What really broke my heart with Taeyong was during a fansign when they just debuted with T7S, no one was in his line to get his autograph after the scandal broke out. It was raining back then and he even kept on wiping his table with his sleeves just so that if anyone comes to get his signature, it will not get wet due to the rain. He maintained his smile all throughout that...until one kind NCTzen finally approached him and gave him a white rose and told him to cheer up and got his signature. There was even a photo of him receiving that rose with the biggest smile. 🥺💚🥺
I heard this story once and it absolutely broke my heart, the people who falsely accused them need to be sued, Maybe even jail time for the serious accusations with no evidence, otherwise this is going to keep happening and destroying their career and happiness. Not only in NCT, but all of kpop
@@yellowflower6190 I feel like there were video clips of the fansign, but I’m not sure if they captured the moment the kind NCTzen gave him the rose. I only saw pictures of that moment when the NCTzen was handing him the rose and Taeyong looked so happy.
NCT are incredibly talented hard working Vocalists singers dancers and performers deserve to be supported for their talents and personalities by the fandom and the media especially on social media sites. SM entertainment need to do a much better job to protect these boys from false statements remarks rumors and Malicious comments being said towards them.
true. they are only getting bigger and bigger and yet they are constantly put down for "noise music" which is bs. there are so many unbelievably talented members and the group is only getting larger, 23+ members so i fear that this will only keep going in the future. i really hope they stay happy and healthy they are so great and seem so kind. i hate seeing this bad stuff about them!!
@@tiredaf807 what? Of what? I doubt it. I mean really if you look at all the vocals in this group it’s seriously great singers. Plus, if you don’t like them then don’t listen. Simple.
@@tiredaf807 also barely chart? Nct dream today has an all kill. (Glitch mode album) Top 3 spots on melon. And nct 127 charted like crazy with sticker.
Exactly a different universe and the fact that they have many members make it even mroe fun... Especially that the members are so different fork each other.. So it's hard to choose a bias 😭😭
so true when we say NCT is a city ,its trueee, statitics of our fandom and NCT is so unique and feels like we are really in a different world with NCT , Its so funnnnnn
1 thing that I don't like about SM is that they neglect their artists, doesn't promote well and sabotage them. Idk what's with them but that's a big problem. Thank goodness fans are so dedicated on supporting and loving the artists
exactly. EXO is the biggest example. SM sabotages them and forgets that they are the biggest and most popular group that they ever had and EXO will always be the most successful group of their company.
EXACTLY aespa is thriving but the amount of hate they get is BONKERS chen(if im correct) getting married, they shouldve defended him or somethink like the korean public is just so scary they can really ruin your career by a stupid comment
@@AsterisSleeping that's the thing I also wonder a lot. Two of their idol gave up there life but still they don't do anything to protect other artists!
it's funny because even if the scandal isn't true, sm will still make their idols apologize and act like its true to avoid controversy and putting in effort to keep their idols safe.
I also noticed this. SM always makes their artists apologise, regardless of investigation or clarification, their first move everytime a rumour becomes a scandal is to apologise (either they admit it or simply apologize to in some trouble). I feel like SM does this to make a impression of innocence and moral or whatever like that to K-Netz
That's why it sucks because instead of letting their artists defend themselves or share their side story, they let them to apologize in which some fans think they are guilty about the issue.
SM should really protect their artist. Their artists are being shown as bad, and sm instead of defending are saying them to apologize which kind of make people think its true . Fans are the ones who is proving it wrong,and not the company
I know our boys went through a lot in the past ( especially Tyong) and I know things are not so good now ( I want Lucas back as soon as possible 😢 I miss him so much, it's already been more than 7 months without him) but no matter what I want them to know that they always have a large field of Grasses (Czennies) supporting and cheering them both in their good times and bad times. I love my boys so much.
Am so proud of NCT they really paved their own way in this industry... From being the boy group with many members to one of the best selling boy groups.. And from sm rookies to who they're today!!! Am so happy I became a fan of them.. It's one of the best things that happened to me
lol their own way? i dont know bout that but sure why not ..... lets forget how they are literally from the biggest company and say they paved their "own way"
@@evahbelinciaga5535 They forged their OWN path, SM didn't pay people to like them, no one did. NCT delivered and people became interested. Simple as that. So yes, they did pave their own way.
@@viikymon2178 i never said they didnt have any contributions....i just stated how they had a humongous advantage over other groups just becoz of their company...i love the boysss and am a mini Nctzen so theres no negativity in my heart for them ...at the same time i will acknowledge how they are a priviledged group more so than those from smaller companies
nct announces that they will release a comeback: wassup- a classmate that was in the same school with the members 11 years ago: *let me introduce myself*
Taeyong to this day is still dragged by those rumours and it’s so sad. on live he actually said he was bullied in school and it just hurt to see, that for the longest time people accused him of doing something he actually suffered from the other point of view. he deserves the biggest apology.
I don’t really know how people believed this A kid who accepted to audition in SM when they gave him a bread Just to show how innocent he was How can he even think of all these??😭
@@Mintadicko sometimes people already don’t like certain idols or have prejudices against some groups, so they take the chances when there’s excuses to hate.
With all these scandals and hates, I'm really worried about the boys' mental health. Be strong fellow Czennies!! Those haters won't prevail if we remain strong. Always remember to shower the boys with love.. 💚💚💚
I worry of who is next target? the haters seem to target the faces of NCT Taeyong Lucas Jaehyun Jaemin.. but Lucas got the biggest scandal, no matter how fabricated it appears with no real evidence, and he is still in hiatus I hope they are all in good health both mentally and physically, couldn't imagine how terrible they felt having to apologize for something they didn't do, and unable to defend or say anything when things got so messed up
I'm not even a nctzen but even I'm very skeptical of the timing and truthfulness of all these scandals. I'm sure there are some other companies making use of SM's lack of action to protect their own artists.
As far as I know, SM investigated all of Taeyong’s allegations. Regarding that first bullying scandal, SM investigated it and when it was proven to be false by Taeyong’s school records, former teachers, and former classmates, SM asked Taeyong if he would like to press charges against Accuser A. Taeyong declined saying that Accuser A is the same age as him and he does not want to ruin Accuser A’s life by pressing charges. However, that was a wrong move because Accuser A did not stop. After 3 years, Accuser A resurfaced again to accuse Taeyong of school bullying during the SuperM’s debut and promotions. This time, it’s not even SM who cleared Taeyong’s name, but Dispatch. They posted the edited and real screenshots of Taeyong’s conversations with his classmates. After that, Accuser A finally stopped. This time, SM asked Taeyong again if he would like to press charges and finally Taeyong agreed because it was clear that Accuser A will not stop harassing him unless he was handled legally. Finally, Taeyong revealed the whole truth in his solo v-live that he was actually the one being bullied in school and it even came to point where the bullying got so bad that in order to recuperate, Taeyong opted to stay with his grandparents when he was a kid in order to better his mental health. Taeyong even said in one of his solo v-live again that if cursing him relieves his haters’ stress in life, he said he would be fine with it because that’s part of his job as an idol. Taeyong is really strong, but as TyongFs, we still worry about him and after everything that happened with him, we just wanted to protect him. He deserves all the love that he gets and all the happiness in this world. Just like how he makes his fans happy, I hope that his fans make him happy, too. I hope that he knows how loved he is.
When Taeyong returned to Korea on October 11, 2021 KST after promoting with SuperM in the United States, he finally sat down with in the meeting reportedly arranged by Wikitree. According to Wikitree, the two faced each other for the first time in a decade. shed tears, while they sat in silence for nearly an hour. After calmed down, Taeyong bowed his head in apology - admitting his past wrongdoings. It has been a long time since I saw my friends…and I am upset that I had to reunite with over something like this. Honestly, I have never felt at ease since then. Every day, dozens of times, I look back and think ‘why was I like that?’ and deeply regret. - Taeyong Please don't be that naive lol S.korea have a lot of bullying cases that constantly being ignored by school especially those parents with a lot power and money
@@aidentan6547 Yes he apologized to his classmates and his classmates forgave him for his immature comments before. Still does not change the fact that Accuser A edited the screenshots of Taeyong’s convo with his classmates after the meeting. It was even revealed that the motive behind all of these was to exploit him for money. Taeyong paid for his classmates’ mental health consultations even. But still, the accuser who was not even the victim was still asking for money. And to your point of the “so many bullying not getting noticed in SK because of powerful families”, Taeyong was bullied, too. So let’s not negate that fact, too. And in this case, someone who was not even the “victim” tried to exploit him for money by using this bullying scandal.
