Hats off to hp, they really seem to have made a huge effort to make the prime as user friendly as possible. I love the solve triangle feature. Thanks for the video Martin. ~ Jason
Very nearly six years old - the TI is now up to the Nspire CX II CAS and the HP is up to the Prime G2 (Rev D). Both are about 3x faster than these. The Nspire CX II has the same RAM capacity as the CX (64 MB), while the Prime G2 increased its RAM from 32MB to 256MB, a dramatic increase. A new comparison of these would be interesting.
The HP has a storage mode. If it isn't used for a few days, it goes into low-power standby and lasts for weeks or months. It also uses the same (very inexpensive) battery as an older Samsun phone.
HP stopped trying to compete/ dethrone TI a long time ago i am honestly surprised and happy to see they have a new rpn capable calculator with decent processor and touch screen.
I agree HP does seem to have something interesting in this calculator. I will be doing more research into what it does. I really like that it's screen is slightly larger than the TI-Nspire CX CAS (not by much though), and is also a touch screen. I appreciate HP not creating a calculator display like that of the Casio II FX-CP 400. It's my personal preference to feel buttons under my fingertips while using a calculator, the Casio II FX-CP 400 seems to require using its screen a lot (making that pen device included with it that more important). If I desired an almost full touchscreen device, I'd prefer to use my tablet to pull off calculations.
I was very close to buying this calculator as an upgrade to my 25+ year old HP 48GX, but it doesn't seem the HP of today is the same as the HP of yesteryear. The rechargeable battery caused me some concern as a quality replacement no longer seems available. Then I read of software issues and the premature bricking of some and decided against it. That just left the Casio fx-cg500. I'll have to see how it does in EE work.
@@JoeLinux2000 If you think we *never* went there, guess again. We were there multiple times. Of course, the Flat Earthers like you will always be in denial of The Truth.
I bought this calculator when my old and trusty TI-89 died after 10 years of heavy use and I decided to go for something with a cool LCD screen, like the HP-prime. I decided to go for it and not the TI Nspire CX CAS because the HP had much newer hardware, even tho as a newer model I knew it would have much buggier software at the beginning. Well, I regret choosing it over the Nspire until today and never loved it, I never loved that app based environment and the buggy solve command cannot even solve "x^2 - 2^x=0 ,x" even today, running the latest firmware. what it loves doing most of the time is spitting out empty brackets [[]] instead of usable results, in more of the 1/3 of the times the command is used. The calculator fails so often to give usable results without hanging etc that I lost my trust on it and it ends up more and more laying forgotten in my closet. As a heavy user of the programming feature I was trying for ages to figure out simple things about how to output text and results properly on the screen and I never managed to find out how to have a probram output something like a matrice or a fraction on the screen in a pretty and easily readable textbook form, like even my old TI-89 with its old style dot matrix screen was capable of, but all that seems possible is to throw them out as ugly, one-lined strings, like "Mat1=[1,2,3][4,5,6][7,8,9]" or "F=((q1+q2)/(q3*r))/r^x)" for the users pleasure to read. Now, after I went through the initial period of happiness, then the period of denial and finally the period of frustration I finally realized and admitted to myself that I really must go for another TI if I really want my smile to return to my face again, and after one year of frustration I'm on the market for that Nspire CX CAS...
I do not understand how you can have problems with textbook output of matrices. When I write a program with content “RETURN M1”, where M1 is a matrix, he gives a beautiful textbook output. Also when I write “RETURN [[3,5],[5,6]]” Of course with default home settings. Otherwise go to page 2 of home settings and press Shift Esc to restore them to default. When you want to show a fraction or symbolic formulas you have to write a CAS program and execute it in CAS view. When the name of your program is MYPROG enter MYPROG() When creating the program check the CAS checkbox. He now gives a framework for a CAS program. When you now enter “RETURN 4:5” or “RETURN f=((q1+q2)/(q3*r))/r^x)” the program is complete and he gives beautiful textbook output. Be sure to use lowercase letters. Do not use F instead of f! I already gave a comment on the first part of your answer elsewhere a week ago.
+Jan D Hi and thank you for your answer! I've already tried the return command and I know it's possible to get textbook answers this way, however I could not find a way to have a program output results in an interactive way and return more than one single result upon ending. Instead, it seems the program has to end its execution so it can write the result on the CAS screen. What I'm saying is, this calc is not bad in general and I'm sure it will improve itself and get a firmware which will be just as good as its excellent hardware is, but right now I find it lacks a SERIOUS program I/O terminal. I just wish they would implement one based on the current note editor environment of the calc where the add formula and the other text formatting features would be accessible to use by programs. If such a thing would be added, in my personal view this would be the very moment where the HP Prime would overtake the TI Nspire CAS and leave it behind, even having a non perfect firmware.
I have not much experience in programming with the calc but I also believe that it stops after the “return” command. Nevertheless it can give more than one textbook result, because you can let it output a list, and a list can contain as much elements as you want. When you do not absolutely need textbook output you could let it output to the spreadsheet by first opening the spreadsheet: STARTAPP(“Spreadsheet”); and assigning a list to a spreadsheet column, eg: F:F := L1; When the output contains matrices you can select an element of the spreadsheet and press “show” to see it in textbook format. You have a point that it could be useful to add an “insert formula” possibility to the program editor, like the notes editor has. I myself do not feel this need so much, because when I need more complicated formulas I create one in homeview, CAS or function app and copy them to the program editor. This also has the advantage that they occupy less space and the program keeps more surveyable. Also in RPN mode it is very easy to create complicated formulas with the variables in uppercase when you use the key combination: "Shift ( )" to insert eg X or Y.
