We need this as steelers fans. Kenny needs to know his job isnt guaranteed, he doesn't get the privilege ben earned. Mason has been so humble his entire tenure on the team, and deserves his chance to lead. We want Kenny pissed, we want him to play out of spite. We want mason to try and take his job too. Tomlin used to say 2 dawgs 1 bone. Who wants it more?
@@SavoMorrisRavens weren't willing to trade him unless the package was ridiculous, they wanted a top 5 pick last year plus atleast 4 more first, and even if the Steelers had the assets, the Ravens weren't gonna trade him to a division rival and have to play him twice a year, Same reason Favre had to go to the Jets before the Vikings because the Packers didn't want to play him twice
Matt Canada wasn't the reason for Pickett throwing behind receivers, or not seeing wide open receivers, or staring down his #1 read, or spinning into sacks in a clean pocket. Mason should finish the season.
🎯 hell the play he got hurt on was due to pocket panic. Watch the All 22 and it clearly shows his first read wasn’t there but CA III was wide open to his left and Najee was wide open to his right and both were walk-in TD’s. But he panicked and ran through the pocket and got creamed. His injury was self induced due to panicking instead of reading his options.
You have fans believing that a failed OC like Sullivan is an upgrade. I swear, most of SteelersNation does not know what goes on in the rest of the NFL. If only they knew that Sullivan’s Giants offense once averaged 15 ppg for an entire season.
Kenny Pickett is a better story than he is a quarterback. That doesn't mean he's permanently trash. It just means the dude has more development / progress needed.
Right now hes trash frankly thats all hes ever gonna be unless he makes a giant leap which would suprise me I mean all of a sudden hes gonna be calm in the pocket and be calm enough to go through his reads and start scoring consistent tds, thats what the job requires I think not. I think it would be better for him and us if he retired because of the concussions he should'nt ruin the rest of his life.
They drafted him as nfl ready now qb. That was his only upside out of the draft. If we have to wait and waste 2 years to develop a qb with bad habits/mechanics with very low ceiling, that’s gonna piss people off
@@WhatIsTime_ They only put him in because Trubisky wasn’t getting it done. If Mitch had be decent, he’d have sat all year. Kenny looked good in 4th quarter drives year, but he hasn’t improved. Canada was part of the problem, and the OL is part, but it seems Kenny has a confidence/leadership problem. The leadership issue is big because the offense is young and don’t have veteran leaders like Pouncey, DeCastro, Heath, or Ben. I think Mason is the right guy for now and Kenny can learn a lot if he is willing and gets his ego out of the way.
Feed the hot hand. Kenny is coming off an injury. Give Rudolph the next game and see how it goes. Show not only the team what he can do but potentially other teams if they decide to part ways
Kenny wasn’t good before injury!! 3rd and goal multiple games and the ball is not thrown to the wide open receiver in the end zone!! 30-6 loss vs Texans!! Kenny one read Pickett did the same thing on the play he injured himself on!! Kenny one read Pickett is about the worst QB in the national football league when it comes to finding the open receiver!! That’s the number 1 thing you want your quarterback to do!! Steelers had it backwards!!
Ben Roethlisberger was about as helpful and encouraging to Mason Rudolph as Brett Favre was to Aaron Rodgers. Neither Ben nor Brett had an ounce of concern for their QB2.
Who is a higher draft pick Mitch or Mason? Because if him competing against Mitch who was supposed to be the starter on the team he came from wasn't enough how would it be more competition for Mason who was underneath Big Ben in trained under him to light a fire I don't get it. Might as well run with the hot hand with Mason, and then I think sorted out in the offseason lol doing it like this is crazy it's not going to help in my opinion but we shall see
Rudolph looked better in his one start than Kenny did in any game he’s played. Kenny has potential but his pocket presence is still awful, needs time to develop.
I can respect Kenny's desire to play and not being happy with riding the bench but Mason shows more poise on the field and at the podium. I'm not surprised Mason is the starter and I wouldn't be upset if he stays QB1 if he balls out Sunday.
@@jtfikeno he didn’t dude tf are you smoking😭 he had 278 with 0 TD’s. Lenny consistently throws between 100-200 yards, which is subpar, and he throws NO touchdowns. Ever.
Kenny has had the same amount of chances as Rudolph. They both had one game without Matt Canada against the Bengals. Kenny threw 12 less yards than Rudolph, and 2 less TDs. That being said, 1 of Masons TDs was completely GP. If you look at the stats, they played pretty equal(besides the one insane catch where GP barely got his feet in, which should have been a better ball) Pretty sure Mason only had 3 completions over 10 air yards, with multiple missed deep balls that Kenny would have been crucified for.
I agree 100 % with the original post. Kenny has has numerous chances and Mason has been relegated to the scout team. I'm tired of hearing about Matt Canada when Kenny missed multiple open receivers every game. I don't care who the OC is if you can't hit an open receiver.
Rudolph had most of his yards gained by 5 minutes into the 2nd half. Lol he could of had a 400+ yard game if they kept their foot on the gas. You should watch the game before saying their games were similar.
Kenny makes the O line look even worse than they may be, they have to hold blocks longer than normal because he is indecisive and hold the ball to long.It’s obvious Mason’s quick read and release gives them energy and confidence!
He constantly spins out of the pocket instead of stepping up most of the time stepping right into the defense. Piss poor pocket presence. Plus the rest of the team seemed like they trusted Mason more. He actually threw the ball downfield for more than ten yards instead of dumping the ball off. Kenny needs twelve yards for a first down and he throws a three yard pass. Never hitting the guy in stride.
Pickett has had 24 starts to get a performance like that. Mason came in after being 3rd string and gave us the best QB performance since Big Ben. I say let Mason start and see if it was a fluke. We owe it to the next season to really see what we got.
