thanks for the upload. I thought the sander would use regular sandpaper like my Dad used. Good to know it's like a precut piece of screen and easy to load. You're the only chanel that showed that, really appreciate the thought put into the process and knowing what a novice needs in a teaching video.
Thanks!! Really glad I was able to help :) Dont forget to get about 4 sandpaper grids. also watch out for any nails or screws. Go over your deck prior to starting and make sure all nails/screws are below the sanding line.
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It’s recommended to keep the cord up and over your shoulder, and behind you, so you’re not tripping over it and having to work around it.Sanding is definitely the best option if the wood is in poor condition. I use Armstrong Clark oil based stain, So my yearly deck prep consist of mopping it with a little bit of so be water using Dawn dish soap. That’s it. Then, if it does need a new coat of stain, I just wait for it to dry and roll on the stain with a paint roller, and brush in the edges. So easy. I would never use any other product. It’s also pet safe. And since it’s an oil based stain, it actually stains and protects the wood. Impossible for it to peel, because there’s nothing to peel up. The deck that I am having to sand, I used an acrylic “stain” on it, and it wasn’t inexpensive stuff. It’s an older deck, in a different part of the yard, and of course it peels and looks like hell, very high maintenance and not worth it at all. am going to sand it and use the Armstrong Clark. I’ve learned my lesson. And for those wondering, these decks go through extreme temperatures of high heat and extreme cold and snow and ice, and my Armstrong Clark deck looks great, Because it’s a piece of cake to maintain. I would never pressure wash it, they told me to not use anything on it that I wouldn’t wash my car with, so I just use a good old fashioned deck mop. The Dawn dish soap cuts through any grease and dirt, give it a good rinse with just the regular hose, no harsh pressure. Hi baby the word when it comes to cleaners and rinsing it, everything mild is key. I wash it like it’s fine china, and it thanks me for it. Doesn’t hurt to use an outdoor rug over your high traffic areas as well, looks good, and helps maintain your wood.
Wow, I just love how Siri/YT changes words when you hit reply....Typos galore. Like I was saying, they said not to pressure wash it because it’s hard on the wood grain, and not to use anything on the wood as far as product or scrubbers that you wouldn’t use on your car’s paint job. Hence the Dawn soapy water and a deck mop. And that’s “baby the wood”, keep it mild, be gentle on it, use the right product, and you won’t find yourself having to sand and re-stain very often, and when you do, it will be as easy as mopping your floors.
A Deck Sander is recommended for deck sanding. A Square Buff Sander is only recommended for interior wood floors. Using a Square Buff Sander on an interior floor, you have the options to move the sander from left to right, right to left, forward and backward, backward to forward, and diagonal. Using a Square Buff Sander on a deck then you have only one option from left to right and right to left. Make sure all screws and nails are below the surface before sanding. I know this since I work at a Home Depot Tool Rental Center.
Thanks for the info, yah it can really only go left to right, right to left so true. I have been using the square buff sander for years, happy with the results. Might try the deck sander, i'll check it out this year.
Home depot has a deck sander with a weight kit, it will do a far better and faster job than the square butf machine you are using.. I looked quickly but did not see a note for what grit screen you used. guessing 80-100 grit. . Older decks with more cupping on the boards the square buff would be a very slow process but to power wash to remove most or all of the old finish leaves the deck fuzzy from the wood fibers being blasted with water.. so a light sanding is needed.. I think you lead people to belevie the sanding made the job look good.. when in fact, you power washed removing most of the finish and then a light touch up sand after the wood has dried from a week to 2 weeks depending on the area
Nice video I use Rymar Extreme Weather Wood Sealer Stain $80 gal but last for years last time in did my deck was at least 6 years. Needs it now.. I will do the sanding trick... much better results for sure.. I have Cedar deck that's 20 yrs old.
If you have some larger cracks, or holes, you should use a wood filler to fill them in. I recommend doing this first, before you sand. AND, if you have a board that is somewhat bad, you could try turning it over, vs buying a new one. If the bottom side is in good condition, flipping it over can save you from buying a new piece of wood.
Very true, a quick flip is a great idea! I have moved on from wood, redoing my deck with composite. Decided no more yearly sanding/waterproofing is worth the extra cost of the composite.
If the deck is painted, does the paint have to be stripped off first? I’ve been using chemical paint stripper to remove the paint and it is such a pain. Plus it is expensive because so much is needed. Someone told me to just sand it off and I don’t know if that is something that can or should be done.. thanks ahead of time and thanks for the info and education with this video.
Yes, def go for sanding first. You might have to replace some boards, but It will be way less expensive than replacing the deck. Just make sure you have alll the nails/screws down. Those will tear up the sandgrid quick.
If you're sanding your deck every "year to 2 years"...you're obviously using a cheap or non lasting sealer such as Thompsons.....I sealed my deck 5 years ago with Cabot Australian Oil and it is still vibrant to this day !
How long did this stain last you ? You don’t have to use any type of brightening agents or cleaning agents to remove mildew etc ? I heard Thompsons do not last very long on any deck?
Yes, thompsons has to be reapplied each year for the best protection. I did not use any brightening agents, the sanding brings out a new top layer of wood, so it looks great again.
Thank you for this informative video. You advise to move the sander in the direction of the wood grain, but then, after one sweep, you turn around and go back over the same area in the opposite direction. Doesn't this conflict with the recommendation to go with the grain? What am I misunderstanding? Thanks.
I have really old deck 20 plus years old. Not been touched. What steps do you recommend to restore it? What type of sander? Thanks for video. Really good but your deck is well maintained. Ours needs alot of work. Thank you!
Hi, well the first thing is you are going to have to check the boards for wood rot. If any boards are soft and squishie they will probably need to be replaced. Do it your self, just take one board at a time out. If you don't replaced the boards that are bad it won't look good unfortunately. Take your time, don't try an finish it all in one weekend. So basically you need a good base, and that's good wood, no warping or rot.
It might but you would need to get a smaller grit..say a 60 or 80. Then go higher after you get most of it off to make it smooth. Or you can rent a drum sander..that will take it off quick.