When I had it in a statistics class, my classmates TI-84 could solve problems that this couldnt. It would also give me the wrong answer in other stats operations. It really pissed me off and I went back to Casio/TI.
Just wanted to say, I enjoy your channel. I own a HP prime g2 and Ti-89 titanium. I used the Ti-89T in college, - I wish the Ti-89T had Hp Prime's hardware, the prime blows it out of the water, as far as I know, its the fastest handheld calculator in the world. But the Ti-89T is more intuitive to me. * spoiler alert, all can be emulated on a cell phone, my Nord 10n 5g blows them all out of the water, (just a snapdragon 690), even through emulation, but independent calculators are still amazing, I own both. I am working on the total number of genetically distinct possible humans calculation, already figured out how to calculate the factorial of any number, next comes permutation calculations. 3.05×10^9 permutation 4. update the answer is 8.65X10^41 I may have to discover a new branch of probability theory, involving limits.
Your review was just out of this world! So great, in fact, that I personally believe that your mad analysis skills put an unhealthy amount of tech websites/videos to shame. I look forward to watching the rest of your CAM series.
Hi Ron, Thanks for the feedback and the info on the fx-cp400...I did not know about it! I'm certainly not going to do a proper review and comparison with an emulator...so the real thing has just been ordered and will be here in a week or so. So keep an eye open for that ;-) Cheers, Martin.
My hp-prime doesn’t have the function key under Menu in Plot mode but that functionality is available through the Trace submenus. I can however pinch open plots to zoom in. RPN is available in Home Settings>Entry
Comparing what is in the box with the TI CX CAS, I would say TI wins based on videos alone. They had complete books and better packaging. I'm sure that HP provides documentation electronically but I like the books I can hold and dogtail.
VBlogMag You gotta figure out that you are by far the best "youtuber" around so... we must ask you for a tutorial on this and on that.... excuse us :P (and please keep up the good work - btw there should be a way for us to pay for the great job you make for us)
If you have a collection of calculators it would be nice if you can do a series of horizontal slice reviews per function such as complex number, differentiation, integrals etc.
Thanks Austin for your comment. I have an HP67 and am very happy with it, it is now 37 years old and just died on me. I don't really need the HP Prime Graphing Calc. and do not need to look back on anything. I want to buy one, because it is the only RPN calculator that has rechargeable batteries. I do not understand why HP dropped this in favour of expensive short lasting non rechargeables. That was stupid. If you wonder why there is a photo of Rose Plaat, while I am a man, I don't know that either, but the odd thing is that she is one of my granddaughters and I have no idea how her photo got onto this site.
The batteries actually last quite awhile, as far as rechargeable batteries go. I only have to recharge it about once a week overnight. Also, if HP didn't use a lithium ion battery, and stuck with the old batteries, the processor wouldn't be able to be as quick and your battery would drain rapidly due to the display. As for your relatives photo, you might just be signed into her account.
Thank for that review. The last calculator I bought was an HP49 and didn't like the logic of use. Actually it seemed more complex than the HP48GX that I'm currently using. Your review sold me that HP decided to make things simpler and more intuitive. The processor should indeed speed things up dramatically which you demonstrated. I like the ease of operation and easier to find functions when needed. I'm hoping that it does have a good selection of library apps for different scientific applications.
Good review, but you forget to say one of the most important things: How do you swap stack values Y to X in RPN mode. On HP50g you had to use right arrow. On HP35s there is a separate button. I think the most valuable thing is indeed the RPN mode on these calculators.
Where's the manual? My HP-50g came with a nice printed manual, very useful and quite complete. I don't like that plastic cover, this HP deserves a leather case. Thanks for posting, very nice video!
haven't you noticed a little bit of screen flickering while scrolling up/down the touchscreen? My hp prime uses to flicker in the clock/battery side of the screen when i scroll the display. I've also experienced crashes and auto rebooting when i intensively use the touchscreen. I don't know if they are hardware or software (bugs) problems. I'm running the last FW (6030)
Thanks for the great videos comparing calculators, nice detailed and well explained. Just wondering what calculator your self ended up with, or use the most of the ones tested?, this HP Prime does seems to be overall best value, but which one did you pick?
How are your exponents of a smaller size font than the base number ? I have always wanted this. My exponents are the same size as the base number, which of course looks stupid and takes up too much space on the screen.
Hi VBlogMag, where are the follow-up videos on your calc-compare series? BTW: got my Prime today... what a beast! Did you do the latest firmware update already? Now pinching in plot mode is possible (and a breeze) and especially the sketch feature is downright awesome! Cheers.
Hi VBlogMag, Is the HP Prime now worth buying over the TI Nspire CX CAS in your opinion? I don't like the small keyboard on the TI Nspire as it's ridiculous & irrelevant for programs nor do I like the hardware...ie. Rockers. The usage of apps is nested in a very strange way as well........awkward really. Thank you sir, Stefos
Thanks for another well detailed video. Once you've used a calculation on the stack, do the numbers on the stack disapeer? If they do not, how many numbers can be stored on the stack.
