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  • @KlausCiocannis
    @KlausCiocannis 5 месяцев назад +252

    All I want to see is to have Wunder, Jankos and Perkz happy and succesful. These guys deserve the world for what they achieved in the past. Seeing them back together after so long is the only thing motivating me to keep watching lol esports as I used to. I hope that their passion and motivation goes back up and destroy competition, along side Miky and Caps

    • @Habeev07
      @Habeev07 5 месяцев назад

      There will not be enough raw materials to make the batteries for all the EV cars let alone Semi trucks... LET ALONE THE INFRASTUCTURE TO DO THIS. The EV is not the future fix all end all be all. Hydrogen and ammonia combustion is the future. And you can take that to the bank Elon. GET THESE POS EV's OUT MY FACE!!!

    • @restlessjuan
      @restlessjuan 5 месяцев назад +25

      Considering Perkz took the lowest rate of pay you could get, i believe this is a passion project and this is most likely Jankos last year.

    • @Etikal
      @Etikal 4 месяца назад +11

      "x deserves" means nothing, those player are famous, wealthy and succesfull in many regards. Why would they deserve more than some rookie that gave up his social life and future to play league? Your comment smells more like a prayer to see your favorite player win rather than a genuine and unbiased praise.

    • @KlausCiocannis
      @KlausCiocannis 4 месяца назад

      @@Etikal wtf did I just read. Go shit your pants if you feel offended by this. Ofc I have some favourites and G2 are amongst them and it is nothing wrong to support the players. The fact that you feel offended by this is not only insanely cringe, but also shows how doomed humanity is if people like you, with such little thinking capacity, ride the internet

    • @user-ck4zs4wi2v
      @user-ck4zs4wi2v 4 месяца назад +2

      you really live in the past

  • @mr.yhulling418
    @mr.yhulling418 4 месяца назад +15

    „We make 2 tier list this time“ *makes one*

  • @connerhuss1062
    @connerhuss1062 5 месяцев назад +186

    Hot take: I’m not sold on cabochard. Sure we’ve seen that he can be one of the best top laners in the league but in 2018-2019 vitality he was getting a ridiculous amount of jungle attention in order to enable him. On top of that, he’s been playing in the ERLs for like 3 years at this point and is used to dumpstering his lane every game because his opponents aren’t as good. Sure I think he can be good later but I don’t think he will be one of the best top laners in the league straight out of the gate like everyone says he will

    • @asiergarcia3874
      @asiergarcia3874 5 месяцев назад +34

      100% agree. Also mention the hype is getting is bc of french fanbase but we'll see. So hyped for this year!

    • @massyl25
      @massyl25 5 месяцев назад +17

      His opponent aren't as good in ERL? But mate, he won against Oscarinin and Szygenda in ERL, even Irrelevant if you go 2 years ago. What you're saying doesn't make any sense seeing how much toplaners come from ERL, not even talking about Myrwin, and a good amount come from the LFL itself.
      He is also an experienced player and they'll all play in a brand new map with a lot of changes.
      He may need to squale but saying he clapped them because they were bad is simply not true.

    • @0re0n
      @0re0n 5 месяцев назад +22

      Literally more than half of LEC toplaners were in ERL 1-2 years ago and Cabo was better than them. The only reason Cabo wasn't in LEC is him refusing offers every split, including FNC superteam.

    • @connerhuss1062
      @connerhuss1062 5 месяцев назад +29

      @@massyl25 oscarinninn and szygenda we’re 2 of the worst tops in the league at the start of 2023 and it took a while for them to get good. Like I said we know his ceiling and I think he can get back there but he’s not gonna be the best right off the bat

    • @ju5tm398
      @ju5tm398 5 месяцев назад +8

      Yamato said himself that he was forced on Sion Duty at worlds when he was on Vit because he couldnt win on anything else (somewhere in his first 3hr podcast ep with bwipo & going over past worlds etc)

  • @RukalovesMichi
    @RukalovesMichi 5 месяцев назад +11

    and Jun was also talking with Fans in Noahs Twitch chat, he understands a lot and he learns english really good

  • @christopherriordan2057
    @christopherriordan2057 5 месяцев назад +36

    All of the teams are very talented, so it comes down to:
    1) How well they play together as a team with macro decisions
    2) Strength of Individual Player’s Champ pools in the META
    3) Results of the fiesta that will be the best of 1’s in the first 3 weeks of each split

    • @steverichman4962
      @steverichman4962 4 месяца назад +1

      thats why i feel fnc is not a tier. they dont have a shotcaller anymore, espacially not a calm won, now razork maybe does it and it wll get a clownfiesta all the time + their coach is still a clown without knowledge on the meta

  • @hastyhokage1505
    @hastyhokage1505 5 месяцев назад +386

    HERETICS GOES TO WORLD FINALS

    • @piotreus5631
      @piotreus5631 5 месяцев назад +65

      hopium overdose but i want to believe

    • @hastyhokage1505
      @hastyhokage1505 5 месяцев назад +26

      @@piotreus5631 its time to top 2019 baby

    • @ta9891
      @ta9891 5 месяцев назад +20

      Heretics bout to be the first team in LEC history to go winless both splits 💀

    • @Jppanp
      @Jppanp 5 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@ta9891how so? There wayy many worse rosters that the odds are pratically zero that they wont be top 6 let alone being winless😂

