxiety.”
Nice one Robert a great review....
What a sight.... umpteen chargers :)
My Skoda have had a jet of washer fluid to the rear view camera since my old Superb from 2013. Tried an Enyaq yesterday and I must say, if it didn’t have it I wouldn’t be interested.
@903lew I've had Skodas for years too. What did you think of the Enyaq?
@@judebrown4103 I thought it was lovely. Very much a natural progression from my current Superb Estate (2017). A few things we're a bit odd (there's a lump above the middle passenger in the back) and the panoramic roof ends further forwards than it does on my Superb but unless you're very tall (I'm 195cm) I don't think you would mind. Was slightly dissappointed in how far back the middle console stretched considering it's just empty under the armrest but this was minor. As a car? All good. HUD was cool and took away any doubts I had regarding the small drivers dash.
If I get one I think I'd have to spec it almost to the max though, and the price of that is pretty dear considering the Ioniq5. We'll have to see what figure the dealer gets back to me with.
@@903lew reckon the odd lump in the back might be hiding some camera /sensor or other.. if not the third brake light but I expect you would have been able to see that.
I did manage to spec one at just around £35k but not sure if I included the HUD which sounds like it might be indispensable...
Oh dear now I'll have to have another play! 😀
It's only a dream for the next few years anyway, so hoping for some well spec-ed second hand ones by then! Thanks for letting me know your experience. 👍
@@judebrown4103 Possibly but there was an awful lot of roof left before the rear of the car. Seems like an odd decision for me. Also, the shortness of the glass was strange as the Superbs is much longer, my boy loved it when he was sitting in a rear-facing chair.
Not sure I'll make the switch as of now (though I'd love to). The Superb gets 5,5l/100km in my driving and I only do about 10k km/year so it really doesn't make sense unless I can get a steal on the lease of an 80x. But with the Ioniq5/EV6 destroying the game in terms of charging speed I'm not terribly convinced of buying a new vehicle with less than 200 kW fast charging. With my family situation (one kid with another on the way) and how I drive (85% longer trips) I think charging speed is the most important feature for me. I rarely go further than 250km/stint and rarely more than 800km/day but having to add time to stops would, I think, drive me and the boy crazy. So we'll see.
I must say though, it was the first EV I could see myself actually own.
@@903lew I really need to go and look at one now, you've made me very curious as to what's going on in the roof!
The only thing I'll need to get in the back is the dog and my stealth mobility vehicle (folding electric bike!) so the centre console shouldn't prove to be a bother. Totally agree about quicker charging speeds in the Huyundai and the like, although I'm impatient to be able to go electric I am glad of the wait. Reckon by '24 there will have been some good advances in that field. In the mean time I'm hoping we might have a look at something in the second hand market. This last year has certainly been great for research! Hope you find the best car for your family.
I-Pace awesome car having owned for over 2 yrs and over 22k miles now. JLR marketing team needs to look at what they are doing or rather not doing as they are not doing justice to the car that's won 60 international awards and thousands on happy customers. Ignore the bad press, this car does definitely 220miles in Winter and 260miles in Summer real world figures, I am on 20inch wheels. Granted expensive but on par with Audi and Merc, cant compare with likes of Kona as alot of people do, did you used to compare a Ford focus 1.8 with a F Pace SVR before?
What a beautiful interior. Beautiful looks and beautiful drive.
My ID4 also have washer nozzle for the reversing camera. The camera is no longer under the VW emblem so it gets dirty quite easy.
Great to the figures for EV
SUVs are great! A big box that carries all your shtuff. I love my 2013 Audi Q7 TDI and I'm waiting for a BIG *AFFORDABLE* electric SUV. Meanwhile we haven't used the Q7 for 5 days as our Smart EV works just fine for local shopping.
Lovely, entertaining video! You said "51kWh" charged with the cost being 30p per kWh. So total cost to charge for this episode is "15 quid and 30 pence"? Is this cheap or expensive in the UK?
Kind of expensive. A standard home rate would be ~16p kWh. There are some cheaper TOU tariffs around where you can charge at home overnight much more cheaply.
You can get 8p/kWh overnight at home.
Some charging companies were price gouging at 70p+ per kWh.
For context, 320 miles of petrol in a car that does 50MPG, is probably £30+ ish of petrol.
