I’m 76 now still own a ride a motorcycle. Have 3 sons who have had great fun on the back on my various bikes. But not one on them wants to ride or even want my motor bike !
And if it goes wrong you will be £ucked. If the worlds going to end may as well buy something that you can get spares for, and be assured it will still get to the end of the world.
I didn't get to Stafford this year. Some of the prices were reasonable, others not so. I did like the RD350 at £3950, but I'm a dyed in the wool Yamaha man, although I've been riding my Honda CB360 a lot this year. In 1977, my first real bike was a 1975 CB250G5, 47 years later, I'm riding virtually the same bike!
Shame you didn't make it to Stafford, I would have said hello. I think most prices met lower reserve, but some were a lot lower. If I had garage space, then I would have bid on the 996 and Z1. I used to be a Yamaha man, now I own 4 Kawasakis lol 😂
The G5 was a lot of bike for a 250, and especially so graduating as l did from an FS1E ! Really well made, our relationship ended when it was stolen from Birmingham city centre. Yes, the older Yamaha's are good, as is the XS650 four stroke
If they want the industry to survive they need to bring prices down for the young riders 18- 34 year olds. Since they are the future of the bike industry.
Entry-level bikes are cheap as chips, to get a licence will cost double the bike and insurance double again. A Chinese manufacturer (yes, it will be them or a supermarket chain) that comes in with a complete CBT/insurance/bike package would clean up.
i used to be a motorcycle mechanic at three different dealerships back in the 70s and 80s. I have resurrected a few of those bikes called barn finds. 750 Honda single cam, 750 Honda double overhead cam four-cylinder, Yamaha, XV 920 virago, Kawasaki, two stroke triple 500 cc, Yamaha, RD, 350s, Honda, CB 400 F four-cylinder, Yamaha XS 650 twin, Honda, CB 350 twin. on my real job, in the field every day, I would spot these bikes, sitting in open garage doors in the backs of peoples garage, mostly. When I would be there working, I would ask them if they would like to sell it. Or if I would see a motorcycle sitting in a garage of an apartment building, I would leave a note in a plastic bag asking if they would want to sell it. that’s pretty much how I found most of the resurrection so I have done. I won’t buy something that’s been repainted, I won’t buy something with a rebuilt engine, I won’t buy something that’s been modified heavily. I don’t buy x- race, bikes.. I buy them, get them running, change the fluids, new battery, new tires, I make them roadworthy, as though I were going to ride them, which was exactly what I intended to do with them. Ride them myself… but, without exception, every resurrection I did, was a big disappointment. The memory of those machines when they were new is much better than the motorcycle in real life today. The difference is, today, motorcycles, have better suspension, better breaks, better, geometry, better performance. I owned some of the bikes that I bought to get back on the road, I owned them back in the day, or I worked on them, and remember riding them when I was a mechanic, or when they belong to friends of mine. but here now, we have been spoiled gradually, by better and better motorcycles, better ignition systems, they advance the timing these days to the exact moment that the RPMs require on the advance call my fuel injection, gives the exact amount of fuel No matter what elevation you are at. Engines are quieter and making much more power per cc. The engines are quieter because they are water cooled. There is nothing like hearing a Kawasaki three cylinder two-stroke that is air cooled start up.. you can hear those pistons rattling as they go through their stroke, causing the cylinder, fins to ring and vibrate, it’s called piston, rattle. Never mind all the smoke from the overly rich oil pump setting as they come from the factory with.. never mind that that particular bike is one of the worst handling motorcycles in history, skinny frame, tubes, skinny, swing arm tubes, wire wheels, over sprung and underdamped shocks, that motorcycle was born to go into tank slappers. I’ve seen them do it at the race tracks. They did not survive crashes very well. They’ve often ended up, damaging the engine cases and crankshaft. That’s why they are so valuable. Today is because they are so few and far between. there are damn few survivors because they were terrible handlers. In their day they made a lot of power, it was 59 hp. That’s about with the Honda 750 made in those days. Just about every 600 mL sport bike today makes double that and today’s price will actually go run Bends, and you don’t have to rebuild today’s bikes every 20,000 miles. those CB 350 Honda twins were camshaft, eaters and cam bearing eaters. If you set the timing according to the owners manual of those machines, the timing was wrong. I worked at a Honda shop when a bulletin came into the dealership, telling the dealers to stock three top end rebuild kits for every 10 CB 350 twins they sell. They were that bad. