This is a real narrative. I filled for divorce, and my own family asked me what I did. Lol, why the fu#k I had to do something!? I filed for divorce, Goofy!
Can't be a FUN FACT if it's not a FACT. "Ish" actually means Man. "Esh" means Fire. This guy named Ish is an acronym for I Sell Houses. Sorry, I don't like the spread of misinformation.
Sad to see men abandoning each other. Ice came to Jada's defense before Ish could finish his commentary. The full on "I think he..." instead of maybe or we don't know if he, shows his bias.
You mean both, right? Are we going to act like both of these men didn't start with "I think..." Ish thinks she is doing it for money, Ice thinks she's mad at him. Ish finished his statement. Ice did not defend her. Just the fact that you think there is a difference between "I think", "Maybe" & "We don't know if he". Tells a lot. All are OPINIONS. It's not even a wild perspective. Her embarrassing him for change is wild af. Him letting her do it for change is even wilder. Ish is in his feelings.
Yea but I’m our normal minds we would’ve left jada years ago. He’s just imagining a logical and real reason why will smith would willingly continue to be embarrassed
Wrong. Ish is taking it personal because his ex-girl/business partner took most of the properties they owned together. She outsmarted him because he's a sucka for love. Yelling at Joe like a toddler for smoking hookah with his ex of 5 years😅😅😅😅
So we gonna look past all the hoeing will has done over the past 30 years? We gonna ignore his relationship with his chef? Dwayne martin? Margot? Eva?.... gtfoh. Alexa play WHEN A WOMANS FED UP
But they’re both doing the same exact thing which is give their opinions and assumptions on a situation they don’t know about. Ice is just saying that it could be a reason behind all of this and I agree. It very well could be…we don’t know 😂
So why has he been tolerating it for years. Without a peep. All so she can get a lil change at his expense??? Make it make sense. Getting revenge on your partner is f'd up. Her wrong is not washed away because he f'd up too. It's not hard to understand. Ice literally telling you how petty women act. And ish is in his feelings. He can make up money as the issue but Ice cant make up a past f'up. LMAO
To your first point, he’s been tolerating for year for the exact reason some women tolerate their man cheating for years, you love a person and expect them to change for the betterment of y’all relationship fam. Everybody has a breaking point. Women do foul shit too it’s not always the man fault. That’s all ish was saying
@@Pop-fo7nc Betterment, sure LMAO. No one said women don't do foul shit. The discussion is literally about a woman doing foul shit, so ish saying all of that is moot. This is the same man who blames her for Will slapping Chris. But another man can't opine that she is doing this to get revenge. Ish wants a man vs woman argument. When the convo is about speculating why she is embarrassing him like that.
Man and that’s where it’s bullshit that Man been tolerating bullshit for years… Stop stop that funny bullshit Red pill narrative blame women to bullshit oh God its so corny
I hate when folks have an opinion and said person try to disregard another’s opinion, as if it’s not equally valid... as long as the response is logical, let’s have a discussion/dialogue. Don’t throw my opinion out the window, as if your opinion is facts. We’re both just giving our points of view.
Sounds like Ish just doesn't like when women's actions can always be blamed on men. When a man cheats, he's not shit. Regardless of what his girlfriend/wife was or wasn't doing. When a woman cheats, it's almost always somehow the man's fault. Regardless of what he was/wasn't doing.
He's been making a fool out of her as well. They claim to not be really be married , just on paper. He's not a victim. But ish is just sensitive, so he's going to jump
They’re both right I’m 36 I’ve been hearing about their open marriage since I was school and it was about Will getting busy not Jada. Unfortunately her time came at the height of socials but people love to pretend like he was smashing woman from Wolf of Wall Street.