You are correct, their are quite a few cracks. Unfortunately I really can't do anything to fix it. With the elements the wood expands and contracts that any wood filler would not really work well. Eventually I will need to replace the bad boards individually.
yes, not sure if 2 days is enough time. Depends on the outside temp and how much sunlight reaches the deck. Make sure you go over your deck to hammer/screw down any nails/screws. Other wise if they are up they will tear the sandpaper screen.
@@CarlosVasquez ya, i did the walk around and there's a bunch of screws up, previous person used screws that are only penetrating about a 1cm into the bottom piece. i'm no expert, but i'm pretty sure thats wrong and will likely have to replace all the screws. thanks bro.
Great idea.... I used that horrible home Depot deck-over by Rust-Oleum. It's peeling everywhere and a lot came off with a power washer. Do you think this method will work? There's only one or two coats on it?
Yes, it will work. Get some lower grit screens to get it off quickly. Then go over it with 120 grit screens to make it smooth. After it's all done blow it off with a leaf blower then apply the Thompson water proofer. It will look nice again! Make sure you get all the screws and nails below the sand line first or it will tear the sand grid.
Hola Carlos, Tengo una maquina similar, y los q la usaron rajaron la base metálica q soporta la lija. Y además los bujes o resortes de jebe están resecos. Donde consigo los repuestos. También la almohadilla negra y roja. Gracias de antemano Tu Respuesta.
Does sanding a deck once its dried and with sun beating down, encourage the grain to come up ripply and uneven ? Years ago I sanded mine with an orbital sander, and eventually the surface came really uneven, with bits of wood coming up almost in shards. That makes me hesitant to do it again.
Over the years I have not had any issues with it becoming uneven or wood shards. Now I do always waterproof it after sanding. Maybe that has helped over the years.
You stated in this video you used sandpaper. But after reviewing the video on the home Depot website it looks like you're using a screen instead of a sandpaper is that true. Thanks Nancy
Unfortunately, we inherited a painted wood deck when we moved here. It's a pain to maintain. I'd love to be able to sand off the paint and apply a stain/sealer to it. Will this machine remove the paint by itself? Or do I still need stripper as well? Thanks for the video!
You will need another type of sander. Home depot rents a drum sander for the floor. It will remove the paint, but you have to keep it moving, can not let it stay in one place. It will take the paint right off, except between the wood. That is the real pain, you can leave the paint or get a chemical remover for the paint the drum sander can not reach.
My deck is about the same size as yours and I need to do that. I want to know how long it takes you to do it ? Por favor, le agradezco su cooperación. Muchisimas gracias....Tank you very much....
I would say about 45 min. So the 4 hr rental time from home depot is plenty of time. After your done sanding, get a leaf blower to clear off all the dust. Then apply your waterproofer.
Great video ! Want the grain to POP out ! Use 3 parts Boil Linseed Oil, 2 Parts Thompson Oil Based Water Seal , 1 Part Paint Thinner. Mix Thoroughly - Give the wood more depth.
Great job. Will this sander tend to get hung up if it hits a nail? It seems like an obvious question but just want to know for sure before I rent so I could recess nails. Thx. Steve, Plymouth, MA
No, what will happen is it will rip the sandpaper grid. So you have to make sure all the nails/screws are in, either hammer or drill them a little below the surface. Not a big deal, just a little prep goes a long way. How big is your deck?
Well if you have splinters sticking out, first your going to have to address it. You may need to remove the splinter wood pieces, i just do not know how bad. Once those are cleared up you may need a more aggressive sander, belt type, they are rented at home depot as well. This belt sander/drum sander are directional, also have to keep them moving, can not stand still with them. The mold issue, will I would power wash it all off, then do a bleach mix afterwards. Then once its all dry do the sanding and waterproofing. Good luck, you can do it!
I know this is a very old comment but was wondering what you ended up doing? I went with the drum sander because my boards are all warped and bowed. It worked pretty well although I had to go against the grain in a lot of spots because of the unevenness of the boards.
I just got done applying Behr semi transparent stain to unfinished yellow pine pressure treated. The deck was built a year ago. I washed it first let it dry completely for a day in the 80 deg heat. Applied it (16 x 16) to the deck with a pad two coats and let it fry for 4 days. Then I wheeled my grill on it and the stain was lifting with my wheels. When testing how it can be removed, it peels off easy with a orbital hand sander. The stain or acrylic never penetrated the wood. The paper did not even clog up. Do you think this machine can remove the coating even if I have to buy more pads? Thank you
Hi, my deck looks grey and weathered with old flaking sealant. I pressure washed it, thinking to sand it now. Do you apply a brightener before the sealant? Which products do you recommend?
nice job--couple of questions--I assume you went over the entire deck and hammered down any nails sticking up? What kind of wood? why did you choose to waterproof over staining? thanks.
hi, yes you have to make sure there are no nails/screws sticking out. The wood is pressure treated wood, not sure the type. Staining does protect the wood from water. Now Thompson and olmypic does make a tinted wood protector. Plain stain does not have any waterproofing properties.
Great video and good info on what the weight is and how the sanding pad is used. One thing I thought was off was you spinning around and fighting that cord. Why not just go from one end to the other then move to the next boards and go back the other way. I have to think you did it that way so you were facing the camera but I don't know that for sure.
Glad you like the video! Well the sander prefers to go one direction, there is a bit of resistance when I try going the other way. I will be making a new deck video soon. Is there any thing you might want me to show in the new video?
Great video, thank you. I was thinking about one of these machines as well but wasn't sure how to operate it. I'm not handy as you can tell. What kind of sandpaper do you use so that it is smooth enough without destroying the wood. I see you don't use deck stain?
Thank you. I use 120grit sandpaper grids. Smooth enough for me. You can also go higher if you want. No stain, just thompson water sealer clear. I like the natural look.
Our contractor says that he's going to "lightly" sand our deck even through the paint currently there is peeling and the entire deck is weathered. Should I have them do something different?
Ah you have a painted deck correct? If so you will need to sand off or use a paint removal chemicals to get the old paint off. Your contractor is correct, you will need to get all that old paint off. One of the reasons not to use paint on decks, always a pain to deal with as they age. Best to go natural or a stain once the paint is gone.
For paint get a floor belt sander,(think it's called that) it's rented at home depot too. It an agressive sander so you have to keep it moving, can not let it stay in one place.
