I had the pleasure of watching Bob Hunter do this in person during a classroom session when I attended Weekend with Wood in 2018 or 2019 (I attended both years), and am finally awaiting my new Iincra LS fence as I type this. looking forward to making my own double dovetails. It's unfortunate that both Covid and an ownership change of the parent company has led to the end of Weekend with Wood, I, and my wife, looked forward to the trip and connecting with other woodworkers and the Wood magazine staff.
I purchased the TSLS Wonder Fence system from Incra in 2018. I do not use it as often as I should to keep current on its use. Your video’s are the best videos on showing techniques on how to use the system. 😁🛫
I’ve seen several demonstrations on using the Incra for these dovetails BUT this one is by far the best that I’ve seen, including the one produced by Incra. Thanks.
Great video. I have not come across many other videos that get into enough detail on how to actually use the system. I feel this video does get into the necessary detail, thanks very much.
Thank you so much for this! I have been shy to use my incra wonder fence setup to make dovetails because it seemed a little too daunting but this has instructed and motivated me!
Well, I am as about as newbie as you can get when it comes to this woodworking game and I can tell you that it will allow you to create great looking dovetails in know time. My first attempt at half blind dovetails were really good! First attempt! It DOES have its restrictions though. The bit you use will determine your stock thickness. The template you choose will determine your stock width. So, that may cause people to shy away from it (along with the cost of course). I now realize that those other dovetail router template jigs that are out that don't have those restrictions and if I was looking to make dovetail drawers, that may be a major concern for me. Can those templating jigs create double dovetails and corner post dovetails? I don't know enough about those to be able to answer that. I do know that the Incra system can and they look pretty darn good and definitely something I want to be able to do. In addition, the guys at Incra, especially Mark, are so helpful when you email them with a question. Always give me a very detailed answer to my questions. I even purchase the LS positioner for my table saw. Very precise and I NEVER use a tape measure with my table saw. Like I said, I am a newb so take my comments here with a grain of salt.
Excellent video!!! Have an old Join Tech Positioner. Same idea different company, that unfortunately went out of business. Thanks for these great demo videos!!!
Absolutely beautiful. I'd be so proud of producing such work, but just how much does that dazzling Incra fence system cost? In addition, I'm sure I'd need to have about a week of quality training to be capable of using it to it's full potential
Follow the instructions and the included templates. I was making quality dovetails the same day I got mine. Mastering it over time means you can do things quickly without having to refer to the instructions, but the quality of work within your first few days will be on par. It'll just take longer to do it.
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That looks like a fantastic system! I may consider getting one someday. I will note that you didn't actually center the fence (unless you did not do as described exactly). Note that you made an initial pass through the poplar. Then you reversed it and kept travelling down further to "no longer touch either side". So you overshot the center by 100%. You should have stopped "centering" once you reached halfway to the edge you were trying to match. Then could have used a second piece to confirm that another initial pass and reversing it truly did hit that "center". So it appears that the "shift" was from the center of the "final" dovetail where the inner edges of the inlay were shifted in opposite directions. Actually, when you think about it, I bet you could actually tinker with it to get it "so off" that it would create some sort of interesting pattern with the inlay/crossing one another geometrically. Would be an interesting experiment... but also difficult since you wouldn't even know what it "should look like" before it's done! haha.
was it just me, but I was sold until he assembled the box and the insides of the joints had gaps that would get a fail at any woodwork class. I did think it was two tone wood till i realised the gaps were on the pin boards.....its only a demo !!!!, but demos are not newbies. the end result has made me realise how precice my dovetail saw, marker guage and chisels are. high tech isnt always best tech.
I was somewhat surprised that the alignment for cutting the second set of mahogany dovetails didn't line up exactly in the centre of the first set of dovetails; it looked really bad. I'm also surprised that you didn't see it. To be honest, it's put me off purchasing the LS Positioner.
He did not actually center the fence. Note that he made an initial pass through the poplar. Then he reversed it and kept travelling down further to "no longer touch either side". He overshot the center by 100% (double, in this case). He should have stopped "centering" when he reached halfway to the edge he was trying to match. Then he should have used a second piece to confirm that another initial pass and reversing it truly did hit "center".
seems a lot of messing about, not every bit is the size stated, the Leigh jig is simpler, its adjustable for exact fit using the guidebush,and you can move your dovetails around to suit your stock, but if you have invested in an incra system i suppose it would do a good job, just more involved to use it.
