The Hatred devs simply didn't submit their game to the classification board of Australia because in their estimation there was little point as it would be likely be banned anyways. They were probably right
guguigugu To be fair, nothing in the definition of democracy prevents a democracy from having censorship. It just requires that the censorship comity have been put together with the consent of the population, perhaps indirectly via their elected representatives.
Jensaw101 by definition, you can't democratically vote for an undemocratic measure. you can't have freedom of speech in your constitution and then vote to ban someone from expressing themselves.
guguigugu democratic doesn't mean freedom of speech and freedom of speech doesn't mean all video games are allowed to be sold. Don't get me wrong, it's still fucking stupid.
guguigugu But freedom of speech isn't a defining aspect of a democracy. It is a defining aspect of many modern democracies. Any vote that is done by the people of a nation, or by representatives that those people have voted into office is inherently a democratic vote.
"Mass communication has counter-intuitively turned all attempts at verbal debate into a basketball game where the teams are on different courts and stand around the basket racking up meaningless points and throwing shit over the dividing wall" Holy shit, I don't think there exists anywhere a more efficient explanation of current political discourse.
What do you mean? I've had meaningful discourse on RUclips before. It was about weather or not the flood would murderfuck the tyranids or not, but still.
''We live in an age where mass communication has counter intuitively turned all attempts at verbal debate into a basketball game where the teams are all on different courts, standing around the basket scoring meaningless points and throwing shit over the dividing wall.'' -Yahtzee 2015 True and i'm going to use this. :>
Eh, of course Yahtzee would say that: he's fond of the *both sides-ism* . _"If you can't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. (Like the edgy morons who actually bought this cringy game)"_
***** I've heard actually that it might have been soaked while taking the shower so he had to take it off to dry it but I'm not sure. RANDOMNATION! Of course not, but it's close. Gotta watch that GREAT movie again!
theyoutubecommentepidemic it's not as simple. Consider that in summer you would more likely wear a panama, a trilby is a mid-season hat. Guess our team at GCH laboratories will have to study further into it. We don't have definitive answers right now.
Sure it's violent but it's no more gory than Gears of war or Left 4 dead and the main character looks, speaks and acts like he was designed by a 15 year old who hates their dad and listens to too much Slipknot. Give it a few weeks and no one will give a shit.
You have to remember that Australians couldn't get the normal edition of Left 4 Dead 2 for years and was stuck with an annoying "low violence" edition for over half a decade. I know that isn't your main point but thought I'd mention it anyway.
Serpico's Beard He also looks how those 15 year olds wish the looked so it is a complete package. Honestly when it was first announced no one really cared about it until it was pulled from steam. Most long time gamers have a trained knee jerk reaction to that sort of thing and the rest is history :/
Bruce Wayne It's hard to make a game that is purely about killing sprees fun. I mean GTA 5 is a great game but most of it's fun comes from the missions and story, it can be fun to go on a rampage for 10 minutes now and again but it gets dull pretty fast.
I get it now. You've revealed an artistic truth to me. The hair IS the trenchcoat. The trenchoat IS the hair. Brilliant statement, Hatred. Brilliant. (?)
DesPhantomes He was just trying to make a cool sounding excuse for not having to tell his audience that he has such a goofy name. It didn't work and just made him even more stupid sounding.
+DesPhantomes scottski02's comment still works because his literal name is "Not Important". So, to reiterate, maybe the reason Not Important became a spree killer was because he was pissed at his parents for giving him the name Not Important?
Josh Fitton The game would be good if it were over the top acid-trip kawaii silly and not just limp--wristed emo shit. It actually feels more like one of those arcade games you'd play in Duke Nukem or Saints Row or something.
***** You edited your comment and its still spelt "sactisfying" Im not trying to be a grammar nazi, either, its just frustrating me that i cant think of a funny idea for what sactisfying could be.
Hot gaming pro tip: If a game decides to sell itself on shock value as opposed to its gameplay, story, or any actual part of the experience at all, it's probably a big pile of wank.
Fun Fact: The dialogue for Not Important/The Antagonist was written by a guy named "Herr Warcrimer". If I recall correctly that is his actual legal name, and if not then he's just done a pretty good job at hiding what his actual name is. Talk about dedication. Anyway, He's part of a death metal band called "Infernal War". It's one of those metal bands that sings/screams about how genocide, murder, and "the extermination of the weak human masses" are great things and whatnot. And yes, they do indeed say "Hail Satan".
@@paradoxacres1063 Nothing to do with race, it's about publicity. This game would have shriveled and died if it wasn't for the headline that Steam had banned it
If you are actually taking this game seriously then you've actually fallen victim to exactly what the devs want. Social stigma is what made this game so popular in the first place. The game is little more than a couple of guys saying "hey, let's make this stupid little game made to trigger people and see what happens". And believe me "because we can" games are some of the most entertaining...
Yahtzee summed up the culture we live in pretty well, everyone getting their panties in a knot about every little thing while no one benefits and no genuine debate of the issues ever occurs.
I think it's pretty ironic that Postal 2, a game at least 15 years older than Hatred, has WAY better AI and NPC reactions. If you shoot someone to bits there, people freak out, throw up, and run the hell away.
@@ShroudedWolf51 imho his flatness is kind of part of the humor...like how disassociated he is with all that shit...no more fucks left to give. also if you dont think stealing a donation box counts as completing the "donate to charity" task or how the church gets mobbed by suicide bombers i dunno what to say
I mean, the only thing Hatred's devs cared about making was money. So you probably haven't thought about it in the eight years since leaving that comment, and neither have any of the devs, from their glamourous townhouses.
1:44 Y’know, what Yahtzee says here does conjure up a hell of an image. Basically, I see “Jeffrey”, rather than seeking to “cleanse” the world of people he hates, attempting to “free” people from a miserable existence (from his twisted perspective). In this alternate version of the game, he talks in a genuinely calm, reassuring voice, even as he’s mowing down countless innocent people, performing executions with lines like, “Shh, shh, it’s okay, shhhhh,” “It’ll be over soon,” “I know it hurts, but it’s for your own good.” You know, standard “parent-comforting-child-who’s-getting-a-shot” speaking. And when he’s confronted by law enforcement/military, he isn’t disdainful but simply sad that they don’t understand what he’s doing (again, from his perspective), and he even apologizes to them for having to murder them due to their “delusions” (hypocrite much?). *shudder* I know people may find this silly, but it just seems very disturbing to think of this game going that direction.