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one with more than 20,000 miles on it without having the top end rebuild. It was also common for the electric starters not to work on those older machines. Which is exactly why they came through with Kickstarter’s, in addition to electric starters on the four strokes… most of those machines had timing that was set for one specific RPM to be the ideal rpm to have that exact timing. Everything below that exact number the timing would be advanced, everything above that precise number that the timing worked best, your engine performance would drop because the timing became more and more retarded/late for the RPMs. It was spinning at. there’s no accounting for nostalgia. But spending the kind of money people are spending today on those old antiques from the 70s which makes them approximately 50 years old or older is remarkable to say the least. Would you really want to have like a Kawasaki a model 350 twin to ride on those days you go riding with all your buddies.. would you really want to ride one of those relics from Tampa Bay to Sturgis in August. Do you really want to take a Honda CB 350 twin as your daily commuter on a round-trip of 80 miles a day? A few years ago, a friend of mine bought a CB 450 Honda that was restored and kept up. It started right now and looked great. He was very proud of it. my friend that had just picked up this CB 450 Honda was more of a motorcycle junkie than me. I don’t know how many motorcycles he has actually had since I have known him, but I’ve had 111 so far, he has had many many more motorcycles than I have, Nortons, BMWs, call mom, moto guzzi call Matt Laverda, as well as dozens of Japanese motorcycles. so I show up how does house on my daily commuter at the time, a Honda pacific coast. I take his 450 Honda he rides my Honda pacific coast. I remember and I have the magazines in my collection of thousands of motorcycle magazines somewhere. But when the Honda 450 was introduced, the tester for the magazine said that the physics of mechanical energy have been reached with this for50 Honda. They are reaching the limits of how much power they can get out of displacement with this motorcycle. The tester made it sound like it was an F 16. .. I rode the CB 450s back when I was a mechanic but not for very much more than a few miles at a time after a tuneup. but I rode my friends, newly acquired CB 450 in beautiful condition, and I was actually amazed at how gutless it was. It was running, OK, it idled smoothly, it pulled away from stop sign, smoothly as possible, but it felt like it had about 25 hp. The RD 350 of that time period Felt much faster. I like to know, I roadraced rDs for eight years winning six championships, two time national champion riding an RD.. which brings me to the RD that I resurrected at one time. I have enough parts from my old race, bike, wheels, exhaust, engines, you name it. I have the parts. So I found one and resurrected it. I got it running the way it should run, and it was disappointing. I could not imagine how I ever thought those things were fast. at the radar gun at Summit point, my RD would do 111 miles an hour past the radar gun on the display on the first lap of a 15 lap sprint.. from the seventh lap on, the speed on the display was lucky to reach 97 mph. When they got hot, they got slow… when the water cooled, RDs called RZ’s showed up, I had one of those, they showed the same top speed on the first lap, as on the last lap. That’s what water cooling did.. But surprisingly, the RZ had the only front forks I ever felt flexing even at normal street riding speeds.. Getting back on track, that’s nice that people like to resurrect and buy these resurrections of these older motorcycles, I myself like 1950s English sports cars. I have a 1958 mga I have owned since I was 15 .years old. I had it restored in 1975 and I put it in the garage and haven’t registered it for the road sense. I was always intending to put it back on the road when I retired, now I’m retired. So my ambition right now is to have ambition. I am still a motorcycle junkie, but I am shying away from motorcycles with ABS brakes. After the bad experience I had with my BMW K 1200 LT. Going down a gravel covered paved asphalt road, I touched