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HOTD: Official Podcast: S2 Ep. 4: Eve Best on Rhaenys' Epic Dragon Battle
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- Jason and Greta break down the epic fourth episode of the season. They talk with Eve Best (Rhaenys Targaryen) about her character’s fateful decision and later, with director/executive producer Alan Taylor on balancing the magic and horror of a battle between dragons.
Never a battle as beautiful as this one. RIP Meleys. You were a good girl.
I don't have it in me to say goodbye to Rhaenys. She was my favourite.
Good night Meleys. You fought til the end. 😞
So was eve
The best girl 😭
❤ rest in ✌
35:00 Eve Best joins 🖤 Rhaenys
Thank you so much❤
Thank you
Thank you 🔥
Thanks! So annoying that there aren’t time stamps
You deserve Heavens.. bro thank you
This episode was masterful television. I’m in awe of how this franchise is able to captivate time and time again. Getting veteran Thrones director Alan Taylor for what was the most important episode of HOTD yet made perfect sense. (That Dragon battle?!! INSANE!!)
The amount of work that goes into these shows is truly incredible. The house that dragons built (a show also on HBO) shows everything they do to make this terrific show.
On God I had several moments in which I was literally not believing my eyes, this episode was the moment that elevated the show to Masterpiece
When Rhaenys tightened the reins and led Meleys for more battle. Damn.
I know right! I was like " hey just fly away now, everything will be alright!"
Rhaenys pulls the reins and turns around
Me : noooooooo
@@bravosix8166 big same! I kept thinking, keep flying for backup, get outa there. Then that u-turn, and courage. I felt that through my core.
Lord Corly's reaction to his wife's demise is gonna be devastating to see. Super excited to see the aftermath of Rook's Rest in episode 5. This show is cooking!
It's going to be interesting, that's for sure. I've just started the podcast, but I got the definitive vibe that Rhaenys was done. She tried, she knew she'd die. After meeting her husbands bastard, knowing he still had family, missing her own two children, knowing she did fail her family by not lighting up the Greens when she escaped KL. All of it. She was out.
EDIT: I also love how Daemon blamed Rhaenys for her failure, and yet, had Daemon not ran away, he could have probably helped Rhaenys/Meleys kill Aemond/Vhagar.
The moments when Rhaenys leans on Meleys before going for the battle and when she accepts her fate when plummeting down with Meleys, oh, why you had to make it so heartwrenching! God, I love Rhaenys and Eve Best, what a character and an actor. Rhaenys, truly an awesome character with wisdom, grace, loyalty, courage & honour and Eve Best brought her to life. Truly the one who actually deserved to be the Queen. Will miss both Rhaenys and Eve 💔
Episode 4 was an emotional rollercoaster. While I enjoyed the battle scene, I was deeply saddened by the deaths of these two major characters, Rhaenys and Meleys. What a blow for Team Black.
That depends on what happen to Aegon and Sunfire. They are badly hurt or dead. Huge moment and the lose evens out despite the emotions.
@@TRIPTHEMAN65 that would be crazy if Aegon was still alive but with 3rd degree burns on 75% of his body lol
maybe he'll listen to his mom now n sit his ass back
Otto plotted for Aegon to be king in name, not in practice, he wanted a puppet
"... and we are the poorer for it."
Truuuuu😂
It was amazing how Eve can act with her eyes. I cried for every Dragon who got hurt (pet owners might understand) but how Rhaenys and Meleys looked at each other, right in the feels! 💔 And they could've gone away twice! I think that was extra for the book readers. It worked 😢❤️🐉
Totally, I felt like I was watching my cat getting killed 😢
I was really upset too as I watched the dragons get hurt during the fights. It was gut wrenching as I imagined a pet getting hurt and dying.
RIP Rhaenys Targaryen (The Queen Who Never Was) and Meleys (The Red Queen) we shall never see their likes again.
I was sad to see them go. Rhaenys was so solid, and would have been a fantastic Queen.