“If cursing him relieves his haters stress in life, he said he would be fine with it” I’m gonna cry 😭 Taeyongie is not a punching bag that ppl can throw harsh words at 💔 I hope he changes that mindset :( No one i swear no one not even us is allowed to throw bad words to others 🥺
@@aidentan6547 so what does that have to do with all this being said? Taeyong is the one being bullied he even revealed the truth about it on his old vlive, that accusser is the one just asking for money & kept harrassing him. All rumours are totally fake, sadly its normal how idols & celebrities get falsely accused when their popularity rise..
Taeyong extremely popular even before debut..the haters obviously trying so hard to bring him down. NCT is a big group with many solo fandom. Some solo fandom also sabotage other members too..the inner fandom war exist
Yeah even before knowing and understanding the entire story people will start hating idols and even without proof they are ready to take the so called victim's side
I'm just happy that Winwin is finally getting his dream come true. he already finished his first drama filming and is now already preparing for a 2nd one. He must have amazing skills to get the next so quickly. His opening a studio was one of the best decisions ever. I wonder how long will it take for ten projects to finally finish. I hope he is doing well after knowing how Label V has neglected him. Xiaojun, Yangyang, Hendery, and Kun r back home spending a good time and that's all it matters. I really hope we can have a comeback really soon and I can't wait to see Winwin and Ten back together with WayV. Edit: Forgot to mention, Winwin has been getting a lot of endorsement and brand deals which is also amazing. I hope sooner or later, he can be a brand ambassador of a famous brand as a Chinese representative.
I hope you are not part of Winwin's toxic solo stans I noticed you skip Lucas's name, in your hope expression for WayV comeback, and any real Wayzennies is OT7 because WayV are 7, and WayV is family always p/s: Winwin's solo stans in China play a great part in smearing Lucas's name and sabotaging him, as they blamed him for almost everything especially since Lucas started to be more popular than Winwin in China (thanks to Keep Running) Chinese Winwin stans also blaming Lucas for making Winwin's "lose opportunity" because of Lucas, and thinking that Winwin only has opportunity now because Lucas is in hiatus, but *this is not true since Winwin's studio actually set up BEFORE Lucas's scandal and hiatus, and Winwin and Lucas both* have multiple brand endorsement together because they were both in China last year (they both even missed Kick Back promotion in Korea) and focused on their solo works in China last year.. in July 2021 when Lucas chosen to represent Gucci, Winwin appears in Louis Vuitton Winwin and Lucas are roommates and best friends, they are fond of each other Winwin even gifted Lucas an expensive Cartier ring that Lucas is so proud of having from his hyung, it is sad that many Winwin's solo stans became haters of Lucas I hope that Lucas, Winwin and Ten can join WayV back soon, and all 7 of WayV are able to make a triumphant comeback
@@leedongwok86 I really do hope Lucas is okay. He was the member that got me into WayV and I do want him to continue to do what he loves plus I am still waiting for Jalapeño. SM is is terrible at protecting their artist, especially when it comes to artists that come from China. They need to be sue pd or something for this mistreatment.
stanning NCT and choosing them as my faves were one of the best things i ever did going thru the struggles together was also what made us NCT and NCTZENS strong and if i was to restart my life , i'd do it all again for them
I feel sorry for all of them especially Taeyong.. He got a lot of hatred even though he haven't debuted yet.. He got into lot of scandals and what's more people always call him scary without knowing / stan him.. He also said that in one of his live (if I'm not mistaken) he sometimes remembered those moments and felt very sad about it 😭.. I really hope that SM will protect their artist more AS THEY SHOULD
The thing is that Haechan is a fan of many ggs..and this shows from how he knows many ggs choreos very well lmao He could be just an itzy fan.. Especially that there's no picture or event catching them together
This NCT's issues are either made by bored netizens or sasaengs. And the fact that I got to know NCT ( tho I already knew T.Y before ) specifically WayV because of the sasaeng stalking scandal happened during the filming of their WayVision S2. LC, KUN, and Xiaojun were furious about the incident and they even addressed the issue on bbl. SM definitely need to protect their money makers.
Some legitimately think the accusations against Lucas are real and there’s discourse between people on whether you should even support him or not. It’s not fun seeing the people bringing it up when it’s not even proven that he did it.
@@benminer7071 those who thinks the accusations are unreal are based on the anonymous identities of the accusers, their unverified identities and stories, the suspicious timing and of course the obviously fabricated "evidences" but those who thought the accusations are real are simply based wholly on the apology letter (which ironically very similar to Taeyong's) and their assumptions of Lucas's behavior based on the portrayal by the anonymous accusers, and that "men are trash" thinking and many Kpop fandom consist of mindless teenagers/immature kids they can't handle complex thinking, or even the thought of possibility of their idol "boyfriends" having sex and relationship, and the moment someone accused their idols of those, it shatters the perfect boyfriend image and they felt cheated on, an it is already too painful to handle the immature fans already know they can't have the idols in real life, but they can still dream about them and acted like they own these idols as these idols served them and feed them the fantasy; so the accusations, whether it is true or not (even worse when it got into big scandal) is too hurtful to be neglected and it really ruined the fantasy the hardcore fans are having with their idols "boyfriend" truth is the fans can always choose to have someone else as idols, it is not uncommon to see fans jumping from one "boyfriend" to another or move from one bias to another once the idols image is ruined for the fans, that's it
WayV is suffering a lot since these rumors/lies about Lucas came. I hate SM for doing nothing against people who shared FAKE information about Lucas because it would be so easy to take these rumors down. But they choose to ignore and put Lucas on hiatus. WayV is the most underated NCT group. My favorite Unit. And it hurts SO BAD seeing them being neglected by SM just because they are a chinese group. WayV always give 100% of them in every performance but it's been a year since a 0T7 comeback!!?!?! WayV has been losing fans because of their innactivity and even them are realizing that and always apologize for being inactive!?!?!?! Label V, which you can consider it was only created to promote and manager WayV, said "they have nothing to do with WayV" !?!? Sorry but we are freaking out.
Dear NCT,don't try too hard to be number 1 because you'll always be my one. From SM rookies to being one of the biggest boygroup,from being SM's failure to being million sellers,it took them 5 years where they are now. They were from SM but they never had it easy,people always crticising their music and now their music is their own genre NEO. From predebut,there were rumors about Taeyong which were proven false,he was being bullied all this time and finally said the truth after 5 years, their first fanmeeting had only 8 fans, 16 years old Mark was dealing with 127,Dream's activities,his school and highschool rapper show,he used to go to bed at 3am,then back to his schedule in the morning,Taeil dropped out of university' for his dream,Johnny trained and stayed away from his family for almost 10 years. I've found myself smiling when thinking about them,how they are a big family,how they cling on to each other and always have each others back. NCT is a big part of my life.
NCT is that group who despite being from the big 3 had to pave their own way ...they literally started from 0 and got where they are rn with their hardwork and talent and these judgemental and jobless people keep trying to bring them down and since SM is shitty they won't protect them ...but we NCTzens always will stay by their side
I'm so proud of my babies, no matter what anyone says. They've done a lot of hard work. And pre debut or post debut, idols are only humans. SM really should take care of their artists better. I hope they get more recognition and love in the future. All of them deserve the world.
Please bring Lucas back already. I'm certainly not his biggest fan, but he doesn't deserve this crap. Unfortunately, I think part of the reason it is taking him so long to come back is that China is cracking down on celebrities right now and SM is determined to not have WayV as a group be canceled in a country that racks up a lot of money for them. Somebody timed this whole thing really well!
@@nanalingo he's not innocent because you want to believe he did something that horrible, not because he actually did it. If yall can't tell by know that this is literally just another false scandal but unfortanately someone decided to accuse him of something that they know people would believe, then God help you. The fvcked up thing abt this is that they KNEW people would believe a SA accusation and decided to manipulate people and act like he did something when in reality its a stalker that's mad because she's not getting attention from him. I know a true SA accusation and case when I see one and this isn't one of them. This stuff actually happens to people all the time so teh fact that they would lie and ruin someone's repuation for their own personal benefit is beyond evil and heartless
@@bbinst4r his members are there for him NCT is a family and i believe that he’s doing ok 🥹 I hope he will be back for Wayv next cm(if they have one😞) If SM don’t let him cm we will blow up SM building 😤
I honestly am sure that these are sabotages because one time i saw a group of people from a kpop fandom (not ganna say which one not to create anymore tension) talking about creating a controversy right before NCT’s comeback because i quote « they (NCT) were getting too famous and were starting to threaten their group’s popularity ». And as if by chance the during the comeback there were controversies on the same things the people from the other fandom were talking about. I think it is sad that kpop has become like this, people are always fighting about which group is better or which group deserves a win when we should just enjoy music and respect each other. People should also respect their idol’s privacy and their own choice of living life (smoking, drinking or being in a relationship). Idol’s are human too if you don’t like them their music or their habits, just don’t pay attention to them instead of being problematic and annoying. Grow up!