I just did mine and had to remove solid stain which is basically paint. I rented the drum sander from home Depot and it worked really well. This was also necessary because my boards are all warped and uneven so I needed something that could get down into the valley's.
Thank you I think even I could do this! Being a woman at all LOL. This morning I went out to my deck with my sandpaper my scraper my wire brush my regular brush and was totally overwhelmed. Now that I’ve seen your video Home Depot here I come . What I had in mine was priming it and then painting it. I have already bought both. The water seal seems beautiful and much easier. Maybe I’ll use this on my front deck and my back deck which is huge I can do the water seal. Thank you and what do you think?
Hi, well I would avoid painting the floor. The issues to me is whenever you put any type of furniture or decorations eventually it will be dragged. Then your paint will get scratched up then flake, just not worth it in my opinion. Instead of paint maybe a stain, lots of colors available. Easy to apply and gives you color. If you go with stain, you still will need to apply waterproofing on top. Hopefully that helps.
All the manufacturers of pressure treated lumber don’t advise sanding their wood due to the release of fine particles of the preservative chemical into the air. Copper being one ingredient which is harmful to the soil and plants and maybe arsenic, back when pressure treated lumber first was marketed. Check to see when your deck was built to determine if it contains arsenic. If it does, don’t sand it.
Thanks Michael for the info. Good thing my deck was built after 2003, so no arsenic. I will do another video this year, but I will make sure that I have a respirator on and let everyone know they need to wear one too when sanding. Thanks again.
beautiful. I used berh deck over. the first year it was good. now paint is chipping and coming up. so I powered washed it. now guy has to sand it. because of class action lawsuit against berh paint of decks.
I use 120 grit on the whole deck. Now if your deck has more weathering you can go to 80 grit. Make sure you have no nails/screws sticking up past the sand line or it will rip the sand grid. About the hand held, not worth it, tough on your back,knees and hands. It would take hours with the hand held.
@@CarlosVasquez Much thanks! I read that you don't want to go finer than 80 grit as the finer you go it will make the wood less porous and it absorb the stain/seal as well. Not sure how accurate that is....what are your thoughts?
@@andrewgraham3658 Oh, well never had an issue with stain or waterproofer working with 120grit. Your information might be correct, but it's not noticable in my option.
I want to remove the Home Depot Deckover paint from my deck. Very thick coating but starting to peel and wear. Will this sander do the job? Anything I need to do beforehand? Appreciate the help, thanks.
You will need a beltsander, they rent them too. Its quite quick, so just keep it moving. You might look into a chemical removal too, might be easer to get that deckover paint off with just a scraper. Good luck with your project.
I tried renting this machine, but it kept shutting off every few seconds ... I assume because of the mouton of power it was using. I went back to the store and exchanged it for another mating and it did the same thing. How did you hook it up so that it didn't continuously go out or blow a fuse?
Same thing happened to me. So I ran it from the washer machine room. The outlet there was in a 20amp circuit, the problem went away. Try different outlets. Make sure if your using an extension cord it has to be the same guage or larger guage wire. That will also cause the machine not to work.
Well yes its should be able to get the top layer off. You might need to go to a more aggressive grit, maybe a 60 or 80. Then finish with a 120 to smooth it out. Make sure you have no nail heads/screws sticking up and any wood splinters. It will chew up the grid paper if you do.
Great video! I noticed a few boards are getting some weather cracking but they almost add a beautiful texture to the deck after you sanded and waterproofed it! Great video
Hi, Came across your video on this deck project. Would this sander be good to remove old paint from floor deck boards? I have to repaint the deck floor boards. I will do a soft wash first to remove any mold. Any information will be helpful. Thanks
hi, well you could but it will take quite some time. Home depot has another sander, its a belt sander/floor sander. Think its about the same price. Just remember not to keep it in the same place or it could take too much off, its a more aggressive sander.
I rented this machine for my deck and it was horrible. This sander is not meant to be used on outdoor decks. This sander went through 4 sand paper pads in about 10 minutes. Each of the sand paper pads costs about 8 dollars. If you're planning on sanding your outdoor deck I suggest using a orbital Deck Sander.
My guess is your deck wood planks had nails or wood pieces that were not flush. This would explain why it ripped the sandpaper grids. Your deck board had to be corrected somewhat prior to using the sander. You might need a drum sander, which is very aggressive. About orbital sanders..sure they would work but it will take hours and hours to do a deck. Good luck on your choice.
I have a few redwood boards that have rotted and need to be changed out. The other pieces look pretty good and were previously painted years ago. After I sand it do I use a primer then paint or primer mixed paint?
Would have like to have scene it after sanding before sealing I bet there was not a big difference between power washing and sanding or you would have showed it what was it like if and where you sealed it after washing that's what we want to see and make our opinion
Power washing is just cleaning, but when you sand wood it removes the top layer to give you a fresh layer of wood. I use to just power wash it and apply waterproofer. It just never looks new/fresh wood. So if you want it to look fresh then sand it. If not, then it's ok too..it just won't look as good. The effort pays off always.
Wish I had watched this video before beginning my project. I thoroughly sanded first with type of equipment you rented and went over it again with a belt sander. Unfortunately I didn’t power wash first. Is power washing now still a good idea? I know power washing can leave the boards a little gritty, But I have no interest in sanding a third time. Can I get away with just scrub washing the deck with deck cleaner or even just blowing all the dust off with a blower?
Not sure you need to, how does it look? If it looks clean I would just leave it alone. If you do power wash, just keep the wand moving, it you stay in one place you can damage the wood. My power washer is not that powerful, also I use the attachment that has a broad stream, so not to cut into the wood.
Can you add color stain over the water sealer? thanks for the video! I just pressure washed mine, and it doesn't look as good, so I'm thinking of doing the sander.
Think it is the other way around. Stain your deck wait for it to completely dry then put on water sealer. The stain won't protect wood. But double check the stain instructions on how to protect.
My deck use to be painted a few years ago. I used a belt sander from home Depot. That sander is more agressive so you have to keep it moving, it can not stay in on place. The belt sander is how I would do it. The chemicals I do not like, they work but super messy and not good for runoff either.