Thanks for the reviews on the calcs. They have come in handy. Anyhow, I did some research of my own and found that the old Model HP Prime NW280AA (rev A) is not wirelessly capable like the newer model G8X92AA (rev c). Personally, I prefer rev c over A, simply because it offers just a bit more options including....well....wireless connection. I never did like cables connected to my calcs. I also found out that the only way you can tell which is which is when your looking at the back of the package, to Look for the model number HIDDEN and in small print just above the bar code. Is HP trying to sell off rev a in hopes nobody notices? As big as the package is you would thing they would advertise model numbers like all other brands out there.
+Caleb Gregory IDK if what Greet Delmulle said is true, but they do sell the the G8X92AA model at Best Buy. That's where I bought mine. To be safe, I would just check the HP Product number to make sure that it is in fact G8X92AA.
I have a question. Maybe you cant do this but I want to graph a derivative or interval. When I try to it says invalid object or with the integral, trying to graph an indefinite integral, it wont let me even enter it into the advanced graphing without placing the upper and lower bounds. This is the only calculator that I have tried which will not cooperate. I am trying to decide whether to buy an nspire cx cas or this.
he mentioned using a smartphone for advanced calculations. There is an app on Google Play that is like $4 called Graph89. You can emulate a calculator using the ROM file right from TI website.....but I can't imagine schools allowing you to use your phone in class...well, at least not when i was in school.....
It's still very strict, if you are caught using your phone during a test or exam, you'll receive a 0 on said test/exam or be suspended. At least that's what every school I've gone to has done.
Saverus Ballz For the most part I use the casio fx 115 calculator also. But there are times I used this to save time when i am in crunch time and have a lot of units to convert. i just plug them in and have the calculator convert it with in seconds. This calculator is very powerful and useful in engineering.
How does this stack up against the casio fg cg 20? Some of the features, like the touch screen, are more appealing to me and it comes in at a slightly lower price point than the casio (in the UK). But I am already familiar with the casio layout and I would like to know which one you'd recommend?
I do some later reviews comparing them (CG10) side by side. I do like the ease of use of the Casio. However, the HP is really nice to use with the touch screen and is very fast. If I could have only one it would be the HP.
Good video. I'm using the Hp Prime emulator to test it, one thing i do to see the speed of a calculator is solve the third grade equation: ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0,x (the TI nspire cx cas solves it but is slow) and now im trying with HP Prime, i was surprised when i noticed that it can't solve it! . Now im dissapointed :(
@@haxongd That is not the correct answer. It is -1.6347 on a Prime Rev. D with 2023 firmware using the Solve App. One has to be careful picking the initial guess. Try -3.
Great video, very thorough, and appreciate the 720p HD. But you might do a manual white-balance next time, because the video does have a yellowish cast to it. At 12:24 for example.
The reason HP's calculator division abandoned the engineering market is 'cause Carly Fiorina had 'em revising all their manuals to eliminate masculine references in the early 2000s.
Can anyone explain why sometimes my "x t (theta) n" button gets mapped to the letter 'a' vs the default 'x'. I have to perform a factory reset to get it working correctly again.
Ooo, who needs calculators lol, when smartphones do everything with tiny non-tactile glassy screens and fast-dying batteries? I love expending vast quantities of eye-hand coordination aiming for pretend buttons!
RE: HP Prime Graphing Calculator. In your video the digits of the equation you entered look very clear, however compared to the size of the screen and having estimated the dimensions of the screen the digits on the screen seem too small for easy reading in reality. Could you please comment on that. I am thinking of buying one, however I do not have access to one to look at before I buy so it is important that I find out beforehand. Thanks, George Goldsteen Tasmania, Australia
Having smaller digits is useful when doing multiple calculations and referring back to your previous results. Makes it so that you don't have to scroll as often when looking back at your work.
Rose plaat You can choose between small, medium and large font size in the settings. Home settings page 2. You can see the setting at the top of the screen at 23:25 (ruclips.net/video/2yfYeCGWZrs/видео.html)
So I am an engineer student, and more or less need a calculator with good matrices equations solver, integrals and partial derivates solver. Basically really good and fast CAS. How does it stand against a CX CAS. I am considering HP since it is cheaper.
Try to invert a 3x3 symbolic matrix with the 50g. You will have to wait 30 secs. If you do it with the Prime, you'll have the answer IMMEDIATELY. The prime has a rude force the no other calc has.
Turns out when i try to do this it appears "Warning! Algebraic extension not implemented yet for poly [a,b,c,d]" , and i've tried changing the complex mode and the approx mode, it just can't solve it yet. I hope in the next update they fix this. This calculator has a lot of potential ;)
Ivan Eduardo Veloz Guerrero That and the lack of the RPL programming language seems to be what dissapoints all the HP calculator fans. Me, personally, I'm to young to have touched RPN (it's more of an old school thing, this generation is using "pretty print"). I don't really care what programming language the calculator supports as long as there is a good library of functions, and it seems like there is. Programming is programming. Also, going for the 50g just to use existing programs would have been a bigger hassle to me than not being able to use the existing programs, personally.
The HP prime has completely unlocked functionality because it's targeted at professionals in various STEM fields (rather than targeting students like TI). It's a lot like having a mathematics suite on a portable computer. Unfortunately, that means it's not NEARLY as easy to use as the TI calculators. Another disadvantage is documentation... not just the documentation that comes with the calculator, but also the 3rd party documentation and helps. My TI84 is currently sitting on a "for dummies" book that nicely describes how to use it. The Prime is sorely lacking in this field. For example, I can easily plot the phase plane of a system of differential equations on my TI (using parametric mode and a list of coefficients, and then multiplying the resulting functions). I still don't know how to do that reasonably with the Prime. The software still needs work as well. And updating the firmware is a PITA. Still, I'm happy I got it, and I'm happy I got it now, rather than after my degree.