2:35 sounds familar with the situation surrounding lucas and people still waiting on an official statement that we aren't gonna get. The only reason people are cancelling him and stuff is because SA is a serious accusation so ofc its natural for people to just believe it without fact checking. These scandals have happened with NCT so many times and people still act like we can rely on SM to do their job. The false accusations made against NCT members is so common so I'm a bit surprised as to why people are still acting like Lucas did somethig wrong just becasue SM made him apologize for something he didn't do. Istg the lack of braincells some of them have...
Despite those false accusations and scandals its so amazing that Taeyong and other members of NCT are strong. Hope Lucas comes back soon . NCT getting popular and getting recognition ain't getting digested by those nasty haters. Well well no matter what they say no matter what they do we gon RESONATE RESONATE
NCT members are insanely talented..and they're hella popular so haters will always try to bring them down.. thankfully NCT still stands strong and remains talented as always... proud of them
Even if all those scandals are true imma still stan them because of they're talent .....guys none of us are angels please everyone hav done stuff in their life that is worst then this so yeah
definitely not bad timing SM has the worst management in the big3. They always mistreat NCT. And the so called evidences for rumours are ridiculous, like you coincidentally say the same word and you are dating. Like what????
That’s why nowadays, NCTzens remind each other to not believe in any scandal that might come up especially when a subunit is making a comeback. It’s very fishy.
NCT IS a problematic group with many ignorant members. don't even try to defend them. Every single artist/celebrity have their flaws and even the most/less famous artists/celebrities have flaws.
@@aydenwishmaker2811 Go get eye surgery. this video is only about NCT and this comment specifically mentioned NCT and you expect me to say all artists r problematic and not to specify that NCT as well is problematic?? of course, NCT fan trying to sabotage and gaslight the fact. Read my fucking comment again before making another comment
Wow this is insane tbh. But also kinda sad that this pattern happens & yet people are still so quick to believe anything that pops up about an NCT member when it's close or right after a comeback. I 100% thought the Lucas stuff was suspicious how it popped up right before Jalapeño (but ppl shouted me & others down); after watching this it's like c'mon. And it sorta just happened again for Dream w/ those smoking pics. Sheesh.
I personally think these accusations against them are made by fans of other K-pop groups, who dislike NCT cause of their success. Because NCT has multiple sub units it means they are always releasing songs and always having comebacks and other fans may dislike it cause they’re idols might not be doing as well as them so they sabotage them and tarnish their reputation by spreading false accusations and doing as soon as they have a comeback.
@@Kpopviralvideos wtf? I’m not insecure and why did you suddenly make this about me? I’m talking about those nasty fans who tarnish other idols reps for either the stupidest reasons or no reason at all. You could’ve stated your opinion without attacking me because you don’t agree with me.
@@KpopviralvideosIf you’re gonna argue about this and include me despite the fact that I’m not included in the topic at least be original and don’t use an excuse such as “You’re insecure” cause my comment showed no signs of me being insecure :|
@@Kpopviralvideos girl i ve stanning them since 2017 and i ve seen many exols hating on them bcs sm does not care about exo much after nct debuted and they think exo better then why sm spending money on this group. on the other hand its obvious some armys hate nct too since debut remember firetruck era? they were saying nct copying bts fire. regular era when they debuted in us? they were saying its not kpop anymore its american pop some months later their favs did the same thing and they were praising them lmao and many other things i cant remember
This is why I will never survive as a K-pop idol. If I looked the wrong way at someone when I was a kid, I’d probably be accused of bullying, too, after I debut.
I remember a time when kun & xiaojun was asked who cried the most among them (wav) both of them laugh and said "lucas!". MAYBE it's after gaslighting scandal? or just because Lucas is always softie that cries if he got hurt a little. I don't remember
People behind some of NCT's scandals know that no one (especially SM) will touch them or take legal actions. It's actually ridiculous. They're literally the future of SM as far as boy groups go, why wouldn't SM want to protect them? Instead SM makes them apologize for things they didn't even do. SM are you smart?
I am nctzen and i know how talented these boys are and that's why these companies and fans are so insecure about them. Just wait NCT era has just started u will see they will make big in the future 😭 fighting my boys 💚
I hate how these big companies just choose to ignore the scandals, leave it on hold. In nct's lucas situation, whether he comes back or not, I know they'll just post their decision through a letter and pretend nothing ever happened. This is the case with most of their other scandals. I would like invisibility in their processes, which they obviously wouldn't do. SM is great at making unique concepts which makes their artists popular but they're terrible with handling their artists.
SM should protect their artist .I hate the facts that SM are simply making their artist to apologize even if they are not at false and not trying to clear the scandal whether it's truth or not
Lets also not forget about the "scandal" of a saesang hacking into dreams icloud and leaking a photo of dreams 00 line showing the middle finger from 2018 BEFORE the nct 2021 comeback ITS ALWAYS BEFORE COMEBACKS
My heart is broken when Taeyong say this on his live "If you wish to relieve us stress by saying bad things about me I'm totally fine with that I think it's a role of an Idol". 💔 Taeyong is a good person I've ever seen in my entire life he deserved all the love he's very work hard It's not easy to take care 22members but taeyong really love his member and he's really take care his member In Kpop Industry I've never seen like Taeyong .
Just people are jealous of them because some fandoms are scared that NCT will gain more popularity than their favs... And SM ent needs to protect their idols because all they do is force the boys to apologize for something they have never done...
It's honestly really refreshing to see somebody adress the gaslighting scandal as what it is. A baseless accusation. I've been on tiktok a lot over quarantine and i've gotten so much hate for saying openly that i still support & like Lucas. almost every single accusation has been debunked by now and people want to "support the victims" but there are no victims and by now they should know it better than anyone else.
i think there’s probably a bit of an attempt to sabotage them. it’s happened far too many times to be a coincidence. it’s kinda expected that they’ll keep getting these scandals as they get bigger, especially considering the success they have. i’m glad that there are still so many people by their side though, they really deserve the world
I wouldn't be surprised if people from other fandoms are the ones creating these controversies. From fandoms, or even people who are just antis, this is getting tiresome for nctzens. I can only imagine how the members themselves feel every time this happens smh
One thing that needs to stop is the labels not backing up their artists. These idols are making them a ton of money. The least they could do would be to wait, investigate and then release a statement instead of making their idols apologize for obviously bogus accusations. Also, I wouldn't doubt if other companies try to sabotage. BUT there are a lot of really pathetic people out there who want their 15mins of fame and would definitely concoct some BS story right before a debut so they can get the attention they crave.
whats worse is that even if the lucas gas lighting scandal was true ive seen so many people make it out to be so much worse saying that hes a rapist and other horrible things. the rumors were bad but the antis made it so much worse and even when i showed them that theres proof hes innocent they ignored it and still tell everyone that hes an awful person
All I want to know is that why do people starting sending death threats and hate without knowing the facts. Like bro if you have idols or group you support go buy their albums, go stream their songs AND LIVE YOUR OWN FUCKING LIFE AND MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS instead of doing shitty things like this. Literally go get a life.
It's kinda funny how a lot of SM's groups started as being called 'failures' or 'dissapointments' and always received merciless attacks but they always end up thriving and gain their own stable following who enjoy what they do
Honestly at this point I wanna hear jalapeño sooo bad. I mean what was so bomb in that song that "people" got afraid of its success and came up with wholleee gaslighting issue.
nah. they're getting bigger and bigger everytime they come back and it's natural that the haters are growing a population too. The most important thing is that they still remained humble despite their growing fame and that displays their true nature.
for the itaewon thing, they all had upcoming schedule, ->jaehyun (nct) had the repackage of punch in like 2 days ->mingyu (svt) had hit the road (their documentary about their tour) starting to be aired on the next 2 days ->bts too were near a comeback and about to announce a upcoming release -
Ryujin and Haechan dating rumor was so stupid in my opinion. Nowadays idols can’t even like other groups ( if they are not the same gender and same company maybe) cause people will jump with “dating” conclusions Honestly I think Haechan reacted this way, because he was aware of it + he didn’t want to be included in any drama or fanwars.
I’ve been trying to get into NCT and it’s really messy, their music are bops but it’s not only 23 members (and counting), but it’s also really difficult because scandals are possibly popping up.
