The BMW F30 is Perfect for First-Time Conti Owners | EvoMalaysia
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Probably you can try to review something like secondhand B segment model for those people can't afford to buy brand new model because B segment cars are the best selling car in Malaysia.
Bmw 118i or 120i
BMW 118I and 120i (F20) which one is the best one?
Would love to see you feature the BMW E60!
@@blahblahblahhahaha8897 funny enough, I am working on this car
Thanks Kon for the video. Very informative, on-point and well articulated. Thank you.
honestly the best F30 is the facelift with the B48 engine, because i own one and the only most expensive repair i had to do was change the belt and vibration dampener for 1500. After that, no issues 136k KM no issues because the B48 is proven to be very reliable compared to N20 which is honestly a bad unreliable motor, FYI B48 is co developed by Toyota which is also used in the Supra 2.0
Oh, the B48 is miles superior. Put it this way, BMW deemed the B48 good enough for the 7 Series, but the N20 went no higher than the 5 Series.
What about b38?
Absolutely great video, love how you went into detail on the f30 generation and especially the 318-328i range. I’ve owned my 2015 320i for just over a year and a half now and it’s given me absolutely no problems what so ever.it is more than enough power In terms of a daily driver. Hard to find videos on my car that aren’t basic dealership reviews so this was very nice. Respect from New York 👍🏽
Hello there! Glad you enjoyed the video. Wishing you a pleasant ownership experience 😊
Thanks Kon, very clear explanation.
Informative and neat reviews about F30 models. Great efforts to put in all the information in this vlog and love the summary table of F30 models. Well done, Kon.
Thanks for watching. Are you considering to buy one?
thanks for doing this
Thanks for watching!
Still owning a pre facelift N 20 F30 .The car is still running superb.
Nice. The N20 is not as desirable as the B48, but is still a decent engine in its own right if well-maintained
Looks like I'll be hunting for the B48s ... I love the looks of the F30 ... That to me is the ultimate 3 series look. When I watched this, my wife thought that this was a Proton 😂😂😂😂
Yes, the interior is quite Proton 😄
3:42 The dreaded bimmer chime got Kon looking at the meter panel 🤣
Oh, that was the low fuel warning.
I would love to know more about owning a 330e f30 , what are the things to be aware of and more abt the car for long term owning
I will buy a f30 after finishing my iriz loan . Perhaps 328i with sport trim . I just love the f30
Good choice!
Nice review man...agreed f30 320i lci is my preferred pick as well
Buy!
@@KonWaiLuen err no thanks....saving up for a G20 m340i...call me old fashioned but imho my preference a 3series powertrain has to be in a straight six... configuration
Same here. In love with the G20 design
Spot on! Yup, b48 easy to maintain, spare parts easy to get even at shopee. The parts price not that huge difference compare to japan's brand except the labour fees are so expensive.
Can consider f20 1series too if space is not a concern. They both share lots of parts.
Yes, F20 can consider also, but selection of engines not as nice la.
Thank for Sharing
My pleasure. Buying?
@@KonWaiLuen Hi Kon , for now serve for F30 320i lci m sport, after take the car which one parts need to chg ?
love your thoughts in all of your videos.. however, i must say, please consider upgrading your phone.. it will enhance our viewing pleasure instantly.. thanks boss
Thanks for the feedback. Will study more on this.
Great info and review. You mentioned tuning to increase the horsepower - where/who is recommended? Any common problems after tuning - like messes with the electronics etc?
My friends at DNA Tuning have an excellent track record with regards to engine tuning.
Hi Kon
Lovely review as always
Appreciate your opinion on 2015 pre-facelift F30 320d M Sport as a first BMW for a young single guy.
Thanks in advance Bro
Buy
Kon punya speech dgn presentation best, sedap dengar (tqvm for the summary table of the F30 models). Cuma kadang bila dia join video dengan kawan2 aurizn, dia macam tenggelam sikit. Mungkin dalam future collab, Bobby and the gang kena bagi ruang sikit pada the smart guy Kon bagi lebih structured perbincangan diorang.
