I'll Pay $20k For This Harley Killer - Buell Super Cruiser...
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Here's a bike I could actually see myself paying $20,000 for. Buell teamed up with Roland Sands Designs for this new Buell Super Cruiser. The release isn't set for a few more years (2025 if we're lucky), but I think there's potential. Let me know your thoughts below!
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Definitely sparking my interest. This is the type of bike Harley should be building if they want to stay in the game.
Exactly. The thing is. The people at the top of harley are purposely destroying the brand
🏜️🌵
I want one.
@@whatyoumakeofit6635 Don't have a shoe guy run a motor company.
Harley's current CEO has his head so far up his ass regarding the market and demographics. Not giving Harley guys what they want, and not giving non-Harley guys what they want either. Just more bikes nobody is asking for at prices nobody wants to pay.
Those are definitely sport bike numbers, on a cruiser. This, is what people have been asking Harley for.
Eric Buell did design the fxr before he went out on his own,,,he made his bones as a Harley engineer and everything he touches is magic
He didn't design the fxr. He was involved in the design among many others.
He also didn't go "out" on his own.....he was shown the door in favor of "heritage" over performance
@@shane35fowler well the motor co. Was pretty stupid for that,weather or not he was shown the door or walked out on his own free will,the bikes he engineered after his voyage with Harley had his name as the bikes brand,he gets a lot of respect from me
@@bretcappola6904 ruclips.net/video/uxDoC-HppIA/видео.html
In 1993, Harley-Davidson bought 49 percent of the company, In 1998, Harley bought another 49 percent of the company. In 2009 amid an economic downturn, Harley-Davidson decided to shut down the Buell Motorcycle Company. It didn’t want to sell the bikes at Harley dealerships and Buell lacked a dealership network of its own.
Sad day for the Man who Brought the Mo-Co to the generations not named Boomers... HD also elected to do all of this while never shopping Buell to investors or offering the company for sale.... I find it strange that a company that requested Protection Tariffs from the Government to "Save American Jobs" in the 80s would kill off 180+ Positions without the opportunity to save those same jobs...
@@shane35fowler Ketih Wandell CEO of Harley canceled the Buell relationship and the harley racing program. Dude was an idiot.
I hope this is a huge hit. Erik Buell definitely deserves this to be a huge success, dude is innovative.
Even though he’s not involved in this bike, basically everything about it is his design
erik buell is in no way associated with buell motorcyles for a pretty long time now.
@@mcnuggetapple No, its not. The only thing from the Eric Buell bike is the motor, and rotax designed that. This bike and its design have zero to do with Eric Buell.
Erik Buell has nothing to do with the new company, and believe me, he is probably not too impressed with the big hype of putting a superbike engine in a old HD frame.
@@norseman5041 Erik buell is too busy working on fuell to care , also every bit of tech on the bike is literally his creation including the original fxr frame that this is inspired by
Got my pre order in. Small american companies can't succeed if we dont support them. Buell could be the future of american motorcycles. They're willing to push indian and hd to be more innovative. We just need to support them.
Harley Davidson owns buell.
@@MattMo-ct5ijno. They don't. Lmfao.
@@MattMo-ct5ij no longer do. And thats a really good thing
It's important to buy things new when something comes out that you like. Some people wait until vehicles are a little older to buy one so they can save a little money, but then those same people get mad when they cancel a certain model because of low sales. Manufacturers don't take into account how many used units are being sold. It's like all the car enthusiasts that get mad because manual transmissions are disappearing.... We'll go buy one then. It might be a big investment, but you are doing your part to keep what you like alive.
Your logic is flawed. Canceled products does not stop the previous releases from
Being available. Plenty of victory motorcycles still around to buy
How am I supposed to trust a brand new product with no proper research available. I probably wouldn't buy a new fxlrs but if I did I know what I'm getting into.
when a manufacturer releases a product they already have a schedule for how long it will be run.
marketing divides customers into different categories, but for simplicity’s sake let’s call one group “early adopters” and the other one “conservatives”. In the context of motorcycles, the early adopters have a host of reasons for being the first ones to own a new vehicle. Their purchasing philosophy is radically different than that of a more conservative customer that values reliability and convenience over novelty. Buell most likely has a strategy to reach the conservative group over time.