I'll ignore the scandals part but it's not that hard to get to know all the members... Just start with one subunit and go on And yes watching their moments will help more than watching guides or mvs... Ages positions and so on you can get to know all of that thru time just start with basic infos You gonna have fun they're so funny and talented
@@CarlyGayJepsen Right when I started getting into them the Lucas scandal blew up and it was weird cause he was my bias at the time, but I wanted to remain neutral until more information came out. Now it’s more im trying to figure out the subunits one at a time
That's completely understandable from a fans point of view but I would simply say just do your research and come to your own conclusions (instead of just relying on hearsay) but that's only if you really care about it. In any case, completely your choice ♥️♥️
@@multistan9650 i get it but don’t you think it’s a bit ridiculous that all those scandals only came around the time an artist is about to do a comeback? That can not be a coincidence especially since “””the victims””” get exposed for lying every single time not to mention the amount of time sm made their artists apologize for something they never did. In my opinion if you wanna support an artist support them for who they are not how they’re represented by their company i’m sure you’re a kpop stan so you’d know how companies control idols and present them in anyway they want without permission from the idols themselves. I honestly only found out about nct after the scandals and not because I believed them but because of how absolutely ridiculous they are i don’t think I witnessed any kpop group that gets so many false accusations before and I started stanning them after i saw the way the members handle the situation and still strive to do what they do best which is make music and interact with their fans.
This is the first time ever I agree with Kookielit..U GO GIRL you put the words right off our mouths.. and lets not forget about Jaehyun's anticipated drama-of-the-year that got ruined just A DAY before the official broadcast and the movie that got cancelled before even shooting..not to mention all the smoking allegation of NCT members recently after NCT 2021 success. There's also those things about SM and their sub-company artists which might or might not be related: - KeyEast actor Ji Soo's bullying scandal (few episodes after the release of his first lead actor gig) - ESteem model Park Yuri just when he started gaining popularity in Produce x 101 - AOA bullying scandal at the peak of their career, especially Jimin and Seolhyun (AOA is under FNC Ent.) - TVXQ Yunho ruin of his public image after his successful solo comeback, plus his alleged involvement with Seo Yeji - Red Velvet Irene's accusation of mistreating staffs few weeks before their supposed comeback and RV's "rude behavior to flight attendants" that recently got debunked - Aespa's halfbaked and obviously rushed predebut rumors which is obviously not-so-well-thought off as Taeyong's, because SM finally made the smart move of not revealing the final lineup before official debut. Look how they targeted the SMRookies girls Goeun and Lami because they were anticipated as the next "it" girls at the time. If they debut in Aespa, all hell will break loose as they have already build the the dirty storyline beforehand. - and many more... It's almost like an inside joke among SM stans nowadays "if there's a scandal, means comeback is near" lol
I love NCT and they are a multi talented and multi cultural group. They are truly one of a kind. Sadly with lots of popularity comes with lots of hate. That happens with everyone. I hope people take rumors with a grain of salt unless there is evidence. SM needs to treat their artists better!
This is why i have a lot of anxiety while stanning SM artist, they are all experience this when they are on top, just why? The timing always when they're about comeback or on promotion. Recently, red velvet also have rumors too after they are comeback. I hope sm artist be more strong physically and mentally , and the companies be more capable to protect their artist
So the baseline of this video is that people seem to have too much free time and that SM is useless in protecting their idols, sadly we knew that before. I don’t expect much from this xenophobic mess that calls itself a kpop company. Thanks god they have talented artists because otherwise they would never get away with it. Imma go back streaming Glitch Mode, because this topic gets me actually mad.
For real, these haters would literally just dig so deep in an idol's life and just straight up insult them for calling someone ugly when they were 5 💀💀💀
All these lies annoyed me but the lies about Lucas has made a lot of kpop tweeps to hate him and Taeyong especially. It's so sad to see. I know some might say I have no say because I'm a multistan but I just want all my kpop girl groups and boy groups to be happy and safe
Nct is one of the best boy groups who give us real stage performance, they vocals, they visual, they choreography, they corisma, they expressions, and they handsome handsomely looks are always on point, since debut NCT comebacks were always successful.....they are worthy of the titles, awards and all the success that comes their way #NctZen #GlitchMood
I've seen people on social media who's spreading rumors and false information against SM and their artists every single day but SM doesn't even try to do something about it. What's the use of being a big company with lots of lawyers and tons of money when they don't even protect their artists or their company by suing someone who is spreading rumors against them? They have mercy on people who spread rumors to their artists but not to their own artists who makes money for them.😏It's competition and it's business Sm is a big company and competitors will always want to drag who's big and at the top. Look how SM antis succeeded by spreading hate against their artists and company people just believe everything without checking facts about it, bet their competitors are enjoying it while their own artists are suffering apologizing publicly and even took hiatus and later will found out it's a false rumor.
Me literally screaming in anger watching this ,cuz m mad that after all this SM still freaking lacks in taking proper care of the idols , ughhhh idk if m mad at this idiotic toxic people trying to put nct into Scandals or SM n its poor management
Taeyong faced many horrible things n hate before n during his debut (more than 6 years). U can see he sometime crying after some iv bcs of the hate comments. He barely smile n act freely like today. U guys can actually know how taeyong feels if u read the lyrics his solo songs : blue, swimming pool n one of his predebut song with dy,
Wasn’t it just in the news that the girl who made up the gaslighting scandal was paid a lot of money from “some big corporation” and her friends had proof of her saying she was paid off. Sounds sus to me and it explains a lot if it’s true.
It’s not bad timing, people are definitely on a mission to try and ruin nct and notice they seem to target some of the most popular members, that’s no coincidence and the fact there’s idiots online who will believe anything without any real proof makes it easy to create allegations/scandals and get away with it especially with sm record of not protecting their artist and making them guilty by default for making them apologize whether their guilty or not and as long as they keep handling things this way the scandals will continue every nct comeback, I feel bad for sm artist cause their worked like slaves only to get no real protection from their company when they need it, they most certainly earned it so sm needs to do better in that regard, I like a lot of sm artist but I ain’t messing with sm no more til they make things right with Lucas, they need to publicly acknowledge the lies and take legal action against those responsible and apologize to Lucas and hendrey for ruining their subunit debut
taeyong suffered so much even before nct debuted. i really admire how he never give up on his dream despite all the negativity around him. also when he cried during their mama roty speech, i feel so bad because he really thought if they didnt bring that trophy home, its _his_ fault. which is isnt true at all.
makes me remember that part in Law School drama where there is a group of people behind the scenes making fake accounts and posting malicious things online
The problem isn't with NCT,
*the problem is with SM*
Louder sis!!!!
Preach
but they are the ones who had the idea, realized it, and introduced it to the public.
@@noocoo9117 the sad thing with double standards👁👄👁
@@noocoo9117 They did but didn't plan it properly which is why it's their fault
What really broke my heart with Taeyong was during a fansign when they just debuted with T7S, no one was in his line to get his autograph after the scandal broke out. It was raining back then and he even kept on wiping his table with his sleeves just so that if anyone comes to get his signature, it will not get wet due to the rain. He maintained his smile all throughout that...until one kind NCTzen finally approached him and gave him a white rose and told him to cheer up and got his signature. There was even a photo of him receiving that rose with the biggest smile. 🥺💚🥺
I heard this story once and it absolutely broke my heart, the people who falsely accused them need to be sued, Maybe even jail time for the serious accusations with no evidence, otherwise this is going to keep happening and destroying their career and happiness. Not only in NCT, but all of kpop
My god, this made me cry. How can they think of taeyong being a bad guy when he's the softest boy ever. Please protect him at all costs.
Is there a video of this?
@@yellowflower6190 I feel like there were video clips of the fansign, but I’m not sure if they captured the moment the kind NCTzen gave him the rose. I only saw pictures of that moment when the NCTzen was handing him the rose and Taeyong looked so happy.
@@Mandozen ahh i see, still how kind of them :(
NCT are incredibly talented hard working Vocalists singers dancers and performers deserve to be supported for their talents and personalities by the fandom and the media especially on social media sites. SM entertainment need to do a much better job to protect these boys from false statements remarks rumors and Malicious comments being said towards them.
Exactly.
Facts
NCT members are all rounders. When you're that successful a lot of hurt people will do everything to bring you down. NCT stay on top.
true. they are only getting bigger and bigger and yet they are constantly put down for "noise music" which is bs. there are so many unbelievably talented members and the group is only getting larger, 23+ members so i fear that this will only keep going in the future. i really hope they stay happy and healthy they are so great and seem so kind. i hate seeing this bad stuff about them!!
of what? Tey can barely chart. sm is probably creating this rumors around cbs to try and make people talk about them
@@tiredaf807 what? Of what? I doubt it. I mean really if you look at all the vocals in this group it’s seriously great singers. Plus, if you don’t like them then don’t listen. Simple.
@@tiredaf807 also barely chart? Nct dream today has an all kill. (Glitch mode album) Top 3 spots on melon. And nct 127 charted like crazy with sticker.