Green Man - there are different templates for different sized bits and different thickness of stock. You can also space out your dovetails to your liking still using the templates.
Uneven dovetails with the second cutting, UGLY!!! So much for the "precision" of this over rated, over prized Incra stuff. I get better results from my $ 0 scrap MDF router fence. I guess the LS stands for Low Skill Positioner Fence?
Yeah it’s a finicky system for sure and only as precise as it’s operator. I had this system in my shop for about a year but the amount of shop space it takes up to have such a fiddly tool wasn’t worth it to me. Also he cut these uneven so his template must have gotten bumped or his point of view made him align the reference mark offset. Spending so much setup and taking such care to still produce an uneven joint.
I replied with this above as well, but again: He did not actually center the fence. Note that he made an initial pass through the poplar. Then he reversed it and kept travelling down further to "no longer touch either side". He overshot the center by 100% (double, in this case). He should have stopped "centering" when he reached halfway to the edge he was trying to match. Then he should have used a second piece to confirm that another initial pass and reversing it truly did hit "center". Looks like a good system, if you set it up right, I bet they would have been dead on, and obviously can't help that tear out in all cases.
@@ericcrockett9637 Yeah, well. For the price of it you can get yourself a small CNC router and achieve at least the same accuracy if not better. Add to that that it can be used for much more than just dovetails, it's clear that Incra has priced itself literally out of the market.
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I had the pleasure of watching Bob Hunter do this in person during a classroom session when I attended Weekend with Wood in 2018 or 2019 (I attended both years), and am finally awaiting my new Iincra LS fence as I type this. looking forward to making my own double dovetails.
It's unfortunate that both Covid and an ownership change of the parent company has led to the end of Weekend with Wood, I, and my wife, looked forward to the trip and connecting with other woodworkers and the Wood magazine staff.
Without question the best video on youtube showing how to use the incra positioner.
I purchased the TSLS Wonder Fence system from Incra in 2018. I do not use it as often as I should to keep current on its use. Your video’s are the best videos on showing techniques on how to use the system. 😁🛫
I’ve seen several demonstrations on using the Incra for these dovetails BUT this one is by far the best that I’ve seen, including the one produced by Incra. Thanks.
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Great video. I have not come across many other videos that get into enough detail on how to actually use the system. I feel this video does get into the necessary detail, thanks very much.
- Beautiful joints.
This was outstanding, as a new woodworker, and owner of the Incra routing system, the instruction was perfect. Thank you,
Thank you so much for this! I have been shy to use my incra wonder fence setup to make dovetails because it seemed a little too daunting but this has instructed and motivated me!
Hi Fernando, I am new to the TS LS joinery system my self, I am just beginning to work with it, how is it going for you with it?
Was considering the Incra dovetail jig but went with Porter Cable.
Hi, that dovetail book u have how much do i pay and sent to Australia.
Thanks,
Michael
Well, I am as about as newbie as you can get when it comes to this woodworking game and I can tell you that it will allow you to create great looking dovetails in know time. My first attempt at half blind dovetails were really good! First attempt! It DOES have its restrictions though. The bit you use will determine your stock thickness. The template you choose will determine your stock width. So, that may cause people to shy away from it (along with the cost of course). I now realize that those other dovetail router template jigs that are out that don't have those restrictions and if I was looking to make dovetail drawers, that may be a major concern for me. Can those templating jigs create double dovetails and corner post dovetails? I don't know enough about those to be able to answer that. I do know that the Incra system can and they look pretty darn good and definitely something I want to be able to do. In addition, the guys at Incra, especially Mark, are so helpful when you email them with a question. Always give me a very detailed answer to my questions. I even purchase the LS positioner for my table saw. Very precise and I NEVER use a tape measure with my table saw. Like I said, I am a newb so take my comments here with a grain of salt.
Check out pyRouterJig, it is software that lets you create any custom template you want and removes the stock size restrictions...
Excellent video!!! Have an old Join Tech Positioner. Same idea different company, that unfortunately went out of business. Thanks for these great demo videos!!!
that was interesting, I`ll probably never use it but now I have the idea
Absolutely beautiful.