Why did you turn around every time when you switched direction? Wouldn't it have just been easier to stay racing the same way? The cord would have been less of an issue then.
Its not necessary for sure. Kind of fun to do when you sit back afterwards and your deck looks new. I have actually switch to a composite decking now. So I dont have to do it anymore :)
I'm in the process of removing paint from my deck right now. I started with a belt sander, and realized that even with 36 grit sandpaper, it was going to take a long time. So I got a planer. The planer is much quicker, but at this point I feel like it's worth it to just disassemble the deck so I can ensure there are no screws my planer will hit. And that's where I'm at, is assembling my deck. I'm learning a lot and it's a lot of work, but I think it's worth it to conserve lumber and restore this 30yr-old deck. My plan is to fill holes, plane, sand, stain, and steal the components before I put them back together.
Tig D ! A few cool things i learned about... 1. Can you flip the board over? Should be less breakdown, etc 2. Also,I purchased this wood softener repair stuff. Basically, it hardens wood,reading reviews this guy used it on his very old and warn deck with cracks,etc. Said it worked amazing. 3. I have oil based stain on my deck..and a shed. The deck will get the sander,the shed i will use this amazing wax stripper i purchased on Amazon. It was purchased to remove years of mop and glow that NOTHING else would touch!!!! It removes this stain like butter!
thanks for the upload. I thought the sander would use regular sandpaper like my Dad used. Good to know it's like a precut piece of screen and easy to load. You're the only chanel that showed that, really appreciate the thought put into the process and knowing what a novice needs in a teaching video.
Thanks!! Really glad I was able to help :) Dont forget to get about 4 sandpaper grids. also watch out for any nails or screws. Go over your deck prior to starting and make sure all nails/screws are below the sanding line.
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It’s recommended to keep the cord up and over your shoulder, and behind you, so you’re not tripping over it and having to work around it.Sanding is definitely the best option if the wood is in poor condition. I use Armstrong Clark oil based stain, So my yearly deck prep consist of mopping it with a little bit of so be water using Dawn dish soap. That’s it. Then, if it does need a new coat of stain, I just wait for it to dry and roll on the stain with a paint roller, and brush in the edges. So easy. I would never use any other product. It’s also pet safe. And since it’s an oil based stain, it actually stains and protects the wood. Impossible for it to peel, because there’s nothing to peel up.
The deck that I am having to sand, I used an acrylic “stain” on it, and it wasn’t inexpensive stuff. It’s an older deck, in a different part of the yard, and of course it peels and looks like hell, very high maintenance and not worth it at all. am going to sand it and use the Armstrong Clark. I’ve learned my lesson. And for those wondering, these decks go through extreme temperatures of high heat and extreme cold and snow and ice, and my Armstrong Clark deck looks great, Because it’s a piece of cake to maintain. I would never pressure wash it, they told me to not use anything on it that I wouldn’t wash my car with, so I just use a good old fashioned deck mop. The Dawn dish soap cuts through any grease and dirt, give it a good rinse with just the regular hose, no harsh pressure. Hi baby the word when it comes to cleaners and rinsing it, everything mild is key. I wash it like it’s fine china, and it thanks me for it. Doesn’t hurt to use an outdoor rug over your high traffic areas as well, looks good, and helps maintain your wood.
Wow, I just love how Siri/YT changes words when you hit reply....Typos galore. Like I was saying, they said not to pressure wash it because it’s hard on the wood grain, and not to use anything on the wood as far as product or scrubbers that you wouldn’t use on your car’s paint job. Hence the Dawn soapy water and a deck mop. And that’s “baby the wood”, keep it mild, be gentle on it, use the right product, and you won’t find yourself having to sand and re-stain very often, and when you do, it will be as easy as mopping your floors.
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Great job! Thanks! Especially for not wasting time talking off topic!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Looks great! Is your deck cedar or pressure treated pine?
We are thinking about doing this too.
It was pressure treated wood, 20x6 boards. Long pieces for sure.
A Deck Sander is recommended for deck sanding. A Square Buff Sander is only recommended for interior wood floors. Using a Square Buff Sander on an interior floor, you have the options to move the sander from left to right, right to left, forward and backward, backward to forward, and diagonal. Using a Square Buff Sander on a deck then you have only one option from left to right and right to left. Make sure all screws and nails are below the surface before sanding. I know this since I work at a Home Depot Tool Rental Center.
Thanks for the info, yah it can really only go left to right, right to left so true. I have been using the square buff sander for years, happy with the results. Might try the deck sander, i'll check it out this year.
Home depot has a deck sander with a weight kit, it will do a far better and faster job than the square butf machine you are using.. I looked quickly but did not see a note for what grit screen you used. guessing 80-100 grit. . Older decks with more cupping on the boards the square buff would be a very slow process but to power wash to remove most or all of the old finish leaves the deck fuzzy from the wood fibers being blasted with water.. so a light sanding is needed.. I think you lead people to belevie the sanding made the job look good.. when in fact, you power washed removing most of the finish and then a light touch up sand after the wood has dried from a week to 2 weeks depending on the area
Hi Richard - Is a deck sander lighter than the square buff sander?
Only the deck sander has a plastic container attachment in which you can add water or stones to increase the weight of it.
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Great video! I have a 400sq ft deck to sand. Debating on whether to rent the sander for 4 hours or do the day rental
I usually just do the 4 hours, it's enough time since you will do the waterproofing when you come back after you drop off the sander.
Thanks for the video. What is the name of this machine (from Home Depot), and can you also share the grade of the sandpaper that you used? Thank you
Nice video I use Rymar Extreme Weather Wood Sealer Stain $80 gal but last for years last time in did my deck was at least 6 years. Needs it now.. I will do the sanding trick... much better results for sure.. I have Cedar deck that's 20 yrs old.
Do they sell it it home depot? Ace hardware?
If you have some larger cracks, or holes, you should use a wood filler to fill them in. I recommend doing this first, before you sand. AND, if you have a board that is somewhat bad, you could try turning it over, vs buying a new one. If the bottom side is in good condition, flipping it over can save you from buying a new piece of wood.
Very true, a quick flip is a great idea! I have moved on from wood, redoing my deck with composite. Decided no more yearly sanding/waterproofing is worth the extra cost of the composite.
