Heated exchange between Ms Grace Fu and Asst Prof Jamus Lim over Carbon Tax pricing
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- A heated exchange took place between Minister Grace Fu and Asst Prof Jamus Lim in the passing of the Carbon Pricing (Amendment) Bill on Tuesday (8 Nov) in Parliament as Ms Fu confronted Asst Prof Lim over the proposals by Workers' Party MPs.
Ms Fu asked, "Professor Lim started his speech earlier saying that, you know, we have the theory. Right, but we need to get the implementation right. So I like to maybe ask him for his suggestion of how the government should be positioning the carbon tax in his way. What will be your target is hundred dollars if it's long run, which year is it? Is it 2030 still?"
Ms Fu subsequently challenged Asst Prof Lim, "So can you please try to tell me if you are the Minister of Sustainability and Environment, how would you glide to this number? How would you look glide?"
At one point during the heated exchange, Ms Fu just stood at the podium to throw questions at Asst Prof Lim. Leader of Opposition had to stand up to highlight the point of order where one has to sit down while the other is answering.
Props to Pritam for pointing out Grace's inappropriate decorum while the Speaker twiddled his thumbs
Shocked that this can happen, when the rest of the country is largely law abiding and respectful of procedures
@@raymasraymas 🤣
@Ferry Budiman Hahah! Love the sarcasm. Brilliant
He's busy looking at another woman instead of focusing on the speech.
Wah Speaker of Parliament so fast to stop Jamus from using weight loss analogy but forget to tell Ah Grace to sit down when its her turn...
the biasness is so obvious yet he always state he is unbiased. Selective hearing and biasness is the reason why our policies are not improving, none of the parties are listening to one another as demonstrated by grace and jamus in this video
The protocols don't apply to The Immortals.
@@93hothead
Jamus asked question but she said something else. So Jamus supposed to back down and just listen to her?
@@windydragon6522 was talking about the moderator lol
All these is obvious since day 1 leh. Now then u know ? PAP supporter from day 1 brudder.
Why can’t they just be objective and focus on the end result for the good of Singapore? Is it wrong to even consider alternative views and cooperate if necessary? Grace don’t have to put down different views just because it is coming from an opposition MP. Their loyalty first and foremost should be to Singapore and Singaporeans, not to their party. And I am saying this to both sides of the political divide.
the problem with pap is the pride that have inflated in their heads. They refuse to listen to opinions because whatever they say have to be right lmao
People come up with a plan, then Jamus just spend one minute and tweak a little, my plan you see is better.
Regressive system .....gov
That is the problem with the culture of the governing party. Party whip.
@@BeachBoi1000 you pap dog?
I am absolutely shocked that basic parliamentary procedure, of one person standing at a time, can be ignored when you’re in power. It’s the Speakers responsibility to ensure such proceedings rather than allow members to get away with it.
🤷♂️
Double standards ...
Level playing field .?????
Pap self entitlement..!!!!
The speaker is PAP own people. So double standard.
@A C can't blame speaker is PAP own people.
She has to be more polite to a question from a representative of the public. She is simply arrogant 🤬
Actually it is highly-paid Prof Jamus who is turning in shoddy work. He forgot that corporations need a fixed cost over several business cycles to measure effectiveness. SG Opposition is not that great at solving problems, hor.
@@scbchong6964 k
arrogant pap standard
Terrible grace
The tone and attitude of Grace Fu is downright disgusting. The laughter from the Ruling party in the Cabinet is equally bad. I think all debate aside, having a civil and non-condescending response from ANYONE is the most basic of stuff.
Her ego can't be challenged lol
How one carries… speaks a lot …. Disgusted and disgraceful
Disgraceful already lost it..former leader of house forgetting basic parliamentary rules of debate already show it..
Where is the speaker of the house....sleeping or plain bias.
@@acheeykvery kelong even with VAR.
Some PAP ministers just cant think properly, Stubborn her argument seems lame
I reckon she had mistaken/ don’t understand the question which was put forth to her by the opposition party.
dont understand the question * ? Thats y one name with just Ms n other is Prof...😉
Different intellectual levels. Nothing surprising.
Send her to get a PhD before debate. She did not understand the question.
too shallow to understand a professor!
Actually it is highly-paid Prof Jamus who is turning in shoddy work. Would you hire a worker who point finger, blame you, make excuses and yet cannot deliver better?