    • @asimon7100
      @asimon7100 5 месяцев назад +5

      Heretics losing to Fnatic in worlds finals 3-2 fingers crossed 🙃 you heard it here first

  • @JustStef018
    @JustStef018 5 месяцев назад +42

    Looking forward to watching league next year, our team rosters seem very exciting. I've been a team (FNC) fan for so many years, heck, even a decade, but I'm learning to just root for a player that I like rather than a team that one could argue lost identity many years ago. So my cheers this year go to Hilly, Rekkles that joined T1 challengers, Humanoid, Razork, Miky, Jankos, and a few other good dudes from the LEC. ❤

    • @TimoRahn-ip8bj
      @TimoRahn-ip8bj 5 месяцев назад +1

      Huma and good dudes in one sentence 😂😂 delusional

    • @JustStef018
      @JustStef018 5 месяцев назад

      @@TimoRahn-ip8bj so he's a bad dude? 😅 Definitely a great player to watch

    • @TimoRahn-ip8bj
      @TimoRahn-ip8bj 4 месяца назад

      Uh didn't saw your answer, yeah he is. A lot of players say he is an asshole. Btw I don't think he is bad, he is pretty good. Just an overego asshole

  • @ozthebeeman
    @ozthebeeman 5 месяцев назад +54

    mom can we have G2.
    mom: we have G2 at home.
    G2 at home:
    heratics

    • @simple45679
      @simple45679 4 месяца назад

      G2 at home is the team that didn't even get to quarters

    • @typekkleks4013
      @typekkleks4013 4 месяца назад +1

      they havent even played game yet with this roster wdym XD@@simple45679

    • @hardlo7146
      @hardlo7146 4 месяца назад

      It's the EU classic. We had the same happen in season 5/6 with Fnatic Orange and Fnatic Blue (Origen)

  • @bartart4583
    @bartart4583 5 месяцев назад +14

    Old roccat have full Polish team:
    Xaxus
    Jankos
    Overpow
    Celaver
    vander

  • @CocytusCrowley
    @CocytusCrowley 4 месяца назад +5

    Thanks good you show twitch chat. Look at all informative input they give

  • @Sakharee
    @Sakharee 4 месяца назад

    Just came here to see the rosters and boy - i hope heretics does well!

  • @asianpride9294
    @asianpride9294 5 месяцев назад +8

    I have a lot more faith in SK. I think they clear Rogue/MAD easily, and are competing with KC/BDS/XL for top 6

  • @Kitsaline
    @Kitsaline 4 месяца назад +2

    My only bet is that kcorp botlane implodes by spring

  • @chris4824
    @chris4824 5 месяцев назад +57

    Heretics with a good coaching staff and roster that has been proven to work well together and boy is scared to put them in the top 4 while telling me there's hope for the spanish firesale team.

    • @gaborolaszi5062
      @gaborolaszi5062 5 месяцев назад +4

      also that XL team looks dogshit as well. They seem like they were able to downgrade their 2 times 10th place team. Peach was terrible most of the time and they only showed signs of life with Abbe (whom they got rid of )

    • @stefankatsarov5806
      @stefankatsarov5806 5 месяцев назад +3

      I think Herethics might have problems in the first split but will pick it up afther.

    • @THEkullerpuller
      @THEkullerpuller 4 месяца назад

      He didn't value a teams ability to adapt to the new version of league at all. A team with players like Wunder, Jankos and Perkz will likely have an advantage here because of their creativity and their insane game knowledge. They also have Peter Dun who is known for his ability to adapt to these kinds of changes and get the best out of his players.

    • @vedantgupta2145
      @vedantgupta2145 4 месяца назад +1

      heretics is not good bruh unless the players take a huge leap. Jankos/Flakked were good but perkz has been the worst midlaner in the league this year . Also people hv been overestimating wunder, he has nvr been a carry and wont turn into a carry now, he is gonna be only good if his lanes dont fall off which jankos should prevent but again i m not confident bout perkz

    • @THEkullerpuller
      @THEkullerpuller 4 месяца назад

      @@vedantgupta2145 nah, I completely disagree. Perkz has been far from the worst midlaner, in the beginning of S13 him and Bo were the best mid jungle in the league at points. He didn't have his best year, that's true but he is still an elite player. Jankos was pretty much the best jungler in the LEC despite being elohelled with players like Evi and Ruby and Wunder has only been playing at the very beginning of the year when they had that dumbsterfire of a roster with the Rekkles/Ruckz botlane. When he helped them out in playoffs in summer he basically just walked in without any significant time to scrim and was pretty much their best player. He even won every match up against Brokenblade who was at that point the best top in EU despite BB having the counterpick in every game. It's true that Wunder hasn't been playing a carry style for some time now but to say he was never a carry is absolutely false. He was THE BEST carry toplaner EU has ever seen when he was on teams that knew how to play with a carry top and then became the strongest weakside top of the LEC when his team and the meta required it. All of these former G2 players have insane gameknowledge, proven synergy, insane mental stability and know exactly how to win a game or even an entire tournament. Now with Flakked/Targamas this is sort of a throwback to 2018 G2 but with an arguably better bot. What also shouldn't be underestimated is that all of these players have something to prove, which will give them even more motivation.