If the deck is painted, does the paint have to be stripped off first? I’ve been using chemical paint stripper to remove the paint and it is such a pain. Plus it is expensive because so much is needed. Someone told me to just sand it off and I don’t know if that is something that can or should be done.. thanks ahead of time and thanks for the info and education with this video.
Great video. I was thinking about replacing my deck, but after watching your video I give it a shot. I'm sure I'll save a lot of money with sanding.
Yes, def go for sanding first. You might have to replace some boards, but It will be way less expensive than replacing the deck. Just make sure you have alll the nails/screws down. Those will tear up the sandgrid quick.
Great idea, I’ve been pressure spraying for 30 years. Think I will try this
If you're sanding your deck every "year to 2 years"...you're obviously using a cheap or non lasting sealer such as Thompsons.....I sealed my deck 5 years ago with Cabot Australian Oil and it is still vibrant to this day !
My thoughts exactly
i live at 8000 ft, snow, sun, hail...every 6 months.
Good sanding information, but didn't see the comparison with power washing. Still a good video. Thanks.
The deck was power washed a few days prior to the sanding. The deck is clean, but not much else.
How long did this stain last you ? You don’t have to use any type of brightening agents or cleaning agents to remove mildew etc ? I heard Thompsons do not last very long on any deck?
Yes, thompsons has to be reapplied each year for the best protection. I did not use any brightening agents, the sanding brings out a new top layer of wood, so it looks great again.
Great video. Can you use the sander to remove latex paint just as easily from a large deck? Appreciate the info. Thanks.
I would get rent a drum sander for removing paint. They rent them at home depot as well.
@@CarlosVasquez It's good to know. Thank you for the info. Home Depots in my city don't rent them but there are other businesses that do.
Thank you for this informative video. You advise to move the sander in the direction of the wood grain, but then, after one sweep, you turn around and go back over the same area in the opposite direction. Doesn't this conflict with the recommendation to go with the grain? What am I misunderstanding? Thanks.
well I meant not to go up and down over the boards..go with the boards. Go east / west , not north/south...hopefully that clears up my statement.
I have really old deck 20 plus years old. Not been touched. What steps do you recommend to restore it? What type of sander? Thanks for video. Really good but your deck is well maintained. Ours needs alot of work. Thank you!
Hi, well the first thing is you are going to have to check the boards for wood rot. If any boards are soft and squishie they will probably need to be replaced. Do it your self, just take one board at a time out. If you don't replaced the boards that are bad it won't look good unfortunately. Take your time, don't try an finish it all in one weekend. So basically you need a good base, and that's good wood, no warping or rot.
Good video. Will the sander remove peeling old stain, so that I can re-stain it? Thanks
It might but you would need to get a smaller grit..say a 60 or 80. Then go higher after you get most of it off to make it smooth. Or you can rent a drum sander..that will take it off quick.
Great video. It seems like there were tiny cracks that you did not fill. Do U think it is not needed.
You are correct, their are quite a few cracks. Unfortunately I really can't do anything to fix it. With the elements the wood expands and contracts that any wood filler would not really work well. Eventually I will need to replace the bad boards individually.
How much material does it take off the deck boards? Doing it every year one would imagine the boards getting thinner.
Barely any, been doing it for years. You can see it moves fast across the deck.
Mine is very worn should I power wash first wait 2 days and then sand???
yes, not sure if 2 days is enough time. Depends on the outside temp and how much sunlight reaches the deck. Make sure you go over your deck to hammer/screw down any nails/screws. Other wise if they are up they will tear the sandpaper screen.
@@CarlosVasquez ya, i did the walk around and there's a bunch of screws up, previous person used screws that are only penetrating about a 1cm into the bottom piece. i'm no expert, but i'm pretty sure thats wrong and will likely have to replace all the screws. thanks bro.
Great idea.... I used that horrible home Depot deck-over by Rust-Oleum. It's peeling everywhere and a lot came off with a power washer. Do you think this method will work? There's only one or two coats on it?
Yes, it will work. Get some lower grit screens to get it off quickly. Then go over it with 120 grit screens to make it smooth. After it's all done blow it off with a leaf blower then apply the Thompson water proofer. It will look nice again! Make sure you get all the screws and nails below the sand line first or it will tear the sand grid.
Hola Carlos, Tengo una maquina similar, y los q la usaron rajaron la base metálica q soporta la lija. Y además los bujes o resortes de jebe están resecos. Donde consigo los repuestos. También la almohadilla negra y roja. Gracias de antemano Tu Respuesta.
Does sanding a deck once its dried and with sun beating down, encourage the grain to come up ripply and uneven ? Years ago I sanded mine with an orbital sander, and eventually the surface came really uneven, with bits of wood coming up almost in shards. That makes me hesitant to do it again.
Over the years I have not had any issues with it becoming uneven or wood shards. Now I do always waterproof it after sanding. Maybe that has helped over the years.
You stated in this video you used sandpaper. But after reviewing the video on the home Depot website it looks like you're using a screen instead of a sandpaper is that true.
Thanks Nancy
Yes , it's a grid...I was using the term sandpaper, sorry.
Hey I have a painted deck. Do I use the sander the same way? No different right?
No. You would need to remove the paint first. You can use chemicals or a drum/band sander. They rent them at home Depot also.
What grit sand paper was used in the video? The question was asked 8 months ago with no answer. Thanks!
Oh I am not sure. I think it was 120 grit. Sorry I missed your other message.
Wonder if the sanding will help remove the old paint that’s on my deck
It does look really good and rich. Quality job well done 👍
Thanks!!
Great video! What was the waterproofing product you used on your deck?
Thanks! It was Thompson's, clear..no tint.
@@CarlosVasquez it looks amazing. In the process of redoing my deck now…
Unfortunately, we inherited a painted wood deck when we moved here. It's a pain to maintain. I'd love to be able to sand off the paint and apply a stain/sealer to it. Will this machine remove the paint by itself? Or do I still need stripper as well? Thanks for the video!
You will need another type of sander. Home depot rents a drum sander for the floor. It will remove the paint, but you have to keep it moving, can not let it stay in one place. It will take the paint right off, except between the wood. That is the real pain, you can leave the paint or get a chemical remover for the paint the drum sander can not reach.
