Such a cruel circumstance when you’re burning while surrounded by water, and freezing to death with an inferno so close. Thanks for another wonderful episode. Hope you both have a wonderful Independence Day!
That three people managed to survive in the waters of Lake Michigan in late November for over two hours was more than we had expected. Nothing was said about their ages or physical conditions in the accounts we read but we could only imagine that they had to be three of the healthier people on board to endure so long.
Didn't expect to ever say that I agree that it was right that the captain was among those early in a lifeboat. Thanks for all the work you must do to share these stories.
We had a similar reaction. It must have been hard on Captain Sweet leading up to Blish coming and carrying him out of his cabin. I doubt anyone had the time to come and report to him the details of what was happening once things went bad. It has to be torture knowing your ship is on fire but not knowing any details and not being able to help.
"Phoenix in Flames?" Yea, that makes sense🤔. Having been a sailor for a short time, I would shy away from ships with foreboding names. On the flip side there is alot of "gallow's humor" about USN Ammo ships being named after volcano's.
That old news print picture is in error. The SS Phoenix had 2 propellers.(as noted) , and no paddle wheels. But in 1847 props were very very new and obviously the artist didn't know about that or saw the ship before the disaster.. Stacks are too far forward as well.
Choosing a picture thid week for the thumbnail was a tough decision. The only other contemporary picture of the Phoenix we found was a very rough sketch. Neither picture was what we wished it was.
@@theshipwreckarchives There are very few illustrations of this wreck. The historical site "Michigan shipwrecks" has a "more" accurate and gorgeous painting by the artist/painter/sculturist (William J. Koelpin) who was born long after the disaster and made a painting 100 years later . But Your selection was "on pointe" for accuracy what anybody back in 1847 might known. Or anything most people would know today . ------------------------------- Chit: after looking up William J. Koelpin for his SS Phoenix Disaster and an image search. I wood luv to have one of his wood sculptures. LOL But I aint that rich. His Phoenix painting is impressive , and his other works go next world. He was from Wisconsin and He did "Wisconsin " in his art , including this wreck. No idea if you had contact to use it or not. "Neither picture was what we wished it was." , Yea I understand the conundrum
Accident's like this, sometimes happens, unfortunately. Somebody could, or could not, be to blame. The REAL ONE'S to blame, would be the ship's owner (s). Three lifeboats that ONLY hold, 20 people apiece??? And some 250 immigrant's, plus crew🤔⁉️ Yes, bottom line is, the ship's owner (s), wouldn't you say??? And it's always, 'bout money🤨…………
Such a cruel circumstance when you’re burning while surrounded by water, and freezing to death with an inferno so close.
Thanks for another wonderful episode. Hope you both have a wonderful Independence Day!
That three people managed to survive in the waters of Lake Michigan in late November for over two hours was more than we had expected. Nothing was said about their ages or physical conditions in the accounts we read but we could only imagine that they had to be three of the healthier people on board to endure so long.
More good stuff! Thank you!!
Always sleep better when I have a new SWA video to drift off too.
Didn't expect to ever say that I agree that it was right that the captain was among those early in a lifeboat. Thanks for all the work you must do to share these stories.
We had a similar reaction. It must have been hard on Captain Sweet leading up to Blish coming and carrying him out of his cabin. I doubt anyone had the time to come and report to him the details of what was happening once things went bad. It has to be torture knowing your ship is on fire but not knowing any details and not being able to help.
Your content is always excellent. 💙 🚢 💙
Remember the Night of the Phenix by Lee Murdock is about this event, you should give it a listen.
"Phoenix in Flames?" Yea, that makes sense🤔. Having been a sailor for a short time, I would shy away from ships with foreboding names.
On the flip side there is alot of "gallow's humor" about USN Ammo ships being named after volcano's.
That old news print picture is in error. The SS Phoenix had 2 propellers.(as noted) , and no paddle wheels.
But in 1847 props were very very new and obviously the artist didn't know about that or saw the ship before the disaster..
Stacks are too far forward as well.
Choosing a picture thid week for the thumbnail was a tough decision. The only other contemporary picture of the Phoenix we found was a very rough sketch. Neither picture was what we wished it was.
@@theshipwreckarchives There are very few illustrations of this wreck. The historical site "Michigan shipwrecks" has a "more" accurate and gorgeous painting by the artist/painter/sculturist (William J. Koelpin) who was born long after the disaster and made a painting 100 years later .
But Your selection was "on pointe" for accuracy what anybody back in 1847 might known. Or anything most people would know today .
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Chit: after looking up William J. Koelpin for his SS Phoenix Disaster and an image search. I wood luv to have one of his wood sculptures. LOL But I aint that rich.
His Phoenix painting is impressive , and his other works go next world. He was from Wisconsin and He did "Wisconsin " in his art , including this wreck.
No idea if you had contact to use it or not.
"Neither picture was what we wished it was." ,
Yea I understand the conundrum
Good stuff. requisite comment to one of a couple hundred channels I deem worthy but far too poor to finically back #FeedtheAlgorithim
being average finically sucks, you just "can't" and support a family. Too hard, too heavy. Inflation is a real thing :(
We are always grateful for kind words and expect nothing in addition. It is a pleasure to be able to share these stories.
Same here, so I like the video and comments, least I can do. 🌹⚓
Accident's like this, sometimes happens, unfortunately. Somebody could, or could not, be to blame. The REAL ONE'S to blame, would be the ship's owner (s). Three lifeboats that ONLY hold, 20 people apiece??? And some 250 immigrant's, plus crew🤔⁉️ Yes, bottom line is, the ship's owner (s), wouldn't you say??? And it's always, 'bout money🤨…………