  • @Jerryduque97
    @Jerryduque97 5 месяцев назад +2

    Caedrel saying in the 1st 2-3 mins about razork humanoid what I've been trying to tell twitter for the past year. People telling me that rekkles not being "enabled" was the problem was insane as well

    • @andijbg3022
      @andijbg3022 5 месяцев назад

      fr man all my friends always hated razork so much when he was trying his best

    • @Wund3rKiin
      @Wund3rKiin 5 месяцев назад +2

      The problem isn't razork or humanoid, it's them together on the same team. The two of them have negative synergy. Both would be better if you would separate them.

    • @rotuj9752
      @rotuj9752 4 месяца назад

      @@Wund3rKiin cope more with this **** take.

  • @ferypunto6990
    @ferypunto6990 3 месяца назад

    Great analysis, nailed it

  • @tomgirard4314
    @tomgirard4314 4 месяца назад +3

    we will all be there to remind you when you placed kc C tier

  • @rosenkoychev7920
    @rosenkoychev7920 5 месяцев назад +14

    No matter what players you throw at Mac, he makes a top4 team out of them every single year. 5 years in a row. idk why VIT so underrated

    • @lissnoob
      @lissnoob 4 месяца назад +2

      Cause vit is the worst org of the lec they don't realy care about league

    • @rosenkoychev7920
      @rosenkoychev7920 4 месяца назад

      @@lissnoob you can say the same thing for at least 5 other orgs.. and if VIT don't care why bring Mac then

  • @louiskonerding7502
    @louiskonerding7502 5 месяцев назад +3

    Do a LCK tierlist pls

  • @ProitoOk
    @ProitoOk 5 месяцев назад +3

    Bds is so hype to watch i think i'll root with them one more year, even if they are not the best team

    • @Wund3rKiin
      @Wund3rKiin 4 месяца назад

      They got rid of their primary shot caller and carry. It's basically an entirely different team now, and if it's not a worse one I'd be shocked.

    • @vedantgupta2145
      @vedantgupta2145 4 месяца назад +2

      thats completely false, crownie was the worst player on the team except for one split@@Wund3rKiin

  • @lazydk2654
    @lazydk2654 5 месяцев назад +9

    How Trymbi and Crownie doesnt have a team is nuts

    • @ferst262
      @ferst262 4 месяца назад +4

      After last season, I think it’s understandable. Crownie was useless and Trymbi turned into the bad version of Hyli

    • @STRENGTH444
      @STRENGTH444 4 месяца назад

      After the crownie worlds performance I can. He was so underwhelming. Trymbi should have a team though

    • @eVill420
      @eVill420 4 месяца назад

      @@ferst262 but he was better than the real hyli for most of it so idk

    • @ferst262
      @ferst262 4 месяца назад

      @@eVill420 not really, he was way worse, he just had the inting part, none of the good plays

    • @eVill420
      @eVill420 4 месяца назад

      @@ferst262 well I guess you're right thinking about it, his laning also was really bad with Noah, but I think he was shotcalling a lot and could play many champions other supports don't touch

  • @user-pk8sx2kl8k
    @user-pk8sx2kl8k 3 месяца назад

    HI Caedrel!.Thank you for leaving the video about LEC. I am the fan of LCK jungler Juhan who lives in Korea, who was 22&23 drx. 22drx could be worlds champion because of Juhan, but unfortunately, There has no place now where Juhan can join in. Will be there any place for Juhan after winter on LEC? I'm sorry to ask you on this channel. I would appciate it if you answer. 🥲

  • @RedNoseDrainBeer
    @RedNoseDrainBeer 5 месяцев назад

    Before watching this, I'll give a prediction what Caedrel will predict: Same as 2023 standings.

  • @specialoneekko3670
    @specialoneekko3670 5 месяцев назад +3

    Hard tierlist but for me i can see fnc win the league in one of splits also i think kc will drop i donot think there mid and supp in LEC level
    Also i feel like rouge or mad lion will be 3rd and contesting the league

    • @lissnoob
      @lissnoob 4 месяца назад

      Targa is one of the best sup in the league just wait and see

    • @damor7337
      @damor7337 4 месяца назад

      ​@@lissnoobHe's ass man.

  • @pjnardu
    @pjnardu 5 месяцев назад

    I think the first NIP was all danish players too

  • @MrJoerike
    @MrJoerike 4 месяца назад

    At the moment if you swap XL with SK his standings are pretty solid

  • @janos2318
    @janos2318 4 месяца назад

    well your editor knows where is the clicks coming from... (by putting the KC logo in S TIER on the thumbnail)

  • @adrianotzlberger2951
    @adrianotzlberger2951 5 месяцев назад +1

    What I think is that top and bot Laine swap meta is coming back

    • @adrianotzlberger2951
      @adrianotzlberger2951 5 месяцев назад

      The botlaine top can get the voids. toplaine is basically not ganible and for 3rd drag they can swap back and teamfight there

  • @Leitmotiv77
    @Leitmotiv77 3 месяца назад

    what do u think nowday of your prediction?