@@pomax1464 Postal 1 was more "everyone is infected by a theoretical hate plague, I gotta kill all of them to stop it - wait a minute, what do you mean I'm crazy?"
What an insane coincidence. Item 1: Yahtzee visually represented his strategy with fire and an ostrich. Item 2: When I first saw this game I immediately thought it was just Postal. Years and years ago when I was playing Postal with a friend, we were dicking around with the level editor. I really wanted to screw around and make something wacky so I added three infinitely and rapidly spawning spawn points of..m ostriches. Why? Because I wanted to blow up a fuckton of ostriches. Sue me. Anyway, I put the spawn points at a gas station, which unbeknownst to me, spawned infinite explosions. One molotov cocktail later and I've got a sea of running, screaming, flaming ostriches that never died down. Freshly spawned ostriches were lit aflame by all of the nearby ostriches ad infinitum. The ostrich screams were ceaseless. To this day that memory sticks with me aa one of the funniest things I've ever seen. I laughed for hours because of how completely unexpected and entirely ridiculous the whole thing was. So.... that's my story. I'm amazed you've read this far.
Hueco Necromorfo So Mr Important, I'm here to talk to you about that loan you owe me (violent spluttering followed by a body hitting the floor) so it all began...
There's only one good thing that Hatred did. It proved that you can now sell games rated AO and publishing them is now easier to do. While that doesn't seem very progressive it's actually a good step forward for development. Now we'll have to see if somebody takes advantage of that and there's no guarantee that we would get a quality product but none the less. It is something worth considering.
its funny cause this review kinda points out my exact problem with this game. no i dont care about how violent it is, i dont care about its portrayal of serial murdering or glorifying. I care that the entire concept of this game was made as the marketing strategy, the game was made knowing that there were going to be over offended darts who cried the moment they saw this game, and the crying would cause people to A) try it for themselves or B) try it because they were told not to. And thats the whole thing that bothers me it spent all its time working on a way to make sales through buzz rather than creating a good game and thats just saddening to see in the wonderful world that is the video game industry.
What, the idea that some people are gonna buy games anyway the more they're told not to? I see where you're going with that, it's just that I still think it's a case by case basis. I mean, people say, don't buy Cyberpunk 2077 because it's a disappointing game, and I don't see how some might buy it regardless for whatever reason, though I can certianly buy people playing it just to spite the company, it's what's been happening to most Bethesda Fallout's, people buy and play them just to clarify themselves how much they hate them, and it seems fewer and fewer people are playing the apparent "best Fallout" New Vegas, despite fans assuring everyone that it will cure cancer, increase your IQ by 50 points, define entirely the existential theme of creating life in the apocalypse, and transcend space and time as we know it.
@@simple-commentator-not-rea7345 i dont think a game being broken and buggy is a controversy-sales strategy, rather just a failure. not the same thing really. "dont do smth cuz its bad for u and i dont like it" and "dont do smth cuz its boring and doesnt even work" dont really have the same effect. a moral panic and a dissapointong failure arent comparable or the same
Art Murder I'd enjoy playing it, but I pretty much recreated it in Garry's Mod with a destructible house map and some balloon-held ragdolls with a gib addon enabled.
At least these Texan cops actually went in and try to take down the spree killer instead of just standing around, listening to children being executed. And detaining people trying to help.
I'm sort of sad that this game has sold as well as it has. So many people apparently did exactly what the devs wanted, which is get suckered in by the painfully obvious attention grab. Make a dark and edgy game and make a huge deal about how dark and edgy it is, and there is a certain subset of people who will lap that shit up. I'm not buying it just out of the principle that I don't get caught by these idiotic controversy-hypes.
GOAT The devs of hatred are fucking geniouses. They recognized how easy it is to gain profit from causing a contreversy, and hit the jackpot. If this game has any deeper meaning, it is that how easy it is to sell a carboard cutout of a product just by offending the right people.
GOAT I'm glad this game is doing well. People that allowed themselves to be gullible and think raising awareness about the game's crude nature truly helped the developers. Without them this game might have flown under the radar.
When "controversial" games like hatred are released I always seem to see more people complaining about the people complaining about it that people actually complaining about it.
The thing is, there are idiots on both sides. And neither wants to admit they're a problem, preferring to say "There are more idiots on the opposite side of course, trust me, here's three comments that prove me right somehow." Then the idiots on that side believe him and begin to generalize the other side to reassure themselves they're right without actually making a point. See that guy above for an example.
i know this is 3 year old comment....but i recently learned something that is extremely relevant - apparently youtube/google doesnt just adjust your search results based on the personal data they collected from you...they also filter the displayed comments....That's right - so you can only see people say the same things that you have shown interest in...they've turned into literal echo chambers...
What's really sad is that Undertale did the "murder the world" aspect better than this game could ever do. Undertale recognizes what you're doing is wrong and characters react aptly to you as a monster. Mr. Cuddletrousers' victims don't ever react realistically (fucking running into walls and getting stuck in each other) and the game has no desire to showcase to you the horrible monster you are
Thats because thats where the fun is. You try playing hatred without killing anybody. See how boring thatll be. Besides, its a very medicore murder sim. Undertale is entirely different in every way. Not a very bright idea to say that Undertale exceled at an idea that is completly different in Hatred.
Mohammed SAMI The point I was trying to get across is that a good murder-sim should make you *feel* like you're doing something atrocious. Hatred doesn't do that: it's just boring at the end of the day.
+RobotSnake Yes, but more in a pseudo-masochistic way. With Undyne and Sans it's fun because it's a challenge. It's the same reason why old games were balls-to-the-wall hard and kids still played them to completion.
A quality magenta chicken mask wow... linkin park ... thats the best you can do? a band with lyrics so wet they make the worlds oceans look like a desert??? If you had said decapitated or gorgoroth you would have been close! pig destroyer maybe?... screw it even some terrible kidy metal band like BMTH, or From First to last would be more apt due to their wanky emo tendency's but linkin 'fucking actually a corporate boy band' park ....is this real life right now mostly jokes ...chill man ...mostly...mostly jokes
***** Mainstream popular choice is more likely to get recognized and thus the jokes earn more laughs. I've never heard of any of the bands you mentioned. Though given your lack of capitalizing proper nouns I can't quite tell where the names begin and end.
erttheking Well, it was pretty awful. The people who debate about game violence usually stop after the game releases, so the only people who would talk about violent games are the ones who enjoy them. Obviously, not many people enjoyed the game for more than a couple runs.
