My Theory is that Joy might be looking at the 5th new Emotion... Love. Love and Joy are not mutually exclusive, but can be seperate from another. My other Theory is that the Parents other Emotions were just at break when we saw into their Heads. There are only 5 Places on the Console so maybe there can only ever be 5 Emotions at work? Maybe we have a scene where Rileys Father feels Envy towards that Pilot Rileys Mother dreamt about and we see into the Console... And Disgust says "Well, thats not my Territory" and someone makes Place with Envy.
I love that the real answer is “cause they hadn’t invented that one in the first movie”, but you guys have a great explanation for it. Love your content 🫶🏻
I don’t think the emotions were lurking around elsewhere. I think they represent the nuance of emotion as you age. In the first movie, her jealousy is based on anger running the console. As we age, we gain the ability to recognize we’re not angry, we’re jealous.
Personally, I like the idea that eventually these new emotions will eventually create their own little console rooms, answering to the main control room. The main job of the main five becomes giving the immediate gut reaction to a situation, and then sending it on to the correct sub-committee to work through the emotions and reflect on the event. Like a big, emotion-based bureaucracy. I think thats a pretty accurate to how adults work.
Anxiety is waaaay to haywire, Fear will literrally be afraid of them. But i think at the end like in the first one when sadness can be happy and not sad 24/7, i think fear wont be afraid to be friends with anxiety
@@tahraethestoryteller6079 I guess I can see that cause if you look in Riley’s moms mind in the first film you can see the colors of anxiety in the background
emotions can also develop to major importance during puberty and up to around 25. It's not that they are temporary, but that they are becoming more important to the personality and experiences that are being developed. This could indicate a temporary shift, or it could be a notable change. having any emotion at the Core Station other than the 5 could indicate some variety of emotional disorder. This could be noting that the parents are neurotypical, as it's storytelling about the average person. (it's expected that children are not neurotypical, since their brains are still developing, which is why it's not an emotional/mental disorder solely until it persists into adulthood)
It wouldn't have bothered me as much if we hadn't seen the inside of MULTIPLE peoples heads besides just that family. I'm really hoping it makes sense in the context of the movie as a whole and they do address it.
They’ll probably be gone by the end of the movie. Or hinted at those being temporal. But also sometimes canons have to break in order to follow different ideas.
@@poochyenajones1362a good retcon doesn't make the og material completely wrong though. It just adds to the existing material by filling in gaps/plot holes. It shouldn't create new ones.
what could be cool is if we see riley thinking someone is judging her, then we see inside there head only to realise they think riley is judging them. Or theyre thinking about something entirely different like tacos or something. Would be really cool and flesh out how everyone might work differently. like having the inside of theyre brain look different or having theyre emotions look different from riley's.
Well, for a good chunk of Inside Out, Joy and Sadness were outside if the control room, maybe through incredibly convenient circumstances the other emotions weren't there either for one reason or another
Okay, so here is what I think could be the plot of this. With the new four emotions coming out and taking part in the main area, they will get along with everyone except Joy. Joy, feeling left out of this, decides to try and figure out if there is a fifth new one somewhere out there and could not get there. On thus journey, she learns what it means to really be Joy and finds out that she needs to be more than what she once was. When she gets back, she has matured into a new kind of Joy and allow one of the other emotions to take over since She is no longer the main emotion for Riley since Riley is growing up and seeing the world in a different way. Near the end of the movie, the new emotions fuse with the four they became friends with, giving Riley the five main emotions she will have for the rest of her life.
I think the parents do still have these emotions, they're just not in the control room at that particular time. Maybe as you get older you get multiple control rooms in your head to manage multiple things at once
my personal theory is that the new emotions are subsets of our 5 core emotions, by the end of the movie the new ones will combine with the current 5. fear and anxious, sadness and ennui, discust and embarrassment, then the last conflict will be having either joy or anger will combine with envy, but joy and anger have to earn it. I could be wrong but its fun to think about
I love this, personally tho I feel like disgust and envy would pair together, and anger and embarrassment would pair, leaving joy alone without a pairing
I can easily see there being something like "love" or something as a counterpart for Joy. Or euphoria or something along those lines. Also I thought each emotions seems to be a combo of sadness+another emotion, honestly.
I think love is so complex and can exist in so many ways that it embodies all the other emotions, like we see in Mom and Dad’s heads when thinking about their spouse (or the shirtless dude.) I wonder if Joy’s counterpart might also be a little too adult for this movie.
12:59 there is a fifth emotion we meet. It’s nostalgia but she’s in the movie for like ten seconds because technically she’s not supposed to come out until Riley turns 23
this occurred to me in the middle of the video: What if the new emotions end up 'fusing' with their more general counterparts, and that is what then makes them look like Riley? It would explain at least two separate seeming inconsistencies!
See that’s what I was thinking. Because the core 5 emotions do more than just what their names are. Like they are an umbrella emotion. But since Riley is going through puberty, the changes she is going through are going to bring these new emotions more front and center.
Before I've watched: The view inside the parent's heads are sort of how Riley would perceive it (or at least her emotions would). The other emotions aren't there because Riley and her emotions have no basis to extrapolate how the other emotions would react.
Joy's counterpart emotion if they go with that route is definitely going to be love, and I'm guessing that it is going to literally waltz in around the midpoint, after Joy is feeling left out from the other emotions naturally pairing together
Aren't anxiety and embarrassment just types of fear? And "enwee" is kind of a type of sadness? And Envy can be connected to anger. I always assumed the basic emotions could cause more complex ones by working together. (Fear+Joy=Suprise or thrill, for example.)
Not really, no. Sure, you can argue fear and anxiety are linked, but they are still different-- fear is an "in the moment" response focused on one specific thing, while anxiety is prolonged, long-term, and far more general. Ennui isn't sadness, it's absence-- like how depression isn't really just sadness either. Envy connecting to anger is a bit of a stretch, I feel, because while they can both cause the same responses being jealous is more like... anger or disgust plus sadness.