the brakes and I didn’t have any, no brakes, front or rear all the way down that hill. I had about 20 seconds to think, should I jump off, I’m not gonna make that turn at the bottom, should I drag my feet, should I shut the key off, I was lucky there was auto salvage yard at the bottom of the hill that I ran into there, cyclone wire fence to stop only breaking my front fender. I have not owned a motorcycle with ABS brakes since because with ABS, that stands for, all breaking stops. I was lucky that I didn’t end up, going out into a four-lane highway that day with no brakes.. so I guess I do like the slightly older bikes without ABS although I did have a moto guzzi Norge that had a switch right on top of the fairing panel that I could shut the ABS off for those times when you get caught on a gravel road or on mud going downhill or in the snow which has happened to me several times.. I’m just tainted by the sweeping changes and improvements in cars and motorcycles of the past 50 years, cars and motorcycles are better than ever, the old days are not the good old days, these are the good old days, right now
Thank you for the detailed comment 👍 I appreciate both classic and modern bikes, but for different reasons. I'm fortunate to own examples of both, so I can get the best of both worlds 😃
@@derekb2765 my newest bike was a 2019 Kawasaki Z 400. I actually have videos of the bike and some rods I took on it on my RUclips channel. Fun machine.. I bought it and kept it for a couple years but I like something with a little more weight and wheel base and low end. I am on my 111th motorcycle right now. More than Half of them have been street, bikes, or road racing machines
@@Jodyrides111 bikes!!! 😮 That is an impressive motorcycling career. I was a late starter, hence my paltry 15 bikes in comparison. That's my excuse anyway lol 😂
Ha ha, I didn't buy anything. My garage is full, so I have to sell first. If I had space, then I'd have bid for the 996 Duke, R7 and '73 Z1. Bargains! 😯 I don't recall seeing a Kawasaki KH250. 🤔 There was a very nice purple 1978 KH400, sale price £6750.
Bonkers money, considering that we are entering a recession !!, if you buy a classic bike, make sure it is one you can ride and enjoy, and avoid the garage queens ! speedway bikes are pretty much worthless at the moment, sadly nice to see the early origional Z900 went for a decent price
That Z1 wasn't a minter, but bikes like that were fetching £16k+ not long ago! 😯 The (now ex) owner of the Wilkinson shared our sentiments regarding bikes being ridden. 👍
Errrrr I remember chopping one ie resprayed (rattle can)chopped back mudguard indicators off - I thought it was cool. Cam chain tensioner was rattling like mad and very smokey- so I flogged it for £800 and put it towards a new bike ( I still have that - it's worth about £3000 now) errrr wish I kept it ( z900)
I’m a little bemused that only very early 80s and older are considered classics bikes…when even early 1990’s bikes are now 30+ years old? The 1930’s, - 1960’s bikes etc.. most people who owned them are either 80+ years old, or dead. How is the interest in these bikes still being maintained? The bikes that do it for me, are the bikes I had as a young man, so late 80s - 1990’s.. but these era bikes are rarely included as ‘classics’ 💁🏻♂️ Surely us around 45-50+ y/o peeps are starting to encourage interests in these bikes? (The fact I have 7 1990’s era bikes in my garage….doesn’t make me biased in the slightest 👀😂😂)
I think the definition of what's considered to be vintage or classic depends on who you're talking to! 😉 The VJMC (Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Club) has a rolling 15 year eligibility rule. Other clubs that are more fixed, e.g. those focused on specific models may find their membership starts to dwindle for the reasons you state. It'd be great if more youngsters would discover the joys 😉 of classic ownership, but I think the world is moving in another direction 🫤
I’m going to have a look in the back of the shed for an old Vincent or a desmo Ducati !,. Freddy the frog offered me £3500 for my cb750k2 a few months ago, that Bonhams lady auctioneer is good,. Not been to Stafford for years, £22000 for the R7 was cheap, what amused me about it is the prices of rusty scrap outside, piss takers most of them,. Someone said to me an auction with 2 people bidding is never going to fetch a good price, if you have say 6 or more bidding the selling price will be high, I wouldn’t fancy the auctioneers fees on that Vincent either .The show and shine rivet counters side of the show is impressive tho,.what caught your eye Derek ? I thought the rocket 3 was a bargain in the auction,.