After it made lots of money for being below mediocore. Seriously the theme of it and marketing strategy was brilliant. Troll people into buying it by having think of the children parents try to ban it. Even though you can literally do this in GTA just add a black and white filter...
When they first announced Hatred, I bought a bottle of champagne in the fridge, just to wait for Yatzee's review of this game. Too bad I corked the bottle last week when I watched this on Escapist, so now I have nothing to drink :P
Hatred is a really bad game for reasons not needing an explanation. It sold only because negative attention is still attention to game developers and apparently the Gamers themselves. Hatred is a screaming five year old. He wants something, and will not stop until you give it too him. You gave it to him. This isn't violence, this isn't fun, this is just sad. For everyone.
Now I want a comedy game about a combat boot trying in vain to reunite with a concrete traffic barrier. although maybe it'd work better as a short story.
Smeg I love the anime that your photo came from. It is funny and it is just so realistically mundane, that does not mean it's bad. It is rare to see an anime that really captures day to day things in real life and also is a slice of life.
Darkghost_ I thought it was obvious that it was what it was from the start. People were calling it Postal Reloaded from the word 'go'. Was it ever going to be anything more than a cash grab riding the media wave of faux controversy? Hell, you can create a mass murder simulator until the cows come home. You want a controversial game? Show me John Wayne Gacey Simulator: The Untold Story. You can make a murdering child rapist seem sympathetic. THAT would be controversial. Not Death-splosion #889.
@@Mr_T_Badger I think I still have my old PS2, too. But I don't see myself coming back to SoE anytime soon. Not because of its content (I still love controversial media and games to this day), but wasn't it basically just a high score game? I guess I grew out of it.
***** It's probably worth watching on the Escapist, as additional snark and content is included in the end credits, which are cut out on the RUclips version,
I distinctly remember the main character said the line "My weapons are my only friend." That line was drowning in so much angst it was the funniest thing I've ever heard.
Hatred sounds like the poster game for angsty, "edgelords", as I've heard them referred to. A game where you can kill any and everyone, you say? Hm, doesn't such a game already exist? Oh, right, it's that ever popular and much more successful series Grand Theft Auto! Also, I think the creator must've watched Uwe Boll's "masterpiece" Rampage one too many times. Honestly, I have no feelings towards the game except hilarious pity towards its creation/creator :)
My Opinion (Not like it matters) Hatred isn't a bad game. It's just an okay game that had a fucking brilliant advertisement campaign. Why pay for publicity when you can simply get it by having the internet get offended by it, thus spreading it around and getting people interested. All I can say to the developers is, Well Played.
I believe, to an extent, that anything can be in a game, whether it was a real event ot not. I rarely see anyone saying that Battlefield 1 shouldn't have been made because it was based on an actual tragic event, because time will eventually heal everything. In an age where someone can make The Human Centipede and not have it be banned worldwide exists, I see no reason why, given the appropriate amount of time, someone couldn't make a game where you play as an al-Qeada troop who was vital to the 9/11 operation, as long as you don't actively disrespect the victims. If Battlefield 1 had been released a year after the war, everyone would have hated it for coming too soon, but time heals all tragedies eventually.
As usual, Yahtzee is dead right. Game wouldn't even be in the public spotlight if the video game naysayers had simply ignored it. Much like a certain female game critic, the more people hate it, the more popular and influential it became.
Reminds me of the day the Public Prosecutor produced a list of 60 banned films in the UK. This included _The Evil Dead_, _The Witch Who Came from the Sea_, _Cannibal Holocaust_, and many more. People just used it as a hit-list of all the films they hadn't seen yet. Yippee.
his name is actually Nathan Explosion formally of Dethklok fame, the government finally shut the band down, presumably for thousands of deaths associated with their concerts. with the loss of is his band and identity as a visionary vocalist of the largest band in the world. He tried to recover from this by starting the Explosion's on Broadway, though this would lead to only one track on the top 40, a raging condamnation of president Robert Redford and his senseless waste of money and lives on a stupid war on mars with what many called a fake attack on new york for a government seeking to take control of the masses and to take land from the martians with the aid of their blue ubermensch. however he would never attain the same level of success as with Dethklok, in fact he was surpassed by former band mate of Dethklok, Pickles and his reformed Snake N Barrels band, with many of his songs hitting the top 40, this must have devastated Nathan as he would fall into drink and despair only 2 years after starting his band. He was thinking at this time how do I get my name back out there, how do a make a comeback, he settled on the single biggest piece of performance art in the history of the United States, He would kill his way to a nuclear reactor and set it to blow, and the people would remember the name of Nathan Explosion for a thousand years, this act would set into motion the revelations that Dethklok would start the apocalypse, with the nuclear explosion started by one man being rather unbelievable, the blame was placed on the still functioning soviet union. Ozymandias would try to fix this but with suspicion that the war on mars was a lie, world war three was inevitable. Sorry kinda long lol
+Thenextworldwar Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure. It was this game by a famous graffiti artist called Marc Ecko, so it basically wanted to be Jet Set Radio, one of those anarchist games like Red Faction, Just Cause and Carmageddon. That, and the fact it was released when the V for Vendetta movie started making its rounds, where it said 'Screw Parliament for being a bunch of xenophobic jingoistic assholes' which made sure that Contents Under Pressure was refused classification-in other words, banned in Australia for trying to be Jet Set Radio, which somehow got released despite the graffiti in there being used for vandalism. But then again, it was the 2000's, that weird dark age for gaming in Australia where R-18 ratings for games didn't exist and games that were trying to be both crazy and realistic at the same time, like Postal and Manhunt were given the boot as soon as either the first trailers for came out or a magazine or newspaper pointed out their existence.
Can I just throw out something that's been bugging the hell out of me? NOBODY said this game should be banned. Nobody. Zero people. Zero websites. Zero news articles. People said the game looked like whiny attention-seeking garbage made by twats, but nobody actually said, "Let's ban this!" Not a single person. And yet to read the comments, you'll see several people proudly stating that they bought the game without even playing it, just to 'stick it to those social justice cunts'. Or 'to show the man he can't tell me what to do'. Essentially the entire fanbase is a troll. You're not allowed to say anything negative about the game ever because if you are, you're just 'offended' or butthurt or trying to censor things which just drives them to give the developers more money, which apparently makes the developers geniuses. ... Remember when games got famous for being good?
+MCHellshit I'd even argue violence from hotline miami had more impact on the player simple because it purposefully juxataposed the really bright retro pixel art style. Rather than Hatred's world which is always dark and sad.