@@KudaKeileonAs pointed out in the first movie, Anger is really concerned with things being fair. When things aren't perceived to be fair, you get angry. Envy is not just a desire for something, but also includes the judgement that the thing's current owner doesn't deserve it, or doesn't deserve it as much as the self.
MY guess is that they're going to play the new emotions as being part of the 'subconscious''; they literally live under them, usually just touching up or adding nuance to the emotions the core give, but part of puberty includes their workspace being redone, which means they have to move in with the core emotions temporarily. It's going to be the movies way of explaining why teenagers are so all over the place emotionally, the sub-emotions are forced to operate at a core emotion level.
i think that Joy is going to take a back seat in the 2nd movie she already did the "accepting another emotion" thing and i could see them wanting to avoid repeating that whereas Fear, Disgust and Anger were much less utilized and frankly despite being present almost as much as Joy, Sadness was only really allowed to start doing something at the end when Joy finally accepted her so she didnt really have much of an arc.
As a Psych student, I've always been interested in how the 5 core emotions in the first movie reflect one of the major theories of emotions which is that there are 6 main emotions (they left out Surprise, but it was in some drafts of the movie) and the others are variants of those main ones. So, I was surprised (no pun intended) when I saw the trailer and that they were adding new emotions. I could be wrong (we went over this 2 years ago, I do not remember the entire course, sorry guys), but I don't think those specific 4 were the next main considered emotions, but it is true that over the years, more and more theories came out considering more and more emotions (nowadays, it's discussed as being more of a spectrum rather than any main/ background emotions). So, if they're going with the core 6/5 theory, and if mom and dad's core emotions remain the same, it doesn't really fit. What does fit with the original theory is if these new emotions are indeed variants of the old emotions - the core 5 remain the core 5 (into adulthood) but the others are around, being more or less active in different states of people's lives. Why they're only showing up now when Riley's felt them before, I'd say it might be because Riley is now aware that's what she's feeling, instead of labeling it as fear/ sadness/etc. She's also feeling things more intensely bc puberty. Long story short, from the psychological perspective, I agree with this explanation, but I don't think they'll end up merging the emotions at the end of the movie, my prediction is that they'll learn to coexist, becoming more comfortable with each other (maybe looking similar to each other over the years) and learning when to step back and step forward (maybe even other emotions taking the main role over from Joy, or even more likely, taking turns), much like in the first movie
My belief is that the new emotions stick around temporarily during the teenage years since it’s a huge emotional period of time for them. In the first movie we didn’t see any new emotions in the other heads and almost all of them were adults.
Actually anxiety dad was actually in like a McDonald’s ad and he appeared in the post credit scenes and the same with the mom except the mom anxiety wasn’t in the ad
I would love to see them show other people’s minds who do have anxiety at the forefront in adulthood for people who do have diagnosed anxiety or other dominant emotions for other neurodivergent minds!
@@The_Rusalkamaybe its cloned emotions and HQ. There are the main emotions for the main personality you have, and then there is a duplicate of those emotions but with their own HQ and islands.
I think Joy is gonna find that Her methods of having Riley experience Joy will become more different now that she is a teenager. Joy is kind of childish in her approach because of her obsessive positivity and it makes me feel like Joy really wants to focus on having Riley continue to find Joy from all the childish things but as you get older and you become your own person and your tastes change then you lose the Joy in the childish things and find Joy from different sources that you may ot have find them from before. Like when I became a teenager I started to find joy and happiness in the moments of calmness and stillness in life. Those moments when I have the complete freedom to just do what I want and relax. Maybe that is gonna be Joy's journey in the movie.
I feel like most of the new emotions are like unhealthy manifestations of other emotions Anger - Envy Fear - Anxiety Sadness - Enuii Disgust - Embarrassment Idk about Joy, maybe a 5th new one?
What if the unhealthy manesfestation of joy is sometging like addiction? You are very happy with something, but want more of it and you just arnt satisfied? Like think of a serial killer who gets joy from killing and gets realy exited over being wanted. I guess that would be adrenaline or some other word that i think has the word "Hex" in it. So much joy that it becomes a drug.
My theory is that given the last movie the original emotions will want to give the new emotions a chance but ultimately come to the conclusion that choices made from anxiety and the others are not the best choices Riley could make in hindsight. They might have to take control back to save Riley.
My theory is that until you get the new emotion, you can't really recognize that emotion in others. Riley never went through those new emotions so she couldn't recognize those emotions in her parents. She just attached than to one of the existing ones that she was familiar with. Essentially, what I'm describing is empathy. It's hard to empathize with someone until you've experienced something similar.
I can imagine Surprise or some form of imagination being a good counterpart for Joy. Surprise would be the most plausible as it was in the original script for the first movie, and joy usually follows surprise, and the reason it’s not in the teaser is cause Surprise! I don’t think imagination Is an actual emotion but there’s something going every time I feel a creative rush as an artist. Also imagination would fall into a joy-like category easily.
I don't know if he covers this idea in the video, but when the at break came I was just too excited not to share my own thoughts. I think that the reason these new emotions weren't represented in hq as of yet even though Riley clearly already felt them, is that thi is the age where she is going to begin understanding these emotions a lot more. In the first movie we can see she was still trying to get a grasp on her first core emotions. It may also have to do with the idea that it's much easier nowadays, in our modern world, to be open to figuring out these feelings, as mental health has never been considered as much as it is now. Also, love the idea of the new emotions living inside Riley's head before and just now moving in, I hope we get to see where each of these emotions was before. I also feel like the 4 new emotions will form together into their own sort of little gang of friends outside of being included with the originals. This I because they're all new and all less understood but also, in a sense, "younger" than the rest of the crew. Just seems right that they would be a little socially separate from the rest. I'm excited to see if this idea is realized in the film.