Terima kasih untuk feedback. Haha.
i second this. kon punya presentation very well structured and i like the way he chose his words.concise and on point. but unfortunately tula, bila ramai2 kon jadi pendiam pulak😆
Betul boss hari tu i pernah komen bila bobby ada kon mcm tenggelam but this week bobby tak ada dia dpt bersinar mungkin dia perlukan space
my family owns a bmw x1, sdrive20i with the b48 and aisin 8 speed gb. thr b48 in this guise is probably the max power i'll ever need for a daily car. its already so quick and brisk!
i do note, however, that it does guzzle fuel. i feel like maybe the b38 powered f30 would be the even better daily driver d/t the better projected fuel efficiency haha
You may be surprised, the fuel economy gains with the B38 may not be significant as the engine is actually worked much harder compared to the B48.
The external noise is quite intrusive. Looks like i have to live with it. For the 328i, Drive, power transmission good. Suspension, brakes soft. Needs upgrade. Common issues can be settled as long as willing to pay. I rather have the option to pay than not having the option to rectify at all.
That's right. The F30 is not without issues, but almost all are easily solvable.
Hi Kon! Thumbs up! Very good introduction of BMW F30.
Btw, can recommend me a reliable with reasonable price workshop within Klang valley that able to maintain my current ride F30 320d 2012
Can try between Prestige Car Care and Munich Precision
Roof liner caving in as usual 😂. Anyway I would go for the 316i as there's not much difference specs wise and that 1.6T prince engine is very low maintenance. Power wise just do a remap.
This one can fix at Top Cushion Kg Melayu Subang.
Thank you for excellent review of F30. I am looking for 320d, but worried about maintenance, as it is less 320d in the market. Is there big difference in maintenance between 320d and 320i.
320d gives you significant fuel savings daily. And you don't have to worry about spark plugs and ignition coils. Give my team a buzz at 012-488 0367 if you'd like us to help you scout some units
Hi Kon. TQ for your effort in making informative videos like this. Can i ask if your pointers on the F30 is applicable, mostly, on the F36 430i GCoupe as well?
Yes, absolutely! Have you found one?
@@KonWaiLuen im currently a mazda3 owner, and thanks to you and your time every monday, i might be thinking of a conti for my next rider. 🤝
Nice video! My first time planning using conti car so I'm a bit confused here. Would you recommend F30 316i 2015 mileage 85k+ ? & for the maintenance will it burden me in future?
Better get a 320i bro
LCi models definitely look better especially the real lights. Too bad not many 330i around while the 330e is cheap but scary to buy
One thing's for sure, BMW got the F30's design and proportions spot on. Hence why the facelift was only subtly changed from the pre-facelift model.
Am in the market looking for F30 and came across your video, side from the known timing chain issue which can easily be replaced at workshop, is there any things to be taking into consideration when getting a pre-facelift 320i/ 328i?
Refresh the cooling system
Gua baru nak jual after 6 years of ownership. Some say the b48 is much reliable but I don’t think so. Maybe I’m the unlucky one. Car been towed twice due to the spare tank connecting pipe burst. Lot of problem here and there too but normally can be settled within the warranty period.
Sorry to here about your experience. What is the next car you're moving on to?
@@KonWaiLuen ppl around keep ask me get an Alphard(recon) due to growing family. But my heart ask me to try another conti(W206) 😔 dilemma.
Go with your heart!!
Completely wrong about the retrofit part. I’m not sure about the F30 but I have had 2 F10s. Almost all the options that you want to retrofit you need to add the wiring and module. For example my first F10 did not have rear view camera…we had to do the wiring and then buy a rear view camera module and the camera itself. For comfort access…there are many antennas and they are all not present in the car except one to enable keyless start. I’m sure F30 would have been similar case. And forget about other options like HUD, lane change warning etc…definitely need lot of wiring and module and coding to be done.