No matter who wins, its heartbreaking seeing the dragons maim and kill each other like this, knowing how rare and unique each one is
Yes! Humans just suck even in fiction! 😭😭
Hopefully the slow attention span people will stop complaining bout there being no big battles/dragon battles. R.I.P. to the Queen that should’ve been 💯
I know, right? It would not have been the same emotional impact if we didn’t have all this build up
Honestly, as a book reader I knew it was coming in this episode, but it was still too soon. My heart😢
Ironically if the slow attention span crowd got what they wanted, the show would become boring real fast. There's a dragon death every time they fight, we'd literally lose all the dragons and be stuck with eggs and baby dragons in the final season
BOT
the irony is that now there are thousands of complaints that it is too heartbreaking to see dragons fight and die :D
Thank you Alan for giving Aegon such depth. I'm sure you and TGC had to fight for it, but you managed to communicate so much humanity and complexity with the few scenes you were allowed. Heartbreaking stuff.
I bawled my eyes out crying watching Meleys turning to Rhaenys like saying byeeeeee 😭💔😭💔😭💔😭💔😭💔😭💔
me too
Yeah, that took my heart.
And she checks on her all throughout 😢my heart ❤️🩹❤️🩹
Even though I know the book, I was screaming 'Meleys please don't turn! Flee!'
@@hafsahassan394 for the teensiest tinyest fraction of a second I thought she was getting away and it was another show variation. 💔💔
You want fire and blood until you have to watch beautiful dragons die. I’m depressed after that episode.
Even though they are computer graphics, I still get upset when they get hurt☹️
Poor Sunfyre, completely outclassed and ridden by a drunk petulant child. At least Meleys got to go down like the fast warrior she was. Sunfyre was like a golden retriever being torn up by a pitbull and a mastiff.
Right? I really liked Eve Best as Rhaenys. It really hurt seeing her go back for more knowing she was accepting her fate
My favorite character just died. 😢
Noted
I think Rhaenys backed Rhaenyra because she loved her cousin, Viserys, like he was her brother. I think the Blacks backing their queen is rooted in their continued respect and love for Viserys.
I think Rhaenys backed her because of absolute primogeniture and equality between men and women.
@@PurpleAlogiaI think both are true, and also the fact that I think Rhaenys honestly believed Rhaenyra could be a force for peace in the kingdom. The thing about forceful power-grabbing is that it never quite stops after the power has been grabbed, which is one of the overarching themes of both HOTD and GOT, and I think Rhaenys was trying to quietly sound the alarm from the very beginning
This has to be considered a moment in television history. That was absolutely amazing!!
It certainly was a moment in television history.
The Queen that Should Have Been, Princess Rhaenys volunteered to go to Rook's Rest, and went out like a boss. We will miss her and the beautiful Red Queen Dragon, Meleys. The other moment that made me nostalgic when Aemond looks up and sees King Aegon on Sunfyre and says "idiot", reminiscent of when Jamie was charging to take out Danaerys in GoT, and Tyrion looking from afar calls him an idiot, too.
I was most proud of how Rhaenys spoke for Alyn. Talk about grace. Catelyn could never.
Ohh thats a great point and comparison!
Eve best is one of the best (No pun intended) British actresses, and I don’t say this lightly. She has the simplicity and honesty that’s needed to move the audience to literal tears. Wether she’s doing Shakespeare or comedy (like Nurse Jackie) or house of the dragon, she always brings her A game. If you ever have the opportunity to see her in theatre please do; it’s an acting masterclass
Long live the memory of Rhaenys the queen that should have been.
I was so emotional this episode. Heartbreaking! Thrilling episode!!!
RIP RHAENYS AND MELEYS
Why on earth 😢
“We go to battle again old girl”
When she said that my heart sunk. When shows do that it’s never a good omen 😂
Fantastic episode.
