team jessica always. as someone who deals with mental illness, it was always so satisfying to see jessica stand up for herself and push back against narrow-minded misconceptions about her and viki's struggle. natalie never understood it and always waited until jessica was ill to swoop in and try to destroy her life. i get so angry every time natalie says "is this when crazy comes out?" like it's voluntary or some kind of joke. jessica was completely justified here.
I wonder if Natalie would dare say this in front of Viki. Viki and Jessica developed DID because they were both abused sexually as children. They didn't choose to have alters to use as a scapegoat for bad behavior and wreak havoc on their own lives.
I myself have DID and completely agree. This show helped me realize that I was misdiagnosed and I got in touch with a therapist that has been a godsend in recent years. Integration is very difficult and the writers on this show did such an amazing job portraying the struggles and difficulties of having Dissociative Identity Disorder which is clinched perfectly by both Bree and Erika's performances as Jess/Tess and Viki/Nikki respectively
I would also like to say I was a "Jody" fan. Actually I hated this whole mess in the first place. Brody was such a good guy for Jess and really loved her; D.I.D. or not, I thought it was so left field for him to fall head over heels for Natalie and not show an inkling of concern for Jessica. They made it all about Liam and completely ruined his character. I liked his friendship with John who didn't really have any male buddies that were peers once Michael and Antonio left the show. Sucks.
And the fight should have been longer. I mean, this had been building for months. Heck, years. The fight between Krystle and Rita on Dynasty lasted about 3 minutes!! LOL
She was not being a bitch. She had every right to be upset with that whore Trash-alie. She lied to them about the baby, than when she thought she couldn't get John back, she jumped on Brody and dumped him the minute she knew she could get John back. She never loved Brody, she only got with him to hurt Jessica. And still Jessica took her back.
Exactly! To be honest Natalie thought she lost John to Marty and Brody thought he lost Jessica to Christian , thats why Natalie and Brody slept together that night. Which Jessica ended up sleeping with Ford! It’s not Jessica or Natalie’s fault it’s all Marty’s fault. Marty switched Natalie’s paternity test to make Brody the Father instead of John. Marty blames Natalie for putting Cole in jail because of killing someone (I can’t remember who) and the reason Cole killed someone is cause he thought Starr and Hope was killed. Marty blames Natalie for sleeping with John, stealing John and having a baby with John which Marty was suppose to have (a child with John). Natalie stole/took everything from Marty, so Marty decided to switch Natalie’s paternity test since she found out that Natalie slept with Brody! Marty is a Psycho Bitch and messed with Natalie’s , John’s, Jessica’s, Brody’s and Liam’s life all so she can Claim John! She figures if Brody was the Father of Natalie’s Baby then she can have John since Brody would have Natalie. Marty set everything in motion! I blame Marty for everything and that’s why Jessica became Tess and Natalie ended up with Brody! Hell, Marty wouldn’t let anyone stand her way, she tried to kill Kelly(because John and Kelly slept together after the disaster Wedding of John/Natalie, Jessica/Brody) and Natalie, just to get John back!
Blue Xenomorph85 Cole shot Elijah Clark. Ironically because Marty took Hannah into her home and Hannah fooled everyone by pretending to get better but went psycho to get Cole, by kidnappijg Starr and Hope and trying to kill Starr. Marty and Hannah are one in the same I guess
I blame Marty for all this! If she hadn't been such a jealous witch and switched the paternity results none of this would've happened. And she didn't even get any kind of comeuppance!
I love Natalie to pieces but I was Team Jessica and Team John during this storyline I was happy that finally Jessica stopped being so fragile and stood up for herself; I wish they wrote her like this more instead of being so gentle. I don't want her to be Tess but this Jessica is more well rounded and more in touch with her anger without going nuts and turning into someone else at the drop of the hat. Ron Carlivati dragged out her D.I.D. too long and finally made her act like a normal woman scorned only for the show to get cancelled. I really didn't like how Natalie was written during this timeframe especially since what Jessica said was true, it was all a kneejerk reaction to her not being able to be with who she really wanted. Well she could have been if she gave it time like Viki said. . But it's certainly not uncommon on soaps for sisters to fight over a man. Seen it a gazillion times.