"Could there be a fifth new emotion waiting for us - a counterpart to Joy?" (cough) Yeah, remember the very sinister, evil laughter we hear twice in the trailer? I wonder, I wonder ... 😌
My mini theory is that once you get older the emotions such as Anxiety will form as one with another emotion such as fear and become one leading to fear having control over Anxiety and fear.
this is what fan theories are all about, we know the real reason is because they didn’t plan a sequel and stuff but now we get to figure it out “in universe”
I assumed that everyone has all the same emotions, but sometimes those emotions leave because they're less important????? Either way, I really hope that this movie explains the mysterious plot hole that we have.
OMG Thank you so much for this video! I had the exact same concerns when I saw the teaser the other day. The 'new' emotions are subsets and combinations of the core 5 (something research has shown are the 5 universally recognized emotions). The adults, and even the animals, didn't have the 'new' ones. Where did they come from, where do they go? Absorption by and/or temporary teachers for the core 5 is the perfect theory and I think where my brain was trying to go while completely flipping out. *Note: I'm a trained clinical mental health counsellor and Inside Out is my absolute favorite Pixar movie.
I definitely feel like Riley having felt all these emotions before is going to be part of the point of the movie, I'm sure there is going to be some conflict with these new emotions overlapping with the original 5 because when you think about it, Anxiety and Fear overlap, Ennui and Sadness overlap, Envy and Anger overlap, and Embarrassment and Disgust overlap. So I think that the idea that these emotions, that were already covered by the original 5, are now appearing in new physical forms is meant to represent the conflicting and confusing nature of puberty, that time where it's very difficult to figure things out up in your head. The reason that I feel like these emotions aren't in Riley's parents head is because they've left puberty and things have gone from very disjointed and chaotic up there with overlapping emotions, to more controlled and calm as time has gone on, they still feel these emotions, but they have gone beyond the point in their life where there is that idea of overlapping emotions causing chaos and confusion *wrote this before hand, J covers something very similar at the end, my bad lol
At the end of the movie after the credits there was a scene where anxiety was lurking around in the dad’s head. So yes they do have anxiety just in a different work station
I get why they only gave us 5 emotions,sure it's hard to have alot of ''main characters'' and due to time restraints but still I feel bad that they had to scrap alot of these guys,hopefully we get to see some of these guys in the second movie,they didn't tell us how many new emotions we're getting,we're only aware of 4 right now right? since it's just a trailer of course they're not going to spoil alot of characters and other stuff
What you say about retconning the new emotions is like the issue with Mike's line in Monsters, Inc about Sulley having been jealous of his looks since the fourth grade. When they were making Monsters University, they experimented with a storyline of them having known each other at school before drifting apart and meeting again at uni, but it was too complicated and instead they came up with the explanation that 'since the fourth grade' is simply a figure of speech in the monster world
I think why the parents didn't have Anxiety could also be Pixar bringing back a headquarters concept: The backrooms. When the movie was first being developed, there were way more emotions that were not present in the movie. Such as Pride, Schadenfreude, Hope, Ennui, and possibly more emotions that they were thinking of adding. However, there was too much so there we are, left with the 5 core emotions we have today. I think Inside Out 2, is gonna bring back the idea of the backrooms, where when Riley grows out of adolescence, the mind workers will have finished expanding Riley's mind and part of the expansion: The backrooms for the new emotions. They would be called whenever they were needed or like you said, they have mini-consoles they can use. This could also be a great possibility for at least 22 more emotions to be added (including anxiety, envy, ennui, and embarrassment.) waiting to be called in headquarters every day or they have their own rooms where they can use the mini-consoles.
I think the reason we didn't see the new emotions in the adults' heads in the first movie is because we were seeing things through Reilly's emotional lens. As we grow older, emotions become deeper and more detailed, especially in our perception of them in ourselves and others.
Maybe it’s because we see the movie from Riley’s perspective and she doesn’t have the emotional maturity to understand what these others emotions are. So when puberty hits she start to understand what the other emotions means and it’s not the only core 5. So when we see the parents head it’s through Riley’s perspective still and she doesn’t have the emotional knowledge to see other things.
I think that maybe there will be a counterpart for Joy as well, or simply that Joy will have to continue to mature as she did when she realized she needed to accept Sadness. When I became a teenager I began to experience a type of joy that was not necessarily cheerful... it was like a quiet excitement for the future, a knowing that my whole life was ahead of me. It wasn't a "jump for joy i'm so happy" kind of feeling, it sometimes felt even a little melancholic, but it wasn't a bad feeling. I still experience that sometimes as an adult when I can slow myself down and stop worrying about the future. I think it's a more mature version of Joy.
Maybe each of the core 5 will get their own division that the new emotions work under? Embarrassment works under Sadness, Anxiety works under Fear, etc…
The easy answer is The Emotions that run the Deck are "Core" Emotions while the New Emotions will end up being auxiliary emotions Note: The original Control center that got Destroyed was a Smaller control board The other Emotions weren't fully Developed For Mom and Dad in the first movie, the four core emotions are what Parents keep as their Primary Emotions
Puberty means child’s body is changing to adulthood does make sense having 4 new emotions. The new emotions represent the emotional swings that is puberty. Since the parents already experienced puberty these 4 emotions are subconscious Peer pressure = embarrassment Feeling uncertain = anxiety/fear Conflicting thoughts = anxiety Human sexuality = anxiety Irritability anxiety, fear anger In the trailers looks like Riley is hard time with maintaining familiarity from inside out 1 with going into middle school
Easiest solution is to visit the inside of the parents’ heads again, where now dwell all the new emotions, and cue a “we’ve been here the whole time” gag.
My best theory is why those specific emotions don't exist and inside out one is because Riley's parents are adults and so they probably learned how to manage those emotions as they come. But Riley being young and in her stages of puberty probably hasn't had the ability to recognize those emotions and or come up with a way to control them.