Was also surprised there were no takers for the R7. RC45 went cheaply. Honda Fireblade, Ducati 996 & '73 Kawasaki Z1 were bargains. 😯 The nice Suzuki GT750 should have got a bit more money. 🤔 The lady auctioneer was very good. Rich old guys are merely putty in her hands! 😂 She was a warrior too, as she appeared to work most of the day! 😅 Amongst my favourite bikes were the Yamaha RD421 'The Shocker', Moto Martin CBX and the Mad Max 'Goose' replica KZ1000 😃
@@derekb2765I think only 2 bidders on the R7,considering it’s been an “ornament” for most of its life and the money that’s been spent on it to bling it up for sale, someone’s lost money on that,.
BSA rocket 3 they were my dream bike, fast and handled better than Triumph trident. The engine was a bit fragile but with modern oil cooking, oils they have far better protection than 55 years ago. They're a rare great classic but spares I don't know
The background noise was an issue in places (e.g. the TT winning Ducati 916). I did use noise reduction, which improved things a bit. Thanks for watching 👍
I’ve seen z1’s sell at American auctions for 30k after you buy the bike pay for restoration and high end fee’s your margins are pretty skinny in my opinion
The RC45 was a bargain, should have gone for around £30k. I thought the Desmo was about right, not far off. No-one interested in the R7 at £22k either! 😯 I hope you're right about prices coming back. 🙏🙏🙏
Ive got an R7 OWO2 and the last 2 to go through auction (both mint) was £32k for a zero mls one and £22k for this latest one that had low mls and been riden through the paint and accessories shop, i'm pitching my "riden" one for £30k, wish me luck, but i only paid £11k for it in 2004,.
Sad to think a lot of those bikes won’t see the road again. I’d ride them , that’s what they were built for
Very true ☹️
Thanks for watching 👍
I’m 76 now still own a ride a motorcycle. Have 3 sons who have had great fun on the back on my various bikes. But not one on them wants to ride or even want my motor bike !
Great that you're still riding mate. 👍 Have your sons given any reasons as to why they're not interested in motorcycling? 🤔
great reporting, thank yoiu
And thank you for watching 👍 Glad you enjoyed it 😃
Thanks 👍
And thanks to you too for watching! 👍
Insane prices
Market's definitely dropped 😬 Thanks for watching 👍
Well, if the worlds going to end, buy that classic bike you always wanted and ride the hell out of it 😊
Yes! Good time to buy too! 😃 Thanks for watching 👍
And if it goes wrong you will be £ucked. If the worlds going to end may as well buy something that you can get spares for, and be assured it will still get to the end of the world.
I didn't get to Stafford this year. Some of the prices were reasonable, others not so.
I did like the RD350 at £3950, but I'm a dyed in the wool Yamaha man, although I've been riding my Honda CB360 a lot this year.
In 1977, my first real bike was a 1975 CB250G5, 47 years later, I'm riding virtually the same bike!
Shame you didn't make it to Stafford, I would have said hello.
I think most prices met lower reserve, but some were a lot lower. If I had garage space, then I would have bid on the 996 and Z1.
I used to be a Yamaha man, now I own 4 Kawasakis lol 😂
The G5 was a lot of bike for a 250, and especially so graduating as l did from an FS1E ! Really well made, our relationship ended when it was stolen from Birmingham city centre. Yes, the older Yamaha's are good, as is the XS650 four stroke
If they want the industry to survive they need to bring prices down for the young riders 18- 34 year olds. Since they are the future of the bike industry.