Falcrist i just got the ti cx cas few days back. to my shock its written on the package that its manufactured in china. howcome i thought it would be from the usa. so about the HP what does it say it was manufactured from.
Falcrist brother thanks for getting back to me this soon. i had to choose between HP and TI and then i went for TI because i thought it would be a better decision. then when it came in at 15h december seeing that its made in china it broke my heart. you see brother not everyone it financially that well to go out and buy whatever they feel like, i had to put a lot of effort to get this TI calculator because i would need this for my university calculus courses. i ordered it of from amazon.co.uk and it took a while to reach me and i was really happy to have it. i dont own any fancy cell phone like i guys of my age so when i looked at the back side of the package and it read made in china it really made me disheartened. now since you saying its the same for your HP and that i shouldnt me much worried about this i am at peace. thanks brother for getting back at me.
The disappointing thing about the Prime is that it doesn't smoothly support RPN. If you're using it solely to create solutions, this isn't too important. But if you want to solve problems on the fly, it's a major drawback. I owned the original HP-35 (1972), and for me, RPN is to professional calculators what through-the-lens viewing is to professional cameras (SLR and view).
As much as I prefer reviews of devices to be from those who at least sound like professionals, a snag with information junkies is, I'm ten minutes into the video and I have not yet heard a single functional fact about it. You wouldn't base your purchase on the weight? No kidding! :-)
Hello, Good video (detailed and concise) The only calculator competing with hp-prime is the casio fx-cp400. Since casio offers the emulator for free; can you make a comparison with it.Plz Thank you, keep it up Ron
Alessandra Gabriela Orozco Nande Click on the Help button, then the soft button “Tree”, then “search”... this way you can find any function on the calculator. The built-in help is really good.
Hats off to hp, they really seem to have made a huge effort to make the prime as user friendly as possible. I love the solve triangle feature. Thanks for the video Martin. ~ Jason
Very nearly six years old - the TI is now up to the Nspire CX II CAS and the HP is up to the Prime G2 (Rev D). Both are about 3x faster than these. The Nspire CX II has the same RAM capacity as the CX (64 MB), while the Prime G2 increased its RAM from 32MB to 256MB, a dramatic increase. A new comparison of these would be interesting.
The HP has a storage mode. If it isn't used for a few days, it goes into low-power standby and lasts for weeks or months. It also uses the same (very inexpensive) battery as an older Samsun phone.
And you can enter the low-power mode directly by (IIRC) holding shift when powering it off.
HP stopped trying to compete/ dethrone TI a long time ago i am honestly surprised and happy to see they have a new rpn capable calculator with decent processor and touch screen.
I agree HP does seem to have something interesting in this calculator. I will be doing more research into what it does. I really like that it's screen is slightly larger than the TI-Nspire CX CAS (not by much though), and is also a touch screen. I appreciate HP not creating a calculator display like that of the Casio II FX-CP 400. It's my personal preference to feel buttons under my fingertips while using a calculator, the Casio II FX-CP 400 seems to require using its screen a lot (making that pen device included with it that more important). If I desired an almost full touchscreen device, I'd prefer to use my tablet to pull off calculations.
TI-Nspire CX CAS
First class video - extremely informative. If only all of the internet was like this...
I was very close to buying this calculator as an upgrade to my 25+ year old HP 48GX, but it doesn't seem the HP of today is the same as the HP of yesteryear. The rechargeable battery caused me some concern as a quality replacement no longer seems available. Then I read of software issues and the premature bricking of some and decided against it. That just left the Casio fx-cg500. I'll have to see how it does in EE work.
The TI calculator stranglehold is why the US is never going back to the Moon.
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TRUE! 😂😂😂
The lack of small fast computers at the time is one of the reasons we never went to the moon.
@@JoeLinux2000 If you think we *never* went there, guess again. We were there multiple times. Of course, the Flat Earthers like you will always be in denial of The Truth.
I bought this calculator when my old and trusty TI-89 died after 10 years of heavy use and I decided to go for something with a cool LCD screen, like the HP-prime. I decided to go for it and not the TI Nspire CX CAS because the HP had much newer hardware, even tho as a newer model I knew it would have much buggier software at the beginning. Well, I regret choosing it over the Nspire until today and never loved it, I never loved that app based environment and the buggy solve command cannot even solve "x^2 - 2^x=0 ,x" even today, running the latest firmware. what it loves doing most of the time is spitting out empty brackets [[]] instead of usable results, in more of the 1/3 of the times the command is used. The calculator fails so often to give usable results without hanging etc that I lost my trust on it and it ends up more and more laying forgotten in my closet.
As a heavy user of the programming feature I was trying for ages to figure out simple things about how to output text and results properly on the screen and I never managed to find out how to have a probram output something like a matrice or a fraction on the screen in a pretty and easily readable textbook form, like even my old TI-89 with its old style dot matrix screen was capable of, but all that seems possible is to throw them out as ugly, one-lined strings, like "Mat1=[1,2,3][4,5,6][7,8,9]" or "F=((q1+q2)/(q3*r))/r^x)" for the users pleasure to read.
Now, after I went through the initial period of happiness, then the period of denial and finally the period of frustration I finally realized and admitted to myself that I really must go for another TI if I really want my smile to return to my face again, and after one year of frustration I'm on the market for that Nspire CX CAS...
I do not understand how you can have problems with textbook output of matrices.