Grace fu can't seem to understand the meaning of adapting to the economy. So once a policy is set in stone she seems to be too lazy to adapt to the world. Now we can see how PAP operate and their narrow view of the world.
Simple job Get a figure according to the likes of ???? .
Then mission accomplished.
Get my million dollars salary n shake leg until next election.
Highly-paid Prof Jamus can only come up with wider band instead of something better? And he forgot corporate planners need fixed cost for a couple of business cycles to gauge progress. Blind Opposition cult supporters give too much credit for such mediocre performance.
@@scbchong6964 bruh the government has so much data to infer what is happening. If it is a company auditing themselves yes you would need more data to make an inference of your situation. But the government has information across all businesses and industries. Yet they can still say they need more data? Didn't they already learn this with their masters degree or PhD?
@@93hothead gov is not transparent when oppo asked for access of data lol.
No level playing field .
Please play fair for citizens sake.
Grace fu is a million dollars minister with all resources available .
Come on comment fairly.
@@acheeyk which is sad honestly, countries such as sweden and US openly disclosed this data for students to learn and also other government figures to use without fear.
if Singapore is hiding data then there is something fishy going on
With the likes of Grace Fu in charge, i fear for the future of this country. Government used to be respectable. More reason to vote opposition in the next election.
Opposition needs more votes. Everytime a law is passed from opposition, even if it is really good, will fail. But even the worst pap policy can be passed in parliament
@@bruhbro1181 Believe me....I dont think it was the first time
They just lectured oppo did not give alternative solutions for GST hike, 3774 same sex issue ...????
Gov just a bunch of absent minded ......
how dare you criticise her.
you want her to beach slap you?
@@xijinpig7978 Haha! Don't even have to criticise to get her riled up..just explain solutions she can't understand - like upper and lower pricing bounds.
The sighing, the eye rolls, some people might feel she is condescending.
Speaker no patience at all. Time to change next better player. 😆 🤣 😂
He thinks his job is to make the opposition feel like they are on unfriendly ground
@@AK8901 speaker is from PAP lol, what do u expect
Next time speaker and president should not be affiliated to any political party
Put independence speaker who is not from pap or WP or any political party
Getting more ungraceful and unruly these days. Literally like bang table to demand attention and stand up when the other speak.
Are the 4G the only option to bring Singapore forward?
Actually it is highly-paid Prof Jamus who is turning in shoddy work. Would you hire a worker who point finger, blame you, make excuses and yet cannot deliver better?
You won't find the ugly bang table scene in CNA. You have to watch from neutral platform.
@@ttkoh123 Actually shown on Mediacorp Channel 5 News at 9pm. The issue is highly paid Prof Jamus produce shoddy work. He is an adult, well-educated, elected MP hor. They are debating policy which will affect SG reputation as stable, progressive economy. Jamus is posturing to display his own vain intellect and offering different, but not better.
End of the day.... tiny island does not contribute anything but jus on paper to satisfy the world organisation, its tooooo small as compare to the whole world, i assume its jus another making$ fm govt.
$$$$$$ carbon tax from citizen + GST
Our Lawrence left it out carbon tax is on the citizens too.
I can clearly see myself getting replies like this from MPs like this person, if I go to the MP for help. We go to MP with problem and MP send us back home with the same problem telling us to settle it ourself with an empathetic tone.😅
MP may ask you to imagine yourself as an mp and solve problem yourself.
@@windydragon6522 😂😂😂
The main point is at 7.2 though. Ppl dont see the big picture and just dislike PAP just cause of the attitude and Jamus theory sounds great to be flexible but might not be feasible in real world terms. I find that he is more suitable to be a lecturer than a politician. I believe carbon tax is there to encourage people to use greener energy,there shld not be a variable like interest rate just cause of the economy situation. When there are economic downturn the government funding shld seperately come in when needed.
Hey, when you guys started loads of Solar power, did we get discount on energy price??
Goodness me the speaker should be fired!
We should encourage innovation to improve the “climate” problem. Carbon tax is to discourage consumption and not the best way to encourage improvement to the current “problem” in the long run but only increased cost of doing business which will be bear by consumers. Who benefits?
Agree. Already heard from news that Petrochemical MNCs withdrawing their operation from here.... are our policies enabling business competitiveness globally?
both parties make sense, but I do agree with Grace Fu's rationale that a signalling effect coming from this is integral to actually promoting a low-carbon economy. Short term pain for long term sustainability.