I was thinking that maybe she has a mental illness (for example anxiety) and that’s where the extra emotions came from since we saw into a lot of other peoples minds and none of them had any emotions outside the original 5
Riley doesnt need the emotion at the console to feel the emotion, (think of sadness touching the memories) it only means the the emotion is in control of her
I love that they have ennui! I've been using that word since I was a teenager!! I just turned 55 earlier this month. I have pictures of my cat that perfectly personify ennui!!!!
theory: the new emotions like anxiety are criminals of the mind that stage riots every now and then, which is why people feel such things to begin with sporadically, and Joy is gonna have another one of those moments of shutting out the other emotions since she's technically the only positive one, but then Sadness or someone else comes in and is like "maybe this is good for the long run" like in the first movie. So she keeps the original 5 but the others are in jail
I think each main emotion will eventually be the manager of a whole subset of emotions. For example, anger will be head of the anger department, which will include all sorts of emotions that can be categorised under anger.
My theory: Most likely the 4 new emotions don’t stick around forever and will probably die and be forgotten as a person becomes older (honestly that ending could hit harder than Bing Bong’s death if Disney actually focuses for once)
I'm assuming the reasoning is that during puberty, extra emotions come to help with the increased workload and leave after puberty is done. They especially seem to be emotions that are associated with teenagedom. I can easily see these emotions as more specific or combination versions of the core emotions, like on an emotion wheel.
I feel like the new emotions would have their own control panel in a separate room and be sort of subsets to the main 5. It would be more similar to how our emotions actually function. Plus, then they could probably keep making sequels and adding new characters
3:07-3:20 Anxiety: can I come out of the corner now? 😢 Anger: no anxiety! stay in F ing the corner Anger: we gotta make it look like parents don’t have anxiety! 😂
I'm hoping it's as simple as the new emotions are just for puberty and they merge with the og 5 as Riley ages because the new ones are basically branches of them
My personal idea or theory in this case is that love will be the new emotion cause at that time is when most people start getting serious crushes and stuff like with that one kid I forgot his name but they went on a date so joy will have a counterpart that is being love
A person learns to work with stress and anxiety, reframing them as opportunity and novelty. Anxiety shows up with shades and a leather jacket. "My name is Thrill now."
Each of their brain environments in the first movie has a root color, her mom's is orange, Riley's is blue, her dad's is grey (empty) but most of the mixed emotions are red.
The parents don't have those other emotions because the filmmakers had NO clue there'd be a sequel "oh I slept funny on that, so I guess now I'm injured" phase of life - that's where I'm at, too!
In the first movie the characters inside her head could also feel other emotions so maybe puberty just makes those emotions harder to handle and make individual emotions for them. And then after puberty when the emotions calm down they die and the normal 5 can just represent those emotions fully
Ok but seriously... what is their secret... can I rid myself of Anxiety?!?!
We all want that! Hope we find out🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
Stuff your mouth with food til you lose all feeling
GO FOR THE MUSTACHE! i think you would look good
@@noteagle4597y e s !
My Theory is that Joy might be looking at the 5th new Emotion... Love. Love and Joy are not mutually exclusive, but can be seperate from another.
My other Theory is that the Parents other Emotions were just at break when we saw into their Heads. There are only 5 Places on the Console so maybe there can only ever be 5 Emotions at work?
Maybe we have a scene where Rileys Father feels Envy towards that Pilot Rileys Mother dreamt about and we see into the Console...
And Disgust says "Well, thats not my Territory" and someone makes Place with Envy.
I love that the real answer is “cause they hadn’t invented that one in the first movie”, but you guys have a great explanation for it. Love your content 🫶🏻
and the thing is that they would probably not add them in the new movie because it would feel like they came late and wouldn’t feel the same
I feel so much anxiety about this!!!
(But not really.)
Well, they did, but they just chose not to include them, as J explained.
Yea but Pixar still has to address why they weren't in the last one!
@@Just_Haider_because they fell into the backrooms.
I don’t think the emotions were lurking around elsewhere. I think they represent the nuance of emotion as you age. In the first movie, her jealousy is based on anger running the console. As we age, we gain the ability to recognize we’re not angry, we’re jealous.
Yea but then why don't her parents have those emotions
I was thinking that as well. Her emotions are just more complex
She was definitely already old enough to experience those other emotions.
@@Just_Haider_ her father is a man child and her mother is a woman child
@@dunyacaliskan7495i agree but maybe it’s just because as she’s aged those emotions became more complex and distinct
Personally, I like the idea that eventually these new emotions will eventually create their own little console rooms, answering to the main control room. The main job of the main five becomes giving the immediate gut reaction to a situation, and then sending it on to the correct sub-committee to work through the emotions and reflect on the event. Like a big, emotion-based bureaucracy. I think thats a pretty accurate to how adults work.
I actually love that
Exactly! They’d be like a subset of the core 5
Fear and anxiety are definitely going to be besties. And I feel like disgust and envy will either get along really well or hate each other
This is gonna be a mean girls situation
Yeah, and then there's shenanigans of joy and lust as roommates, but that's a story for another day.
@@poochyenajones1362hush 😭
I think they would hate each other but have team up moments to make her envious and disgusted
Anxiety is waaaay to haywire, Fear will literrally be afraid of them. But i think at the end like in the first one when sadness can be happy and not sad 24/7, i think fear wont be afraid to be friends with anxiety
I think this movie is hinting that the new emotions are only temporary in order to fit Riley's current situation. The core five are permanent.