When I write a program with content “RETURN M1”, where M1 is a matrix, he gives a beautiful textbook output.
Also when I write “RETURN [[3,5],[5,6]]”
Of course with default home settings. Otherwise go to page 2 of home settings and press Shift Esc to restore them to default.
When you want to show a fraction or symbolic formulas you have to write a CAS program and execute it in CAS view. When the name of your program is MYPROG enter MYPROG()
When creating the program check the CAS checkbox. He now gives a framework for a CAS program.
When you now enter “RETURN 4:5” or “RETURN f=((q1+q2)/(q3*r))/r^x)” the program is complete and he gives beautiful textbook output.
Be sure to use lowercase letters. Do not use F instead of f!
I already gave a comment on the first part of your answer elsewhere a week ago.
+Jan D Hi and thank you for your answer! I've already tried the return command and I know it's possible to get textbook answers this way, however I could not find a way to have a program output results in an interactive way and return more than one single result upon ending. Instead, it seems the program has to end its execution so it can write the result on the CAS screen.
What I'm saying is, this calc is not bad in general and I'm sure it will improve itself and get a firmware which will be just as good as its excellent hardware is, but right now I find it lacks a SERIOUS program I/O terminal. I just wish they would implement one based on the current note editor environment of the calc where the add formula and the other text formatting features would be accessible to use by programs. If such a thing would be added, in my personal view this would be the very moment where the HP Prime would overtake the TI Nspire CAS and leave it behind, even having a non perfect firmware.
I have not much experience in programming with the calc but I also believe that it stops after the “return” command.
Nevertheless it can give more than one textbook result, because you can let it output a list, and a list can contain as much elements as you want.
When you do not absolutely need textbook output you could let it output to the spreadsheet by first opening the spreadsheet: STARTAPP(“Spreadsheet”); and assigning a list to a spreadsheet column, eg: F:F := L1;
When the output contains matrices you can select an element of the spreadsheet and press “show” to see it in textbook format.
You have a point that it could be useful to add an “insert formula” possibility to the program editor, like the notes editor has.
I myself do not feel this need so much, because when I need more complicated formulas I create one in homeview, CAS or function app and copy them to the program editor.
This also has the advantage that they occupy less space and the program keeps more surveyable.
Also in RPN mode it is very easy to create complicated formulas with the variables in uppercase when you use the key combination: "Shift ( )" to insert eg X or Y.
When I had it in a statistics class, my classmates TI-84 could solve problems that this couldnt. It would also give me the wrong answer in other stats operations. It really pissed me off and I went back to Casio/TI.
Could you give an example of what it can not do and what it does wrong?
Sin duda HP Prime hasta ahora lidera con su velocidad, muchos programadores estan logrando cosas muy prometedoras con ella.
Just wanted to say, I enjoy your channel.
I own a HP prime g2 and Ti-89 titanium.
I used the Ti-89T in college,
- I wish the Ti-89T had Hp Prime's hardware, the prime blows it out of the water, as far as I know, its the fastest handheld calculator in the world.
But the Ti-89T is more intuitive to me.
* spoiler alert, all can be emulated on a cell phone, my Nord 10n 5g blows them all out of the water, (just a snapdragon 690), even through emulation, but independent calculators are still amazing, I own both. I am working on the total number of genetically distinct possible humans calculation, already figured out how to calculate the factorial of any number, next comes permutation calculations.
3.05×10^9 permutation 4.
update the answer is 8.65X10^41
I may have to discover a new branch of probability theory, involving limits.
If HP wants to sell me one or more of these, they will absolutely need to implement classic user RPL as found in the 50G.
I totally agree !!! HP have sold their sold soul !!!!
Your review was just out of this world! So great, in fact, that I personally believe that your mad analysis skills put an unhealthy amount of tech websites/videos to shame. I look forward to watching the rest of your CAM series.
Hi Ron,
Thanks for the feedback and the info on the fx-cp400...I did not know about it! I'm certainly not going to do a proper review and comparison with an emulator...so the real thing has just been ordered and will be here in a week or so. So keep an eye open for that ;-)
Cheers,
Martin.
At 19:35 , you can do a "pinch and zoom" by putting your two fingers over the graph
Good video man. I have a TI N-Spire CX CAS and must say: it's SO much easier to use, more intuitive! Cheers from Brazil
My hp-prime doesn’t have the function key under Menu in Plot mode but that functionality is available through the Trace submenus.
I can however pinch open plots to zoom in.
RPN is available in Home Settings>Entry
HP Prime, Ti nSpire CX CAS... they are great but ... i still love my old trustworthy Ti-92 Plus lol
Yup, I'm certainly initially impressed by what they have produced. Thanks for the post Jason.
Cheers, Martin.
HP Prime, Ti nSpire CX CAS... they are great but da*n... i still love my old trustworthy Ti-92 Plus lol
Deezel Riggs my TI-85
Comparing what is in the box with the TI CX CAS, I would say TI wins based on videos alone. They had complete books and better packaging. I'm sure that HP provides documentation electronically but I like the books I can hold and dogtail.
Great reviews as always. What's the major difference between the Hardware Rev A and C in the HP Primes.
You CAN use pinch on the graphs to zoom. Did they add this later?
Loove your videos! :D Just ordered a HP Prime. I would love to see a review/ tutorial on it. Keep up the good work!!
Thanks for your post...I will do the tutorials as soon as time allows. Cheers, Martin.