Bro business not helping the earth.
BUSINESS!!!!lol tax on us + GST!!
@@acheeyk Bro you safe all the money and when earth burns and flood, your money and big house can't safe you and your kids ass.
@@hawkenfox you all are paying for it.
25$p er ton per person translate to
200+ $ per year.
Why are we citizens paying so much for small insignificant small country
Like Singapore.
It will keep on increasing ?????
Business not to help the world.
It for the banks , financial institutions
....
It's the wrong timing as inflation on the way,then talk about carbon tax. So talk about earth,then give money to Sporean to support to less use on carbon not using tax as an excuse!
You do realise that pretty much every country in the paris agreement fell short of the expected goals right? It is not just us. It makes no sense to shoot ourselves in the foot during a time of economic uncertainty by pressuring businesses that are still reeling in from covid. Businesses are still trying to reformat themselves to a post covid world. If we pressure them hard in the name of "Looking good" to others. There won't be a country left to "look good" when the environment is all "saved". I say "saved" because the fact remains the majority of the countries are not willing to do their part.
The major countries like US, China, India are all still holding very nationalistic views. They are also the biggest contributors. They have no interest in slowing their economy down in the name of saving the planet. If they have no intentions to set vigorous goals to protect their economy. Then Singapore would be foolish to do the opposite. People are just going forget Singapore and go to countries with stronger economies.
If globally everyone agreed, alright lets take a hit to the economy to save the world first. Then that gives a fair playing ground to everyone. However, that is not happening. So, as much as climate crisis is urgent. It would absolutely stupid to put that as the front and centre focus in Singapore. We should do what we can but definitely not at the expense of tanking the economy. No point if the planet is nice and cool, but the country is having a civil war because the economy tanked.
i like the current way of parliament more debates, heated even better, wakes up both sides and strive for the best ideas
Her confrontational tone as opposed to MP Jamus's objective one is akin to kopi tiam auntie saying want to buy buy don't want get lost, as opposed to a professional communicating to another like Mp Jamus, damn malu
No, it is not a Meet-the-People session. Jamus is turning in shoddy work and did not research and survey any corporations needs before giving his flaky clunky suggestion. Just because they "oppose" does not mean they have the better solution, hor.
Prof Jamus👍👍👍👍👍
Furthermore
We suggesting that we don't need a Minister for Sustainability and Environment
INCOMPETENT
REDUNDANCY
OVERPRICED
UNDERPERFORMED
UNPROFESSIONAL
Actually it is highly-paid Prof Jamus who is turning in shoddy work. He forgot that corporations need a fixed cost over several business cycles to measure effectiveness. SG Opposition is not that great at solving problems, hor.
@@scbchong6964
Likewise our current Government too
INCOMPETENT
Poaching for answers from Opposition blatantly
It's only obvious We need The Opposition for checks & balance
Or else it's just purely redundant
We need a 50/50 mandate in Parliament House so as Our voices from The Citizens can be heard
Right now all policies isn't in e best interests of The fellow Singaporean
Nevertheless
Our Speaker of Parliament needs to be Neutral ain't BIAS. I'm stating only the obvious
MAJULAH SINGAPURA 🇸🇬
@@zahidallapitchay9366 Citizen, if 50/50 in Parliament, nothing will get done. What makes you think Opposition so holy and truthful and never talk propaganda?
The problem is PAP govt have always been working to make your life easy and comfortable, so you think Opposition is just as good.
btw what industry you work in, or you still in school?
@@scbchong6964
It's only obvious
You've been brainwashed by PAP Metricory ethnicities
Neither u may not be smart either to put a blind eye on matters that involved People's lives in Singapore 🇸🇬
Enquiring someone's status doesn't put u in a better light My Friend
It only signifies your
Immaturity
Ain't Self Dependent
Opportunist
Power Monger
Likely u need a full health check too soon
Wanna act GUNGHO equals to your
Overpaid
Underperformed
Redundant
PAP 4G MINISTERS
Mind u We ain't running a Circus too
Your assumptions will only end up u being a
Total Lame ASSHOLE la Bro
Definitely u ain't The Voice of The People's
Likely u an CECA IMMIGRANTS validated Fake Degrees 🙄
@@zahidallapitchay9366 You kiss Jamus and Pritam's arse but have they shared their high salary with you? All Opposition MPs are taking double salary but never delivered anything better for 15 years now. Do you earn more than $17k per month?