I’d like to Rudolph truly get a chance. He played well for us when Ben was hurt and just came off one hell of a game. If Kenny’s good enough they should dress him and have his as qb2 Incase things don’t go Rudolph’s way
What worries me about Kenny is that he looked mediocre even when Canada's playcalling DIDN'T suck as bad as it usually did. I've seen him miss or just flat-out not even see wide open receivers far too many times to chalk it all down to Canada being a peewee coordinator with an NFL job. He also shows zero chill in the pocket, and gets happy feet after just a second of scanning the field and not finding someone open. I want this kid to succeed. I want him to become the face of the franchise, because he seems like a swell guy. I'm just worried Pickett's struggles may have more to do with him simply not being a good QB, rather than being strictly a coaching issue.
Nobody can sit here and evaluate Kenny Pickett post canada bc he hasn’t even played other than the one game really but truthfully I feel more confident in Rudolph
As a starter Rudolph averages 21 points as the QB. That’s possibly 2 extra wins this year if he started and instead of talking about maybe missing the playoffs you’re possibly fighting for the 1 seed.
After the bruised rib, Kenny has been playing scared most of the time. Yeah he had that one game but he’s inconsistent and can’t throw easy balls. We of Pittsburgh had enough, especially after Mitch.. so much to the point that Rudolph looks like Ben in our eyes (not sure if that’s a good thing yet)
The list. Tho Drew Bledsoe lost to Tom Brady Alex smith lost to Colin Kaepernick Alex smith lost to Patrick Mahomes Jimmy G and Trey lance lost to Brock purdy
@@ernie2068Alex smith didn’t lose his job to Mahomes because of injury. He lost his job to Mahomes due to the ability of Mahomes lol. Trent green lost his job with the rams due to injury back in 99
Mr. Pat McAfee, what would you do with the QB situation in Pittsburgh? I’d stay with Mason because he looked really good. Hit George Pickens for 4 completions for 195 yards and 2 scores (almost 49 yards a clip). And it opened up our running game.
I hope this just motivates him to become better and go above and beyond. He know anybody can take his spot regardless of injury. Mason wants to eat too
Tone says he would rather see Pickett play because he's a first round pick... Let's not forget that he was a HUGE reach and realistically he's a third round level of talent. Matter of fact if he was coming out in the upcoming draft he'd be lucky to go before the 6th round and if he'd gone undrafted it wouldn't surprise me. He's done nothing to earn the qb1 position, the front office had their minds made up pretty much from day one that he was going to be the man... Realistically he'd be a okay backup from what he's shown us, let's hope he makes some progress
He was from Pitt. Soon as Trubisky wasn’t getting it done, they put Kenny in. In hindsight, Mason should have started last year, but he definitely should have replace Kenny when he went down ... we saw what Mitch could do. People say, “its only one game,” but it should have been his 4th and 3rd start. Besides, if Kenny goes to Seattle, a tough place to play, and lays an egg, he’d be cooked.
Kenny has missed that exact throw to George 5 separate times this season while he was starting. Mason has half the career starts as Kenny and 3 times the nfl tenure. Give Kenny the full 4 weeks to recover.
The difference between Mason and Kenny? Mason stands. In. The. Pocket. Why is Kenny getting injured? Because he’s always bailing the pocket whether there is pressure or not. To me that’s Kenny’s biggest issue.
With offensive production being pretty consistently terrible even with Ben while under Matt Canada, it's kinda fair to basically write off those games and give him a fresh start and judgement. He wasnt being allowed to switch things up or stretch the field AT ALL and the moment Canada was gone he showed immediate improvement.
@@CheekyMenace a prime Ben would’ve made Canada look good. Good QB play will save an OC’s job, not the other way around. Regardless of what one may think of the offensive scheme, at the end of the day it comes down to can you hit open receivers. There were open receivers but Kenny couldn’t get them the ball.
@@dave3823Kenny is ass. Although Canada is gone they’re still using his playbook for what it’s worth. So how is mason thriving and Mitch and Kenny struggled with the same playbook? Did Canada tell Kenny to ignore wide open WRs and spin into sacks ? No. Stfu and YOU learn football
@@just_2swift No point in even having this debate when you don't understand or willfully ignore the difference in play calling and it's affect on the offense as a whole.
I will say this if they start Pickett we lose, which is awful to say because I wanted only two names to be called on draft day 2022. Willis or Pickett and we got Kenny. Starting Kenny though right now, Mitch on his contract year do NOT resign him. You start Rudolph which is ironic because I always thought he was trash for the last 3 years. Rudolph is the only quarterback on the team who's trying to win. I've been saying all year give Mason a shot what's the worst that can happen. If the Steelers start Pickett against Seattle playoff hopes are over. Period! Maybe in the offseason this lights a fire under Kenny to improve in every aspect of the game and you reevaluate for 2024!
I mean he played almost 30 games & he wasn't consistent at all. You don't get high praise over 1 game, when he does it consistently then it's a different story..
People have to understand Mason has been with us for 6 years. He’s been working watching and grinding for 6 years. If Kenny was an established player as far as proving consistently that he can get it done then he should be granted to come back and start BUT he is not established. Mason just balled out and did more than Kenny has ever done in ONE GAME. Maybe our QB has been with us this whole time steeler nation .. Sunday will be the test. GO STEELERS
If Kenny let’s go of his ego and looks at Mason’s story and at Mitch’s ... he could learn a lot about life, not just football. Comparing Mason to Ben is a heck of a lot different than comparing Mason to Kenny. Even Bradshaw had to fight for QB1.
@@PressureP2323 No need to wait for the offseason. It got interesting last week. From Major League, “We won one game. If we win another, that’s called a streak.” I want to see what happens in Seattle before thinking about the offseason.