I don’t know in my experience anxiety is forever
@@tahraethestoryteller6079 I guess I can see that cause if you look in Riley’s moms mind in the first film you can see the colors of anxiety in the background
@@tahraethestoryteller6079it could be a play on the idea that not everyone has anxiety that often
emotions can also develop to major importance during puberty and up to around 25. It's not that they are temporary, but that they are becoming more important to the personality and experiences that are being developed. This could indicate a temporary shift, or it could be a notable change. having any emotion at the Core Station other than the 5 could indicate some variety of emotional disorder. This could be noting that the parents are neurotypical, as it's storytelling about the average person. (it's expected that children are not neurotypical, since their brains are still developing, which is why it's not an emotional/mental disorder solely until it persists into adulthood)
As someone with anxiety, it is not temporary
It wouldn't have bothered me as much if we hadn't seen the inside of MULTIPLE peoples heads besides just that family. I'm really hoping it makes sense in the context of the movie as a whole and they do address it.
They’ll probably be gone by the end of the movie. Or hinted at those being temporal.
But also sometimes canons have to break in order to follow different ideas.
@@Marigumilikesart It's called retcons. And they're everywhere.
@@poochyenajones1362a good retcon doesn't make the og material completely wrong though. It just adds to the existing material by filling in gaps/plot holes. It shouldn't create new ones.
what could be cool is if we see riley thinking someone is judging her, then we see inside there head only to realise they think riley is judging them. Or theyre thinking about something entirely different like tacos or something. Would be really cool and flesh out how everyone might work differently. like having the inside of theyre brain look different or having theyre emotions look different from riley's.
Well, for a good chunk of Inside Out, Joy and Sadness were outside if the control room, maybe through incredibly convenient circumstances the other emotions weren't there either for one reason or another
Okay, so here is what I think could be the plot of this. With the new four emotions coming out and taking part in the main area, they will get along with everyone except Joy. Joy, feeling left out of this, decides to try and figure out if there is a fifth new one somewhere out there and could not get there. On thus journey, she learns what it means to really be Joy and finds out that she needs to be more than what she once was. When she gets back, she has matured into a new kind of Joy and allow one of the other emotions to take over since She is no longer the main emotion for Riley since Riley is growing up and seeing the world in a different way. Near the end of the movie, the new emotions fuse with the four they became friends with, giving Riley the five main emotions she will have for the rest of her life.
I think the parents do still have these emotions, they're just not in the control room at that particular time. Maybe as you get older you get multiple control rooms in your head to manage multiple things at once
I like the idea that HQ actually have levels, so the core emotions are the Upper Management, and the other emotions just work behind the scenes
my personal theory is that the new emotions are subsets of our 5 core emotions, by the end of the movie the new ones will combine with the current 5. fear and anxious, sadness and ennui, discust and embarrassment, then the last conflict will be having either joy or anger will combine with envy, but joy and anger have to earn it. I could be wrong but its fun to think about
I love this! It makes so much sense
omg I just watched the whole video, he feels the same, YESSSSSS
I love this, personally tho I feel like disgust and envy would pair together, and anger and embarrassment would pair, leaving joy alone without a pairing
@@tropical_7736 that's what I thought of too, but I feel like fighting over envy feels more interesting
I can easily see there being something like "love" or something as a counterpart for Joy. Or euphoria or something along those lines. Also I thought each emotions seems to be a combo of sadness+another emotion, honestly.
Excitement!
I was also really hoping for a love type of emotion.
I was thinking about passion could be a great new counterpart for joy or it can be something else but I’m not that sure of it
I think love is so complex and can exist in so many ways that it embodies all the other emotions, like we see in Mom and Dad’s heads when thinking about their spouse (or the shirtless dude.)
I wonder if Joy’s counterpart might also be a little too adult for this movie.
@@PelafinaLievre I was thinking lust but ruled it out since it's a Pixar film!
12:59 there is a fifth emotion we meet. It’s nostalgia but she’s in the movie for like ten seconds because technically she’s not supposed to come out until Riley turns 23
Actual Reason: Those Emotions weren’t Invented for the First Film.
My Reason: The Core 5 Emotions Unionised.
this occurred to me in the middle of the video:
What if the new emotions end up 'fusing' with their more general counterparts, and that is what then makes them look like Riley? It would explain at least two separate seeming inconsistencies!
See that’s what I was thinking. Because the core 5 emotions do more than just what their names are. Like they are an umbrella emotion. But since Riley is going through puberty, the changes she is going through are going to bring these new emotions more front and center.
Update: Riley' Dad has Anxiety
Before I've watched: The view inside the parent's heads are sort of how Riley would perceive it (or at least her emotions would). The other emotions aren't there because Riley and her emotions have no basis to extrapolate how the other emotions would react.
Yep we know now nostalgia is pretty much joy counterpart
Supercarlinbrothers: why didn’t Riley’s parents have anxiety in the first movie?
The final trailer: we don’t do that around here
Joy's counterpart emotion if they go with that route is definitely going to be love, and I'm guessing that it is going to literally waltz in around the midpoint, after Joy is feeling left out from the other emotions naturally pairing together
Aren't anxiety and embarrassment just types of fear? And "enwee" is kind of a type of sadness? And Envy can be connected to anger.
I always assumed the basic emotions could cause more complex ones by working together.
(Fear+Joy=Suprise or thrill, for example.)
Not really, no. Sure, you can argue fear and anxiety are linked, but they are still different-- fear is an "in the moment" response focused on one specific thing, while anxiety is prolonged, long-term, and far more general. Ennui isn't sadness, it's absence-- like how depression isn't really just sadness either. Envy connecting to anger is a bit of a stretch, I feel, because while they can both cause the same responses being jealous is more like... anger or disgust plus sadness.
@@KudaKeileon But fear acts very anxious..
Wait, shouldn’t feeling nothing just be the emotions sitting back and not doing anything?
@@KudaKeileonAs pointed out in the first movie, Anger is really concerned with things being fair. When things aren't perceived to be fair, you get angry. Envy is not just a desire for something, but also includes the judgement that the thing's current owner doesn't deserve it, or doesn't deserve it as much as the self.