I’ve got a Chevy bolt, premier version, and I cannot express of the importance of the surrounding cameras enough!! , especially the rearview camera. You could have completely black tinted windows, or the backseat full of people or boxes, and still be able to see completely behind you, using the LCD “rearview mirror” camera. I would not get another vehicle without it!
Seeing footage of the multi charger sites in the UK makes me jealous, and it's certainly far more advanced than we are here in NZ with our single and occasionally dual charger sites. On the topic of SUVs, a friend of ours recently bought a Mitsubishi Outlander and a small Suzuki hatch for $55k. An Outlander PHEV on is own is $55k, and a Kona EV is $75k. So I'd say a midsize $35k SUV is much cheaper than a $75k small SUV EV.
My 2017 Bolt EV has the feature that cleans the back cameras. So nice!
I test drove a fully loaded 2019 model. Absolutely loved it. Just waiting for the price to come down a bit more.
Oh, and in the US you don't have to be rich to own a petrol or diesel SUV. They're a dime a dozen. It's the EV SUVs that only the well off have.
I’ve been to the Rugby site 3 times since it opened just over a week ago. :)
How much does a visit cost on average. 30p/kwh seems quite expensive, almost up to diesel running costs. Thanks
@@MartinStephenson1 Depends on how much you put into the car. My first charge was free (yay) and the other two were on the Tesla Superchargers alongside at 24p per kwh.
Wonderful, so Ecotricity have installed a bunch of working chargers somewhere. However try to drive from London to Oxford (M4, M25, M40) and there is only one working low-ish powered Ecotricity charging point on the entire route. The rest were out of service today. Nightmare. This isn't confined to Ecotricity. The contactless pay panel on a CCS charging point in Brixton wouldn't phone home. The on street "lamppost" chargers nearby were all blocked either by roadworks or someone just parking an IC car. The CCS chargers around Oxford had similar problems. If you are trying to get from A to B, own an EV with a 7kW on board AC charger and don't want to wait en route for 3-4 hours for your car to charge at a "fast" charger, CCS are the only charging points worth looking for. As for the camera washer, what's so new? They had headlamp washers over 20 years ago. Exactly the same idea.
Thanks Robert, will those chargers also work on PHEVs?
No. PHEVs generally do not fast charge or have a CCS connector
What people rarely mention about EV efficiency (the Jag is very inefficient) is that though they may have a high rate of charging you need twice as much electricity… so they take twice as long to charge as they otherwise would.
Bobbie.....is it true that if I was charging at a gridserve happily sitting in my iPace and another ev came in and hooked up to the same charging station but on the second cable, my charge would stop?
Nice review, my i-pace is a week away, looking forward to it.
I have had my Mercedes 6 years and I have never needed to clean my camera. It retracks when not in use - a much better solution...
I am thinking about buying a used Ipace or a PHEV. My question is battery life, doing 10000 miles pa in a PHEV would require charging every day for a 30-35 miles commute, how long will the battery last? The same mileage in an ev would require charging once a week, how long will that battery last?
I can only give you my limited experience.
My Golf GTE is 8 years old. I get about 20 miles in summer and 15 in winter. It started life with 25 miles.
My commute used to be 27 miles each way. I would charge at home and at work. Barely use the engine in summer (if driving for efficiency - it is a GTE) and use the engine for about half if pressing on.
The newest PHEVs have up to 88 miles of battery range (Merc C-Class). That would be more than enough. But you may as well go electric.
It’s cost me 8p/kWh at home and 22p kWh at work.
So cheaper than fuel either way but practically free compared with petrol. I now hate burning my money on fuel when the battery gives me what I need for so much less.
My engine is a 1.4T 4 cylinder, engine noise is just noise. It’s not a sonorous experience, I don’t grin when the engine kicks in, I grin at the acceleration.
An EV gives that.
My next car……second hand IPace HSE. Same price as this Golf GTE was 3 years ago.
Things to watch out for……tyres, suspension and bushes. They wear fast.
Also, tyre pressures have always been crucial to cars and are often overlooked. But with heavy cars, they make a lot of difference and should be kept on top of.
I have spoken to many people who own SUVs here are the reasons for purchase in the UK:
- High driving position allows you to get a good view of the road over all those plastic bollards the councils have a love affair with. This is particularly important for shorter drivers, generally women.