Have WP built any welfare hospitals, orphanage or schools in Hougang or Aljunied? Have WP given you high-paying job so far? Have Opposition built you better low-cost housing?
Has any MNC open in Hougang or Aljunied and hired more singaporeans at high pay?
It sounds like you don't pay any income tax, property tax and never work before that's why can point finger and blame govt so easy.
If you don't know how to answer the question stop re questioning the question via the the speaker.
Reminds me of how your teacher gives you a specific topic on a general issue for you to respond to and you write a personal response about what you did this morning.
We can see how their dominant, ruling mindset comes to the forefront when she slowly stops sitting down and doesn't feel the kind of pressure that the non ruling class would feel while using the mic. No-one would question her if she stayed there and infact no-one did except when pritam brought it up. Someone from the opposition however, have to act very carefully as each of their move is watched like a hawk by PAP. Sad reality
Actually it is highly-paid Prof Jamus who is turning in shoddy work. He forgot that corporations need a fixed cost over several business cycles to measure effectiveness. SG Opposition is not that great at solving problems, hor.
@@scbchong6964 i was referring to parliamentary ethics within the setting. How is anything you're saying explains why Grace Fu refuses to wait her turn?
@@maadeshkumar7620 Not "ethics" but "etiquette". But it's streamed live and documented anyway so minister got nothing to hide. It's more revealing of the poor quality of Opposition's solutions. You are more concerned with wayang and rhetoric. That just shows Opposition got no substance and just empty vessels. Just because they point finger and blame govt does not mean they can deliver anything better or superior.
What work do you do? Do you pay any income tax or property tax? Or you still in school and living rent-free with parents? Don't you know that majority do NOT want Opposition around?
Jamus is very eloquent and I do not like how grace speaks. His points are valid to a certain extent, but climate change cannot be pegged on economic outlook if we still want singapore to be habitable for future generations
To be honest, what Grace says makes sense. The end goal in mind is to guide the economy towards a sustainable one, notwithstanding keeping the economic reality of businesses in mind. Jamus is asking for flexibility in changing the range of carbon pricing, Grace is saying changing the range might confuse businesses and mislead them from the ultimate sustainability goal in mind. A carbon tax is similar to other taxes in structure but much different in purpose. While other taxes are levied on revenues or costs of goods like cigarettes, in order to reduce negative externalities like health risks from smoking, a carbon tax is levied on a byproduct that has almost zero economic value to begin with. Its less of a tax and more of introducing a new 'cost of production' into the market, pricing something which didn't have a price to reduce its production. Pricing carbon is also not a market driven price mechanism, largely relying on government mandates to set the price, so likening it to interest rate pricing being subject to economic fluctuations is somewhat of a strawman fallacy in my view. Lastly, Singapore is aiming to create Climate Impact X carbon trading market for voluntary carbon credit trading. Carbon tax can be offset by carbon credits traded here but the new market needs stability. The carbon credits themselves are aimed at being market priced robustly but if the carbon tax range varies according to economic vicissitudes the value of credits might drop or rise too, adding another element of uncertainty, one that is unrelated to the demand for carbon credits due to overproduction of carbon or a corresponding supply by underproducing firms. Hence, to reduce non-market fluctuations in the budding carbon credit market, the carbon tax should also not be allowed to vary too much.
Just reading your comment alone has taught me quite a fair bit! Thank you!
Why is she looking impatiently and having no courtesy to sit down for Jamus to speak? Are you aware of the way she gaslight may make Jamus confuse or undercut him in furtherance of her own position?
where is the heated exchange?
Hello, then come clean on what other measures that you will be taking should economic conditions turn bad? What do you mean by "other" measures?
She does't have a Plan B.
Give you CDC voucher .... again $100 is a very big sum.
We are all small eater
..
If this was the House of Commons in the UK. Mr. Lim and his colleagues would be going crazy and trashing the others in their words
“This is prime ministers questions, not leader of the oppositions questions”
When coe for cars was call for,the reasons we had a cost to maintained,building flyovers,widen the road etc.
Then why are we paying for road tax which tax on engine capacity of the build of the vehicle,erp etc now
carbon tax on ?????
Electrical vehicle coe is same as normal car??????