Ennui lol it literally was on the screen during the video
MY guess is that they're going to play the new emotions as being part of the 'subconscious''; they literally live under them, usually just touching up or adding nuance to the emotions the core give, but part of puberty includes their workspace being redone, which means they have to move in with the core emotions temporarily.
It's going to be the movies way of explaining why teenagers are so all over the place emotionally, the sub-emotions are forced to operate at a core emotion level.
i think that Joy is going to take a back seat in the 2nd movie she already did the "accepting another emotion" thing and i could see them wanting to avoid repeating that whereas Fear, Disgust and Anger were much less utilized and frankly despite being present almost as much as Joy, Sadness was only really allowed to start doing something at the end when Joy finally accepted her so she didnt really have much of an arc.
As a Psych student, I've always been interested in how the 5 core emotions in the first movie reflect one of the major theories of emotions which is that there are 6 main emotions (they left out Surprise, but it was in some drafts of the movie) and the others are variants of those main ones. So, I was surprised (no pun intended) when I saw the trailer and that they were adding new emotions. I could be wrong (we went over this 2 years ago, I do not remember the entire course, sorry guys), but I don't think those specific 4 were the next main considered emotions, but it is true that over the years, more and more theories came out considering more and more emotions (nowadays, it's discussed as being more of a spectrum rather than any main/ background emotions). So, if they're going with the core 6/5 theory, and if mom and dad's core emotions remain the same, it doesn't really fit. What does fit with the original theory is if these new emotions are indeed variants of the old emotions - the core 5 remain the core 5 (into adulthood) but the others are around, being more or less active in different states of people's lives. Why they're only showing up now when Riley's felt them before, I'd say it might be because Riley is now aware that's what she's feeling, instead of labeling it as fear/ sadness/etc. She's also feeling things more intensely bc puberty. Long story short, from the psychological perspective, I agree with this explanation, but I don't think they'll end up merging the emotions at the end of the movie, my prediction is that they'll learn to coexist, becoming more comfortable with each other (maybe looking similar to each other over the years) and learning when to step back and step forward (maybe even other emotions taking the main role over from Joy, or even more likely, taking turns), much like in the first movie
My belief is that the new emotions stick around temporarily during the teenage years since it’s a huge emotional period of time for them. In the first movie we didn’t see any new emotions in the other heads and almost all of them were adults.
Actually anxiety dad was actually in like a McDonald’s ad and he appeared in the post credit scenes and the same with the mom except the mom anxiety wasn’t in the ad
I would love to see them show other people’s minds who do have anxiety at the forefront in adulthood for people who do have diagnosed anxiety or other dominant emotions for other neurodivergent minds!
Yessss! That would be so cool
ADHD would just make the control scheme a singular button that says "Go".
I wonder how it looks for people with DID?
@@The_Rusalkamaybe its cloned emotions and HQ. There are the main emotions for the main personality you have, and then there is a duplicate of those emotions but with their own HQ and islands.
I want an autistic mind in the new inside out maybe have the core set and a 1
couple others like overstimulation and anxiety and hyperactivity
I think Joy is gonna find that Her methods of having Riley experience Joy will become more different now that she is a teenager. Joy is kind of childish in her approach because of her obsessive positivity and it makes me feel like Joy really wants to focus on having Riley continue to find Joy from all the childish things but as you get older and you become your own person and your tastes change then you lose the Joy in the childish things and find Joy from different sources that you may ot have find them from before. Like when I became a teenager I started to find joy and happiness in the moments of calmness and stillness in life. Those moments when I have the complete freedom to just do what I want and relax. Maybe that is gonna be Joy's journey in the movie.
I feel like most of the new emotions are like unhealthy manifestations of other emotions
Anger - Envy
Fear - Anxiety
Sadness - Enuii
Disgust - Embarrassment
Idk about Joy, maybe a 5th new one?
What if the unhealthy manesfestation of joy is sometging like addiction? You are very happy with something, but want more of it and you just arnt satisfied? Like think of a serial killer who gets joy from killing and gets realy exited over being wanted. I guess that would be adrenaline or some other word that i think has the word "Hex" in it. So much joy that it becomes a drug.
Nostalgia pairs with joy and is basically just joy in the future realizing that she used to be happier.
My theory is that given the last movie the original emotions will want to give the new emotions a chance but ultimately come to the conclusion that choices made from anxiety and the others are not the best choices Riley could make in hindsight. They might have to take control back to save Riley.
My theory is that until you get the new emotion, you can't really recognize that emotion in others. Riley never went through those new emotions so she couldn't recognize those emotions in her parents. She just attached than to one of the existing ones that she was familiar with.
Essentially, what I'm describing is empathy. It's hard to empathize with someone until you've experienced something similar.
12:49 A counterpart for Joy that needs to be overcome during puberty? Sounds like Lust to me
I hear ya. I don't think Pixar would call them "lust", though. Perhaps Passion?
But we are thinking the same thing.
Lust isn’t really an emotion though
Slow down there, buckaroo. Like how depression and sadness are seperate things, love and lust are also different. You mean "Love" right?
I can imagine Surprise or some form of imagination being a good counterpart for Joy. Surprise would be the most plausible as it was in the original script for the first movie, and joy usually follows surprise, and the reason it’s not in the teaser is cause Surprise! I don’t think imagination Is an actual emotion but there’s something going every time I feel a creative rush as an artist. Also imagination would fall into a joy-like category easily.
The fuschia ninja!
Answer: They both do.
There done.