@@CarlosVasquez Thank you!
@@jdquadrider your welcome John
I have an idea how to resolve the chord problem when you spin around. Don't spin around.
Thank for the video .Do you think about 3 days of dry weather is enough to wait b4 sanding after rain?
Yes, 3 days will be enough time.
Will the Sander stand up to a screw head slightly proud of surface?
No, it will rip the sandpaper grid. Have to be flush or below the sand line.
how long will the sealer hold up before you have to do it again? I figured I should seal every year, I don't want to put a stain on
It depends on your weather..it's good for 1-3 years..usually
I liked it because of the vibrating type
My deck is about the same size as yours and I need to do that. I want to know how long it takes you to do it ? Por favor, le agradezco su cooperación. Muchisimas gracias....Tank you very much....
I would say about 45 min. So the 4 hr rental time from home depot is plenty of time. After your done sanding, get a leaf blower to clear off all the dust. Then apply your waterproofer.
After sanding the wood clean is it still important to use a deck cleaner to scrub before applying stain
no, just blow off all the sawdust. No need to put on a deck cleaner.
Great video ! Want the grain to POP out ! Use 3 parts Boil Linseed Oil, 2 Parts Thompson Oil Based Water Seal , 1 Part Paint Thinner. Mix Thoroughly - Give the wood more depth.
Thank you!
I seen this recommendation somewhere else..Amazon? I would love to see pics if you have any!! 😼
Well done, know it has been a year already. What sanding grit did you use?
It was a 120 if I remember correctly.
Great job. Will this sander tend to get hung up if it hits a nail? It seems like an obvious question but just want to know for sure before I rent so I could recess nails. Thx. Steve, Plymouth, MA
No, what will happen is it will rip the sandpaper grid. So you have to make sure all the nails/screws are in, either hammer or drill them a little below the surface. Not a big deal, just a little prep goes a long way. How big is your deck?
Hey Carlos , can you roll on sealer with a roller or do I have to use brush ?
Yes you can use a roller, its way better than using a brush. I use a 5 gallon bucket with a screen with the roller.
I like the hand help pump sprayers
My deck is a bit rough, like splinter sticking out and a bit moldy. Should I sand it or pressure wash it? Thank you!
Use a weed sprayer with a 1/4 to 3/4 bleach mix spray on deck to kill mold prior to power washing. or sanding.
Well if you have splinters sticking out, first your going to have to address it. You may need to remove the splinter wood pieces, i just do not know how bad. Once those are cleared up you may need a more aggressive sander, belt type, they are rented at home depot as well. This belt sander/drum sander are directional, also have to keep them moving, can not stand still with them. The mold issue, will I would power wash it all off, then do a bleach mix afterwards. Then once its all dry do the sanding and waterproofing. Good luck, you can do it!
Treated lumber with warped joint area boards...I was going to use the HD drum sander. Will this grind down the warped joints?
I know this is a very old comment but was wondering what you ended up doing? I went with the drum sander because my boards are all warped and bowed. It worked pretty well although I had to go against the grain in a lot of spots because of the unevenness of the boards.
I'm wondering if such a sander could handle a hardwood (IPE) deck. Is there a special sandpaper that you'd recommend in this instance?
I just got done applying Behr semi transparent stain to unfinished yellow pine pressure treated. The deck was built a year ago. I washed it first let it dry completely for a day in the 80 deg heat. Applied it (16 x 16) to the deck with a pad two coats and let it fry for 4 days. Then I wheeled my grill on it and the stain was lifting with my wheels. When testing how it can be removed, it peels off easy with a orbital hand sander. The stain or acrylic never penetrated the wood. The paper did not even clog up. Do you think this machine can remove the coating even if I have to buy more pads? Thank you
Would you do anything different for painting a deck? The wood is starting to get worn but not bad.
I would not recommend painting a deck. You could stain it if you want some color.
@@CarlosVasquez Wow .. no wonder it's peeling. I painted it couple years ago. So guess I will have to rent an orbital sander?
Good for sanding regular stained deck..I'm on 10 papers and 3 pads on a 620sqft deck that someone used deck pain (stain)/ deckover on...
Oh deck paint is definitely difficult to get off uggg
Needed to rent a belt sander, it's much more aggressive
Hi, my deck looks grey and weathered with old flaking sealant. I pressure washed it, thinking to sand it now. Do you apply a brightener before the sealant? Which products do you recommend?
Yes,definitely before
nice job--couple of questions--I assume you went over the entire deck and hammered down any nails sticking up? What kind of wood? why did you choose to waterproof over staining? thanks.
hi, yes you have to make sure there are no nails/screws sticking out. The wood is pressure treated wood, not sure the type. Staining does protect the wood from water. Now Thompson and olmypic does make a tinted wood protector. Plain stain does not have any waterproofing properties.
@@CarlosVasquez thanks CV
Great video and good info on what the weight is and how the sanding pad is used. One thing I thought was off was you spinning around and fighting that cord. Why not just go from one end to the other then move to the next boards and go back the other way. I have to think you did it that way so you were facing the camera but I don't know that for sure.
Glad you like the video! Well the sander prefers to go one direction, there is a bit of resistance when I try going the other way. I will be making a new deck video soon. Is there any thing you might want me to show in the new video?
@@CarlosVasquez Nothing I can think of. Thanks for answering I would never have thought of that. LOL
It's been 2 years.
Show a b4 power washing pic this time.
I have a Herringbone deck.
I will...need to do it again now. This k I'll make the new video in June.
Great video, thank you. I was thinking about one of these machines as well but wasn't sure how to operate it. I'm not handy as you can tell. What kind of sandpaper do you use so that it is smooth enough without destroying the wood. I see you don't use deck stain?
Thank you. I use 120grit sandpaper grids. Smooth enough for me. You can also go higher if you want. No stain, just thompson water sealer clear. I like the natural look.
@@CarlosVasquez are water sealers always clear or do they have stains? Or would you have to stain then seal?
@@04Ammy04 You can buy them with a light stain in them. Not a lot of choices.
Will it remove paint too??