Carbon tax ?????
bro the english standard between grace and jamus is substantial to make me side with jamus
We can replace this speaker. We can get a programme AI. This speaker role is just holding a stopwatch.. set a 10sec on unwelcome party. End of each year.. submit a report on how many hrs wasted just on unwelcome parties giving their speech. AI can give the results immediately on every debate .
Speaker suggest neutral person
@@ashunknown9728 useless. Human still draw salary from the Gov and gov belongs to..
5:20 Workers Party 👏🏻👍🏻🙏🏻
grace fool ask for suggestions??? she earn million SGD
Yo Grace Fu is like a typical woman boss at work in finance hahaha
Rude and arrogant
Hahah 2nd from a finance dude
Vote her out in next g.e.
@@chuak.c7349 good
Business owner will support WP.
Weigh the importance of environmental sustainability vs business profit. Having a fixed trajectory for carbon tax to 2030/2050 make long term care planning much easier. In economic down turns, business owner continue to invest but do they make a loss? No, most will still be able to make profit, just lesser. In fact if they are making a loss they shldnt even be in a business. Having carbon tax that varies only benefit those who wanted to take advantage when carbon tax is Low so they can earn more.
Environmental sustainability is an issue which cannot be neglected like in the past century.
Even if they are paying lower taxes, how are they earning more during an economic downtown? 😅
heated? we should have more robust debates. i just see one ill-tempered woman with a one track mind
Dis-Grace-Fool typifies PAP elitist attitude towards the people. They think they know best and any attempt to engage them in meaningful discussions is treated with scorn and disdain.
Nonsense co2 tax la.
We should tax govt who keep giving pofma and restrict freedom of speech .
Speaker behaving as if he's presiding a court martial case in the SAF court...
Haha
govt going ahead, then don't need to discuss? ...
Not if, jamus should be the minister
Not graceful enough!
Prof Jamus a little long winded. but Grace Fu, pls he is asking u but u turn the question back to him, side tracking n diverting when u cannot answer a question. or answer a Q with a Q...papaya style as usual
This is a "heated" exchange? Seems like a lively discussion, at worst
Frankly this is ridiculous. The way Grace Fu puts things across is clearly evident of how the government is always looking at things from their ivory tower with no regards of the ground sentiments. Despite the economic downturn and increasing cost of living, the government is imposing the hike in the carbon tax. Raising the carbon tax sharply amidst such situation will eventually hit hard on all the consumers. Does this bother the ministers with million dollar salary package? Not at all.
Walao. Every topic also want to argue about the current policy, no topic to argue isit so need to find things to do😂
Speaker is ....shaking my head
He is not neutral
Go WP
cannot find a solution...u can stand down and resign and let other capable people to do a better job.
Don't understand what grace fu doesn't get. Business still have 5-6 years forecast with variable interest rate. So why can't it do the same for variable carbon tax?
She's extremely defensive and it no longer becomes a parliament debate
this was the first time a man put her in her place
not even her hubby does this to her when she goes crazy
Actually it is highly-paid Prof Jamus who is turning in shoddy work. Would you hire a worker who point finger, blame you, make excuses and yet cannot deliver better?
@@thesavvyartist You forgot the Opposition MPs are taking in double salary yet nothing better delivered for 15 years now. All empty promises and rhetoric.
btw the ministers are paid millions because the fiscal policies they plan and enact allow ALL singaporeans to earn millions too. eg. mediocre, untalented workers can become millionaires from HDB public housing. Anywhere else in the world they would be living in under a bridge homeless.
@@thesavvyartist No, ministers got to serve 18 years at least before qualifying for a pension, at max, 10% of their last drawn pay. If you work in private sector, dividends, savings and CPF payouts approach that amount.
Aren't you now picking on "small little irritants"? Aren't you the envious one? Aren't you practicing Cancel Culture? Isn't the Opposition stoking Politics of Envy by spreading such falsehoods?
btw ministers are paid a million because the fiscal policies they enact allow ALL singaporeans to earn millions too. ALL citizens can choose to work in private sector, civil service, armed forces or start a business. It has to be about equality of opportunity, not equal rewards/pay/outcomes, right?
If you observe, the loudest Opposition supporters are usually arrogant, self-important, entitled good-for-nothings nursing some grudge against the govt.
@@thesavvyartist You forgot Jamus is a professional adult but turning in shoddy work and riding on the double standards of Opposition supporters. But the issue is Opposition supporters behave and react like emo juveniles without critical thinking.