I'd be so proud of producing such work, but just how much does that dazzling Incra fence system cost? In addition, I'm sure I'd need to have about a week of quality training to be capable of using it to it's full potential
Follow the instructions and the included templates. I was making quality dovetails the same day I got mine. Mastering it over time means you can do things quickly without having to refer to the instructions, but the quality of work within your first few days will be on par. It'll just take longer to do it.
I recently got the Incra jig ultra for a great price on eBay. Should I have forked over the money and gotten this one instead? Am I gonna regret it?
look at that saw blade!
Sorry "it's Heighten to tighten, Lower to loosen."
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That looks like a fantastic system! I may consider getting one someday. I will note that you didn't actually center the fence (unless you did not do as described exactly).
Note that you made an initial pass through the poplar. Then you reversed it and kept travelling down further to "no longer touch either side". So you overshot the center by 100%. You should have stopped "centering" once you reached halfway to the edge you were trying to match. Then could have used a second piece to confirm that another initial pass and reversing it truly did hit that "center". So it appears that the "shift" was from the center of the "final" dovetail where the inner edges of the inlay were shifted in opposite directions.
Actually, when you think about it, I bet you could actually tinker with it to get it "so off" that it would create some sort of interesting pattern with the inlay/crossing one another geometrically. Would be an interesting experiment... but also difficult since you wouldn't even know what it "should look like" before it's done! haha.
was it just me, but I was sold until he assembled the box and the insides of the joints had gaps that would get a fail at any woodwork class. I did think it was two tone wood till i realised the gaps were on the pin boards.....its only a demo !!!!, but demos are not newbies. the end result has made me realise how precice my dovetail saw, marker guage and chisels are. high tech isnt always best tech.
That’s the walnut wood not a gap
I was somewhat surprised that the alignment for cutting the second set of mahogany dovetails didn't line up exactly in the centre of the first set of dovetails; it looked really bad. I'm also surprised that you didn't see it.
To be honest, it's put me off purchasing the LS Positioner.
Looks like the alignment is off about one thick pencil line. A marking knife may achieve better results.
He did not actually center the fence. Note that he made an initial pass through the poplar. Then he reversed it and kept travelling down further to "no longer touch either side". He overshot the center by 100% (double, in this case). He should have stopped "centering" when he reached halfway to the edge he was trying to match. Then he should have used a second piece to confirm that another initial pass and reversing it truly did hit "center".
seems a lot of messing about, not every bit is the size stated, the Leigh jig is simpler, its adjustable for exact fit using the guidebush,and you can move your dovetails around to suit your stock, but if you have invested in an incra system i suppose it would do a good job, just more involved to use it.
Green Man - there are different templates for different sized bits and different thickness of stock. You can also space out your dovetails to your liking still using the templates.
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Most people don't have an incra fence. Most of your readers don't have an incra fence. Incra promo video. Click bait. Waste of time for Most people.
Uneven dovetails with the second cutting, UGLY!!! So much for the "precision" of this over rated, over prized Incra stuff. I get better results from my $ 0 scrap MDF router fence. I guess the LS stands for Low Skill Positioner Fence?
I see what you mean now. I am very surprised at this. I have the Incra fence system on my router and table saw.
Yeah it’s a finicky system for sure and only as precise as it’s operator. I had this system in my shop for about a year but the amount of shop space it takes up to have such a fiddly tool wasn’t worth it to me. Also he cut these uneven so his template must have gotten bumped or his point of view made him align the reference mark offset. Spending so much setup and taking such care to still produce an uneven joint.
I replied with this above as well, but again:
He did not actually center the fence. Note that he made an initial pass through the poplar. Then he reversed it and kept travelling down further to "no longer touch either side". He overshot the center by 100% (double, in this case). He should have stopped "centering" when he reached halfway to the edge he was trying to match. Then he should have used a second piece to confirm that another initial pass and reversing it truly did hit "center".
Looks like a good system, if you set it up right, I bet they would have been dead on, and obviously can't help that tear out in all cases.
@@ericcrockett9637 Yeah, well. For the price of it you can get yourself a small CNC router and achieve at least the same accuracy if not better. Add to that that it can be used for much more than just dovetails, it's clear that Incra has priced itself literally out of the market.