@@gjproducer313 The sanding will remove paint
Will this machine level it? I pressure washed cedar and have grooves now. I'm looking to level it down about an 1/8". Or do I need a drum sander?
Yeah you need a standing drum sander. They are much more agressive. Just keep it moving, don't stay in one place when you use it.
@@CarlosVasquez thanks! Monday's project.
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Will it work the same against solid stain?
Thanks for this brother
your welcome! I need to do mine this spring..so off to home depot again!
Our contractor says that he's going to "lightly" sand our deck even through the paint currently there is peeling and the entire deck is weathered. Should I have them do something different?
Ah you have a painted deck correct? If so you will need to sand off or use a paint removal chemicals to get the old paint off. Your contractor is correct, you will need to get all that old paint off. One of the reasons not to use paint on decks, always a pain to deal with as they age. Best to go natural or a stain once the paint is gone.
Would one of these Sanders take off unwanted paint? Maybe with a 60-80 grit?
For paint get a floor belt sander,(think it's called that) it's rented at home depot too. It an agressive sander so you have to keep it moving, can not let it stay in one place.
I just did mine and had to remove solid stain which is basically paint. I rented the drum sander from home Depot and it worked really well. This was also necessary because my boards are all warped and uneven so I needed something that could get down into the valley's.
When you push forward on the sander it moves to the left,when you lean it backwards towards you it moves to the other side.
Thank you I think even I could do this! Being a woman at all LOL. This morning I went out to my deck with my sandpaper my scraper my wire brush my regular brush and was totally overwhelmed. Now that I’ve seen your video Home Depot here I come . What I had in mine was priming it and then painting it. I have already bought both. The water seal seems beautiful and much easier. Maybe I’ll use this on my front deck and my back deck which is huge I can do the water seal. Thank you and what do you think?
Hi, well I would avoid painting the floor. The issues to me is whenever you put any type of furniture or decorations eventually it will be dragged. Then your paint will get scratched up then flake, just not worth it in my opinion. Instead of paint maybe a stain, lots of colors available. Easy to apply and gives you color. If you go with stain, you still will need to apply waterproofing on top. Hopefully that helps.
All the manufacturers of pressure treated lumber don’t advise sanding their wood due to the release of fine particles of the preservative chemical into the air. Copper being one ingredient which is harmful to the soil and plants and maybe arsenic, back when pressure treated lumber first was marketed. Check to see when your deck was built to determine if it contains arsenic. If it does, don’t sand it.
Thanks Michael for the info. Good thing my deck was built after 2003, so no arsenic. I will do another video this year, but I will make sure that I have a respirator on and let everyone know they need to wear one too when sanding. Thanks again.
beautiful. I used berh deck over. the first year it was good. now paint is chipping and coming up. so I powered washed it. now guy has to sand it. because of class action lawsuit against berh paint of decks.
The issue with decks are the expansion and contraction due to the weather. Stain or waterproofing, i'll never use paint or deckover.
What kind of sander is that
It's called a square buff floor sander. You can rent them at home Depot.
Deck looks great!👍
How come you didnt seal the cracks befor you paint it?
What grit is the sand paper/what grit do you recommend? How long would it take you to do the same job with a hand held orbital sander?
I use 120 grit on the whole deck. Now if your deck has more weathering you can go to 80 grit. Make sure you have no nails/screws sticking up past the sand line or it will rip the sand grid. About the hand held, not worth it, tough on your back,knees and hands. It would take hours with the hand held.
@@CarlosVasquez Much thanks! I read that you don't want to go finer than 80 grit as the finer you go it will make the wood less porous and it absorb the stain/seal as well. Not sure how accurate that is....what are your thoughts?
@@andrewgraham3658 Oh, well never had an issue with stain or waterproofer working with 120grit. Your information might be correct, but it's not noticable in my option.
@@andrewgraham3658 also I prefer the 120 grit if I am barefoot having a beer on the deck....smoother.
@@CarlosVasquez Thanks. Appreciate the tips!
What kind of water seal did you use? Probably already answered this lol
It was thompson deck waterproofer. Went with the clear, no tint. Need to do my deck again this year, will make a new video..any suggestions?
@@CarlosVasquez looks good, about to do mine, might go with that as well.
Try using a black pad and no sandpaper. It will get down in the crevices better.
Cool Idea! Never knew you could use it that way.
What kind of "black pad" are you talking about? Where do you get them?
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Thanks! Yes, that clarifies
I want to remove the Home Depot Deckover paint from my deck. Very thick coating but starting to peel and wear. Will this sander do the job? Anything I need to do beforehand? Appreciate the help, thanks.
You will need a beltsander, they rent them too. Its quite quick, so just keep it moving. You might look into a chemical removal too, might be easer to get that deckover paint off with just a scraper. Good luck with your project.
I tried renting this machine, but it kept shutting off every few seconds ... I assume because of the mouton of power it was using. I went back to the store and exchanged it for another mating and it did the same thing. How did you hook it up so that it didn't continuously go out or blow a fuse?
Also, would it be able to sand paint off of a deck?
Same thing happened to me. So I ran it from the washer machine room. The outlet there was in a 20amp circuit, the problem went away. Try different outlets. Make sure if your using an extension cord it has to be the same guage or larger guage wire. That will also cause the machine not to work.
Better to get a different sander if your taking paint off. Drum sander/belt sander, that's what you need to rent.
@@CarlosVasquez Thank you.
@@CarlosVasquez Thanks. I appreciate it.
How about decks with 33 yrs of layered paint? These boards were already bare.
If u sand it every second year which grain on paper to use?
I start with a 80 then go up to a 120 grit. So I buy 3 sheets of 80 grit then 3 sheets of 120 grit. Then I return any that I dont use.
@@CarlosVasquez
Thanx for answer Carlos
I Will try this next spring
It's like a dancing class, left right, turn.
Yeah, kind of a little dance for sure!
Will that take paint off
Your neighbor needs to power wash his siding...damn
I know!! Looks like crap! Can't pick your neighbors. But they did finally clean it.
Did you have any nails or screws sticking up?
No, made sure to check. If not it will rip the sandpaper pad.
Will I be able to remove Multiple layers of old sealer this way?