The way I squealed cuz he mentioned Taylor and Travis 😂
Sameee
I don't know if he covers this idea in the video, but when the at break came I was just too excited not to share my own thoughts. I think that the reason these new emotions weren't represented in hq as of yet even though Riley clearly already felt them, is that thi is the age where she is going to begin understanding these emotions a lot more. In the first movie we can see she was still trying to get a grasp on her first core emotions. It may also have to do with the idea that it's much easier nowadays, in our modern world, to be open to figuring out these feelings, as mental health has never been considered as much as it is now. Also, love the idea of the new emotions living inside Riley's head before and just now moving in, I hope we get to see where each of these emotions was before. I also feel like the 4 new emotions will form together into their own sort of little gang of friends outside of being included with the originals. This I because they're all new and all less understood but also, in a sense, "younger" than the rest of the crew. Just seems right that they would be a little socially separate from the rest. I'm excited to see if this idea is realized in the film.
I assumed that Anxiety might be an emotion for Rilley because she has sever anxiety and will have panic attacks. But we'll see in advance
I think they have learned to manage it very well. Something we all should aspire too
"Could there be a fifth new emotion waiting for us - a counterpart to Joy?"
(cough)
Yeah, remember the very sinister, evil laughter we hear twice in the trailer?
I wonder, I wonder ... 😌
My mini theory is that once you get older the emotions such as Anxiety will form as one with another emotion such as fear and become one leading to fear having control over Anxiety and fear.
this is what fan theories are all about, we know the real reason is because they didn’t plan a sequel and stuff but now we get to figure it out “in universe”
I assumed that everyone has all the same emotions, but sometimes those emotions leave because they're less important????? Either way, I really hope that this movie explains the mysterious plot hole that we have.
The "sequel" emotions were not shown in the parents due to story focus....they could be "working" as auxiliary employees.
OMG Thank you so much for this video! I had the exact same concerns when I saw the teaser the other day. The 'new' emotions are subsets and combinations of the core 5 (something research has shown are the 5 universally recognized emotions).
The adults, and even the animals, didn't have the 'new' ones. Where did they come from, where do they go?
Absorption by and/or temporary teachers for the core 5 is the perfect theory and I think where my brain was trying to go while completely flipping out.
*Note: I'm a trained clinical mental health counsellor and Inside Out is my absolute favorite Pixar movie.
I definitely feel like Riley having felt all these emotions before is going to be part of the point of the movie, I'm sure there is going to be some conflict with these new emotions overlapping with the original 5 because when you think about it, Anxiety and Fear overlap, Ennui and Sadness overlap, Envy and Anger overlap, and Embarrassment and Disgust overlap. So I think that the idea that these emotions, that were already covered by the original 5, are now appearing in new physical forms is meant to represent the conflicting and confusing nature of puberty, that time where it's very difficult to figure things out up in your head. The reason that I feel like these emotions aren't in Riley's parents head is because they've left puberty and things have gone from very disjointed and chaotic up there with overlapping emotions, to more controlled and calm as time has gone on, they still feel these emotions, but they have gone beyond the point in their life where there is that idea of overlapping emotions causing chaos and confusion
*wrote this before hand, J covers something very similar at the end, my bad lol
At the end of the movie after the credits there was a scene where anxiety was lurking around in the dad’s head. So yes they do have anxiety just in a different work station
I get why they only gave us 5 emotions,sure it's hard to have alot of ''main characters'' and due to time restraints but still I feel bad that they had to scrap alot of these guys,hopefully we get to see some of these guys in the second movie,they didn't tell us how many new emotions we're getting,we're only aware of 4 right now right? since it's just a trailer of course they're not going to spoil alot of characters and other stuff
Potential last emotion. love, nostalgia, relief, pride, thrill and delight
What you say about retconning the new emotions is like the issue with Mike's line in Monsters, Inc about Sulley having been jealous of his looks since the fourth grade. When they were making Monsters University, they experimented with a storyline of them having known each other at school before drifting apart and meeting again at uni, but it was too complicated and instead they came up with the explanation that 'since the fourth grade' is simply a figure of speech in the monster world
I think why the parents didn't have Anxiety could also be Pixar bringing back a headquarters concept: The backrooms. When the movie was first being developed, there were way more emotions that were not present in the movie. Such as Pride, Schadenfreude, Hope, Ennui, and possibly more emotions that they were thinking of adding. However, there was too much so there we are, left with the 5 core emotions we have today. I think Inside Out 2, is gonna bring back the idea of the backrooms, where when Riley grows out of adolescence, the mind workers will have finished expanding Riley's mind and part of the expansion: The backrooms for the new emotions. They would be called whenever they were needed or like you said, they have mini-consoles they can use. This could also be a great possibility for at least 22 more emotions to be added (including anxiety, envy, ennui, and embarrassment.) waiting to be called in headquarters every day or they have their own rooms where they can use the mini-consoles.
I think the reason we didn't see the new emotions in the adults' heads in the first movie is because we were seeing things through Reilly's emotional lens. As we grow older, emotions become deeper and more detailed, especially in our perception of them in ourselves and others.
Maybe it’s because we see the movie from Riley’s perspective and she doesn’t have the emotional maturity to understand what these others emotions are. So when puberty hits she start to understand what the other emotions means and it’s not the only core 5. So when we see the parents head it’s through Riley’s perspective still and she doesn’t have the emotional knowledge to see other things.
This aged like milk left out in the Sahara desert
oh and J,there is also a tenth emotion called nostalgia during inside out 2,we see her in a few scenes for a few moments each,but she is still there
I think that maybe there will be a counterpart for Joy as well, or simply that Joy will have to continue to mature as she did when she realized she needed to accept Sadness. When I became a teenager I began to experience a type of joy that was not necessarily cheerful... it was like a quiet excitement for the future, a knowing that my whole life was ahead of me. It wasn't a "jump for joy i'm so happy" kind of feeling, it sometimes felt even a little melancholic, but it wasn't a bad feeling. I still experience that sometimes as an adult when I can slow myself down and stop worrying about the future. I think it's a more mature version of Joy.