@@kriskeleigh6956 for how long?
nct is the perfect group to stan. talent, humour, goofiness, visuals!!! it’s like a different world in here
Yeah🤧
Exactly a different universe and the fact that they have many members make it even mroe fun... Especially that the members are so different fork each other.. So it's hard to choose a bias 😭😭
Exactly💚
so true when we say NCT is a city ,its trueee, statitics of our fandom and NCT is so unique and feels like we are really in a different world with NCT , Its so funnnnnn
@@meseomemedeeme ncity supremacy 🛐
1 thing that I don't like about SM is that they neglect their artists, doesn't promote well and sabotage them. Idk what's with them but that's a big problem. Thank goodness fans are so dedicated on supporting and loving the artists
exactly. EXO is the biggest example. SM sabotages them and forgets that they are the biggest and most popular group that they ever had and EXO will always be the most successful group of their company.
Fans are better at protecting and promote SM artists than SM
EXACTLY aespa is thriving but the amount of hate they get is BONKERS
chen(if im correct) getting married, they shouldve defended him or somethink like the korean public is just so scary they can really ruin your career by a stupid comment
I hate to be dark so major C/TW
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But how many more artists unaliving will it take for SM to act right.
@@AsterisSleeping that's the thing I also wonder a lot. Two of their idol gave up there life but still they don't do anything to protect other artists!
it's funny because even if the scandal isn't true, sm will still make their idols apologize and act like its true to avoid controversy and putting in effort to keep their idols safe.
I also noticed this. SM always makes their artists apologise, regardless of investigation or clarification, their first move everytime a rumour becomes a scandal is to apologise (either they admit it or simply apologize to in some trouble). I feel like SM does this to make a impression of innocence and moral or whatever like that to K-Netz
That's why it sucks because instead of letting their artists defend themselves or share their side story, they let them to apologize in which some fans think they are guilty about the issue.
they want them to be loved by the public especially the Korean public but they don’t give a sh t about their idols
Which just makes things worse because it makes them look guilty 😭
I mean, other companies make their idols do that to, not only SM.
SM should really protect their artist. Their artists are being shown as bad, and sm instead of defending are saying them to apologize which kind of make people think its true . Fans are the ones who is proving it wrong,and not the company
I know our boys went through a lot in the past ( especially Tyong) and I know things are not so good now ( I want Lucas back as soon as possible 😢 I miss him so much, it's already been more than 7 months without him) but no matter what I want them to know that they always have a large field of Grasses (Czennies) supporting and cheering them both in their good times and bad times. I love my boys so much.
Am so proud of NCT they really paved their own way in this industry... From being the boy group with many members to one of the best selling boy groups.. And from sm rookies to who they're today!!! Am so happy I became a fan of them.. It's one of the best things that happened to me
Say it louder bestie!!
lol their own way? i dont know bout that
but sure why not ..... lets forget how they are literally from the biggest company and say they paved their "own way"
@@evahbelinciaga5535 They forged their OWN path, SM didn't pay people to like them, no one did. NCT delivered and people became interested. Simple as that. So yes, they did pave their own way.
@@viikymon2178 i never said they didnt have any contributions....i just stated how they had a humongous advantage over other groups just becoz of their company...i love the boysss and am a mini Nctzen so theres no negativity in my heart for them ...at the same time i will acknowledge how they are a priviledged group more so than those from smaller companies
Louder bestie 💚
nct announces that they will release a comeback: wassup-
a classmate that was in the same school with the members 11 years ago: *let me introduce myself*
Taeyong to this day is still dragged by those rumours and it’s so sad. on live he actually said he was bullied in school and it just hurt to see, that for the longest time people accused him of doing something he actually suffered from the other point of view. he deserves the biggest apology.
I agree!
I don’t really know how people believed this
A kid who accepted to audition in SM when they gave him a bread
Just to show how innocent he was
How can he even think of all these??😭
@@Mintadicko sometimes people already don’t like certain idols or have prejudices against some groups, so they take the chances when there’s excuses to hate.
@@nacuyong they just have no life clearly.
If you’re not going to support them then don’t hate
It’s really disgusting
@@Mintadicko right, sad people with sad lives
With all these scandals and hates, I'm really worried about the boys' mental health. Be strong fellow Czennies!! Those haters won't prevail if we remain strong. Always remember to shower the boys with love..
💚💚💚
I worry of who is next target?
the haters seem to target the faces of NCT Taeyong Lucas Jaehyun Jaemin.. but Lucas got the biggest scandal, no matter how fabricated it appears with no real evidence, and he is still in hiatus
I hope they are all in good health both mentally and physically, couldn't imagine how terrible they felt having to apologize for something they didn't do, and unable to defend or say anything when things got so messed up
I'm not even a nctzen but even I'm very skeptical of the timing and truthfulness of all these scandals. I'm sure there are some other companies making use of SM's lack of action to protect their own artists.
true! they make profit of sm not taking seriously the accusations
As far as I know, SM investigated all of Taeyong’s allegations. Regarding that first bullying scandal, SM investigated it and when it was proven to be false by Taeyong’s school records, former teachers, and former classmates, SM asked Taeyong if he would like to press charges against Accuser A. Taeyong declined saying that Accuser A is the same age as him and he does not want to ruin Accuser A’s life by pressing charges. However, that was a wrong move because Accuser A did not stop. After 3 years, Accuser A resurfaced again to accuse Taeyong of school bullying during the SuperM’s debut and promotions. This time, it’s not even SM who cleared Taeyong’s name, but Dispatch. They posted the edited and real screenshots of Taeyong’s conversations with his classmates. After that, Accuser A finally stopped. This time, SM asked Taeyong again if he would like to press charges and finally Taeyong agreed because it was clear that Accuser A will not stop harassing him unless he was handled legally. Finally, Taeyong revealed the whole truth in his solo v-live that he was actually the one being bullied in school and it even came to point where the bullying got so bad that in order to recuperate, Taeyong opted to stay with his grandparents when he was a kid in order to better his mental health.
Taeyong even said in one of his solo v-live again that if cursing him relieves his haters’ stress in life, he said he would be fine with it because that’s part of his job as an idol.
Taeyong is really strong, but as TyongFs, we still worry about him and after everything that happened with him, we just wanted to protect him. He deserves all the love that he gets and all the happiness in this world. Just like how he makes his fans happy, I hope that his fans make him happy, too. I hope that he knows how loved he is.
When Taeyong returned to Korea on October 11, 2021 KST after promoting with SuperM in the United States, he finally sat down with in the meeting reportedly arranged by Wikitree.
According to Wikitree, the two faced each other for the first time in a decade. shed tears, while they sat in silence for nearly an hour. After calmed down, Taeyong bowed his head in apology - admitting his past wrongdoings.
It has been a long time since I saw my friends…and I am upset that I had to reunite with over something like this. Honestly, I have never felt at ease since then. Every day, dozens of times, I look back and think ‘why was I like that?’ and deeply regret.
- Taeyong
Please don't be that naive lol S.korea have a lot of bullying cases that constantly being ignored by school especially those parents with a lot power and money
@@aidentan6547 Yes he apologized to his classmates and his classmates forgave him for his immature comments before. Still does not change the fact that Accuser A edited the screenshots of Taeyong’s convo with his classmates after the meeting. It was even revealed that the motive behind all of these was to exploit him for money. Taeyong paid for his classmates’ mental health consultations even. But still, the accuser who was not even the victim was still asking for money.
And to your point of the “so many bullying not getting noticed in SK because of powerful families”, Taeyong was bullied, too. So let’s not negate that fact, too. And in this case, someone who was not even the “victim” tried to exploit him for money by using this bullying scandal.
“If cursing him relieves his haters stress in life, he said he would be fine with it” I’m gonna cry 😭 Taeyongie is not a punching bag that ppl can throw harsh words at 💔 I hope he changes that mindset :( No one i swear no one not even us is allowed to throw bad words to others 🥺
@@aidentan6547 what does that add to the conversation buddy
@@aidentan6547 so what does that have to do with all this being said? Taeyong is the one being bullied he even revealed the truth about it on his old vlive, that accusser is the one just asking for money & kept harrassing him. All rumours are totally fake, sadly its normal how idols & celebrities get falsely accused when their popularity rise..
Taeyong extremely popular even before debut..the haters obviously trying so hard to bring him down.
NCT is a big group with many solo fandom. Some solo fandom also sabotage other members too..the inner fandom war exist
Y'all are so fast to ask for someone to get kicked even before hearing the story from both sides or hearing any clarification :(
Actually the only ones that I see saying that are people who don't even care about what's happening, they just want to make others mad 😐
Yeah even before knowing and understanding the entire story people will start hating idols and even without proof they are ready to take the so called victim's side
I'm just happy that Winwin is finally getting his dream come true. he already finished his first drama filming and is now already preparing for a 2nd one. He must have amazing skills to get the next so quickly. His opening a studio was one of the best decisions ever. I wonder how long will it take for ten projects to finally finish. I hope he is doing well after knowing how Label V has neglected him. Xiaojun, Yangyang, Hendery, and Kun r back home spending a good time and that's all it matters.