Well yes its should be able to get the top layer off. You might need to go to a more aggressive grit, maybe a 60 or 80. Then finish with a 120 to smooth it out. Make sure you have no nail heads/screws sticking up and any wood splinters. It will chew up the grid paper if you do.
@@CarlosVasquez thank you
Great video! I noticed a few boards are getting some weather cracking but they almost add a beautiful texture to the deck after you sanded and waterproofed it! Great video
Yah, its not bad once it all refreshed. I switched to a deck oil now, going to see how it holds up. I'll let you know in the spring.
Hi,
Came across your video on this deck project. Would this sander be good to remove old paint from floor deck boards?
I have to repaint the deck floor boards. I will do a soft wash first to remove any mold.
Any information will be helpful.
Thanks
hi, well you could but it will take quite some time. Home depot has another sander, its a belt sander/floor sander. Think its about the same price. Just remember not to keep it in the same place or it could take too much off, its a more aggressive sander.
@@CarlosVasquez
I will look into that
Thanks
I decided to be cheap and use the belt sander I already owned. Don't make the same mistake I made. It took 8 hours to completely sand a small deck.
oh boy! 8 hours wow! Back breaking work i'm sure!
What kind of wood is your deck made of?
the kind from a tree
So did you power wash first then sand or no?
Scratch tht u power washed 30 days prior
Great video. Thank you!
Your welcome!
I rented this machine for my deck and it was horrible. This sander is not meant to be used on outdoor decks. This sander went through 4 sand paper pads in about 10 minutes. Each of the sand paper pads costs about 8 dollars. If you're planning on sanding your outdoor deck I suggest using a orbital Deck Sander.
My guess is your deck wood planks had nails or wood pieces that were not flush. This would explain why it ripped the sandpaper grids. Your deck board had to be corrected somewhat prior to using the sander. You might need a drum sander, which is very aggressive. About orbital sanders..sure they would work but it will take hours and hours to do a deck. Good luck on your choice.
I have a few redwood boards that have rotted and need to be changed out. The other pieces look pretty good and were previously painted years ago. After I sand it do I use a primer then paint or primer mixed paint?
Nice vid, I recently removed some boards, and the under side is clean, No stain on it, is it ok to flip them?
Thanks! Yah you can flip them. Hopefully no screws or nails break when you try. But I do like the idea 👍
Would have like to have scene it after sanding before sealing I bet there was not a big difference between power washing and sanding or you would have showed it what was it like if and where you sealed it after washing that's what we want to see and make our opinion
Power washing is just cleaning, but when you sand wood it removes the top layer to give you a fresh layer of wood. I use to just power wash it and apply waterproofer. It just never looks new/fresh wood. So if you want it to look fresh then sand it. If not, then it's ok too..it just won't look as good. The effort pays off always.
What did you use for water proofing?
Thompson deck waterproofer
Wish I had watched this video before beginning my project. I thoroughly sanded first with type of equipment you rented and went over it again with a belt sander. Unfortunately I didn’t power wash first. Is power washing now still a good idea? I know power washing can leave the boards a little gritty, But I have no interest in sanding a third time. Can I get away with just scrub washing the deck with deck cleaner or even just blowing all the dust off with a blower?
Not sure you need to, how does it look? If it looks clean I would just leave it alone. If you do power wash, just keep the wand moving, it you stay in one place you can damage the wood. My power washer is not that powerful, also I use the attachment that has a broad stream, so not to cut into the wood.
Can you add color stain over the water sealer? thanks for the video! I just pressure washed mine, and it doesn't look as good, so I'm thinking of doing the sander.
Think it is the other way around. Stain your deck wait for it to completely dry then put on water sealer. The stain won't protect wood. But double check the stain instructions on how to protect.
Thanks a million!
Would you just sand is you had a couple layers of paint on top? Or would you strip the paint with something first and then sand?
My deck use to be painted a few years ago. I used a belt sander from home Depot. That sander is more agressive so you have to keep it moving, it can not stay in on place. The belt sander is how I would do it. The chemicals I do not like, they work but super messy and not good for runoff either.
Use a belt sander to take the paint off, watch out for nails/screws. Also any warped board will need to be fixed or replaced.
Watch a few videos in belt Sanders..it's not difficult to use.
@@CarlosVasquez Hand belt sander or the standing drum-roller one?
@@bkapas I rented the standing one from home Depot. Works really well and it's fast too.
Why did you turn around every time when you switched direction? Wouldn't it have just been easier to stay racing the same way? The cord would have been less of an issue then.
The sander preferred it..there was more resistance the other way.
Who does their deck every year? Is that really necessary seems like overkill.
Its not necessary for sure. Kind of fun to do when you sit back afterwards and your deck looks new.
I have actually switch to a composite decking now. So I dont have to do it anymore :)
What about spindles and railings
I use a paint sprayer, super fast total coverage. Get one, they are great! Of course cover the deck 1st.
How easy or difficult is it to remove paint from a wood deck? And is it worth it?
I'm in the process of removing paint from my deck right now. I started with a belt sander, and realized that even with 36 grit sandpaper, it was going to take a long time. So I got a planer. The planer is much quicker, but at this point I feel like it's worth it to just disassemble the deck so I can ensure there are no screws my planer will hit. And that's where I'm at, is assembling my deck. I'm learning a lot and it's a lot of work, but I think it's worth it to conserve lumber and restore this 30yr-old deck. My plan is to fill holes, plane, sand, stain, and steal the components before I put them back together.
Tig D ! A few cool things i learned about...
1. Can you flip the board over? Should be less breakdown, etc
2. Also,I purchased this wood softener repair stuff. Basically, it hardens wood,reading reviews this guy used it on his very old and warn deck with cracks,etc. Said it worked amazing.
3. I have oil based stain on my deck..and a shed. The deck will get the sander,the shed i will use this amazing wax stripper i purchased on Amazon. It was purchased to remove years of mop and glow that NOTHING else would touch!!!! It removes this stain like butter!
Can I ask which Thompson's water seal you used. Are there various colors? Thanks so much
I used the natural/clear one. No tint.
@@CarlosVasquez Thanks. I love the lambswool applicator. Saves my back! Be well.
What sqft does one sanding sheet do?
what about the screw heads do they ?
Have to screw them in or replace them. it will tear up the sandpaper.