May I recommend this to you. Give The Dimarzio Fortitude pickup that Joe Duplantier from Gojira has out. Put one in, plug into your 5150 Stealth and see how that feels. I think you will be blown away. I truly believe that Joe voiced that pickup for that amp. It just crushes.
I ended up putting these in my FGN Iliad modern (replaced the fishman fluence moderns-didn’t like them much) I think the neck is great but the bridge just doesn’t cut it for me for me for an all around guitar. I replaced the bridge with an H4. It’s still a little thin sounding on the bridge but at least can pass for high gain stuff.
Yeah. I like them for their rhythm tone. I think I am going to put them in a different guitar. I just think I will avoid the coil split. But I was surprised by how tight the low end was even for have Alnico 2 magnets.
@@VicioStarbreaker I have no cons,they sound great,what I really like is the solder less installation,if you’re building the guitar from the ground up,be sure to install the ground wire from the bridge stud (the emg system has this covered as well with a solder less connection) my guitar has zero hum and there are several pots and switches that you can add to get different tones,volume is great also,these are great pickups
Personally I love these pickups. I have this set in my SG and LP. It’s a lot more PAF and vintage inspired, which is what I was looking for personally. They work great for my cover band and worship gigs. The mids are a lot more focused with these pickups, and they work for high gain, nothing dropped tuned. Like, I tried lower tunings and they just don’t work for that. Keep it in standard and/or Eb and these pickups can’t be beat IMO
@@BaritoneGoatStudio my LP and SG are both in Eb lol and yes, they are perfect for those kinds of guitars and more traditional tunings! I have a PRS with a set of H2’s that are more ideal for heavy dropped tunes. The guys from children of Bodom and lost society use H2’s exclusively
I’m still rocking the stock H4 and H4A EMG’s in my old Ibanez ARZ400. Cant complain tbh, the combo of alnico neck and ceramic bridge is versatile enough for a cheap guitar.
I may have to grab an H4 and do a comparison. The old HZs for the early 2000s were muddy, but it seems like EMG is making some killer passives these days!
@@BaritoneGoatStudio I ordered my set from EMG with a push / pull split pot that the guy there recommended. I’ll see what happens with it. If it doesn’t work out, I’ll be back to the good old Duncan JB and these will go in something else. 😂👍
@@BaritoneGoatStudio Ugh I finally got them installed. Pain in the rear. Had to route out and file the Charvel pickguard, then cut a new channel inside the control cavity so the lead from the input jack could pop out closer to the tone knob. Lol. Anyway, the bridge pickup sounds great to me. The neck pickup is really, really dark sounding in my guitar. I’m gonna fool with it a bit more, but will likely swap it out.
Pickups (humbuckers) all peak in roughly the same mid-range. Resistance will pull that peak higher or lower, but only slightly. Inductance and magnetic strength can shape the low end of that resonant curve… but once you start adding gain it all starts to flatten out. If you look at a speaker response curve, it looks alot like the resonant curve of a pickup. It is like you took something, boosted it, flattened it with gain, then re-EQed it to look like original signal with way more harmonic noise. The only thing a pickup does if it is well made is be quiet, and respond well to manipulation of the magnetic field. You do need a pronounced resonant peak to have any sort of “attack”. But that can also be faked somewhat with a boost pedal. For recording, even a speaker can be just passable as long as it has enough low end response. Mic placement is probably even more effective for shaping high end. Multiband compression will be the thing to make the tone fit the mix for modern stuff.
I see in these comments that people don’t know about sound (saying pickups don’t do squat) if you don’t have pickups,you get no sound (Dummies) pickups,amps,cords,wood type,and playing style all affect you tone and overall sound
Not yet. these are the first EMG passives I tried based on the fact they have different magnets than what I am used to playing. I ended up swapping these into a LP special and I really like them.
Pickups for high gain are low on the list for the final product. Almost every subsequent step in the chain negates some aspect of the previous step. For recording if you have a good bass guitar tone on the track and are in tune, let a multiband compressor do the rest.
May I recommend this to you. Give The Dimarzio Fortitude pickup that Joe Duplantier from Gojira has out. Put one in, plug into your 5150 Stealth and see how that feels. I think you will be blown away. I truly believe that Joe voiced that pickup for that amp. It just crushes.
Honestly, that pickup is just perfect with about any amp. I use one with a Marshall JVM and a Friedman BE-50 and it is perfect in every way.
Как же приятно видеть Пашу Техника в нормальном состоянии да еще и с электрогитарой! Просто восторг и овации!
I ended up putting these in my FGN Iliad modern (replaced the fishman fluence moderns-didn’t like them much)
I think the neck is great but the bridge just doesn’t cut it for me for me for an all around guitar. I replaced the bridge with an H4. It’s still a little thin sounding on the bridge but at least can pass for high gain stuff.
those actually sound really good very midrangey the pop up they r clear and tight
Yeah. I like them for their rhythm tone. I think I am going to put them in a different guitar. I just think I will avoid the coil split. But I was surprised by how tight the low end was even for have Alnico 2 magnets.