Why should taxpayers accept substandard problem solving from the Opposition during Parliament? Just because they are "Opposition", they should be hero-worshipped and allowed to slack?
btw are you a working adult with family or still in school and living rent-free under your parents' roof?
Certainty is the word
We need to confer him the Sangrila Order of the Probity and sing iur childhood song 🎵 Courtesy is for Free, Courtesy is for yew and me, it makes a gracious living in harmonlee 🎵 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So how does paying for carbon tax help with lowering it? I did not know that it is possible to lower it just by throwing money at it, this will hurt companies and consumers and do nothing for the environment that thrives on carbon dioxide, the real issue is methane and human meddling with geoengineering and yes geoengineering is real.
This Grace Foo was caught by Jamus and she is struggling like shit to answer him. Furthermore, she don't seem to understand what is economic condition which Jamus suggested and she kept fixing the rates!
Grace Fu can b more graceful. She raised her voice while trying to assert her points. JL was just suggesting to have a more flexible approach. She is like talking to a subordinate.
100B is preposterous spending as compared to Japan 245 miles of seawall structure for about $12 billion. The auditor general must make clear distinction amongst building dikes or building seawall to land reclamation example the land reclamation project along east coast. I wonder is for building airports or for climate change or to build public housing and selling back to the public at "market value"? Will the auditor general report their findings to the President?
Disgusting behaviour by Grace..🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Actually it is highly-paid Prof Jamus who is turning in shoddy work. Would you hire a worker who point finger, blame you, make excuses and yet cannot deliver better?
The high handedness and condescending demeanor of the ruling party members at proceedings like these always reaffirm my decision why i should not vote for them. Singaporeans can see their defensiveness and arrogance. Some of them need to be voted out.
Grace is great. Very competent. The prof should go back to teaching in a university. Pritam is good WP opposition leader but definitely not PM material
Show your formula , grace fu,so that the singaporean understand.
I fully support MP Grace Fu explanation, she make it clear and of point was direct. But Prof Lim.......... i am sorry to say you really do not have the experience to run a country. It is easy to say what you have in mind but the practical part you make not have the experience. Rome are not built in one day ! You must understand that there is a lot of hard work and consideration before they make this decision.
Why does Singapore need a carbon tax? Is it just being trendy?
just sucking up to the West.
Million dollar question literally...but don't wait for an enlightening answer
She is skirting the issue it seems...
Typical ... What achievement have GF done in the past decade for singapoore
UK is just taxing 6.5 pounds per tonne of carbon waste. Why is Singapore taxing 25 per tonne which is roughly 18 pounds.
She's full of nonsense. Talking down on another MP. Speaker of parliament also very improper in rushing MP to raise questions and also very one sided
Actually it is highly-paid Prof Jamus who is turning in shoddy work. He forgot that corporations need a fixed cost over several business cycles to measure effectiveness. SG Opposition is not that great at solving problems, hor.
She can't even understand the argument.
I think house speaker,should be independent person who is neutral who is not from PAP or,opposition wp or any. Some one,with lawyers background or civil servant experience who must not be part of PAP . they should implement a election for house speaker it's,should be done by public because if you put in parliament majority will vote pap candidate. So voting for house speaker is must all independent then put internal election in parliament.. Who must not be in Pap supporter of any opposition party must be neutral if not we vote out this speaker in his contiuency in next election
One is a professor, economist, lecturer.... The other is a wannabe.
Jamus teaches Econs 101, lah. Plus he suggesting something clunky to corporate planners, forgetting that a fixed cost is required over several business cycles before effectiveness can be measured. He is a highly-paid incompetent without any experience building or operating factories or plants. He never even run a successful business before.
F..P.. vs G..F..
Wp is,good in asking question..
She not the mp for S'porean resident..too defensive with full of bull
Ok Grace Fuul, even if Singapore becomes Bankrupt like Sri Lanka, we will follow your policy, your path. You happy?
Actually it is highly-paid Prof Jamus who is turning in shoddy work. He forgot that corporations need a fixed cost over several business cycles to measure effectiveness. SG Opposition is not that great at solving problems, hor.
grace foo is so NYC
Jamus is just incompetent here
She talk rather impatience
She definitely has a stronger point. And feasible. But it was not good PR.