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The Hatred devs simply didn't submit their game to the classification board of Australia because in their estimation there was little point as it would be likely be banned anyways.
They were probably right
Lennie Godber i like how a supposedly democratic country has a censorship commitee and no one thinks about it twice
guguigugu To be fair, nothing in the definition of democracy prevents a democracy from having censorship. It just requires that the censorship comity have been put together with the consent of the population, perhaps indirectly via their elected representatives.
Jensaw101 by definition, you can't democratically vote for an undemocratic measure. you can't have freedom of speech in your constitution and then vote to ban someone from expressing themselves.
guguigugu democratic doesn't mean freedom of speech and freedom of speech doesn't mean all video games are allowed to be sold. Don't get me wrong, it's still fucking stupid.
guguigugu But freedom of speech isn't a defining aspect of a democracy. It is a defining aspect of many modern democracies.
Any vote that is done by the people of a nation, or by representatives that those people have voted into office is inherently a democratic vote.
"Mass communication has counter-intuitively turned all attempts at verbal debate into a basketball game where the teams are on different courts and stand around the basket racking up meaningless points and throwing shit over the dividing wall"
Holy shit, I don't think there exists anywhere a more efficient explanation of current political discourse.
Yahtzee truly is the wisest of us all.
It's like he's a prophet that foresaw the 2016 US election.
I was just thinking this.
not even limited to political discourse ive seen this shit in fucking shipping wars.
What do you mean? I've had meaningful discourse on RUclips before. It was about weather or not the flood would murderfuck the tyranids or not, but still.
Man, Tommy Wiseau is still pissed about Lisa cheating on him
Igorcastrochucre Lisa tore him apart so now he'll tear the word apart.
What a story Mark.
YOU ARE TEARING ME APART YAHTZEE. By the way how's your sex life?
I'm fed up with this world!
shadowsfrost1 Oh hai Mark!
''We live in an age where mass communication has counter intuitively turned all attempts at verbal debate into a basketball game where the teams are all on different courts, standing around the basket scoring meaningless points and throwing shit over the dividing wall.''
-Yahtzee 2015
True and i'm going to use this. :>
Still brilliant and still relevant.
Eh, of course Yahtzee would say that: he's fond of the *both sides-ism* .
_"If you can't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. (Like the edgy morons who actually bought this cringy game)"_
@@paradoxacres1063
Who's that quotation by?
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@@festethephule7553 he made it up and quoted himself to sound smarter lmao
When did that happen? When did George Clooney put on a hat?!
VGM Pathfinder *whoosh*
Does the batman cowl count as a hat?
***** I've heard actually that it might have been soaked while taking the shower so he had to take it off to dry it but I'm not sure.
RANDOMNATION! Of course not, but it's close. Gotta watch that GREAT movie again!
Jacopo Barberis The real question is what kind of hat it was. Was it a trilby? A baseball cap? A Pork Pie hat? It seems we'll never know.
theyoutubecommentepidemic it's not as simple. Consider that in summer you would more likely wear a panama, a trilby is a mid-season hat. Guess our team at GCH laboratories will have to study further into it. We don't have definitive answers right now.
Sure it's violent but it's no more gory than Gears of war or Left 4 dead and the main character looks, speaks and acts like he was designed by a 15 year old who hates their dad and listens to too much Slipknot.
Give it a few weeks and no one will give a shit.
You have to remember that Australians couldn't get the normal edition of Left 4 Dead 2 for years and was stuck with an annoying "low violence" edition for over half a decade. I know that isn't your main point but thought I'd mention it anyway.
I didn't give a shit before and after it was released.
Serpico's Beard He also looks how those 15 year olds wish the looked so it is a complete package.
Honestly when it was first announced no one really cared about it until it was pulled from steam. Most long time gamers have a trained knee jerk reaction to that sort of thing and the rest is history :/
It looks boring to play too
Bruce Wayne It's hard to make a game that is purely about killing sprees fun. I mean GTA 5 is a great game but most of it's fun comes from the missions and story, it can be fun to go on a rampage for 10 minutes now and again but it gets dull pretty fast.
I get it now. You've revealed an artistic truth to me. The hair IS the trenchcoat. The trenchoat IS the hair. Brilliant statement, Hatred. Brilliant.
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I get it now too!
Now... i am a kid. And now... i am a squid!
***** That ad was more cringe worthy then Jar-Jar Binks, Tommy Wiseleau and Birdemic had a three-some.
Joseph Asphahani He got fashion tips from Bayonetta.
Joseph Asphahani so the character is a grim-dark, brooding Bayonetta?
Hotsex spy Oh, you're just not fresh enough to get the artistic value of that ad.
Maybe the reason Jeffrey Cuddletrousers became a spree killer was because he was pissed at his parents for giving him the name Jeffrey Cuddletrousers?
No, the names not important
DesPhantomes He was just trying to make a cool sounding excuse for not having to tell his audience that he has such a goofy name. It didn't work and just made him even more stupid sounding.
+DesPhantomes scottski02's comment still works because his literal name is "Not Important". So, to reiterate, maybe the reason Not Important became a spree killer was because he was pissed at his parents for giving him the name Not Important?
+DesPhantomes so he became a murderer because his parents named him not important
What’s wrong with the name Jeffrey?
patiently awaiting the fedora DLC with cuddly pony pillow and katana
Josh Fitton The game would be good if it were over the top acid-trip kawaii silly and not just limp--wristed emo shit. It actually feels more like one of those arcade games you'd play in Duke Nukem or Saints Row or something.
Now that would get me to buy the game.
***** nah...it needs more Tommy Wiseau quotes.
***** You edited your comment and its still spelt "sactisfying"
Im not trying to be a grammar nazi, either, its just frustrating me that i cant think of a funny idea for what sactisfying could be.
Josh Fitton I want there to be a Hug Mode DLC
Hot gaming pro tip: If a game decides to sell itself on shock value as opposed to its gameplay, story, or any actual part of the experience at all, it's probably a big pile of wank.
AValveFanboy My penis is a big pile of wank. But at least my penis has some character development!
Jeronimo Torres I gotta remember that one.
AValveFanboy gta
Jeronimo Torres *ba dum tiss*
AValveFanboy that's why it's good to watch some more objective reviews (like TB) and gameplay footage.
"Dressed for a Texan wedding."
I'm calling it now, best Zero Punctuation ep of the year.
Fun Fact: The dialogue for Not Important/The Antagonist was written by a guy named "Herr Warcrimer". If I recall correctly that is his actual legal name, and if not then he's just done a pretty good job at hiding what his actual name is. Talk about dedication.