- High ground clearance and suspension travel that gives a comfortable ride over suberban speed humps.
- Children can see out easily, being able to see above the window line and out of the front screen prevents car sickness
- Space, lots of it for a family.
Two of the points that I've researched by speaking to people have been 100% down to local council policies.
The rear camera, nice idea for the washer, but the VW golf hides its rear camera behind the VW badge to stop it getting dirty in the first place. Nice big rear view mirror too, does it have electric memory position?
iPace, like all cars that are not Teslas still suffers from a lack of a decent charging network.
Is it just me that thinks if they used the i paces platform and made a Land Rover variant (like a Range Rover sport) on it the would sell shed loads of them but I don’t know
8:40 They should charge the customers per minute for occupying the charger. That’s even easier to understand than kWh, and would prevent queues. Then use Peak/Normal/Night tariff to strengthen the effect of this, and use the grid wisely.
Think the question that needs answering is why do people perceive an SUV as a vehicle of choice? My view is that the roads in the UK are so poor that drivers feel they need an SUV to cope with the conditions. Unfortunately most of the SUV's are nothing more than 'jacked up' hatchbacks so the suspension is no more robust than on a normal chassis.
A used ipace s on a 2020 plate with 35,000 miles can now be had for £25K That has to be the best bargain around in 2023?
Great review. Thanks!
Just bought a used i-Pace and picking it up tomorrow. Would be interested in a review of charging companies and the ease of use of each (special cards, apps, contactless etc).
Don't even think about using an old Ecotricity charger with an I-Pace. Incredibly unreliable. Instavolt are always a good bet.
PS: I don't know what you currently drive but the I-Pace makes my previous Audi S4 Avant feel gutless. The I-Pace is shockingly quick for such a big, heavy car.
Moving from a Mitsubishi PHEV so, yes, it is a big step up in performance. I enjoyed the test drive!
@@richardgilyead7640 Best keep a change of underwear in the Jag then
I like the BP Pulse network. If you pay a membership of £8/month then charging is £0.15/kWh. If you just use your credit card it’s £0.30/kWh I have one on my regular route so it’s great value
gorgeous car, i would love one of them. maybe if i win the lottery. as for the reverse cam spray, my Focus ST-3 used to have a spray nozzle to clean it as well. not many cars have that though.
I might be wrong here, but the 2021 model year seems to be exactly as the 2020 or 2019 model. Except for the infotainment system... and the backup camera washer...
Lane keeping assist is no longer available
2021 also has an onboard 11kw charger instead of the original 7kw.
The irony of Tritium being used to build the charging network all over the world, except in Australia where the company HQ is located.
Plenty of their chargers in Aus - all the RACQ and NRMA chargers as a start. These new 75kw chargers are all over the Gold Coast (thanks to the Gold Coast City Council)
@@jimmyjamesred Great to hear! WA is pretty bleak on the charging and EV end of things. Good to see an Aussie company doing well, hope they keep their HQ in Brissie :)
How can you possibly not get excited about BEVs when watching RL? BTW, Honda e has the same rear view mirror, and the parking camera is on the inside of the rear window and in the zone of the rear wash wipe. So you get a clean rear window and camera at the same time! Clever!
Very good. Why do refuelling stations put canopies over petrol pumps but leave recharging points out in the rain?
Because spilt petrol and diesel pollute the surface water run-off when it rains. Petrol station forecourts drain to a foul sewer instead of a storm sewer to stop this pollution going to a watercourse. The canopy is put in to stop the foul sewer being overloaded with surface water when it rains.... but still... as an EV owner I’d like be be dry too!
Where were the chargers that were featured? did i miss that?
Kinda missing a trick to not put a solar panelled cover over those chargers...
It's the UK... we don't (generally) get that much sunshine :p (yes, we do use solar in the UK, but I'm not sure the gains from a canopy over those spaces would be worth it, compared to spending the same money on e.g. wind turbines or similar...)
I believe that the ecotricity charging station uses an adjacent field full of solar panels to charge the battery banks that feed their chargers
Which would you prefer: more chargers or fewer covered chargers?
I'm guessing the addition of a jet wash for the cameras came out of Jaguar collaboration with Waymo and the next to be able to clear all the sensors on those cars reliable.
Where was that new Ecotricity charging station?