VBlogMag You gotta figure out that you are by far the best "youtuber" around so... we must ask you for a tutorial on this and on that.... excuse us :P (and please keep up the good work - btw there should be a way for us to pay for the great job you make for us)
VBlogMag I am in Ap statistics in high school do you think this calculator will help or do you recommend another calculator
If you have a collection of calculators it would be nice if you can do a series of horizontal slice reviews per function such as complex number, differentiation, integrals etc.
HP Prime, Ti nSpire CX CAS... they are great but damn... i still love my old trustworthy Ti-92 Plus loo
Thanks Austin for your comment. I have an HP67 and am very happy with it, it is now 37 years old and just died on me. I don't really need the HP Prime Graphing Calc. and do not need to look back on anything. I want to buy one, because it is the only RPN calculator that has rechargeable batteries. I do not understand why HP dropped this in favour of expensive short lasting non rechargeables. That was stupid.
If you wonder why there is a photo of Rose Plaat, while I am a man, I don't know that either, but the odd thing is that she is one of my granddaughters and I have no idea how her photo got onto this site.
The batteries actually last quite awhile, as far as rechargeable batteries go. I only have to recharge it about once a week overnight.
Also, if HP didn't use a lithium ion battery, and stuck with the old batteries, the processor wouldn't be able to be as quick and your battery would drain rapidly due to the display.
As for your relatives photo, you might just be signed into her account.
Thank for that review. The last calculator I bought was an HP49 and didn't like the logic of use. Actually it seemed more complex than the HP48GX that I'm currently using. Your review sold me that HP decided to make things simpler and more intuitive. The processor should indeed speed things up dramatically which you demonstrated. I like the ease of operation and easier to find functions when needed. I'm hoping that it does have a good selection of library apps for different scientific applications.
Nice video! Would you, please, do some videos about programming this calculator?
Thanks!
I wish I had this in 1988 but then I had a HP27s and back in 1976 in computer science had a slide ruler. Wow, these kids are spoiled.
i had to do the bisection method by hand, but now there is and apk (only cost 20$) for this calculator :)
A slide ruler is fancy wow....I used ibm 380 to solve my problems with fortran, and Watbol, etc
Good review, but you forget to say one of the most important things: How do you swap stack values Y to X in RPN mode. On HP50g you had to use right arrow. On HP35s there is a separate button. I think the most valuable thing is indeed the RPN mode on these calculators.
HP Prime has Advanced a.k.a 128 Level RPN.
In RPN mode the white comma key swaps X and Y.
Where's the manual? My HP-50g came with a nice printed manual, very useful and quite complete. I don't like that plastic cover, this HP deserves a leather case. Thanks for posting, very nice video!
haven't you noticed a little bit of screen flickering while scrolling up/down the touchscreen? My hp prime uses to flicker in the clock/battery side of the screen when i scroll the display. I've also experienced crashes and auto rebooting when i intensively use the touchscreen. I don't know if they are hardware or software (bugs) problems. I'm running the last FW (6030)
PLEASE MAKE MORE GRAPHING CALCULATOR VIDEOOOOOOOOOSSS
Yup...but based in the US now. Thanks for the feedback.
Is there a direct way to calculate F, t-student, chi-square probabilities?
Thanks for the great videos comparing calculators, nice detailed and well explained.
Just wondering what calculator your self ended up with, or use the most of the ones tested?, this HP Prime does seems to be overall best value, but which one did you pick?
Man, it's sooooooo beautiful!
How are your exponents of a smaller size font than the base number ? I have always wanted this.
My exponents are the same size as the base number, which of course looks stupid and takes up too much space on the screen.
Hi VBlogMag, where are the follow-up videos on your calc-compare series?
BTW: got my Prime today... what a beast!
Did you do the latest firmware update already?
Now pinching in plot mode is possible (and a breeze) and especially the sketch feature is downright awesome!
Cheers.
Hi VBlogMag,
Is the HP Prime now worth buying over the TI Nspire CX CAS in your opinion? I don't like the small keyboard on the TI Nspire as it's ridiculous &
irrelevant for programs nor do I like the hardware...ie. Rockers. The usage of apps is nested in a very strange way as well........awkward really.
Thank you sir,
Stefos
Thanks for another well detailed video.
Once you've used a calculation on the stack, do the numbers on the stack disapeer?
If they do not, how many numbers can be stored on the stack.
Thanks for the reviews on the calcs. They have come in handy. Anyhow, I did some research of my own and found that the old Model HP Prime NW280AA (rev A) is not wirelessly capable like the newer model G8X92AA (rev c). Personally, I prefer rev c over A, simply because it offers just a bit more options including....well....wireless connection. I never did like cables connected to my calcs. I also found out that the only way you can tell which is which is when your looking at the back of the package, to Look for the model number HIDDEN and in small print just above the bar code. Is HP trying to sell off rev a in hopes nobody notices? As big as the package is you would thing they would advertise model numbers like all other brands out there.
Really impressive!
What did you press in order to bring up the screen with the fraction, differentiation, and integral formats? (Around 13:10)
Thanks for the post and bringing this to my attention.
The features for programing are available or the Prime is a calculator only?
Servus Souza da Silva You can write programs using the HPPL (HP Prime Programming Language) which is similar to Pascal.
I still believe that Ti-Nspire CX CAS is the best for school
How do you update the frimware.. I haven't found any links from HP yet.
What's that small plastic box attached to the cable?
Hello Martin,
Have you found a setting to adjust the screen dim timeout. Right now the screen dims to fast.
Thank you.