With so few f30 in malaysia running b48 engine, are parts still readily available? And problems well documented?
There aren't many F30 on B48 engine, but the B48 engine itself is aplenty in Malaysia. So parts are still abundant
Hello kon,
Can use show how to use panuc alarm to locate f30 parking? Is the door and car boot equiped panic alarm? In case people ply open boot or break window glass to open door. Tqvm
I think Malaysia spec F30 did not have alarms.
Would you recommend going for 318i facelift or 320i pre-face lift?
320i pre-FL for me
Would you make a video of LCI 320d vs 320i. Part of your video gave a notion of 320d is not preferred. Can you tell more
The 320d is a good option. Go for it. I'd be happy to video a 320d if one comes my way.
Kon, this is a good review video for those hunting for F30 LCI 320I, btw do you advise buyers to get the car from BMW premium selection which include 360 degree check and 72 point checks? Heard a lot of horror stories that some 2nd hand car dealer are not honest and problematic cars. Thanks.
Premium Selection? Absolutely highly recommended
what are your thoughts on the 318i's engine reliability compared to the b48 and b58 ?
The only thing I like about the 318i is that the lighter engine gives the car a sharper nose on turn in. Otherwise, you're better off with a 320i everytime.
Hi kon it is okay maintenace for F30 320i 2015..Good idea to buying ?
Absolutely ok
2018 BMW 318i vs Mazda CX30, Kon what do u think?
The 318i handles better, but the CX-30 exudes higher quality and sophistication
Hi Kon, I own an E39 do you have any workshop recommendation for servicing.
Syed in PJ Old Town, or Vixx Customs Batu Caves.
M Speed USJ ..
@@alvin5603 can you share some personal experience with this workshop? I have not used them before.
It’s the regular workshop for my E46 .. you can try visit them and see .. very quick repairing time because they are really master at repairing BMW and good quality works too .. take good car of customer car .. they will clean the engine cover and apply door seal conditioner after doing servicing works .. small gestures but makes a huge difference ..
Hi kon, better to get f30 320i b48 and remap or 328i n20? Looking for a reliable powerful ride
I would lean towards the B48
6 potter n55 engine is the preferred choice for power
What about buying the F10 in Q2 coming to Q3 of 2023
Should be good, since G60 is out, F10 values may take a dip.
Hey Kon are used cars in Johor generally cheaper than in other parts of Msia?
Listing wise yes, but check for processing fees
@@KonWaiLuen thanks!
@@KonWaiLuen why johor car cheaper?
I was thinking of trying to move on from the W124, W210, W212 that I have to a BMW but not sure which is suitable the F10 and F30. For daily driving and occasional long distance out station drive. F10 or F30?
Coming from three generations of the E-Class, F10 definitely makes more sense. If budget permits, get a 535i, will be a bigger upgrade from your W212.
@@KonWaiLuenf10 grand turismo 535i it's great choice for first timer?for someone who one big car with 6cylinder?
kon was 330e f30 was ok?
See luck. Some have problem free cars, some face electronics and battery issues
Just a question the 320d made in 2014 is using what engine the b48 or something else
2014 320d would be the older N47 engine. Still a good powertrain
@@KonWaiLuen thanks for the reply boss I’m contemplating between the 320d preferably the 2015 model or the 328gt in your humble opinion what would you recommend… love the diesel for its fuel economy love the gt for the rear passenger space and I also kind of dig the look
@@anildeepsingh509 look for a 320d GT? They sold those too
I want space i.e, F10...but i want B48 also...how then? pls shed some light...i'm in the dark. 😢
G30 lor. Haha.
Bro is 2017 318i equally reliable? 65k worth buying?
320i still better, but RM65k is a good price.
Than you!
318i 2017 still worth to buy in 2023? Any major problems?
Major problems no, but you really are better off with a 320i
Hi coming a lesser car like myvi,vios if i were to go with 318i isit okay? It would be step up in terms of power already for me
@@faizafiq4159 it would be an upgrade for sure
I feel like going for the F10 would be a wiser choice simply because its bigger and more spacious. Just that compared to F30 interior, it may look a bit outdated in my opinion haha but market price if not mistaken are quite similar depending on the area of the car registered..