I just wish that they had allowed Jessica to be angry and deal with the initial fall-out. The DID angle made it really difficult for me to completely sympathize with her especially because the writers couldn't decide whether Jessica was using the alters to act out for her or if she was completely at the mercy of her illness and would have her contradict herself on that subject from episode to episode.
It’s not Jessica or Natalie’s fault it’s all Marty’s fault. Marty switched Natalie’s paternity test to make Brody the Father instead of John. Marty blames Natalie for putting Coke in jail because of killing someone (I can’t remember who) and the reason Cole killed someone is cause he thought Starr and Hope was killed. Marty blames Natalie for sleeping with John, stealing John and having a baby with John which Marty was suppose to have (a child with John). Natalie stole/took everything from Marty, so Marty decided to switch Natalie’s paternity test since she found out that Natalie slept with Brody! Marty is a Psycho Bitch and messed with Natalie’s , John’s, Jessica’s, Brody’s and Liam’s life all so she can Claim John! She figures if Brody was the Father of Natalie’s Baby then she can have John since Brody would have Natalie. Marty set everything in motion! I blame Marty for everything and that’s why Jessica became Tess and Natalie ended up with Brody!
I understand that Jessica is upset that her sister betrayed her but I don't understand why she is this mad over losing Brody. Ford is 10x hotter than Brody
Ford maybe hotter than Brody in your opinion but Brody can beat the Shit out of Ford no problem! Ford was a womanizer who took advantage of Jessica’s illness when she was chasing after Christian! Brody would never do something like that! Besides Brody is way better looking then looking Ford!!
Wow!! I completely forgot this scene....Natalie almost killed her sister. Bahaha...team Natalie....I’m just saying Jessica will never have real happiness from anyone that’s not as messed up as she is. Let’s face it....she had a cop before and that didn’t work out. (Normal) She fell in love with Nash who was a hustler just like Natalie used to be. Yeah Natalie was 100% right. Jessica is crazy like Vikki, and Natalie is more like Clint.
One thing I can’t stand is how self righteous Jess is, like she never seems to be the one at fault for these situations. People treating her as if she’s this perfect yet fragile person. People who automatically jump to Jess’s defense need to stop being so biased and just picking one over the other. They both were at faults, neither more than the other. Natalie has her failings but she doesn’t try to consciously be back to that person she was back then. She has been trying to be better.
Shavonne Holmes To be honest Natalie thought she lost John to Marty. While Brody thought he lost Jessica to Christian , thats why Natalie and Brody slept together that night. Which Jessica ended up sleeping with Ford! It’s not Jessica or Natalie’s fault it’s all Marty’s fault. Marty switched Natalie’s paternity test to make Brody the Father instead of John. Marty blames Natalie for putting Cole in jail because of killing someone (I can’t remember who) and the reason Cole killed someone is cause he thought Starr and Hope was killed. Marty blames Natalie for sleeping with John, stealing John and having a baby with John which Marty was suppose to have (a child with John). Natalie stole/took everything from Marty, so Marty decided to switch Natalie’s paternity test since she found out that Natalie slept with Brody! Marty is a Psycho Bitch and messed with Natalie’s , John’s, Jessica’s, Brody’s and Liam’s life all so she can Claim John! She figures if Brody was the Father of Natalie’s Baby then she can have John since Brody would have Natalie. Marty set everything in motion! I blame Marty for everything and that’s why Jessica became Tess and Natalie ended up with Brody! Hell, Marty wouldn’t let anyone stand her way, she tried to kill Kelly and Natalie, just to get John back!
Blue Xenomorph79 Jessica wasn’t even in her real state of mind when she slept with Ford. She didn’t even think that she slept with Ford. Natalie was out of line though. If Jessica slept with John it would be a whole another story. I sometimes wish Jessica had slept with John just to pay Natalie back but Brody was the real asshole because he knew he wasn’t Liam’s father and he mad e Jessica feel bad when he was so wrong. When Jessica found love with Ford then he died. I swear Jessica has terrible luck with men. She had it good with Antonio but then she cheated on him with Nash.