Send all your dragons next time tho cmon. 😂
Yeah, I said oh no out loud lol
daemon's in harrenhall, consuming strange potions concocted by a strange woman and losing his mind.
Excellent television at its best. Thank you. Rest In Peace. I have a soft space in my heart for Eve Best. The only actress in the cast I knew , from playing Edie Falco’s best friend and confidant on SHO Nurse Jackie
Sidenote but I’ve been thinking of watching that show. Is it pretty good? I can’t quite remember the genre it falls in.
@@kiana685It's good, give it a go :) Drama/comedy
They went out in the battle together like true warriors-queens they both were. Rhaenys Targaryen, The Queen Who Never Was (but definitely should have been) and Meleys, The Red Queen 👑 🐉🐲
That episode was exactly what I've been waiting and hoping for.
If one thinks about it, some Gregor vs. Oberyn vibes here.
First, one would think there is a clear favorite, this huge thing.
Then, one sees how a smaller but faster fighter actually has an edge and is winning.
Finally, we get a reminder that against a huge thing one miscalculation means death.
Kudos to Aemond for being able to bugger off and hide his Boeing 747 behind a castle on such a short notice.
Vhagar taking off reminds me of the Boeing 747 taking off too ✈️ so huge and elegant
Yeah. Remarkable how Ms. Vhagar hides behind a castle half her own size, and snatches the fastest dragon in the world as if Vhagar is not 180 years old.
Seem like Mereyse flying back to Dragonstone and Vhagar coming up from the cliff isn’t it ?
@@Blablablabla-i8qlooked more like Rhaenys was looking for Vhagar, trying to figure out where she disappeared.
Vhaegar was also Rhaenys' daughter's dragon. Just a reminder.
Heartbreaking! I cried for the Dragons!!!
Even tho i Read the book and knew Rhaenys fate so I figured I'd be able to deal with it........nope but she did do a lot of damage.
Same! I was on the edge of my seat! So good
Still wish they kept it as her burning Aegon so it was not in vain instead of Aemond,just feel like it takes away her one biggest moment in the war putting the king and a dragon out of action.
@@BTSSPARATAN Yeah, but Sunfyre wings and body permanently damaged... That was worth it. Poor guy streaming broke my heart, can't say the same for Aegon.
Rhaenys had two chances to end the war. The coronation day and when Daemon was urging her for them to attack Vhagar together. With Vhagar gone- war's over with minimal casualty.
Whoever though tabout having an official podcast about these HBO shows give'em a raise.
I had read the events of this conflict a long time ago and had purposely not refreshed up on the history. It really got to me to lose both Rhaenys and Meleys 😢
Queen Who Should Have Been 😢❤❤
I will really miss Eve Best
The strange thing is that I'm a still a student of history and read about The Anarchy, and we all know the outcome...but,Eve Best did such an amazing portrayal of Rhaenys and Meleys...I'm still crying
Well done crew and staff!!
A pretty sad story, all around
Alicent and Otto have been planning to make Aegon king his whole life but have taught him nothing and blame him for not knowing.
She is the Queen of Hearts, the Red Queen who should have been, and earned her place through fire and blood. Long live the Red Queen and the Red Dragon Rheanys and Meleys! 🐉 👑 🔥 🩸❤️🔥🥀
I have never cried this much for a GOT/HOTD character, Rhaenys and Meleys broke my heart, they are badass queens!! Eve Best is the....well, the BEST!!
Eve Best! What an actor, awesome!
I knew Rhanys had to die this episode but it does make me sad.
Gwayne MIGHT be my favorite Hightower in the show despite how he came off in his “re” opening last week
Ryan C also said "devastating for both sides"
The 2 Queens!!!!! :(
I'm gonna miss Eve so much 😢 ❤️
We finally got a proper introduction to Sunfyre the Golden! Can’t wait to see him and Aegon never give up on one another for the rest of the Dance.