  • @danielshamlian2800
    @danielshamlian2800 5 месяцев назад +7

    I think Vitality is A tier. Mac will do some good for Vetheo. Great bot lane, and Photon will body in the new map---Mac will have just worked with Chasy for a year as well. Obviously each player is different, but Pho stayed, and Mac will be coming in with a good enough template.
    Heretics is A too. Strict upgrade top, synergy upgrade mid. Team seems to want it enough.

    • @papeh01
      @papeh01 5 месяцев назад +3

      Vitality bee > Vitality LEC, save my comment, they will swap players during all 2024

    • @danielshamlian2800
      @danielshamlian2800 5 месяцев назад

      @@papeh01 :O
      That's exciting! I'll try to find this and give you props if it happens, even just a few changes. Does that include Daglas? Or would he be in with the Bee team and their synergies?

    • @luanacavalcantedossantos9837
      @luanacavalcantedossantos9837 5 месяцев назад +1

      Problem is: Mac is not the head coach, he is the team manager. He will be to vitality what Romain is for G2. They kept the same coach from last year.

    • @mihailomiodrag7257
      @mihailomiodrag7257 4 месяца назад

      Those positions don't mean anything. They work like group and Mac will have big influence.​@@luanacavalcantedossantos9837

    • @vedantgupta2145
      @vedantgupta2145 4 месяца назад

      mid is a downgrade for heretics tho, vetheo was so good for them but they removed him so unless perkz takes a huge jump which is unlikely honestly its a downgrade. Vitality defo has potential but i just cant imagine them being good off the start

  • @kvyatormaldonado92
    @kvyatormaldonado92 5 месяцев назад +1

    Lil bro said hes gonna make 2 tier lists and boom

  • @eidamgouda0609
    @eidamgouda0609 5 месяцев назад +10

    I agree with your tier list, except Fnatic right behind G2, based on their level from worlds and upgrade supp, Vit and Rogue higher (really good individuals) and Kc D tier, cause their topside looks really weak on paper

    • @arnauzer
      @arnauzer 5 месяцев назад +2

      I actually think the opposite for KC, their topside is TOO strong and you should actually find a way to neutralize the early game topside by focussing on dealing with the botlane. Bo is probably the most dangerous player in the league and engaging a fight on his own term would be the worst idea any player can make.

    • @eidamgouda0609
      @eidamgouda0609 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@arnauzer HOW can you say too strong, they have weak solo laners and Bo has potencial, but he won´t be ready still imo, they had so much time in last splits and he still didn´t deliver, I don´t think that Yamato is that good to immediately unlock Bo

    • @stefankatsarov5806
      @stefankatsarov5806 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@eidamgouda0609BO wasnt unlocked becasue his supp never trully helped and most of all his team whanted him to play tanks and the midlaner never helped him.

    • @stefankatsarov5806
      @stefankatsarov5806 5 месяцев назад

      Also FNC cant be just behind G2.
      Their supp was downgraded.
      Their worlds performance was worse than G2's, and also last year they had good worlds too and humanoid played well, they got back to LEC and he is shit again( inconsistand ).
      Noah was way worse in the playoffs than in regular split too.
      As it stands now G2 is alone in the top position until proven otherwise.

    • @welltorium
      @welltorium 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@eidamgouda0609kc also picked up steak to help coach the team, steak previously worked with Bo when he played great in the lpl in fpx

  • @Deceris
    @Deceris 4 месяца назад +2

    A bit strange to put GiantX that high is Jackies some kind of prodigy or what ? I have more faith in SK i feel like they are so underrated

  • @miles9050
    @miles9050 5 месяцев назад

    what are the flags next to the team names representing?

  • @danielserratos878
    @danielserratos878 5 месяцев назад +24

    Mikyx over Keria aintnoway

  • @reecedabeast5273
    @reecedabeast5273 5 месяцев назад

    bro i was calling these red side bot lane changes from day one, the two tri bushes are not the same, it is not identical they legit made it 10x worse for red side botlane to be ganked for zero reason

  • @sheenli176
    @sheenli176 5 месяцев назад +1

    where is fin playing next year somebody knows?

  • @michaelgray4552
    @michaelgray4552 5 месяцев назад +25

    I would bet g2 doesn’t solo the league like last year. Still agree with them being the best but I think leg rosters make so much more sense than last year.

    • @xmorose
      @xmorose 5 месяцев назад +8

      I mean, i hope so? Playing 1v0 is not really fun and not productive either

    • @MrXwatcher
      @MrXwatcher 5 месяцев назад +5

      None of these rosters look good if G2 doesn't solo the league I don't see LEC even getting into groups at worlds

    • @jcr1766
      @jcr1766 5 месяцев назад

      I struggle to see how Vetheo + Carrzy, Hyli or Upset + Targamas makes any sense tbh

    • @TheRaidantDX
      @TheRaidantDX 5 месяцев назад

      G2 has previous experience. They should absolutely smash the region.