@@shavonneholmes5203 Fine Jessica wasn’t in her right mind but Ford sure was. He used Jessica just like he uses every other woman he can get his hands on! Just like he destroyed Langston and Markko’s relationship too! Ford was a womanizer!! Brody would never use or take advantage of a woman! All Brody wanted was a family and was it wrong for him to lie about him being Liams Father when really he is John’s yes it was, but he loved Liam so much it he didn’t want to lose him. Brody lost Shane to Rex, then Ryder to Ford and he found out Marty switched Natalie’s paternity test to make him the Father. I don’t blame Brody for losing it, he of all people wanted a family (not John) and time after time he kept losing , what he thought was his son to Rex, Ford and John! I understand why Clint switched Jessica’s paternity test because he loved Brody( he hated Ford) and him to be Ryders Father not Ford but Marty switching Natalies was just Pure Evil!! Marty was so hell bent on revenge after Cole went to prison!
@@Jose10614 a lot of people like to trash and slut-shame rivals/opponents of the characters that they really like Natalie is my favorite female soap character, but I am not into trashing and slut-shaming her rivals/opponents I am just not into that I like both Natalie and Jessica.........so seeing them fight is not something that I really like, but I do find it rather entertaining in a way at the same time I really like when they bond and get along as sisters
@@fomalhauto Exactly. We can all agree to disagree when it comes to characters on the show. But when people start like you say trash talking and calling characters names like Natalie that’s totally uncalled for! I mean I’ve called Marty a B**ch but to be fair she deserves it after destroying Natalie and John’s relationship/messing with Natalie’s paternity test by making Brody the father when Liam is really John’s child!
It's a shame that this wasn't the type of show that would allow Natalie and Jessica's clothes to be ripped off during they're cat flights cause that definitely would've been a treat especially with the way Natalie's body looked 😉❤️🥰
yeah I remember watching this show for the first time when I was 14 back in 08 cause my girl loved it and I fell in love with Natalie instantly I also liked Dani too
in soap fighting Natalie won. that's why she usually didn't hit back because Jessica was weaker. Tess actually was also is why she avoided physical confrontation all together with Natalie. people would say Jessica won out of disliking Natalie.
always kind of felt that way too cuz Natalie's physically strong I think she always knew she could beat just down if she wanted to but Tess is a little different cuz Tess is crazy and she might pick up something and clock her with it Jess is not going to do that
I really did not like Natalie during her time with Brody. And seriously Natalie? Yes, Mitch killed Jared. But your husband, Jared killed Jessica’s husband, Nash.
Jessica among other Natalie keep improving good chance of these days ago and I can see a little more of this one and the best way that has no,a little bit more than the best friend lol you can see that
Those two had such great chemistry no matter the dynamic
this is why i love soaps!!! the drama the catiness .RIP OLTL 1968-2012
I remember being shocked that she even mentioned Jared, because it seemed like his body wasn't even cold yet and she was going after John
Who needs enemies when they have a sister like Natalie
andrew gaming bro Natalie always secretly wanted Jess’ life, hell maybe even the DID too, for attention! 🙄😂
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team jessica always. as someone who deals with mental illness, it was always so satisfying to see jessica stand up for herself and push back against narrow-minded misconceptions about her and viki's struggle. natalie never understood it and always waited until jessica was ill to swoop in and try to destroy her life. i get so angry every time natalie says "is this when crazy comes out?" like it's voluntary or some kind of joke. jessica was completely justified here.
I wonder if Natalie would dare say this in front of Viki. Viki and Jessica developed DID because they were both abused sexually as children. They didn't choose to have alters to use as a scapegoat for bad behavior and wreak havoc on their own lives.
@@tambamfno she wouldn't. As much as I like Natalie, when she fought with Jess she got really petty, to justify whatever she did that time
I myself have DID and completely agree. This show helped me realize that I was misdiagnosed and I got in touch with a therapist that has been a godsend in recent years. Integration is very difficult and the writers on this show did such an amazing job portraying the struggles and difficulties of having Dissociative Identity Disorder which is clinched perfectly by both Bree and Erika's performances as Jess/Tess and Viki/Nikki respectively
I wish this was still on .
I love them both but I love Jessica more
I love Jessica not a big Natalie fan
Connie Newman I loved nathalie but after she stole brody not so much
me too.......Natalie is my favorite female soap character
Natalie blames Jessica for Mitch Laurence? She's the one who MARRIED him.
gleefulmusings I wanted Jess to say well your Husband murdered mine
i mean, in fairness, mitch gaslighted and abused natalie, so it's not her fault, but it sure as hell wasn't jessica's either.