You can't lose your job because of injury really? No one told Drew Bledsoe that when he got hurt and was replaced by some young kid. How did that work out for the Patriots?
Mason Rudolph Set franchise records for a QB in first career home start (9/30/19 vs Cincinnati) in completions (24), completion percentage (85.7), and QB rating (124.6) Registered five multi-TD passing games First quarterback in NFL history to register his first two career wins on Monday Night Football. Third quarterback since the 1970 NFL-AFL merger to record a passer rating of at least 81.4 and throw a TD in each of his first seven career starts. Fifth quarterback since the 1970 NFL-AFL merger to throw a TD in each of his first eight career games (Jay Cutler, Mike Glennon, Oliver Luck and Mark Rypien). Kenny Pickett doesn't have this on his NFL Resume. Sit down or stand up and cheer on your team.
@@jefferytokarsky1930 It's not so hard, they're the same build. 6'5" 230-240. Mason didn't get blessed with the same talent around him as Ben and still put up records.
Kenny had nearly 2 seasons to prove something, he should've come into this season looking like a pro and didnt look any better than his rookie yr.. id be getting rid of mitch, keeping mason at #1 and Pickett as #2.. even the few loses from mason was still more points than kenny put up..
Either Kenny or Mason is a far better choice than Mitch. Wasting 3 games on having Mitch just killed us. Kenny may have done well in a couple of those games, last time he played he was doing pretty good. But I think they should roll with Mason this next game just because it seems to be working.
I'm a Bears fan & I tried telling all Steelers fans Mitch is horrible so I'm glad you see it! He can't read the field, has happy feet, his accuracy is atrocious, he isn't a leader and he gets worse as his confidence drops! He will NEVER be a starting QB in the league & shouldn't even be a back up...
I love it when Pickit gets a year and a half of sorry performances that got the OC fired to finally get him benched while Mitch can't even get two games of a chance.
I thought that Mason had a good arm then and I think he has a good arm now. What sucks is that the Steelers cannot evaluate quarterbacks and that's why Mason went without a long enough sample size to determine his talents and that's why they sat well who knows why they sat him
That is a ridiculous comment. How many QB's have the Browns drafted since returning in '99, 26? Quarterbacks are a roll 0f the dice, a gamble. Sure they can look great in college, run a pro offense, pass for 42 touchdowns in a season, and some succeed and others don't for whatever reason. They sure picked a good one in 04. Mason was drafted in the 3rd round as a backup. He was never drafted to take over for Ben when he retired. He was to be the next Landry Jones (Bens backup).. The only reason he got ANY STARTS, is because Ben went out for the 2019 season in week two. It didn't take long, five games and Rudy was benched for Duck Hodges. He cracks under pressure and throws picks.. The "Masonites" have brain fog and rose colored glasses. We will find out Sunday if Mason has it, because it is the hardest place to play in the NFL. The Steelers have won ONCE in Seattle, since 1976, when the came into existence..
@@just_2swift You may be right, but so far, he had one decent game in 5 years, vs a weak Bungles team. I think both are mediocre at best and Mitch is hot garbage. But to think Rudy is the QB to lead us to the promised land is silly. They have to draft another.. or maybe it is coaching.
Pickett in that 400 yard performance no touchdowns. 0 touchdowns in Pickett's last 3 starts. Trubisky 4 touchdowns in 2 games played, yes 3 interceptions but still actually put points on the board. Rudolph 2 touchdowns no interceptions. Pickett 0 touchdowns. Pickett put up the same number of touchdowns on the bench ad if he played.
He got injured missing an open throw to choose to get stuffed at the goal line and get injured. I bet Rudolph would have made the throw instead, which is why I would still go with him this week.
When you don't throw for 300 yards 99% of the time you need to be quiet, kenny didn't add anything to this trash offense, Rudolph at least gives our guys a chance to make a play and isn't scared when people pressure him, Kenny is terrible with any sort of pressure.
3:18 "Has his best game." Wow - people just forgetting they had 3 points at half time. You really want to brag that 278 yards with no touchdown thrown as your best game? Go for it.
81.4 QBR Kenny's 13 touchdowns for his career Joe flacco as 13 touchdowns just in the month of December Kenny's holding this team back he had his best game against the Bengals and didn't even throw a touchdown he has zero touchdowns in his last seven games played as someone that's a Steelers fan all my life that lives in Pittsburgh I could care less if I ever see Pickett on the field ever again.
No reason for Kenny to be upset at all. Backups from other teams were coming in doing a better job. Tired of the excuses for Kenny, he needs to earn the starting spot. Ps. Mich should be arrested for stealing money, what a bum!
Let's be honest though, that second answer from Kenny was just terrible. You're pretty much still a rookie, as far as number of games actually played. You should always be watching and learning. Hell even seasoned vets are watching and learning new things every game.
Well Kenny is not an established QB! He is still being evaluated! Is Kenny a Backup QB, starting QB, Franchise QB, or Elite QB? So far, its looking like a backup QB!
He’s had 25 chances, as that’s how many games he’s played so far to show he’s the guy and hasn’t been able to do so, he’s been below average in the majority of his starts so he has no right to pout or be pissed off about the situation him and Mitch have both had their fair share of chances and they both suck
For Tomlin to go with Mason long term would be tacitly admitting that he made a mistake not giving Mason a chance last year and thus wasting two years for the organization
Hate to say it but if chuck is taking Kenny over mason he don’t know anything about the qb position. Kenny’s gotten almost 2 full years of starts and hasn’t had a single game as good as masons only game in those 2 years.
@@knewt0 The kid is playing well, a lot better than the last time he was starting. If you're trying to get a rise out of me... meh. Tomlin sticks his finger up to see which way the wind is blowing before making decisions. Besides, I don't see Buffalo or the Jags losing so the season probably ends Saturday or Sunday.