    • @eidamgouda0609
      @eidamgouda0609 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@TheRaidantDX That's bullshit, Fnatic was almost as good as G2 at worlds, now they upgraded their supp, its gonna be between those 2

  • @RukalovesMichi
    @RukalovesMichi 5 месяцев назад +1

    @cadreal Jun already speaks english, watch Noahs Streams with Jun

  • @glunox
    @glunox 4 месяца назад +1

    SK D-Tier, aged well

  • @welltorium
    @welltorium 5 месяцев назад +5

    With the new map i would find it interesting if it would be viable to play 1 bot lane styled lane at top lane and opposite side of the map to the enemies bot lane styled lane. Meanwhile a tank or easy farming mage plays into the enemy duo lane. This idea is just something of like to see tried just simply for the fun of it rather then any particular reason

    • @fifth5106
      @fifth5106 4 месяца назад

      That wouldn’t do well. Bot dives are already easy for blue side in duo v duo. If it’s duo v solo, even if the solo is a tank, they’re gonna get dove.

    • @eVill420
      @eVill420 4 месяца назад

      @@fifth5106 then dive their opposite side

    • @WistiPurpleday
      @WistiPurpleday 4 месяца назад

      Top lane has fortification, but bot does not. So you might just get really far behind the first 5 min.

    • @doomse150
      @doomse150 4 месяца назад

      The problem is that a solo vs duo on top can be super safe due to map structure, while a solo vs duo on bot (maybe +jungler) is an easy diving victim.

  • @eVill420
    @eVill420 4 месяца назад

    I have only one prediction I'm sure about; Giants X will be underwhelming af

  • @Canari0n
    @Canari0n 3 месяца назад

    El tiempo pone a cada uno en su sitio. El gran grupo de Mad Koi exponen a quienes 0 creyeron en ellos.

  • @bcotrim12
    @bcotrim12 5 месяцев назад +5

    Rogue is so underrated, if Larssen and Comp alone go back to their 2022 Summer form they're already top 3

  • @i_am_person8250
    @i_am_person8250 5 месяцев назад

    The chat lmao

  • @steverichman4962
    @steverichman4962 4 месяца назад

    For me FNC can suck extremly this year if they dont get a calm shotcaller and Trymbi was that guy. In Winter atleast i feel they will suck hard and maybe later in the year they will get better, but still not really high

  • @Jonas-ke4ib
    @Jonas-ke4ib 5 месяцев назад +15

    How do both Crownie and Trymbi not have a team? Would not be surprised if they are brought in after Winter to fix a team that is underperforming.

    • @stefankatsarov5806
      @stefankatsarov5806 5 месяцев назад +13

      Literally the career of Crownshot.
      Comes midseason fixes a team, is one of the best ad's and then gets kicked off the team for some reason.

    • @HolyShitNew
      @HolyShitNew 5 месяцев назад +2

      for crownie i guess its his very very bad worlds performance and recency biased coming
      for trymbi idk but i dont really like him so nice i guess

    • @ohmygoddiosmio9138
      @ohmygoddiosmio9138 5 месяцев назад

      cant wait to see BDS realizing their mistake after a shit 2024 season@@stefankatsarov5806

    • @shreeanshmahapatra2313
      @shreeanshmahapatra2313 5 месяцев назад +1

      Bds gonna collapse worse than 2021😂

    • @DoctorDucky250
      @DoctorDucky250 5 месяцев назад

      I saw somewhere else BDS tried getting Carzzy were really close but it fell threw. By then, they'd already released Crownie and had to find another option or something.

  • @phantomarbiter176
    @phantomarbiter176 5 месяцев назад +1

    Cant wait for NRG to smack G2 out of worlds again 💪

  • @only88keys12
    @only88keys12 5 месяцев назад

    The real wild fury

  • @MFONGZ
    @MFONGZ 5 месяцев назад +1

    Chat is so blown up its distracting

  • @HolyShitNew
    @HolyShitNew 5 месяцев назад

    MAD OVER SK AINTNOWAY

  • @zackrasphodos.2305
    @zackrasphodos.2305 5 месяцев назад

    Teir list for other regions plz

  • @THEkullerpuller
    @THEkullerpuller 4 месяца назад +1

    I think it's important to factor in a teams ability to master what is essentially a new version of league. I could for example see BDS really struggle in that regard since they don't seem to have the most brainpower on their roster *cough* Adam *cough*. On the other hand Heretics could have be off to a very strong start since Wunder, Jankos and Perkz are all known for their game knowledge and creative thinking when it comes to figuring out metas and so on. This year will reward starting early even more than last year because of the amount of championship points a team could get early just by figuring out the new map faster than others.