I really hope we can have a comeback really soon and I can't wait to see Winwin and Ten back together with WayV.
Edit: Forgot to mention, Winwin has been getting a lot of endorsement and brand deals which is also amazing. I hope sooner or later, he can be a brand ambassador of a famous brand as a Chinese representative.
Really!? I’m so proud of Winwin. Do you know when his drama will come out. He is so talented and he deserves the respect.❤️
Winwin is my favorite member and thanks for posting this. I didn’t know any of this and I’m so proud and happy for him
@@puppyangel4346 release date hasn't been announced yet.
I hope you are not part of Winwin's toxic solo stans
I noticed you skip Lucas's name, in your hope expression for WayV comeback, and any real Wayzennies is OT7 because WayV are 7, and WayV is family always
p/s: Winwin's solo stans in China play a great part in smearing Lucas's name and sabotaging him, as they blamed him for almost everything especially since Lucas started to be more popular than Winwin in China (thanks to Keep Running)
Chinese Winwin stans also blaming Lucas for making Winwin's "lose opportunity" because of Lucas, and thinking that Winwin only has opportunity now because Lucas is in hiatus, but *this is not true since Winwin's studio actually set up BEFORE Lucas's scandal and hiatus, and Winwin and Lucas both* have multiple brand endorsement together because they were both in China last year (they both even missed Kick Back promotion in Korea) and focused on their solo works in China last year.. in July 2021 when Lucas chosen to represent Gucci, Winwin appears in Louis Vuitton
Winwin and Lucas are roommates and best friends, they are fond of each other Winwin even gifted Lucas an expensive Cartier ring that Lucas is so proud of having from his hyung, it is sad that many Winwin's solo stans became haters of Lucas
I hope that Lucas, Winwin and Ten can join WayV back soon, and all 7 of WayV are able to make a triumphant comeback
@@leedongwok86 I really do hope Lucas is okay. He was the member that got me into WayV and I do want him to continue to do what he loves plus I am still waiting for Jalapeño. SM is is terrible at protecting their artist, especially when it comes to artists that come from China. They need to be sue pd or something for this mistreatment.
stanning NCT and choosing them as my faves were one of the best things i ever did
going thru the struggles together was also what made us NCT and NCTZENS strong and if i was to restart my life , i'd do it all again for them
Yasss gurl
Yes indeed💚
Also Their fanchants 😓
True
I feel sorry for all of them especially Taeyong.. He got a lot of hatred even though he haven't debuted yet.. He got into lot of scandals and what's more people always call him scary without knowing / stan him.. He also said that in one of his live (if I'm not mistaken) he sometimes remembered those moments and felt very sad about it 😭.. I really hope that SM will protect their artist more AS THEY SHOULD
i never saw anyone call taeyong scary lmao, he is probably just intimidating because he is very good looking
The thing is that Haechan is a fan of many ggs..and this shows from how he knows many ggs choreos very well lmao He could be just an itzy fan.. Especially that there's no picture or event catching them together
This NCT's issues are either made by bored netizens or sasaengs. And the fact that I got to know NCT ( tho I already knew T.Y before ) specifically WayV because of the sasaeng stalking scandal happened during the filming of their WayVision S2. LC, KUN, and Xiaojun were furious about the incident and they even addressed the issue on bbl. SM definitely need to protect their money makers.
Some legitimately think the accusations against Lucas are real and there’s discourse between people on whether you should even support him or not. It’s not fun seeing the people bringing it up when it’s not even proven that he did it.
@@benminer7071 those who thinks the accusations are unreal are based on the anonymous identities of the accusers, their unverified identities and stories, the suspicious timing and of course the obviously fabricated "evidences"
but those who thought the accusations are real are simply based wholly on the apology letter (which ironically very similar to Taeyong's) and their assumptions of Lucas's behavior based on the portrayal by the anonymous accusers, and that "men are trash" thinking
and many Kpop fandom consist of mindless teenagers/immature kids
they can't handle complex thinking, or even the thought of possibility of their idol "boyfriends" having sex and relationship, and the moment someone accused their idols of those, it shatters the perfect boyfriend image and they felt cheated on, an it is already too painful to handle
the immature fans already know they can't have the idols in real life, but they can still dream about them and acted like they own these idols as these idols served them and feed them the fantasy; so the accusations, whether it is true or not (even worse when it got into big scandal) is too hurtful to be neglected and it really ruined the fantasy the hardcore fans are having with their idols "boyfriend"
truth is the fans can always choose to have someone else as idols, it is not uncommon to see fans jumping from one "boyfriend" to another or move from one bias to another
once the idols image is ruined for the fans, that's it
WayV is suffering a lot since these rumors/lies about Lucas came. I hate SM for doing nothing against people who shared FAKE information about Lucas because it would be so easy to take these rumors down. But they choose to ignore and put Lucas on hiatus.
WayV is the most underated NCT group. My favorite Unit. And it hurts SO BAD seeing them being neglected by SM just because they are a chinese group.
WayV always give 100% of them in every performance but it's been a year since a 0T7 comeback!!?!?! WayV has been losing fans because of their innactivity and even them are realizing that and always apologize for being inactive!?!?!?! Label V, which you can consider it was only created to promote and manager WayV, said "they have nothing to do with WayV" !?!? Sorry but we are freaking out.
we got into dreamies glitch mode era peacefully this year. i want peace and only peace for ncity this year 😭😭
I feel so bad for BuBu 🥺 our precious leaders must be protected
Dear NCT,don't try too hard to be number 1 because you'll always be my one. From SM rookies to being one of the biggest boygroup,from being SM's failure to being million sellers,it took them 5 years where they are now. They were from SM but they never had it easy,people always crticising their music and now their music is their own genre NEO. From predebut,there were rumors about Taeyong which were proven false,he was being bullied all this time and finally said the truth after 5 years, their first fanmeeting had only 8 fans, 16 years old Mark was dealing with 127,Dream's activities,his school and highschool rapper show,he used to go to bed at 3am,then back to his schedule in the morning,Taeil dropped out of university' for his dream,Johnny trained and stayed away from his family for almost 10 years. I've found myself smiling when thinking about them,how they are a big family,how they cling on to each other and always have each others back. NCT is a big part of my life.
I just hope Lucas comes back soon. SM please protect our Lucas and prove his innocence. Bring him back I miss his.
"SM make him apologize when it was proven false"
And we'll see that same story a lot in this timeline
NCT is that group who despite being from the big 3 had to pave their own way ...they literally started from 0 and got where they are rn with their hardwork and talent and these judgemental and jobless people keep trying to bring them down and since SM is shitty they won't protect them ...but we NCTzens always will stay by their side
Say it louder 👏👏👏
I'm so proud of my babies, no matter what anyone says. They've done a lot of hard work. And pre debut or post debut, idols are only humans. SM really should take care of their artists better. I hope they get more recognition and love in the future. All of them deserve the world.
Please bring Lucas back already. I'm certainly not his biggest fan, but he doesn't deserve this crap. Unfortunately, I think part of the reason it is taking him so long to come back is that China is cracking down on celebrities right now and SM is determined to not have WayV as a group be canceled in a country that racks up a lot of money for them. Somebody timed this whole thing really well!
Poor Lucas, I feel for those boys. They have crazy haters and stalker fans
He's not innocent lol
@@nanalingo he's not innocent because you want to believe he did something that horrible, not because he actually did it. If yall can't tell by know that this is literally just another false scandal but unfortanately someone decided to accuse him of something that they know people would believe, then God help you. The fvcked up thing abt this is that they KNEW people would believe a SA accusation and decided to manipulate people and act like he did something when in reality its a stalker that's mad because she's not getting attention from him. I know a true SA accusation and case when I see one and this isn't one of them. This stuff actually happens to people all the time so teh fact that they would lie and ruin someone's repuation for their own personal benefit is beyond evil and heartless
@@bbinst4r I feel so bad for him😞
Our angel
@@Mintadicko ikr I hope he’s doing ok💔
@@bbinst4r his members are there for him
NCT is a family and i believe that he’s doing ok 🥹
I hope he will be back for Wayv next cm(if they have one😞)
If SM don’t let him cm we will blow up SM building 😤
I honestly am sure that these are sabotages because one time i saw a group of people from a kpop fandom (not ganna say which one not to create anymore tension) talking about creating a controversy right before NCT’s comeback because i quote « they (NCT) were getting too famous and were starting to threaten their group’s popularity ». And as if by chance the during the comeback there were controversies on the same things the people from the other fandom were talking about.
I think it is sad that kpop has become like this, people are always fighting about which group is better or which group deserves a win when we should just enjoy music and respect each other.
People should also respect their idol’s privacy and their own choice of living life (smoking, drinking or being in a relationship).
Idol’s are human too if you don’t like them their music or their habits, just don’t pay attention to them instead of being problematic and annoying.