Ish be on some Ish. I agree with him. Nobody wants to put it on both gendets. it's not always one or the other. It's both parties that be fckn up. Period! We are equal when it comes to F up's
I'm with ISH.. Ice trying to justify by saying there is a reason for her to do this.. With no proof at all. Just because? why? And He did blame him.. Then he says I didn't blame him.. His words "I think he did something in the past".. Blaming him.. 🤔
That's clown stuff ice. When he got called out for it, he goes from "I think he messed up" to "im saying he coulda did something". Pandering clown stuff
Here's where we all lose: sometimes we are so lost in our owe bias that someone who presents the other side constantly looks like bias in the other direction (which may or may not be true). Take Ish's point for reference; We have to admit that the general lean of the podcast is men centric. Meaning that the most powerful voices are constantly pointing out id things they believe that women are doing. Mostly this is from their experience, which creates an mindset that extracts that experience into a worldview for most women. When that worldview is faced with another possibility it looks at it as biased (or as the comments would say, simping), while not recognizing its own inherent bias. The same is true when Melyssa finally breaks through and expresses her frustration. Though she makes strong points sometimes she falls victim to her own ideology/experiences to the point of blindness when it comes to interpersonal relationships with men/women. So.... Ice should continue to say what he feels, and Ish should continue to say what he feels so that we can see that it is all what they feel from experience which grants them perspective.... ..but we should never mistake perspective as truth. Never What we can do is extract insight from differing perspectives in order to sharpen or own views.
@@Napkin2dhe always cape-ing for women. You could tell he really wasn’t outside with the men. He was in the house with the women. He thinks just like them.
Joes “uh oh” was funny as shit
This is a real narrative. I filled for divorce, and my own family asked me what I did. Lol, why the fu#k I had to do something!? I filed for divorce, Goofy!
Yup
Correct.
Leave her before she leave you 💯... Because you f'd up 😂 nah but fr that's messed up
lol it’s social programming .. everybody is suppose to believe the woman is always the victim when we all know that’s not the truth.
I feel same way like wtf y it gotta be me I'm victim
Ish is the dude that messes up 😂😂😂😂😂
Ice definitely do that a lot
I've counted 9 times on like 5 different episodes too. He gotta chill.
Ice's always 'Captain Caper'
Pandering like most people do women the most evil mfs but get no hate
Somebody gotta offer some perspective.
Not when it always put men in the bad light. @@sonyap8253
Joe is like oohhh ohhh ohhh😅
Joe said “uh oh” when they start 😂
He gave another perspective period
FUN FACT: Ish means Fire… so symbolically it’s Fire and Ice arguing…
Solid analysis.
Can't be a FUN FACT if it's not a FACT. "Ish" actually means Man. "Esh" means Fire. This guy named Ish is an acronym for I Sell Houses. Sorry, I don't like the spread of misinformation.
@@Queen_Latisha I stand corrected. Thank you for teaching me something.
@@Queen_Latishayou made the first responder Polo look dumb af for just believing w.o research
@@HandMeDeals I didn't make anyone look dumb. Just sharing 🤷🏾♀️
Sad to see men abandoning each other. Ice came to Jada's defense before Ish could finish his commentary. The full on "I think he..." instead of maybe or we don't know if he, shows his bias.
You mean both, right? Are we going to act like both of these men didn't start with "I think..." Ish thinks she is doing it for money, Ice thinks she's mad at him. Ish finished his statement. Ice did not defend her. Just the fact that you think there is a difference between "I think", "Maybe" & "We don't know if he". Tells a lot. All are OPINIONS.
It's not even a wild perspective. Her embarrassing him for change is wild af. Him letting her do it for change is even wilder. Ish is in his feelings.
I agree, he gotta stop doin it... Ice gotta chill
I'm with Ish here. Stop making up a reason to always blame Men. Jada done enough, hold her accountable. A "fuck up" doesn't excuse the behavior 😂
He wrote a whole book saying how much he used to cheat on her, and how much of an a****** he was. But nigkas don't read, so y'all attack her
Word up me too
U only see what shes doing and judge it more. Yet he’s not left. Mind y’all tax bracket. 🤡
Yea but I’m our normal minds we would’ve left jada years ago. He’s just imagining a logical and real reason why will smith would willingly continue to be embarrassed
@@BiggumshawtyThey wouldn't be in that tax bracket if it wasn't for the public! Keep it in house! Like white folks!
Will did something 😂
Ice gets heated and a little petty with it
Ice on that Bulls#!+ on this one.
Simp logic at its finest😂
REAL LIFE TALK. YOU HEAR IT TOO HUH??
Acknowledging the possibility of two solutions in being pessimistic or contrarian, are two different things
Ice is a panderer. Ish be tellin it like it is.
Big facts 💯
Pandering 101
Stop blaming the dude all the time
Women be out here fuvking up too
Wrong. Ish is taking it personal because his ex-girl/business partner took most of the properties they owned together. She outsmarted him because he's a sucka for love. Yelling at Joe like a toddler for smoking hookah with his ex of 5 years😅😅😅😅
@@dlkc2000
. . .wtf are you talking about?