Pittsburgh is also not happy with the QB situation.
AFC North is very happy about Pittsburgh’s QB situation
@@LeroyzkiSmithsonian not the Bengals
😂🤣🥲true
@@thomaszach43At least Burrow will be back by next season. Pittsburgh is stuck
@@LeroyzkiSmithsonian that's a whole year away, you don't know what will happen by then
We need this as steelers fans. Kenny needs to know his job isnt guaranteed, he doesn't get the privilege ben earned. Mason has been so humble his entire tenure on the team, and deserves his chance to lead. We want Kenny pissed, we want him to play out of spite. We want mason to try and take his job too. Tomlin used to say 2 dawgs 1 bone. Who wants it more?
Lamar!!!!
@@thefrase7884 should’ve have got him
Instead of edmunds
@@SavoMorrisRavens weren't willing to trade him unless the package was ridiculous, they wanted a top 5 pick last year plus atleast 4 more first, and even if the Steelers had the assets, the Ravens weren't gonna trade him to a division rival and have to play him twice a year, Same reason Favre had to go to the Jets before the Vikings because the Packers didn't want to play him twice
We need a new QB.
@@bradybeijes3232he said that because we could of drafted Lamar in the first Round but took Edmunds instead
Matt Canada wasn't the reason for Pickett throwing behind receivers, or not seeing wide open receivers, or staring down his #1 read, or spinning into sacks in a clean pocket. Mason should finish the season.
All true.
Bingo.
🎯 hell the play he got hurt on was due to pocket panic. Watch the All 22 and it clearly shows his first read wasn’t there but CA III was wide open to his left and Najee was wide open to his right and both were walk-in TD’s. But he panicked and ran through the pocket and got creamed. His injury was self induced due to panicking instead of reading his options.
The coach is always right and as long as these dumbass workers listen and do their job we will win Super Bowls huh!!?!!???
You have fans believing that a failed OC like Sullivan is an upgrade. I swear, most of SteelersNation does not know what goes on in the rest of the NFL. If only they knew that Sullivan’s Giants offense once averaged 15 ppg for an entire season.
Don't forget kenny basically put up 0 points in an entire half against the cardinals
That O-line very clearly likes playing in front of Rudolph more than Kenny. The whole team loves mason. It’s an easy choice
Kenny Pickett is a better story than he is a quarterback. That doesn't mean he's permanently trash. It just means the dude has more development / progress needed.
Right now hes trash frankly thats all hes ever gonna be unless he makes a giant leap which would suprise me I mean all of a sudden hes gonna be calm in the pocket and be calm enough to go through his reads and start scoring consistent tds, thats what the job requires I think not. I think it would be better for him and us if he retired because of the concussions he should'nt ruin the rest of his life.
it took Mason this long, so yeah, I agree.
They drafted him as nfl ready now qb. That was his only upside out of the draft. If we have to wait and waste 2 years to develop a qb with bad habits/mechanics with very low ceiling, that’s gonna piss people off
@@Gungadin0112 it took Kenny until his 4th, 5th year to be good in college. I think he’ll get there but he needed to be backing up someone
@@WhatIsTime_ They only put him in because Trubisky wasn’t getting it done. If Mitch had be decent, he’d have sat all year. Kenny looked good in 4th quarter drives year, but he hasn’t improved. Canada was part of the problem, and the OL is part, but it seems Kenny has a confidence/leadership problem. The leadership issue is big because the offense is young and don’t have veteran leaders like Pouncey, DeCastro, Heath, or Ben. I think Mason is the right guy for now and Kenny can learn a lot if he is willing and gets his ego out of the way.
Feed the hot hand. Kenny is coming off an injury. Give Rudolph the next game and see how it goes. Show not only the team what he can do but potentially other teams if they decide to part ways
Also don't feed the hand that sucks, so please don't let Kenny have the football anymore. Rudolph literally is a better QB.
Kenny wasn’t good before injury!! 3rd and goal multiple games and the ball is not thrown to the wide open receiver in the end zone!! 30-6 loss vs Texans!! Kenny one read Pickett did the same thing on the play he injured himself on!! Kenny one read Pickett is about the worst QB in the national football league when it comes to finding the open receiver!! That’s the number 1 thing you want your quarterback to do!! Steelers had it backwards!!
Ben Roethlisberger was about as helpful and encouraging to Mason Rudolph as Brett Favre was to Aaron Rodgers. Neither Ben nor Brett had an ounce of concern for their QB2.
It's not the job of the QB1 to train their replacements. It's the coach's job
@@Steelmade58when you are getting paid tens of millions of dollars a year, then why the hell shouldn’t you do what your employer tells you to do?
According to Roethlisberger, Rudolph didn't want his input.
According to Roethlisberger, Rudolph didn't want his input.
@@Steelmade58and we don't have a coach.
I think a little bit of competition for his spot is exactly what Kenny Pickett needs
Who is a higher draft pick Mitch or Mason? Because if him competing against Mitch who was supposed to be the starter on the team he came from wasn't enough how would it be more competition for Mason who was underneath Big Ben in trained under him to light a fire I don't get it. Might as well run with the hot hand with Mason, and then I think sorted out in the offseason lol doing it like this is crazy it's not going to help in my opinion but we shall see
if Pickett is done learning then he's at his peak apparently, which isn't very good.
Rudolph looked better in his one start than Kenny did in any game he’s played. Kenny has potential but his pocket presence is still awful, needs time to develop.
Kenny played great in his first game without Canada then got hurt, not hating on mason he did great but Kenny hasn’t gotten a chance lol
Really hoping they make a move for Kirk Cousins this off season.
@@ItsJuJu26 yeah but he got hurt halfway threw the next game and didnt do much befor getting hurt to a 2 and 10 team
For all the flaws over the years, Rudolph did hang in the pocket and had time to hit the longer developing passes, for sure.