Anyway, He's part of a death metal band called "Infernal War". It's one of those metal bands that sings/screams about how genocide, murder, and "the extermination of the weak human masses" are great things and whatnot. And yes, they do indeed say "Hail Satan".
nothing like a bit of method acting, eh?
You literally have an anime pfp
Sounds about right
I feel like if you're taking anything they do seriously including this game then the joke is definitely on you and people like you
@@ravensflockmate Don't know where you're getting the idea that I'm taking them or the game seriously, but okay.
BANNY GAME MAKE PEOPLE WANTY GAME MORE
@@paradoxacres1063 Nothing to do with race, it's about publicity. This game would have shriveled and died if it wasn't for the headline that Steam had banned it
4:36
If you are actually taking this game seriously then you've actually fallen victim to exactly what the devs want. Social stigma is what made this game so popular in the first place. The game is little more than a couple of guys saying "hey, let's make this stupid little game made to trigger people and see what happens". And believe me "because we can" games are some of the most entertaining...
Yahtzee summed up the culture we live in pretty well, everyone getting their panties in a knot about every little thing while no one benefits and no genuine debate of the issues ever occurs.
4RealNumbersRreal Applies to pretty much every controversial topic you can think of
I think it's pretty ironic that Postal 2, a game at least 15 years older than Hatred, has WAY better AI and NPC reactions. If you shoot someone to bits there, people freak out, throw up, and run the hell away.
@@showmemoviesnow still better than hatred tbh
And there’s the fact the main character of postal 2 actually is funny and not trying too hard like cuddletrousers
@@crimsondynamo615 He's funny? I didn't last more than an hour in Postal 2 due to how flat and lifeless it was.
@@ShroudedWolf51 imho his flatness is kind of part of the humor...like how disassociated he is with all that shit...no more fucks left to give. also if you dont think stealing a donation box counts as completing the "donate to charity" task or how the church gets mobbed by suicide bombers i dunno what to say
I mean, the only thing Hatred's devs cared about making was money. So you probably haven't thought about it in the eight years since leaving that comment, and neither have any of the devs, from their glamourous townhouses.
1:44 Y’know, what Yahtzee says here does conjure up a hell of an image. Basically, I see “Jeffrey”, rather than seeking to “cleanse” the world of people he hates, attempting to “free” people from a miserable existence (from his twisted perspective). In this alternate version of the game, he talks in a genuinely calm, reassuring voice, even as he’s mowing down countless innocent people, performing executions with lines like, “Shh, shh, it’s okay, shhhhh,” “It’ll be over soon,” “I know it hurts, but it’s for your own good.” You know, standard “parent-comforting-child-who’s-getting-a-shot” speaking. And when he’s confronted by law enforcement/military, he isn’t disdainful but simply sad that they don’t understand what he’s doing (again, from his perspective), and he even apologizes to them for having to murder them due to their “delusions” (hypocrite much?). *shudder* I know people may find this silly, but it just seems very disturbing to think of this game going that direction.
Congrats! You put more effort into the game than the people who actually made it!
@@timesnewlogan2032
Thank you. I honestly forgot about this comment, but it warms my heart that you believe so.
Wasn't that the plot of Postal 1?
Done well that would be genuinely unnerving. Holy shit.
@@pomax1464 Postal 1 was more "everyone is infected by a theoretical hate plague, I gotta kill all of them to stop it - wait a minute, what do you mean I'm crazy?"
I love how, when you type "zero punctuation hatred" into the RUclips search bar, the third choice is his Mailbag Showdown.
7 months later, and I only remember that this game existed because this hilarious review came up in my recommended list.
"Calling him madam at the trench coat and death metal shop."
That's probably the funniest line that this dude has ever written. Good shit.
"less of a toss than a quadriplegic shot putter" is one of Yahtzee's best closing lines to date!
What an insane coincidence.
Item 1: Yahtzee visually represented his strategy with fire and an ostrich.
Item 2: When I first saw this game I immediately thought it was just Postal.
Years and years ago when I was playing Postal with a friend, we were dicking around with the level editor.
I really wanted to screw around and make something wacky so I added three infinitely and rapidly spawning spawn points of..m ostriches. Why? Because I wanted to blow up a fuckton of ostriches.
Sue me.
Anyway, I put the spawn points at a gas station, which unbeknownst to me, spawned infinite explosions. One molotov cocktail later and I've got a sea of running, screaming, flaming ostriches that never died down. Freshly spawned ostriches were lit aflame by all of the nearby ostriches ad infinitum. The ostrich screams were ceaseless.
To this day that memory sticks with me aa one of the funniest things I've ever seen. I laughed for hours because of how completely unexpected and entirely ridiculous the whole thing was.
So.... that's my story. I'm amazed you've read this far.
thepopeofatheism All hail the dude!
thepopeofatheism "Why? Because I wanted to blow up a fuckton of ostriches." I love the internet! XD
thepopeofatheism Before Postal, Carmageddon and Fight Club.
Pope, you need to recreate that again with a camera on.
thepopeofatheism
You "laughed for hours"?I would have ceased to be amused by this after like a minute. guess this generation is doomed
So Hatred guy's name is Not Important...
Hueco Necromorfo dad joke
Hueco Necromorfo He does however look like a Jeffrey if you think about it
miller repin "Dad humor" is the best though.
Hueco Necromorfo So Mr Important, I'm here to talk to you about that loan you owe me (violent spluttering followed by a body hitting the floor) so it all began...
Hueco Necromorfo Could be worse, His name could be Not Sure.
There's only one good thing that Hatred did. It proved that you can now sell games rated AO and publishing them is now easier to do. While that doesn't seem very progressive it's actually a good step forward for development.
Now we'll have to see if somebody takes advantage of that and there's no guarantee that we would get a quality product but none the less. It is something worth considering.
7 years later and Steam's front page is now usually 60% pornography
@@dyldragon1 and mostly bad one at that
"Am I a bad person? Yes but not because of that."
It makes you wonder how Yahtzee lives with himself since he admits it.
Perfectly fine trust me
its funny cause this review kinda points out my exact problem with this game. no i dont care about how violent it is, i dont care about its portrayal of serial murdering or glorifying. I care that the entire concept of this game was made as the marketing strategy, the game was made knowing that there were going to be over offended darts who cried the moment they saw this game, and the crying would cause people to A) try it for themselves or B) try it because they were told not to. And thats the whole thing that bothers me it spent all its time working on a way to make sales through buzz rather than creating a good game and thats just saddening to see in the wonderful world that is the video game industry.