Actually yes, F10 is even more worth it.
@@KonWaiLuen f10 is perfect car to go in my pov, interior size comparable to nowadays c segment sedan like my civic fe...f30 is just too tight, perhaps if the agility of lighter body is his main concern then 3series will be the right choice, but then the sturdiness of f10 during high speed cruising is no match so i would recommend the former 5series all day long~
F30 Buying list:
LCI:
320i
220D
330i
Pre-LCI:
320i
328i
possible to mod the f30 to drop the rear seats for larger storage space?
You mean split folding seats? Overseas forums say it can be done, but you will need to have the seat backs, seat cushion, and also the latch mechanism. May need to change rear parcel shelf to accommodate this.
@@KonWaiLuen yes, that's the biggest minus for F30 IMO. Thanks Kon!
There’s retrofit out there selling foldable backseats for F30
Or u can backseat delete less weight more faster😁
@@jasonkiang4955 good idea for underpowered 316i lol
F30 318i for daily? Upgrade from Myvi
Try a 320i la
@@KonWaiLuen haha.. want b series engine😂 dont dare touch 330e at all
Is there reverse camera? Car alarm? Foldable rear seats? Pls help. F30 320i
In Malaysia market, no to all the above. All can be retrofitted, but quite costly if you want to go through it.
If i do retire in KL
This f30 will be my pick someday if it's 20k or less
Ez to convert
However if i choose to retire elsewhere like in Rural Sarawak/Sabah
A Toyota/honda shud be the smarter choice
May be some years before it hits RM20k. Tell E90 is still around the RM30k-RM40k mark.
328 m sport ❤
These cost a bit more, but still decently affordable.
Hahha.. Try look at the reliability of the 316, bought brand new and after 3 years, falling apart. Oil leak common issue. And the repair bills by autobavaria will easily come up to 15k to 20k plus for repairs. Good luck in recommending to those 2nd buyers, is as good as voluntarily picking up repair bills. If want to own this f30 at this age of the car, highly recommend to standby minimum of 10k for the inpromtu repair bills. If you are not willing/don't have the spare, just go for the yota or honda kind.
The 316i has been reputed to have questionable reliability, which is why I strongly advocate people to go at a minimum for the 320i.
Yes European has the luxury to spec their car as they wish. This is what i learn from watching British car reviews. Just our market just to small to justify for them do the same thing. Does this genaration have the same annoying indicator stalk?
There's also a paperwork issue. You see, the more variations you offer, each different variation you have to submit docket pricing for customs to calculate the duties for the car. All these add to manpower cost which, I assure you, the car manufacturers will pass on to the consumer.
The F30's indicator stalk is the one where you press, it immediately self-centres.
timing chain issues, oil filter gasket leak will cause coolant mix with engine oil destroying the engine, transmission cooler crack will cause coolant to enter gearbox due to cheap plastic components short lifespan. Unless the previous owner has done these items recently, these could cause wallet to explode 😂..Contis are to be bought new and after 5 years let them go..
Good, you pay all the tax for new and I get to buy from you after 5 years at less than half the price 🤣
May be I should do a follow up video on common BMW N20 issues 🤔
@@KonWaiLuen looking forward
This is why its better to buy the LCI F30 with the B48 engine
@@MaverickEchoJuliet oh.... F30 B48 is absolutely the best to go for if you can find one.
Summary really there is only 1 important info
- ALWAYS GET THE B48 ENGINE. DO NOT BUY THE PRE FACELIFT N SERIES ENGINE.
The B48 engine is a multifold improvement over the N20. Put it this way, the B48 is good enough for the 7 Series, the N20 was not.
@@KonWaiLuen what year of 320i are we talking about if i want to get the b48 engine?
@@syafiqrosdi3709 mostly 2016. 2017 was when 330e came out.