    • @TheMrNestle
      @TheMrNestle 3 месяца назад

      this aged quite well

    • @THEkullerpuller
      @THEkullerpuller 3 месяца назад

      @@TheMrNestle let's not talk about the BDS take 😄

  • @nilsheidenreich6487
    @nilsheidenreich6487 4 месяца назад

    It all depends on the season open cinematic if i watch league. If its same shot as this year i stay out. If its good i watch. This how u see riot still cares and not just milking money out of lol. Upvote if you agree. 😅

  • @LinLinWaa
    @LinLinWaa 4 месяца назад +1

    how is 113 not in lec wtf

  • @vojtechvalenta7598
    @vojtechvalenta7598 5 месяцев назад +4

    Imagine Heretics win worlds without Cape 😂

  • @Wormizeful1
    @Wormizeful1 4 месяца назад

    My tier list:
    S tier: G2
    A tier: MAD Lions
    B tier: BDS
    C tier: GIANTX, Karmine Corp, Fnatic, SK, Vitality
    D tier: Rogue, Vitality

  • @fer3148
    @fer3148 4 месяца назад

    You might want to check out Myrwn champion pool

  • @pixelatedsb7820
    @pixelatedsb7820 5 месяцев назад +1

    Caedrel so hot 10th!

  • @edgardovossvillalobos4520
    @edgardovossvillalobos4520 5 месяцев назад

    No one believe in mad but if they…..?

  • @maxmach4361
    @maxmach4361 3 месяца назад

    He got 2 out of 10 correct, not bad.. It would have been not bad for someone without any knowledge about this game. ^^

  • @DancingToa
    @DancingToa 4 месяца назад +1

    Do I want Heretics to do well? Yeah. Do I think Perkz is permanently mental boomed now, Wunder is washed, and Jankos will actually break is back trying to carry everyone from a facilitator role? Also yes. I want to be proven wrong.

    • @Ad_Dystopia
      @Ad_Dystopia 4 месяца назад +2

      Wunder looked quite decent in 2023 Season Finals. It's really just Perkz, that looks like a full coinflip to sign.

  • @Ps-we3pp
    @Ps-we3pp 4 месяца назад

    Fnatic being slept on tbh

  • @mikelytou
    @mikelytou 4 месяца назад

    "junglers in the lec are really strong"
    Goes on to list Bo, who literally left everything to be desired.
    I've seen bo's potential on fpx, but in lec he's been consistent horsepoop and unless he actually shows his potential in lec, I'll rate him based on his horsepoop performances, not on his potential..

  • @jinzo_lord
    @jinzo_lord 5 месяцев назад

    BDS without crownie is not gonna work

  • @Crickily
    @Crickily 4 месяца назад

    Ehhhhh I think there will be some shakeup at the top. I feel Rogue is super underrated. K Corp overrated as well as Heretics. I feel BDS takes a step back. As well as XL aka GiantX. I feel this is what it is:
    S Tier: G2
    A Tier: Fnatic
    B Tier: Rogue, BDS, XL aka GiantX
    C Tier: KCorp, Heretics, Vitality
    D Tier: Mad Lions, SK
    Now roster changes can change this but I feel every team here has factors where by summer some of them can crack top 3. Like Mad could, SK with some roster moves it is possible. Heretics to me is doomed to be middle of the pack, Vitality could be Mad of last year which is just stage performers and playoff boosters. Carzzy is a top 3 ADC and no one wants to believe it. Fnatic could fall off a bit but by Summer I think they stabilize. Overall though LEC is G2, Fnatic, and everyone else.

  • @alberto2483
    @alberto2483 3 месяца назад

    🥶🥶🥶🥶

  • @user-ko2dj2fd5z
    @user-ko2dj2fd5z 5 месяцев назад

    Upload lck tierlist plz

  • @lissnoob
    @lissnoob 4 месяца назад

    I don't care about wunder jankos and perkz just hope the team will be in the top 4 to be a good team for kcorp winning against

    • @QUINCEYYY9
      @QUINCEYYY9 4 месяца назад

      KC isnt winning anything this year :D

    • @lissnoob
      @lissnoob 4 месяца назад

      @@QUINCEYYY9 i would love but yeah i don't think they will won trophy but if we're good in lec that's enough, our dream in the last year was to play in lec and stay in lec and only after we will try to be good at international but for the moment we only won in our country

  • @CyrilZhe
    @CyrilZhe 4 месяца назад

    Wait, didn’t rogue had a different name last year? Am i hallucinating? Are they owned by some American now?

  • @ju5tm398
    @ju5tm398 5 месяцев назад

    shoutout to therealwildfury

  • @ExpanderDJ
    @ExpanderDJ 5 месяцев назад +1

    LETS GO HERETICS!!!!