Natalie was clearly gaslighting Jessica.
Jessica won that fight! Natalie crossed the line with that one.
I would also like to say I was a "Jody" fan. Actually I hated this whole mess in the first place. Brody was such a good guy for Jess and really loved her; D.I.D. or not, I thought it was so left field for him to fall head over heels for Natalie and not show an inkling of concern for Jessica. They made it all about Liam and completely ruined his character. I liked his friendship with John who didn't really have any male buddies that were peers once Michael and Antonio left the show. Sucks.
I love Jessica's lip gloss.
Its soo petty ☺
And the fight should have been longer. I mean, this had been building for months. Heck, years. The fight between Krystle and Rita on Dynasty lasted about 3 minutes!! LOL
Jessica is so Tess like here which probably means she really integrated here. The bitch qualities really shines here
She was not being a bitch. She had every right to be upset with that whore Trash-alie. She lied to them about the baby, than when she thought she couldn't get John back, she jumped on Brody and dumped him the minute she knew she could get John back. She never loved Brody, she only got with him to hurt Jessica. And still Jessica took her back.
Team Jessica that and a big fan
This would've all been dissovled had Natalie just told the truth in the first place or just kept her legs closed.
Or if that jealous bitch Marty didn't switch Liam's paternity results
Natalie and Brody were both drunk off the asses when they had sex.
Exactly! To be honest Natalie thought she lost John to Marty and Brody thought he lost Jessica to Christian , thats why Natalie and Brody slept together that night. Which Jessica ended up sleeping with Ford! It’s not Jessica or Natalie’s fault it’s all Marty’s fault. Marty switched Natalie’s paternity test to make Brody the Father instead of John. Marty blames Natalie for putting Cole in jail because of killing someone (I can’t remember who) and the reason Cole killed someone is cause he thought Starr and Hope was killed. Marty blames Natalie for sleeping with John, stealing John and having a baby with John which Marty was suppose to have (a child with John). Natalie stole/took everything from Marty, so Marty decided to switch Natalie’s paternity test since she found out that Natalie slept with Brody! Marty is a Psycho Bitch and messed with Natalie’s , John’s, Jessica’s, Brody’s and Liam’s life all so she can Claim John! She figures if Brody was the Father of Natalie’s Baby then she can have John since Brody would have Natalie. Marty set everything in motion! I blame Marty for everything and that’s why Jessica became Tess and Natalie ended up with Brody! Hell, Marty wouldn’t let anyone stand her way, she tried to kill Kelly(because John and Kelly slept together after the disaster Wedding of John/Natalie, Jessica/Brody) and Natalie, just to get John back!
Blue Xenomorph85 Cole shot Elijah Clark. Ironically because Marty took Hannah into her home and Hannah fooled everyone by pretending to get better but went psycho to get Cole, by kidnappijg Starr and Hope and trying to kill Starr.
Marty and Hannah are one in the same I guess
@@belleg6998 I hated that Marty never got any kind of comuppance. She got Patrick back and just left happy as a clam
Not taking sides but both dueled out low blows!!
I blame Marty for all this! If she hadn't been such a jealous witch and switched the paternity results none of this would've happened. And she didn't even get any kind of comeuppance!
I'll take the blonde. Gorgeous!
I love Natalie to pieces but I was Team Jessica and Team John during this storyline I was happy that finally Jessica stopped being so fragile and stood up for herself; I wish they wrote her like this more instead of being so gentle. I don't want her to be Tess but this Jessica is more well rounded and more in touch with her anger without going nuts and turning into someone else at the drop of the hat. Ron Carlivati dragged out her D.I.D. too long and finally made her act like a normal woman scorned only for the show to get cancelled. I really didn't like how Natalie was written during this timeframe especially since what Jessica said was true, it was all a kneejerk reaction to her not being able to be with who she really wanted. Well she could have been if she gave it time like Viki said. . But it's certainly not uncommon on soaps for sisters to fight over a man. Seen it a gazillion times.