Most people cannot afford things new. We buy what stands out. If this bike is actually good it will make it
Pre-ordered last night. LOVE this bike concept
Buell finally got out of the death grip of Harley ❤
They wer since 2010. The majority of the components on this bike are off and EBR1190
So many people in the comments not up to date with the motorcycle industry. Harley hasn't been involved with Buell for many many years. In fact Eric Buell isn't involved in these bikes in any way. New group bought the Buell name from Harley. Buell didn't even own rights to his own name.
@Motoman Yeah, Buell changed hands a few times. Harley tried but didn't push Buell hard. Wish they still made the sport bikes, they were pretty cool.
Two things to be said about that.
1. Buell was an unprofitable boat anchor under HD. Erik Buell was a revolutionary engineer, yes, BUT the people buying motorcycles are not engineering nerds and Buells designs were just too far outside of the mainstream for the overwhelming majority of the consumer market. Nobody wanted them.
2. Erik Buell agreed to the deal. When you dance with the devil, you don't change him... the devil changes you.
@@cafenightster4548 Buell (the new owner do, they have the Hammerhead 1190, that is actually pretty much identical to the EBR 1190RX that is in my garage)
Harley needs competition. Let’s hope this Buell is a game changer. I really hope they do good. I’d so buy it.
Indian has entered the chat.
put 20K in your pocket and run to the store, put 8K extra since you probably want some upgrades.
@@joshbass7460 indian is marginally better but they're playing the same game as harley...as all cruiser manufacturers for that matter. Cruisers are way too heavy and way too gutless for what you pay. This bike will change the game.
@@calincampbell5637 they are purpose built machines that do what they are designed to do what sport bikes suck at. That weight is an advantage when covering 600+ miles of interstate in a day, and any engine that can push 1500+ lbs of motorcycle, passengers and luggage down the road at interstate speeds and still give acceleration on demand without having to downshift is hardly anemic.
@@joshbass7460 doesn’t change the fact they are charging too much for what you get.
You’re not paying for a complex braking system
You’re not paying for a complex lean angle system
You’re not paying for traction control systems
You’re not paying for screaming power or even torque at this point.
The point is we want the hellcat of cruisers… we want to give sport bikes a run for the money while still being able to cruise.
That is why HDs power cruiser line up is utter trash and anemic. HD bikes don’t sit right to me until you get heavy into their touring line up…. Even then I think there are better bikes for the money …
Ive got mine on pre-order. . Im with you, the weight and power will blow everything else like it out of the water.
What Harley should've done 😃👍🏻. I'd buy this BUEL before I'd ever buy another Hardly a Davidson . BUEL got it right 👍🏻. I want this bike NOW 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😊
If this bike is anywhere near the 20k mark, HD will be destroyed in the cruiser market. Most of their market comes from baggers anyway. I have pre-order so as long as this bike keeps these numbers and the price is right, I am in.
There isn't another bike on the market in this category that comes close to these numbers.
Clubstyle fxr is what it looks like...if dealership support was like HD then I'd buy it
going to blow over 20k but going to be a game changer.
I’m a dyna guy through and through but I must say it appears that this might be the bike that we have all been looking for!
If you're a dyna guy, it's cause that's all you've rode.
i want one too!!!! BTW I have an EBR 1190 OMG that motor is a monster killer!!!
Good move erik rx1190 in a mono shock chopper ,,that's mt Olympus man !
Erik Buell is no longer part of Buell.
Welcome back Buell! While I'm not ga!ga! over the styling, I do like the specs. As for price I'd rather pay 20K on this then 7 or 8 Grand on something coming out of China! Thanks for posting.