Ish be taking it personal cause he’s one of those dudes ice be talking about
Ice a.k.a Pander Bear lol
Ice can’t say you don’t know but then say Will fucked up
Ish is becoming my favorite on this podcast
Ice always do that
For ones, I'm with Ish. Jada is a sociopath. And Will is a masochist. 😂
You didn't make a point
Just looked up what masochist is since this was the 1st time me ever jewring this word and geez the definition summed up will smith . Good analysis
For once*
Im with him cuz ice lied lol he said I think then said “he could’ve”
So we gonna look past all the hoeing will has done over the past 30 years? We gonna ignore his relationship with his chef? Dwayne martin? Margot? Eva?.... gtfoh. Alexa play WHEN A WOMANS FED UP
Jada is the toxic one in this situation and people can’t handle it
It's Will & Jada's biz - everybody fallback!!
Ish is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!
But they’re both doing the same exact thing which is give their opinions and assumptions on a situation they don’t know about. Ice is just saying that it could be a reason behind all of this and I agree. It very well could be…we don’t know 😂
Haha ya simpin aint easy ice
I’m with ish man. Ice tripping man, men don’t tolerate disrespect either. Especially when they taking care of a women. It’s not always the Guys fault
So why has he been tolerating it for years. Without a peep. All so she can get a lil change at his expense??? Make it make sense.
Getting revenge on your partner is f'd up. Her wrong is not washed away because he f'd up too. It's not hard to understand. Ice literally telling you how petty women act. And ish is in his feelings. He can make up money as the issue but Ice cant make up a past f'up. LMAO
To your first point, he’s been tolerating for year for the exact reason some women tolerate their man cheating for years, you love a person and expect them to change for the betterment of y’all relationship fam. Everybody has a breaking point. Women do foul shit too it’s not always the man fault. That’s all ish was saying
@@Pop-fo7nc Betterment, sure LMAO. No one said women don't do foul shit. The discussion is literally about a woman doing foul shit, so ish saying all of that is moot. This is the same man who blames her for Will slapping Chris. But another man can't opine that she is doing this to get revenge. Ish wants a man vs woman argument. When the convo is about speculating why she is embarrassing him like that.
Man and that’s where it’s bullshit that Man been tolerating bullshit for years… Stop stop that funny bullshit Red pill narrative blame women to bullshit oh God its so corny
Blame Me Movement 😂😂😂
I agree with ish
Happened again in yesterday’s episode (11/2). I think they’re getting sick of Ice too 🤣
I think Ice was tiring of Joe painting a false narrative on him this year so Ice makes his opinions clear, even if its annoying
Ice is a Simpson
He forgot what he said within 10 seconds lol
Ice is wrong a lot.
ish with the bars
Ice is a panderer. Simple.
I hate when folks have an opinion and said person try to disregard another’s opinion, as if it’s not equally valid... as long as the response is logical, let’s have a discussion/dialogue. Don’t throw my opinion out the window, as if your opinion is facts. We’re both just giving our points of view.
Yeah Ice always blaming men, it’s getting creepy
Dude can't see he weak in his thoughts like will can't
I hear women do this... Alot. "well he MUST'VE did something" . Never a man tho. 😂
He's not lying
You can’t beat a good ice and ish argument
You can tell ice is controlled by his wife
Ice on the DL really all of em FR
Sounds like Ish just doesn't like when women's actions can always be blamed on men.
When a man cheats, he's not shit. Regardless of what his girlfriend/wife was or wasn't doing.
When a woman cheats, it's almost always somehow the man's fault. Regardless of what he was/wasn't doing.
Cause men and women cheat entirely differently. Our brains and emotions are wired differently. A woman is not gonna cheat for no reason. A man is.
A Corey get that oven ready
I see whyvthey clown ice all the time.
Shes said almost everything but what will did...
Will said he did sumn back in the day
I agree wit Ish. We have enough people blaming us, we can't start kicking our own backs in lol
Both groups do shit but imma but it does seem like men do it more or it’s just publicized more.. u should never take someone back that’s done u dirty
Ish gotta chill
Ice is not right because she has always before even marriage she's always embarrassed Will Smith .