I just wish that they had allowed Jessica to be angry and deal with the initial fall-out. The DID angle made it really difficult for me to completely sympathize with her especially because the writers couldn't decide whether Jessica was using the alters to act out for her or if she was completely at the mercy of her illness and would have her contradict herself on that subject from episode to episode.
It’s not Jessica or Natalie’s fault it’s all Marty’s fault. Marty switched Natalie’s paternity test to make Brody the Father instead of John. Marty blames Natalie for putting Coke in jail because of killing someone (I can’t remember who) and the reason Cole killed someone is cause he thought Starr and Hope was killed. Marty blames Natalie for sleeping with John, stealing John and having a baby with John which Marty was suppose to have (a child with John). Natalie stole/took everything from Marty, so Marty decided to switch Natalie’s paternity test since she found out that Natalie slept with Brody! Marty is a Psycho Bitch and messed with Natalie’s , John’s, Jessica’s, Brody’s and Liam’s life all so she can Claim John! She figures if Brody was the Father of Natalie’s Baby then she can have John since Brody would have Natalie. Marty set everything in motion! I blame Marty for everything and that’s why Jessica became Tess and Natalie ended up with Brody!
@@Jose10614 OMG thank you so much! Someone finally takes my side!
@@callmehchloe4074 Your Welcome!
I understand that Jessica is upset that her sister betrayed her but I don't understand why she is this mad over losing Brody. Ford is 10x hotter than Brody
Ford maybe hotter than Brody in your opinion but Brody can beat the Shit out of Ford no problem! Ford was a womanizer who took advantage of Jessica’s illness when she was chasing after Christian! Brody would never do something like that! Besides Brody is way better looking then looking Ford!!
@@Jose10614 No Brody would just go behind her back and sleep with her sister and lie about it.
Please ABC bring this show back!
this is better then pay-per-view
Its easy to blame the person you hurt than blaming yourself! Natalie just did that!
Wow!! I completely forgot this scene....Natalie almost killed her sister. Bahaha...team Natalie....I’m just saying Jessica will never have real happiness from anyone that’s not as messed up as she is. Let’s face it....she had a cop before and that didn’t work out. (Normal) She fell in love with Nash who was a hustler just like Natalie used to be. Yeah Natalie was 100% right. Jessica is crazy like Vikki, and Natalie is more like Clint.
Shut up trick Jessica got way more hits n n like Brody said Jessica could’ve killed Natalie hood rat
Wow! Jessica is crazy!!!
One thing I can’t stand is how self righteous Jess is, like she never seems to be the one at fault for these situations. People treating her as if she’s this perfect yet fragile person. People who automatically jump to Jess’s defense need to stop being so biased and just picking one over the other. They both were at faults, neither more than the other. Natalie has her failings but she doesn’t try to consciously be back to that person she was back then. She has been trying to be better.
Natalie should have brought up Chloe dying since she was going for low blows. But Jessica did lose two men she loved because of Natalie.
Shavonne Holmes To be honest Natalie thought she lost John to Marty. While Brody thought he lost Jessica to Christian , thats why Natalie and Brody slept together that night. Which Jessica ended up sleeping with Ford! It’s not Jessica or Natalie’s fault it’s all Marty’s fault. Marty switched Natalie’s paternity test to make Brody the Father instead of John. Marty blames Natalie for putting Cole in jail because of killing someone (I can’t remember who) and the reason Cole killed someone is cause he thought Starr and Hope was killed. Marty blames Natalie for sleeping with John, stealing John and having a baby with John which Marty was suppose to have (a child with John). Natalie stole/took everything from Marty, so Marty decided to switch Natalie’s paternity test since she found out that Natalie slept with Brody! Marty is a Psycho Bitch and messed with Natalie’s , John’s, Jessica’s, Brody’s and Liam’s life all so she can Claim John! She figures if Brody was the Father of Natalie’s Baby then she can have John since Brody would have Natalie. Marty set everything in motion! I blame Marty for everything and that’s why Jessica became Tess and Natalie ended up with Brody! Hell, Marty wouldn’t let anyone stand her way, she tried to kill Kelly and Natalie, just to get John back!