What point ,tell me ...rate must change due to market conditions.
Now even house mortgages is not fixed...please used your brain.
Citizens will had to bear on utility bills+GST (food ) prices...
@@acheeyk this is about carbon emission bill … I guess you’ve to use both your brains and ears and eyes ? Hhahahaah.. phew ..
@@acheeyk why? Cannot keep a fixed rate but use other measures to cushion the impact of economic change? Like providing subsidies etc. There are more instruments in policies than just tax you know, but having a fixed tax rate signals to businesses that sustainability is the direction the government is going and there won’t likely be flip-flops, so business can make up their mind and invest in change with certainty. Sometimes the ‘use ur brain’ answers may be intuitive but really not how the real world works
Jamus: the lower bound that i gave you is lower than the government’s upper bound.
Me: what the fk? Also why the fk is no one talking about that? Instead so many are pointing out other lame crap.
Yo this hella tame compared to what we have in this hellhole Malaysia bruv
Unsure if I understand correctly but Jamus stand on his proposed range being different from the government's range felt distasteful. What is the point of citing the lower bound is lower than the government's upper bound? That felt very petty
just sit down pls
grace foo know what is 2024????
James make a good dancer.not a economist on market ,,,,_,company decisions
She was very rude and 'Disgraceful' for standing up from the podium and throw questions at Professor Lim while others was answering. No manners at all, parent never teach her manners.
The speaker is one sided I guess I never seen in history of Singapore parliament. Last time there is pap house speaker but they neutral I mean everyone has the right to speak n suggest policy .. We people need to demand the removal of speaker in next election by voting out this speaker tan
Don’t see why the carbon tax can’t have a variable component. Just politics.
Coe,road tax,erp,now carbon tax next will be farting tax...methane cause climate change too
Simple point but yak and yak. This is call 'over-talk': talk too much but without substance.
she think she is so smart she is a bully think big fish eat small fish unfit to b minister with bad attitude come out to open minister guard yr attitude n b gracious dont hv to run people down no respect for U want to impress who?????
She's kinda rude tho
She IS rude lol. Her actions tells everything
Grace Fu acting more like a Karen/auntie more than a member of parliament. Embarassing.
@Alvin fix your grammar before talking to me
The woman is less than smart for a lack of a better word 😅
Not Ms Grace Fu
Its Dis Grace Ful
Condescending attitude from the ruling party
Edit: i rewatched it and it’s like Grace Fu is talking to a kid and scoffing at them as if they’re suggesting something crazy. Same way how those annoying teachers in school talk to students. And the body language of annoyance and talk down. CRINGE
Empress grace
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My daughter and I get the same treatment from so-called "public servants", she was brazenly taken away despite her disagreeing with them. She still wants to come home yet they scoff at the idea for nearly two years. Isn't it insulting for them to blame her father only when they alleged a 10 year old child having suicidal thoughts yet she firmly denies it and still eager to be with her father, the inner conflict she has being exacerbated by them? Something is clearly not right and not ethical but none of them wants to admit with humility instead keep on bullying us with impunity and dragged on our suffering despite the clear-cut facts that would provide enough reasons to any right minded person to withdraw from punishing us any longer
@@acheeyk dowager fu
Her father was press secretary to LKY
Big shot
She is big shot at home
calling all the shots until....
Pritam OWNED her so badly
Highly-paid Prof Jamus can only come up with wider band instead of something better? And he forgot corporate planners need fixed cost for a couple of business cycles to gauge progress. Blind Opposition cult supporters give too much credit for such mediocre performance.
but when it comes to GST, public transport fares, electricity bills, the fees keep changing. i also find it difficult for families to make projections for their finances when bills keep changing.
In Singapore what goes up never come down.
Can we just have a non partisan speaker for parliament?
Good idea, in world Cup football, referee must be from different country.
Ownself party help ownself pap party minister
yeah sg parliament is like playing against 11 men + 5 referee + all the security personel
PAP losing next year. PAP keep taxing the common people of Singapore so that they can buy private property and cars. Do you know PAP use our money to fill in their own pocket? There are so many poor people in Singapore yet PAP choose to neglect but overburden the people with heavy taxes. I really dislike corrupt authoritarian government like PAP. This seems so similar to Putin! When people are in power, they are blinded by greed eventually. Take a look at PAP!
@@isftish isn’t that the point for every country, have you seen Mexico, dummy