Two more o lineman and an elite coordinator and I think he will be fine
I can respect Kenny's desire to play and not being happy with riding the bench but Mason shows more poise on the field and at the podium. I'm not surprised Mason is the starter and I wouldn't be upset if he stays QB1 if he balls out Sunday.
shitsburgh sucks lmao. Go Browns
Mason played one game dude. Let’s wait and see. Kenny did just as well against cincy.
@@jtfikeno he didn’t dude tf are you smoking😭 he had 278 with 0 TD’s. Lenny consistently throws between 100-200 yards, which is subpar, and he throws NO touchdowns. Ever.
@@jtfikerudolph may have only thrown for like 10 more yards, but he threw for a third of the TD’s Kenny threw in the ENTIRE SEASON. In ONE game.
@@jtfike that's the the "if he balls out Sunday" exists
Kenny has had 10 times as many chances as Rudolph with zero results. Time for Rudolph to get a real shot at the starting job.
Kenny has had the same amount of chances as Rudolph. They both had one game without Matt Canada against the Bengals. Kenny threw 12 less yards than Rudolph, and 2 less TDs. That being said, 1 of Masons TDs was completely GP. If you look at the stats, they played pretty equal(besides the one insane catch where GP barely got his feet in, which should have been a better ball) Pretty sure Mason only had 3 completions over 10 air yards, with multiple missed deep balls that Kenny would have been crucified for.
@@Monkey-Man21 LoL 😂 wrong. Nothing You said is correct 😂.
Kenny was working under Matt Canada’s offense. He deserves another shot in a new offense, esp given that he’s still a young QB.
I agree 100 % with the original post. Kenny has has numerous chances and Mason has been relegated to the scout team. I'm tired of hearing about Matt Canada when Kenny missed multiple open receivers every game. I don't care who the OC is if you can't hit an open receiver.
Rudolph had most of his yards gained by 5 minutes into the 2nd half. Lol he could of had a 400+ yard game if they kept their foot on the gas. You should watch the game before saying their games were similar.
That 400 yards of offense game was because of jaylen warren, not Kenny. Let’s not frame it like it was
Jaylen and naj combined for half of it
Kenny threw for 278 yards
Kenny looks like a career backup guy and i only say that due to his age and low ceiling. We won in spite of him all season.
@@kjjr9550 This is Mason's team now
@@just_2swift 50/50 on him getting a crazy offer in free agency and leaving. Even if we draft a guy i hope he comes back.
How did they not see this coming ? He was never worth a 1st round pick
Blind management
They had a first round grade on Mason too, for what it’s worth.
That was the worst QB draft class in over a decade
@@moulikranka1827at least Mason has 1 round physical tools. Kenny has arguably the weakest arm in the league.
Kenny makes the O line look even worse than they may be, they have to hold blocks longer than normal because he is indecisive and hold the ball to long.It’s obvious Mason’s quick read and release gives them energy and confidence!
He constantly spins out of the pocket instead of stepping up most of the time stepping right into the defense. Piss poor pocket presence. Plus the rest of the team seemed like they trusted Mason more. He actually threw the ball downfield for more than ten yards instead of dumping the ball off. Kenny needs twelve yards for a first down and he throws a three yard pass. Never hitting the guy in stride.
@@billslonaker9000Mason also gave Pickens his two best games in his entire career in the last two weeks. Mason made him like like prime Randy Moss.
It’s Mason Ruldoph all day. Pickett has had enough chances. The stats Rudolph put up in 1 game Pickett hasn’t put up in 2 yrs in a game.
I also remember Ben was pissed when the Steelers drafted Mason
It would be okay to complain if he wasn’t a part of the problem…that boy is assss
Facts
Pickett has had 24 starts to get a performance like that. Mason came in after being 3rd string and gave us the best QB performance since Big Ben. I say let Mason start and see if it was a fluke. We owe it to the next season to really see what we got.
Bears Fans: “We’d apologize for Mitch Trubisky but we want to hear an apology for Chase Claypool first” 😅
Bears had it worse Mitch only cost Steelers 2 games.Claypool trade cost Bears Joey Porter.
I’d like to Rudolph truly get a chance. He played well for us when Ben was hurt and just came off one hell of a game. If Kenny’s good enough they should dress him and have his as qb2 Incase things don’t go Rudolph’s way
On the field the past two seasons Kenny has been better than Mitch but out played by almost every opponent, Mason take your spot
We're not concerned about feelings. Kenny needs acknowledge that he's injured & that he needs to play better & support the team any way he can.
Yeah he looked like a pouty baby in the press conference with his one word “no” answer
Hes to much of a ego maniac and immature as hell
@@CSwivel Yeah, he showed more emotion right there than he does when he goes three-n-out!!
Ruldolph as qb was the only game that didn't feel like I was watching my own root canal.
What worries me about Kenny is that he looked mediocre even when Canada's playcalling DIDN'T suck as bad as it usually did. I've seen him miss or just flat-out not even see wide open receivers far too many times to chalk it all down to Canada being a peewee coordinator with an NFL job. He also shows zero chill in the pocket, and gets happy feet after just a second of scanning the field and not finding someone open. I want this kid to succeed. I want him to become the face of the franchise, because he seems like a swell guy. I'm just worried Pickett's struggles may have more to do with him simply not being a good QB, rather than being strictly a coaching issue.
Nobody can sit here and evaluate Kenny Pickett post canada bc he hasn’t even played other than the one game really but truthfully I feel more confident in Rudolph
Pickett played horrible. Can’t blame Canada for how bad he has looked every game.