What, the idea that some people are gonna buy games anyway the more they're told not to? I see where you're going with that, it's just that I still think it's a case by case basis. I mean, people say, don't buy Cyberpunk 2077 because it's a disappointing game, and I don't see how some might buy it regardless for whatever reason, though I can certianly buy people playing it just to spite the company, it's what's been happening to most Bethesda Fallout's, people buy and play them just to clarify themselves how much they hate them, and it seems fewer and fewer people are playing the apparent "best Fallout" New Vegas, despite fans assuring everyone that it will cure cancer, increase your IQ by 50 points, define entirely the existential theme of creating life in the apocalypse, and transcend space and time as we know it.
@@simple-commentator-not-rea7345 i dont think a game being broken and buggy is a controversy-sales strategy, rather just a failure. not the same thing really. "dont do smth cuz its bad for u and i dont like it" and "dont do smth cuz its boring and doesnt even work" dont really have the same effect. a moral panic and a dissapointong failure arent comparable or the same
Hatred, the game no one fucking likes, but no one will stop fucking talking about.
Soon basically the new flappy bird or the new fnaf
Mostafa Shahin Except some morons actually like Fnaf.
Art Murder I'd enjoy playing it, but I pretty much recreated it in Garry's Mod with a destructible house map and some balloon-held ragdolls with a gib addon enabled.
Art Murder OMG you're account pic!!!! Hahaha
Art Murder I like it >:|
At least these Texan cops actually went in and try to take down the spree killer instead of just standing around, listening to children being executed. And detaining people trying to help.
'Giving less of a toss than a quadrplegic shotputter'
Whatever Yahtzee gets paid, it isn't enough.
00:45 and 04:36 are both *brilliant* points, and the second one holds up more now than _ever._
I'm sort of sad that this game has sold as well as it has. So many people apparently did exactly what the devs wanted, which is get suckered in by the painfully obvious attention grab. Make a dark and edgy game and make a huge deal about how dark and edgy it is, and there is a certain subset of people who will lap that shit up. I'm not buying it just out of the principle that I don't get caught by these idiotic controversy-hypes.
GOAT The devs of hatred are fucking geniouses. They recognized how easy it is to gain profit from causing a contreversy, and hit the jackpot.
If this game has any deeper meaning, it is that how easy it is to sell a carboard cutout of a product just by offending the right people.
Sgt Daemon Or how dumb the mainstream audience listens to tabloid journalism. Hatred pisses people off for the sake of people off.
GOAT I bought it sorely because people hated it and there were demands for censorship. I havent even played it.
GOAT Don't buy it then.
GOAT I'm glad this game is doing well. People that allowed themselves to be gullible and think raising awareness about the game's crude nature truly helped the developers. Without them this game might have flown under the radar.
When "controversial" games like hatred are released I always seem to see more people complaining about the people complaining about it that people actually complaining about it.
+Jack Robnson This...
The thing is, there are idiots on both sides. And neither wants to admit they're a problem, preferring to say "There are more idiots on the opposite side of course, trust me, here's three comments that prove me right somehow." Then the idiots on that side believe him and begin to generalize the other side to reassure themselves they're right without actually making a point.
See that guy above for an example.
i know this is 3 year old comment....but i recently learned something that is extremely relevant - apparently youtube/google doesnt just adjust your search results based on the personal data they collected from you...they also filter the displayed comments....That's right - so you can only see people say the same things that you have shown interest in...they've turned into literal echo chambers...
Lol, Just noticed how much his line at 1:13 "calling him madam" reminded me of the ma'am contoversy *chuckle*
What's really sad is that Undertale did the "murder the world" aspect better than this game could ever do. Undertale recognizes what you're doing is wrong and characters react aptly to you as a monster. Mr. Cuddletrousers' victims don't ever react realistically (fucking running into walls and getting stuck in each other) and the game has no desire to showcase to you the horrible monster you are
Thats because thats where the fun is. You try playing hatred without killing anybody. See how boring thatll be.
Besides, its a very medicore murder sim. Undertale is entirely different in every way. Not a very bright idea to say that Undertale exceled at an idea that is completly different in Hatred.
Mohammed SAMI The point I was trying to get across is that a good murder-sim should make you *feel* like you're doing something atrocious. Hatred doesn't do that: it's just boring at the end of the day.
pokemonmanic3595 Totally true. Turned out to be a really medicore game.
+pokemonmanic3595 So does that make Hatred Undertale's genocide run (with completely different gameplay) and SANS fun?
+RobotSnake Yes, but more in a pseudo-masochistic way. With Undyne and Sans it's fun because it's a challenge. It's the same reason why old games were balls-to-the-wall hard and kids still played them to completion.
Can't we just have mindless fun anymore. Why does everything have to have a deeper message. Its like high school english class all over again.
kilroyjenkins1 What was the last piece of media you consumed which lacked a deeper meaning?
kilroyjenkins1 your name had 1 in it meaning you must feel alone in having just plain fun in this dark world.
Leviathon672015 I DID watch a rather good threesome DP porno the other night...
ladenswallow09 ^ Point to Gryffindore.
kilroyjenkins1 It's like every poem ever. Poets just mindlessly write their shit and we have to find some profound meaning to it.
I think it's interesting that Linkin Park made a video game.
A quality magenta chicken mask *applause*
Link in park. Don't you mean "useless in park"?
Link in a park would be quite useful, actually. He would cut all the grass and get rid of any large rocks.
A quality magenta chicken mask
wow... linkin park ... thats the best you can do? a band with lyrics so wet they make the worlds oceans look like a desert???
If you had said decapitated or gorgoroth you would have been close!
pig destroyer maybe?...
screw it even some terrible kidy metal band like BMTH, or From First to last would be more apt due to their wanky emo tendency's
but linkin 'fucking actually a corporate boy band' park ....is this real life right now
mostly jokes ...chill man ...mostly...mostly jokes
***** Mainstream popular choice is more likely to get recognized and thus the jokes earn more laughs. I've never heard of any of the bands you mentioned. Though given your lack of capitalizing proper nouns I can't quite tell where the names begin and end.
I can't wait until he reviews Fallout 4!!!
***** Yea.....
***** Me too. He rarely has anything nice to say about a game. But you gotta appreciate his candor.
avery hola he already did in the last video
***** Maybe he doesn't want to? ever think of that?
SporeFreak2010 I'm relatively certain the Escapist tells him which games to review
The metaphor at 4:36 is brilliant...I'm going to steal that!