I have owned 3 Buell’s a 92 RSS, 95 S2 and a 96. S1 and I have little hope for the current Buell motor company’s future. They are the liquidation company that bought EBR and they are using left over 6 year old stock and technology. Buell has no dealer network 6 at all to support the customer after purchase. Most of all Erik Buell has no involvement in the current Buell Motorcycle company in which he was the heart and soul of what is a Buell Motorcycle. I still own my 96 S1 and still due track days on it.
I’d have to quit buying eggs but, yeah, I would drop $20k and hope I didn’t regret it.
I’d say it’ll be at least $30,000. It does look like an awesome bike!
Buell probably don't want to mimic Harley and throw out an extortionately high price tag... but at least we'll be getting performance for the money.
It’s going to be 20,000
@@DenvarShay HD really doesn't have out of control pricing. And Ftr1200 is more than a sportster S. The pan america is priced the same as a GS1250. A new r1 is 18k for christ sake.
@@fvgc454ss The base price on a Sportster S actually isn't that bad, you're right. But a base FTR is still cheaper by close to 1k USD, close though. The R1 is in a totally different league to both in terms of performance, technology, fit and finish. So I'm not sure how it made it into that argument.
An R1 costs less than a Low Rider S, and while I own multiple cruisers and can appreciate them for what they are...at least you can see the costs in the R1. KYB forks and shock, electronic wizardry, decent tires, dual brembos up front, magnesium wheels, a 200hp+ engine full of titanium, titanium exhaust etc. How much in Screaming Eagle dollars and Harley Technicians is it going to cost to match any of that? (rhetorical question, I know it's 10's of thousands)
@@DenvarShay wrong. My buddy got a sportster s for 16,9 out the door. Other buddy got a 2019 ftr1200s was 18,9 out the door. The entire point is a liter bike like an r1 brand new was 10k in 2005. Everything has gone up. Performance bike with no creature comforts and the entire body is plastic. Its hilarious when people compare Japanese pricing to anything premium brand. HD, Ducati, BMW, KTM, MV Agusta will always be more money how nobody understands by now is beyond comprehension. Flat out performance isn't what everyone is after. Some people like the look, the sounds the ergonomics the practicality etc. And not everyone wants the same bike every hockey puck has with white Oakleys and a flat brim monster hat. Beyond that honda, yamaha, kawasaki, suzuki build cars, generators, outboard engines etc. Most of there motorcycle race programs are tax writes offs for the rest of the company. Same as ducati is to VW. So they have the ability to mass produce at a fraction of the other companies. HD still owns itself.
You want to try another fun bike, the Victory Octane is right there.
It wouldn't take long g for videos to start popping g up of people cramming evos or twincams into those frames
Have you ever done a review on the Yamaha MT09SP? A gen 3? If you haven't I'd like to hear your thoughts.
If your getting out of the whole Harley/Dyna scene.. what’s next? Sports bike?
Proper sumo or maybe adv...but time will tell.
GasGas 700 SM.......
looks great and having ridden a buell i do like it. although is it just a custom concept that will never materialise. buell might have another go at buliding bikes, but with a frme resembling an fxr and dyna type styling with a load of roland sands parts on it. i dont think many people would pay that much for an old idea. is the cali style, stunt bike still popular? i ride a cali style fxdx but over here in the UK it seems to be getting less popular.
Who cares if it’s popular.
@@leward obviously sale figures care!
@@1979phill true enough, can’t argue that
@@leward thing is, Buell didn't do that well with sales previously. although we shall see if they produce the bike.
@@1979phill Harley cut them as they were gaining momentum. Here’s to Buell’s comeback 🍻
Awesome video and I love this bike👍 what is make me comfortable for someone 6 foot for ride 🤔
this is definitely the opposite of the video I'm dropping on this tomorrow. That said, it's a good looking bike and would consider paying that
Me too! Just put a deposit down.
If you buy it, I'll buy it and one day I hope I can ride with you haha love your vids brotha!
Deal, bro! Ha! 💯🤙
I hope it doesn't price itself out of existence.