@@BaritoneGoatStudio i think with the harmonics you might wanna try a diffrent pick maybe
I install the Revelation set on a Les Paul type build and they’re great,sound,install and build quality
I’m debating on putting these pups in a les Paul copy any cons you may have?
@@VicioStarbreaker I have no cons,they sound great,what I really like is the solder less installation,if you’re building the guitar from the ground up,be sure to install the ground wire from the bridge stud (the emg system has this covered as well with a solder less connection) my guitar has zero hum and there are several pots and switches that you can add to get different tones,volume is great also,these are great pickups
Best Passive Pick up? Bill Lawerence XL500. Or do the dime thing
Personally I love these pickups. I have this set in my SG and LP. It’s a lot more PAF and vintage inspired, which is what I was looking for personally. They work great for my cover band and worship gigs. The mids are a lot more focused with these pickups, and they work for high gain, nothing dropped tuned. Like, I tried lower tunings and they just don’t work for that. Keep it in standard and/or Eb and these pickups can’t be beat IMO
@@DareBear2099 I swapped them into an LP special that I have in Eb standard and they are perfect for it!
@@BaritoneGoatStudio my LP and SG are both in Eb lol and yes, they are perfect for those kinds of guitars and more traditional tunings! I have a PRS with a set of H2’s that are more ideal for heavy dropped tunes. The guys from children of Bodom and lost society use H2’s exclusively
Alexi Laiho used passive EMGs for quite a while
Yea he had an emg f2 (alnico 2 magnet) with an active preamp
@@VicioStarbreaker my ESP Alexi guitar has this setup... it's really nice
he used the h4 until he got his set
Want easy Pinched Harmonics get the Jim Root EMGs. They are insane
The Jim Root set, Het Set, and the 57 have been some of my favorite active pickups a cross the board!
I’m still rocking the stock H4 and H4A EMG’s in my old Ibanez ARZ400. Cant complain tbh, the combo of alnico neck and ceramic bridge is versatile enough for a cheap guitar.
I may have to grab an H4 and do a comparison. The old HZs for the early 2000s were muddy, but it seems like EMG is making some killer passives these days!
@@BaritoneGoatStudio I wouldn't disagree about muddiness, I set my amp rather bright and have a treble bleed. I rock the bedroom like its the Budokan😎
I have a set of these on order. I have a Charvel with TB6 in it I’m kind of meh on. Wanted to try something different from the usual suspects.
I like the overall texture of the Alnico 2. I will be keeping these but put them in a different guitar without the coil split.
@@BaritoneGoatStudio I ordered my set from EMG with a push / pull split pot that the guy there recommended. I’ll see what happens with it. If it doesn’t work out, I’ll be back to the good old Duncan JB and these will go in something else. 😂👍
@@BaritoneGoatStudio Ugh I finally got them installed. Pain in the rear. Had to route out and file the Charvel pickguard, then cut a new channel inside the control cavity so the lead from the input jack could pop out closer to the tone knob. Lol. Anyway, the bridge pickup sounds great to me. The neck pickup is really, really dark sounding in my guitar. I’m gonna fool with it a bit more, but will likely swap it out.
pickups are pickups. as long as you record your heavy really well and have an amazing speaker. pups dont matter
Pickups (humbuckers) all peak in roughly the same mid-range. Resistance will pull that peak higher or lower, but only slightly. Inductance and magnetic strength can shape the low end of that resonant curve… but once you start adding gain it all starts to flatten out. If you look at a speaker response curve, it looks alot like the resonant curve of a pickup. It is like you took something, boosted it, flattened it with gain, then re-EQed it to look like original signal with way more harmonic noise.
The only thing a pickup does if it is well made is be quiet, and respond well to manipulation of the magnetic field. You do need a pronounced resonant peak to have any sort of “attack”. But that can also be faked somewhat with a boost pedal.
For recording, even a speaker can be just passable as long as it has enough low end response. Mic placement is probably even more effective for shaping high end. Multiband compression will be the thing to make the tone fit the mix for modern stuff.
I wired eng pickups to 500k cts pots just to see if theys any different there won't same with 1meg pot
I see in these comments that people don’t know about sound (saying pickups don’t do squat) if you don’t have pickups,you get no sound (Dummies) pickups,amps,cords,wood type,and playing style all affect you tone and overall sound
You tried the MF set ?
Not yet. these are the first EMG passives I tried based on the fact they have different magnets than what I am used to playing. I ended up swapping these into a LP special and I really like them.
Your speaker set up will make all of your difference. Pickups don't do squat
Pickups for high gain are low on the list for the final product. Almost every subsequent step in the chain negates some aspect of the previous step. For recording if you have a good bass guitar tone on the track and are in tune, let a multiband compressor do the rest.
Ok Glenn. “Pickups don’t do squat” is total bullshit.
@@JayBruceWorld First, it was tonewoods that didn't matter, now it's pickups that don't matter, lol. I wonder what they'll say next.
@@nckhedamps don't do squat