Sorry but in a futuer tv spot shows us dads anxiety
lol this didn’t age well
Maybe each of the core 5 will get their own division that the new emotions work under? Embarrassment works under Sadness, Anxiety works under Fear, etc…
The easy answer is
The Emotions that run the Deck are "Core" Emotions while the New Emotions will end up being auxiliary emotions
Note: The original Control center that got Destroyed was a Smaller control board
The other Emotions weren't fully Developed
For Mom and Dad in the first movie, the four core emotions are what Parents keep as their Primary Emotions
I think the new emotions will get absorbed into the main emotions at the end. When they are all similar to one of the main ones….
There was a short film "Riley's Date?" released years ago, and some of the memories in the parents' minds had the colors of the new emotions.
Anxiety is in charge all of the time in my mind I had 3 panic attacks this week and it’s only Tuesday
Puberty means child’s body is changing to adulthood does make sense having 4 new emotions. The new emotions represent the emotional swings that is puberty. Since the parents already experienced puberty these 4 emotions are subconscious
Peer pressure = embarrassment
Feeling uncertain = anxiety/fear
Conflicting thoughts = anxiety
Human sexuality = anxiety
Irritability anxiety, fear anger
In the trailers looks like Riley is hard time with maintaining familiarity from inside out 1 with going into middle school
we all have anxiety tbh
Easiest solution is to visit the inside of the parents’ heads again, where now dwell all the new emotions, and cue a “we’ve been here the whole time” gag.
Ok, I may have missed it in older videos, but that Pixar Theory song is a JAM!
My best theory is why those specific emotions don't exist and inside out one is because Riley's parents are adults and so they probably learned how to manage those emotions as they come. But Riley being young and in her stages of puberty probably hasn't had the ability to recognize those emotions and or come up with a way to control them.
Anxiety also mentions that she is ‘a huge fan’ of Joy in that trailer, indicating she knows of Joy’s work
I was thinking that maybe she has a mental illness (for example anxiety) and that’s where the extra emotions came from since we saw into a lot of other peoples minds and none of them had any emotions outside the original 5
"Pain demands to be felt" - the Fault in Our Stars
Riley doesnt need the emotion at the console to feel the emotion, (think of sadness touching the memories) it only means the the emotion is in control of her
The mom and dad have the anxiety emotion, they come out when they ask her how was camp and she says fine
I love that they have ennui! I've been using that word since I was a teenager!! I just turned 55 earlier this month. I have pictures of my cat that perfectly personify ennui!!!!
Because they came up with the idea of an anxiety character after inside out 1 was released. Saved you 13 minutes of time 👍
I think excitement would be a good counter part to Happiness.
theory: the new emotions like anxiety are criminals of the mind that stage riots every now and then, which is why people feel such things to begin with sporadically, and Joy is gonna have another one of those moments of shutting out the other emotions since she's technically the only positive one, but then Sadness or someone else comes in and is like "maybe this is good for the long run" like in the first movie. So she keeps the original 5 but the others are in jail
I've had anxiety since I was like 8
So the fact that it took that long for her to get it is just astounding
I think each main emotion will eventually be the manager of a whole subset of emotions. For example, anger will be head of the anger department, which will include all sorts of emotions that can be categorised under anger.
I just think they could explain it by saying that adults bury the complex emotions and show a literal sense of them hiding those emotions
Go for it J. We all want it
Now admittedly, I haven't watched the full video yet. But, Riley's Father is shown to have a more hidden anxiety close to the end of Inside Out 2
My theory: Most likely the 4 new emotions don’t stick around forever and will probably die and be forgotten as a person becomes older (honestly that ending could hit harder than Bing Bong’s death if Disney actually focuses for once)
I'm assuming the reasoning is that during puberty, extra emotions come to help with the increased workload and leave after puberty is done.
They especially seem to be emotions that are associated with teenagedom.
I can easily see these emotions as more specific or combination versions of the core emotions, like on an emotion wheel.
I feel like the new emotions would have their own control panel in a separate room and be sort of subsets to the main 5. It would be more similar to how our emotions actually function. Plus, then they could probably keep making sequels and adding new characters
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Anxiety: can I come out of the corner now? 😢
Anger: no anxiety! stay in F ing the corner
Anger: we gotta make it look like parents don’t have anxiety! 😂
I'm hoping it's as simple as the new emotions are just for puberty and they merge with the og 5 as Riley ages because the new ones are basically branches of them
My personal idea or theory in this case is that love will be the new emotion cause at that time is when most people start getting serious crushes and stuff like with that one kid I forgot his name but they went on a date so joy will have a counterpart that is being love
A person learns to work with stress and anxiety, reframing them as opportunity and novelty.
Anxiety shows up with shades and a leather jacket. "My name is Thrill now."
4:27 mood
I haven’t watched this channel in so long. Good to see your still going with your channel
Each of their brain environments in the first movie has a root color, her mom's is orange, Riley's is blue, her dad's is grey (empty) but most of the mixed emotions are red.
The parents don't have those other emotions because the filmmakers had NO clue there'd be a sequel
"oh I slept funny on that, so I guess now I'm injured" phase of life - that's where I'm at, too!
In the first movie the characters inside her head could also feel other emotions so maybe puberty just makes those emotions harder to handle and make individual emotions for them. And then after puberty when the emotions calm down they die and the normal 5 can just represent those emotions fully
Honestly it’s still a little weird that these videos no longer end with “THESE SOCKS ARE AMAZING!!!”
I do wanna know the answer so I'm glad you guys are doing it also I can't wait to see how this fits into the Pixar theory
One emotion that I know kicks around in mind is, Left-Out, I'm sure, Abandonment, is an occupant in some minds too.
Well how about I tell you a fact you said one of the times envy came but also it came when Riley says “I’m envying this dead mouse😑”
Watch as we end up seeing inside the parents' heads and the "extra" emotions are there too and they just ignore the whole question.
The title of this video was literally the first thing I said after watching the trailer. Thanks Carlin brothers!
You guys are the Best! So excited for this one right?🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