The hardcore Buell guys are probably not too impressed, me for one, who need another old school cruiser. I guess they are giving up competing with Ducati and such, like what Buell intended to do the EBR 1190RS and RX did.
Sold!!!!!!
That thing is gorgeous.
I dropped my $50 deposit on one. It’s a badass bike for sure.
I love my dyna but holy this bike is sick
So if you ride your bike every day for your main transportation, especially the high way, you do not want a lightweight bike. Only 430ld isn't a perk for a guy like me that rides every day. If your trying to do tricks, then hell yea, I get it. I ride a lightweight 2001 xl1200c at only 491LB. Man, I can't wait to get a heavier bike. (Ps.) F U wind! Lol
Very interesting! I always admired Buell motorcycles. His last few had the Rotax engines. That would have been the one for me.....except the fuel in frame thing, and it appeared to be made of mainly plastic and pot metal! I only was near 1 example, it had been wrecked.
It shoud be noted that Erik Buell is not involved in the creation of these bikes nor with the Buell Motorcycle company.
From Erik Buell: "I am not involved with the EBR or Buell brands, which are owned by the people from LAP of Michigan. I do wish them the best, but just would like it to be known that I am not personally associated with a company where I have no involvement in business or engineering. The future of Erik Buell is with FUELL. "
I'd drop the cash. Easy!
I want!!!!
I would buy it. I love it.
I would buy this😍😍
Those bars 😅😅 I oive everything about it but those bars are a no go for me
i would drop 20k in a heartbeat
Its going to be way more than 20k lmao
I like it
Looks like the rebel 1100 inspired this
Not even close
i didnt even know buell was still around lol
Yup two guys bought it now out of Michigan
@@itemps interesting. Love competition.
Looks great to me. I’d like to see and test ride one. 20 grand seems cheap.
that looks so good
So is Buell no longer a harley based motor? Is that not a revolution motor
Yes and Yes.
Was only for a few years. It's crazy to think that this bike would have 50 hp more than my hammerbuilt firebolt.
It's a Rotax engine. Big engine company from Austria. Making alot of engines for planes and motorcycles. Very high quality.
@@johnDukemaster Derived from the Rotax 1125. They have been separated from Rotax since developing the 1190 engine. This is built in Michigan at the Buell facility.
@@mweba1 Ok! Cool!
Harley could have built something like this when they acquired buell years ago. Instead they killed the brand and kept building the same old big heavy bikes
Iv heard alot more than 20k dude
It's all hype till it actually exists for sale. I'm definitely not gonna be the guy who puts a down payment on a nonexistent bike. And wouldn't be the first to own one either. Let all the hype fiends buy em for the first year or two so we can find out what the bugs are and then when it proves reliable, I'd think about it. 20+k is a lot of money for a lot of unknowns
So you would drop 20k on a bike that you like, but yet other people that are willing to drop 20 to 25k on the bike they like it's crazy. Hummm..........
Low rider s killer!
Isn't that brand made by harley?!!! So its not really a harley killer if its a harley
Not since 2009
As the CEO of HD announces that HD will go all electric, Buell releases this bike.... This will end HD
Uhhh, doesn’t Harley own Buell? 😂
14 years ago
Just buy a Ducati Xdiavel. I like eric buell but let's be honest, this is his 3rd attempt at becoming a successful manufacturer. What's the chances he's still around in 5-10 years?
sorry .it has two wheels and no a/c .idc if it goez 200 mph and in 3 seconds , no bike is worth 20 k. stupid and irresponsible. i ride 20 yr old rice. i still get there just the same and can still afford food for family.
Im gonna laugh my a off if buell undercuts and steals the market from under harley. Deserves the crown honestly that company stiffed Eriks visionary innovation hard
Harley didn't stiff Buell. He stiffed them. He made millions you know. He came out just fine.
Not the best looking bike but specs and price will make harleys look real old and overpriced.