  • @axel978
    @axel978 5 месяцев назад +2

    1 to 10 : G2-Fnc-Kc-SK-rogue-bds-Heretics-Vit(insane jungler downgrade)-XL-Mad.
    Explanations :
    KC 3rd : honestly it's unsure how they'll do, because we don't know how their solo laners will do against good competition, as they dominated erl for a long time. I still rate this team pretty highly because of upset and bo, and the team's ability to win tournaments under pressure.
    Rogue : upgrade in jungle. Also, Larssen is great at control mages and with hwei being meta I think he'll stomp many LEC mids in lane.
    SK : they have a good botlane, doss was rank 1 recently i think. Nisqy and irrelevant are solid and consistent. Idk much abt isma tho
    bds only 6th : i think theyre a bit coinflip, and sheo is a good jungler but LEC other junglers are really really good in general. They can do like 3-7 place tbh
    Heretics : idk how they'll do. They'll have to carry through botside/mid, but idk what to expect from them.
    Vit : great players but idk abt daglas
    XL : they did 4th at summer 2023 because they had good jungler-supp synergy but they changed support somehow (i still think ignar is good tho). but they did good in Summer because LEC was really bad on that split tbh.
    Mad : going from chasy-yoya-nisqy-carzzy-hylissang to this roster is idk.... ik there might be some com issues before but what a downgrade

    • @Idyllic332
      @Idyllic332 4 месяца назад +1

      IMO the biggest issue KC will have is their botlane. Targamas us quite a timid support, he likes playing solid yet safe. Upset usually wants to stomp the lane. If they somehow end up having decent synergy, I do agree they can do some damage.

    • @axel978
      @axel978 4 месяца назад

      @@Idyllic332 upset is insane

    • @lissnoob
      @lissnoob 4 месяца назад

      Targa pyke can stomp lane

    • @vedantgupta2145
      @vedantgupta2145 4 месяца назад

      kc that high is assuming the best case scenario tho

    • @davidsanjuan9477
      @davidsanjuan9477 4 месяца назад

      AJJAJAJAJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJ what did u say about MAD? jajajajajjajajaj ÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑ

  • @definetlynotsupp
    @definetlynotsupp 5 месяцев назад +1

    can we just talk about how fucking unbearable the chat on the left is? only emote and copy pasta spam, almost no normal messages

  • @pogrebnik1
    @pogrebnik1 5 месяцев назад +1

    Shoutout to the twitchhub rat dropping DVA ass for us o7

  • @andatoren4768
    @andatoren4768 4 месяца назад +1

    SK is winning everything this year, Mark my words

  • @xEmpress95
    @xEmpress95 5 месяцев назад

    Honestly if MAD Lions roster ISN'T speaking Spanish in comms / day to day, then it's a missed opportunity. Surely, the biggest benefits to being able to put together a team compromised heavily of Spanish players is that they don't have to speak a second language. Yes, most Europeans tend to learn English and every European player in League speaks pretty good English, but also there's no way they WOULDN'T be able to communicate better and faster and have way more natural comms & dynamics if they're able to speak their actual language. So now rather than needing a Belgian, Spaniard, French, Danish and Swede player all speak English to each other, a language they will NEVER be as fluent in as their own mother tongues. You have 4 Spanish players and coaches being able to speak Spanish and the ONLY non-spanish player Fesskowy has been living in the Spanish system long enough where I would not be surprised if he, as a French player, had a stronger grasp on the Spanish language than he does on the English. ESPECIALLY with how many similarities there are in the Spanish & French lanugages. Like if the plan is NOT to have them speaking Spanish, then what was even the point.

    • @Kitsaline
      @Kitsaline 4 месяца назад

      It could also turn into a TL summer situation where the only non-Spanish speaker is pretty much abandoned in draft and review

    • @damor7337
      @damor7337 4 месяца назад

      They said they are speaking in English. Whats more, there are economic penalties if any of them speaker Spanish.

    • @larecontramildetuhermana
      @larecontramildetuhermana 4 месяца назад

      Como van a hablar en inglés si fresskowy lleva 4 años jugando en España. Estos franceses

    • @larecontramildetuhermana
      @larecontramildetuhermana 4 месяца назад

      ​​@@damor7337bro ur totally wrong. Like the team IS MADRID LIONS WITH KOI, ANOTHER SPANISH ORG, LEADED BY IBAI, AN SPANISH STREAMER, AND THE TEAM WAS PRESENTED AS "THE PHOENYX" BECAUSE IS A TRY TO BRING UP THE SPANIARDS. WTF MAN

  • @jesusrincon4535
    @jesusrincon4535 3 месяца назад +3

    Im just here to say KOI shut the mouth of everyone

  • @joaomiguel178
    @joaomiguel178 5 месяцев назад

    HRT
    VIT
    RGE
    G2
    FNC
    SK
    KC
    MAD
    BDS
    XL

  • @diefo
    @diefo 4 месяца назад +1

    No way lil bro was crunching his brain for a whole 20 minutes and came up with this shitter tierlist

  • @0re0n
    @0re0n 5 месяцев назад +4

    G2 > FNC > RGE VIT KC HRT (in no order) > BDS XL > MAD SK
    If BDS or XL are anywhere near close to making Worlds it means LEC is absolute dogshit again and going to get rekt by NA.