Blue Xenomorph79 Jessica wasn’t even in her real state of mind when she slept with Ford. She didn’t even think that she slept with Ford. Natalie was out of line though. If Jessica slept with John it would be a whole another story. I sometimes wish Jessica had slept with John just to pay Natalie back but Brody was the real asshole because he knew he wasn’t Liam’s father and he mad e Jessica feel bad when he was so wrong. When Jessica found love with Ford then he died. I swear Jessica has terrible luck with men. She had it good with Antonio but then she cheated on him with Nash.
@@shavonneholmes5203 Fine Jessica wasn’t in her right mind but Ford sure was. He used Jessica just like he uses every other woman he can get his hands on! Just like he destroyed Langston and Markko’s relationship too! Ford was a womanizer!! Brody would never use or take advantage of a woman! All Brody wanted was a family and was it wrong for him to lie about him being Liams Father when really he is John’s yes it was, but he loved Liam so much it he didn’t want to lose him. Brody lost Shane to Rex, then Ryder to Ford and he found out Marty switched Natalie’s paternity test to make him the Father. I don’t blame Brody for losing it, he of all people wanted a family (not John) and time after time he kept losing , what he thought was his son to Rex, Ford and John! I understand why Clint switched Jessica’s paternity test because he loved Brody( he hated Ford) and him to be Ryders Father not Ford but Marty switching Natalies was just Pure Evil!! Marty was so hell bent on revenge after Cole went to prison!
@@Jose10614
a lot of people like to trash and slut-shame rivals/opponents of the characters that they really like
Natalie is my favorite female soap character, but I am not into trashing and slut-shaming her rivals/opponents
I am just not into that
I like both Natalie and Jessica.........so seeing them fight is not something that I really like, but I do find it rather entertaining in a way at the same time
I really like when they bond and get along as sisters
@@fomalhauto Exactly. We can all agree to disagree when it comes to characters on the show. But when people start like you say trash talking and calling characters names like Natalie that’s totally uncalled for! I mean I’ve called Marty a B**ch but to be fair she deserves it after destroying Natalie and John’s relationship/messing with Natalie’s paternity test by making Brody the father when Liam is really John’s child!
Clint wasn't even in town when it was revealed that Natalie was a Buchanan. Wtf is Jessica talking about?
It's a shame that this wasn't the type of show that would allow Natalie and Jessica's clothes to be ripped off during they're cat flights cause that definitely would've been a treat especially with the way Natalie's body looked 😉❤️🥰
yeah I remember watching this show for the first time when I was 14 back in 08 cause my girl loved it and I fell in love with Natalie instantly I also liked Dani too
all the talent in this scene went to the argument
Jessica and Natalie's feuds are far worse and meaner than Dorian and Viki's feuds.
So annoyed that Natalie never apologized to Jessica for sleeping with her boyfriend. That she was willing to let a guy come between them.
Blonde chick is the Seducer Family type And her sister is the Modern Business women type ;D
Jessica was always the better twin.
in soap fighting Natalie won. that's why she usually didn't hit back because Jessica was weaker. Tess actually was also is why she avoided physical confrontation all together with Natalie. people would say Jessica won out of disliking Natalie.
always kind of felt that way too cuz Natalie's physically strong I think she always knew she could beat just down if she wanted to but Tess is a little different cuz Tess is crazy and she might pick up something and clock her with it Jess is not going to do that
its easily to blamed the person you hurt then blamed yourself
That was 🔥
I really did not like Natalie during her time with Brody.
And seriously Natalie? Yes, Mitch killed Jared. But your husband, Jared killed Jessica’s husband, Nash.
Jessica among other Natalie keep improving good chance of these days ago and I can see a little more of this one and the best way that has no,a little bit more than the best friend lol you can see that
I’m team Jessica.
Team Natalie
Hilarious
"While girls love watching comedy's we men love watching porno" ;)
hotitalianstalion comedies**** not comedy's
When soaps were good and nothing like the trash now
Come on, guys. It was a tie :-)
Yeah, but Natalie ended up in a neck brace? ctfu you're a Gnat fan, your opinion is alreayd biased.
Still can’t stand Jessica.
Natalie bad sister
Love Jessica hate Natalie
Trailer trash again😂😂😂
My
Jessica rules natalie is bad
Team Natalie
For sure rather than that bleach blonde Jessica!