Wait its a harley killer but its a harley meaning buell uses there motors, so who is killing?! When it can compete with something like a CBR or an r1, maybe then Ill give it a look. I know alot of you are butt hurt over what I say but Im sorry the truth hurts...
Your "truth" is incorrect. This is not a Harley engine. The 1190 is built in Michigan at their facility. 450 lbs with 175 will compete with almost any bike. Depends more on the rider.
They haven't used a 45 degree air-cooled twin since 2009. They are their own engine 1190 helicon based off the 1125r engine Rotax built for buell. Now you've been educated. The EBR1190 did compete with all those companies numb nuts
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Harley liquidated buell in 2009. Since then eric has used the rotax engine in his own developments and finally sold the company to the liquidation firm that worked with harley all those years ago. The rotax was originally developed in austria but since then buell engines have been designed and built in the USA. This bike has every bit of performance a liter bike does, apart from the lean angle due to the nature of this bike being a cruiser. That being said i'm sure it will still be fun and flickable with 450lbs, mid controls, and high ride height.
It's a Pan America with a different tank & fairing. Meh. Probably full of all the same issues the Pan America is.
Not a pan america at all 🤣
Ooooo liquid cooling scaryyyy 😂😂😂
sub 500lbs cruiser with a supposed 175hp vtwin. Harley will never have an answer to that.
Look at the Indian FTR. Why isn't Harley putting there awsome Rev Tech engine in a Modern frame? There totally dropping the ball with that engine. It's a lot of fun in all the wrong platforms!
Rev tech makes shit engines...do you mean rev max?
It seems interesting for sure. People love to bitch about Harley prices and practices (while some points I do agreee) but nothing else is quite like a Harley. You can't even get into (NEW) models of Indian for less than 12K MSRP. Even if this bike is good, if its over 20k then only rich or committed fans will be on it. I'm not over here calling the Pan American or The Sportster S (love to have one) Indian killers, people love to hate I guess, but competition is good. Even the 'lesser priced Honda and Yams etc are up in price and have a fraction of support and customization compared to the 2 American MC companies. My biggest gripe is how the CEO of Harley wants to make HD a luxury brand essentially which I disagree with entirely but if we as customers tell them what we want, well, the bottom line will show that, only time can tell but I'm not wishing for Harleys demise when they've done alot and have been making pretty good steps in the past few years to break into the newer scene.
Why do people talk about bikes that kill Harley’s? Who cares? People don’t buy Harley’s to be the fastest bikes. The idea that Harley owners would really believe that Harley’s are the best bikes for speed or for any reason is silly. If you ride, you can respect all bikes. If you can’t, check your ego.
Harley is so done. They could have made a bike like this years ago and kept Eric B. On the payroll. I had $20k ready to go for the H-D 1250 Cafe Racer they teased. ILL gladly send a de posit for the “super cruiser harley crusher”. Everyday another geezer dies and h-D loses more value. Imagine all those used baggers going to scrap no one under 7o years old wants.
You're lost. Harley sells the shit out of baggers. More than anything else. All kinds of young guys buying/riding them. Harley isn't going anywhere.
I guess at 26 I'm a geezer who bought a Harley. 😕
@@thehardcorecollector9355 well only if you bought a bagger. Those are not real motorcycles, they are profit makers that allow Harley to build crap as long as the marketing can convince a sucker he/ she is more of a bad ass if you have an 800lb. Rolling recliner with infotainment. If can’t wheelie you ain’t a bad ass
I hope he buys the old sportster patten, and keeps it alive by making a super sportster
I'm picky with bikes but I'm really impressed with that bike that it comes from the factory looking that cool, I would buy that .
I love all you RUclips guys you love every motorcycle that they let you ride around for free on. You want to get a Harley killer you buy a used Jack bike and you kill all the Harley's you want you don't have to spend 20 grand on a Harley killer. Let's see you put your money where your mouth is. I ride a nice slow Sportster 883 I will wave at you while you have your hands on the side of the highway Troopers car as he is giving you $1,000 speeding ticket enjoy your 176 horsepower until you lose your license or your life. Have a nice day.
the bike harley shouldve built.but its too far away from their obsession with 2 wheeled tractors.besides harley would put a 15k addition on the price tag.because they feel we owe them for allowing us the pleasure/displeasure of their david brown tractor equivelants.