Grow up!
I remember seeing that too 💀💀💀 I was so mad fr 😭😭
@@blueroses4373 same like what do you gain from this ?! It’s only a waste of time
I hope to see Lucas and Hendery's new mv soon. It has passed so many months since the release of the teaser :(
Lucas don't deserve this much hate and 7 months hiatus because of those fake scandals. Lucas deserve better. NCT deserve better
You are right. Way V is 7 and NCT is 23. I can't believe some fans actually believed those scandals.
So true
2:35 sounds familar with the situation surrounding lucas and people still waiting on an official statement that we aren't gonna get. The only reason people are cancelling him and stuff is because SA is a serious accusation so ofc its natural for people to just believe it without fact checking. These scandals have happened with NCT so many times and people still act like we can rely on SM to do their job. The false accusations made against NCT members is so common so I'm a bit surprised as to why people are still acting like Lucas did somethig wrong just becasue SM made him apologize for something he didn't do. Istg the lack of braincells some of them have...
Despite those false accusations and scandals its so amazing that Taeyong and other members of NCT are strong. Hope Lucas comes back soon . NCT getting popular and getting recognition ain't getting digested by those nasty haters. Well well no matter what they say no matter what they do we gon RESONATE RESONATE
NCT members are insanely talented..and they're hella popular so haters will always try to bring them down.. thankfully NCT still stands strong and remains talented as always... proud of them
Even if all those scandals are true imma still stan them because of they're talent .....guys none of us are angels please everyone hav done stuff in their life that is worst then this so yeah
NCT is one of the best K-pop groups out there in the 3th generation.
definitely not bad timing
SM has the worst management in the big3. They always mistreat NCT. And the so called evidences for rumours are ridiculous, like you coincidentally say the same word and you are dating. Like what????
@@arianakhan4347 SAY IT LOUDER SIS
That’s why nowadays, NCTzens remind each other to not believe in any scandal that might come up especially when a subunit is making a comeback. It’s very fishy.
I don't think nct are a problematic group it's the company and the haters that are actually problematic.
NCT IS a problematic group with many ignorant members. don't even try to defend them. Every single artist/celebrity have their flaws and even the most/less famous artists/celebrities have flaws.
Nct is very problematic DONT even start
@@_flora31_ guess what ?? the whole industry is problematic .
stop trying to blame only NCT for it .
@@mae6565 i will start .
@@aydenwishmaker2811 Go get eye surgery. this video is only about NCT and this comment specifically mentioned NCT and you expect me to say all artists r problematic and not to specify that NCT as well is problematic?? of course, NCT fan trying to sabotage and gaslight the fact. Read my fucking comment again before making another comment
I feel so bad for Taeyong :((
Wow this is insane tbh. But also kinda sad that this pattern happens & yet people are still so quick to believe anything that pops up about an NCT member when it's close or right after a comeback. I 100% thought the Lucas stuff was suspicious how it popped up right before Jalapeño (but ppl shouted me & others down); after watching this it's like c'mon. And it sorta just happened again for Dream w/ those smoking pics. Sheesh.
It’s so stupid… like why do they get so many haters?.. 😕
Because NCT is quickly rising to popularity. Haters gonna hate. They'll do anything to bring them down even if it means manufacturing lies.
It's already been 7 months and I just want LC to comeback 🥺🥺🥺🥺
They're so talented and hardworking for sure.
All of SM's apology statements (on behalf of their artists) sound like ctrl+c and ctrl+v
I personally think these accusations against them are made by fans of other K-pop groups, who dislike NCT cause of their success.
Because NCT has multiple sub units it means they are always releasing songs and always having comebacks and other fans may
dislike it cause they’re idols might not be doing as well as them so they sabotage them and tarnish their reputation by
spreading false accusations and doing as soon as they have a comeback.
@@Kpopviralvideos wtf? I’m not insecure and why did you suddenly make this about me? I’m talking about those nasty fans who tarnish other idols reps for either the stupidest reasons or no reason at all. You could’ve stated your opinion without attacking me because you don’t agree with me.
And I never mentioned a specific fandom, just fans in general that might be NCT antis.
@@KpopviralvideosIf you’re gonna argue about this and include me despite the fact that I’m not included in the topic at least be original and don’t use an excuse such as “You’re insecure” cause my comment showed no signs of me being insecure :|
@@Kpopviralvideos girl i ve stanning them since 2017 and i ve seen many exols hating on them bcs sm does not care about exo much after nct debuted and they think exo better then why sm spending money on this group. on the other hand its obvious some armys hate nct too since debut remember firetruck era? they were saying nct copying bts fire. regular era when they debuted in us? they were saying its not kpop anymore its american pop some months later their favs did the same thing and they were praising them lmao and many other things i cant remember
I'm proud of being NCTzen💚💚💚
This is why I will never survive as a K-pop idol. If I looked the wrong way at someone when I was a kid, I’d probably be accused of bullying, too, after I debut.
I remember a time when kun & xiaojun was asked who cried the most among them (wav) both of them laugh and said "lucas!". MAYBE it's after gaslighting scandal? or just because Lucas is always softie that cries if he got hurt a little. I don't remember
People behind some of NCT's scandals know that no one (especially SM) will touch them or take legal actions. It's actually ridiculous. They're literally the future of SM as far as boy groups go, why wouldn't SM want to protect them? Instead SM makes them apologize for things they didn't even do. SM are you smart?
It’s not just NCT it happens to. I’m both an NCTzen and a MBB and I’m in the trenches constantly defending one or the other around comeback time.
I am nctzen and i know how talented these boys are and that's why these companies and fans are so insecure about them. Just wait NCT era has just started u will see they will make big in the future 😭 fighting my boys 💚
I really hope that Lucas will come back soon. His hiatus has been over a year now and I just really hope that he's doing okay.
I hate how these big companies just choose to ignore the scandals, leave it on hold. In nct's lucas situation, whether he comes back or not, I know they'll just post their decision through a letter and pretend nothing ever happened. This is the case with most of their other scandals. I would like invisibility in their processes, which they obviously wouldn't do. SM is great at making unique concepts which makes their artists popular but they're terrible with handling their artists.
SM should protect their artist .I hate the facts that SM are simply making their artist to apologize even if they are not at false and not trying to clear the scandal whether it's truth or not
Lets also not forget about the "scandal"
of a saesang hacking into dreams icloud and leaking a photo of dreams 00 line showing the middle finger from 2018 BEFORE the nct 2021 comeback
ITS ALWAYS BEFORE COMEBACKS
My heart is broken when Taeyong say this on his live
"If you wish to relieve us stress by saying bad things about me I'm totally fine with that I think it's a role of an Idol". 💔
Taeyong is a good person I've ever seen in my entire life he deserved all the love he's very work hard It's not easy to take care 22members but taeyong really love his member and he's really take care his member In Kpop Industry I've never seen like Taeyong .
Just people are jealous of them because some fandoms are scared that NCT will gain more popularity than their favs... And SM ent needs to protect their idols because all they do is force the boys to apologize for something they have never done...
It's honestly really refreshing to see somebody adress the gaslighting scandal as what it is. A baseless accusation. I've been on tiktok a lot over quarantine and i've gotten so much hate for saying openly that i still support & like Lucas. almost every single accusation has been debunked by now and people want to "support the victims" but there are no victims and by now they should know it better than anyone else.
i think there’s probably a bit of an attempt to sabotage them. it’s happened far too many times to be a coincidence. it’s kinda expected that they’ll keep getting these scandals as they get bigger, especially considering the success they have. i’m glad that there are still so many people by their side though, they really deserve the world
I wouldn't be surprised if people from other fandoms are the ones creating these controversies. From fandoms, or even people who are just antis, this is getting tiresome for nctzens. I can only imagine how the members themselves feel every time this happens smh
I feel bad for the NCT members SM should really do a good job with protecting their idols especially NCT
One thing that needs to stop is the labels not backing up their artists. These idols are making them a ton of money. The least they could do would be to wait, investigate and then release a statement instead of making their idols apologize for obviously bogus accusations.
Also, I wouldn't doubt if other companies try to sabotage. BUT there are a lot of really pathetic people out there who want their 15mins of fame and would definitely concoct some BS story right before a debut so they can get the attention they crave.
whats worse is that even if the lucas gas lighting scandal was true ive seen so many people make it out to be so much worse saying that hes a rapist and other horrible things. the rumors were bad but the antis made it so much worse and even when i showed them that theres proof hes innocent they ignored it and still tell everyone that hes an awful person
It's so easy for Nct to get so many accusations bc SM never do anything about it. They make them apologize and don't even care if it was real or not
All I want to know is that why do people starting sending death threats and hate without knowing the facts. Like bro if you have idols or group you support go buy their albums, go stream their songs AND LIVE YOUR OWN FUCKING LIFE AND MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS instead of doing shitty things like this. Literally go get a life.