Pickett looked bad without Canada too
I guess it was Canada fault for him getting hurt huh
As a starter Rudolph averages 21 points as the QB. That’s possibly 2 extra wins this year if he started and instead of talking about maybe missing the playoffs you’re possibly fighting for the 1 seed.
No not even close to 21 points as a starter.
He has never even had 3 TDs in one game that I recall.
This must be Rudolph’s agent or girlfriend
And Drug dealer apparently.
@@jrice1091 its the whole offense as a whole lol. Kenny doesn’t average 2 touchdowns but the offense averaged 16 with him as a starter
@@carlbigsbee1468 or I do research and actually care who the Steelers put at QB
And Pittsburgh has not been happy with Kenny’s play this year
Mason is evolving, Mitch has evolved, Kenny hasn't even begun to evolve.
Start Mason if he plays bad then put Kenny in.
If Kenny played better he wouldn’t be in this situation…
Both Pickett and Rudolph had great games against the Bengals. I think that says more about the Bengals.
Rudolph was actually better, he had two touchdowns
Yep
@@devilsrage-vt4hpGeorge Pickens was better
Not even close!! Mason balled out
kenny couldn’t score though
Coach P advocating for jumping over the podium and knocking out a female reporter had me rolling😂😂😂
Well Kenny pretty much acknowledged his ceiling. And it’s back up quality.
And we're not happy with Pickett.
The future franchise QB for the Steelers is in High School still.
and the bears isnt even born
@@bl3320😂😂😂
😂😂😂
After the bruised rib, Kenny has been playing scared most of the time. Yeah he had that one game but he’s inconsistent and can’t throw easy balls. We of Pittsburgh had enough, especially after Mitch.. so much to the point that Rudolph looks like Ben in our eyes (not sure if that’s a good thing yet)
Wow, Kenny having his Zach Wilson moment 😂.
Flacco lost his job to injury in 2018.
Drew Bledsoe and Tommy Maddox etc
The list. Tho
Drew Bledsoe lost to Tom Brady
Alex smith lost to Colin Kaepernick
Alex smith lost to Patrick Mahomes
Jimmy G and Trey lance lost to Brock purdy
Which is ironic because now he might have a new job because of injury lol
@@ernie2068Alex smith didn’t lose his job to Mahomes because of injury. He lost his job to Mahomes due to the ability of Mahomes lol. Trent green lost his job with the rams due to injury back in 99
@@josephpinckneyiv718Maddox sucked big time. Stewart was way better than Tommy. He was not NFL material.
Make sure you guys play the clip from later on in that interview where he praised Mason and the offense for what they were able to do
Mr. Pat McAfee, what would you do with the QB situation in Pittsburgh? I’d stay with Mason because he looked really good. Hit George Pickens for 4 completions for 195 yards and 2 scores (almost 49 yards a clip). And it opened up our running game.
Bro said he’s knocking a woman out 😂 ayooo
IF Kenny gets benched for Rudolph it won't be because of injury it will be because his previous play did not inspire confidence moving forward.
I hope this just motivates him to become better and go above and beyond. He know anybody can take his spot regardless of injury. Mason wants to eat too
Pickett is what his draft profile said the November before the draft: Backup level QB with no upside
Tone says he would rather see Pickett play because he's a first round pick... Let's not forget that he was a HUGE reach and realistically he's a third round level of talent. Matter of fact if he was coming out in the upcoming draft he'd be lucky to go before the 6th round and if he'd gone undrafted it wouldn't surprise me.
He's done nothing to earn the qb1 position, the front office had their minds made up pretty much from day one that he was going to be the man... Realistically he'd be a okay backup from what he's shown us, let's hope he makes some progress
He was from Pitt. Soon as Trubisky wasn’t getting it done, they put Kenny in. In hindsight, Mason should have started last year, but he definitely should have replace Kenny when he went down ... we saw what Mitch could do. People say, “its only one game,” but it should have been his 4th and 3rd start. Besides, if Kenny goes to Seattle, a tough place to play, and lays an egg, he’d be cooked.
lol he was seen as a first rounder but okay buddy
Kenny has missed that exact throw to George 5 separate times this season while he was starting. Mason has half the career starts as Kenny and 3 times the nfl tenure. Give Kenny the full 4 weeks to recover.
Dont tell Tryod Taylor you cant lose youre job due to injury. It happens to him every time
Small hands spins out of clean pockets into tackles. He misses wife open guys
The difference between Mason and Kenny? Mason stands. In. The. Pocket. Why is Kenny getting injured? Because he’s always bailing the pocket whether there is pressure or not. To me that’s Kenny’s biggest issue.
Chuck ignoring Kenny’s first 25-26 games and how awful he has been shows why he’s not coaching anymore… 😂 with all due respect
With offensive production being pretty consistently terrible even with Ben while under Matt Canada, it's kinda fair to basically write off those games and give him a fresh start and judgement. He wasnt being allowed to switch things up or stretch the field AT ALL and the moment Canada was gone he showed immediate improvement.
@@CheekyMenace a prime Ben would’ve made Canada look good. Good QB play will save an OC’s job, not the other way around. Regardless of what one may think of the offensive scheme, at the end of the day it comes down to can you hit open receivers. There were open receivers but Kenny couldn’t get them the ball.
@@03Man11Canada is gone and Kenny starts dropping dimes to Muth down the middle that aren’t his first reads. Shut up and learn the game.
@@dave3823Kenny is ass. Although Canada is gone they’re still using his playbook for what it’s worth. So how is mason thriving and Mitch and Kenny struggled with the same playbook? Did Canada tell Kenny to ignore wide open WRs and spin into sacks ? No. Stfu and YOU learn football
@@just_2swift No point in even having this debate when you don't understand or willfully ignore the difference in play calling and it's affect on the offense as a whole.
