Great info. I'll be sharing this with my team. We discuss this often but you put in such a great digestible manner. We have a young man that comes in with a small back pack and combat boots with bloused pants. Sets my spidey sense off every time. He seems to be a good kid though, he's been in a couple of times and always very quite and polite.
Hey David....thanks for commenting and sharing! Ya that is great that you are paying attention to this kid. Good chance after you get to know him and can converse more, you can ask or he will tell you why he does this boots/bloused pants and that will be a big insight. Does your church check backpacks, have you checked his? Some churches do and some are asked to be hands off on any checking backpacks. Thanks again for sharing David!
Joe, great info I'll be sharing this with our team. I have a question though. You mentioned your team keeps a low profile, and I've herd you talk before about uniforms (shirts or hats) or not. So how do you reconcile making the church a hard target with keeping a low profile, no shirts or hats? This is a discussion that's been going on ever since I've been involved, about 12 years now. So, my thought is if a bad person sees security something like a security shirt, hat, badge, then they are most likely not to mess with the church. If they don't see anything, then they might think there is no security and initiate and issue. Therefore, it comes down to deterrence versus response. Your thoughts?
Dragon great questions and yes please share!! My OPINION is we have to have a balance of welcoming friendly environment VS. safety and security. We do this at our church with a 4 x 5 inch name tag on a break free lanyard around our necks. It could say "Guest Services" "Hospitality" whatever you want it to say. This keeps the ability to visit with a possible suspicious person, without saying SECURITY.....but when you are standing at the front door inside the lobby or 1 or 2 of you are walking the parking lot or around the building, it becomes obvious there is someone watching over the campus / parking lot, if someone was watching your church. You are still standing guard, patrolling the perimeter or the parking lot and you have a big tag around your neck. I think this is enough for most of our small churches. Now if you are downtown in a metro area and a high crime area......you should have a uniform police officer that you have contracted with, or a uniformed security officer or a shirt that says "Security" because the security in that high crime area is more important at that point and you can still be welcoming to people, but you need the deterent. For most of our churches we need a good balance I believe of welcoming friendly family environment vs. having a bold security shirt or hat standing out too much. Don't forget it makes it harder to visit with people or suspicious people or just a visitor when you have SECURITY plastard all over you! You become uncomfortable as to why are you talking to me......great thoughts Dragon!
@@andrewfaint5274 I would never tell anyone not to wear body armor if they have it and have permission. If it is on the outside of your shirt, I would just say does the need to enhance security outweigh the need for a warm welcoming friendly environment? Remember the chances of having a shooting at your church are minimal, vs. the need for a welcoming environment is multiple times every day that your church is in session! I would try to have surveillance cameras before body cameras. Again a body warn camera,, just spells SECURITY and something many people will not feel warm and welcoming if you are wearing it. They do not like to be on video...... So I do not know where you are located ....high crime area....but I like the "Secret Service" concept for church security. Warm and friendly guy, with a name tag on that seems friendly.....but if something bad happens than the "Take action" comes out of you.
Lithuania does indeed have those kinds of markings. I have worked closely in the past with them.
You are a great help to me and my security team at church.
Well I am glad that our team can help your team! Thank you for watching and commenting!
Thank you so much for your help
Thank you so much for your help with this video
Preparing to present the concept of a security team to the church leadership. Very helpful information. Keep it coming!!
Go Dan!! Thanks for sharing and let us know how it goes presenting security to them!
Great info. I'll be sharing this with my team. We discuss this often but you put in such a great digestible manner. We have a young man that comes in with a small back pack and combat boots with bloused pants. Sets my spidey sense off every time. He seems to be a good kid though, he's been in a couple of times and always very quite and polite.
Hey David....thanks for commenting and sharing! Ya that is great that you are paying attention to this kid. Good chance after you get to know him and can converse more, you can ask or he will tell you why he does this boots/bloused pants and that will be a big insight. Does your church check backpacks, have you checked his? Some churches do and some are asked to be hands off on any checking backpacks. Thanks again for sharing David!
Once again, great advice to help keep our churches safe!
Thank you John and thanks for watching/commenting!
Slips, trips and falls. By far the greatest 'threat'. 👍 🙏😆
i walk around parking lot
eyes and ears offices
and i serve everywhere
Excellent TJ.....parking lots at our churches is a great place to focus.
Joe, great info I'll be sharing this with our team. I have a question though. You mentioned your team keeps a low profile, and I've herd you talk before about uniforms (shirts or hats) or not. So how do you reconcile making the church a hard target with keeping a low profile, no shirts or hats? This is a discussion that's been going on ever since I've been involved, about 12 years now. So, my thought is if a bad person sees security something like a security shirt, hat, badge, then they are most likely not to mess with the church. If they don't see anything, then they might think there is no security and initiate and issue. Therefore, it comes down to deterrence versus response. Your thoughts?
Dragon great questions and yes please share!! My OPINION is we have to have a balance of welcoming friendly environment VS. safety and security. We do this at our church with a 4 x 5 inch name tag on a break free lanyard around our necks. It could say "Guest Services" "Hospitality" whatever you want it to say. This keeps the ability to visit with a possible suspicious person, without saying SECURITY.....but when you are standing at the front door inside the lobby or 1 or 2 of you are walking the parking lot or around the building, it becomes obvious there is someone watching over the campus / parking lot, if someone was watching your church. You are still standing guard, patrolling the perimeter or the parking lot and you have a big tag around your neck. I think this is enough for most of our small churches. Now if you are downtown in a metro area and a high crime area......you should have a uniform police officer that you have contracted with, or a uniformed security officer or a shirt that says "Security" because the security in that high crime area is more important at that point and you can still be welcoming to people, but you need the deterent. For most of our churches we need a good balance I believe of welcoming friendly family environment vs. having a bold security shirt or hat standing out too much. Don't forget it makes it harder to visit with people or suspicious people or just a visitor when you have SECURITY plastard all over you! You become uncomfortable as to why are you talking to me......great thoughts Dragon!
Does anyone on your wear a vest that at front or in y'alls lobby ? I am asking.If not I think they should .
Hey Andrew.....are you talking a bullet proof vest?
@@ChurchSecurityAnswersYes i am .most of the time the door person is the first one .or have a body camera .
@@ChurchSecurityAnswers Yes i am 'i make sure i have it on .the door man will be the first contac.
on our team, two of us wear vests. The pastoral guard and myself. We both also carry guns. We both have CCWs and are armed security licensed.
@@andrewfaint5274 I would never tell anyone not to wear body armor if they have it and have permission. If it is on the outside of your shirt, I would just say does the need to enhance security outweigh the need for a warm welcoming friendly environment? Remember the chances of having a shooting at your church are minimal, vs. the need for a welcoming environment is multiple times every day that your church is in session! I would try to have surveillance cameras before body cameras. Again a body warn camera,, just spells SECURITY and something many people will not feel warm and welcoming if you are wearing it. They do not like to be on video...... So I do not know where you are located ....high crime area....but I like the "Secret Service" concept for church security. Warm and friendly guy, with a name tag on that seems friendly.....but if something bad happens than the "Take action" comes out of you.
I don't agree with taking him.through a side door ,that would be giving him.more access to enter another way.
Hey Vikki, thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Interesting that you mention drug’s & alcohol 🥃 but you subscribe to using the most over used drug in the USA, caffeine
Thanks for great advice
Thanks Charlie for watching and the comment!