Ron
The latest model (G8X92AA) DOES have pinch to zoom. Unfortunately you have to shop around a little for it.
Caleb Gregory It's a firmware thing.
Did you get the latest? Do you like the sketch feature?
+Caleb Gregory IDK if what Greet Delmulle said is true, but they do sell the the G8X92AA model at Best Buy. That's where I bought mine. To be safe, I would just check the HP Product number to make sure that it is in fact G8X92AA.
I have a question. Maybe you cant do this but I want to graph a derivative or interval. When I try to it says invalid object or with the integral, trying to graph an indefinite integral, it wont let me even enter it into the advanced graphing without placing the upper and lower bounds. This is the only calculator that I have tried which will not cooperate. I am trying to decide whether to buy an nspire cx cas or this.
hi this amazing calculator works with the vectors?
i mean vecA X vecB or vecA * vecB?
How does functionality compare to say the HP-48SX or GX? Does it have the built-in Equation Library etc.?
he mentioned using a smartphone for advanced calculations. There is an app on Google Play that is like $4 called Graph89. You can emulate a calculator using the ROM file right from TI website.....but I can't imagine schools allowing you to use your phone in class...well, at least not when i was in school.....
It's still very strict, if you are caught using your phone during a test or exam, you'll receive a 0 on said test/exam or be suspended. At least that's what every school I've gone to has done.
Can you make algorithms on the Prime?
HP should pay you for selling me a Prime... thanks for the video!
I just bought one also...lol it came in handy in my Fluid Mechanics course....
I agree!
lisro21 Im taking fluid Me and I only use scientific calc/ non graphical.
Saverus Ballz For the most part I use the casio fx 115 calculator also. But there are times I used this to save time when i am in crunch time and have a lot of units to convert. i just plug them in and have the calculator convert it with in seconds. This calculator is very powerful and useful in engineering.
Is there a rpn mod on this calculator?
YES.
Great video. Thank you.
How does this stack up against the casio fg cg 20? Some of the features, like the touch screen, are more appealing to me and it comes in at a slightly lower price point than the casio (in the UK). But I am already familiar with the casio layout and I would like to know which one you'd recommend?
I do some later reviews comparing them (CG10) side by side. I do like the ease of use of the Casio. However, the HP is really nice to use with the touch screen and is very fast. If I could have only one it would be the HP.
How can i get the calculator to output π/4 instead of 0.785398 when doing arctan(1)?
Good video. I'm using the Hp Prime emulator to test it, one thing i do to see the speed of a calculator is solve the third grade equation: ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0,x (the TI nspire cx cas solves it but is slow) and now im trying with HP Prime, i was surprised when i noticed that it can't solve it! . Now im dissapointed :(
I tried it on emulator with 4X^3+8X^2+3X+1=0, it works ! and gave me answer -0.225 :)
ALGEBRA FX 2.0 Plus and TI-nspire CX CAS say -1.6347
@@haxongd That is not the correct answer. It is -1.6347 on a Prime Rev. D with 2023 firmware using the Solve App. One has to be careful picking the initial guess. Try -3.
Great video, very thorough, and appreciate the 720p HD.
But you might do a manual white-balance next time, because the video does have a yellowish cast to it. At 12:24 for example.
battery life vs the Ti what ones has better battery life
The reason HP's calculator division abandoned the engineering market is 'cause Carly Fiorina had 'em revising all their manuals to eliminate masculine references in the early 2000s.
Really!???
I love RPN and hate that hp prime only has it on home mode and only CAS has exact mode, it gives Sin(pi) = -2.0x10^-13 instead of 0
It gives a result of 0.054 in floating mode which probably by me works best.
Btw HP Prime is allowed for SAT, IB and such, except the PCMT (?
Does it work with them ( Vectors ) now?
can you choose if you want all your answers in fractions or decimals? like the tin spire?
Home --> yields decimal equivalents
CAS --> yields fraction results. Shift-Enter will yield the decimal approximation in the CAS mode
hi . can you insert images on this calculator ? could you upload a video with details about "how to insert images on a graph calculator " ??
Hi vblogmag, what kind of the hardware version of your calculator? Is it A, C, or D version?
This video is very old, so he likely has the earliest version (identifiable by the light blue printing on the keys; newer versions use darker blue).
Is HP Prime graphing calculator the newest calculator , newer than all other ones? or is there another newer than HP Prime?
HP prime is the newest that I'm aware of. Certainly the newest for HP, TI, and Casio.
Good video, thanks. Do I detect a SA accent there?
Why they always arrive in this vacuum-type package killing every good unboxing experience?
Anti tampering while it hasn't been bought as a defense against thieves.
Can anyone explain why sometimes my "x t (theta) n" button gets mapped to the letter 'a' vs the default 'x'. I have to perform a factory reset to get it working correctly again.
So is this not made for Financial Calculator ?
Ooo, who needs calculators lol, when smartphones do everything with tiny non-tactile glassy screens and fast-dying batteries? I love expending vast quantities of eye-hand coordination aiming for pretend buttons!
How much is the price of HP now
RE: HP Prime Graphing Calculator.
In your video the digits of the equation you entered look very clear, however compared to the size of the screen and having estimated the dimensions of the screen the digits on the screen seem too small for easy reading in reality. Could you please comment on that. I am thinking of buying one, however I do not have access to one to look at before I buy so it is important that I find out beforehand.
Thanks,
George Goldsteen
Tasmania, Australia
Having smaller digits is useful when doing multiple calculations and referring back to your previous results. Makes it so that you don't have to scroll as often when looking back at your work.