Sometimes i feel like i wanna slap these accusers so hard that they faint.
yep not even a NCTZEN but I wanna too like total Indian tv show style
@@a.kibria5001 LMAOAOAOA NOT THE INDIAN TV SHOW
And it took so long to people to understand that Lucas scandal was targeted to hate on and destroy the image of NCT
this makes me so mad istg I wouldn’t even be surprised if rumors start popping up tomorrow about any of the dreamies like omfg
It's kinda funny how a lot of SM's groups started as being called 'failures' or 'dissapointments' and always received merciless attacks but they always end up thriving and gain their own stable following who enjoy what they do
Honestly at this point I wanna hear jalapeño sooo bad. I mean what was so bomb in that song that "people" got afraid of its success and came up with wholleee gaslighting issue.
End of march 2022 and still waiting for lucas's comeback . The rumour played real dirty
nah. they're getting bigger and bigger everytime they come back and it's natural that the haters are growing a population too. The most important thing is that they still remained humble despite their growing fame and that displays their true nature.
for the itaewon thing, they all had upcoming schedule,
->jaehyun (nct) had the repackage of punch in like 2 days
->mingyu (svt) had hit the road (their documentary about their tour) starting to be aired on the next 2 days
->bts too were near a comeback and about to announce a upcoming release
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Ryujin and Haechan dating rumor was so stupid in my opinion. Nowadays idols can’t even like other groups ( if they are not the same gender and same company maybe) cause people will jump with “dating” conclusions
Honestly I think Haechan reacted this way, because he was aware of it + he didn’t want to be included in any drama or fanwars.
I’ve been trying to get into NCT and it’s really messy, their music are bops but it’s not only 23 members (and counting), but it’s also really difficult because scandals are possibly popping up.
What’s exactly the scandal that’s keeping you away from supporting them?
I'll ignore the scandals part but it's not that hard to get to know all the members... Just start with one subunit and go on
And yes watching their moments will help more than watching guides or mvs... Ages positions and so on you can get to know all of that thru time just start with basic infos
You gonna have fun they're so funny and talented
@@CarlyGayJepsen Right when I started getting into them the Lucas scandal blew up and it was weird cause he was my bias at the time, but I wanted to remain neutral until more information came out. Now it’s more im trying to figure out the subunits one at a time
That's completely understandable from a fans point of view but I would simply say just do your research and come to your own conclusions (instead of just relying on hearsay) but that's only if you really care about it. In any case, completely your choice ♥️♥️
@@multistan9650 i get it but don’t you think it’s a bit ridiculous that all those scandals only came around the time an artist is about to do a comeback? That can not be a coincidence especially since “””the victims””” get exposed for lying every single time not to mention the amount of time sm made their artists apologize for something they never did. In my opinion if you wanna support an artist support them for who they are not how they’re represented by their company i’m sure you’re a kpop stan so you’d know how companies control idols and present them in anyway they want without permission from the idols themselves. I honestly only found out about nct after the scandals and not because I believed them but because of how absolutely ridiculous they are i don’t think I witnessed any kpop group that gets so many false accusations before and I started stanning them after i saw the way the members handle the situation and still strive to do what they do best which is make music and interact with their fans.
This is the first time ever I agree with Kookielit..U GO GIRL you put the words right off our mouths..
and lets not forget about Jaehyun's anticipated drama-of-the-year that got ruined just A DAY before the official broadcast and the movie that got cancelled before even shooting..not to mention all the smoking allegation of NCT members recently after NCT 2021 success.
There's also those things about SM and their sub-company artists which might or might not be related:
- KeyEast actor Ji Soo's bullying scandal (few episodes after the release of his first lead actor gig)
- ESteem model Park Yuri just when he started gaining popularity in Produce x 101
- AOA bullying scandal at the peak of their career, especially Jimin and Seolhyun (AOA is under FNC Ent.)
- TVXQ Yunho ruin of his public image after his successful solo comeback, plus his alleged involvement with Seo Yeji
- Red Velvet Irene's accusation of mistreating staffs few weeks before their supposed comeback and RV's "rude behavior to flight attendants" that recently got debunked
- Aespa's halfbaked and obviously rushed predebut rumors which is obviously not-so-well-thought off as Taeyong's, because SM finally made the smart move of not revealing the final lineup before official debut. Look how they targeted the SMRookies girls Goeun and Lami because they were anticipated as the next "it" girls at the time. If they debut in Aespa, all hell will break loose as they have already build the the dirty storyline beforehand.
- and many more...
It's almost like an inside joke among SM stans nowadays "if there's a scandal, means comeback is near" lol
I miss Lucas :(
I love NCT and they are a multi talented and multi cultural group. They are truly one of a kind. Sadly with lots of popularity comes with lots of hate. That happens with everyone. I hope people take rumors with a grain of salt unless there is evidence. SM needs to treat their artists better!
This is why i have a lot of anxiety while stanning SM artist, they are all experience this when they are on top, just why? The timing always when they're about comeback or on promotion. Recently, red velvet also have rumors too after they are comeback. I hope sm artist be more strong physically and mentally , and the companies be more capable to protect their artist
So the baseline of this video is that people seem to have too much free time and that SM is useless in protecting their idols, sadly we knew that before.
I don’t expect much from this xenophobic mess that calls itself a kpop company. Thanks god they have talented artists because otherwise they would never get away with it. Imma go back streaming Glitch Mode, because this topic gets me actually mad.
For real, these haters would literally just dig so deep in an idol's life and just straight up insult them for calling someone ugly when they were 5 💀💀💀
All these lies annoyed me but the lies about Lucas has made a lot of kpop tweeps to hate him and Taeyong especially. It's so sad to see.
I know some might say I have no say because I'm a multistan but I just want all my kpop girl groups and boy groups to be happy and safe
Nct is one of the best boy groups who give us real stage performance, they vocals, they visual, they choreography, they corisma, they expressions, and they handsome handsomely looks are always on point, since debut NCT comebacks were always successful.....they are worthy of the titles, awards and all the success that comes their way
#NctZen
#GlitchMood
I've seen people on social media who's spreading rumors and false information against SM and their artists every single day but SM doesn't even try to do something about it. What's the use of being a big company with lots of lawyers and tons of money when they don't even protect their artists or their company by suing someone who is spreading rumors against them? They have mercy on people who spread rumors to their artists but not to their own artists who makes money for them.😏It's competition and it's business Sm is a big company and competitors will always want to drag who's big and at the top. Look how SM antis succeeded by spreading hate against their artists and company people just believe everything without checking facts about it, bet their competitors are enjoying it while their own artists are suffering apologizing publicly and even took hiatus and later will found out it's a false rumor.
Me literally screaming in anger watching this ,cuz m mad that after all this SM still freaking lacks in taking proper care of the idols , ughhhh idk if m mad at this idiotic toxic people trying to put nct into Scandals or SM n its poor management
Taeyong faced many horrible things n hate before n during his debut (more than 6 years). U can see he sometime crying after some iv bcs of the hate comments. He barely smile n act freely like today.
U guys can actually know how taeyong feels if u read the lyrics his solo songs : blue, swimming pool n one of his predebut song with dy,
Wasn’t it just in the news that the girl who made up the gaslighting scandal was paid a lot of money from “some big corporation” and her friends had proof of her saying she was paid off. Sounds sus to me and it explains a lot if it’s true.
Jealousy is a disease..........
It’s not bad timing, people are definitely on a mission to try and ruin nct and notice they seem to target some of the most popular members, that’s no coincidence and the fact there’s idiots online who will believe anything without any real proof makes it easy to create allegations/scandals and get away with it especially with sm record of not protecting their artist and making them guilty by default for making them apologize whether their guilty or not and as long as they keep handling things this way the scandals will continue every nct comeback, I feel bad for sm artist cause their worked like slaves only to get no real protection from their company when they need it, they most certainly earned it so sm needs to do better in that regard, I like a lot of sm artist but I ain’t messing with sm no more til they make things right with Lucas, they need to publicly acknowledge the lies and take legal action against those responsible and apologize to Lucas and hendrey for ruining their subunit debut
Just by looking at the comments, people are really pissed, they seem really scared that our talented boys would become bigger.
taeyong suffered so much even before nct debuted. i really admire how he never give up on his dream despite all the negativity around him. also when he cried during their mama roty speech, i feel so bad because he really thought if they didnt bring that trophy home, its _his_ fault. which is isnt true at all.
makes me remember that part in Law School drama where there is a group of people behind the scenes making fake accounts and posting malicious things online
“Some former fans” they wer never fans to begin with 😒
We are getting 100 new members over the next 2 years, NCT TO THE WORLD
Just how can someone believe posted something online??
There is no reason to hate on the idols, they are human too 🥺