I think manufacturers are coming up with reasonably priced entry bikes. But a big bar to entry for young people is cost/availability of insurance. 🤔
Entry-level bikes are cheap as chips, to get a licence will cost double the bike and insurance double again. A Chinese manufacturer (yes, it will be them or a supermarket chain) that comes in with a complete CBT/insurance/bike package would clean up.
@@jimtitt3571 The quality of Chinese motorcycles has improved greatly it seems, and the price points are unbeatable 😮
i used to be a motorcycle mechanic at three different dealerships back in the 70s and 80s. I have resurrected a few of those bikes called barn finds. 750 Honda single cam, 750 Honda double overhead cam four-cylinder, Yamaha, XV 920 virago, Kawasaki, two stroke triple 500 cc, Yamaha, RD, 350s, Honda, CB 400 F four-cylinder, Yamaha XS 650 twin, Honda, CB 350 twin.
on my real job, in the field every day, I would spot these bikes, sitting in open garage doors in the backs of peoples garage, mostly. When I would be there working, I would ask them if they would like to sell it. Or if I would see a motorcycle sitting in a garage of an apartment building, I would leave a note in a plastic bag asking if they would want to sell it.
that’s pretty much how I found most of the resurrection so I have done. I won’t buy something that’s been repainted, I won’t buy something with a rebuilt engine, I won’t buy something that’s been modified heavily. I don’t buy x- race, bikes..
I buy them, get them running, change the fluids, new battery, new tires, I make them roadworthy, as though I were going to ride them, which was exactly what I intended to do with them. Ride them myself…
but, without exception, every resurrection I did, was a big disappointment. The memory of those machines when they were new is much better than the motorcycle in real life today. The difference is, today, motorcycles, have better suspension, better breaks, better, geometry, better performance.
I owned some of the bikes that I bought to get back on the road, I owned them back in the day, or I worked on them, and remember riding them when I was a mechanic, or when they belong to friends of mine.
but here now, we have been spoiled gradually, by better and better motorcycles, better ignition systems, they advance the timing these days to the exact moment that the RPMs require on the advance call my fuel injection, gives the exact amount of fuel No matter what elevation you are at. Engines are quieter and making much more power per cc. The engines are quieter because they are water cooled. There is nothing like hearing a Kawasaki three cylinder two-stroke that is air cooled start up.. you can hear those pistons rattling as they go through their stroke, causing the cylinder, fins to ring and vibrate, it’s called piston, rattle. Never mind all the smoke from the overly rich oil pump setting as they come from the factory with.. never mind that that particular bike is one of the worst handling motorcycles in history, skinny frame, tubes, skinny, swing arm tubes, wire wheels, over sprung and underdamped shocks, that motorcycle was born to go into tank slappers. I’ve seen them do it at the race tracks. They did not survive crashes very well. They’ve often ended up, damaging the engine cases and crankshaft. That’s why they are so valuable. Today is because they are so few and far between. there are damn few survivors because they were terrible handlers. In their day they made a lot of power, it was 59 hp. That’s about with the Honda 750 made in those days. Just about every 600 mL sport bike today makes double that and today’s price will actually go run Bends, and you don’t have to rebuild today’s bikes every 20,000 miles.
those CB 350 Honda twins were camshaft, eaters and cam bearing eaters. If you set the timing according to the owners manual of those machines, the timing was wrong. I worked at a Honda shop when a bulletin came into the dealership, telling the dealers to stock three top end rebuild kits for every 10 CB 350 twins they sell. They were that bad. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one with more than 20,000 miles on it without having the top end rebuild. It was also common for the electric starters not to work on those older machines. Which is exactly why they came through with Kickstarter’s, in addition to electric starters on the four strokes…
most of those machines had timing that was set for one specific RPM to be the ideal rpm to have that exact timing. Everything below that exact number the timing would be advanced, everything above that precise number that the timing worked best, your engine performance would drop because the timing became more and more retarded/late for the RPMs. It was spinning at.
there’s no accounting for nostalgia. But spending the kind of money people are spending today on those old antiques from the 70s which makes them approximately 50 years old or older is remarkable to say the least. Would you really want to have like a Kawasaki a model 350 twin to ride on those days you go riding with all your buddies.. would you really want to ride one of those relics from Tampa Bay to Sturgis in August. Do you really want to take a Honda CB 350 twin as your daily commuter on a round-trip of 80 miles a day?