    • @jcr1766
      @jcr1766 5 месяцев назад

      I think you underrate SK and overrate FNC otherwise I agree

    • @eidamgouda0609
      @eidamgouda0609 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@jcr1766 You are bias then, Fnatic was almost as good as G2 at worlds plus they have better supp now

    • @silkthread7248
      @silkthread7248 5 месяцев назад

      @@eidamgouda0609yeah but they got smashed 95% of last year. what makes you believe that this will change or is it just because this one single world run.
      everyone criticized G2 and said they choked just because they didnt get into quarter finals. so i dont think saying fnatic was just as good as g2 instills any confidence into the viewers.

    • @eidamgouda0609
      @eidamgouda0609 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@silkthread7248 Fnatic got smashed only in winter, but its understandable wtf are you on, they had disgusting bot back then, even in spring it was succes, cause they had Rekkles xd.. its just fact that Fnatic looked as good as G2, sometimes even more clean.. even tho G2 still a little bit better team

    • @jcr1766
      @jcr1766 5 месяцев назад

      ​​@@eidamgouda0609i love how everything you say is a straight up lie lol
      No they didnt look as good as G2 at worlds, its not even close and G2 was already worse than the rest of the year
      No they didnt upgrade sup, or at the very least it remains to be seen and I have no faith, also sup wasnt the problem in Summer
      No Winter wasnt their only bad split, Spring was just as shit and while they looked better in Summer I still think that is more attributed to 3 rosters blowing up completely than to them playing massively better, they literally needed 5 games against Mad and only 1 player still plays on that team
      And no they didnt look clean at all lol they made so many mistakes its crazy

  • @tillb287
    @tillb287 5 месяцев назад

    sleeping on sk

  • @guillermo4626
    @guillermo4626 4 месяца назад +1

    Caedrel, with love, do you know why Europe doesn't eat anything at the World Cups? because people think like you and believe that veterans are very good and rookies are not. In the case of the new team formed in Spain, they are not El Yoya's friends, they are those chosen by their coach Melzhet. He is possibly the best coach in Europe and his ethic and way of working is the key. It shows that you only know about the old LEC and nothing about ERLs. This is going to be fun....it will be difficult at first but we are going to conquer you and you are going to change the way you see the rosters. Friends are over.

    • @vedantgupta2145
      @vedantgupta2145 4 месяца назад

      uhh even if thats the case there's no way any team with 4 rookies can win anything in their first year.

    • @davidsanjuan9477
      @davidsanjuan9477 4 месяца назад

      No one is talking about win someting, but literally all french and randoms like caedreal wanting to suck french dicks are putting KC on High ranks and MAD on the last one JAJAJAJ thats the problem no one is talking about win but MAD is a good team, if someone put top 10 is literally because he dont see ERLS@@vedantgupta2145

  • @lowernineswitch
    @lowernineswitch 4 месяца назад

    Kcorp needs nemesis

  • @Darr1071
    @Darr1071 4 месяца назад

    Bottom teams:
    10. SK
    9. VIT
    8. TH
    7. Mad
    6. BDS

  • @FantomMind
    @FantomMind 4 месяца назад

    They left Photon out to dry. :'(

  • @ornythorinquepasanonyme1523
    @ornythorinquepasanonyme1523 4 месяца назад

    plz hide the chat at this point

  • @CocytusCrowley
    @CocytusCrowley 4 месяца назад

    Also MAD is dead last. Mark my word.

  • @TheRealGuSty
    @TheRealGuSty 5 месяцев назад +6

    I think Rogue were the clear offseason winners, seems weird to not rate them higher.
    Edit: Understand the reasoning tbf, but to me Rogue looks very strong individually, and personally I don't see any real playstyle clashes from the players. Maybe Zoelys is a question mark, that's about it though I think.

  • @theboyfromnowhere4300
    @theboyfromnowhere4300 4 месяца назад

    FNC
    TH
    G2
    RGE/KC/VIT/BDS
    GIA/SK/MAD
    I put G2 3rd coz that 0-2 vs NRG is still haunting me.
    For me I would even put them LAST only for that absolutely trash ass lost to NRG.

  • @lgtsheep81
    @lgtsheep81 4 месяца назад +1

    KC more like KFC

  • @SHIVAMKUMAR-cw7bt
    @SHIVAMKUMAR-cw7bt 5 месяцев назад

    Hey there twitch🤚🤚🤚🤚

  • @Kretanus
    @Kretanus 4 месяца назад

    G2 Winter? With Yikes and Mikyx? Doubt....

  • @CrazyFias
    @CrazyFias 5 месяцев назад +1

    G2 is a german orga not spanish

  • @antonbelyaev8295
    @antonbelyaev8295 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hi twitch chat

  • @KaramelLife
    @KaramelLife 5 месяцев назад +1

    g2 is sO gewD tHey even Beat t1

  • @haisess7888
    @haisess7888 5 месяцев назад

    Catedral

  • @Megaloblocks
    @Megaloblocks 4 месяца назад +1

    The sugar coating got annoying so glad you stopped that❤

  • @ponglenis9273
    @ponglenis9273 5 месяцев назад +3

    KCorp is gonna implode. They don’t have a good team, and upset doesn’t thrive in average teams.

  • @TheMoshix
    @TheMoshix 5 месяцев назад

    Hide your daughters cadreal is here