Finally a good comment, agreed. Their bond is the best
i haven’t cried like this in a GOT ep since Hodor 😢
Did anybody else notice how strong melyse scales was and was struggling breaking through melyse scales and sunfyre scale was smooth like a dunner scale on a beared dragon sunfyre scale was easily cutted through could the dragons have different scale type
Meleys was like 70 year old while Sunfyre is very young, although we don't know exactly his age, we know he is a young dragon.
@@leykimayriI remember that Sunfyre is barely more than a baby, but very big for his age. Somehow he grew substantially with Aegon as a rider lol.
So this was like taking a tween to a fight with an MMA fighter and a nuclear bomb.
Don’t forget Daemon lost a cousin
Anyone who has to say “ I am the king is no true king” Tywin Lannister. I am reminded of this just about every time Aegon says I am the king
so what, rhaenyra also says she is the rightful heir but it's not like her own council takes her seriously lol
@@vizalloteafilter true they don’t. No one ever has in a small council even her father
@@vizalloteafilter i do like the differentiation between R saying she's the heir and A saying he's the king. it sounds more petulant when he says king
@@vizalloteafilter exactly lol
I actually felt bad for Aegon in these last few eps. He grew up thinking his half sister was legal heir & his father's favorite, he was never really educated about Targ history or how to rule, he was forced to marry his own sister & only ever got verbal & physical abuse from his mother. He had no guidance, no ambition, no purpose & no discipline THEN he is literally installed as a puppet king dragged to the throne kicking & screaming. He wasn't respected or prepared & he knew it. Had his child not been murdered, If he had appointed Aemond as his Hand (if Larys hadn't poisoned him with paranoia)..he could have possibly turned things around & matured into the role & been less impulsive.....maaaaaaybe? He was just SO unequipped/unprepared for the position that he inherited as first born male child. Bad news for everybody, especially himself.
agree 100%. he was dealt an unfair hand that he wasn't raised or prepared for. and then after installing him as the puppet king, they burst his bubble by telling him to 'do nothing'. way to confirm his impotence and destroy any shred of dignity
Agreed, and the fact that he was burned by his own brother only makes it worse, he can't even count on his own family
@@leonardohenrique5172 yeah. i wouldn't blame him for being a terrible human being, his seems to be the product of nurture (or lack thereof) than nature.
well. maybe except for the bit where he raped the servants. that seems so trivial in comparison to mass murder and everything, even though it really isn't.
That's not nearly enough time with Eve. 😢Her character has been so pivotal. She has carried so many heavy moments. She really should have been nominated for supporting actress for season 1 and 2.
PLEASE get Jason to stop calling Criston Christopher. He kept saying it last episode and again on this one. It’s really irritating using the wrong name. It’s not like it’s a shortening of his name like Jace/ Jacaerys or Luce/ Lucerys. It’s Criston!
I mean, in book fandom you'd hate to hear our nicknames for him. Crispy Cream. C*nty Cole. Lord Escort. Cole Pole. A bed.
It's funny because I pronounce it more like Christian to the point where I actually accidentally sometimes type Christian 😂
Excerpts from Fire and Blood:
“Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to flee. With a glad cry and a crack of her whip, she turned Meleys toward the foe……”
“Beloved daughter of Lady Jocelyn Baratheon and Prince Aemond Targaryen, faithful wife to Lord Corlys Velaryon, mother and grandmother, the Queen Who Never Was lived fearlessly, and died amidst blood and fire. She was fifty-five years old.” GRRM
Great and well made video episode!!!! Everyone involved with the show should be proud!!!!
Aemond vs Daemon 1 on 1 for the crown, who y’all got ?
Daemon
The Rogue, of course. Daemon all day.
Daemon lost the first dragon fight he was in lmao
Would probably end in a draw...
Meleys, Rhaenys and Sunfyre getting smoked was horrible to see 😭 😭 amazing episode
Pour one out for Eve Best. She was phenomenal this whole show.