Publicly
He's been making a fool out of her as well. They claim to not be really be married , just on paper. He's not a victim. But ish is just sensitive, so he's going to jump
@@NursePN09how's he been making a fool out of her?
Ice give me major simp vibes 😂
Ish literally has a problem with other’s opinions just cus 😂😂😂😂😂
I'm with Ish. Women f up too!
Once someone says, I think/I feel... Is giving projection of personal experiences.
They both said I think
They’re both right I’m 36 I’ve been hearing about their open marriage since I was school and it was about Will getting busy not Jada. Unfortunately her time came at the height of socials but people love to pretend like he was smashing woman from Wolf of Wall Street.
Look at Ice and then ask yourself why does he always play devils advocate for the women.
Look at Ish and ask yourself why he feels so sensitive about Ice having a different opinion
Ish be on some Ish. I agree with him. Nobody wants to put it on both gendets. it's not always one or the other. It's both parties that be fckn up. Period! We are equal when it comes to F up's
He was raised by a single mother, he sees no wrong in women because his mom raised him as a son husband.
Not a perspective if u making up the situation lol
I'm with ISH.. Ice trying to justify by saying there is a reason for her to do this.. With no proof at all. Just because? why? And He did blame him.. Then he says I didn't blame him.. His words "I think he did something in the past".. Blaming him.. 🤔
I’m wit ish on this
I agree with ish.
I can’t stand men like ice smh
That's clown stuff ice. When he got called out for it, he goes from "I think he messed up" to "im saying he coulda did something". Pandering clown stuff
MEN BASHING MEN IS A BAD LOOK. TEAM ISH.
ICE IS A CLOWN BRO
Here's where we all lose: sometimes we are so lost in our owe bias that someone who presents the other side constantly looks like bias in the other direction (which may or may not be true).
Take Ish's point for reference;
We have to admit that the general lean of the podcast is men centric. Meaning that the most powerful voices are constantly pointing out id things they believe that women are doing. Mostly this is from their experience, which creates an mindset that extracts that experience into a worldview for most women.
When that worldview is faced with another possibility it looks at it as biased (or as the comments would say, simping), while not recognizing its own inherent bias.
The same is true when Melyssa finally breaks through and expresses her frustration. Though she makes strong points sometimes she falls victim to her own ideology/experiences to the point of blindness when it comes to interpersonal relationships with men/women.
So....
Ice should continue to say what he feels, and Ish should continue to say what he feels so that we can see that it is all what they feel from experience which grants them perspective....
..but we should never mistake perspective as truth. Never
What we can do is extract insight from differing perspectives in order to sharpen or own views.
I'm with ish on this one.
Ice honestly is less of a man. He agrees with everything joe says and seeing him side with jada is not crazy at all
I missed this episode because Ish smoked Ice on this one fa sho
Ish right
Ice be podding like his shorty watch every minute of it lmao cut the corny shit gang
Ice Always be Cappin for the Females. Always. Simp Ish Ice!
ICE IS RIGHT THO & ISH JUST TAKIN IT PERSONAL
Ice making up stuff
Ice is able to think like this because he is not tethered to all men like Ish.
maybe ice fcked up before so he blamed himself 😂 i know i did
i think they both right in this situation but i am more on ish's side but they both could equally be right
I ate triggas like Ice, always blaming the guy....Ish is the realest on the show!!
Ice a succa lol
Ish the realist 💯🫡
Ish fan here
the speculation is bullshit stick to what we do know YALL GON IMAGINE A SCENARIO WHERE WILL DESERVES THIS SMH 🤦🏿♂️
Ish🫡💯
Ice be doing that shit all the time.
For once I'm with Ish. Ice is always toe sucking.
Im with Ish
Ice I right. They both right
He ain't lying tho, that's ices go to
Ice always saving the woman
Ice is going to… “today” “ I seen this before, it’s a rollout and leeme ask you a question us to death
Ish too emotional. Y’all can’t be this slow and not understand what Ice is saying.
Yet you totally missed what Ish was saying? Ice was copping a lot of pleas for women's bad behavior
@@Napkin2dhe always cape-ing for women. You could tell he really wasn’t outside with the men. He was in the house with the women. He thinks just like them.
2 things can be true.
Ice been tryna win the simp olympics for a hot minute now. Wasteman
Who are they talking about?
Ice always been lame
Ice has SIMPleton logic