A few years ago, a friend of mine bought a CB 450 Honda that was restored and kept up. It started right now and looked great. He was very proud of it. my friend that had just picked up this CB 450 Honda was more of a motorcycle junkie than me. I don’t know how many motorcycles he has actually had since I have known him, but I’ve had 111 so far, he has had many many more motorcycles than I have, Nortons, BMWs, call mom, moto guzzi call Matt Laverda, as well as dozens of Japanese motorcycles.
so I show up how does house on my daily commuter at the time, a Honda pacific coast. I take his 450 Honda he rides my Honda pacific coast.
I remember and I have the magazines in my collection of thousands of motorcycle magazines somewhere. But when the Honda 450 was introduced, the tester for the magazine said that the physics of mechanical energy have been reached with this for50 Honda. They are reaching the limits of how much power they can get out of displacement with this motorcycle. The tester made it sound like it was an F 16. .. I rode the CB 450s back when I was a mechanic but not for very much more than a few miles at a time after a tuneup. but I rode my friends, newly acquired CB 450 in beautiful condition, and I was actually amazed at how gutless it was. It was running, OK, it idled smoothly, it pulled away from stop sign, smoothly as possible, but it felt like it had about 25 hp. The RD 350 of that time period Felt much faster. I like to know, I roadraced rDs for eight years winning six championships, two time national champion riding an RD..
which brings me to the RD that I resurrected at one time. I have enough parts from my old race, bike, wheels, exhaust, engines, you name it. I have the parts. So I found one and resurrected it. I got it running the way it should run, and it was disappointing. I could not imagine how I ever thought those things were fast. at the radar gun at Summit point, my RD would do 111 miles an hour past the radar gun on the display on the first lap of a 15 lap sprint.. from the seventh lap on, the speed on the display was lucky to reach 97 mph. When they got hot, they got slow…
when the water cooled, RDs called RZ’s showed up, I had one of those, they showed the same top speed on the first lap, as on the last lap. That’s what water cooling did.. But surprisingly, the RZ had the only front forks I ever felt flexing even at normal street riding speeds..
Getting back on track, that’s nice that people like to resurrect and buy these resurrections of these older motorcycles, I myself like 1950s English sports cars. I have a 1958 mga I have owned since I was 15 .years old. I had it restored in 1975 and I put it in the garage and haven’t registered it for the road sense. I was always intending to put it back on the road when I retired, now I’m retired. So my ambition right now is to have ambition.
I am still a motorcycle junkie, but I am shying away from motorcycles with ABS brakes. After the bad experience I had with my BMW K 1200 LT. Going down a gravel covered paved asphalt road, I touched the brakes and I didn’t have any, no brakes, front or rear all the way down that hill. I had about 20 seconds to think, should I jump off, I’m not gonna make that turn at the bottom, should I drag my feet, should I shut the key off, I was lucky there was auto salvage yard at the bottom of the hill that I ran into there, cyclone wire fence to stop only breaking my front fender. I have not owned a motorcycle with ABS brakes since because with ABS, that stands for, all breaking stops. I was lucky that I didn’t end up, going out into a four-lane highway that day with no brakes.. so I guess I do like the slightly older bikes without ABS although I did have a moto guzzi Norge that had a switch right on top of the fairing panel that I could shut the ABS off for those times when you get caught on a gravel road or on mud going downhill or in the snow which has happened to me several times..