RIP Red Queen & The Queen of our Hearts
The dragon riding sequences in this ep were amazing. So thrilling & so sad 😮
BEST SHOW OF THE YEAR‼️🔥🩸⚔️
Sooo good ❤
Rhaenyra is the true and rightful Heir
Couple of thoughts on Rhaenyra going to KL: I have a feeling that it would have been safer to go in disguise as a Septa overland rather than by sea (probably harder to sneak through the port of KL than the main gates), so THAT would have taken time; but also it's possible that scenes went out of linear sequence too, so that R's meeting with Alicent could provide a good ending to ep3 and not have to be squeezed into ep4, what with everything else going on.
Rhaenyra and Mysara I like it .she will be a very valuable Allie . And Asset to Rhaenyra
The people behind the camera are such craftspeople and I love all the insight 🥰🥰
I love how the episode wasn’t just on the battle alone the story line for all the characters still moved forward with the audience! One thing that used to to drive me crazy about GOT was that the audience had to wait 1 or 2 episodes for their favorite storylines to be aired. RIP the queen that never was, I will miss her strength in putting the boys in their place 😂
Eve Best gave an incredible portrayal of Rhaenys. I cried at this loss. Meleys and Rhaenys were queens in their own right and the show just won't be the same without Eve. Still, we stan. Long rest, the queen that should've been and her legendary dragon The Red Queen Meleys ❤😢 Its funny that I even knew the battle was coming but still cried. It sucks how we lose these incredible characters all because of a misunderstanding. Imagine what would have been had Alicent actually known what Visirys was talking about lol. What if the dragon lords had actually told their small folk of ASOIAF. What would things have been like had the public known of it? I honestly felt a certain level of heartbreak for Sunfyre and Aegon. These were both children that had no idea what they were flying into. They had no clue. Sunfyre wasn't that battle hardy yet. Just such a fatal mistake made for one's hubris. Even more heartbreaking was seeing the love between Aegon and Sunfyre for one moment before they get completely wrecked by Meleys and Vhaegar. Such an epic episode with a lot of unfortunate and unnecessary losses 😢.
We have a misconception that Targaryens are immune to fire but they are still slightly vulnerable to it as depicted by G.R.R.M but I couldn’t understand that how Sunfyre got burnt in that scene off of fireball from Vhagar in that trio fight? Do you get it? Or is it only injury that caused Sunfyre fall.
Sunfyre was already severely injured. They're scales are not as thick. So the combination is enough to push them over the edge.
@@MCrvngraddip2013 yeah but after first claw from meleys inspite of bleeding he took off again after the fall but when Vhagar give him a blow then he looked so burnt and eventually fell like dead
Rhaenys surely was fit to be a queen - a wise head, a diplomat first and next a fierce warrior.
If the Lords didn't accept her, Rhaenyra didn't stand much of a chance.
I don’t like seeing the dragons fight. Its a reminder that the only house that can defeat them is themselves. Sad really.
You guys recorded this quick! Lol
They get the episodes ahead of us minions
@@amarbyrd2520 yeah I know man I was just joshing
EVE REALLY IS THE BEST 😭✨👑❤️
Remember when Rhaenys told Rhaenyra that so many things have happened already that who know when the war really began?
After seeing Daemon’s experience last episode and this one, I’m pretty prepared to say that the Dance of Dragons really started back at Harrenhal during the Great Counsel.
Harrenhal is obviously haunted and has the ability to mess with people’s minds. Plus, the area used to belong to the Children of the Forest, once humanity’s foes.
Okay, so, who’s to say that the weirwoods or spirits or what have you in Harrenhal weren’t messing with everyone who voted for Viserys as the next king the whole time? Maybe not on the obvious level on which they’re now messing with Daemon but subtle nudging here and there.
Of the two cousins, it was clear that the realm would fall into chaos under Viserys within one generation and that’s precisely what happened.
Even if Viserys had never married again, we probably still would have gotten a war over the throne - only this time with Daemon in Aegon’s place.