I will say this if they start Pickett we lose, which is awful to say because I wanted only two names to be called on draft day 2022. Willis or Pickett and we got Kenny. Starting Kenny though right now, Mitch on his contract year do NOT resign him. You start Rudolph which is ironic because I always thought he was trash for the last 3 years. Rudolph is the only quarterback on the team who's trying to win. I've been saying all year give Mason a shot what's the worst that can happen. If the Steelers start Pickett against Seattle playoff hopes are over. Period! Maybe in the offseason this lights a fire under Kenny to improve in every aspect of the game and you reevaluate for 2024!
It’s funny when players have egos even tho they’ve been playing consistently mediocre their entire career 😂
What did Mason Rudolph ever do to Chuck Pagano? Mason stays getting disrespected for no reason.
To be fair, I see signs of Alzheimer’s in Chuck, so I wouldn’t take what he says too serious.
I mean he played almost 30 games & he wasn't consistent at all. You don't get high praise over 1 game, when he does it consistently then it's a different story..
He was pissed at Ben 2 weeks ago. He has issues with Pittsburgh. Maybe because they beat his behind in Indy all the time.
@@Mandy_3919 career games. 11 starts
@@mfwags226-4-1 as a starter and no one even remembers that he is why the Steelers tied the lions
People have to understand Mason has been with us for 6 years. He’s been working watching and grinding for 6 years. If Kenny was an established player as far as proving consistently that he can get it done then he should be granted to come back and start BUT he is not established. Mason just balled out and did more than Kenny has ever done in ONE GAME. Maybe our QB has been with us this whole time steeler nation .. Sunday will be the test. GO STEELERS
If Kenny let’s go of his ego and looks at Mason’s story and at Mitch’s ... he could learn a lot about life, not just football. Comparing Mason to Ben is a heck of a lot different than comparing Mason to Kenny. Even Bradshaw had to fight for QB1.
@@jefferytokarsky1930 agreed . This off-season will be interesting
@@PressureP2323 No need to wait for the offseason. It got interesting last week. From Major League, “We won one game. If we win another, that’s called a streak.” I want to see what happens in Seattle before thinking about the offseason.
Rudolph looked GREAT against the Seahawks too, seems pretty apparent to me that he should be the starter for the rest of the season.
If you’re a QB and you’re not happy about the QB situation on your team what does that say about you?
Facts
You can't lose your job because of injury really?
No one told Drew Bledsoe that when he got hurt and was replaced by some young kid.
How did that work out for the Patriots?
No I am not comparing Mason Rudolph to the G.O.A.T.
Mason Rudolph
Set franchise records for a QB in first career home start (9/30/19 vs Cincinnati) in completions (24), completion percentage (85.7), and QB rating (124.6)
Registered five multi-TD passing games
First quarterback in NFL history to register his first two career wins on Monday Night Football.
Third quarterback since the 1970 NFL-AFL merger to record a passer rating of at least 81.4 and throw a TD in each of his first seven career starts.
Fifth quarterback since the 1970 NFL-AFL merger to throw a TD in each of his first eight career games (Jay Cutler, Mike Glennon, Oliver Luck and Mark Rypien).
Kenny Pickett doesn't have this on his NFL Resume.
Sit down or stand up and cheer on your team.
Comparing Mason to Mitch and Pickett is different than comparing him to Ben.
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It's not so hard, they're the same build. 6'5" 230-240.
Mason didn't get blessed with the same talent around him as Ben and still put up records.
Kenny had nearly 2 seasons to prove something, he should've come into this season looking like a pro and didnt look any better than his rookie yr.. id be getting rid of mitch, keeping mason at #1 and Pickett as #2.. even the few loses from mason was still more points than kenny put up..
I think it’s just the glimmer of hope that makes the fans want Mason. If Kenny from the preseason had shown up at all it would be a different story.
Yeah if get outta here.
Yeah spicket go play a bunch of scrubs like you did in pre season
Just tell Kenny it’s the 4 quarter
Either Kenny or Mason is a far better choice than Mitch. Wasting 3 games on having Mitch just killed us. Kenny may have done well in a couple of those games, last time he played he was doing pretty good. But I think they should roll with Mason this next game just because it seems to be working.
Mitch is a legend what ya talking bout
I'm a Bears fan & I tried telling all Steelers fans Mitch is horrible so I'm glad you see it! He can't read the field, has happy feet, his accuracy is atrocious, he isn't a leader and he gets worse as his confidence drops! He will NEVER be a starting QB in the league & shouldn't even be a back up...
@@Mandy_39 Ye he's atrocious lol
So Kenny is mad that he has completely under delivered since he was given the starting job?
Big Vince was right on Hard Knocks when he said, "Gotta compete"
chuck doesnt believe in rudolph. Well hes no longer an HC, so there is that
He 100% didn’t watch a single snap from that game😂
Chuck said, “It’s only one game,” but it should have been Mason’s 4th and 3rd start.
If we want to have the best chance to win then put Rudolph in
I love it when Pickit gets a year and a half of sorry performances that got the OC fired to finally get him benched while Mitch can't even get two games of a chance.
I thought that Mason had a good arm then and I think he has a good arm now. What sucks is that the Steelers cannot evaluate quarterbacks and that's why Mason went without a long enough sample size to determine his talents and that's why they sat well who knows why they sat him
That is a ridiculous comment. How many QB's have the Browns drafted since returning in '99, 26? Quarterbacks are a roll 0f the dice, a gamble. Sure they can look great in college, run a pro offense, pass for 42 touchdowns in a season, and some succeed and others don't for whatever reason. They sure picked a good one in 04. Mason was drafted in the 3rd round as a backup. He was never drafted to take over for Ben when he retired. He was to be the next Landry Jones (Bens backup).. The only reason he got ANY STARTS, is because Ben went out for the 2019 season in week two. It didn't take long, five games and Rudy was benched for Duck Hodges. He cracks under pressure and throws picks.. The "Masonites" have brain fog and rose colored glasses. We will find out Sunday if Mason has it, because it is the hardest place to play in the NFL. The Steelers have won ONCE in Seattle, since 1976, when the came into existence..