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Rose plaat You can choose between small, medium and large font size in the settings. Home settings page 2. You can see the setting at the top of the screen at 23:25 (ruclips.net/video/2yfYeCGWZrs/видео.html)
How do you put it in the basic calculation mode?
There's a little button with the Home icon on the left.
Also are they ever going to add 3D graphing out of box?
If you have that calculator you can download an app which creates 3D graphs
True by why should you have to resort to a third party app when competitors have it built in?
A 3D app is there now.
So I am an engineer student, and more or less need a calculator with good matrices equations solver, integrals and partial derivates solver. Basically really good and fast CAS. How does it stand against a CX CAS. I am considering HP since it is cheaper.
+rocktolovetolive Get 50g, a gem.
Try to invert a 3x3 symbolic matrix with the 50g. You will have to wait 30 secs. If you do it with the Prime, you'll have the answer IMMEDIATELY. The prime has a rude force the no other calc has.
Turns out when i try to do this it appears "Warning! Algebraic extension not implemented yet for poly [a,b,c,d]" , and i've tried changing the complex mode and the approx mode, it just can't solve it yet. I hope in the next update they fix this. This calculator has a lot of potential ;)
Does it have ALL of the functions of the
HP 48?
Not quite, I think. One thing I do know is that RPN is not available in CAS mode. It's mentioned all over the manual.
Ivan Eduardo Veloz Guerrero That and the lack of the RPL programming language seems to be what dissapoints all the HP calculator fans. Me, personally, I'm to young to have touched RPN (it's more of an old school thing, this generation is using "pretty print"). I don't really care what programming language the calculator supports as long as there is a good library of functions, and it seems like there is. Programming is programming. Also, going for the 50g just to use existing programs would have been a bigger hassle to me than not being able to use the existing programs, personally.
So...will it run Megaman?
#FirstWorldProblem
Rubikorigami Lol ikr
probably
Rubikorigami Last time I checked we're not on Mercury.
I'm kinda leaning towards this HP Prime. Anybody know some disadvantages it has to the TI Nspire not mentioned in the video?
The HP prime has completely unlocked functionality because it's targeted at professionals in various STEM fields (rather than targeting students like TI). It's a lot like having a mathematics suite on a portable computer. Unfortunately, that means it's not NEARLY as easy to use as the TI calculators.
Another disadvantage is documentation... not just the documentation that comes with the calculator, but also the 3rd party documentation and helps. My TI84 is currently sitting on a "for dummies" book that nicely describes how to use it. The Prime is sorely lacking in this field.
For example, I can easily plot the phase plane of a system of differential equations on my TI (using parametric mode and a list of coefficients, and then multiplying the resulting functions). I still don't know how to do that reasonably with the Prime.
The software still needs work as well. And updating the firmware is a PITA.
Still, I'm happy I got it, and I'm happy I got it now, rather than after my degree.
Falcrist i just got the ti cx cas few days back. to my shock its written on the package that its manufactured in china. howcome i thought it would be from the usa. so about the HP what does it say it was manufactured from.
vendalsavage It has "made in China" embossed on the back of the unit itself. I'm not sure it's worth caring about this.
Falcrist brother thanks for getting back to me this soon. i had to choose between HP and TI and then i went for TI because i thought it would be a better decision. then when it came in at 15h december seeing that its made in china it broke my heart. you see brother not everyone it financially that well to go out and buy whatever they feel like, i had to put a lot of effort to get this TI calculator because i would need this for my university calculus courses. i ordered it of from amazon.co.uk and it took a while to reach me and i was really happy to have it. i dont own any fancy cell phone like i guys of my age so when i looked at the back side of the package and it read made in china it really made me disheartened. now since you saying its the same for your HP and that i shouldnt me much worried about this i am at peace. thanks brother for getting back at me.
vendalsavage dude everythings made in China
Make a 10 years later review of your calculator
I hope to cover vectors in the future with all the graphing calculators to see how well they do. The Prime will be included.
The disappointing thing about the Prime is that it doesn't smoothly support RPN. If you're using it solely to create solutions, this isn't too important. But if you want to solve problems on the fly, it's a major drawback. I owned the original HP-35 (1972), and for me, RPN is to professional calculators what through-the-lens viewing is to professional cameras (SLR and view).
As much as I prefer reviews of devices to be from those who at least sound like professionals, a snag with information junkies is, I'm ten minutes into the video and I have not yet heard a single functional fact about it. You wouldn't base your purchase on the weight? No kidding! :-)
Bought it and sold it 2 months later. If it's RPN you're after, this is NOT the calculator you want.
Hello, Good video (detailed and concise)
The only calculator competing with hp-prime is the casio fx-cp400.
Since casio offers the emulator for free; can you make a comparison with it.Plz
Thank you, keep it up
Ron
how can i programm with if while and so
Alessandra Gabriela Orozco Nande Click on the Help button, then the soft button “Tree”, then “search”... this way you can find any function on the calculator. The built-in help is really good.
Thank you for this video. ;-)
$130 is tough on the student budget, unfortunately. Should start saving, or I might have to wait for Christmas.
Here in Brazil, the HP 50g, cost R$ 300,00. It's the same in U.S. to pay US$ 300,00. The HP Prime costs near 700,00.
***** Can't you ask someone who is going to visit the US to bring you one and then pay them?
In 1971 I had a slide rule.
Obviously.
It appears I'm wrong. I'm going to give the Prime a second look.
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