Already put my preorder in. Hope it works out
Kinda looks like a dyna low rider s but jacked up.
I’m with you. Kinda why I like the little Indians. Light weight and fast
I can't wait. I pre ordered one.
Modern day FXR with all the upgrades hell yea I’d buy one!!!!!
I hope it works out for Buell but it will never have a selling price of $20K in 2025, unless their is some pre order discount for early orders.
You never know. About 80% of the bike is stuff buell already had on hand, so the production cost might be low enough that they can sell it for that price.
Get Buell to loan you one for reviews like Indian did.
Very cool bike, and clever marketing to attach the Buell name to it, but I don't think Erik Buell had a hand in the development and design of this bike. It's my understanding that he's actually developing a lineup of electric motorcycles under the company name of Fuell. I do wish success for each of these ventures, I just hope that he still gets the attention and focus that his name and vision deserves.
I've never seen a motorcycle yet that I would spend $20,000 on.
Don't be too sad. Of course, you could buy Diavel, XDiavel, Rocket 3, R18 for that money. But you bought this stupidity. Don't be sad. People are sometimes strange. You are not alone. At least in US. Next time you will learn from other's mistakes (maybe), not from your own.
Anyone paying that tag is paying for the 185 horse. It sure as hell doesnt look like 20k of bike, 20k is the low ball to get preorders. Probably be at least 25k with $1000 dealer fees and freight, another $1500 for taxes and registration.
And 185 horse out of 1200cc, how terrible us the fuel mileage going to be, nobody wants to buy a bike you have tp fill up every 100 miles, its a pain in the ass lol.
27.5k for DynaBro in a box? Ehhhhhh no thanks.
This bike is going to be closer to $30,000…. E-mail them and ask, I did. They said they’ll try to keep it competitive at 25,000-30,000$. Their exact words were “mid to high twenties”… then add exhaust, tax, title, license, dealer fees… guaranteed 28,000 - 35,000$ out the door.
I get it, but it's a honking water cooled radiator hooligan bike, and there are probably much better/faster/lighter water cooled hooligan bikes out there for much less.
my 84 fxr .. 3x less. have 3 buells, XB12, 2x tube frames but $20k is a joke. I'll grab one in a few years used.
I saw the video in Daytona when they showed the bike. This bike is sweet, Buell will be opening shops all over the United States. Yes I would drop the money on it.
That bike would be the cruiser I'd want. As a sport rider meaning I love to race canyons and do my wheelies basically an aggressive rider this would be a bike that tiks a lot of my boxes. Looks like it would be great to cruise with my wife and also rip around town or even take it to the canyon and have some fun.
Ever heard of a DYNA with some minor upgrades?
That would be a hoot to ride. Close to the same HP and torque numbers as the 1290 Supertorque I had.
world will end before this bike is available. sad. get this thing made and sold already the people can't wait.
Even in a Biden ran down economy is this bike worth 20k. This bike should be 15k max
I absolutely love it! Unfortunately I see the price is going to be the killer. At $22-$25k you really aren’t getting much other than power. 150hp isn’t out of the realm of an m8 and you can have that right now for the same money and none of drawbacks of a buell.
Yeah maybe after dumping 10 grand into a 131 kit and all the aftermarket goodies since screaming eagle stuff will only get you to 120. And then after all that you still have a bike that weighs 200 lbs more. Its no comparison
Is that a standard Evolution 883/1200 you’re riding? Sounded great.
Only thing is part availability, Dealer network,an aftermarket support.
Yeah, but would you pay $28,995 plus tax and registration?
Good video Jon,God bless you and your family 👪
Liquid-cooled always means more power and less leaks. Bring it on.