"Less of a toss than a quadriplegic shot-putter."
*claps*
Bravo man!
"Violence will be met with more Violence" - sums up American Foreign and Domestic Policy?
Greetings from the future. Can confirm that everybody forgot about this game a few weeks after it was released.
Anus in your
Yup, everybody got over it pretty quick.
People have pretty much forgotten this game haven't they?
Yes.
erttheking Well, it was pretty awful. The people who debate about game violence usually stop after the game releases, so the only people who would talk about violent games are the ones who enjoy them.
Obviously, not many people enjoyed the game for more than a couple runs.
Yep, pretty much
After it made lots of money for being below mediocore. Seriously the theme of it and marketing strategy was brilliant. Troll people into buying it by having think of the children parents try to ban it. Even though you can literally do this in GTA just add a black and white filter...
Pretty much, yeah.
So basically, Jeffery is a nerdy fanboy of Caleb from Blood.
With the hair of Tommy Wiseau, and the likability of festering trash.
Never thought id see one of your comments, huh
And not even Blood 1 Caleb. He’s a nerdy fanboy of Blood 2 Caleb!
You have such a way with wordsmithing. Pure talent.
When they first announced Hatred, I bought a bottle of champagne in the fridge, just to wait for Yatzee's review of this game.
Too bad I corked the bottle last week when I watched this on Escapist, so now I have nothing to drink :P
Hatred is a really bad game for reasons not needing an explanation. It sold only because negative attention is still attention to game developers and apparently the Gamers themselves.
Hatred is a screaming five year old. He wants something, and will not stop until you give it too him. You gave it to him.
This isn't violence, this isn't fun, this is just sad. For everyone.
"Jeffrey Cuddletrousers"
Oh Christ, I'm dying...
"Try banney game make people wanty game more" That sum's up Dead or Alive Xtreme 3
Well, unlike this game, DoA: X3 had a bit of fun sprinkled across it here and there. This, not so much.
Best Zero Punctuation Yet!
Kotton Gamer Not even close.
i liked it for some reason, he pointed out the finer points about society that I love hearing
I have hatred for this game
Wilson Neto Bu Dun Tisk
Wilson Neto No No No get out get out
+Psychoman Get to The Choppa!!!
ok i'm out i have this world
my brain just exploded
"And the rest of the world gives less of a toss than a quadriplegic shot putter" is a really clever finishing joke.
"Giving less of a toss than a quadriplegic shot-putter."
That closing statement on public discourse is still one of the best analogies I've ever heard
2:36 that's a Florida Man headline right there
Here is a pro life hack: You wanna play hatred? DON'T. Just go and play some Good ol' *Hotline Miami* sunny jim.
Now I want a comedy game about a combat boot trying in vain to reunite with a concrete traffic barrier.
although maybe it'd work better as a short story.
overrated. used its controlversy to gain attention but turns out to be very mild an repetitive in the end. 4/10
Darkghost_ Pretty generous for such a beating you just gave the game.
Darkghost_ at least at the end you cause a nuclear meltdown at a power plant AT LEAST THERE IS THAT no one has done that yet .... 5/10
Smeg I love the anime that your photo came from. It is funny and it is just so realistically mundane, that does not mean it's bad. It is rare to see an anime that really captures day to day things in real life and also is a slice of life.
Darkghost_ It's funny because the devs didn't use that at all and dumbasses just overreacted to nothing.
Darkghost_ I thought it was obvious that it was what it was from the start. People were calling it Postal Reloaded from the word 'go'. Was it ever going to be anything more than a cash grab riding the media wave of faux controversy? Hell, you can create a mass murder simulator until the cows come home. You want a controversial game? Show me John Wayne Gacey Simulator: The Untold Story. You can make a murdering child rapist seem sympathetic. THAT would be controversial. Not Death-splosion #889.
The Darkness: Bad Edition (without cool staff n' f*ckin' snakes).
The last 30 seconds of this video has explained everything I've thought about since I first heard about games.
Jesus Christ Yahtzee you ended a flame war in just five minutes...TEACH ME SENSAI!!!
That rant about modern political discourse at the end there was spot-on.
I remember when Hatred was called "State of Emergency" on the PS2...
But state of emergency was fun and cathartic.
@@Mr_T_Badger True, true. TBH, I haven't played SoE in years.
@@Vecchio_Rhosod85 Neither have I. Still got it, the PS2, and my game shark somewhere though.
@@Mr_T_Badger I think I still have my old PS2, too. But I don't see myself coming back to SoE anytime soon. Not because of its content (I still love controversial media and games to this day), but wasn't it basically just a high score game? I guess I grew out of it.
4:36 best analogy of internet discussions.... thank you
So that E3 review just not happening?
Yan Toha everything is a week later on youtube. He has a video about E3 up at the escapist.
Yan Toha www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/10185-E3-2015-Sony-Microsoft-Nintendo-Review
Yan Toha Check it out on the escapist website.
***** It's probably worth watching on the Escapist, as additional snark and content is included in the end credits, which are cut out on the RUclips version,
David Eastham Plus some extra thoughts on some of the games this time around. So yeah, catch it on The Escapist.
So, should the game be renamed, "American Power Fantasy"? Or maybe "American Foreign Policy"?
i'll give you an A for effort
I'm guessing you're a Japan obsessed white kid living in the local subdivisions?
Rank17Medic [PVZGW] Haha, not even close. Keep guessing :)
American school sim
My guess is that you are a Caucasian man from a European nation.
When this game came out all I could think was "Please let Yahtzee review this controversy sparking crap!!!! "?
I distinctly remember the main character said the line "My weapons are my only friend." That line was drowning in so much angst it was the funniest thing I've ever heard.
Hatred sounds like the poster game for angsty, "edgelords", as I've heard them referred to. A game where you can kill any and everyone, you say? Hm, doesn't such a game already exist? Oh, right, it's that ever popular and much more successful series Grand Theft Auto!
Also, I think the creator must've watched Uwe Boll's "masterpiece" Rampage one too many times. Honestly, I have no feelings towards the game except hilarious pity towards its creation/creator :)
4:36
That was the most perfect analogy I've ever heard.
My Opinion (Not like it matters)
Hatred isn't a bad game. It's just an okay game that had a fucking brilliant advertisement campaign. Why pay for publicity when you can simply get it by having the internet get offended by it, thus spreading it around and getting people interested. All I can say to the developers is, Well Played.