I’m just tainted by the sweeping changes and improvements in cars and motorcycles of the past 50 years, cars and motorcycles are better than ever, the old days are not the good old days, these are the good old days, right now
Thank you for the detailed comment 👍 I appreciate both classic and modern bikes, but for different reasons. I'm fortunate to own examples of both, so I can get the best of both worlds 😃
@@derekb2765
my newest bike was a 2019 Kawasaki Z 400. I actually have videos of the bike and some rods I took on it on my RUclips channel. Fun machine.. I bought it and kept it for a couple years but I like something with a little more weight and wheel base and low end. I am on my 111th motorcycle right now. More than Half of them have been street, bikes, or road racing machines
@@Jodyrides111 bikes!!! 😮 That is an impressive motorcycling career. I was a late starter, hence my paltry 15 bikes in comparison. That's my excuse anyway lol 😂
Interesting read 👍
Came here for a comment,ended up reading a book lol!
What did you buy? That Kawi 250 triple was pretty. Sell price?
Ha ha, I didn't buy anything. My garage is full, so I have to sell first. If I had space, then I'd have bid for the 996 Duke, R7 and '73 Z1. Bargains! 😯
I don't recall seeing a Kawasaki KH250. 🤔 There was a very nice purple 1978 KH400, sale price £6750.
Bonkers money, considering that we are entering a recession !!, if you buy a classic bike, make sure it is one you can ride and enjoy, and avoid the garage queens !
speedway bikes are pretty much worthless at the moment, sadly
nice to see the early origional Z900 went for a decent price
That Z1 wasn't a minter, but bikes like that were fetching £16k+ not long ago! 😯
The (now ex) owner of the Wilkinson shared our sentiments regarding bikes being ridden. 👍
@@derekb2765 the fact that the Z1 is unrestored adds to it's value
Can't be many original UK spec ones left
I think it would need a bit of work to get top money 🤔
At least a repaint of the engine. The rest of it looked decent 👍
Errrrr I remember chopping one ie resprayed (rattle can)chopped back mudguard indicators off - I thought it was cool. Cam chain tensioner was rattling like mad and very smokey- so I flogged it for £800 and put it towards a new bike ( I still have that - it's worth about £3000 now) errrr wish I kept it ( z900)
Yes, hindsight is a wonderful thing! 😉
I’m a little bemused that only very early 80s and older are considered classics bikes…when even early 1990’s bikes are now 30+ years old?
The 1930’s, - 1960’s bikes etc.. most people who owned them are either 80+ years old, or dead. How is the interest in these bikes still being maintained?
The bikes that do it for me, are the bikes I had as a young man, so late 80s - 1990’s.. but these era bikes are rarely included as ‘classics’ 💁🏻♂️
Surely us around 45-50+ y/o peeps are starting to encourage interests in these bikes?
(The fact I have 7 1990’s era bikes in my garage….doesn’t make me biased in the slightest 👀😂😂)
I think the definition of what's considered to be vintage or classic depends on who you're talking to! 😉
The VJMC (Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Club) has a rolling 15 year eligibility rule. Other clubs that are more fixed, e.g. those focused on specific models may find their membership starts to dwindle for the reasons you state.
It'd be great if more youngsters would discover the joys 😉 of classic ownership, but I think the world is moving in another direction 🫤
I’m going to have a look in the back of the shed for an old Vincent or a desmo Ducati !,. Freddy the frog offered me £3500 for my cb750k2 a few months ago, that Bonhams lady auctioneer is good,. Not been to Stafford for years, £22000 for the R7 was cheap, what amused me about it is the prices of rusty scrap outside, piss takers most of them,. Someone said to me an auction with 2 people bidding is never going to fetch a good price, if you have say 6 or more bidding the selling price will be high, I wouldn’t fancy the auctioneers fees on that Vincent either .The show and shine rivet counters side of the show is impressive tho,.what caught your eye Derek ? I thought the rocket 3 was a bargain in the auction,.