With Rhaenys, there is a greater chance for a lasting peace beyond her death.
So, the forces of Harrenhal put Viserys on the throne. If the Targaryens start to rip each other apart, the dragons die and soon there are no more dragons. It’s like disarming a country of its nukes.
I think whatever controls Harrenhal was playing the long game - the really long game - against the Targaryens.
also i am blaming this loss on daemon and his side quest i harrenhal. caraxes and meleys would have BODIED vhagar
not even min 2 and im already in tears
This episode hit me hard emotionally to the point of contemplating organizing a memorial for Rhaenys and Meleys.
Gon miss u eve u did a helluva job 🙂↕️🙂↕️
I like that we’re describing Aegon’s decision-making process as “much drinking and deep thinking” when we all know it’s mostly just the former
Meyeles should have know Aemons Dragon was his by building, where else could it be?
So wouldn’t you blast Flames as your coming around or the smarter thing is go high and give your self space.
Jason, your voice sounds like the caracter known as "glasses" on Grey's Anatomy. Im loving it!
An awesome episode! Wonder if the King survived but it didn't look like it! Sibling rivalry??????
I think Aemond could argue that he has no choice since Rhaenys is there when he Dracarys the sh*t out of Aegon to the ground. He can say that his aim is to Rhaenys. RIP to the queens: Rhaenys and Meleys.
The horror and devastation of dragons in battle is highlighted by losing Rhaenys and Maelys, so emotional!
My favourite character and probably my favorite dragon 😢 I'll miss both. RIP Rhaenys and Meleys 🖤🖤🖤
It's always that loud silence with the 'Sour Patch Kid' and his dragon that makes me scared because death is always near. I can't wait to see the awaited battle between the 'second borns' because this is what it's all about in my opinion.
The bigger story (white walkers) means absolutely nothing in the end as it's a Stark that defeats him. The only Targeryon contribution was giving them a Dragon to destroy the ice wall.
Alicent had no right to come down on Aegon that hard. All that time "ruled in [his] father's name" what, EXACTLY, were she and Otto doing to help TEACH Aegon how to rule, to groom him into a king? Not a damn thing. Even before Viserys settled on Rhaenyra as his heir, he had her filling cups in the council chamber where she could listen and learn as part of her training. Why the hell didn't Alicent or Otto start doing that with Aegon. Hell, why didn't they start with him MUCH sooner than that, when he was still very young? They'd been trying for 2 decades to get Viserys to change his mind, so why didn't they ever prepare for that? They could have held Aegon up as an example of virtue and chivalry and deep thought/intelligence if they had only molded him to BE that. They spent so long plotting to get that boy ON the throne that they didn't think about what to do with him once he was there.
She asks him cuttingly if he thought just wearing the crown would make him wise. Did SHE think that just wearing the crown would turn him into someone more patient and thoughtful? He acts out to get attention, he drinks to excess because he's DEEPLY unhappy. She hasn't been a mother to him. She doesn't know how to be, evidently. Idk when she lost her mother, but her father sure didn't treat her with any love or affection, so she hasn't treated her kids with any either.
I wish we had asked her about why Rhaenys decided to stay and fight rather then leave
The greens are not true Targaryens. To parade the very sigil of their house like that is terrible. RIP TO THE FEARLESS PRINCESS RHAENYS THE QUEEN WHO NEVER WAS AND MELEYS.
Have you actually read about the Targaryens? Most of them were useless lol
Team green has the largest dragon but that dragon seem old and tired. Tired of human crap. Lol
The attention to detail with the boiling blood falling on the soldiers
I read some comments saying that Visenya probably used ambush tactics in Dorne, and Vhagar still remembers them
Great show
Rhaenys may be the queen that never was but she is the BIGGEST BOSS in the show!
Aegon did not want to be King and no one taught him how to be King. It surprising they are disappointed in him
Loved her 😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩
Oh this lady was very well cast!