Ahh the Clarity of Zero Punctuation!
Love this Thursday tonic!
:-D
I believe, to an extent, that anything can be in a game, whether it was a real event ot not. I rarely see anyone saying that Battlefield 1 shouldn't have been made because it was based on an actual tragic event, because time will eventually heal everything. In an age where someone can make The Human Centipede and not have it be banned worldwide exists, I see no reason why, given the appropriate amount of time, someone couldn't make a game where you play as an al-Qeada troop who was vital to the 9/11 operation, as long as you don't actively disrespect the victims. If Battlefield 1 had been released a year after the war, everyone would have hated it for coming too soon, but time heals all tragedies eventually.
Yeah that's cool and all but the game sucks.
Man....30 ads really breaks my mood. 'Clicks on video with smile, sees ad, gets to the ACTUAL video with a frown'. Either way great video...
As usual, Yahtzee is dead right. Game wouldn't even be in the public spotlight if the video game naysayers had simply ignored it. Much like a certain female game critic, the more people hate it, the more popular and influential it became.
I forgot this game existed
I recently found your videos and have become a little obsessed.
This 5 min review is hundreds times more entertaining the game itself XD
Reminds me of the day the Public Prosecutor produced a list of 60 banned films in the UK. This included _The Evil Dead_, _The Witch Who Came from the Sea_, _Cannibal Holocaust_, and many more. People just used it as a hit-list of all the films they hadn't seen yet. Yippee.
#JeffreyCuddletrousers
#PleGuevara
One of the funniest reviews i’ve seen of his XD
I couldn’t stop laughing!
This game really does seem like postal without all the fun and self awareness
his name is actually Nathan Explosion formally of Dethklok fame, the government finally shut the band down, presumably for thousands of deaths associated with their concerts. with the loss of is his band and identity as a visionary vocalist of the largest band in the world. He tried to recover from this by starting the Explosion's on Broadway, though this would lead to only one track on the top 40, a raging condamnation of president Robert Redford and his senseless waste of money and lives on a stupid war on mars with what many called a fake attack on new york for a government seeking to take control of the masses and to take land from the martians with the aid of their blue ubermensch. however he would never attain the same level of success as with Dethklok, in fact he was surpassed by former band mate of Dethklok, Pickles and his reformed Snake N Barrels band, with many of his songs hitting the top 40, this must have devastated Nathan as he would fall into drink and despair only 2 years after starting his band. He was thinking at this time how do I get my name back out there, how do a make a comeback, he settled on the single biggest piece of performance art in the history of the United States, He would kill his way to a nuclear reactor and set it to blow, and the people would remember the name of Nathan Explosion for a thousand years, this act would set into motion the revelations that Dethklok would start the apocalypse, with the nuclear explosion started by one man being rather unbelievable, the blame was placed on the still functioning soviet union. Ozymandias would try to fix this but with suspicion that the war on mars was a lie, world war three was inevitable. Sorry kinda long lol
Let's see...
"The game" was at one point called Manhunt, Grand Theft Auto, Postal, Doom... any others I'm forgetting?
+Thenextworldwar MORTAL KOMBAT *techno music*
+Jambo Safari FIGHT!!
+Thenextworldwar Night Trap
+Thenextworldwar Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure. It was this game by a famous graffiti artist called Marc Ecko, so it basically wanted to be Jet Set Radio, one of those anarchist games like Red Faction, Just Cause and Carmageddon. That, and the fact it was released when the V for Vendetta movie started making its rounds, where it said 'Screw Parliament for being a bunch of xenophobic jingoistic assholes' which made sure that Contents Under Pressure was refused classification-in other words, banned in Australia for trying to be Jet Set Radio, which somehow got released despite the graffiti in there being used for vandalism. But then again, it was the 2000's, that weird dark age for gaming in Australia where R-18 ratings for games didn't exist and games that were trying to be both crazy and realistic at the same time, like Postal and Manhunt were given the boot as soon as either the first trailers for came out or a magazine or newspaper pointed out their existence.
Every once in a while I remember this game exists and that’s probably more than most people do.
Can I just throw out something that's been bugging the hell out of me? NOBODY said this game should be banned. Nobody. Zero people. Zero websites. Zero news articles. People said the game looked like whiny attention-seeking garbage made by twats, but nobody actually said, "Let's ban this!" Not a single person.
And yet to read the comments, you'll see several people proudly stating that they bought the game without even playing it, just to 'stick it to those social justice cunts'. Or 'to show the man he can't tell me what to do'.
Essentially the entire fanbase is a troll. You're not allowed to say anything negative about the game ever because if you are, you're just 'offended' or butthurt or trying to censor things which just drives them to give the developers more money, which apparently makes the developers geniuses.
... Remember when games got famous for being good?
"Gives less of a toss than a quadriplegic shot putter" I'M FUCKING DYING!
I never understood why this game was so controversial
Your finishing point so perfectly summed up games controversy, well done
4:55 Dropping truth bombs
4:37-5:24 is surprisingly relevant today.
Hatred you certainty will hate it
LOL! So funny from beginning to end. Especially with "Fire hot, ow!" :D
George Clooney puts on a hat
"gives less of a toss than a quadriplegic shot putter", this is why i watch these
4:32 "cough extra credits cough"
***** pfffffffff
***** This is why you never pass judgement on a game before it comes out, people!
Congrats. You've just thrown shit over the dividing wall.
4:37 to 4:55 is literally the most relevant statement anyone’s uttered in the last 100 years
Hatred wasn't that much different from Hotline. Except Hotline being fun to play for more than 5 minutes.
+Jedi Knight Also, HM had an interesting story, excellent soundtrack, and actually fun gameplay
MCHellshit and grips to get.
+MCHellshit I'd even argue violence from hotline miami had more impact on the player simple because it purposefully juxataposed the really bright retro pixel art style. Rather than Hatred's world which is always dark and sad.
Rock Steel I suppose it's how the violence is handled in Hotline that it comes off in a less edgy, angsty way and more of a psychotic anti-hero movie.
4:35
Jesus. That was the most perfect summing up of anything related to politics that I've ever heard.
Does this game have mod support? If so, can someone give the maincharacter sqeakyshoes?
Weird, I had a pair of those boots he used for the curb-stomp joke.
Just look into postal redux, much better.
Or hotline miami
And at least Postal was fairly self-aware at how ridiculous it was.
Holy Applebutter well Postal 2 onwards anyway
"Just call me 'Play Guevara'"
This is why I love you, Yahtzee.