@@misterwirez7731Mason is better than KP and everyone knows it.
@@just_2swift You may be right, but so far, he had one decent game in 5 years, vs a weak Bungles team. I think both are mediocre at best and Mitch is hot garbage. But to think Rudy is the QB to lead us to the promised land is silly. They have to draft another.. or maybe it is coaching.
@@misterwirez7731 2 games now brother!
@@just_2swift Yeah they looked good. Maybe Rudy has got something.
Rudolph for starter in 24
“You can’t loose your job due to injury”
Drew Bledsoe: I beg your pardon, sir?
Trey Lance lost his job, too.
Just a brutal business.
I was at the Steelers vs Seahawks game and there was about 50% Steelers looked like a Steelers stadium mason dominated
Mason killed it
"It," was the 30th ranked defense of the Bungles.
@@Atheos-1 that doesn't negate his great play.
@@michaeljohnston272 No, it doesn't negate it, but it should put it into proper perspective?
First time in 2 decades that as a Bills fan, I'm not jealous of the Steelers situation at QB.
Pickett in that 400 yard performance no touchdowns. 0 touchdowns in Pickett's last 3 starts. Trubisky 4 touchdowns in 2 games played, yes 3 interceptions but still actually put points on the board. Rudolph 2 touchdowns no interceptions. Pickett 0 touchdowns. Pickett put up the same number of touchdowns on the bench ad if he played.
He got injured missing an open throw to choose to get stuffed at the goal line and get injured. I bet Rudolph would have made the throw instead, which is why I would still go with him this week.
The one problem with the Steelers is obviously Tomlin
Tomlin needs a fresh start somewhere else
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I remember when Trubisky was starter and fans were chanting “Picket” and now Picket hears the fans chanting “Rudolf” 🤣😂🤣
When you don't throw for 300 yards 99% of the time you need to be quiet, kenny didn't add anything to this trash offense, Rudolph at least gives our guys a chance to make a play and isn't scared when people pressure him, Kenny is terrible with any sort of pressure.
Don't forget Kenny sucked in the game he got hurt. The fact that Mason was able to see his check down unlike Kenny proves Mason is the right call.
kenny best game is a 16 to 10 win with no td should say how good he is
A TD to Dionte that was incorrectly ruled a drop.
I still dont think adding a td make it any better but yeah it should have been a td
Yeah I saw that it was a td but our great coach did not challenge it.@@Atheos-1
@@Gungadin0112 Didn't they hire a guy to be in the booth to advise Tomlin on challenges, like 7 years ago?
"Chuck does not believe in Mason Rudolph" 😂
3:18 "Has his best game."
Wow - people just forgetting they had 3 points at half time. You really want to brag that 278 yards with no touchdown thrown as your best game?
Go for it.
81.4 QBR Kenny's 13 touchdowns for his career Joe flacco as 13 touchdowns just in the month of December Kenny's holding this team back he had his best game against the Bengals and didn't even throw a touchdown he has zero touchdowns in his last seven games played as someone that's a Steelers fan all my life that lives in Pittsburgh I could care less if I ever see Pickett on the field ever again.
Mason was incredible…..he’s the hot hand.
If KP doesn't like the situation, maybe he should practice harder and win his job back.
It doesn't matter who the QB is, they will just be a .500 team until they change the coaching staff.
Then we are stuck cause i dont think the owner is making a change
You can't lose your spot to an injury? Exhibit A: Wally Pipp.
Mason needs more games to see if he's improved, always thought he was gonna be good
No reason for Kenny to be upset at all. Backups from other teams were coming in doing a better job. Tired of the excuses for Kenny, he needs to earn the starting spot. Ps. Mich should be arrested for stealing money, what a bum!
He's gonna hate being Russ' backup next year
Kenny’s FINE, he’ll be ready. He’s got breathing room unlike when we had Canada.
Baker Mayfield practically lost his job because of injury
Let's be honest though, that second answer from Kenny was just terrible. You're pretty much still a rookie, as far as number of games actually played. You should always be watching and learning. Hell even seasoned vets are watching and learning new things every game.
Well Kenny is not an established QB! He is still being evaluated! Is Kenny a Backup QB, starting QB, Franchise QB, or Elite QB? So far, its looking like a backup QB!
Pickett and Harris are both backups
He’s had 25 chances, as that’s how many games he’s played so far to show he’s the guy and hasn’t been able to do so, he’s been below average in the majority of his starts so he has no right to pout or be pissed off about the situation him and Mitch have both had their fair share of chances and they both suck
For Tomlin to go with Mason long term would be tacitly admitting that he made a mistake not giving Mason a chance last year and thus wasting two years for the organization
Hate to say it but if chuck is taking Kenny over mason he don’t know anything about the qb position. Kenny’s gotten almost 2 full years of starts and hasn’t had a single game as good as masons only game in those 2 years.
and you do? Ok bubba.
@@misterwirez7731 any update on how you’re feeling ? Masons starting next week 😏
@@knewt0 The kid is playing well, a lot better than the last time he was starting. If you're trying to get a rise out of me... meh. Tomlin sticks his finger up to see which way the wind is blowing before making decisions. Besides, I don't see Buffalo or the Jags losing so the season probably ends Saturday or Sunday.
Maybe Pitt-ket should play better than 315 before he pouts......
This season under Canada for Pickett - 6 TD thrown.
After Canada fired and Pickett's best game? 0 TD thrown.
Just saying
As far as I'm concerned, Mason earned this start and if he has a repeat performance than he should continue as the starter