Was also surprised there were no takers for the R7. RC45 went cheaply. Honda Fireblade, Ducati 996 & '73 Kawasaki Z1 were bargains. 😯 The nice Suzuki GT750 should have got a bit more money. 🤔
The lady auctioneer was very good. Rich old guys are merely putty in her hands! 😂 She was a warrior too, as she appeared to work most of the day! 😅
Amongst my favourite bikes were the Yamaha RD421 'The Shocker', Moto Martin CBX and the Mad Max 'Goose' replica KZ1000 😃
@@derekb2765I think only 2 bidders on the R7,considering it’s been an “ornament” for most of its life and the money that’s been spent on it to bling it up for sale, someone’s lost money on that,.
@@cabovermikeThe R7 didn't reach its reserve, so I assume it didn't sell. Haven't checked the results to verify 🤔
BSA rocket 3 they were my dream bike, fast and handled better than Triumph trident. The engine was a bit fragile but with modern oil cooking, oils they have far better protection than 55 years ago. They're a rare great classic but spares I don't know
@@Ian-bq7gpI like those bikes too. The one in the video sold for £5520 inc. 🤔
£280,000 ok its a nice one but....The auctioneer reminds me of Bridget Jones
Definitely a member of the big pants brigade! 😉 But I liked her style 👍
It seems Brexit was a success after all. Everybody is buying £280,000 motorcycles.
@@fuglbirdThat's why Starmer had to increase taxes, because we've got too much money! 😉
A bit more volume please.
The background noise was an issue in places (e.g. the TT winning Ducati 916). I did use noise reduction, which improved things a bit. Thanks for watching 👍
I’ve seen z1’s sell at American auctions for 30k after you buy the bike pay for restoration and high end fee’s your margins are pretty skinny in my opinion
'73 Z1s of that quality were selling here for around £16-17k 2 years ago, so it shows how much the market's dropped 😯
Honda RVF750 for less than 30K? Not going to get 30k for mine then, obviously! Prices will come back. That Desmo16 was cheap, relatively!
The RC45 was a bargain, should have gone for around £30k. I thought the Desmo was about right, not far off. No-one interested in the R7 at £22k either! 😯 I hope you're right about prices coming back. 🙏🙏🙏
1500 for a fire blade bargain
I know! It was in decent condition too. Worth at least £3k+ normally 😯
As a long time owner of both much modified RC30 and Z900, I'm glad the prices are still high!
RC30 went for decent money, but the '73 Z1 was a bargain! 😯
@@derekb2765 Absolutely! However as my Z900 is extensively modified, the purists/anoraks wouldn't want to pay anywhere near what the Z1 went for!
Ive got an R7 OWO2 and the last 2 to go through auction (both mint) was £32k for a zero mls one and £22k for this latest one that had low mls and been riden through the paint and accessories shop, i'm pitching my "riden" one for £30k, wish me luck, but i only paid £11k for it in 2004,.
@@cabovermikeI'd hang onto it for a bit longer in this financial climate! 💵👌
Yes, but you might get nearer the unmodded price if you've retained any replaced parts 🤔
All i can say is more money than sense just a load of crap
Thanks for sharing your opinion. And thanks for watching 👍
What a great statement ..very informative thanks for sharing your vast knowledge
@@alanplowman3081Maybe they were just trolling 😬
The majority of these they can keep, not worth having even if they were given to you.
Ooh, I dunno about that! Lots of them I'd gladly have in my garage! 😃
@@derekb2765 I have one motorcycle. I like riding it. Why would You want junk in your garage?
@@fuglbirdMine wouldn't be junk, they'd be getting ridden, seen and enjoyed 😃
Interesting content, and prices, being very sexist a woman auctioneer with a high pitched voice, just doesn't fit into the motorcycle scene.
Glad you enjoyed the video. I thought she was great. I've even been mimicking some of her auction moves. She's got style! 😉